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[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1447911]You might want to ask Sir L how he does it. Seems he is quite good at picking good performers. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dr BJ;1447911]What works well is to try to do this without making it sound like a job interview, ask a couple of questions and then have a laugh and joke for five minutes or so.[/QUOTE]Harold, I just do exactly the same as Dr BJ by the sounds of it. I think there is a good performer in most gogo girls, you've just got to increase your odds by being nice to them. I remember I explained my modus operandi and you called it 'romantic horse shit' but I think being fun and friendly with the girls, holding their hands, complimenting them, buying them a lady-drink before they ask, playing silly games and just generally helping them relax as much as possible unquestionably leads to a better service. To say you've got to 'go ugly' to get performance is just incorrect.
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BKK Girls
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1448048]there is a good performer in most go go girls, you've just got to increase your odds by being nice to them. I think being fun and friendly with the girls, holding their hands, complimenting them, buying them a lady-drink before they ask, playing silly games and just generally helping them relax as much as possible unquestionably leads to a better service. To say you've got to 'go ugly' to get performance is just incorrect.[/QUOTE]Absolutely right. It amazes me how many guys here on the forum apparently are having a tough time finding the love in BKK. It seems to me they don't know how to relate to a BKK girl, professional or amateur. Some guys appear to have no game, no personality. They just expect great sex out of thin air. Some guys are way too tight about money and hate spending any amount of baht on a few extra ladies drinks or paying the going rate for a ST shag. Loosen up on the money belt. If necessary shag less in order to better afford to shag better. And I guess still other guys don't know how to shag at all beyond the basics and think the harder the better. I consider myself pretty much an average to slightly above average western man in looks, personality, intelligence, finances, sexual ability, hygiene and I have no problem finding delightful willing BKK working girls everywhere I look. The problem in BKK and Pattaya is there are too many good ones not too few. Too much GFE not too little. After I am in town a few days, I start to receive texts from 4 or 5 of my current favorite girls every day, several times per day, asking the standard question,"are you coming to see me tonight? I wait for you!" Bla Bla bla. It is hard to make time for everybody and still have time to meet great new girls. I only have so much vital personal fluids to go around. There is only 24 hours in a day. I have to sleep sometime. Two girls a day is the most I can handle before I soon run out of power. A girl a day is my usual pace. That leaves hundreds of wonderfully qualified girls lacking my personal attention. Damn!
So here is my advice to those that haven't found the love in BKK: if you are having a hard time with the Thai girls look introspectively at what you are doing, be honest with yourself, find the problem, and fix it. Complaining about the rotten quality or the girl's atitude is easier, but it won't help you. Start with 1. Be prepared to spend a little money. Money lubricates the system and makes everything work properly. Don't be tight. You don't have to be crazy either 2. Be nice to the girls. It is common sense. You want to have a good time. So do they. Make them smile and laugh. Put them at ease. Sure, we all know they are prostitutes, so what. If a girl likes you she is going to show you a much better time then if she just considers you a task to get over with. DUH! When a Thai girl likes you, ST is 3 or 4 hours and she is not in a hurry to get back to the bar. LT is until 1pm - 2pm or until she has to get ready to go back to work. I like spending time with my girls. I take them out to dinner and they turn me on to interesting restaurants I wouldn't ordinarily have found. I like barhopping with them after shagging. Drinking too much beforehand is bad for sex. 3. Learn how to fuck. This is important. Most of the internet porno stuff is bullshit. Learn what really turns on a girl and do it. Hint: it is not about jamming her until it hurts. I don't know about you, but turning a pretty Asian girl on turns me on. 4. Practice good hygiene. Thai girls are among the cleanest, most hygienic girls I have ever met.
OK that's about all I have to say. I love BKK and always have a great time here. I find current 2010-2013 BKK girls are some of the best sex partners I have ever had. If some of you don't share my opinion, that's fine. There are a lot of other places you can go. Try Rio, Medellin, Sao Paulo, Jakarta, the PI, Germany, Prague. But I think you will find BKK girls are among the best.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1448044]Thanks Paul!
Bangkok is a great place to live. So much to offer and Thailand has wonderful things to see and do. Traveling about the country here is very inexpensive as well and once you get out of BKK the people are delightful. Learn a bit of Thai and you will have a wonderful retirement.
