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Boxing Australia's got the best beaches in the world but I think its the Great White Sharks that keep them that way.
Boxing Rule 222,
short term you will pay much more than $500.USD for a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apt. for a month.
Mine was an unfurnished 2 bedroom apt. and I had to sign a 30 month lease to get it..... actually it's
1,100.r rent
338.25.r condo fee
68.86r IPTU Taxes
22.50.r seguro inc. ref (whatever the hell that is??)
1,529.61.r a month / 3 =$509.87.US a month.
Fartnocker, Johan's buddy was not Argentinean.
Does anyone have a internet solution when visiting Rio. I mean a place where you can take your own laptop and work. Internet cafes are fine for checking email but not for taking your own laptop.
GoRIO,
On that note, isn't fried Yuca the most amazing side dish ever? Fried Yuca, Piccanah (Spelling) Bondequeso (Cheesebread) by the ounce, and dont forget fresh Coconut water.
Many hotels will have broadband internet with the jacks in the rooms. Our hotel has it for free although its not steller service, it does work OK. I'm using it now actually.
CBGB,
That seems to be one major misconception about Latin America - Everyone thinks the food should be Mexican!
18 years ago, I was working down there and one of the other gringos on my crew was livid because he couldn't get tequila in Brasil. His comment was "what kinda selfrespecting Mexican doesn't have tequila?" - he olny lasted one hitch.
Brasillians tend to be more into sweet stuff than spicy stuff (look at all the sugar in a caipirinha).
About 2 years after the tequila guy got shipped back to Texas, I was at a bar in Fortaleza that claimed to be an "American" bar - they actually had tequila and made a damned good Margarita - my Brasillian friends were shocked that the white crystals stuck to the rim of the glass was salt - they thought it should be sugar & refused to drink their Margaritas - being the thrifty young man that I was back then, I drank all 6 of them rather than let them go to waste - they had cuba libra's (rum & coke - nice & sweet).
There are parts of Brasil that have spicier food - Salvador in particular. I've had some chicken & rice dishes there as well as a number of seafood dishes that make me sweat every time I think about them. Sorry, can't remember the names of the dishes. They were very spicy, but nothing like Mexican food - more like Jamaican or African food.
CW
Bubba Boy
Most if not all inernet cafes wil let you plug your laptop into their LAN. Just show up with your laptop and ask of if necessary insist.
I suggest that you carry your laptop in a grocery bag. A leather case would make you a traget on the street.
Thanks for the tip Sunset. I was actually thinking of doing that but a bit worried about security, not only would I have to be careful carrying it there, but would also have to be discreet within the cafe as someone will notice it and I may become a target later.
bubba,
i brought my laptop the last time i was in brazil. i stayed that princess copacabana and would walk the two blocks to tudo e facil internet cafe on miguel lemos. they have three or four desks that don't have computers on them. they are just for people who bring in laptops. since you don't log in to their timer on a resident computer. it's an honor system. at the end of the session, you just tell them how much time you used.
for security, i would just carry my laptop in a college style nylon backpack. it was the same backpack i carried everyday in rio so i never looked like i was carrying anything unusual with me. it held my camera, terma gig bag, and maps, and sometimes a laptop.
this next trip i need broadband in my room for use of a vonage phone. i've opted for an apartment rental that has high speed internet. they are rare but you can find them. if you pm me, i'll send you the contact info for the two i've found.
sterling v
Boxing rules wrote:
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ohan
I did not know Brazil was know for their food?
Well to let other mongers know it is not kown for its food.
Another note Brazil has beaches but none are world class beaches.
If you want to make love to a woman with no education than by all means pick Brazil.
With Argentinan women you get women ( I am talking about women who are born in Argentina) who are intelligent and to some degree college educated. That is a rarity in Brazil.
Dollar cost BA have a better value. You can rent a nice apartment fo 500 US a month in a nice area. What would that get you in RIO. (again if you like beaches Brazil is not know for having the best beaches).
You can have world class food for a small fraction.
You can have great transportation for a cheap price.
You will feel safe in Argentina compared to RIO.
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Hello to everybody!
I would like to give my own contribution to this discussion about Brazil vs Argentina.
I've travelled a lot in all Latin America, visited many times both Brazil and Argentina, mongered in Brazil and had some real GF in both countries. I speak very good Spanish and Portuguese and I know enough about the history and the culture of this 2 nations, I've also studied it when I was at the college.
