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[QUOTE=Uke Boy]Mark,
Forgive me for such skepticism but as your first post on ISG, your loud endorsement of GIA is highly suspicious. Could it be that you work for GIA?
The reason I say this is that you have not said anything even in this post about individual ladies you have met with, no critical or vital details other than that GIA is "honest and serious." We have nothing from you prior to this with which to judge this joyous pronouncement of yours.
Let's talk about GIA being honest. Why do they have a two tier price structure, one for locals and one for foreigners? That is inherently DISHONEST!
In addition, while photos of the ladies are "actual" they are very photoshopped. The photos are much better than the ladies in real life. Is that honest? We can argue about this one but it does fall on the dishonest side most of the time.
I agree that they are serious. They seriously want your money.
That all being said, GIA is actually the best last resort of anyone who has not had any luck in freebies or bad experiences elsewhere in town. You see what you will get (more or less) for a more or less "acceptable" price and you should more or less experience a good time.
As for you Mark, I think Victoria2005 in the Moscow forum may want to hire you to shill for her agency. Send her an email.[/QUOTE]By the way - I received their price list two days ago - the prices are now the same
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[QUOTE=Uke Boy]Mark,
Forgive me for such skepticism but as your first post on ISG, your loud endorsement of GIA is highly suspicious. Could it be that you work for GIA?
The reason I say this is that you have not said anything even in this post about individual ladies you have met with, no critical or vital details other than that GIA is "honest and serious." We have nothing from you prior to this with which to judge this joyous pronouncement of yours.
Let's talk about GIA being honest. Why do they have a two tier price structure, one for locals and one for foreigners? That is inherently DISHONEST!
In addition, while photos of the ladies are "actual" they are very photoshopped. The photos are much better than the ladies in real life. Is that honest? We can argue about this one but it does fall on the dishonest side most of the time.
I agree that they are serious. They seriously want your money.
That all being said, GIA is actually the best last resort of anyone who has not had any luck in freebies or bad experiences elsewhere in town. You see what you will get (more or less) for a more or less "acceptable" price and you should more or less experience a good time.
As for you Mark, I think Victoria2005 in the Moscow forum may want to hire you to shill for her agency. Send her an email.[/QUOTE]By the way I received their pricelists two days ago - in both price list the price is the same, so you are wrong a bit.
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[QUOTE=Delgado]Uke Boy, price discrimination has absolutely nothing to do with dishonesty. What they are doing is simply profit maximization. You see it all over the place, in just about any market with imperfect information or markets where arbitrage (re-selling) is not possible. From Gia´s point of view, they perceive two different market segments, the market for foreign customers and the market for russian speakers and they are simply maximizing their profit in each market. You could just as well call your local movie theater dishonest for selling exactly the same ticket at a discount for students or the airline that charged you a much higher price as a business traveler for basically the same service or the car manufacturer selling exactly the same model you bought at home for a 30 percent discount in southern europe, the list goes on and on, it´s a standard and routine pricing technique.[/QUOTE]I agree with Delgado - when I asked them in my letter about increasing prices the manager wrote me that it's because petrol was increased in price in Ukraine and taxi is more expensive for gals. Well, on the other hand I really heard they have something not very good with prices on oil products.
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[QUOTE=Ash1001]I'm looking for a strip/lap dance club where basically after a couple of dances, tips and drinks you can negotiate to take the girl home. I'd expect it to be a little more pricey than RP but the idea of a girl dancing for you then coming home with you really turns me on :)
I've heard that Taboo in the Premier Palace hotel is very good. But you're probably talking serious $ there.
Doc Skank - any suggestions here? I know Moscow is *the* place for that sort of thing, but I can't believe Kiev doesn't have something too.[/QUOTE]People, please explain me about what RP is! I keep reading the topic but I can't get a clue about it :(
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[QUOTE=Fido Dido]
I did hear on the news recently that Kiev is the 21th most expensive city in the world. No wonder if visitors start spending money like water.
Maybe some are willing to afford it, but it spoils the market for others.[/QUOTE]Fido Dido,
I've heard the same about Kiev, Moscow etc. But they say it's not because all the peopole in Kiev are extremely rich, but because realty is very much expensive (the same as in Moscow), but in Kiev I can drink a cup of coffee for less that $8 as in Moscow!! :)
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[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello all,
Anyone able to check out these guys?
[url]http://www.intimkiev.com[/url]
The menu list is very extensive for some of the girls.
if you press 100% photo then thats the list of girls with "genuine" photos, verified so to speak. The link for that is
[url]http://www.intimkiev.com/index.php?type=100[/url]
Otherwise I'll do it in a few weeks when in Kiev.
IL[/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust all the pictures. I'm new at this forum but not new at the website surfing escort websites. I saw a lot of pictures which I've seen much earlier on another websites and girls each time have new name but picture is still the same. Can you believe that a girl called Rita on the first page who look at 10+ would charge $70 for an hour?! Come on, cheap price is very suspicious and directly means that completely another face (and body) will come to you after your order
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intimkiev
Hello
I heard of these guys through [url]www.singles.ru[/url]
Quite a high percentage of the "profiles" there are in fact agencies although many are independents.......excluding the "genuine" profiles of course.
