[QUOTE=Rog123;2137473]Every question you asked is answered in this forum take some time for research.[/QUOTE]Too many words. It could be shorter: RTFF.
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2137473]Every question you asked is answered in this forum take some time for research.[/QUOTE]Too many words. It could be shorter: RTFF.
Thank you very much for the useful information.
[QUOTE=PhotoSlider;2137486]This is more about a different culture, and about setting expectations right.
When we were younger, and chased girls roughly our age, being stood up for the date might have been a big deal or not. Here these ladies in Kiev typically are much younger than us, and still they behave the same: "I do what I please, and no big deal, 'cause I'm beautiful and there's a lot of them boys trying to meet with me!" At least that's they way they want to be perceived, and it's up to us not to fall into those traps.
Best of luck![/QUOTE]
Hello.
Q1. I want to go to Chernigov (1063;1077;1088;1085;1080;1075;1086;1074 from Kiev, to meet a girl. Chernigov is 150 km (2 hour by car) from Kiev.
How much is it by taxi?
There seems to be a direct bus, but I do not want to spend 4 hours (or 8 hours on round trip) which would tire me before everything more important.
Q2. Which apartment in Kiev would you suggest? The apartment I often used has a very poor air conditioner, and thus is extremely cold in this season.
I prefer an apartment where an alien guest cannot enter the building and elevator without a security card, or without being accompanied by one who stays there.
I am nervous about security. Of course, I do not want the clerk to check a girl.
One of my charming friends wrote to me that she desperately needs money. But I can not be in Kiev and Ukraine at this time. She asks me who to find. This is her photo. She will be at this time in Kiev. Friday and Saturday. As I understand it on 9 and 10 February. Here on the forum you can not give contacts. So you can write to me PM.
I told her that she is a little stupid and she needs to leave Ukraine at least to the Poland and even better in Paris or Berlin. Where she quickly finds a rich husband or very good sponsor. 18 years old and she can not yet leave her country. She seems to be studying at the academy.
A friend of mine from Norway saw her photo and said that if she comes to Norway and gives an announcement, she will earn even without sex 200-300 euros a day. Just 50-60 euros for a massage and Hand Job. If she agrees to fuck then it can be even 400-500 euros per hour and even more- her phone will be constantly ringing.
I know her. She's a good girl. But a bit ambitious. But she's not angry. Just a bit stupid. She has a sick father and she has a complicated relationship with her mother as she says.
[QUOTE=Deer1234;2137733]Hello.
Q1. I want to go to Chernigov (1063;1077;1088;1085;1080;1075;1086;1074 from Kiev, to meet a girl. Chernigov is 150 km (2 hour by car) from Kiev.
How much is it by taxi?
There seems to be a direct bus, but I do not want to spend 4 hours (or 8 hours on round trip) which would tire me before everything more important.
Q2. Which apartment in Kiev would you suggest? The apartment I often used has a very poor air conditioner, and thus is extremely cold in this season.
I prefer an apartment where an alien guest cannot enter the building and elevator without a security card, or without being accompanied by one who stays there.
I am nervous about security. Of course, I do not want the clerk to check a girl.[/QUOTE]There are many apartment rental groups just google. I used to use uaapartments but its been a long while. Always get an apartment close to Kreshatik as it is easy for girls to come in by bus or metro. Baseina, Pushinska, Mala Zhitmoskaya, Michaelovska, Shota Rustevilli are are good central streets.
[QUOTE=Deer1234;2137733]Hello.
Q1. I want to go to Chernigov (1063;1077;1088;1085;1080;1075;1086;1074 from Kiev, to meet a girl. Chernigov is 150 km (2 hour by car) from Kiev.
How much is it by taxi?[/QUOTE]Online taxi quotes are under $80.
[QUOTE]There seems to be a direct bus, but I do not want to spend 4 hours (or 8 hours on round trip) which would tire me before everything more important.[/QUOTE]Taxi would be tiring too, and there is a risk of car accident. But all of this is not important. IMHO you make yourself vulnerable for no reason.
Let us say you go there, and she is no show. And all this time while you are riding a taxi there, and then wait for her (even if she shows up), and then go back to Kiev, you could have had multiple other girls in Kiev. Each way of your round trip taxi translates into one call girl delivered to your door, or a fancy dinner for two at the nice restaurant relaxing. Especially important if you only have short 5-7 days total time to visit.
Some folks on the Forum here advertise Sumy and Kharkiv and other locations. I am aligned with the opposite school of thought: have the girl come to you, pay for her train or bus upon her arrival to your residence. This is much more efficient. Then they risk to loose time, not you. Infrastructure in Kiev is much more developed in many respects, regardless of the season. You'll have many more options.
[QUOTE]Q2. Which apartment in Kiev would you suggest? The apartment I often used has a very poor air conditioner, and thus is extremely cold in this season.
I prefer an apartment where an alien guest cannot enter the building and elevator without a security card, or without being accompanied by one who stays there.
