[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]You had 6 orgasms? Cialis gives you the ability to have a hard on but...............[/QUOTE]
Wait till his mother finds out that he is treating his body like it was an amusement park!
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[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]You had 6 orgasms? Cialis gives you the ability to have a hard on but...............[/QUOTE]
Wait till his mother finds out that he is treating his body like it was an amusement park!
I also go for the enthusiastic type since they normally provide better service although this is not always the case. I don't think less enthusiastic it has anything to do with being forced into it. I think it is just different personalities. I've often had great service from shy girls, as well. I am not certain there are as many BBS girls kept as sex slaves as you guys might imagine. I see many girls come in and try it for a day or so and leave if they can't cut it.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Juno Audio]Bnlee2,
You are right in saying that many of the girls are too embarrass to tell you they were tricked into it. It's a sad truth and there is nothing we can do but to look the other way. We don't have enough money to send everyone of them home, nor can we stop these kind of things from happening to others by doing so.
Now when I pick someone in a BBS, I tend to choose those who are enthusiastic, at least this makes me feel better knowing the chances are they were not forced into it.
JA[/QUOTE]
Hi Gents,
Just wanted to say a big Hi to all on the forum and that I am very impressed with the quality of reports and information one can find here. I'm a bit new to the "mongering" game to be honest. With my company I get to travel a fair bit and Shenzhen is a new destination which started in late 06. Didn't really know what to expect from China on a whole to be honest as heard mixed reports etc etc as you do. Have been there 3 times now since Oct 06 and have to say really enjoy the place. We have an apartment in Sekiou (water world) so find that interesting. Have been to a couple of KTV's since being there but did not know this forum was around to find out all the good places etc. Went to Las Vegas (others I forget as was with local guy) and found that not too bad.
I really look forward to hopefully meeting up with some of the members at some point when you are in town to learn from some of the experts. Likely to be there first week of April and hope to have a look around between work for a couple of weeks. Any advice or good tips would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
Mattoz.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I also go for the enthusiastic type since they normally provide better service although this is not always the case. I don't think less enthusiastic it has anything to do with being forced into it. I think it is just different personalities. I've often had great service from shy girls, as well. I am not certain there are as many BBS girls kept as sex slaves as you guys might imagine. I see many girls come in and try it for a day or so and leave if they can't cut it.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Agreed, I know many who are just lazy and this is easy money for them, so they say. I knew a massage girl, named Ping-Ping, wrote about her in an old report of mine, who said she made 8,000 a month doing FS massages and turning tricks on the side. Pretty good living for a 19 year old.
-SZE
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I just don't think about it either. I've heard so many stories over the years, some of them true, others just bullshit to get sympathy, that I don't pay any attention anymore. I just go for the service and don't want to hear about it. You just take the good with the bad.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]Words of Wisdom from a wise friend of mine:
“You cannot save the world!”
My Addition to his words; “As long as you do not makes it worst, that is enough.”
AG
[QUOTE=Szexpat]Agreed, I know many who are just lazy and this is easy money for them, so they say. I knew a massage girl, named Ping-Ping, wrote about her in an old report of mine, who said she made 8,000 a month doing FS massages and turning tricks on the side. Pretty good living for a 19 year old.
-SZE[/QUOTE]Here is another version of the story from the other side:
Some of these girls are lazy, greedy, or just love living a life filled with "wants". Working in KTV provide them with money to do what they can never thought of doing back in their own village. They can buy things they like without hesitiation, gamble as much as they wanted, eat good food, and the list goes on and on....
If sleeping with men helps them to achieve their goal why not? Just put up with the shame in this town and when they move on to another city, nobody know them.
The above story was told to me by Foot Massage girls from CP. However they also told me; they reason why they are still foot massage girls, making around 1000 / mth is because they cannot get over the shame part.
I think like in any countries in the world, there are all sorts of girls, some are willing to do it, some are not. Some are forced into it, some did it willingly.
So, as I posted: You cannot save the world, as long as you do not makes it worst, that's enough.