Ever since I hit puberty my fantasy was to be in a place where I could screw great looking women whenever I wanted. Well, in '99 when I was 34 that fantasy became a reality. For the better part of 8 years I was banging at least 3 or 4 different chicks per week. Honestly I did not think I would ever tire of it. Another aspect of it was the fun. The "scene" was far more fun pre-flood and even more fun pre-coup. With the changing aspects of P4P in LOS and my familiarity, interest began to wane.
Oh, I still look at women wherever I go. BKK is the best for that. But what I am attracted to now and what I was attracted to when I moved here are two different things.
One friend's Thai wife made the comment to me,"When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. After a few years they do." A Japanese dude we met in Thermae asked us what women in there we found attractive. When we pointed out the white skinned Chinese types his eyes widened and he was surprised. He then asked us why white guys like girls that look like monkeys. We laughed, but it is true. Some of the girls I was enamored with 13 years ago would get an urgh from me today. And herein lies part of the problem. Most of the gals that I do find attractive now would not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on me if I was on fire. So I settle for the nest best thing, PSE Oilies, and hey, you can always close your eyes.[/QUOTE]Bingo! Excellent post. Especially the penultimate sentence.
I don't live there (yet) but my experience mirrors yours.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan;1447896]I'm not an expat yet, but will be. Whether or not it's Thailand is still open to debate. But I've seen enough to know that easy and readily available sex is fun for a while, but wears thin quickly. If you don't have some sort of other interests, some sort of "family" relationship, or some other social "anchor," you're screwed.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Been here for a decade as an expat and the bars, massage, the whole scene gets old very fast. I never liked the bars to begin with but now you have to really drag me there. Also, the little immature Monkey-like girls and their attitude just aggravates the hell out of me. When I see how some girls talk to Tourists, I can't help but laugh at how fucking dickless these idiots are. I bet you if these same girls would raise their voices to a Thai guy they'd end being severely beaten.
As for the food, well, sure thai food is good as far as middle class goes but there ain't nothing fancy about Thai Cuisine. I eat it every day though but it's more our of convenience than anything else.
Still, a very good life here and I would really recommend it as a place to live but just one thing to keep in mind: Thais don't like Foreigners, we are guests here and could be kicked out at any time.
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Lessons of a first-timer
I have been monitoring this forum for a while and have to say first. Thanks to all those contributing. I appreciate all the good advice.
I find it funny after just having learnt that going cheap is going sour I find the previous posts on this thread. I'm starting to understand why. It's about investment. At home that would be predominantly a investment in time. Being here only for a couple of days the investment has to have a number on a piece of paper with the King on it.
So what happened. The tuktuk driver in front of my hotel helped me out yesterday for a small fee and told me if I need 'boom boom' I could call upon him. So I decided to give it a chance. He dropped some prices going from 1500-2500 bht for all night. Being on a backpacker's budget that seemed appealing. First mistake.
'Mike' took me to a place in an alley just behind the Bamrungrad International Hospital. It looked bad from the outside but knowing that even Tulip is supposed to look terrible from the outside, I decided to go inside. Did I mention it was around 23:30? Second mistake.
The girls inside were 4-6. 5 max, from my perspective. But being from a country that has the reputation of giving residency to millions of cheap bastards, I decided to go for it if I could drop the price. It dropped from 3000 to 2200 after a tough bargain while the girl I already chose was waiting impatiently for at least 5 minutes until the deal was sealed. Third mistake.
Back in the hotel with the girl she was pretty fast to get things going. I was fine with that, because I would have her all night, right? In my mind anyway. After a quick and sloppy BJ she started working me over. No kissing, not even looking at me. It was hard to stay up to the task. Eventually I was able to unload in the doggystyle position because now I didn't have to face her uninterested look.
Next thing on her menu was complaining about her tiredness and she tried to get me to sleep. I had just taken some Kamarga, still thinking I was going to have lots of pops on her. But while waiting for the stuff to set in she fell asleep. After a good 45 minutes of silence I was ready, woke her up but she was whining, she wanted to go home, she was tired etc. Etc. I got angry and threatened to go back to tell her boss. I got an angry look but it got her attention. Eventually I was allowed to go in one more time, heavy on lube. After that, I decided it was best to dismiss her because this was no fun at all.
So. What did I learn on my first time?
