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Damn SH, I didn't know you were a poet.
On a slightly different vein, I once read somewhere that sex is the most honest of interpersonal relationships. This makes sense to me.
When you have dinner with someone, there are all kinds of posturing. You have to worry about getting something stuck in your teeth, should we go dutch, etc....but with sex, you make odd animal kinds of noise, swap bodily fluids, pussy farts, whatever...
I suppose this is true if two people actually like each other, or even if they are exchange money for sex. But if someone is using sex to manipulate you, then I guess it isn't so honest. I'll have to think about this one some more.
Bar girls. Money for adult fun ... so uncomplicated. Add love to the equation and you get grief.
I'm completely sober, but not sure if I'm making any sense. What do the rest of you think? Is sex the most honest of interpersonal relationships?
SH, let me know when you publish your book of bar girl poetry. I want an autographed copy.
X Man
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
I've seen more sucessful relationships
that originated on a chat line
than I have as a result of a bar fine.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I use camfrog I go into the chat rooms and click on videos thats about all I can do it gets pretty boring I haven't found what you have. Its hard to chat sometimes you mostly get ignored. Excuse my ignorance how do you get to chat one on one?[/QUOTE]
Chatting in the chat room rarely works...like you said, you mostly get ignored because of so many other people chatting. But once you click on a video, there's a little orange bubble at the top right above the video box...click that and you can send a private message, if the girl doesn't have private messaging disabled. Granted, it is hit or miss to some degree, but no more than Yahoo or any other chat room. What's worked for me is to just chit chat a bit and get to know the girl first...too many guys on there jump right into "hey, show us your boobs/ass/legs/whatever" and get nowhere. Good luck mate...
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The Usual Crowds
This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).
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interesting observation
[QUOTE=Island Hump]This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).[/QUOTE]
I would have to say that most of the guys on the board are 30+, most like age 40 and a few naughty old bastards like myself in their mid fifties and plus. I suppose a profile of guys we see on the board and in The Phils sampling the ladies might be older westerners fed up (Divorced) with western women, have the FINANCIAL means to come to the Phils and whoop it up, many retired (as I am) or Gettin' close.
I do see younger guys here, lots are divers, a few European back packer types etc. But they can score as well or even better than the older, more monied counterpart as most Filipina like younger men.
I first became a convert to the ASIAN PERSUASIAN when I was an 18 year old grunt serving in Vietnam, haven't been able to shake it since.
Good luck
Spamhog
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Only 22. Yea, forget about it. These girls will want nothing to do with you. You guys fk all night and pay too little.
SH, my first Asian love was the shy Chinese immigrant who waited at the same bus top as me in first year hs. She was one of only a few Asians in the whole hs of 2000. She was super exotic and also super shy - as I was. Duh.
Just a few years later I made my way to Subic Bay courtesy of the same employer as SH, only I was called a swabbie rather than a grunt. Only 19.
IsleHump, the girls would have nothing to do with me when I was 19. They really like the older guys. I recommend you go to Pattaya.
X Man
[QUOTE=Island Hump]This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! So far, I haven't come across any from Singapore or Indonesia yet though. And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)
I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Thailand so we'll see how it goes.
The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.
Anybody else using camfrog?[/QUOTE]I use CamFrog, and was going to mention it also. Your right some of the rooms get packed and it is hard to get a word in,, or as in the Thai rooms its mostly in Thai language save for the beggers, but I think the Thai server has cracked down on the women getting naked there.. I found it worth while to look into the smaller rooms where its not as fast. I talk with a few Filipinas there and they seem cool so far and looking for whatever really.
Some of the women "showing" on there are pre-recorded videos, not all, but have seen alot. You can also tell whos watching you, which tell a person ur intrested. The Pro version is like $50,, I haven't sprung for it yet though,, but bigger vid screen and mutiple ones would be nice. U can also tell what room ur contacts are in.
The Fling site that someone mentioned before is mostly women from North America that are real, most filipinas there are bots, or porn cammers. I only know of a few that are normal so to say. I got a free account there,,but I'd never pay for it thats for sure.
Also would like to mention Webdate.com , its a little better than Fling site, more of a normal dating site, it might even be free I think,, not sure about that. They have a webcam chat rooms as well and more regular filipinas there, than Fling. I have been a member there for years,, and before it was heavy with Flips,,lol.
Finally a filipina that I know in Manila always said internet girls are not the best,,but most in cafes if not all are scammers or just plain old bad news. The ones with home internet access are better choice if your looking to meet a "Good girl". She claims to be a good girl, and after chatting regularly for over 6 months she never asked for a dime, so maybe she is.
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advise needed
hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink
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is this a friend you know in person, or someone whom you met online?
i would be careful, i have heard many sad stories to get "mabait" guys to "help them"
not saying this is the case here, but i have heard it all before.
[quote=blink157]hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink[/quote]
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CamFrog
I have been using Camfrog also but not for picking up women - mostly for voyeurism. As pointed out, the most popular rooms are so busy with beggars that you cant get a word in edgewise. Plus the women are exhibitionists mostly - they are not looking to hook up. I also find that SE and E Asian woman don't show as much as white chicks. I tend to stick to NA or UK rooms. Here you can see couples having sex live on cam. After a week of using the non pro version, I sprung for the pro verison ($54). It's good in that you can watch mutiple (up to 100) cams at once. But full screen is not something I would count on. The resoltuion on most of these cams is so low that when you turn them into a big window they are pixelated to the point of being useless. Sociologically, I am amazed how easy it is to get women to strip - with just a bucch of seemingly sincere compliments.But I guess this is no news considering what happens at Mardi Gras.
