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Smoke and Mirror,
How do I say this politely, YOU'RE an IDIOT!!!
This is the Seoul, Korea segment for postings, If we were talking about Korean girls in the States, then we would post in Other Areas, Korea.
Idon't need lessons on how to hook up in the States, that's easy. I am trying to get some nice pussy in Korea.
Korean women in the states are more open to dating ourside of their race or nationality outside of Korea becuase they are the ethnic minority, especially if they are second or third generation Koreans in the US; however, I have found that Korean American still prefer to date within their own nationality and race due to cultural similarities.
You can't tell me that you understand all of the nuances and differences in Korean culture (even if you lived in Korea your entire life (unless your parents are Korean and speak the language exclusively). Korea and most Asian Countries are far more complex and stratified that Western societies. Hey just a tip, try blowing your nose at the dinner talbe in a Korean resturaunt and see if anyone wants to go to dinner withyou in the future.
FYI, there are words and phrases that can't even be explained effectively in English that express a feeeling or emotion in Korean. This makes is much more difficult to communicate on the most fundamental levels. Can it be done, of corse; however, it takes a lot of time and patience.
What if you had to explain what love is to someone that speaks a different language and has no comparable word or phrase. Or better yet, try explaining what an article of the English language is and when to use it correctly; oh yes, an article by the way, is "a " and "the". Articles don't exist in the Korean language or for that matter, most languages around the world. If you really dated Korean girls, then you know what I am talking about. *****If you deny this, then you are just a fucking liar, because anyone who has dated a Korean or is Korean, knows exactly what I am talking about.
As I mentioned before, Korean women in Korea have to live with the stgmatism of dating foreigners becuase others might think that they are prostitutes or really really easy, which is actually a fair assessment if you think about it; ahhhhh the RLDs > Hello? is anyone home up there? Occassionally, you meet Korean american in Korea or woman who have lived n the states that don't feel the stigmatism.
The good news is that if you date Koreans (IN KOREA), you will rarely get look on the street (much more polite than us Americans back in the early 80's and 90's when Blacks and white started to openly date. We have short memories don't we? Easy to criticize ohers.
Bye the way "Smoke and Mirrors", I don't think you have ever been to Korea and if you have, you obvously haven't spent much time there, so stop commenting on what you don't know. If you have, what is the name of the new multi-level shopping center in Myongdong at the fotsteps of the train station, next to Starbucks and KFC(Please, don't say Lotte! Because you would be wrong) hmmmmm Starts with an "M". Hmmmm come on, you should know this. It's a primary stop for foreigners in Seoul. Oh yes, how often would you say you see foreigners on any given day in Seoul? hmmm. 1 , 10, 100, 1000. I am courious. If youcan answer most o these questions and I am wrong, then my apologies, but I think I am right.
Leave the comments for legitimate mongers like Byung, Sam Katz, Agoodfella, and Magic 501.
Chopper Pilot,
No offense buddy, but sometimes, these little academic things help us to better understand Korean society, so that we don't do or say something stupid when trying to hook up. I would prefer to find a couple of nice girls and keep fucking them regularly, so that I don't have to keep looking for dry cock. I will try to keep it short if possible, but hey, this is good stuff.
Bangalot
Very eloquent and compelling argument you presented Agoodfella. It's very clear that you have a thorough understanding of Korea history and psyche. When you do, things just seems a lot easier. Despite the status issue, my Indian friend working in Seoul who's semi-fluent gets pretty consistent amount of freebie Bang-galore is probably named after him.
Recent history in the last century points to the fact that whites are some of the worst perpetrators of racial crime. Heck, when I was passing through the South or when I was studying in the mid-West, the way those folks were staring at me, I know their women were secretly longing for my big phat yellow Asian cock.
Which is really too bad because deep inside, I'd rather be white just like I'm planning to have my dick chop-off fairly soon (sorry I gotta add this last one in but I had a real good laugh over it...very sweet...hope you don't mind the ref Agoodfella).
T D
Lets drop this whole racism talk,
With any race or culture, some girls will like you, some won't.
Sam Katz aka ...
Oct 8 Chosun.com
Foreign Professor Caught with Prostitute On Campus
- AND Fired -.-
A visiting professor has been charged with paying for sex and engaging in the act in his apartment, not in the university dormitory as previously reported. According to the Dunsan Police Station in Daejon, the john was recorded three times in a prostitute's client list and was identified as 35-year-old Mr. B, a foreign language lecturer at a university's language center. He called the prostitute three times, on Sept. 14, 18 and 22, to his room at a foreign residents' apartment on campus and paid for the act by credit card.
The university fired Mr. B on Tuesday on the grounds that he acted inappropriately. He has since apologized to the school, saying that he was lonely because he lived alone and he was sorry to have caused the school trouble.