1. Don't expect tuktuk drivers to be truthful. You're here only a couple of days while their real clientele. Being the bar / MP / whatever. Are there forever;
2. Don't go in late at night. The best girls will be taken and you're left with the bad ones;
3. If you're short on money, don't monger. Never go for a bargain. The girl will know at some point and she will turn sour. Take the sub-header of this forum very seriously.
I notice I wrote all of the above in 2nd person form. However I'm mostly telling myself. How could I be so st* I'm actually hoping someone might comfort me and say 'I know, I've been there, too, many years ago. Don't worry, you'll learn. It gets better! '
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1448044]A Japanese dude we met in Thermae asked us what women in there we found attractive. When we pointed out the white skinned Chinese types his eyes widened and he was surprised. He then asked us why white guys like girls that look like monkeys. We laughed, but it is true.[/QUOTE]I am puzzled. You could be living in Beijing, Shang Hai, or Guangzhou.
Personally I find a very small portion of Chinese girls to be really attractive, and very white skin is not a requirement. I find that many Chinese girls have a very straight figure lacking curves. If they are taller and slim they can look like lady boys. Most have flat or saggy asses. I find many have overly round or puffy faces. Less than 5 in a hundred of Chinese girls look good to me. Better looking Chinese girls tend to come from Singapore to my taste.
Why would you compare Thai girls to monkeys? Monkeys have a lot of hair and very wrinkly skin and lacking flesh on the face. I am not keen on very flat noses or nose jobs that could be then thought of as monkey like, if you really stretch the imagination.
Maybe its a naughty demeanour that would make us think of a monkey.
I would take a Chiang Rai girl any day over a Chinese.
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[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1447911]However I have to agree that generally you do get a higher percentage of good performers from non go-go venues.[/QUOTE]I can't even agree with that. There are a lot of dud performers in the Soapies and Oilies unless going to very special places or with your regular girls.
I am getting great advice from go-go bar staff that know me well, and even get advice from other girls. This advice is usually more valuable than what we get at Soapies from papasans / mamasans.
In the bar we a lot of time available to properly sus-out girls, which ones are fun, before making a decision. How can this result in picking out generally bad performers? Very few, if any, lesbian show performers turn out to be poor performers in the Hotel room.
Okay I am not criticising you since I know you are a fun guy, but I challenge the assumptions from guys in general that we cannot easily get fun bar girls. A lot of bar girls are party animals and like to have a fun wild time. I do have to watch out that girls do not take too much alcohol though.
I have a strong suspicion that guys struggle with bar-girls because they go to the wrong bar, pick the wrong types of girl, spend insufficient time with girls first before bar-fining, and lastly may be too stingy, putting girls in the wrong frame of mind. I am not looking for a bargain basement fuck, but more for a fun time. Girls sense this easily and do not even discuss the price.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1448126]I am puzzled. You could be living in Beijing, Shang Hai, or Guangzhou.
Personally I find a very small portion of Chinese girls to be really attractive, and very white skin is not a requirement. I find that many Chinese girls have a very straight figure lacking curves. If they are taller and slim they can look like lady boys. Most have flat or saggy asses. I find many have overly round or puffy faces. Less than 5 in a hundred of Chinese girls look good to me. Better looking Chinese girls tend to come from Singapore to my taste.
Why would you compare Thai girls to monkeys? Monkeys have a lot of hair and very wrinkly skin and lacking flesh on the face. I am not keen on very flat noses or nose jobs that could be then thought of as monkey like, if you really stretch the imagination.
Maybe its a naughty demeanour that would make us think of a monkey.
I would take a Chiang Rai girl any day over a Chinese.[/QUOTE]I'd prefer living in Thailand or Singapore over China. More freedoms. Safer. Better infrastructure, Westernization & P4P industries for farangs.
I'm sure I'd find only a small percentage of ladies from any country to be "really attractive" or stunning, Thailand included.
I doubt that I could distinguish some P4P TGs I've penetrated from a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indo, Viet or even Russian. TGs, even P4P at NCP, come in many different looks.
White skin is not a "requirement" but certainly a plus that attracts me. Others things being equal, I think it's the almost snow white ones I like the best, such as you see on a Hong Kong 141 site.
In Geylang in Singapore for a few weeks now I often see white skinned PRC & Vietnam street sex workers. In years in BKK I don't recall ever noticing any white skinned P4P gals in the NEP area. There are BTW also reports of white Chiang Mai girls in Geylang brothels.
