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Nixonbd,
I'll be arriving before noon August 29 and staying until September 6. I will be sleeping at the Castillo, but probably will be hanging at Sportsmans most of the time.
The Balmoral is a nice hotel, but they are very anti-hobby. hope you have a back-up plan for where to take the girls you meet in BM/KL. There are a couple of short time hotels close by, but someone else here will have to fill in the blanks, one is Hotel Asia and is very trashy, the other is __________, and is supposed to be pretty nice, I just can't remember the name.
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La Oficina
[QUOTE=BabyHuey]Nixonbd,
I'll be arriving before noon August 29 and staying until September 6. I will be sleeping at the Castillo, but probably will be hanging at Sportsmans most of the time.
The Balmoral is a nice hotel, but they are very anti-hobby. hope you have a back-up plan for where to take the girls you meet in BM/KL. There are a couple of short time hotels close by, but someone else here will have to fill in the blanks, one is Hotel Asia and is very trashy, the other is __________, and is supposed to be pretty nice, I just can't remember the name.[/QUOTE]
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Balmoral....anti-hobby?
[QUOTE=BabyHuey]Nixonbd,
I'll be arriving before noon August 29 and staying until September 6. I will be sleeping at the Castillo, but probably will be hanging at Sportsmans most of the time.
The Balmoral is a nice hotel, but they are very anti-hobby. hope you have a back-up plan for where to take the girls you meet in BM/KL. There are a couple of short time hotels close by, but someone else here will have to fill in the blanks, one is Hotel Asia and is very trashy, the other is __________, and is supposed to be pretty nice, I just can't remember the name.[/QUOTE]
Why would you classify this hotel as anti-hobby? I thought that if you pay a $20.00 guest fee, she is allowed in for the night?
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Balmoral - Anti-Hobby
It's about as anti-hobby as the Morazan and Del Ray. They both charge for guests.
If it's during the day and you go in looking as a couple, you can get by at times.
I'm not upset about the extra security, for a small price.
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Balmoral - Anti-hobby
BTW, I've never been charged more than $15.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd]It's about as anti-hobby as the Morazan and Del Ray. They both charge for guests.
If it's during the day and you go in looking as a couple, you can get by at times.
I'm not upset about the extra security, for a small price.[/QUOTE]Pro-Hobby vs. Anti-hobby is not black and white. They may not turn mongers completely away like they do at places like the BW Irazu or discourage them heavily with a ludicrous $40 chica fee as has been reported at the HI Aurola but I'd hardly call even a "$15 fee" exactly welcoming us with open arms.
"Its about as anti-hobby as the Morazon"? That is a bit of a stretch. How much does the Morazon charge to bring guests back? That $15 is at least 5 times more than the Morazon charges on even its worst day, so the Balmoral is hardly on the same level (now, as for the HDR, don't expect me to say anything to defend their greedy policies).
And your solution about sneaking in by acting like a regular couple is hardly a valid argument in support of the contention that the Balmoral is pro-monger. If they were really pro-monger or at least charged what could be argued was a reasonable fee, then one wouldn't feel like they really needed to sneak in to avoid it. You're absolutely right about one thing though, not having to sneak your guest in (or feeling you need to because the fee is too high) IS definitely pro-monger. A small fee or better yet no fee at all and the tiny amount of inconvenience to sign your guest in properly is well worth it for the added security.
Balmoral may not be the most anti-hobby hotel in the Gulch, but you'll never convince me they really welcome us as long as they charge the chica fee that they do.
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Balmoral fee.....
[QUOTE=Nixonbd]BTW, I've never been charged more than $15.[/QUOTE]
I was there two weeks ago, and I was charged $20.00 per night for my guest. A buddy of mine also got charged the same amount for bringing his gal in for the night. So either I was over charged or they just raised their fee.
BTW, when I stayed there in May, it was $15.00 per night for the guest.
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To Each His Own......
When I stayed at the Morazan, 3-years ago, I was charged $15 for guests. I can't speak for their current policies.