AG
OAH, Szexpat,
I guess we will never know how many of them are willing participants and how many are not. But once they see how much money they can make, it's hard to say no to it. I've already seen a few came back after they told me they will quit, because they couldn't find anything else to do back at their village that is so lucrative.
JA
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]So, as I posted: You cannot safe the world, as long as you do not makes it worst, that's enough.
AG[/QUOTE]
AG, this is not meant to be a rebuttal. I just thought your statement of "as long as you do not make it worse, that's enough" was a bit funny to me. Because to me this business of prostitution is one of supply and demand, so to not make it worse, I would have to remove myself from it, by participating, I've added one more demand into the equation.
Maybe your meaning of making it worse is different from mine.
JA
[QUOTE=Juno Audio]AG, this is not meant to be a rebuttal. I just thought your statement of "as long as you do not make it worse, that's enough" was a bit funny to me. Because to me this business of prostitution is one of supply and demand, so to not make it worse, I would have to remove myself from it, by participating, I've added one more demand into the equation.
Maybe your meaning of making it worse is different from mine.
JA[/QUOTE]
Just to let you know that we are not the main customers for the girls in China. We are such a low number. My suggesting is that just treat the girl nice so she feels better being with you than with another customer.
I also have heard girls being tricked into coming to SZ. However a lot of girls do this on their own. They may be tricked into coming to SZ on promise of big money, when they get here they find out that there is no such job. They are then forced to make a decision to go home without any money in shame or go into the business. This is why a lot of girls do this for a few months and then leave. If you are in China long enough you will find that most girls will not work for more than 6 months or so. Try and find the same girl that you saw last year and see what happens.
Yes there are girls forced into sex trade (just like in any country) however most of the girls do this on their own because it is the fastest way to make the most amount of money.
[QUOTE=Juno Audio]AG, this is not meant to be a rebuttal. I just thought your statement of "as long as you do not make it worse, that's enough" was a bit funny to me. Because to me this business of prostitution is one of supply and demand, so to not make it worse, I would have to remove myself from it, by participating, I've added one more demand into the equation.
Maybe your meaning of making it worse is different from mine.
JA[/QUOTE]Think of it from another angle, CSUN is right; we are only a very small part of the equation. Prostitution in China is a very old trade, a few hundred years old. We are not going to make any difference even all of us foreigners do not “participate” in “buying”.
What I meant in “as long as we do not make it worst is enough” was; sometimes in the process of helping the girls we might makes the situation worst for them. For example; by giving them extra money or helping them escape, we cannot assure them of their safety. What if they are caught by the pimps or what if the pimps go back to their hometown and spread the news that they are working as prostitutes?
Sorry for any mis-understanding.
AG
I have spoken to many over the years. Almost all have come from rural areas where there is not a whole lot to do. The alternatives are also stark. I think the mongering scene has another 10-15 years in its present form. When the countryside has its GDP raised 4 times, the supply will dwindle and become more expensive. Also there will be plenty of takers from the excess of local males. In fact, there will be sex tour groups to Thailand, Philippines, Burma etc.
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy] When the countryside has its GDP raised 4 times, the supply will dwindle and become more expensive.[/QUOTE]
This will surely take a while, though.
Actually, an ample supply of new, cheap, young labor is entering the Asian talent pool every year. No need to short your Pfizer stocks yet.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]This will surely take a while, though.
Actually, an ample supply of new, cheap, young labor is entering the Asian talent pool every year. No need to short your Pfizer stocks yet.[/QUOTE]
China's economy is growing at 10 % compound. Population control took hold when Mao began to loose his marbles. A combination of greater prosperity and fewer young will lead to the whole scene changing. I suspect the pricing will be the first to reflect this.
Most girls seem to have one or more siblings. They don't appear to be as strict in the countryside.
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]China's economy is growing at 10 % compound. Population control took hold when Mao began to loose his marbles. A combination of greater prosperity and fewer young will lead to the whole scene changing. I suspect the pricing will be the first to reflect this.[/QUOTE]
I noticed the Apple Bar in Shekou has closed down. It's a pity, because I was able to pick up some nice girls from there, as shown in the photo.