Re monkeys IME that's what a number of P4P Thai girls call a guy with hair on his chest. I've read that certain Thais also refer to other Thais as monkeys. Perhaps a reference to their non white or relatively darker skin? The sun has it's effect on TGs who work the rice fields north of BKK. But surely you don't find their fat wide noses attractive?
Thermae certainly has some hot ladies, though I don't recall ever seeing any white ones there, only various degrees of the usual Thai tanned skin. Too bad they are not interested in farangs. Other than the NCP, where in BKK could you find girls that look that good & would be happy to be with a foreigner?
Allegedly old poster OTH had one such SYT even living with him & recieving virtually nothing in return and, of course, sexing the old guy too! Or so the story was told on ISG. If you believe in Santa Claus, eh? And of course some of his students were asking to bang him, too. I wonder if Opebo gets that.
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Interesting readings.
A lot of the latest posters touch the real nerve regarding having a blast in BKK. It should be a "walk in the park" realy and on my behalf it almost allways is (bare once again in mind I in general do not visit GoGo, BeerBars, MP`s). I combine my mongering with freelancepickups and rugular none P4P girls but I think many of the same factors come into play dealing with women no matter what. My reason for not doing girls from the above mentioned is all about the setting created by dealing with mama / papasans and more this "I buy you you come with me" feel. I like to play my own headgame and pretend the freelancegirl choose to come with me out of her own will and not because there are lack of opertunities for her as I mostly meet my gems in crowded nightclubs. But there are ofcourse exceptions also for me and atleast two of you have seen me in a GoGo with the additional not so successful BF and take out (the girl was pretty though but I did a realy bad interview and did not do my usual "thing" good enough).
For me it is obvious that creating good mood and find someone you click together with (chemistry) is the most important factors for the hole "deal". I am by far a cheapskate as I also find spending some money in a club, bying drinks (getting the girl tipsy and myself I might add) realy to pay off when sexercise starts. I would say chemistry chemistry chemistry are the main 3 factors and after that all the rest comes. I also like clubbing and don't mind invest some time in a club accompanied by a often a pretty girl. Ofcourse at an earlier stage the girls looks, body, tits etc are allready screened. I am not so bad in creating a good environment both me and the girl feel comfortable in. I can tell from a few hundred freelancers over the years that most of them are up for a good time as well for the obvious (earning that extra buck). From what I can see sometimes bringing friends or watching other mongerers at the nextside table I see guys treat girls badly and cheap. I see on the girls face they would rather be somewhere else and atleast not where they are at the moment (this can ofcourse be girls who are barfined girls or are under other leasing agreements as freelancer just can take their purse and leave).
I have gotten bad comments from other mongerers bcs my table looks so funny (I often also invite "my" girls friends over as well as I know this will give the Thaigirl good standing and also pay off at the end) and they react on my spendings and bottleservice. The mongerer reacting are cheapskates and feel I put them in a bad light (bad for them). I know many thinks that big spendings infront of girls makes them expect more compensation but I have never had a girl leave my room not smiling (if they act or not I don't know). If I compensate them with 2, 3.4 or 5K does not seem to matter. I never discuss money upfront and since the girls come with me anyway I guess they trust they get something out of it. The only thing I maby throw in during clubplay performingwice is if the girl will allow some backdoor entry (often with the use of humor but I am dead serious, hehe) and most are actually ok with this even if many just trying to laugh it away in the club. Except from that I don't throw a big list of things I expect a girl to do with me in her face. Once again I strongly believe chemistry and having a good time as well (talking and laughing is all there is to it realy) realy make the girl to walk that extra mile. Ofcourse every girl is different and some are good in bed and some are not (I am not an expert myself but I feel I start to get a hang of it). All we can ask for is that they try their best. For the record I allways try to stay well groomed, nicely dressed, clean and well behaved. It is all LT play we talk about here and sometimes the LT can be far to long(good chemistry is not all good, hehe).
I have a feeling maby some punters allways complaining that BKK is so bad these days, girls willing to this or that are so few these days, that the problem is not realy on the girl but on the punter. Maby they have more of this "I bought you you better perform"attitude, I don't know (I avvoid this attitude at all costs)?
