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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2555197]Pretty sure no Americans visiting EU without a family / significant other / employer / sponsor. Naturally I haven't to Samya in over a year. 6 months for anyone else. A lot has happened since then.
Yeah okay, some people wouldn't go for various criminal / religious identifier apprehensions. But that was last fall. If Germany goes the vaccine passport route, contact tracing may no longer be deployed. Who knows how they will proceed? I don't know, they don't know, and you certainly don't either.
But some good news for you if you go to an empty club. If you're the only one there, you can say again tell everyone, "All the girls come to me because I am the best lover in the history of all lovers."[/QUOTE]Most of Turkish or Balkanians don't want to give their data, when a bad guy like me has no problem, I'm not a Donald 123, when many at Globe before they checked. Except at World, my regulars are usually the prettiest and busiest, but they come to repeat and I need this, I couldn't run after or wait, which would kill my desire, but they were all free to choose others and then to forget me. Even she improved following me, but my best FKK girl was mainly for her behavior to make free for me, even LR busy superstar with guys who couldn't get her, and this woke up my desire. After look, behavior is the most important for me. I just smiled when reading your French friend here telling she was never free, but at least twice weekly for me, coming to me, same than about Sandra. De at Sharks on 2015, even I didn't go twice on a day with her. At Samya, on reopening, I could repeat with really sexy Tina, many years after, really welcoming, but not for my way for love in bed. Maybe again on few years.
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[QUOTE=Adindas;2555181]Is giving your private information, showing your passport just during the COVID-19 pandemic or it is becoming a norm??[/QUOTE]Since first reopening, you had to write your data: phone, name, address, in Germany or Switzerland and some clubs asking to check your ID and phone. No problem for me, just legal business and no club never blackmailed me, when some guys need to look in my car, take photos of it, or of me in clubs. When brothels are risky playfield and can easily become a cluster, I find this quite good to contact as contact case, but I was never contacted after my visits. I think still asking data in Swiss clubs which are open.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2555221]I am more familiar with the Brazilian clinicas and termas and it is quite normal to be asked by a hot female there to meet off site whether to go to the beach or just hang out. Ten years and more in the past I used to get similar invitations from girls at FKKs but not so in more recent years.[/QUOTE]I have brought "a few FKK girls" to my hotel room for a negotiated price for night in; not too many. Paid 500 to 600 Euro. Many more girls would be willing to go to your room for a grand for a day but to me that is a waste of money. As such, with a single girl in a 12 hour span in your room, might have a maximum of 2 or 3 finishes. I felt like I ended up talking more than screwing, which is not an optimal trade. Also, I have not done this in quite a while; the last one might be in 2015 or 2016. I wonder if the prices for this sort of thing have increased. Most likely they did.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2555074]Thick thighs also do not appeal to me. I like a narrow waist with a plump round butt. Also a very pretty face and attractive hairstyles. But no thunder thighs! Although, my taste in thighs might still be larger than yours since I don't typically like "bird legs" either[/QUOTE]Amen.
Girls in FKKs are typically a bit on the bony ass side, small waist round ass can get me to a room in a heartbeat. But you don't see that often in Germany.
Never been to Brazil, but done a fair few brazilian girls in portugal. Mostly great GFE and good experiences.
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Pretty Much Only Better
[QUOTE=MrHo;2555107]Scandallo is in Sao paolo right? So it is normal disco where all girls inside can be taken to room? And 150 US dollar for girl and 50 us dollar for room can get you one hour session?[/QUOTE]Yeah not so much a disco as a nightclub with multiple bars and a nice restaurant and outdoor patio. It's super luxe. You can check it out here. The pics are interactive and U can look around the place. It's well done.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
But yeah $200 should get you a girl and a room. Plan on another $100 for drinks and entry. On week nights (busier than weekends because So Paulo is a business city.) there will be 150+ girls there pre Covid. All sevens and up. They are independents and semi pro s price could vary depending on girl. But $150 will def get you just about anyone.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2555321]Yeah not so much a disco as a nightclub with multiple bars and a nice restaurant and outdoor patio. It's super luxe. You can check it out here. The pics are interactive and U can look around the place. It's well done.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
But yeah $200 should get you a girl and a room. Plan on another $100 for drinks and entry. On week nights (busier than weekends because So Paulo is a business city.) there will be 150+ girls there pre Covid. All sevens and up. They are independents and semi pro s price could vary depending on girl. But $150 will def get you just about anyone.[/QUOTE]For how long though? Is it one hour or two hours or three hours for 150 usd? Up to girls maybe as it sound like more liberal system, but how long usually for 150 usd or 200 usd?