I'm guessing there are different levels of mongering. I'm not into SJ to see how many chicas I can bag, preferring quality in the ones I do end up with. If the essence of your trip is to do everything for the cheapest price, more power to you. I know a lot of "mongerers" who stay at the Del Ray and pay $90 (+) a nite plus the guest fee. It all depends on what you're willing to part with money wise. However, as a fellow senior member, I've always been an advocate to get folks to stop paying the Columbian asking price of $100. That's what ruins it for everyone.
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Nixon, not to belabor the point, but even if you only bring back ONE chica per day that $15-20 (+TAX) extra is not insignificant. That added amount that you pay to the hotel is not that much less than you could pay for an entire session at a Tico MP including BOTH the cost of the chica AND the room. I'm not suggesting that a Tico MP session is strictly comparable to a session you could get back at your hotel, but the point is that $15-20 could buy you something of some real value extra rather than simply handing more money over to a hotel for a room you've really already paid for.
Also, ceteris parabus, all other things being equal, if you want to fairly compare 2 hotels of comparable quality and cost, then you shouldn't pick EITHER the Morazon, which is a budget oriented hotel and thus geared to an entirely different market, OR the HDR, which is widely regarded as an overpriced rip-off. There are plenty of hotels of all price categories that do not charge any guest fees or, if they do, something much more moderate than $15-20. Try comparing instead hotels with similar quality rooms and prices, and possibly comparable values for their base room rates, AND THEN throw on top of the standard price for one of those hotels that hidden once (or more) per day tax (aka guest fee) which raises the REAL cost of the room.
Sure the rooms at the Balmoral may be nice. At $80/nt +tax for their STANDARD rooms (even more for the better rooms) they ought to be. Other hotels in that price level should have equal quality rooms. But how does the Balmoral compare to hotels that cost $95/nt, which is really what you're paying when you bring a chica back every night?
Now, OTOH, if you're trying to tell us that the Balmoral is such a good deal that it even beats out other hotels in its price class when you tack an extra $15-20 on to its regular price, then that is another story. That might make it a place to stay IN SPITE of its monger unfriendliness. Like you said, to each their own. I'm glad your happy staying at the Balmoral. It may be a great hotel. I just can't see it being described as completely monger friendly when it charges mongers $15-20 more per night than it charges non-mongers.
BTW, you're the ONLY person I've ever hear report a $15 charge at the Morazon. Given that the rooms themselves have been costing only $35-40/nt that seems really hard to believe. The most that I've heard being charged by them has been $3/guest and that can often be waived if you clarify the terms before you make your reservation.
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Hotel M
Anybody what the deal is with Hotel M???? It looks like a really high, upscale version of Sportsmens Lodge. Do they have parties there? Do they have chicas? Do they charge chica fees???? No real clarity on their website, but it looks like a really great place to stay.
NB
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To Each his Own
Drop it already, Prolijo. I'm not on here to make argument or push a particular hotel. We all have different experiences and agendas.
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You Are So Correct
[QUOTE=Prolijo]Nixon, not to belabor the point, but even if you only bring back ONE chica per day that $15-20 (+TAX) extra is not insignificant. That added amount that you pay to the hotel is not that much less than you could pay for an entire session at a Tico MP including BOTH the cost of the chica AND the room. I'm not suggesting that a Tico MP session is strictly comparable to a session you could get back at your hotel, but the point is that $15-20 could buy you something of some real value extra rather than simply handing more money over to a hotel for a room you've really already paid for.
Also, ceteris parabus, all other things being equal, if you want to fairly compare 2 hotels of comparable quality and cost, then you shouldn't pick EITHER the Morazon, which is a budget oriented hotel and thus geared to an entirely different market, OR the HDR, which is widely regarded as an overpriced rip-off. There are plenty of hotels of all price categories that do not charge any guest fees or, if they do, something much more moderate than $15-20. Try comparing instead hotels with similar quality rooms and prices, and possibly comparable values for their base room rates, AND THEN throw on top of the standard price for one of those hotels that hidden once (or more) per day tax (aka guest fee) which raises the REAL cost of the room.
