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[QUOTE=Lukasek]...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...[/QUOTE]Lukasek,
This is my thinking: when a garota is in my flat she is my guest. Therefore, she can either do what I say for the agreed price, or get the hell out of my apartment. And this "crap" about "you don't like me"? And some add a few tears behind it. So what. Most of the young garotas pull that crap. You are not in Rio to waste your time with BS. Not even the, "I got to help my family" line is your problem.
I am not saying to be mean, but some of those girls will get away with what you allow. Drugs is a definite "no no"! The minute one of them opens a vial of drugs or a joint, she can give the Brazilian Police a blow-job, and more, to prevent herself from getting arrested. What can you do? So kick her out of your flat off the bat. And if you see her again, pay attention to who she socialize with. These girls have a network. If one uses drugs, then most likely her friends do drugs. And in some cases, the police know them.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.[/QUOTE]
You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...[/QUOTE]
Hey I agree with you and no they don't usually pull it out but most working girls use drugs to some extent. I have mongered in many countries all over the world and even in small villages in West Africa you will find the girls use some kind of stimulation. They usually don't pull it out because they are stingy with their stash.
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Way too high of a price.
Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.
I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Beavis]You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.[/QUOTE]This time off year upto 50 % off the women in help use cocaine, as alot off the girls there are back from europe etc. (party girls). Fewer will use it after easter.
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[QUOTE=Orebell]All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer.[/QUOTE]
I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.
[QUOTE=Orebell]I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. [/QUOTE]I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.
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[QUOTE=Orebell]Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.
I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.[/QUOTE]
Wow those girls are reaching for the stars with those prices. That is the thing with independent GDP's, they will quote a far fetch price to see if a gringo will go for it, or accept the first offer. I have a firm or a set price for the night too & depending on how my interaction with the girl is. A quote for R600 sounds like a price for a few days not one night.
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I'm not supprised of how the prices develop. If some guys still believe they are in the US and are willing to overpay, the prices will go up further. Why should a girl be satisfied with 600R when she can find idiots willing to pay 700R? You can observe this development for years.
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What happened to me.
I had a sort of funny situation happen with me recently. I picked up this 22 year old girl from Help last week. The story she told me was she is on vacation from work and is just picking up a few extra bucks at Help. She says she works as a secretary. I have no reason to not believe her. I get her back to my apartment and I forgot to put some newer towels in the bathroom for her. She comes out of the bathroom asking me who's towel this is with all the make up on it. Oh shit, I got a psycho one on my hands is what I am thinking. I hemmed and hawed and laughed a bit and told her it was my mother's. And I went to get her a fresh towel. She kept asking me about it with this sly smile on her face so I had a good feeling she was just razzing me but not serious. I then said to her that I thought she said she did not like the jealous type. She had mentioned to me earlier that the reason she broke up with her boyfriend was because he was too jealous all the time. Hmm, I wonder why he might be jealous. When I reminded of her what she said, she sort of laughed and went into the bathroom to shower and that was the end of it. Honestly I think she was just playing around with me and maybe it was some sort of turn on for her.
I honest thought perhaps I got a real inexperienced one on my hands here and things are not going to be fun tonight. She comes out of the bathroom after her shower in just her towel and within 2 minutes had the towel off and I was licking her nipples. She was a little hottie.
The little vixen had me up 4 hours later wondering what she and I were going to do today. I was like sleep would be good. But she wanted to go down the the beach. So I dragged myself out of bed and spent about 3 hours with her down at the beach. She had to go do some stuff with her family that day and then off she went. I almost had her talked back into coming back up to the apartment for a quickie but she did not give in and left to go be with her family.
All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.
I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.[/QUOTE]
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Dude. How do you think she felt. LMAO. Maybe she thought its not often a 22 yr. Old girl gets to screw a 44 yr old guy also. But we talkin about Brazil. LMAO!
All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.[/QUOTE]
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helpee
I have to laugh all the stupid Guys in Help who believe all the “I’m a student” or “I don’t live in Rio” crap. I have often chatted to and played a game with my puta friends. We’d make up stories to tell the Guys, each story getting one more ridiculous. If the guy believes it I get a wink. Great laugh.
It is simply amazing how guys think they are in a real disco club not a *****house. Getting all puffed up and thinking they are special because some Puta likes their cash.
Ordinary Brazilians say about Help “Where the worst of Brazil meets the worst of the world”. Yes if they know you go to Help they think you are a piece of dirt. Who cares! I love Help as you get a real predatory type of ho there, I love them.
One point of caution, ever notice how few Brazilian men go to Help, while the Termas are full of them, ever wonder why? While there are many reasons one answer is HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. You ever see an ex -Termas girl in Help, that can mean she failed the health check, don’t purchase her.
