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[QUOTE=Towoldse]Is there anywhere in PP we can pick up some sex toys, or sexy lingerie?[/QUOTE]LOL, usualy I get a flight from London always via Bangkok, so I spend a couple of nights in BKK, get my sexy lingerie from there and take it to PP to dress my ladies up in, but I have never seen sex toys in BKK or PP.
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Another lesson learned
[QUOTE=Pirate1]After 6 months of delay I am here in PP.
This is my 1st Field Report so must go easy with my mistakes.
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Dude,
So glad you finally made it to PP.
I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).
Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.
Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.
Cheers
PT
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[QUOTE=Taloha] There are "upscale" local brothels that are not. You would not even know about these ones unless an "upscale" local took you.[/QUOTE]
You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.
Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.
Cheers
PT
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[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Dude,
So glad you finally made it to PP.
I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).
Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.
Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.
Cheers
PT[/QUOTE]Thnxs,
I wuz rather shaken by that whole ordeal. There was a good chance I do not make it out of that house. Nobody saw me go in and nobody know I go there. Because of all the crackdowns, some place like this one locks doors. No way for me to get out without fight 4 armed guys. They could easy kill me or someone else and nobody will know or find.
Yes, $20 not much and I wuz expecting to have them clean out all my money. Surprise they let me go and not ask for all my money I still have in pockets.
I almost did not write about experience at ST63 but decide it is best to add the bad with the good so no other newbies will have to experience all I had to. I now believe it is best for others to also post bad experiences alone with the good ones so others will not follow same mistakes. I also know many will not because I also read how many are flamed for posting bad experiences.
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Le Cyrcee--St 49
Continue PP trip: Finish all my plan tourist sights and over the fright from St63 experience. Time to pick up action.
Went to the riverside for a walk but no find any SW for fun. Not sure if Im to early. Will come back later for another look. Maybe Im in wrong location. I am walking near California hotel.
Decide to go LeCycree for a look. Go in and sit down. Place not bad. Clean and friendly people. Another bloke inside already with beer in hand. I think one of you but it wuz the owner, a Frenchguy. He wuz friendly and talk english well. I order a beer and ask him questions to loose myself for action. He make 2 recommendations but I have eye on this cutie. He said she is good and bin there long time now. I notice her when I walk in by the nice rack she have with cute face. [url]http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cyrceeclub/index.html[/url]
The internet site with Le Cyrcee club. She is the 1st girl in front in the picture. Bloody shit, I cant recall her name?--just remember her nice racks.
She get off chair. Shit, very very short girl. No longer than 4'8" at best. but no matter as I continue to stare at her racks. She have tatoo on body also.
Finish beer and go upstairs. She wash me and we go to bed. She give me nice BJ. Last over 5min. I start to finger her and touch them nice racks. Very soft and smooth. She have good attitute, alwaz smiling at me. We cover many position as possible but her small height made many position difficult. Have her in doogie but she way too low. Have to stand outside bed to do her doggie but worth it. She not thin, little bit chubby but I like it because different. I think too many girls in Cambodia too skinny. This one have meat on her. I keep pumping her but take bit longer time, she is not very tight. no matter because need the extra exercise. Finally come on her nice titty racks.
Give her $3 tips and go down to pay rest of bill.
Total was $2 beer+ $12 for girl + $3 tips=17 and I was out the door happy.
This wuz about how much I lost yesterday at ST63 house and I didnt even get to finish and come. F**k those places there.
Here at Cycree, I leave happy and no rip off and safe place.
I walk back to riverside but alwaz looking around, very dark. Very little lights, only from some stores but most closed. I make it to river and start my walk again but still cant find any SW anywhere. I decide to try Walkabout.
I flag down motodop, not correct, motodop flag me. I say Walkabout, he sez ok and knows. He drive on but notice in wrong direction? I stop him and point that way, he turn and go. Bloody donn know where he was going. I have to direct him. I seem to know PP better than him. Make it to Walkabout bar. I give him 1000riels but he call me back, give him another 500r and he seem ok.
Walk inside and see tables but not much action. Several blokes having drinks and only 3 FL about, non to my liking. I sit anyway and have a beer and see if anything nice come in. 30min later still no action so I pay for beer and leave.
