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[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1544826]Club entries in NRW can be much cheaper than FRA clubs which is why you will see most NRW guys being able to go to 2-3 clubs a day whereas many FRA guys visit only 1 club per day. The GT / LR combo for 95 euro is a great deal. Another example is DV before 2, then to ACA after 9 pm for 65 euro is another option.
Extras like CIM, COB, anal, etc. Is generally half in NRW if those are your thing. Because of this many NRW girls don't even do extras.[/QUOTE]NRW clubs do have their happy hours but FRA clubs have their VIP pass's that discount the entrance price, pretty much matching up the cost of entrance fee's. You can hop around between two of these three clubs for 100 euro's: mainhattan, sharks, world. Also clubs in NRW usually close much earlier (1am) compared to (4am) FRA clubs with the exception of Aca.
Also, girls will without flawless bodies will try to cover up their shortcomings in NRW so the chances of picking a girl with saggy breasts or stretch marks is slightly higher than FRA. They can't do that if they are in the Fkk clubs in FRA.
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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1544852]Also clubs in NRW usually close much earlier (1am) compared to (4am) FRA clubs with the exception of Aca.
Also, girls will without flawless bodies will try to cover up their shortcomings in NRW so the chances of picking a girl with saggy breasts or stretch marks is slightly higher than FRA. They can't do that if they are in the Fkk clubs in FRA.[/QUOTE]Golden Time closes at 1 am, except on Fri-Sat at 2 am. Livingroom closes at 3 am, except on Fri-Sat and party-days at 5 am. Magnum closes at 5 am, except on Fri-Sat at 7 am, so you will find things to do in NRW until the morning if you so desire.
I can't really see a significant difference in girl optics between Fra and NRW, you find steaming hot girls in both areas. In NRW the supply of extras (CIM, Anal) are a bit more limited.
For the first time FKK-monger both areas offer overwhelming experiences, no need to try to cover both Fra and NRW unless you have a lot of time or have to visit both areas for other reasons. Anywhere else in the western world any club most often mentioned in this thread would be THE place to go, without competition. The FKK / Sauna-club concept is just superb.
Fuck-on.
PH
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So after reading all your reports I have made a shortlist for me because I will have 4 or 5 days and my general practice is to go to FKK one day and give one day break (Please tell me yours).
PH and Banana really had a good perspective.
I am convinced that to cover either FRA or NRW in each travel is better idea for a short travel. I will probably go to FRA but NRW is still a possibility because it's economical. I can land to Dusseldorf or FRA with same cost and in NRW hotel cost can be lower.
For my off days FRA will give me much more fun; museums, night clubs, restaurants and NRW will give less.
My list is as follows; (Your comments will be appreciated.)
FRA.
Oase.
World.
Sharks.
NRW.
Golden Time (I have low chance to enter since I am Turkish)
LR.
SAMYA
Nudity.
I think opposite of you for this. Generally I prefer to see lightly weared women. I would be happy with a skirt even because being whole naked killing all the magic of it. Moreover I am a big fan of sexy underwears, stockings especially the jean shorts. But I also agree with people think girl being totally naked will prevent to see a bad surprise in the zimmer. Just my two cents.
Facility.
When I ask you to compare I mean in all manners and of course quality of girls is big part of this evaluation but also if you will stay there for hours (that's what I do) it will make you feel good to be in a large and luxurious facility. You can flirt with them in everywhere and see some beauties behind the door or wall and crashing them surprisingly on the hallway is smt that I like. I want to make a second visit and enjoy the open door area of these clubs in summer but recently I guess having a great outdoor area means nothing for a FKK.
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[QUOTE=Pizda Hut;1544862]Golden Time closes at 1 am, except on Fri-Sat at 2 am. Livingroom closes at 3 am, except on Fri-Sat and party-days at 5 am. Magnum closes at 5 am, except on Fri-Sat at 7 am, so you will find things to do in NRW until the morning if you so desire.[/QUOTE]Also, DV and Mondial are open til 3 am (5 am on weekends) , Samya says 3 am on weekends but it's really 4 am most of the time, PHG is 3 am on weekends but the party moves to ByNight open til 5 am. The difference is I always found NRW clubs to still be rocking til close whereas many FRA clubs die down an hour or so before closing.
