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Tips?
I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble :-)
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.
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[QUOTE=Mesocorny]I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble :-)
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.[/QUOTE]Are you doing more than just looking and smiling at them? Colombianas are accustomed to guys making the first move. It helps if you speak spanish. And if you don't. Then attempting to speak spanish with a dictionary will go a long way.
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[QUOTE=Mesocorny]I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble :-)
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.[/QUOTE]The first question is do you speak spanish? If you do speak spanish than it has to be something to do with your personality or approach to the girls amigo because Colombianas are extremely friendly and enjoy hanging out with spanish speaking well mannered foreigners.
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Good info
[QUOTE=JazzPlayer]It's a very easy process if you know Colombia and speak passable Spanish. It takes four total days to complete. First you have to go to DAS, go early, there is always a line. You have to have identification and you have to leave your cell phone at the guard shack.
Next you go in an receive the paperwork. They give you a check list of everything you need to do. Just follow the list and bingo you are in.
You have to have passport size photos, pay the bill at Banco de Colombia only certain banks accept the money(secret: go to the bank in Laureles next to Estadio, there is never a line) multiple copies of the documents you fill out and copies of your passport. Then you go back to DAS with all your copies and your payment receipt.
Then you have to wait at DAS for your turn, they give you a little "ficha" a poker chip with a number. The folks in DAS, there are only two clerks that deal with this, are always having a bad day. They were they only angry Colombians I ever met for 90 days in the country. Anyway they take all your paperwork, inspect your passport, take your fingerprints and photo, and then you have to come back in three days.
When you come back you don't have to wait very long at all they just take you in the back, hand stamp your passport, write on the stamp and you are on your way. One final caveat, when you get to the airport you have to pay an additional tax, not the regular exit tax but another one. It was a surprise American Air didn't know how to deal with it and it was a little scary at first, but you just have to be polite and pay the tax, I think it was 50 or 75K pesos.
It's an easy process if you follow the steps and recall it's Colombia during the steps.
Chau,
Jazz[/QUOTE]Mr. Jass,
Thanks for answering his question. I agree with what you said of the process except that on the check list I was given there was no mention that a money order was needed so when I tried to pay the fee in cash I was then told I needed a money order. This intailed another round trip taxi to a bank. All I can say is I wish I had your frame of mind in these kind of matters. For you to say this was an easy process, I would hate to see what you call a tough process. I was 6 days over my limit in Colombia and I will never deal with DAS again if I can avoid them. Like you said about the additional payment 74, 000 K at the airport after paying the 70, 100K at DAS to me was the final indignation. I go to Colombia to have fun, not be tortured and have to jump thru hoops.
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Speak Spanish?
[QUOTE=Mesocorny]I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble :-)
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.[/QUOTE]Lets C. Young, good looking, blond hair, blue eyes. You are having no luck? The only answer is you are not able to talk to these beautiful creatures.
Please do not be offended but you are asking for advice and if what you say is true than something is really wrong with what is happening to you in Colombia. Many of us old timers would love to have your advantages. I wish you good luck in the future and maybe it is just a case of bad luck and the next day you could be swimming in fine Pussy.
One question. You say the weather is cold. I have never found BAQ, MDE, Cali and CTG cold, but mostly very warm except MDE which is just perfect.
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Guys, thanks for coming back to me. I take no offense at all.
Thing is, I speak Spanish close to fluently! I've done my share of travel in South America and Cuba, and I know that Spanish is a must. I don't want to go crazy on my horn here, but I am saying it to add to the mystery: I am swimming in girls in all these others places. Regulars from the streets and discos. Hot young girls.
In Colombia? Thousands of girls looking at smiling, but not the young hotties. And if I approach looks a bit like they are afraid all the other people or friends around will think they are prepagos.
Spanish? Yes. Extensive travel experience in Latin America? Yes. Decent looking and young enough? Yes.
So I have next to know idea what gives. All I know is I fucked a fat girl with no less than three children last night, and that marked the record of the ugliest girl I have been with in Latin America.
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[QUOTE=Mesocorny]I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. Have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.[/QUOTE]While I agree with the others that being fluent or at least half-way fluent in Spanish greatly increases your chances, I feel compelled to share with you the below observation. Keep in mind that this observation applies to me, an average-looking, 40-something, gringo when in Colombia. I don't know if it applies to you or anyone else, but it certainly applies to me.
For me to be successful in having sexual encounters with non-pros in Colombia, I have to do one of the following:
1) Build a rapport, friendship, trust with her via the internet/video chat (and then phone, as she'll like the attention of me calling to let her know that I'm thinking of her) over the course of a month or two prior to meeting her in person. Each woman I've met this way already had a strong romantic interest and desire upon my arrival.