After a while one recognises the photos there from the various "agency websites" I listed a while back. You'll also get the standard "All details on telephone call 555 etc" replies, which confirms their agency status.
In this instance I received a website address in the reply.
I wrote to them asking them to confirm the accuracy of both the photos listed and the services listed because as I already said the list is "extensive".
I received a reply giving the link to the "genuine" photos and a yes to my question about the services.
I'll be happy to check them out in a few weeks, however, my no.1 choice is no longer listed and this girl did "EVERYTHING".
As to the follow up poster, I kept my powder dry considering my recent critical reports, but my view is that a 2 poster jumping in like that is a fairly obvious ad campaign.
IL
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Chrisforsex and RP
I share the thoughts of Irish Lad about the follow up poster (Nitro…..)!
RP = River Palace. This is a boat on the Dnepro River. On this boat you’ll find a nightclub, casino, restaurant and Ice salon. The night club is visited by many pro’s and rarely some non-pro’s.
The advantage of this place in comparison with a internetsite is that u can be 100% sure you get a wysiwyg (some old lotus123 term ;-)…..). The disadvantage (in my opinion) is that the prices are to high. And personally I don’t like negotiation for a price like being on a market buying some stuff. And as you can read on this forum many people still got f…..d up after negotiation because the price they paid was still 2 times higher then the normal p4p price in Kiev.
And speaking about pricing, I think $ 70,- for an hour is a normal price in Kiev! It is NOT cheap! And for this price you can get a 10! Of course everyone has his own opinion about how a 10 must look like :-)). Also the provided service should be taken into consideration. But for $ 70,- to $ 80,- you should be able to get a full-option 10 for one hour.
And I would always consider taking a girl for 2 hours or more, or for the whole night. One hour is three times nothing ;-)
The price for 2 hours is between $ 100,- and $ 150,- maximum. Between $ 80,- and $ 100,- is also possible but then it is rarely to get a 9 or a 10. Nighters are available between $ 200,- and $ 300,- (from 21:00 to 09:00 or 22:00 to 10:00)
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Hi!
Very interesting thoughts about me. This is very pleasantly. I just can't understand what is the advantages to me making ad campaign to this site? I just react to the post about the site which I know and where I spent my free time, I just want to say that there are recommended girls on this site that are real as in theirs info, nothing else. I agree that if I was a starter of topic about this site and have on my count only 1 post - it should be an ad campaign, but it is not my mention of this site, it is was first mentioned by IL.
OK, this is not so important for me, bye!
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Bye!
Hello and Bye!
I’ll try them out to put this matter to rest.
[url]http://www.intimkiev.com/show.php?id=391[/url]
I’ll see her in 2 weeks and report.
IL
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Don't waste time
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello and Bye!
I’ll try them out to put this matter to rest.
[url]http://www.intimkiev.com/show.php?id=391[/url]
I’ll see her in 2 weeks and report.
IL[/QUOTE]When I called [url]www.sexkiev.ru[/url], the operator said this site was old and told me try [url]www.kievintim.com[/url] . I think [url]www.intimkiev.com[/url] is Russian version of [url]www.kievintim.com[/url]
Anyway, I ordered one girl in photos on the web, and the operator said she would be my apartment in 40 minutes. After 30 minutes, a girl showed up, but totally different from the photos. Only hair color was same. I ordered Yana, but she said Vanessa.
I decided to try her for 1 hour, and paid $60. No kissing, no OWO, nothing GFE. I asked her French kiss. She said she would do if I extended one more hour. So I paid $40 more.
After kissing, she asked me $40 more if I wanted OWO. So I told her I would give after, but she insisted before.
Can you imagine how horrible to go to the wallet stopping shagging. Totally unGFE.
I tried another fake photos agency. Don’t even think about trying these sites.
[url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.kiev-x.com/[/url]
These two sites are same agency.
I picked a girl, Evgenia, and called the number on her page.
[url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=122[/url]
[url]http://www.kiev-x.com/girls/119/[/url]
A English speaking girl answered phone, and she said she is Evgenia. I asked to come to my apartment, but she told me she had very good apartment to come.
Her address was Dneprovskaya Naberejnaya 11A.
I took a taxi and went to her apartment. She was totally different from her photos. Only hair color was same.
Guys, don’t waste time. Stick the Gia, the only agency using real photos. Service is also guaranteed.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
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Kiev escort agencies
Hello all,
Thank you very much Ballentine30. Now we’re starting to get some quality feedback that will benefit us all.
I’ve requested admin to start a new thread entitled “Kiev escort agencies”.
So far we have current info on
[url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/[/url]
AKA Kiev-x—bad report
[url]http://www.kiev-x.com/[/url]
Bad report from Ballentine30
[url]http://www.sexkiev.ru/[/url]
Bad report from Ballentine30.