And to the new [url]WWW[/url] Poster. Great post. Through this you have realy gotten yourself a hardlearned education. I early found out that it is not the brightest thing to do letting a tuktuk or shady taxidrivers decide where you should go. For me I have bought my fair shares of ties as taxidrivers took me to some tailors and tuktuks drove me to some shady brothels (happens worldwide). When I was a mongerfreshman I ended up with a LB in my room so yes I support you and have almost been there or worse.
I guess Streetwalker/Harold will react(he usually does) so I throw in while i am at it; yes I play by the same rules for a Beergarden girl even if that is only for ST purposes(some chemistry here will also do the session good). Mostly used afternoons(when LT girl heads for home) or before eveningclubbing(release pressure in little Johnny).
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Clarification. I don't think going ugly guarantees good performance. Different dynamics. LOL.
They know they ugly, they get less money, they get less attention-all must result in poor performance. Or on the other hand. They may try harder.
In conclusion. Who knows who gives good performance. To be truthful-I don't know. You just have to try those you are attracted to.
One common theme in my good agogo barfines. They all let me feel their nipples in the bar. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1448126]I am puzzled. You could be living in Beijing, Shang Hai, or Guangzhou.
Personally I find a very small portion of Chinese girls to be really attractive, and very white skin is not a requirement. I find that many Chinese girls have a very straight figure lacking curves. If they are taller and slim they can look like lady boys. Most have flat or saggy asses. I find many have overly round or puffy faces. Less than 5 in a hundred of Chinese girls look good to me. Better looking Chinese girls tend to come from Singapore to my taste.
Why would you compare Thai girls to monkeys? Monkeys have a lot of hair and very wrinkly skin and lacking flesh on the face. I am not keen on very flat noses or nose jobs that could be then thought of as monkey like, if you really stretch the imagination.
Maybe its a naughty demeanour that would make us think of a monkey.
I would take a Chiang Rai girl any day over a Chinese.[/QUOTE]Problem with living in China is that you are living amongst Chinese. No way.
The stunning Chinese gals can be the prettiest on the planet, but you are right, there are a lot of tree climbers there. Also hygiene is a bit suspect when compared to Thai gals. Curvy? I have seen plenty of curvy Chinese gals. Depends on the region of course. If you like curvy Indonesia is the place. Scads of Hourglass figures there.
Chiang Rai? Then you do have Chinese leaning tastes and Northern girls tend to have fairer skin.
I find many NE gals with high cheekbones and square jaws to be very simian in appearance. Found 'them attractive when I moved here, but now can't understand why. Guess my eyes work now. Of course the Thai TV stars are insanely attractive. Just compare their faces to what you see in Nana or on Cowboy. Central, Northern, or Southern Thai girls are very attractive in my eyes. Southern girls tend to have big eyes and Malay features. A bit darker than girls from the North, but I can overlook that for the amazing facial structure and more voluptuous body.
Well, as they say, to each his own!
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1448091]Totally agree. Been here for a decade as an expat and the bars, massage, the whole scene gets old very fast. I never liked the bars to begin with but now you have to really drag me there. Also, the little immature Monkey-like girls and their attitude just aggravates the hell out of me. When I see how some girls talk to Tourists, I can't help but laugh at how fucking dickless these idiots are. I bet you if these same girls would raise their voices to a Thai guy they'd end being severely beaten.
As for the food, well, sure thai food is good as far as middle class goes but there ain't nothing fancy about Thai Cuisine. I eat it every day though but it's more our of convenience than anything else.
Still, a very good life here and I would really recommend it as a place to live but just one thing to keep in mind: Thais don't like Foreigners, we are guests here and could be kicked out at any time.[/QUOTE]So well stated Nic. Agree with you almost 100. Well, except on the food. BKK has become a bit of a foodie paradise in the past few years with plenty of higher end places if one so desires.