My blood is 75% fully European (50% Italian, 25% a mix of Spanish and French) but the other 25% is Argentinian, 'cause my grandmother was from BA.
Last but not least, my actual GF is from latin America (Central America in this case) and one of my best female friends (which whom I have sex sometimes too ) is Brazilian, from Rio.
I have planty of friends from both countries.
For sure I will never understand totally the culture and the way of thinking of Latin American people as I was not born there, but every day I'm trying to get closer and closer to it, with no prejudices.
So here what I think about your topics:
About the Brazilian cuisine.
Brazil has not maybe the best cuisine in Latin America (IMHO the best and more fine cuisine in Latin America is the Peruan one) but I think that is much more varied than the Argentinian one.
Of course in BA you can find plenty of good Italian or Spanish or German and so on restaurants, but the pure Argentinian cuisine is not very rich, and if you don't like meat there's not a lot of choice.
In Brazil you have plenty of regional cuisines, from Amazonas to Rio Grande do Sul passing through Bahia and a lot of variety.
Buy "Quatros Rodas" Brazilian restaurant/hotel guide and try all the 1-3 stars restaurants you find there, you will change your opinion about food in Brazil.
About the beaches:
Just one month ago one very famous French tourism guide made a classifications of the best beaches in the world.
Brazil had a total of 4 beaches classified, the same number than France (don't forget that France owns ex-colonies like Thaiti or Guadaloupe), Italy, Greece and some famous tropical paradise nations (Maldives, Santo Domingo, Seychelles etc).
Go to Fernando de Noronha Islands, visit Morro de Sao Paolo, Mangue Seco, Canoa Quebrada, Jericoacoacora, Ilha Grande) and you will find some really beautiful beaches and unique landscapes, you will change your mind about Brazilian beaches.
Also think about Rio beaches: for sure they are not like Playa la Romana in Santo Domingo or Cayo Coco in Cuba, but how many cities of 10 million people can show a beach and a landscape like the ones you have in Copacabana and Ipanema? Just one in the world, Rio de Janeiro of course.
In Argentina there are no decent beaches, all the Argentinians with money go to Brazil or Uruguay when they want to go to a beach.
Argentina on the other side has very beautiful mountains and wonderful alpine style lakes, something you never find in Brazil.
About women and education.
For sure the average woman from Argentina is more educated than the average Brazilian one.
One of the good thing Argentina still has in spite of the economical crisis is a good educational system, more symilar to the European one than the Latin American one in general.
In fact Argentina is a strange country, a bit European, and a bit Latin American. Just think about the architecture of Buenos Aires and the Tango dance: both they have almost nothing to deal with South America.
A fuck is a fuck, but of course, before fucking maybe you prefer to go out to a fancy restaurant with a well educated college student from BA than a favela women that you can find in the Help disco in Rio. At least you will have something to speak about with the educated porteņa girl.
But of course when the moment to go to the bed comes, the situation is different. Brazilian women are, IMHO, among the best in the world about sex. Sometimes a Brazilian hooker makes sex better than a real GF of another country.
I had various GF from Argentina and none of them was really hot about sex (probably I was unlucky). They were quite similar to some south European women (I mean, Italian or Spanish), so of course they were not a piece of ice like many nothern European women are, but nor they were a hot fire like some Brazilians girl you can meet sometimes are.
I prefer very hot girls, the type of girl who wants to have sex 3 times a day, who likes anal and likes to experiment all the positions, who loves to suck for a long time and always try to please you. This kind of girl IMHO is much more common in Brazil than in Argentina. Some GF I had in Brazil were really sex addicted, they liked sex more than me, and that's very strange LOL.
So, if you look only for well educated girls, for sure Argentina is the best choice in Latin America. If you look only for hot sex, Brazil is a good place to go. If you look for both qualities in the same girl, all the countries can be good, but you must be very lucky to find, and look for a long time.
Also if you have a real GF, sometimes girls from Argentina tend to be more faithful than girls from Brazil. I don't think I would marry a Brazilian woman.
About cost of living:
Both Brazil and Argentina are very cheap, compared to Usa and Europe.
Argentina, which used to be the most expensive country in South America, is now the cheapest one. Just consider that one Peso was equal to one Dollar just 3 years ago and now it's 3 pesos for one dollar.