Shanghai not far so I walk over. Some nicer ones here. I sit down and order beer. Girls come over to talk and sit next to me. Bloody nice. But many donn speak english well. Decided on one cutie. I think they all work for bar. Shit, Could not decide early enough and the one I want already pick up by another guy , maybe one of you?
No one else interest me so I pay beer and leave.
Heart of darkness also close. I walk over. They body search me before I enter? Never have that before. Walk in and place wuz dead. Only 2 people in place but maybe too early at 11pm.
I walk back to the Flamingo Hotel, not far and call it a night.
Too be continue
Pirate1 out for now.
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Thanks Pirate1
Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.
Good luck.
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Riverside SWs
they were there last nite. i am staying at the paragon hotel and i was not sure until last nite if they are girl friendly. was knocking around the quay, drink a beer here and there. can't make up my mind if i want to go to sharky's or not. crossed the street (that can be a bit intimidating) to walk along the river. a guy jumped up from the grass, asked if i wanted a lady. she also got up and made the offer clearer. maybe a 6 or 7 but i was not interested in having her up in my room and him downstairs telling her to hurry up. politely declined.
continued my walk and a little later as i was walking next to the wall along the river a couple of seemingly shy types whispered/shouted "hello mister" but it was not a "for sure" invitation so i kept walking.
ten minutes later a cute little thing walked directly up to me and said, "where you go" and i said here i go. we sat down on the wall and she agreed to cim for $10. started at $20 but when i said ten she said ok. said she was 21 and that looked reasonable to me. all of this talk about **** has me spooked.
walked across the street where the young guy who is usually at the door of the hotel opened it without batting an eye. good sign i thought, hope they don't pitch a ***** about a girl. usually there is the whole family sitting around the lobby from grandma to a little kid or two.
walked past the desk, said hi to the kid behind the counter and up we went. nobody batted an eye. then it is up the craziest staircase i have ever been on. steps are different heights and if you are drunk it can be a real challenge. not to mention that when they say you are on the third floor, it means you have three more floors to go as they don't count the ground floor. elevator is a word that doesn't exist in this part of the world. so i have a fourth floor walkup which in ny would be cheaper but that doesn't cut the mustard here. the view is nice from my balcony though.
so i take the little lady into the room and she immediately drops drawers and says "yum yum now". i say well wait until i get my camera out and my pants off. she is very obliging for the camera. gyno shots seem like the norm. she helps spread for an internal. for such a little girl she seems to have a pretty big hairy pussy. she also has baggy tits which she blames now on a two year old kid. her english is spotty so i am not sure how much we are comunicating.
with my pants off we do communicate that it is time to do some yum yum. she gets with the program pretty well for a couple of minutes. then starts mumbling about more money and i am suggesting that if she stays with the program and gets her mouth back where it belongs we will both get out of here quicker.
at this part of the show she opens her mouth and sticks out her tongue for me to look at. a quick glance and i tell her all it needs is some white stuff running over it and it will be fine. she then comes up with the magic word as she points again to her tongue.
hiv
well, that was all it took to get my dick in a reclining state. we use condoms because we are afraid of the possability of running into hiv positive women. but when one says she is, and points to her tongue which you now realize does have a coating of something white and it ain't mine, that elicits a different response.
so i gave her $5 and she begged another buck for a moto and she headed for the door. after she was out and i was washing my dick i realized that i didn't know where my camera was. quit washing and started looking. no camera.
the phone rings. can't really understand what is being said but i assume it is instgiated by the girl showing up downstairs. "she stole my camera, dont let her go" and i am out the door. she is coming back up the stairs, reaching into the pocket of her shorts to get out my camera while begging me not to tell them downstairs that she had it.
in the lobby there are two guys and a women behind the counter and one guy at the door. the girl looks scared and i hope somebody kicks her ass. i repeat that she stole my camera and the older guy behind the counter really gets on her ass. i can't understand a word but he is not complementing her on her good looks. then the woman gets into the act and chews her out. they ask me if she stole any money and should they search her. finally they throw her out.
so much of the question of "are they girl friendly". not if she is a thief. i thanked them and went out and drank a beer which is what i am going to do now. i still like phnom phen. cool place but as others have warned, pay attention. this is not bangkok.
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Keep it up Pirate
Glad you didn't let your setback at St 63 the other night stop you from having more fun.
Another great report, couldn't have done it better myself.