One of the major reasons I prefer NRW over FRA is that I find it quite a struggle to find FRA clubs with lots of hot girls before 5 pm. In NRW I could walk in to GT, DV, and most of the time ACA early in the afternoon and be quite happy with the lineup.
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FFM to Oase
Hi guys,
Not long till my solo trip next week. 25th to 28th. From Scotland. Happy to meet for a beer. PM me.
Easiest and cheapest way to get from Frankfurt city centre to Oase?
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1544969]For my off days FRA will give me much more fun; museums, night clubs, restaurants and NRW will give less.
My list is as follows; (Your comments will be appreciated.)
FRA: Oase, World, Sharks,
NRW: Golden Time (I have low chance to enter since I am Turkish) , LR, SAMYA[/QUOTE]Museums, restaurants, WTF? Are you bringing your girlfriend? Or your mother? I thought you wanted to see Fra or NRW because of the clubs and girls. For tourist attractions I would choose Dusseldorf or Cologne over Frankfurt every time. As a city Fra is as interesting as porridge.
Your list looks just fine. I see Turkish guys every time I visit GT. They come well dressed, business or business casual, and are behaving calm and normal. The guys that come in bigger groups, look like they think they are world-owning bad-asses or are acting overly lively are denied entry. Just keep in mind that this is no basar and you will be ok. On the other hand if you have done nothing else in your life than trained in a gym and are tattooed from toe to neck, well, then go to another place.
Fuck-on.
PH
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1544969]So after reading all your reports I have made a shortlist for me because I will have 4 or 5 days and my general practice is to go to FKK one day and give one day break (Please tell me yours).[/QUOTE]My two cents. Drop GT in favor of Planet Happy Garden (PHG). It's closer to Living Room anyways. Just hit PHG first since it closes earlier (although you do have By Night just next door with free entry if you enter via the connected back entry). GT not only bars certain types of guys but also under 21 girls, so that's reason enough to avoid that place not to mention the other disadvantages (for example, gaytime).
Also recommend dropping "museums." I've been there. Worse FKK ever! Couldn't get laid there despite my best efforts. Maybe you will have better luck there.
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1545005]My two cents. Drop GT in favor of Planet Happy Garden (PHG). It's closer to Living Room anyways. Just hit PHG first since it closes earlier (although you do have By Night just next door with free entry if you enter via the connected back entry).[/QUOTE]When were you last at PHG. If recently an update would be greatly appreciated. So the back entry is open again? When I was last there is was fenced off and ByNight was only accessible by the front door.
[QUOTE=Pizda Hut;1544999]. For tourist attractions I would choose Dusseldorf or Cologne over Frankfurt every time. As a city Fra is as interesting as porridge.[/QUOTE]
Those were my thoughts exactly. I was a bit surprised when Iceberg said he wanted to be in FRA to sightsee and go to dance clubs. Cologne is a million times nicer.
Iceberg, if you are Turkish you really should consider Samya. Mondial, ACA, and Magnum. Mondial is about 80-90% Turkish customers and the other clubs are Turkish dominated as well, especially after 9 pm at ACA when the door fee drops to 30 euro.
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As I have said in other posts I plan on visiting LR, DV and maybe Magnum from April 4-11. DV looks like a really nice place from the website. What is the atmosphere during the evening at the saunaclubs? Is it a nightclub atmosphere where is it is packed shoulder to shoulder? How many guys on average are in these clubs in the evening?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=BBJ1980; 1544988]Hi guys,
Easiest and cheapest way to get from Frankfurt city centre to Oase?[/QUOTE]The easiest way is not the cheapest: Taxi.
Cheapest way: Walk or ride a bicycle.
Most feasible way: Take the S5 and then taxi.
The best way: Rent a car and drive yourself.
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There has been some posts regarding take-out in the FKK Sharks thread lately. I feel that the subject is better placed here. What I'm about to share has nothing to do with the girl in that topic this started from, I know her but have never tried to spend a day with her outside the club.
Take-out from a German FKK or sauna-club.
I have reasonable experience in the matter from a number of clubs, maybe with 15 girls and with a few of them I have done it more than once. The sum mentioned earlier, one kilo euro, is something you hear girls ask for a 'let's spend a day together' kind of experience. I have never paid anything even close to that, around half has been enough.
