Expectations on SA etiquette
Hi all,
I'm rather new to SA and recently purchased a premium membership for an upcoming trip to Colombia. My question is, this is a very beginner question, but what is the expected order of operations / etiquette on SA, contact girl on SA, ask if they're interested in a date, is the usual expectation that we meet up go for drinks / dinner, come back to my apartment, and go from there? Do you tend to agree on money before hand or after?
Curious what more seasoned guys have down as general etiquette for everyone getting what they want and leaving content.
Thanks.
My recent experience with SA in Bogota
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2575003]Jesus Christ, what have I done with Colombia? LOL. Maybe I should get the obligatory finger wagging out of the way first, you know, to keep the tradition alive. You are paying $100 a month to score Colombian pussy? Do you know how much pussy that buys in Colombia? Man, you are fucking stupid. Okay, sorry. Just kidding. I have to let you who follow in my trail know the crap I had to put up with.
You will get a ton more hits in Colombia than here. I had 2 dates a day in Bogota and 3 in Medellin. The flake rate and tardy rate is high. If you are all fucked out and someone no shows, that may be a relief. If you are really horny and counting on a girl, have a Plan be handy which could be a see, the, E, and F in Colombia honestly.
I do not know what you are looking for on a date, but really I just wanted to see if they looked like their photos and I was good to go and DTF. The second date rule in the USA does not apply. Last date I had from seeking there I wasted two hours for dinner when the girl was clearly DTF when we just met. The women there in general do not have the anti-prostitution mindset of women here.
So coffee for first meet. In the 40 or so dates I had, there was only one girl who wanted to wait for a second date. In half the cases, I stupidly brought up price. Finally, I quit doing that and would meet women who were DTF without a price, and they were always better in bed. If the woman insists on a price, she is a working girl. I fucked plenty of working girls from SA and had fun but really that is a waste of time. You are better off being with women who admit to being working girls versus ones playing they are not. There are hot women there on seeking who want to fuck American men and do not want to be paid for it. The best ones will be out to prove that they want to fuck you and not get paid.
I always would meet them in my hotel and at the hotel cafe or restaurant. Use the excuse you do not know your way around. Again, you only have so much time so make sure they come to you to save time. You will be swamped with responses. The good ones will find you.
Get whatsapp. Get their numbers. Keep in mind that getting their number does not mean a date. Chances are one in 2 or 3 after that you will meet. A great trick is a lot of the woman who use WA make videos that you can see. With the videos, you can see what they really look like, and my reaction to that was all the way from "Damn, she is hotter than her pics" to "My god she is fat. " so that is a neat trick to use.
One last piece of advice is to repeat with the best you find. There was a guy here named Stinky Squid who found one and cut himself off from all the others. I do not recommend that. I would not have that degree of oneitis. However, if you find a good one do not think the next one is going to better. My second visit with a great Columbiana would usually trump a new one. My goal and I think the goal of guys is to find yourself a stable of keepers. Eventually, as in my case, one will probably become queen.
So meet at your hotel, coffee not a meal unless it is a quick one, no price if possible, if price say yea or nea but she is a working girl and remind yourself of that, repeat with the great ones. There are plenty there that will fuck you without being paid.[/QUOTE]First of all, I have to admit that the quality of SA girls in Bogota has gone downhill. Yes, the quantity is still there, and Bogota probably beats any other city in Latin America. However, the quality is not there. Just doing a simple search with only 2 parameters (18-27 yo range, with photos) brings 10000+ results. Most of them registered long time ago and have not been active for weeks or months. Around 200-300 or so are more or less active. Out of those couple of hundred only a few are 8 or above, others are average looking, in 5-6. 5 range. Want to find a spinner? Good luck with that! Most girls are fat, especially those who post 1-2 photos, or selfies only. I can almost guarantee that if a girl does not post a full body photo, she is fat. Even if you happen to find a very attractive girl, she either won't respond to your messages or will quote unrealistic price. One girl quoted me $5000, yes, USD, LOL.
95% of all the girls that I have recently contacted at some point just flake. They simply stop responding, delete profiles, change phone numbers or block you for no reason. Even if you have agreed on everything and decided to see each other. Very very few speak English, if they text in English, it does not mean anything, most likely they are using google translate, and if you don't speak Spanish I can guarantee your date will be awkward because of the language barrier and communication issues.
Current going rate is about 350-400 mil COP and up, depending on how hot she is. 8's and above will most likely quote higher numbers and won't budge, because the demand is there and there is a fewer competition.
As to the suggestion of not discussing a price, good luck with that! 99% won't be interested in seeing you. Yeah, there is a slim chance of meeting a college student who is looking to practice her English, or some woman in her 30's with kids looking for a husband, but do you really want that? Just because you are gringo does not mean she will fuck you for free, especially if you are older and below average looking. SA is all about the arrangement. They expect and want you to pay. The truth is, most of them are working girls. Some are pros, others are semi pros. Some are high volume, others are low volume. But they all know what we are looking for.
Elvis, if I followed your suggestion of not setting a price, I would probably get zero dates, because they would not be interested. I have read a bunch of reports here, where guys fuck 10's for free. I'm not saying this is impossible, especially if you are fit / good looking, speak their language and got your game, but for an average monger Joe chances to score an 8 for free are close to zero, I'm not even talking about 9's and 10's. If she is hot and in high demand, why would she fuck you for free? Doesn't make any sense.
Some of you will say I'm being too pessimistic, but this is my recent experience. I understand that my standards are high, and I'm not traveling to another continent to fuck average women. If you are not as picky as I am and willing to put time and effort, your chance of success will be much higher.