I see you took my advice and picked the small girl with the big tits, fun girl. Funny thing is I can't remember her name either but only the tits.
Like many have also concur--Keep up the good reports.
Cheers
PT
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[QUOTE=Benny09]Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thnx,
These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.
Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.
Benny, are you also newbie in PP?
Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1
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[QUOTE=Pirate1]. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1[/QUOTE]
Hey Dude,
Thanks for the compliments. No need for me to take any of your good credits. Afterall, I only gave you info/hints/tips but its up to you to make them work.
PT
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[QUOTE=Pirate1]Thnx,
These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.
Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.
Benny, are you also newbie in PP?
Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1[/QUOTE]Pirate1,
Glad to hear you're back in the game.Please avoid the SW, they are scammers as is 63rd st.PT2 and others have all stated the risks hear.SW are even worse because they are in your room! 90% are yama addicts,not even slightly interested in your needs. To answer your question,i have been to PP a few times now and am somewhere between a newbie and a regular.Some locals remember me and that helps alot.Forgot to mention Mikado, same as LC but more layback.1 min walk from LC.
Happy hunting
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Establishments
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.
Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.
Cheers
PT[/QUOTE]Hello PT2,
I hope this from my collection is the info you seek.
I copied this from the DV8 website nightlife link 6 months ago or so but don't
see it there now.
So please excuse my posting this long post instead of a convenient link.
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High End Escort Services (These places run out of girls by 12:00 midnight,
except Casa which is open until 3:00 a.m. and Holiday International Manhattan Club)
Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant No. 5 France Street 47 Near What Phnom Girls
arrive at 8:00 pm, all independent escorts with one mamamasan
Vietnamese $67 a night ($50 if you rent a karoke room)
Chinese $150 a night
Cambodians $67 a night (no negotiation on the prices)
Karoke room is $8 all night, girl is $7 plus tip of at least $10.
What you do is between each other, no sex in the room.
You can take her home for $50.
Club 99 No. 10 Street 252 Girls arrive at 8:00 p.m. Cambodians girls Vietnamese girls One mamason $70 a night (negotiated down to $60 a night)
Holiday International Manhattan Club Street 84, off Monivong Girls do not arrive until late at 1:00 a.m. Vietnamese, Chinese and Cambodian dance on the disco floor.
Tell the waiter you want to speak to the mamasan. Tell her who you want. $50 a night (I did not negotiate).
XO Club, No. 85 A, Street 163 By far the best looking girls, Vietnamese and Cambodian.
This is NOT an escort service. The rooms are $8 an up a night. The girls are free but expect a tip.
You sing karoke and hug them. They make money off the food and drinks. The girls drink what you buy them.
Many married women work here to make ends meet. The girls and beer girls will go home with you if they like you.
There is no pressure to go home with you. If you want a girl right away, ask to see the mamasan. Girls are $70 to
$100 a night. See also the Yellow Pages under nightclubs and karoke. "Karoke" is a code word for escort service and places like XO.
Low end escorts
Martinis - This is a freelancer bar and prices are negotiable, there are a couple of mamasans with a few girls.
There is no recourse on the bar if you stuff is stolen by any of the girls you may pick up here. Prices are around $10-$20.
The girls standing at night near the Independance Monument, near Wat Phnom and along street 106.
Be careful if you go to these places as you could easily be robbed. The girls on 106st are most pick pockets.
Walkabout.- Same as Martinis
Sharkies Bar.
Heart of Darkness. - You'll probably see many of the same girls you'd meet in Walkabout and Sharkies.
Le Crycee - Closest thing you'll get to a brothel.
Sophies Club - An experience, a BJ bar. STD's can be transmitted thru a BJ.
Mid Range Hostess bars.
There are about 20 or so hostess bars aimed at westerners, prices are negotiable and the girls are generally a better standard. Bars do not charge for sex services provided by the girls as this is illegal.
Hostess bars do have a bar fine that covers the loss of income created by not having the staff member in the bar.
Middle range escort services.
The Cambodian brothels are all located near the Lucky Star Hotel No 14 Street 336. At night, the brothel owners rent space at the hair salons. When you drive by, the pimps will call you in. The brothels are open during the day as well.
You have to knock on the doors. The girls are all Cambodian. Prices are $10 to $25. There are also girls that stand in groups of threes on the street corners nearby.
