Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change swiss francs in Rio and does anybody know if the exchange rates are good.
Thanks
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Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change swiss francs in Rio and does anybody know if the exchange rates are good.
Thanks
I am convinced that Rio is the place to go. I was going to split a week between Rio and Buenos Aires, but everyone convinced me that Rio is all I am looking for.
Some final questions:
Has anyone stayed at the Savoy Othon Hotel? Should I just get an aparment instead? If so what part of town ?
I am going to plan on the escort/agency route. It seems the most reliable and best situation because I don't speak portuguese and because it is cheaper. I do speak Spanish decently. I am sure I will venture out to Help and termas, but the escort route appeals to me the most.... 5 women at once for $600 Real for 2 hours. I cannot pass that up on my last night.
Is there protocol to getting their pictures? I want to capture the memories.
I am willing to pay for some help down there-- a local guide. Any offers?
I guess I have to get a cell phone. Recommendations?
If I take my laptop, how can I get internet so that I can make daily escort decisions based on that day's pervesions?
I will post an incredibly thorough review and info when I get back. I will make it up to everyone.
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Change in my plans. I am going to Buenos Aires and Rio. The airfare deal I got through priceline was too good to pass up.
Arrive in Buenos Aires midday June 25. Arrive in Rio midday June 27. Leave Rio July 1st.
If anyone is down there during that time, any help would be repaid in kind down there road. Think of it as mongering karma.
Just PM me through this site.
I know the Savoy Orton and it's OK but about 3 star at best, basic small rooms available there. I don't think they have internet access. If you take that route get a room facing the BACK.. too mush street noise facing the front..
As for bringing in your laptop, no need, as there are many Internet cafes in Copacabana. One right around the corner from that Hotel.
Apartments usually do not have phone lines so that is not a really good option if you bring your laptop.…. They do offer more privacy and they are most often less expensive.
Cell phones.. since apartments do not have phones, renting one is a good idea. Average price is about $5-6.USD a day.. There are companies that charge you for incoming and outgoing calls and that can be expensive.. Make sure you are paying only for your outgoing calls..
As for the escort route, that one option… Also, do not forget the termas……
Read up here and you should have enough info. to see you through. A guide may help but is not necessary.
The Nextel phones do work, the rate is 2.50 per minute, but the Direct Conect is $.15/ per minute. That is great to call back to the US. I do not know what the coverage is like though.
Will Fore
I am interested to know what price you paid on PL. I am contemplating doing do same, but don't want to pay too much.
Thx
Some useful language for the mongering habit in Brasil. I'm a gringo but have over the last few months figured some of the more useful lingo out.
Verbs-
transar- to have sex
chupar- to suck (used for blowjobs and DATY)
Ir-to go (irregular verb)
ferrar/foder- fuck (although not heavily used, go with transar)
fazer programas (to be a prostitute) (fazer is irregular)
trair- to cheat
mentir- to lie
Você vai transar comigo? (you will have sex with me?)
Você gostaria/queria transar comigo? (you want to have sex?)
Nouns-
preservativo/camisinha- condom
bebida- drink
garota- girl
garota de programa- prostitute
ficante- (I think another word for garota de programa or girlfriend, not sure....)
amante- lover, girlfriend
namorada- girlfriend
boquete- blowjob
Adjectives-
atraente- attractive
bonita/linda- pretty
magra- skinny
solteira/o- single
inacreditável- unbelievable
loura- blond
morena- brunette
bêbado/a- drunk
Você é atraente (bonita, linda, magra)
Eu sou .....
Interjections
Puxa! shows surprise
Ah! admiration
Oba! shows surprise, happiness
Beleza! great
Opa! shows shock (for instance when you suddendly open the door and the chick is butt ugly, you could scream out Opa!)
tá- Nobody in this country uses Sim (yes). tá is a confirmation. or "tá bom"
I just went back and read a few more pages. Always remember. You can always pay a girl (garota) tons of money to be with you. I just read a great post on a private board I'm on. He posted that he could pay a girl in one day what she makes in a week. In the end, if she truly doesn't like spending time with you she will leave after you stop paying her.
If a girl truly cares about you, loves you and respects you she won't ask you for money, she'll do what she can do to pay her fair share (or at least offer to pay some).
Many guys think just because these girls do what they do they are "hardened pros" that are incapable of a loving relationship. I'm finding out that isn't true. Many of these girls are doing this out of survival. They are helping their families, have kids, etc. The way I look at it we aren't any better than they are. They don't have money they offer sex for money. We have money, we want sex so we pay for it. In both instances, it's a "show me the money" type attitude.