150 plus girls are a lot, but given the covid situation in Brazil now. Lets see when they re open and how many of them survive out of this disaster!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2555321]Yeah not so much a disco as a nightclub with multiple bars and a nice restaurant and outdoor patio. It's super luxe. You can check it out here. The pics are interactive and U can look around the place. It's well done.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
But yeah $200 should get you a girl and a room. Plan on another $100 for drinks and entry. On week nights (busier than weekends because So Paulo is a business city.) there will be 150+ girls there pre Covid. All sevens and up. They are independents and semi pro s price could vary depending on girl. But $150 will def get you just about anyone.[/QUOTE]And the price is all-inclusive too, meaning no upselling to do this, that, and the other. You just need to know what's on the girl's menu for her price. Some will do anal for $150 to $200, and some won't no matter what. I find that most Brazilian girls are ready to DFK at no extra charge, and "couch play" before going to the room is still very much alive in Brazil, especially in the termas of Rio de Janeiro.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2555321]Yeah not so much a disco as a nightclub with multiple bars and a nice restaurant and outdoor patio. It's super luxe. You can check it out here. The pics are interactive and U can look around the place. It's well done.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
But yeah $200 should get you a girl and a room. Plan on another $100 for drinks and entry. On week nights (busier than weekends because So Paulo is a business city.) there will be 150+ girls there pre Covid. All sevens and up. They are independents and semi pro s price could vary depending on girl. But $150 will def get you just about anyone.[/QUOTE]So are your quoted prices for when the real was closer to 4:1 USD? It got close to 6:1 recently. So maybe even less with the current exchange rates?
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2555309]Amen.
Girls in FKKs are typically a bit on the bony ass side, small waist round ass can get me to a room in a heartbeat. But you don't see that often in Germany.
Never been to Brazil, but done a fair few brazilian girls in portugal. Mostly great GFE and good experiences.[/QUOTE]Got some impressive tight waist / very round ass ratio Romanians at World or Denisa at Amesia. Most of German WGs can t compete with Romanians for this ratio, many Germans with a bit flat ass and not so tight waist. Nothing about mutant nor Bolsonaro, but don t plan to go for Brazilian girls, not even in Spain where they are numerous.
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Last year, I jokingly said, we will be saying in summer 2021 that we will be in FKK land in 2022, but hey, I must say that we will be in FKK land in 2022 LOL! Realistically speaking, I think it is not likely that FKK will be properly open this year, if FKK do open during this summer, it will be with so much restrictions that it is not really worth going! So we will be back to norm in summer 2022 in FKK land! 2 years of mongering into the drain LOL!
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2555070]Violent crime may be higher too due to economic fallout from the pandemic!
To Cane's credit, he is very transparent about what he likes. I assume one of the selling points of Brazil for him is the availability and price point for anal sex. Also the Cane posts photos of the WGs he finds most attractive, so we can judge for ourselves how much overlap in optical tastes we have. Lower bottom heavy, thick thighs and ass do not appeal to me. That said, many experienced mongers have told me that the scene in Brazil is less transactional. That can be attributed to the "passion" of the garotas. But if you come from first world country, you have much more spending power than the locals so booking a WG for overnight is much more affordable for us, and automatically makes us a whale to the WG.
I went to one terma / boate in Sao Paulo, three in Rio. This was 2016.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by less transactional?
Despite I don't see Brasil as a travel option for a year or maybe two, I really enjoy reading comparisons like this. Going to beach with the girl that you pay for in the morning free. These are things that we look for in Europe. So I understand your point about their looks and I mostly agree but it looks like their passion compensates. What about hygiene? Do they smell bad? Or get shower frequently?
