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[QUOTE=Balboa;2159597]I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.
Plus it makes me feel good.[/QUOTE]I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.
To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159637]I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.
To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.[/QUOTE]My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.
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Right on.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2159597]I'm sure your system works.
And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.
I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.
Plus it makes me feel good.
Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.
If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.
Motivation.
I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.
It's not mine.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.
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Tipping
Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.
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So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?
In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US [B]still[/B] tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.
Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't [B]they[/B] have empathy for [B]me[/B] and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.
I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.
So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2159680]I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.[/QUOTE]This is bull, and if it were true, it would be 'teps. ' You would give extra money, in theory, to [B]en[/B]sure proper or prompt service.
[URL]http://www.word-detective.com/2011/03/tip/[/URL]
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Tipping
[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159694]Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.[/QUOTE]I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitación is basically just that nada más. The lady gets little. I have vowed on my next trips to include a 50 k propinita to the lady.
It's just me.
Comment from another about post that says the ladies don't remember. They do. Some anyway. ON my first visit to Fase II I pulled Giselle. Young blond. Fake blond but, cute. Next 2 times I got waylaid by a brunette spinner that did great things for me an my 4th trip, Giselle. From my first trip. Found me and chatted me up all night. I bought her some many drinks that when it came time to pay for the habitación, I didn't have enough for the habitación so, the generous tip afterward wouldn't have happened. Oh well, a fun night tipping dancers and buying and playing with Giselle on the floor.
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[QUOTE=MtnBoy49;2159699]I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitacin is basically just that nada ms. [/QUOTE]So $75 US for a room for an hour in a third world country. OK. So tip her $18 US for an hour of work in country where the minimum wage is around $300 a month, or less than $2 an hour. And in the US a line cook makes $12 an hour for sweating his ass off at a dangerous job. I am just not able to make a lot of sense out of that. But that's just me. We could move the tipping discussion to chit chat if anyone wants to continue it.
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[QUOTE=Bdb013;2159657]My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.[/QUOTE]And does your daddy know what happens when you go to Japan and tip for good service? You insult the person.
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[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159694]Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.[/QUOTE]There's a voluntary 10% tip at nice restaurants. It's not mandatory (kind of like the US), but I was told that everyone does it (just like the US). But I noticed that people will take the coin from the tray, leaving only exactly 10%, while people in the US will hardly ever take the remaining change. The waiter will ask you if it is ok to put the tip on the bill.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159695]Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.[/QUOTE]I completely understand tipping a hooker to perform a service she would not rather do. My guess is that most girls don't like to perform CIM, lesbian, rimming for their clients for the standard price. Am I on a power trip? Maybe. LOL!
Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? That has not been my experience in the low or mid level places. Or is that because I'm an obvious foreigner? Haven't picked up in the high end strip joints yet. When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)
I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.
But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud;2159717]When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)
I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.
But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.[/QUOTE]And that is what makes the shit laughable. I was in a Santa Fe casa Sunday night and paid 20 K for FS and didn't even have to mention BBBJ; it was a given. Another punter comes along and pays 250% of what I did for a tip alone to have his johnson polished without a condom. Shit. How much was the payment before that 50 K shit came up? Makes me say hmmm.
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More Tipping
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.
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[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. [/QUOTE]Fucking gringos.
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[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.[/QUOTE]You can leave additional tip to the 10% (which is optional too). I sometimes leave a peso or two especially if its coins because it's a bigger hassle to carry the coins than to leave them. When paying by credit card it makes my life easier as I don't add anything additional other than the 10% servicio fee which is NOT required. You can ask them to take it off if you want but you look like a dick.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud;2159717]Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? [/QUOTE]I meant that they do it all the time with their boyfriends, husbands, etc.