I don't see anything wrong with it. Sex IS just sex. Still, I wouldn't wish this JOB on a friend, a sister, or my mother and I suspect neither would any of you.
We look at these girls like they are 'damaged goods'. You know what? They probably are. This type of work they do takes an emotional toll on them. You know what? We are also 'damaged goods'. Some of us (myself definitely included) is probably incapable of having a serious relationship with just one girl.
Vegas Baby,
Do keep us posted on the plight of your friend. Good luck.
Saint
Saint,
The plot thickens.
The lonely millionaire got a phone call a few days after my last post. It was his garota calling from Cancun. Her cell phone had been a temporary one. She now has a new cell phone.
He was elated beyond belief. I was glad to see him in such good spirits. Everything was still a go he said. The immigration papers have been filed. The Lawyer says 3-4 months for her visa. This last sunday he's on his way back to Cancun for 2 days to see her once again.
I get a call monday morning from Cancun. He says the club she works at was raided and has closed down. She is out of work and broke. Her roomate is going to Japan in 2 weeks and wants her to come along. Apparently the trip is for 3 months or longer. She doesnt want to go. She says she will stay in Cancun and study english 5 days a week at a local school. She says her expenses will run $1000.00 a month. He says she seems depressed and different on this trip. He asks me for my advice.
This is serious I am not sure whats right. My first thought is get out while you can. A loophole has presented itself use it. This will never work I say your 50 shes 22 the language barrier cultural differences etc If we had this discussion once we had it 50 times.
He agrees with me. We both say its for the best etc.
I think about it all day and realize maybe he should play this out. What does he have to lose? A few lousy dollars. He has plenty of those. He easily spends 30 grand on his mongering.
I think about all his hard work year in and year out. And how much time is left on the clock.
I call him back later that night in Cancun. I say go for it I changed my mind. Who knows maybe just maybe?
So he will start sending her some money another trip to Cancun is planned in a couple weeks. He is optimistic and says whats a few grand? He will play this out and we'll see what happens.
Vegas Baby,
Here is the advice I'd give and it's worth as much as you paid for it. (Nothing). You need to ask your friend why he thinks he is in love with her. How long has he known her? I've been to Cancun many many times. It's easy to get along in a place with some of the best stretches of ocean in the world. Cancun isn't reality with tropical sun and beaches. It's a vacation there. Can he communicate with her? I mean really communicate? I hear so many guys telling me, "but I don't argue with this girl". Then I ask him if he speaks Spanish/Portuguese. The answer is usually "no". Does she speak English?? "No". How the hell can you argue if you can't communicate!!??
I'm not saying it's impossible but what the hell does a 50 year old have in common with a 22 year old? Hell, I just spent a ton flying in a 20 year old to spend a week with me and I'm not that much older than her and I found that I had nothing in common with her. I could never see myself in a serious relationship with a girl that can't speak English.
Your friend sounds like he has money. That's great. It certainly makes life easier. Many guys go into the hobby hoping to find a relationship. I do the opposite. I meet girls that do want a relationship but I usually just want a few hours, days, whatever.
It's ok if your friend realizes she is just with him for money. Maybe she is and maybe she isn't. The thing he needs to ask himself is if the money ran out would she stay with me? For many guys they aren't deluding themselves. They know it's the money and they simply don't care. I think that's the healthiest attitude. For some they believe it's love. And maybe it is. None of us are in his shoes so we can give all the advice we want.
The K1 process doesn't seem to be that difficult from what I'm reading on the various websites. I really think that anyone could do it without a lawyer. The thing where the lawyer would come in handy is making the prenupt.
I'd advise your friend does bring her in on the fiance visa process if he is so set on it. He has 90 days to marry her. Encourage him to take that time and really get to know her. See how she acts. Maybe even tell her that business is not so good and that money could be a problem. See how she reacts.
Personally, I think if he is financially able to he should go to Brazil where she lives and spend a few weeks or months living with her, getting to know her family, getting to know her friends, but most importantly getting to know HER because it seems obvious that he doesn't REALLY know her now.
Ask your friend these questions. What is the best quality about this girl that he likes the most? What is the worst thing about her that he hates? What annoys him about her? (If he says nothing he obviously doesn't know her). What was her family life like? Is she mentally and emotionally stable? Does she have medical problems? Does she want kids? Does he want kids? What if she DOES have a serious medical problem. Is he ready to cope with it? Does she has a criminal history? What were her past relationship with guys (foreigners) like? What are her goals in life? Marriage isn't a microwave dinner where you don't want to invest any real time, money or effort. It's some serious sh*t!