I am nervous about security. Of course, I do not want the clerk to check a girl.[/QUOTE]Controversial requirements. You describe hotel-type security, yet do not want a check-in reception staff stopping your visitors. AirBnB has reviews, very useful feature, you can also ask landlord via Viber.
You seem too paranoid. Kiev is just like another big city in Europe or anywhere else. If you survived in Rome, or San Francisco or Frankfurt, with basic reasonable precautions you'll be fine in Kiev. I felt safe downtown any time day and night. Projecting confidence without unnecessary arrogance doesn't attract attention. At the same time ladies themselves told me that things happen and some poor girls cannot resist temptation. One long-term GIA beauty, while 4 of us (2+2) were drinking and singing songs in my kitchen, has been watching that another one from competitors, that fell asleep in the bedroom, doesn't steal anything. Felt funny back then, but she must have seen things happen, maybe before she started working at GIA.
Secure your valuables in the room, do not leave anything in the plain view or easily retrievable.
Any suggestions as to what are your best options in Kiev if you just want a blowjob? What's a fair price for strictly BJ to a Mamba girl?
[QUOTE=Deer1234;2137733]Hello.
Q1. I want to go to Chernigov (1063;1077;1088;1085;1080;1075;1086;1074 from Kiev, to meet a girl. Chernigov is 150 km (2 hour by car) from Kiev.
How much is it by taxi?
There seems to be a direct bus, but I do not want to spend 4 hours (or 8 hours on round trip) which would tire me before everything more important.
Q2. Which apartment in Kiev would you suggest? The apartment I often used has a very poor air conditioner, and thus is extremely cold in this season.
I prefer an apartment where an alien guest cannot enter the building and elevator without a security card, or without being accompanied by one who stays there.
I am nervous about security. Of course, I do not want the clerk to check a girl.[/QUOTE]You wrote Chernigov. It's not so far away from Kiev. About 2 hours in the bus. Not 4 hours. I did the tour 2 years ago. The bus starts near to the trainstation in the center. But there is another stop at the Lisova Metro. In the east of Kiew and at the other side of the river. That makes the trip much shorter and more comfortable.
If somebody told you about 4 hours in the bus, it must be a different city. Or you asked for the wrong bus. Anyway you must be sure that it's Chernigov und not Chernivtsi. Even [URL]booking.com[/URL] made this mistake. When I tried to book my accomodation, I found some Chernivtsi Hotels in Chernigov. Guess they already fixed this problem )))
About the apartment: There are several apartment agencies that operate as a "mini-hotel". With concierge. Theatre Boutique Apart Hotel for example. But also Partner Guest House has a lot of apartments in Shota Rustavelli 44 with janitor.
[QUOTE=Tomek123;2137756]One of my charming friends wrote to me that she desperately needs money. But I can not be in Kiev and Ukraine at this time. She asks me who to find. This is her photo. She will be at this time in Kiev. Friday and Saturday. As I understand it on 9 and 10 February. Here on the forum you can not give contacts. So you can write to me PM.
I told her that she is a little stupid and she needs to leave Ukraine at least to the Poland and even better in Paris or Berlin. Where she quickly finds a rich husband or very good sponsor. 18 years old and she can not yet leave her country. She seems to be studying at the academy.
A friend of mine from Norway saw her photo and said that if she comes to Norway and gives an announcement, she will earn even without sex 200-300 euros a day. Just 50-60 euros for a massage and Hand Job. If she agrees to fuck then it can be even 400-500 euros per hour and even more- her phone will be constantly ringing.
I know her. She's a good girl. But a bit ambitious. But she's not angry. Just a bit stupid. She has a sick father and she has a complicated relationship with her mother as she says.[/QUOTE]Clear out some of your inbox messages, we can't PM you because the inbox is full.
[QUOTE=Deer1234;2137733]Hello.
Q2. Which apartment in Kiev would you suggest? The apartment I often used has a very poor air conditioner, and thus is extremely cold in this season.
I prefer an apartment where an alien guest cannot enter the building and elevator without a security card, or without being accompanied by one who stays there.
I am nervous about security. Of course, I do not want the clerk to check a girl.[/QUOTE]Nice, safe and very central.
[URL]https://www.kievinn.ua/apartments.html[/URL]
Very good reviews on TripAdvisor.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g294474-d1627212-Reviews-KievInn_Apartment_Complex-Kiev.html[/URL]
I've been lurking here for a while and decided today to become a member and start posting. Please excuse occasional bad spelling. This forum is not mobile enabled, which makes it harder to review my posts before submitting.