Over the last week or so I rented 4 girls from Help, all good. I paid no more than R$300 (all night) and as low as R$150 (bang & return). All did bbbj cim, anal, and licked my ass (always check in advance).
I often take a girl out for a 1 hour quickie for R$150, have to get there early and take them before 1pm, me and the girl return about 2pm. Many times they look for me to pay the entrance, haha, do they think I’m a fool, no way baby. They still will go with me the next time I want them for a quickie. They usually pick a guy up later so they are all happy.
Later in the night after 3am you can get all-nighters for R$300 or less. Always negotiate with the garota, you get some respect, they don’t respect stupid gringos. A good technique is to tell them you have been to Villa Mimosa (R$28 for fuck and suck) earlier that day, and ask them why they are worth more. Sets the transaction in context!
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Cancun
When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.
When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.
What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.
This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.
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Yesterday at help....
....obviously after the cocaine girl I wanted something good, I spoke with about 4 girls, besides the price from 400 till 300, the problem was that there was no chemistry, just a couple of minutes of conversation and then they asked me, let's go or not ? I hate such a cold beginning, in my experience seldom you get a GFE when it starts like this.
When I was almost thinking to go home alone and thinking too that to open a terma from midnight till 7:00 am could be a good idea....I noticed a slim blonde cute girl...she stand alone, no smile, no dance...I thought, let's try....when I asked her if she speak english, she said, of course....
We take 2 drinks and we immediately went to sit down out and we had more than one hour of conversation, slowly touching and later kissing, I had the feeling I was went back when I was teenager, the feeling to be with a regular.
She told me that she works in Germany and that she is here for holiday.
I thought...after the cocaine girl I wanted to try do it in different way...I did no ask for the price, I did not ask for the service, I did no ask for how long time and why ???
Cause there was a wonderful chemistry hardly you build in so little time with an unknown person till a while ago.
Maybe I was crazy, usually I ask in advance even too much things, cause I hate to pay without know what I am gonna to buy, but this time, I thought to ask was the fastest way to break down the chemistry, so I decided to trust the way we feel good and confortable each other.
How it ends ?
Now it is 16:37 and she left my flat a while ago....ok there was no anal, but was so good sex, so nice conversation and when she went to take the shower I was in toilet too to wash my teeth and when I was in shower I asked her to stay in toilet so we could keep on have conversation, I am sure she did no take drugs.
She slept in my arms in so sweet way I still hardly believe I took her from help. We had sex 3 times, but she almost allow me to do all what I wanted, the second time, she was deep sleeping and I woke up her with DATY and we went forward...
The bad thing ? Maybe you think the price, but, the bad thing here is that out of help we went to the similar mac donald you find on the right, immediately 3 children close to us....she said no problem but I with my hands I made them to stay apart from my body...when one fast as a rabbit literally jump against her, pick up her chain at her throat and while he was landing he pull down with his light weight of the child he was, but more than enough to broke the chain. A while later he was running away....I was shocked, so fast he did.
It should be a very bad sign for me, cause what the price I was gonna to pay that she lost her chain too ? But with class, she neither a bit sad or impressed, said, in half hour of work in Germany I will buy another one gold chain, this is why I love europe...
Ok to make long short....when she said goodbye at 16:00, remember more than 12 hours together...., I asked her, tell me.....she said, I work more than enough in German, I went with you cause I like you and if I did not feel good with you, surely I did not sleep all the morning....but still she did not want to say the price....again I asked her, how much ? She said, is it ok 200 ?
I said yes, it is ok and so far as I gave her only 2 banknote of 100 reais each, she kindly asked 10 reais for taxi, that surely could have not to change the 100 reais.
So....I have her e mail, we should meet in germany or I told her I invited her to my hometown, cause... she is drug free, she drunk 2 beers and 1 water with me at help, when usually girls try to drink as fish, she is very sweety, good english....she seems to me a sort of diamond in help considering the sharks I spoke with in the last 2 weeks....
So yes...even with 200 reais you can have wonderful time here, even if it takes a lot of time to find the right girl, to me it happens yesterday and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....
So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...
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... and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....
So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...[/QUOTE]
Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.
PJ
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[QUOTE=Langer]When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.
When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.
What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.
This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.[/QUOTE]When I was at Cancun the attendants near the showers ad a box wrapped in Christmas paper, I was in Rio Dec. 3 - 15, and they kept bugging me about putting moeny in their box. Now all I had on is a bathrobe. So I go to my locker got R$5.00, showed it to them and put it in the box. Why? Because they could make your stay there bad with the girls.
I didn't want to tip them, but what choice do you have when they could put poison in yor game while you are there. Small change can go a long way. That's why you tip the right people. Most employees at termas are close, and I think Americans and Europeans, alike, get pegged as rich arrogant assholes by the locals.