The Vietnamese brothels (there are four of them) are all located on Street 63Sangkat Phsar Thmei Ti 3. No. 40 is a brothel.
During the day it is a haircut shop. Knock on the door during the day. The girls are $30 a night. You can negotiate.
The girls at the brothels work harder to please you than the independents because the pimps actually beat them up if you complain, so don't support these places.
Motodops / Tuk Tuk Drivers.
Usually a good source of local knowledge, you'll never pay local prices but you will get to see a few places not generally talked about.
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Club Casa
One of the establishments from the "High End" places file I did visit.
The Casa Had Viet girls upstairs in a room, well-lit and must have been just over a hundred of them.
The girls were all wearing a number but very few bothered to make eye contact with me. I was a little early at about 8pm so they were still filing in and primping themselves infront of mirrors.
Some looked good, but what seperated these from the lower priced viet girls was they had money for beauty parlors and dressed better. Dosen't matter how good they look if they aren't showing any interest in me I wouldn't want them to go with me.
Left after 15 minutes and never asked (because nobody bothered to make an offer) if the $65 price tag was correct.
I do believe it was going to cost more than I would be willing to pay, lots of signs advertising Hennesy cognac if that tells you anything.
This Club Casa is also a nightclub and hotel, I recall when checking for wifi hotspots this place is one of them. Not sure what staying here would be like costwise, what the rooms are like or if the nightclub would be too noisey for sleeping.
Walked through the nightclub on the way to and from the viewing room with the viet girls and it was not opened yet and was extremely dark even though what appeared to be the staff, working, setting up the place for the opening.
It's located in the circle that goes around that park with the lite blue Wat off Sisowath Quay. Sorry don't have my map handy.
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Missed a good bar
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]
Bar 104 - never been inside but looks like a nice relaxing bar to have a drink in.[/QUOTE]At the time of your visit to 104 street OneZeroFour had about 26 girls in the bar, now it's down to about 17 but the number fluctuates.
Most go out, except for the manager and cashier and one other girl.
The bar has been gaining a lot of popularity over the last fews months and now is as busy as Zanzibar. Over the last month or so Zanzibar seems to have lost most of their better girls, including the 3 I liked.
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PP Update
Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.
It's taken me this long because I was searching for good news, but there's not much to be had. The sad fact is that the town is in a long, slow decline on the International Boom-Boom Scale and there are few signs that things are turning around.
Here are the three most important things I've noticed.
Fewer girls.
Somewhat less attractive girls.
Higher prices.
Before I go any further with this, I should probably say that I've been spending substantial amounts of time here – anywhere from 2 to 6 months a year – since 1997, which puts me in a relatively small group of people. So I actually do have a frame of reference. I knew the place when it was at its best, and I know it now.
And it ain't the same.
That doesn't mean that someone who's never been here, or has been here only a couple of times in the past two or three years, shouldn't come. There's more than enough available material, and it's still a bargain compared to other, um, shopping districts in Asia. You can still have a good time here.
Before we move on to some of the action spots, let me take a minute to compare the two varieties of companionship available here: Viets and Khmers.
Generally speaking, the Viets are more adventurous and more commercial. The Khmers take a narrower view of things. They tend to believe, for example, that the mouth is to be used for eating and talking. It's relatively rare to have a Khmer girl spend any time doing the Hoover on your little brother. On the other hand, the Khmers tend to be sweeter and cuddlier.
So if you want proficient, adventurous, and professional, go Viet. If you want a GFE (with a GF who doesn't do all that much) go Khmer. There are exceptions, of course. As Mark Twain said, no generalization is worth a damn, including this one.
Nevertheless, give me a Viet, every time.
And that's one of the problems. In the old days, the infamous Svay Pak served as a sort of farm team, the minor leagues in which Viet freelancers learned their skills. Now that it's gone, the continuous flow of new Viet talent has narrowed to a trickle. There are a few new faces, but only a few.
And several ladies of my acquaintance have told me that there are new problems for Viets trying to enter Cambodia. This has happened before, but it seems to be more of an issue now. A few girls coming back from their Viet New Year trip home had to try several times before getting back in.
Okay. The venues.