Bad report from Irish Lad
Here are some other agencies with little or no recent information.
[url]http://www.putany.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.kievdosug.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.kievescortangels.com/[/url]
[url]http://kievbeauties.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.prostitutki.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.ero.kiev.ua/[/url]
And a recent “profile” from destiny.com
[url]http://www.vipsex.com.ua/[/url]
Any recent experiences on any of the above would be greatly appreciated. I’ll review 1 or 2 of them not already covered by the time I hit Kiev next week.
IL
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Knowing the way business is done in Kiev in general I would be very hard put to be trusting of any online or telephone agency.
If you are an average bloke looking for a girl go to one of the many apartment line ups in Kiev - Call ahead to make sure they have a good selection and then pick the girl(s) you want.
If you are a high roller looking for some guaranteed model p4p talent go to Arena, the bar at Premier Palace or the Millennium strip club in the Dnipro Hotel.
To all of those in Kiev now, I am very jealous. I won't be back for a few months. ;)
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[QUOTE=Ballentine30]When I called [url]www.sexkiev.ru[/url], the operator said this site was old and told me try [url]www.kievintim.com[/url] . I think [url]www.intimkiev.com[/url] is Russian version of [url]www.kievintim.com[/url]
Anyway, I ordered one girl in photos on the web, and the operator said she would be my apartment in 40 minutes. After 30 minutes, a girl showed up, but totally different from the photos. Only hair color was same. I ordered Yana, but she said Vanessa.
I decided to try her for 1 hour, and paid $60. No kissing, no OWO, nothing GFE. I asked her French kiss. She said she would do if I extended one more hour. So I paid $40 more.
After kissing, she asked me $40 more if I wanted OWO. So I told her I would give after, but she insisted before.
Can you imagine how horrible to go to the wallet stopping shagging. Totally unGFE.
I tried another fake photos agency. Don’t even think about trying these sites.
[url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.kiev-x.com/[/url]
These two sites are same agency.
I picked a girl, Evgenia, and called the number on her page.
[url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=122[/url]
[url]http://www.kiev-x.com/girls/119/[/url]
A English speaking girl answered phone, and she said she is Evgenia. I asked to come to my apartment, but she told me she had very good apartment to come.
Her address was Dneprovskaya Naberejnaya 11A.
I took a taxi and went to her apartment. She was totally different from her photos. Only hair color was same.
Guys, don’t waste time. Stick the Gia, the only agency using real photos. Service is also guaranteed.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]
And after all this guys you negate gia.?! $40 for kissing and $40 for OWO - what madness??!! Ballentine30, the girl you've met must be very rich for asking big money and doing nothing ;)
To Cruiser D: I prefer to call gia and know that guys on the phone will give me a good advise and I meet a girl from the picture but not some another ugly thing. Gia is my #1 choice.
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Options in Kiev
Hello all
[QUOTE=Chrisforsex]And after all this guys you negate gia.?! $40 for kissing and $40 for OWO - what madness??!! Ballentine30, the girl you've met must be very rich for asking big money and doing nothing ;)
To Cruiser D: I prefer to call gia and know that guys on the phone will give me a good advise and I meet a girl from the picture but not some another ugly thing. Gia is my #1 choice.[/QUOTE]
Not every one “negates” GIA. However, as their prices start at $100 for an hour, and increase with extras like OWO, and exceed $300 for an all nighter, I for one believe there is merit in examining some of the many other options available.
It may well be that Cruiser D is correct and that none of the online agencies can provide the level of service expected by us. However, as discussed before, many independents advertise through sites like destiny and perhaps the reality is that this route is the future.
My recent nights with Jennifer from destiny were cheaper, more intimate and better fun than any of my experiences with GIA at today’s prices. Some fellow punters here that met her following my report have since agreed with my opinion and wrote their own glowing reports too. A similar story applies to both Ella in Odessa and Lana in Kiev.
I must also mention that all 3 girls provide a fuller menu than any of the girls in GIA.
I list below a link to 1 girl who provides OWO and Greek overnight for $200. In my opinion she is as attractive as any of the GIA girls. I have yet to meet her, but I will, and I’ll report my findings, unless someone else feels the need to do so first.
[url]http://www.singles.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=50462111[/url]
Indeed, after having done some some research, I could now list in excess of 50 independents of similar quality and price range. I obviously can’t “field test” them all but I am sure that from those that I do, I could compile a database that would beat hands down the likes of GIA, the #1 agency in Kiev by some accounts.
As also mentioned by Cruiser D, there is another option with apartment line-ups. I haven’t tried this option so I can’t offer any input on this matter……….yet.
Other options are the semi-pros in many of the clubs and bars besides the usual haunts. In these circumstances you get more than just a photo to choose from.
Anyways, to finish, I accept in principle Chrisforsex’s comment but I know there is better out there and as before, I’ll find it.
IL