I feel the same way when I am in any bar area. Amazing to see a not so attractive gal with a 6th grade "edumacation" leading guys around by their genitals and treating them with extreme disrespect.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1448066]Absolutely right. It amazes me how many guys here on the forum apparently are having a tough time finding the love in BKK. It seems to me they don't know how to relate to a BKK girl, professional or amateur. Some guys appear to have no game, no personality. They just expect great sex out of thin air. Some guys are way too tight about money and hate spending any amount of baht on a few extra ladies drinks or paying the going rate for a ST shag. Loosen up on the money belt. If necessary shag less in order to better afford to shag better. And I guess still other guys don't know how to shag at all beyond the basics and think the harder the better. I consider myself pretty much an average to slightly above average western man in looks, personality, intelligence, finances, sexual ability, hygiene and I have no problem finding delightful willing BKK working girls everywhere I look. The problem in BKK and Pattaya is there are too many good ones not too few. Too much GFE not too little. After I am in town a few days, I start to receive texts from 4 or 5 of my current favorite girls every day, several times per day, asking the standard question,"are you coming to see me tonight? I wait for you!" Bla Bla bla. It is hard to make time for everybody and still have time to meet great new girls. I only have so much vital personal fluids to go around. There is only 24 hours in a day. I have to sleep sometime. Two girls a day is the most I can handle before I soon run out of power. A girl a day is my usual pace. That leaves hundreds of wonderfully qualified girls lacking my personal attention. Damn!
So here is my advice to those that haven't found the love in BKK: if you are having a hard time with the Thai girls look introspectively at what you are doing, be honest with yourself, find the problem, and fix it. Complaining about the rotten quality or the girl's atitude is easier, but it won't help you. Start with 1. Be prepared to spend a little money. Money lubricates the system and makes everything work properly. Don't be tight. You don't have to be crazy either 2. Be nice to the girls. It is common sense. You want to have a good time. So do they. Make them smile and laugh. Put them at ease. Sure, we all know they are prostitutes, so what. If a girl likes you she is going to show you a much better time then if she just considers you a task to get over with. DUH! When a Thai girl likes you, ST is 3 or 4 hours and she is not in a hurry to get back to the bar. LT is until 1pm. 2pm or until she has to get ready to go back to work. I like spending time with my girls. I take them out to dinner and they turn me on to interesting restaurants I wouldn't ordinarily have found. I like barhopping with them after shagging. Drinking too much beforehand is bad for sex. 3. Learn how to fuck. This is important. Most of the internet porno stuff is bullshit. Learn what really turns on a girl and do it. Hint: it is not about jamming her until it hurts. I don't know about you, but turning a pretty Asian girl on turns me on. 4. Practice good hygiene. Thai girls are among the cleanest, most hygienic girls I have ever met.
OK that's about all I have to say. I love BKK and always have a great time here. I find current 2010-2013 BKK girls are some of the best sex partners I have ever had. If some of you don't share my opinion, that's fine. There are a lot of other places you can go. Try Rio, Medellin, Sao Paulo, Jakarta, the PI, Germany, Prague. But I think you will find BKK girls are among the best.[/QUOTE]Natty I think the difference lies in one's reason for being here. So many guys come to BKK to "date" prostitutes, something I understand but it really not for me. I came to "f*ck" prostitutes. I have no desire to wine and dine or hang out with a girl who has very little to offer in the way of interaction besides drinking and sex. I prefer to drink with folks I can interact with, and yes some of those folks are Thai. Romancing a working girl is something that holds absolutely no interest to me.
I am very polite to working girls, respect their boundaries, and would never raise my voice to one; however, that is where it stops. I don't want to go out partying with one and truth be told, I don't know many long term residents that do.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1448227]I am very polite to working girls, respect their boundaries, and would never raise my voice to one; however, that is where it stops. I don't want to go out partying with one and truth be told, I don't know many long term residents that do.[/QUOTE]Ahh we have common ground here. Guys who date prostitutes are just deceiving themselves. They doing what we all do: Pay hookers. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1448066]Absolutely right. It amazes me how many guys here on the forum apparently are having a tough time finding the love in BKK. It seems to me they don't know how to relate to a BKK girl, professional or amateur. Some guys appear to have no game, no personality. They just expect great sex out of thin air. Some guys are way too tight about money and hate spending any amount of baht on a few extra ladies drinks or paying the going rate for a ST shag. Loosen up on the money belt. If necessary shag less in order to better afford to shag better. And I guess still other guys don't know how to shag at all beyond the basics and think the harder the better. I consider myself pretty much an average to slightly above average western man in looks, personality, intelligence, finances, sexual ability, hygiene and I have no problem finding delightful willing BKK working girls everywhere I look...[/QUOTE]If you want us to be impressed you need to give prices and photos.
Guys who are into quamtity can't be possibly doing girls that are good to look at. LOL.
Its great what you do! Keep it up!