[QUOTE=Marconista]Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.[/QUOTE]Did you give them money?
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[QUOTE=Marconista]Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.[/QUOTE]Did you give them money?
[QUOTE=Marconista]After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.[/QUOTE]I think there must be a " How a Filipina gets to deal with foreigners " website where they discuss how to handle us.
Because for sure, they have all read and totally learnt the mantra of " Tell him you are the first foreigner you have met".
I've heard that line many many many times and within ten minutes of meeting were on our way to a motel.
What I think they mean is " you are the first foreigner I've met TODAY".
Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?
BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)
[QUOTE=Marconista]Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.
Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.
So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.[/QUOTE]
You are right that many girls are reluctant to stay overnight even if they are up for a daytime meeting. (By the way if you are staying at a place with a pool try suggesting she come around for a swim, bring bikini and that you will be pleased to take photos of her - this is a very attractive proposition for many girls at it legitimizes coming to your room. Getting some decent photos is very important for them , to upload to their friendster and to improve their DIA profile - if you are looking for a threesome its also a good way of suggesting she bring along an open minded fuckable friend but make sure she is only allowed to bring slim sexy open minded real girls and specifically no gays, fatties or moral majority types. You can be frank and explicit about this.)
The reasons for non overnighting include worried about sleeping with a stranger, family curfew, Phils boyfriend, wants to go out dancing with her friends and blow the money you give her. Maybe 30% of those willing to fuck will also overnight if you want. Student types living at a "boardinmg house" away from their family can be the best bet.
[QUOTE=Superman06]Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?
BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)[/QUOTE]
On balance this is probably what the majority of girls think other means (ie remunerated short term sex), but the girls often dont 100% understand what it means. The ones that do understand it are the pros/scammers/lady boys etc so if a girl ticks other pay attention to whether she might fall into that category.
Those ticking "dating" are probably more up for it than those ticking just marriage but i ignore what they have selected as i have found plenty who have specified just marriage willing to fuck too.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Excellent post Greg.
Just a couple of general points in response:
(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk
(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.
You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)
I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.[/QUOTE]
Good point RK
DIA has a policy that you cant solicit for money or offer money etc so I avoid references to paying anything, also you must use words that are clear but dont specifically mention sex etc.
Re the dual profiles. Yes you are in danger of getting both profile blocked if you use on the same computer/browser. I can access both my profile and my girl's profile on the laptop I'm now using maybe it allows a male and a female profile. If you want to try to run two profiles try using a different browser for each profile. Eg Firefox and Chrome or Opera or Flock or (last resort Explorer ). it may be using cookies that are held on a particular browser.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Did you give them money?[/QUOTE]
EF: Is your concern one of
(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?
If it is (1), then don't be too worried, its mostly a question of the style with which you do it. Unless she is independently wealthy, within say 15 years of your age or shooting for a husband, very naive some financial contribution is likely to be expected or very much appreciated. But the majority of these girls are very keen not to be treated or feel like a *****, therefore the majority of non hard core ones will not ask for or discuss money, but for a girl living on say 200P a day a contribution of say 500P short time or 1000P all night is almost always appreciated. Try not to make a big deal about it here's something to help you with your bills or whatever. If you are worried about the girls feelings treat her like a gf when you say good bye not "here's your cash thanks for the fuck" that will make most of them feel very bad.
(2) For most guys flying in on a holiday the amounts involved are actually money well spent, firstly in helping someone who has made you happy, secondly on encouraging repeat performances or invitations to fuck friends too and thirdly to make things much less complicated in terms of emotional commitment. The expats living here long term will often be on a tighter budget and see things differently.
(3) Surprising though it may seem the average Joe balding 40/50 something white guy is in many cases a genuinely attractive sexual partner to many 20 year old Filipinas. Of course its also the hotel and restaurant lifestyle that is assumed to come with it, but if you are tolerably good in bed you will find many Filipinas who REALLY enjoy being fucked by you and want it as many times as you can manage. This is a big difference with Thailand and the rest of SEA and one of the main reasons fro coming to the Phils and avoiding the bar scene where I think girls will inevitably become too jaded to genuinely enjoy the experience.
What I used to do at DIA was search while NOT logged in! To do this just bring DIA up without logging in and search for what you're looking for! Write the screen names of those you want to hit on and save them or write them down and When properley signed in send them messages!
I found this system was great because I was'nt bothered by girls contacting me while I was hunting!
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]EF: Is your concern one of
(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?[/QUOTE]C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)
3. I don't do 19 yo:)
1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky!
@Freebiefan,
Yeah for sure lolz.. the first foreigner today.
But honestly, they were all totally amateurs in my eyes.
@Escort Fan,
I gave them a little, for transport and to fill up the rice-fund of the family. I did not feel for buying a sack of rice, so gave some cash instead :D
Actually, I remember one of the girls describing her family situation, and saying how they were struggling on a day to day basis, as none in the family had a job. I told her I was willing to contribute a little, and it was thumbs-up on the webcam.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Did you give them money?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)
3. I don't do 19 yo:)
1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky![/QUOTE]
You are right its more tricky, but generally cash will still be much appreciated. A uni girl with a job as a manageress at a finance company for example may only be earning 8000-10000 P a month at least in the provinces. I think its only when u start talking about the real middle classes where she has a car etc that its much of an issue.
[QUOTE=Superman06]Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
. Is my thinking right?[/QUOTE]Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.
As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.
If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"
I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.
As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.
If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"
I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL[/QUOTE]
You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.
All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.
I have posted here recently asking advice on scam issues with recent Filipinas found on dating websites. To restate to readers , I am sincere in my quest to find a wife.
It turns out it really is all about the money.
This is apparent of course in the regular course of business here, but one would suppose that those women who would want real marriageable relationships would not be interested in financial gain simultaneous with finding a real husband. How naïve am I?
So, after the recent scam attempts and the requisite emotional turmoil, and on the advice of Marconista, I changed my Cherry Blossoms text introduction to a variation on his theme.
NO, I DO NOT SEND MONEY TO HEAL YOUR CARABAO OR FIX YOUR LEAKY BOAT.
I DO NOT WANT CASUAL SEX. SERIOUS relationship seekers only need reply.
I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
As Rubberyman's ALTERBOY found out thru SEXYBEAST - even paragons of the marriageable Filipina are seducible - presumably in return for some financial compensation.
My experience would seem to support Rubberyman's conclusion, that "just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK".
Oh well, I have to go now and start bailing as I try to fix MY leaky boat.
What a world, what a world.
Bob
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]
...Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
...
Bob[/QUOTE]
So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.