As background, as most of us know, many of the EE and especially the Romanian girls live their lives during their sort club-careers in the center of a shit-storm, walking from one 'situation' to another. Their families and most friends back home don't know what they are up to in Germany, and the girls want to keep it that way. Not to mention all the 'helpers' that you find in this scene. These facts put their marks on everything the girls do.
In which cases do I feel the desire to ask a girl to spend a day or days together? Well, first of all I need to know her rather well already; I would never ask a girl for an LT thing after one or a couple of sessions, no matter how good the sex and over-all experience has been. A day is a long time to spend with someone if you find out that you have nothing in common and nothing to talk about. Sex you can practice only so much, with that I can't fill even half a day. As a result of knowing the girl pretty well before take-out, I have been asked to pay at the start of the meeting only on one occasion, all others I have paid when dropping them off back at their place.
Secondly, I need to feel that the erotic experience would most probably get better if practised in the privacy of my hotel room, between clean sheets, as a result of the girl being more relaxed or a natural consequence of hour long non-physical foreplay earlier in the day, in restaurants or in town. In addition to the dimension of sex getting better when you have to wait a while before.
Then there is also the non-sexual dimension of wanting to know the real woman behind the pro a little bit better and this is easier outside the club.
Then the reasons why not to take-out some girl. I would never ask anyone to spend a longer time with me if I wouldn't be very sure that she would relax and enjoy herself with me. If it is only for sure money, then better not, better meet her in the club only. She does not have to act as an in-love girlfriend when staying with me, but if I can't imagine her holding my hand walking in Dusseldorf Altstadt or leaning her head against my shoulder in the escalator of My Zeil, then she is not for me, I'll bonk her in the club only. This, of course, has a big impact on the price the girl is asking for, since if staying with someone almost feels like being on a day-off, then the price is surely more moderate, no one can work every day anyway.
The one thousand euro price level mentioned earlier, is something you hear from the girls, however many of the girls are very inexperienced in real escorting outside the club. They have heard this price from other girls. Many of the girls that have gone out with me have had very minor experience or have been on their first take-out-trip with me. From this I draw the conclusion that take-out isn't that common. Some of the girls that have accepted a much more moderate price level have been real stunners, certainly in the top 10% of the club, as always; IMHO.
Following the above mentioned guide-lines, I have had many memorable experiences, with many girls in Germany. But as always, at end of the day, everyone drinks his own poison. Serious emotional hang-over is always a risk in this game.
Fuck-on.
PH
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[QUOTE=Pizda Hut; 1545165]Serious emotional hang-over is always a risk in this game.
PH[/QUOTE]My heart is aching. With the same pain my friend. My heart is aching with the same pain. I had so very much decided on not to let this hangover come over me. Still the inevitable happened. And I am not in Europe so can be very expensive affair for me travelling just for a girl that too when she is a pro!
There were a couple of girls I met who genuinely wanted to make you feel good and happy! These girls kind of touched my heart! Can't just get her out of my mind! Someone please get me out of this LOL!
Dude are you a poet or something you just sounded like an poet just like an artist who describes his artistry. Well said!
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Where are your reports?
[QUOTE=AugustYa; 1545205]My heart is aching. With the same pain my friend. My heart is aching with the same pain. I had so very much decided on not to let this hangover come over me. Still the inevitable happened. And I am not in Europe so can be very expensive affair for me travelling just for a girl that too when she is a pro!
There were a couple of girls I met who genuinely wanted to make you feel good and happy! These girls kind of touched my heart! Can't just get her out of my mind! Someone please get me out of this LOL!
Dude are you a poet or something you just sounded like an poet just like an artist who describes his artistry. Well said![/QUOTE]I see you are back with comments, but I missed your reports. Kindly post links to any reports- not comments or questions.
Danke.
Rick
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[QUOTE=Diet Coke; 1545342]I see you are back with comments, but I missed your reports. Kindly post links to any reports- not comments or questions.
Danke.[/QUOTE]About 14 posts below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area!&p=1544822#post1544822
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Thanks BB
[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1545345]About 14 posts below.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area[/url]! P=1544822#post1544822[/QUOTE]I missed that one, it would have been helpful in more info on girls you were with such as more descriptions and names.