2) Be introduced by an amigo/amiga in Colombia who knows me and trusts me as being a guy who will show respect to thier amiga, prima, etc.
3) Meet a chica at the mall, working in a store, etc., and then take the time to build a rapport, establish a mutual interest, go places together (dates), etc. The old "courting" from back-in-the-day.
I've found the non-pros to follow more traditional rules-kinda like the way things were in the States prior to the sexual revolution of the 60's, etc. The chances of me picking-up a non-pro any other way in Colombia are pretty much zilch. If I pick-up a Colombiana and bang her that same day absent any of the three foregoing things happening first, then there's a 99% chance she's a pro or semi-pro.
Again, those are my observations as they pertain to me, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are commonplace for other foreigners who are just visiting or passing-through Colombia.
It can be alot of work/chase, but also provide for one hell of a sexual encounter. But then I end-up with a girlfriend who wants exclusivity. And alas, I'd rather have my freedom without drama or confrontation, so I've learned that mostly bangin' the pros and semi-pros in Colombia is the best course of action for me.
Best of luck in your adventure and encounters. Oh, and you might want to try bangin' a pro/semi-pro instead of chokin' the monkey back at the apartment, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Hioctane]. It helps if you speak spanish.
And if you don't. Then attempting to speak spanish with a dictionary will go a long way[/QUOTE]That's an understatement!
Speaking spanish is not just a help, it's almost imperative to mix with the non-pros.
If you don't, you're severely limiting yourself.
Your youth and pretty blue eyes can only get ya so far. It gets your foot in the door and then you have to be able to rap a bit.
The speaking with a dictionary, well of course it's better than nada, but truthfully, though it may be a bit humorous at first, it's very limiting and difficult to be a cool cat scurrying for words in a dictionary.
Hey, anything is possible, but to anyone that digs traveling to latin America and digs the latinas, learn the language.
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[QUOTE=Mesocorny]In Colombia? Thousands of girls looking at smiling, but not the young hotties. And if I approach looks a bit like they are afraid all the other people or friends around will think they are prepagos.[/QUOTE]Bingo!
Non-pro Colombianas (and actually, Colombianas in general) are very concerned with their reputation. If they get with a foreigner (especially one who doesn't live there, but is just visiting/tourist) on his first time hitting upon them, they look like you know what. When it comes to non-pros in Colombia, you now know the reason why I have to go through one of the 3 steps I mentioned below to have a sexual encounter with a beautiful, non-pro.
I still think you'd be better off bangin' an attractive, hot, sexy pro or semi-pro than chokin' the monkey or bangin' a gordita. You might want to give it a try!
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The obvious is that "tu no sabes mamar gallo". That's important here, beyond that, Colombians are slow AND have very high standards. But things do vary greatly from city to city. The locals all tell me Medellin is the best bet for picking up non-pros quickly. Medellin or Pereira.
My advice. Fuck the coast and stay in Medellin the last 3 weeks. Barranquilla may be OK but in Cartagena you will get NOTHING. I defend myself pretty well with the non pros here in Bogota and just got back from a real nice trip to Ibague, but I get ZIP in Cartagena.
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Yea its difficult
Keep making friends and they "say" to be patient. I dated many. The colombianas when they like you they take it slow, don't rush it. But when they are ready the go all in, and with passion. The chicks flake alot though.
Also suerte is really bad. It means fuck off go away I am better than you. You are beneath me. I mistakenly said this to a merchant trying to sell us necklaces in med. At dinner he got real pissed and went off on me. My colombian friend said, " why did you say that! " I was like oh shit I didn't know. Anyways its" buena suerte", Ave maria pues.
[QUOTE=Mesocorny]I don't get it here. Been in Colombia for 10 days and although have had 3 girls one wasn't too hot (picked up on Sexta, Cali, non-pro), the other two were girls I had known previously through colombiacupid, some online dating site.
I am attractive. Young, blond, blue eyes. I got a million looks and giggles on the streets and when I enter a bar. But I get nothing more. have now done Bogota, Ibagué and a week in Cali and apart from that one negrita in Cali (who looked hot with clothes on and not too good naked) have gotten nothing.
What's the deal here? I don't get it. I can sit at a table and exchange smiles with a beautiful 18 year old on another table and if I approach after 30 minutes of smiling she turns completely stiff and basically ignores me until I go away (usually hailing a taxi to go home to my apartment to jerk off instead)
In case it's not clear, I am talking about picking up non-pros. If I couldn't pick up a hooker I would be in serious trouble :-)
So any tips? What gives with these colombianas? I have done a shitload of countries and in many latin countries I have my calendar packed, sometimes 3-4 hot girls daily. I thought Colombia was heaven for women, but thourh there are a decent amount of good looking girls around, it seems more like hell.