[QUOTE=Adindas;2555176]I am considering Ukraine as well. When you make a contact with a local guy to arrange a meeting with you how much did you pay? I think it does not make sense if you pay them daily it should be per successful meeting arrangement. Also just be aware of them to make suggestion as they may get commission.
How did you get a local contact??[/QUOTE]I just talked to a girl from Odessa. She says you will find no difference here from 2 years ago that you were here. So only rule is to wear a mask when you are entering a building. I just called Skyup Airlines. (Check their website for cheap tickets to Odessa) and they said it is impossible to change my flight ticket. LOcked down here for another two weeks and than head to heaven. That is how I feel. My only concern was weather till the end of June weather will be tricky in all East Europe. I mean open air clubs will be closed. It can be rainy. And you cant go to beach and swim. Or maybe if you go you wont find many people. This is another advantage of Brasil. I guess weather is available mostly throughout the year. Anyone here has been in both Odessa and Sochi? If I wouldn't have visa problem I could try it.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2555324]For how long though? Is it one hour or two hours or three hours for 150 usd? Up to girls maybe as it sound like more liberal system, but how long usually for 150 usd or 200 usd?
150 plus girls are a lot, but given the covid situation in Brazil now. Lets see when they re open and how many of them survive out of this disaster![/QUOTE]On price yes the prices are per hour. Both the girl and the hotel are per hour. You could prob negotiate the girl longer for same price. But hotel charges by hour. And as Cane says DFK só standard — in fact I've never met a Brasileira who didn't consider sex is not sex without DFK.
On the Real, yes my prices were at 4:1. You can surely get a great girl at around $100 USD these days. And remember you can get a great girl without the Scandallo experience for much less. I fucked a hot Clinica girl for 30 minutes with covered BJ for $30. Smoking body. 6-7 face. Would be $20 ish at today's exchange rates. Honestly the cheapest sex I've ever had even at the old rates.
What Cane means by less transactional is that Brasileiras are unique in their passion. When they are with you she is your girlfriend plain and simple. Especially Boate girls who tend to be amateur or semi-pro, maybe seeing one or two guys a night.
Yes you end up paying. But you have drinks. You dance. You make out. Maybe an hour or two — like a date with an amazing chick. There is none of this "we go room" in the first five minutes like FKK. You will never feel rushed in the bar. You will never feel rushed in the room. There is a nice restaurant at Scandallo. I've never done it but I am sure you can invite a girl to dinner and she'the go. There is no per hour charge except in the room. They seem to truly enjoy "being dated" as much a some guys (me!) enjoy doing it.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2555559]On price yes the prices are per hour. Both the girl and the hotel are per hour. You could prob negotiate the girl longer for same price. But hotel charges by hour. And as Cane says DFK s standard in fact I've never met a Brasileira who didn't consider sex is not sex without DFK.
On the Real, yes my prices were at 4:1. You can surely get a great girl at around $100 USD these days. And remember you can get a great girl without the Scandallo experience for much less. I fucked a hot Clinica girl for 30 minutes with covered BJ for $30. Smoking body. 6-7 face. Would be $20 ish at today's exchange rates. Honestly the cheapest sex I've ever had even at the old rates.
What Cane means by less transactional is that Brasileiras are unique in their passion. When they are with you she is your girlfriend plain and simple. Especially Boate girls who tend to be amateur or semi-pro, maybe seeing one or two guys a night.
Yes you end up paying. But you have drinks. You dance. You make out. Maybe an hour or two like a date with an amazing chick. There is none of this "we go room" in the first five minutes like FKK. You will never feel rushed in the bar. You will never feel rushed in the room. There is a nice restaurant at Scandallo. I've never done it but I am sure you can invite a girl to dinner and she'the go. There is no per hour charge except in the room. They seem to truly enjoy "being dated" as much a some guys (me!) enjoy doing it.[/QUOTE]Are there Romanians or Slavians in your boate? Or only Brazilian Latinas?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2555419]Last year, I jokingly said, we will be saying in summer 2021 that we will be in FKK land in 2022, but hey, I must say that we will be in FKK land in 2022 LOL! Realistically speaking, I think it is not likely that FKK will be properly open this year, if FKK do open during this summer, it will be with so much restrictions that it is not really worth going! So we will be back to norm in summer 2022 in FKK land! 2 years of mongering into the drain LOL![/QUOTE]"Platoon" 1986.