Brazil tends to have very different prices from place to place, if you speak a good Portuguese and have Brazilian friends you can manage to save a lot of money.
About safety:
Rio is one of the most dangerous places in the world, also for a simple tourist, much more dangerous than Bogotā or Medellin or Mexico City, but safer than Baghdad maybe LOL.
BA was a fairly safe place until 5 years ago. Now it's as dangerous as Rio is in my opinion.
Rio and BA have now quite similar very high homicide rates (about 8 homicides per day in BA and 10-12 in Rio), with the difference that in Rio the 80% of the deads are among drug traffickers and policemen, while in BA it's easier to be killed just to take your money or steel your car.
Both cities are very dangerous, be careful, it's not a joke. It's interesting to know that in many years I have spent travelling in all Latin America the only 2 countries where I have been robbed and mugged are Brazil and Argentina.
So, concluding, I don't think that one place is better than another, they are just very different. Up to you to find your own paradise where you like to be.
Bye.
Hi, Thanks for the Strong Response to my earlier posting concerning BA vs. Brasil.
First of all. Let's set the ground rule here. We know that, what "good" and "bad" can be purely subjective. Case in point, I prefer a seafood and "fresh" organic vegetarian diet, rarely eat red meat, especially beef, so, when I stated BA has very limited meal options, you have to take this into account. Obviously, for a red meat lover, he should discount all I stated (incidentally, I specifically pointed out that BA has lots of red meat oriented restaurant), however, for those seafood and vegetarian travellers, I believe my information will be extremely valuable to them.
I stand by my comment on the food choice, Brasil vs. Argentina. From my American gringo view point, Brasil's cuisine and diversity of food is like San Francisco whereas BA is like Omaha NE or typical American cities in the midwest. I would say, even Chicago has better restaurants and diversity than BA. Case in point, did not find many Indian, Chinese and Japanese restaurants in BA.
Education of the women. I have a different take on this. If we are interviewing for Ph.D candidate, may be BA women may win. Problem with BA women is, since they have "more" education, they manifest a degree of arrogance to those who are less educated. Truly educated people tend to be humble, modest and not anxious to show off. My experience was, the BA women were quite anxious to inform their clients that they have some college education. Brasilian are more modest and humble. I know personally, many of the WSG members are master, Ph.D background with professional standing, may be a woman with some college education may add some flavor to their encounter, I do not know. Personally, I wonder if you spend just a couple of hours with the lady, how the college degree kicks in.
One thing I do agree with many of BA lovers is, BA certainly, is a very nicely built and presented city. I do like the city a lot. However, the same can be said of San Francisco, New York, Toronto. However, for mongering, my personal preference is just not there.
Again, thanks for the strong support and comments.
Bubba Boy
why not just rent an apartment with Internet availability??
I was born and raised in an Italian family. I can tell you Brazil does Italian food to a fucking T. They also have some of the best sushi you'll ever find, as well as meat and poultry on the same level as that of Argentina, which in either case you'll never find anywhere else in the world.
As for beaches, the best beach I've ever been to personally is Cabarete beach in DR. But I'm told that the best beach in DR is Playa Samana, but it's 4 hours each way, 2 hours in a car then 2 more in a ferry!
What is this nonsense about looking for an "educated" woman?
I spent most of my adult life in a classroom. One thing that I can tell you absolutely for certain is that not one day I spent on campus made me a better fuck. I have studied and worked with many brilliant, educated women -- many with advanced degrees -- and I can't think of a single one I would want take to bed with me.
The best sex I ever had with an American girlfriend was with a stripper I dated who barely made it out of high school. (I still get wood just thinking about her)
The best sex I've ever had in my life has been with Brazilian prostitutes.
The whole problem, IMHO, with romantic relationships here in the US is that everyone is trying to find that one person who meets his needs on every level. Guess what? She doesn't exist. You will never find a chick who is incredibily intellectually stimulating, likes all of your hobbies, is a responsible/nurturing mother for your children, and is also a world-class freak in bed. If you did find such a woman, chances are she wouldn't want to have anything to do with YOUR sorry ass.
If you want intelligent, interesting conversation, hang out with intelligent, interesting people (probably other men, to be completely honest). Then after you've had your fill of conversation, fork over the R$ 200 and go get your bells rung by the best fucks on the planet -- Brazilian putas. Why settle for a stuck-up ice queen just for the sake of a little conversation?