Chhers.
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Not worth it
[quote=blink157]hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink[/quote]
let me give you some advice that may save your life: dont get involved in this!!!!!
you have no idea of the complexities of the situation. right now, election time in the pi, all of this is politically related, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. if the nbi or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for any type of transgression. there is a lot of talk nowadays about "protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "cyber sex dens" etc, fred lim, the notorious former mayor of manila is running again and showing pix on tv of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.
this filipina might be able to go to some organization like gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of your involvement in it.
if she is working the cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. dont get involved in it, you have no standing at all and if "they" think she is the gf of a foreigner they will smell money and you make her situation worse.
find another one, plenty of 'em.
spamhog
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Spam hog is right!
Hi Guy!
Spam hog is right! Keep away run away!
I lived in and did business in PH for 3 years. Do not get tagged by the NBI.
If you get tagged by the NBI. It can get back to you, even if you are just an innocent.
If this NBI guy is bad enough the locals will lose him. But every "story" has a story.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Let me give you some advice that may save your life: DONT GET INVOLVED IN THIS!!!!!
You have no idea of the complexities of the situation. Right now, election time in the PI, ALL OF THIS IS POLITICALLY RELATED, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. If the NBI or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for ANY type of transgression. There is a lot of talk nowadays about "Protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "Cyber sex dens" etc, Fred Lim, the notorious Former mayor of Manila is running again and showing pix on TV of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.
This Filipina MIGHT be able to go to some organization like Gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of YOUR involvement in it.
If she is working the Cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. DONT GET INVOLVED IN IT, YOU HAVE NO STANDING AT ALL AND IF "THEY" THINK SHE IS THE GF OF A FOREIGNER THEY WILL SMELL MONEY AND YOU MAKE HER SITUATION WORSE.
Find another one, plenty of 'em.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]LOL! Brilliant![/QUOTE]Great idea, Bumbo!!! Can anyone share with us how a western union number looks like. How many digits, etc.? LOL!
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Thanks guys
Hi,
Thanks for the advise Spamhog and Hobbyknob.
I gave her info what to do and thats it for me. She told me she will think of it, but maybe she won't continue cause she fear for her lifeandher auntie who arrives from oversea told her also to stop this, so I'm out of this now.
I woud like to see this guy busted, but it ain't my war. These days its also hard to beliveand I guess I will stick to the rules, seeing is believing.
I'm back in July, maybe some of you guys will be around and we can have a few beers.
Have a nice day all and happy hunting.
Blink
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Good luck Dutch guy...
Christine Butuan sweet girl: hi
Christine Butuan sweet girl: how are you??
x: Hello Ms butuan.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes
Christine Butuan sweet girl: are you engage?
x: No, why ask such a question.
(a long pause)
x: I have to go, thanks for the interesting chat.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i have boyfriend already
x: Wow, thanks for the intersting information.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: your welcome
Christine Butuan sweet girl: so plss dont send me any message
x: I didn't send you a message. You sent me a message. But, next time you send me a message, I promise not to respond....after all - you have a boyfriend!
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just replied your message
(I had sent a generic message to several ladies in my Mindanao ym list suggesting I might be soon taking an overseas trip.)
x: Why did you reply to my message if you don't want any messages? Are you having some mental ilness?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just reply coz i want you to know that im taken
x: By who?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who tried to chat with me
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who ignore me before
x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines
x: Well, I wish you the best of luck. It seems like you have a guy you can depend on.
x: Does he speak spanish or any other Philippino language?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never
Christine Butuan sweet girl: dutch
x: Well, maybe you can introduce us. I'll be in Mindanao in July. WIll he be there the same time. I'll go to Davao and CDO.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope, im going to singapore to meet him
Christine Butuan sweet girl: who's US?
x: "us"...well, that means people of the usa. If he's dufch, I don't want to meet him. Thanks anyway.
x: How long will you stay in Singapore?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: one month
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes he is dutch
Christine Butuan sweet girl: why you dont like dutch people?? he is nice
x: I've met some nice dutch people.
x: How do you know he's nice. Have you met him face to face?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes
x: Where?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: in butuan
Christine Butuan sweet girl: last january
x: I asked you if he visited Philippines, and you said no.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes but not in july
????then I quote our exchange from earlier...
x: x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines
????
Christine Butuan sweet girl: he just visit last january
x: You should write a book about your dream. It's always nice to read some good fiction.
x: Good luck Christine. I have to go now.
x: Remember, you have a boyfriend...so you shouldn't write me anymore.
x: Try to control yourself.
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Thanks, x man. I was unaware of this thread. Most of the cam girls I've been falling for are on asianbabecams.com. I had assumed that most or all of them are bar girls.
I'm new at this, and I guess I'm just in awe of how sexy some of these girls are, perfect bodies, young, etc. and I just wondered whether I'll be able to connect with such honeys as these if I just show up and hit the bars.
Sure do appreciate your response and the insights on this thread.