CHRIS.
32.332 days.
CRAWFORD.
(groans).
Oh man! Sorry about that. I can't even remember when.
I was 332. You got to count backwards like you got 40.
Days in. Think positive.
Ho my Bro, You've got to think positive here my man. Oktoberfest might be kaputt again this year, but FKK has got to be open again around the same time. And if not, there's always die Schweiz / Globe / Cleo / Zeus etc.
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100% Brasileira
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2555562]Are there Romanians or Slavians in your boate? Or only Brazilian Latinas?[/QUOTE]All the girls are Brasileiras (Brazilian women). And most speak only Portuguese. If you are willing to learn a little it's way more fun, but you can get by with Google translate if need be.
This FR from Oct 2019 may give more of a flavor for everyone who is curious. Plus Andressa is the most complete girl I have ever been with worldwide. 9. 5 looks 9. 5 body 9. 5 attitude 9. 5 skills. The real deal unicorn. Like many girls she speaks no English. But my Brazilian Portuguese has gotten pretty good - and this is my first date ever, exclusively in Portuguese. That was awesome all by itself. One of the best dates of my life. Read on...
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So it's the very last night of my trip and where else would I choose to go but Scandallo? I was drag ass tired and considered not going. What a mistake that would have been. So, professional that I am, I powered thru.
I roll up around 11 PM and it's quite packed like one would expect. First I spend a bit of time on the patio. It's more relaxed out there, before the crush of the club. A few pretty girls that are maybes but no one lights me up.
I decide to wade into the thick of it, which is the main area with the band and grab my second drink. And it's packed. Pretty much have to turn sideways to wend your way thru the crowd. I can't really estimate but surely over 100 girls just in that part, maybe 150? It is a buffet that is unequalled worldwide in my opinion.
I have a certain type and it's a very narrow window. So out of the 150 I will probably find 5 or less that are up my alley even tho they are all pretty in their own way. At some point Julliana from last week appears. She is a sweet girl and pretty and I would repeat under other circumstances. But not with such a target rich environment. So I give her a kiss and move on (later I find out she was pissed. But hey.).
I find one of the very best places to do the girl-buffet is up near the stage to the right. You can stand on the little step there and for some reason a lot of the ladies have a loop that goes right by there. But bear in mind others never leave the back of the room so you need to work both.
While the ladies are on parade there are one or two who catch my eye and I file them for future reference. One particular beauty is wearing a floral print top and matching wrap-around skirt. She has lovely dark eyes and long black hair. Tawny skin. Just my type. We make brief but meaningful eye contact.
This reminds me, it is very interesting how the game is played:
1 Eye contact and quick eye aversion. One of the parties is not interested. Move on.
2 Brief eye contact - 2-3 seconds. Dig you let's talk later.
3 Strong sustained eye contact. Let's talk right now baby.
The irony with number 2 is if you are careful not to let it go to defcon 3 then you only get a brief look at your girl. My tropical girl gets eye contact level 2 - I need further confirmation and file her for later.
Later when I am surveying from the back of the room, I notice that tropical-girl is next to me. I do another quick meeting of the eyes and then drop after a couple seconds. As I turn away, it hits me she is the one. So I reengage and turn towards her and engage her in my broken Portugus. (In retrospect I realize that she is not next to me by accident. She had marked me also after the first gaze and sought me out. Well good for her because she got it right!
Wow fuck this girl is a real doll. We chat briefly but it's very loud in the club. So we adjourn to the couches in the hall. I'd never really noticed that there are nice couches lining the hall between the restaurant and the club. What a great place to get to know each other. And we do. She's got an architectural degree and hopes to practice soon. She says she loves Scandallo because it's so classy and I agree.
God she is beautiful and I need to move this to the next level but don't want to do a room and be done. So I ask if she wants a drink and does she like dancing. Sim and sim! (All discussion is Portugus. She knows no English.).
