I will be in Kiev between 24 November and 1 December 2007. I would like to organize something in group. Who wants to partecipate in my parties? Please, write a private message to me.
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I will be in Kiev between 24 November and 1 December 2007. I would like to organize something in group. Who wants to partecipate in my parties? Please, write a private message to me.
Hecker, you are my master!
Hi!
I don't post that much on this forum, but I'm always reading everything that you guys write. At the moment I have been in Kiev for one week, I still have 3 to go. So it would be good to link up with some of you guys who are coming out here. In one week alone I have seen some scammers at work in the arena shopping arcade, girls who have ripped off american guys who I know and of course have mixed it with some of the ex pats who go pussy hunting. Great fun but you sure have to be on your toes in this city. Some of you guys may know an italian called Max who runs massage parlour, english guy named Paul who has lived here for about 5 years and will help any guy out who has problems whilst you are here. Some american guys who I have got to know some looking for p4p, others for serious relations, some have been scammed by the girls, but it beats sitting at home in front of a fire watching tv as this is real drama unfolding before your very eyes.
If anybody wants to meet up while you are here then PM me please.
[QUOTE=Hecker]I have been only once in River Palace because the quality of the girls there was the same that can easily be seen on the streets. There were no super models like the ukrainian girls who are gathered in metro stations and central places. However I noticed that prices in RP can be negotiated and are related to the appearance of the client. Girls may easily lower prices if the client is good looking. Also another common thing in Ukraine girls judge you by the response of other girls to you. If they see that you try to get lower price by getting from girl to girl and negotiate, they will strictly keep to the 300$ fixed rule. Because they do not want you to have any advantage. That is why girls and taxi drivers are so often gathered together in a single place. They want to watch all the possible customers as not to give them the chance to lower the prices by negotiating and discovering the possibilities.
So if you want to hit on a girl in RP you should first buy for her a drink in a way that the other girls see it and realize that you are generous gentleman.
Then when you negotiate the price with her, make sure that the other girls do not see it. Moreover do not let her go and inform the other girls or try to move as quickly as possible to cause confusion. The girls tehre are friends (some are enemies) and will try to exchange information between each other.
This is what I can think in order to get a lower price. Of course in this game the slavic girl has always the upper hand because she understands better your psychology than you understand hers.
As for me after buying a drink to a girls that resembled very much the first freebie I had gotten in Kiev, I asked her about how much it cost. 300$ seemed to me a big amoun of money. With 200$ I had three students for half a day doing everything and I mean everything. I suppose RP girls are more proffesional. So I asked her if a friend of her could join for 300$ for both, that is 150$ for each girl. She agreed and introduced me a beautiful blonde about 21-23 years old who smiled etc. Then I told her that 2 girls are very few and I would like 3 girls together with 300$, that is 100$ for each girl for 2 hours. This seemed to me reasonable price. She refused. I bought her one more drink but she kept refusing. She agreed on two girls for 300$ but not for 3 girls for the same price. So I moved to other girls who of course had realized what had happened and now each one wanted 300$ for herself only without negotiating. I found it ridiculous and got away. In internet I have found a very good looking girl who does everything for 200$ per night and she has about 50 acquaintances who she can bring for the same price. She does everything agreeing even in licking ass, getting pissed etc. Her girlfriend who lives together with her (180 cm tall) does the same for 200$.
The three students I had have agreed on even heavier stuff for 300$ for all during all night long.
So for me RP is overpriced.[/QUOTE]Can you give me some information about where to find this interesting student girls? I will be in kiev at the end of the months.
[QUOTE=Hecker]With 200$ I had three students for half a day doing everything and I mean everything.
In internet I have found a very good looking girl who does everything for 200$ per night and she has about 50 acquaintances who she can bring for the same price. She does everything agreeing even in licking ass, getting pissed etc. Her girlfriend who lives together with her (180 cm tall) does the same for 200$.
[/QUOTE]Hi,
Any contact information for any of these? Sounds like great possibilities! I will be in Kiev Nov 23-27. Maybe you are there as well?
Yes Hecker, you have been to River Palace once for a few hours and left without a girl - you are the master. :|
Kiev1, please, send a pm to me with your email because:
"Kiev1 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Yes Hecker, you have been to River Palace once for a few hours and left without a girl - you are the master. :|[/QUOTE]Yes, because it seemed to me overpriced since I had three girls the same afternoon for 5 hours doing everything for 200$ and some foods and drinks from produkti. After RP I entered Decadence where I was touching a hot odessan ass for the next two hours. This girl had a low-cat dress that showed her buttocks when she danced. She almost seemed naked as she had wore a G-string underneath. So I talked to her and had my hand all over her bare ass with her not reacting at all.
RP is the easy solution. Decadence, 47, Carribean are for fighters, for people who want to pull freebies. There is the challenge and the tricks.
Hi,
I will be there until middle of January. In case, anybody there, too, wants to share some expirience or beer, let me know.
[QUOTE=Hecker]RP is the easy solution. Decadence, 47, Carribean are for fighters, for people who want to pull freebies. There is the challenge and the tricks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's the truth. Clubs and chasing freebies is for warriors. It doesn't always work, but when it does the payoff is (usually) higher... but not always.
It's all about fighting the fight and being a warrior.
Gents I'll be in Kiev this weekend to mix work and fun -- PM me if you're around.
Guys,
I'll be in Odessa for holiday in the period 19-29 december 2007, if anybody is going to be there and wants to join me in taking the most out of the main ukrainian national asset (which is not natural gas :-) you're very welcome!
See you folks!
I will be in Donesk and Mariupol the next to the last week in March. If anybody is going to be there at the same time- would like to get a PM. Also, if anybody has some digits or leads for these areas- (as Ross Peroit said)- I am all ears. PM me. My taste runs to the "spinner" type and I am not much for the bar scene.
P Bear
I am planning on a trip in Jan. from the 18th to the 28th will be in Odessa and Lugansk. I have been looking for cheap airfare from Kiev to those cities and have been unlucky. Does anyone recommend a website if so pm me please.
Where can I find cheap airfare to travel in the Ukraine?
I am planning a trip to Lugansk and Odessa in Jan.
Thanks in advance