It sucks. Especially since I have no less than 3 weeks left in Colombia (Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla). And I seriously feel like flying home to Europe or down to Brazil. This place is cold man. The weather AND the women. Or at least, that is my impression so far.
Was my BIG misunderstanding that I thought Colombia was gold because all you guys love the hookers? (I don't) or am I just misunderstanding how to approach and pick up regular girls here?
Suerte.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks. Great forum with such active feedback. Last night here in dull-as-hell Cali I went home early and don't know why but logged onto Livejasmin. Got to talk with a delgada calena, gave her my number holding no hopes, and what do you know she come over and fucked this afternoon. For free. nah, that's a lie, I gave her a Coke Light.
other than that, what has me puzzled about Colombia is that everyone seems to be locked up in their casas. Expect for Saturday (and friday to some extend) the streets, bars, clubs, restaurants, everything is just eeeempty.
So there aren't even anyone around to practice my game on.
I wonder around Sexta, Parque de Perro, heck saturday night I went out to famous party-suburb Menga, and met at most 5 hot girls. I go home to my studio and log on to hi5 or something like that, and there are one million calenas. Come out, man! I make a call through the list of 20+ girls whos numbers I have off some dating sites, and they all gotta study, do chores, or can't be out at night, or at day. Seems people are scared to leave their houses.
Cartagena that bad? I imagined that Cali would have about a 1000 times more action than Cartagena (being provincial, non-tourist, poorer) but there's nothing around here. So yeah, skipping Cartagena might be an idea. Gotta decide on whether to take the extra days in Medellin or Barranquilla then. Medellin scares me a bit, though, I imagine there are too many gringo mongerers there, I like the non touristy places which is why I chose to spend 10 days in Cali in the first place. Bad decision!
Guess I gotta turn to the pros then. Have no time to date for weeks or months. next time I am off to a country where the girls are promiscuous by nature and will be happy to fuck an 'exotic' different looking guy for free, like Brazil...
For now, Colombia has me puzzled.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]That's an understatement!
Speaking spanish is not just a help, it's almost imperative to mix with the non-pros.
If you don't, you're severely limiting yourself.
Your youth and pretty blue eyes can only get ya so far. It gets your foot in the door and then you have to be able to rap a bit.
The speaking with a dictionary, well of course it's better than nada, but truthfully, though it may be a bit humorous at first, it's very limiting and difficult to be a cool cat scurrying for words in a dictionary.
Hey, anything is possible, but to anyone that digs traveling to latin America and digs the latinas, learn the language.[/QUOTE]Well yes, if looks doesn't work, then some basic spanish will get your foot in the door. If you want anything meaningful, you'll need to learn spanish!
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Well here in Bogota people are genuinely THAT busy. They work and study their asses off and have real complicated schedules. So that's part of it as well. I even mentioned that on another forum. I often still bang pros because even though I have several fuckbuddies here, often I can't get an appointment with ANY of them in a typical week.
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[QUOTE=Mesocorny]Thanks. Great forum with such active feedback. Last night here in dull-as-hell Cali I went home early and don't know why but logged onto Livejasmin. Got to talk with a delgada calena, gave her my number holding no hopes, and what do you know she come over and fucked this afternoon. For free. nah, that's a lie, I gave her a Coke Light.
other than that, what has me puzzled about Colombia is that everyone seems to be locked up in their casas. Expect for Saturday (and friday to some extend) the streets, bars, clubs, restaurants, everything is just eeeempty.
So there aren't even anyone around to practice my game on.
I wonder around Sexta, Parque de Perro, heck saturday night I went out to famous party-suburb Menga, and met at most 5 hot girls. I go home to my studio and log on to hi5 or something like that, and there are one million calenas. Come out, man! I make a call through the list of 20+ girls whos numbers I have off some dating sites, and they all gotta study, do chores, or can't be out at night, or at day. Seems people are scared to leave their houses.
Cartagena that bad? I imagined that Cali would have about a 1000 times more action than Cartagena (being provincial, non-tourist, poorer) but there's nothing around here. So yeah, skipping Cartagena might be an idea. Gotta decide on whether to take the extra days in Medellin or Barranquilla then. Medellin scares me a bit, though, I imagine there are too many gringo mongerers there, I like the non touristy places which is why I chose to spend 10 days in Cali in the first place. Bad decision!
Guess I gotta turn to the pros then. Have no time to date for weeks or months. next time I am off to a country where the girls are promiscuous by nature and will be happy to fuck an 'exotic' different looking guy for free, like Brazil...
For now, Colombia has me puzzled.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Cali, but maybe it's more dangerous at night? In Medellin, I have yet to meet a girl that didn't want to go to dinner and dancing. They do flake though and are always tardy.
Medellin is more traveled, but aside from the gringo hot spots. Parque Lleras and Fase Dos. You're not going to see many gringos.