So we head back to the main part of the club. She is very girlfriendy, leading me by the hand. We get her a drink and find a section in the middle where there are some tables that create sufficient dancing space. So we put our drinks here and start some dancing. Well not really. More like hips to hips swaying regardless of the beat. And some grinding and gyrating.
The dancing is very sexy and intimate. One of the things that melts my soul is when a girl looks deep into my eyes. Not enough of this so far this trip including my spectacular BA girlfriend. So when Andressa concentrates those liquid browns on mine it is delicious. We lean in and kiss a little. Light stuff at first. A little tongue mixed in as things progress. I honestly enjoy this as much as the room. I did it with Josy for an hour or so last week and loved it. With Andressa it is not the full on tongue tangled mackin like Josy, but very pleasant. And the balance will tip toward Andressa In the room, where she is a goddess.
After 20 minutes or it could be a half hour of dance-flirting I think we were both ready for the room. We do it via Google translate. She initiates with "What do you like to do during sex". Nice. I like the directness. "I like blowjob without condom. And kissing in missionary". Hoping just for an OK, I instead get a surprising "I love BJ without condom. " Which clearly is no lie we discover later.
The room is down the elevator and back up the stairs. R200 at the counter. Again led by the hand, we find our room.
Standing by the bed she faces me and does the full on liquid brown eyes and we kiss a bit. She then turns around and I untie her top. This BFGF part is very sexy and I love when girls do it. It's the first exposure to her tits and they are spectacular BeeCups. Super fine. We get her skirt off as well and then she undoes my buttons and belt. I love being undressed and she is very sexy doing it.
After showers she puts me on my back, straddles me, and sexily crawls up me till we are face to face and plants a strong kiss on me. Love kissing her. She lies fully on top of me, naked junk to lady parts. Gets me rather hard just moving our hips.
Then like a sexy cat she crawls back down and takes me in her mouth, never breaking eye contact. And she is VERY good downstairs. Top one or two of the trip. Lots of licking while giving the doe eyes. Plenty of BLS. A nice buffet of blowjob. Fortunately her being the tenth (ish) fuck of the trip I have plenty of stamina and don't threaten a stack-blowing despite her skills.
Now it's her turn as I turn her on her back. I start by just kissing her deeply but then work down to those spectacular tits. She doesn't get the mega hard nipples like Jana the prior night but she seems to respond in a basic way. Now it's time to move on down.
I take my time going there hoping to get her worked up. When I reach the goal I start some really good tongue work. Her clit is a bit covered so I push up the surrounding flesh to get better access (learned this recently). But despite this, the response is pretty demure. At five or so minutes in, I think she is bored and maybe I should stop. But I do something right and get a little breath intake and head grab. So I keep at it. Sure enough she is just a super slow build.
I spend quite some time working on her as she slow-builds. The magic ticket tho is when I work my index finger inside and curl it back to her Gspot. Using both tongue and fingers is getting her super hot and bothered. I start to feel a small wave and then a huge bucking wave of pussy clamps. Don't know that I've felt that strong a reaction inside a pussy ever before. Made me feel great that I could get her off like that.
Afterwards she just lies fully spent just staring up at me with something like admiration or gratitude. I will literally never forget the look on her face. It is embedded in my psyche. This was no act. She is like a limp wet fish so completely satisfied. But she wants to reciprocate so does a bit more BJ then she grabs the condom and starts riding cowgirl. What a sight! Perfect tits pressed together. Sometimes she'll throw her head back and put her arms back and lean back, just letting go. Fuck she is a stunner -- like a 9. 5.
She switches to RCG which I don't usually prefer but she does a great job. After a while I move her to her back and plunge into Mish. This is really really good. Lots of Mish kissing but she seems to like it best when she buried her face in my neck and wraps her legs strong around me. This is so fine I think I may cum in Mish which I love. But it fades.
In the end, we roll over and lose the condom and she works me by mouth. She has to use every trick in the book and is down at least another ten minutes maybe more. Spectacular climax with ten minutes left on the room.
So we shower, I get her number (ALWAYS do this with Brasileiras) and later get some model-level pics the next day via WhatsApp. Wow what a girl!