Life is damn short. You should do whatever the hell in life that makes you happy. Whether you spend $30, $300, $3000 or $30,000 or $300,000 in this hobby of ours. In the end, money doesn't matter. Happiness is what counts.
Personally, I'd advise he invest some money and maybe have someone in Cancun do some checking up on her. See how she spends her days in Cancun. Some guys might say, "oh you don't trust her..yadda yadda yadda". That may be true but at this stage he is crazy to trust her and she might be crazy to trust him too. Just because he has money doesn't mean he isn't some pyscho.
Also, when/if she arrives to the USA I'd advise he uses some sort of spyware on the computer to at least monitor her activities on the internet. I'm not saying to keep doing it but at least he can see if what she is telling him is the truth.
No easy solutions. Marriage is tough enough without all the complications of the situation. Wish him good luck for me.
Saint
I agree with your point of view. The friendship is 3 months old. Love is premature at this time.
However he says there is something special about this girl. In all the years of mongering he has never been involved like this. Vacations are fantasies.
Really communicate? I have heard people say after 30 years of wedded bliss we never communicated!
As far as having something in common you are right. Probably nothing. But this can be aquired.
I have repeated over and over its the wallet that is the attraction for her.
But perhaps she views him as a saviour and a better way of life.
Maybe she just wants to play him for a while.
I do not know.
We have discussed most of your points at length allready.
Lets see where this goes.
I will post info as I get it.
any other comments or points of view are welcome
Vegas Baby
Hello everyone,
Will be in Rio starting from June 23. Need some advice on buses to Sao Paulo. I think the World Traveller had posted some info on this subject before. My return flight is out of Sao Paulo on July 12th, so I was thinking of spending a week in Rio and then haul ass to Sao Paulo for the rest of my trip. I have heard that the luxury air-conditioned coach buses take about 8 hours to drive from Rio to Sao Paulo with short stops along the way for food and stuff. Anyone that has done this type of trip before, please point a fellow monger in the right direction. Bus company? pricing?
Almotu
Vegas Baby,
I hope you will take my experience and history in account for what it is worth. My ex girlfriends mother is from Mexico. She married a man from California and immagrated ( legally ) way back in 1963 . At the time she was 29 and he was 64 ! They had two children. One , my girlfriend who is 37, and her younger sister who is 31 now. Yes he was a father at 73 !! By all accounts the marrage was a happy one. Even though he passed on about 10 years ago, she still worships the ground he walked on !! This is not to say that the adjustment was not difficult. She did not speak english and still struggles with it to this day. She choose not to learn to drive and is still dependent on others to drive her around. There was a culture clash that still causes problesm between her daughter and her grandaughter to this day. Anyway, the point I am trying to make is it can work, but it is very hard. Not only does the language play into it but so does the cultural differences.
So there you have it. Tkae it for what it is worjht
The Lonely Millionare saga continues.
The call came yesterday from Cancun her mother is ill and she must return to Brazil. If you have been following this thread you will be aware of the back story.It seems these girls have a script. How many times will this shit continue to work?
In any event the Lonely Millionare having just returned from Cancun this last Tuesday was still gung ho on this girl.
She was supposed to start english classes on June the 7. I was skeptical. His arrangement was 250.00$ per week for her rent and expenses. A small amount.
I think she saw the opportunity as the finacial door was opend a crack. If a toe will fit in why not the whole foot?
He called me to say you were right. The sick mother story has been let out of the bag and boy does it stink.
Now he say's no money fuck it!
I doubt he has the resolve to stick to his guns but we will see.
Vegas,
I have been follwing this one with interest! no doubt some of these girls do indeed have sick family members but I hear it so often that a good precentage have to be fradulant tales of woe. Don't see how anyone can get their heart wrapped up into this. must be one lonely person as mongering is cleary more about busting a nut with some hot girl you don't know.
I myself, find that it is that act of her willingness to let me fuck her brains out for just some money is what keeps me so fired up. I love just looking into their eyes and wondering what are they thinking, it is the act of sexual intimacy tied to the fact that this young hot nest doesn't know me and I don't know her. just living out my porn fantasies. There is always a few that you find yourself attracted to and wonder but let's be frank she has her game on, just like you do.
If you want a wife, long-term girlfriend the only sane answer is to go find a non garota de programa. Of course, money is involved in every relationship but you know it shouldn't be the foundation which is your going to find trying to base a relationship with a garota de programa. she knows you and you know her. you both have been transacting a sexual experience on a basis of an exchange of money. How can anything positive start from that? No brainer.