Martini is still the mother load if what you want is an evening doing the horizontal bop that doesn't require you to take out a second mortgage. There are still some beautiful girls here, about 60% Khmer and 40% Viet. (If you want to find out who's who, talk to a girl, find out which camp she belongs to, and then look to see who she hangs with. Generally speaking, there's not much international fraternization.) Set the price up front, get it clear which specialties you expect, and how long you want her to stay. These rules apply for everyplace on this list. If you think the price is too high, bargain. She'll either walk away or agree. But get it straight in advance/
Sharky is (I think) a pretty dreadful bar, but that's mostly because the guys who own it are really, really fond of 1980s big-hair metal and AC-DC. The music seems to start out reasonably acceptably and then get louder and worse as the evening wears (and I do mean wears) on. Still, the food here is pretty good – best Tex-Mex in PP – and there are some honeys in attendance. I'd say the mix is 65% Khmer and 35% Viet. More tattoos in evidence here than in Martini, along with whatever that implies.
Walkabout remains in business solely, I'm convinced, because it's open 24/7 and there are always girls there, although sometimes it should be written “girls” because many of them are well into their fourth decade. (For those of you who are counting, that's the thirties.) One other appealing thing about Walkabout is that there are short-time rooms upstairs. On the less appealing end of things, the quality of the talent is generally lower than at Martini or Sharky, and they wash the tables approximately once a year, whether they need it or not. The damp “cleaning towels” at Walkabout are among the world's most fearsome objects. One note – there's generally a slump in the number of females present from about 4:30 PM until about 6:30 as the ladies go to make up and dress up for the evening.
Sophie remains Sophie. It still offers suck-the-knob contests at the bar and a couple of really awful rooms in the back. There's nowhere else like it, which may or may not be a bad thing. Most of the talent has been there an awfully long time. 100% Khmer, but all bets are off, since Sophie's girs are famous for being willing to do anything. Anything at all.
Le Cyrcee has gotten some bad-mouthing lately because of rises in the room and service rates, but don't miss it. The girls have gotten well beyond the friendly stage, and there are now some Viets available – maybe 4 or 5 out of about 30. Once again, though, unless you simply have a genetic preference for Viets, it doesn't matter here – these girls are up for pretty much anything you can think of.
Mikado gets my vote as most improved bar. Last time I was in there (last night) there were 30-some Khmer girls hanging around doing nothing. One of the wonderful things about Mikado is that the young ladies are apparently prohibited from wearing panties and are not shy about demonstrating the fact. Take a seat at the bar, do a survey of what's available, and then take her (or them) and adjourn to one of the little booths along the wall opposite the bar while you check out your mutual chemistry and the absence of her underwear. Then take her upstairs to the best short-time rooms in PP – cleaned between sessions, with sparkly lights and mirrors literally everywhere, including on the ceiling. Of course, if it turns out your choice has had three or four children, you'll get multiple-camera coverage of her stretch marks, but nothing is perfect. Standard of service is very high.
DV8 has some of the friendliest girls in town – not always the most attractive, but really sweet. And it would seem (ssshhhhhh) that rooms are once again available on the premises for those of you who may have a sweetie asleep at home.
Other bars: Golden Vine says it has girls dancing (clothed) on the bar, but every time I go in it just ended for the evening. Girls are okay, nothing to make you make a deposit in the memory bank, but not all of them are available. Same is true of the bar next door with a Mexican name I can't remember at the moment – bar dancing that always seems to have just ended, and a yes/no situation with take-out. On the same little block is Voodoo, which is same-same except it doesn't claim to have girls dancing on the bar. Some pretty girls in here. Happy Man Bar is a relative newcomer. Lots of girls, generally in the 5-7 area, mostly available for further exploration elsewhere.
This could go on forever. In fact, it already has. On the brothel front, 63rd Street remains (mostly) closed, and foreigners are not made to feel welcome in the places that are still in business. Toul Kork is dirty and dangerous. There are some beautiful girls here, but there's always a chance that you'll just get one glance as the mama-san slams the metal doors shut in your face. Svay Pak is a ghost town, with some rumored action off the main street, but I think you'd have to be crazy to go there.
So my tips: find half a dozen girls you like, get their phone numbers, and then work to make your phone book ever thicker. Treat the girls nicely, and word will get around: you'll get attention from some of the better-looking talent in the venue of your choice.
You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.
RS