As news coverage of the on-campus sex scandal circulated around the school, concerned parents were calling in, said a dormitory inspector, adding that security at the dormitory is satisfactory.
Agreed let's stop "racism" - period.
Do you think I like to sit in front of the computer and point out blatant racism?
Let's stop making racist comments. Period.
Then we can go on talking about mongering, my favorite topic.
p.s. no offense taken Thaidude, i think we are on the same wavelength buddy
Big Fish might have made some controversial claims in his post but he got one thing right. Be persistent and the trim will be more consistant.
When I got here a decade ago I swore by one rule, and most of my friends will probably know who I am when they read this, but my rule was, THREE DATES. I would say that 90% of the girls I made it to a third date with ended up in my bed on the third date. It was just unbelievable. I preached it to newbies. Make it to 3 dates and you'll probably get laid.
Since moving to Seoul, the change of environment, i.e. huge city, as well as slow changes in society which have made it overall a little harder to score here might have knocked my "3 dates" score ration down a tad but I still think it's a good goal.
Of course it's not impossible to score on a first or second date. One girl who picked me up in a coffee shop wouldn't sleep with me on the night we met (even though my friend was banging her buddy on the roof of my house.) She had sex with me the very next night after she said "Last night I couldn't have sex because I didn't love you, but tonight I love you so I can."
Final comment on Big Fish's post and replies: Sure there are millions of hot girls here who'd never dream of screwing up their chances of marrying a Korean man with a good job and family by sleeping with a foreigner for a short fling. And I would even say yes it's getting much harder to score one night stands in places like Shinchon and Hongdae, maybe even Itaewon - (maybe I'm just getting old) but even so, there are still plenty of young hotties out there who are not ashamed to hang with foreigners whether for just a good time or for something more serious.
And I don't just mean the foreigner groupies. I'm talking about girls who have never met a foreigner but at some point they get curious and say "fuck it, I'm gonna step over the line."
Think about the population of this country then consider the fact that every year a new generation of ripe young ladies emerges from high school and college. There will always be enough to get some action. It's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time to meet them (if you want to meet the non groupie types) and getting that 3rd date.
Yawn........................
Chopper Pilot. I think, sadly, you are right. I called up the owner of FRIENDS. He said that the law is too hot, right now, so that his shop can only offer regular massage for now.
Sorry about that.
Thaidude"Recent history in the last century points to the fact that whites are some of the worst perpetrators of racial crime. "
Would you care to elaborate on that?
I read the report by Le Baron a couple months ago and I've been dying to visit Korea and O2. Well, I'm finally here on business and I made my visit yesterday. Here are my impressions and notes.
First, so that we're all on the same page and spelling, may I suggest that we use the map location and spelling from this site:
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/seou/seoul-map.htm
It's been a great resource for me. The map is very large and color coded and in English. Another note, when we mention station exits, lets specify it by naming the station before and after the stop. I think it's easier to locate that way.
Now back to O2.
To get there, take the subway to the Young San station. Its on the dark blue line between the Namyeong and Noryanjin stations. It's a large station within a shopping complex. Just follow the people out. They're all headed to the main junction. You have to walk out of the station and towards the right, over a catwalk and down some stairs out of the shopping complex. If you follow the masses, you will end up at the main junction. If you get lost, try to find the main road and look for the traffic signs. At the junction if you go right, you head towards the Seoul station. If you go left, you will head towards the Wonhyo bridge. Seoul station and Wonhyo bridge are not in the same direction. Head towards the Wonhyo bridge direction. You will pass a large circular building (Emart, Etrade, or something like that). I didn't see a CJ home shopping sign anywhere. Walk about 5-10 minutes and you will see a giant O2 sign on the street and on the building. It is located in the building which also houses a Hyundai dealership, so look for O2 or Hyundai, or ask merchants where the hyundai dealership is. If you are headed towards Wonyho, it will be on the left side of the street. Take the stairs to the basement B2.
Walk in, take off your shoes and get into the slippers provided by O2. Pay the receptionist 160000W and they will count the money and provide you a frequent visitors card. Follow the usher into your private room. I believe there are only 10 rooms at O2. After he escorts you to your room, tell him who you want, or the kind of girl you're looking for. They will try to accomidate, but it's really hit or miss. In your private room you have a sleeping matress, private bathroom, tv, phone, coat rack, and complimentary cigarettes and complimentary sodas in the mini fridge. Undress and get into your robe and unwind a bit. Take a smoke, drink a soda, use the restroom, make a local call, watch tv and wait for the usher to come back. When the girl is ready, the usher will come to your room and escort you to the girl's shower/bathing room. You can leave your personal belongings in your private room. The usher will lock the doors.
