I knew her in passing from a previous visit but talked to her quite a while on my last visit. I am a little surprised to hear she did this because my take on her is that she is a real nice girl that happens to work in the club. She speaks good English and spent a lot of time(by Palace standards) talking to me even though I think she knew I probably was not interested. I liked her a lot as a person but she is a B lister imo and I would not take her unless it was an off night there and I just wanted to give it a shot. She's not ugly, she is just not fine imho. She is not exactly busy either so maybe it was a way for her to grab 25E. I understand Panda's situation though in that he did not want trouble and was not sure what the rules were. Along with that you have Palace's weakass management siding with the girl so what are you going to do?
I think it was a cheap trick to pull for 25E though. I'm going to remember this and make sure a girl doesn't start kissing or that I pull away if she starts.
[quote]It is unfortunate, but it does happen, esp. to newbies who don't speak German or those who tend to feel a bit out of their element.
This girl Valentina, I know, for sure, is a bit of a shark. You should have figured this out.[/quote]
[quote]When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro![/quote]
Valentina speaks English well so I am sure this had nothing to do with the communication problem unless you are referring to management not speaking English making Panda unable to make his case. I also don't see how one can figure out a girl is a shark that quick in most cases. We are in sex clubs and girls make advances to seduce. Are we to take the view that only the girls who lay back and wait on a guy are good sessions and true GFEs? Nah, there's no real way around this situation. If all he did was touch tongues with her a little, something that many of us have done with girls who did not consider it a commitment or try to hook us for 25E, then he simply got taken advantage of.
It sounds to me like management heard Panda's side and said he owed 25E. What can he do? He did not volunteer to give her 25E and even tried not to. It's easy to sit on an internet board and say what someone should not have done. But management, presumably the people that run the club and decide if you can stay or not, said he owes the money.
I hate those situations because they really do ruin your balance for a while and make you a little insecure about what's right and wrong in the clubs. Then on your next session or two you're a little off wondering what the scam will be this time and on your way to the locker to get money you just know she's going to tell you it's 50E extra cause you went overtime or something.
I think Palace management sides with the girls because they know they need a lot of girls to be there to attract men. Girls are their lifeblood believe it or not, not us. A girl works there five nights a week, while the average customer is there fewer than five nights a year. Don't forget, the girls pay 75E to walk in too.
What is the downside of telling a girl that you read about her on the internet and she needs to be careful about screwing guys out of money like this? On the one hand it might get around to girls that you read the internet, so what. On the other though it lets them know that guys talk about this stuff and it costs them more money in the long run.