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[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1821111]I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.
There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.
Absolutely never again.[/QUOTE]Haha, why would you go there on that night?
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[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1821111]I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.
There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.
Absolutely never again.[/QUOTE]Join the club. I was at Flamingo Island's for their New Year's Eve party, 100 euro entry and a very poor girls to males ratio, the worst ever I've had in that club. The period right after Christmas stinks.
The fact that so many girls can afford not to work is indicative that they're not badly in need of money.
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New Year's Eve
I would only consider New Year's Eve if I had a girl pre-booked for that evening. But that is difficult as most girls are either at home in Romania or if not at home, then spending the night with their loverboy. So better to stay home, wank off, and go to bed early on this night.
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Finger in pussy is rejected due to fear of infection. If they ask for an extra for FIP, it means the girl is willing to take on a risk to make some money, or never believed it was a risk, but wants to use that excuse to make money.
Not sure why they charge for DATY. If they refuse it, in that time, they must do something else, such as blow job or fucking, which I am assuming is more taxing on their bodies or takes more effort. There is no particular health risk from DATY, any more than what she is already doing.
My only explanation is that a lot of men at the clubs like DATY, and some want it badly enough to pay for it. Girls know it, so they demand an extra for it, even if they are actually indifferent to DATY (or even prefer it to other things like fucking / blow job, due to being easier on their bodies).
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1820514]Yes, I can't imagine DATY being a difficult service. What I think is that there are guys that take importance of that service aspect (same for kissing), that they can try to test out if the punter will pay extra for it. Some services are pretty clearly defined in the standard service like suck and fuck, DATY and kissing ain't. Same goes for girls that tells guys extra for fingering.[/QUOTE]
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There is no extra charge for DATY. It is a standard service included in the 50 E fee. Even the front desk at Palace will support you if a girl demands extra for DATY (unless you are a fool and actually have agreed to pay extra for that service).
Actually, there is no extra charge for FIP either. Either the girl provides that service or she does not. It's that simple. Not an important service to me though.
Standard service includes BBBJ, DATY, kissing and covered MPOS FS as a minimum. You are not supposed to ask for these services, but to expect them. Without extra charge. It's the German way. Ordnung muss sein.
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Shark, you are misinterpreting what's being discussed. We are not saying those services are extras. We are talking about why girls would refuse those services, and try to charge extras for them. Don't read too much into it. LOL.
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[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1821111]I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.
There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.
Absolutely never again.[/QUOTE]Strange time to choose to attend or to try. I would not. Obviously you saw the very worst of the club.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1821259]There is no extra charge for DATY. It is a standard service included in the 50 E fee. Even the front desk at Palace will support you if a girl demands extra for DATY (unless you are a fool and actually have agreed to pay extra for that service).
[/QUOTE]Can't agree with you here. You can't force girls to allow DATY, kissing, fingering etc. They are expected to at least provide fuck and suck for the basic 50. Although DATY is normally a non charge item, it is well known that girls can attempt to extract extra fees for anything beyond the basic suck and fuck. Fortunately all my regular girls do not charge for non standard things allowed like kissing, DATY, etc. Not all girls allow fingers as it is considered much more risky. Some allow it with a condom. No extra charges maybe because they are expecting to get 100 for an hour, or maybe even more if I take more than 1 hour.
I think it would be absurd to take a girl to the front desk to complain she wanted 50 extra for DATY. I would just accept there would be no DATY. DATY is only fun, if she likes it or appears to like it. I am there for a GFE and fun not for a battle. Either she likes it or we don't do it.
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Daty
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1821447]Can't agree with you here. You can't force girls to allow DATY, kissing, fingering etc. They are expected to at least provide fuck and suck for the basic 50. Although DATY is normally a non charge item, it is well known that girls can attempt to extract extra fees for anything beyond the basic suck and fuck. Fortunately all my regular girls do not charge for non standard things allowed like kissing, DATY, etc. Not all girls allow fingers as it is considered much more risky. Some allow it with a condom. No extra charges maybe because they are expecting to get 100 for an hour, or maybe even more if I take more than 1 hour.
I think it would be absurd to take a girl to the front desk to complain she wanted 50 extra for DATY. I would just accept there would be no DATY. DATY is only fun, if she likes it or appears to like it. I am there for a GFE and fun not for a battle. Either she likes it or we don't do it.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what the strict rule is, but the only time ever girls have attempted to charge me extra for DATY is at Palace, which is notorious for being a sharky place. It has never happened anywhere else, I agree with you that the girls have the right not to allow it and they either allow it or not, but no girl outside of palace has ever tried to charge me for it.
Is it really a chargeable item?
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It's not. It is either offered / accepted or not, but it is not an extra. Same as DFK and IMHO fingering. German Sandra at Paradise Leinfelden once claimed that fingering is an official extra for 25€ at Paradise.
HB.
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[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1821111]I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.
There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.
Absolutely never again.[/QUOTE]Last year, there were a few pretty girls like Roxana, but some girls, I don't know for Roxana, charged 100 for 30 mn. This year, Samya was also a gay club. At Aca, there was pretty brunette Emily. Ro.
Sylvester or 1st January or 24 or Christmas are not best days for FKK. WGirls can take private time for themselves on these days, as said me Nicole at Harmony, I answered her: yes, better than being fucked all night by drunk men, for new year or for Christmas present.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1821484]It's not. It is either offered / accepted or not, but it is not an extra. Same as DFK and IMHO fingering. German Sandra at Paradise Leinfelden once claimed that fingering is an official extra for 25 at Paradise.[/QUOTE]Maybe in theory but even that is doubtful in consideration of the self-employment of the club girls. And reality at the Frankfurt big5 clubs is different. Maybe 50% of all girls at these clubs provide DFK or DATY or BL or or or only for extra sometimes long time booking is enough.
Standard is suck & fuck and that's it.
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Extra Charges
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1821484]It's not. It is either offered / accepted or not, but it is not an extra. Same as DFK and IMHO fingering. German Sandra at Paradise Leinfelden once claimed that fingering is an official extra for 25 at Paradise.
HB.[/QUOTE]I think that FKKs are the only mongering establishments where you can be asked to pay extra for COB, FIP, DATY, DFK and AR. I have done all of these in venues around the world and have not been asked to pay extra. I think its getting worse at FKKs since my last visit in 2012 from my reading of posts. I am considering a Frankfurt visit this coming summer but I had such a great time in SEA last summer that I may change my mind and go there instead. I love the ambience at FKKs in particular and being in Germany in general but I like relaxed sessions and not having to worry about potential extra charges which I had to do in my last visit that can turn out to be a deal breaker.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1821570]I think that FKKs are the only mongering establishments where you can be asked to pay extra for COB, FIP, DATY, DFK and AR.[/QUOTE]Actually in Germany the basic price or short time doesn't include all those things although some girls may choose to include them.
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DFK and DATY are only sold for extra at GT, but some German gang girls were fired. No extra for DFK, nor DATY and many girls agree for only 30 mn rooms, some for 1 hour room. Easy clients pay many extras, not all clients, and not sure they even get same services.