Like other people here, I had mixed results with the $50/ hour girls from the hidden agencies. No fatties, thankfully, but a few had big hideous tattoos, one appeared shell-shocked from bad experiences with a potential client and just lay stiffly and trembling in bed at first (I managed to relax her eventually), most who were advertised as speaking English couldn't speak more than a few words (fortunately, I speak intermediate Russian), most refused to kiss, several left their electronic crackpipe turned on and then pretended not to understand when I asked them to turn it off after it beeped right in the middle of the session. Finally found a jewel in this rubbish heap and then proceed to do what most of the other mongers here don't have the sense to do. Namely, become a repeat customer when someone gives me good service. Same thing when I find a good apartment landlord, same thing for other services in Kiev. There are many honest people in Kiev who are anxious to provide good service at a good price and improve their economic condition. When you find such a person, become a repeat customer instead of constantly looking for something better just because you are on vacation and bored and everything is cheap in Kiev right now.
At Tomek: please don't tell that girl what you are telling us, about the possibility of making $500/ hour on Norway.
At Deer1234: To elaborate on what I wrote above, it is positively immoral the way you are behaving. You are rewarding dishonest people and not rewarding the honest ones. If you are new to Kiev and inexperienced, then you have to pay full price. Contact the Gia agency and all them to recommend a hotel where their girls are admitted. Then go through their girls one by one until you find one that clicks. Make sure you can pay one hour initially and then extend if you like the girl. Then see that girl several more times. This completes your initial experience with Ukrainian *****mongering. You are leaving lots of money on the table, compared to what more experienced mongers can achieve, but that extra money provides an incentive for the Gia agency to make things work. On future visits, you can try to get better prices.
I have never tried Gia myself, but I understand the concepts of name branding and repeat customer. Unlike all the hidden agencies, Gia has a brand name, so they have an incentive to make things work for those who can pay their prices. And if you show yourself to be a repeat customer, they have an even stronger incentive to make things work. So this is where the beginners should go. Yes the prices are high, but foolishly sending money to girls in other cities like Deer1234 is doing and getting nothing on return is even more expensive in the long run.
Ukraine is a mess economically and likely to remain so for decades to come. Where are the beautiful young women of Ukraine going to get the money to raise a family, including a new generation of working girls? People worry about polar bears and sharks and tigers going extinct, but what about beautiful Ukrainian working girls going extinct? Does no one care about that? I care, and so I do my best to help them survive by mongering in Ukraine, and I recommend other men to the same. But you need to do so in a moral way: money in exchange for quality services. That is sustainable. Throwing money around like Deer1234 is don't is just going to leave him disgusted with Ukraine so that he never wants to visit again'and thus never spends any more money there. Nor good for him, not good for the girls of Ukraine.
Attn admin; please mobile enable this sure.
Do you really care about what Kiev people perceive you? LOL.
Any apartment uploaded on Airbnb is good. Since Ukrainians respect this American websites more than their local laws or policeman.
Plus, they are dying to make foreign money so they do care about their reputation over the website.
I've never been disappointed at their service.
Once, I fucked the girl who came to check me out just before the flight. This cleaning lady+collecting key was sexy and I just grabbed and did it. Huh!
[QUOTE=Jojosun;2137988]Nice, safe and very central.
[URL]https://www.kievinn.ua/apartments.html[/URL]
Very good reviews on TripAdvisor.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g294474-d1627212-Reviews-KievInn_Apartment_Complex-Kiev.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jojosun;2137988]Nice, safe and very central.
[URL]https://www.kievinn.ua/apartments.html[/URL]
Very good reviews on TripAdvisor.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g294474-d1627212-Reviews-KievInn_Apartment_Complex-Kiev.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I cannot believe how much extra $$ customers must pay just because they do not speak Russian or Ukrainian.
[URL]https://miete.com.ua/Kyiv[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2138232]I cannot believe how much extra $$ customers must pay just because they do not speak Russian or Ukrainian.
[URL]https://miete.com.ua/Kyiv[/URL][/QUOTE]Do you really believe that everybody is so stupid. ? The problem is not only the language. Most of the cheap places on that site looking terrible. No euro-renovation. Grannys old furniture. Smelling (I'm sure).
Euro-renovation is always expensive and it's not easy to find a good "master" in the ukraine.
The next problem is the security of your booking. No guarantee that the owner don't rent the apartments to somebody else. You want to stay 3 nights, another guy asking for 7 nights.
Many owners will simply cancel your booking. Even in the last moment. Or they even don't contact you. You arrive in Kiev and will stay on the street. Great pleasure in the winter (with minus 12 degrees).
Anyway you can be sure that the calendar on that site is not up to date.
Also don't trust the price that is quoted on the site. The owners might write 500 UAH, but in reality it can be much more. They will tell you it's the price if you stay two weeks or so. And the amount is much higher for a single night or a weekend.
Especially on holidays (new year, easter holidays) the prices can be crazy. Nobody would give the apartment for that money. And not even for double or triple price.
But anyway: It's up to you if you want to rent an apartment from amateurs or real professionals. Even an expensive agency like partner guest house has a lot of clients from the ukraine. Ukrainian people who know about such a site with cheap apartments and who can call there without any problem. Do you believe that all these clients are stupid. ?
I always use Olga apartments. Really good guys I would not deal with anyone else.