Sure the rooms at the Balmoral may be nice. At $80/nt +tax for their STANDARD rooms (even more for the better rooms) they ought to be. Other hotels in that price level should have equal quality rooms. But how does the Balmoral compare to hotels that cost $95/nt, which is really what you're paying when you bring a chica back every night?
Now, OTOH, if you're trying to tell us that the Balmoral is such a good deal that it even beats out other hotels in its price class when you tack an extra $15-20 on to its regular price, then that is another story. That might make it a place to stay IN SPITE of its monger unfriendliness. Like you said, to each their own. I'm glad your happy staying at the Balmoral. It may be a great hotel. I just can't see it being described as completely monger friendly when it charges mongers $15-20 more per night than it charges non-mongers.
BTW, you're the ONLY person I've ever hear report a $15 charge at the Morazon. Given that the rooms themselves have been costing only $35-40/nt that seems really hard to believe. The most that I've heard being charged by them has been $3/guest and that can often be waived if you clarify the terms before you make your reservation.[/QUOTE]You are so correct about how "Chica Fees" can, will, and do add up fast! It's already bad enough that you're paying for p*ssy when it's free and doesn't cost her anything, but someone else, the hotel, too is foolish.
Why don't you ask mommy if you can have friends over? You're asking the hotel.
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I do find it odd that someone who complains about people paying $100 -- "that's what ruins it for everyone" -- doesn't seem to object to $15-20 chica fees. Kind of a contradiction, it seems to me.
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[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]I do find it odd that someone who complains about people paying $100 -- "that's what ruins it for everyone" -- doesn't seem to object to $15-20 chica fees. Kind of a contradiction, it seems to me.[/QUOTE]Nixon, don't take this personally because this is no longer about the Balmoral and what they charge but rather the larger issue of "guest fees" in general, regardless of hotel.
At least, when a guy pays $100 for a chica he's not the only one being screwed. Sure, one could argue whether any chica is really worth $100 or not, but at least from her viewpoint she is providing something extremely personal and of very real value (ie letting some strange disgusting gringo stick his dick inside her pussy). Naturally, they should be able to charge whatever they can get for such a service. OTOH, when a hotel charges an extra "guest fee", they're really not providing anything of extra value or certainly not much extra value. After all, you've already paid for the room itself. Having a chica come over to visit for an hour or two, couldn't possibly increase that hotel's expenses enough to justify what they sometimes charge. Added laundry expense? The 2 minutes of labor it takes to sign her in? Added security risks to the HOTEL? I'm sorry, I just don't see that being anything nearly as personal or valuable as what a chica does for her money and certainly not worth even as much as $20. At worst, even if the chica stays all night they shouldn't charge any more than what the extra rate would be for a double instead of a single room (usually no more than $5-10 more).
I can see only 2 possible rational reasons for charging high guest fees:
1) For a 3rd party (namely the hotel) to profiteer off of the personal actions of two other individuals in the privacy of a room that one of those two individuals has already fully bought and paid for. Why do they only charge the fee when it is apparent the quest you're bringing back is a prostitute? So they can make a little extra money off the deal too? Couldn't such 3rd party profiteering off of the act of prostitution consitute pimping under CR law?
or alternatively
2) They really don't want such activities going on in their hotel at all. They may be willing to allow it for an extra fee but they're really trying to discourage it by making the fee even higher than what they'd charge for other couples that check in together.
Just as a chica is free to ask for $100 if she wants and some guys will pay it, a hotel can institute whatever guest policies it wants and some guys will still choose to stay there. However, at the same time, just as many of us know to "just say no" (or NEXT!) to outrageous demands and simply move on to other chica who are more reasonably or more welcoming with their attitudes, we as mongers can and should "vote with out feet" and move on to other hotels with more reasonable (or no) guest fees and policies that are more welcoming to our market.
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Just curious: if you make the reservation for 2 people when you book the room, do they still charge a chica fee? I have found this works in other Latin American countries, and I wonder if it works in San Jose. (I have stayed only at Sportsmen's Lodge, which has no chica fee.)