In the bathing room, you can get undressed or stay dressed during the face massage. The girl will ask if you want a shave before the face massage. After the shave and face massage, you get washed head to toe and brush your teeth. Then you sit in a tub jacuzzi and the girl will give you a soapy grind. Then she rinses you off and gives you a short bbbj. To clarify, when I first read Le Baron's post, I thought they let you pop 4 times, but it's a one shot deal. So the girl is not going to finish you off til the end. After drying off, you lay down on the matress. Then the girl will massage you with her body and mouth, including toe sucking and intense rimming. After the body/mouth massage, she gives another short bbbj and secretly slips on a condom. Then you go through a couple positions until you finish. Then you rinse off again and dry off and get dressed. Then you can chat with the girl until the receptionist calls to remind her that the time is up. The entire bathing/sex segment is about an hour in duration. She will call for the usher and he will come by to take you back into your room.
At this point, you can tell the usher you want a massage and he will send in a blind massuse. So while you wait for the massuse, you smoke, watch tv, make a phone call, or have a drink. The massuse will come to your room and he/she will give you a real non-sexual massage; a pretty good one at that. The real massage is included in the service and will last about 30 minutes or so.
After the massage you can get dressed and they will call you and ask what you would like to eat. The food selection is limited, but included in the service. You can choose from toast, noodles, beer, or snacks. They will bring the food to you after it's prepared. You eat in your room and after you're done eating, you can relax some more or get going.
Overall I thought it was worth 160000W for the private room, bath, soapy massage, sex, real massage, and food. It was a very enjoyable and relaxing 3 hour experience. Albeit, it's a bit pricey, but I was glad I could do it at least once during my visit.
Ranco
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It's 160,000 I think and you get serviced by super looking young ladie for 1 hour 40 minutes. Here is what you go through:
- Get in the room
- Get undressed, completely.
- Girl gets undressed. Some get completely naked, some only top naked, and others still have their panties and bras.
- You lie down on bed. (she will cover your central area with a towel ^^)
- facial massge
- a facial mask
- while you lay there for a few minutes, she will go fill the tub
- off goes the facial mask and in you go to the tub
- she will wash your body very carefully
- sometimes the jaccuzi, sometimes not....
- She will come into the tub
- body massge in the tub
- 1st BBBBJ
- Out of tub, she will wash your whole body with soap.
- Before washing off the soap 2nd standing body massage
- After washing off the soap, 2nd BBBJ
- She will wipe your dry and then 3rd BBBJ. Then you go lay down on bed again.
- She wil wash herself and start the oil rub and oily body massge, tongue massge, suction, and 4th BBBJ ice and fire style.
- On comes the condom
- Then FS
Once you are relieved, she will sit down and talk (obviously this option will not work if you don't speak Korean) with you.
Then when you catch your breath and feel relaxed, you 2 go back to the bath room and she will wash your body again with the soap. Some girls give you a final BBBJ at this point.
Here is how you go to this place.
From Wonhyo Bridge, go towards Seoul Station.
On your right you will see a 39 floor tall building saying CJ Home Shopping or something similar.
About 3 buildings down the road you will come to a Hyundai Motor Showroom.
The place is at the B2 level of this builing, but you have to go in through the left hand side entrance when looking at the building.
The place is called O2 as in oxygen.
Please note that, my being a Korean, I am sure if they accept foreigners, but from their service-oriented attitude, they would not refuse any customer.
Even the workers of the industry staged a protest against the government! More power to the workers! Although I can foresee that their voices and efforts make might little effort, it's more than what majority of the men here can do.
Let's just cross out fingers and wait it out.
So I was wondering, if anyone in Korea know of any chatting sites. I hear that since the crackdown, a lot of the "business" have moved over the internet. Girls need to do something to get by, so i hear that they mostly spend their time at PC bang(room), looking for customers online basically in the chatting or dating sites. Since we, mongers need to eat too, so I was wondering if anyone know of any chatting sites on the internet that might have some of the ladies. If you do, PM me please, also I am going to call my girl at RLD and see what she says. If I find out anything I will post them too.
Safe Hunting fellas!
Ball44
Some locals I know have said to avoid those types of places (anmas, barbershops, etc...) more so than the RLDs. Also heard from a different Korean friend that in the RLDs you can still get serviced but if there is a raid, the girl will leave the room and you're just supposed to pretend you were sleeping. I haven't confirmed any of this stuff yet so use caution.
I have been to a couple rooms in BCD since the crackdown and they will let you go to phase 2 but you will basically need to learn the girl's birthday and real name and also meet her at a different place. Basically have to pretend like she's your GF (dunno if this would apply to foreigners, I'm KA). I also hooked up a foreign client of mine to go to phase 2, but for him, they took him to a different place completely and with a different girl (he did say it was good though).
Also, just spent past 2 days in Daejeon and most of the locals I know have just been playing it safe during the month-long crackdown (though Daejeon, or Yuseong at least, still looked pretty busy).
In any case, be careful when you guys go out.