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Tragic but
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2408543][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7842273/British-man-50-killed-trying-light-firework-Thailand-New-Years-Eve.html[/URL]
These fireworks are aimed at kids who don't have a lot of baht. I have met several missing arms from "accidents". Do not have anything to do with them. If you see people with them, walk away quickly. They are lethal.
Although I could write a hundred quips here, sarcasm does not look well on a tomb stone.[/QUOTE]Feel sorry for him and his family, but after watching the video I'm shocked. He bends over the firework while lighting it, a big no. Then after it catches fire, he still bends over it, because he thought it didn't catch fire properly. You're just asking for it at this point. Never mix alcohol and fireworks.
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Weird shit at the grocers
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2451488]Hey, if anyone knows the magic words to say or demeanor to project that will immediately and routinely turn the kind of Thai P4P girl XXL was introduced to by MP (Scratch that; The exact same girl) in Pattaya, Bangkok, anywhere and everywhere, who presumably regularly and often gets 3,000 baht for a one pop ST into a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time, I am more than interested and happy to hear about it and learn. Why not. SNIP[/QUOTE]It always seems as if another member such as XXL or FL Hawk mentions about a decent experience with a girl I set them up with, this guy here has something to say. And it's always about "well. If it's not BBFS + CIP then it's not worth mentioning. " Sometimes, I think, "Give it a rest and crawl back to whatever hole," but this is all entertainment. And some should keep entertaining us other ways, because it's obviously not from contributions and reviews of girls. Did I run into this somebody recently and made him mad? Just the other day, I was at 7-11 near Central Festival on Beach Road, and there was an older farrang gentleman in his mid to late 60's standing in front of the sandwich cooler, trying to figure out what he was going to eat. He pointed to these grilled cheese sandwiches that had yellow stickers on them showing 17.50 instead or the normal 35 baht, because he wasn't sure what it meant. I told him they were half off because they only had 2 days before expiration, but you can probably freeze them. He said thank you, but was too slow. I reached past him and grabbed both of the grilled cheese sandwiches that were discounted. The rest that was in the cooler were at full price. He looked at me baffled. Then, I saw my favorite CP Shrimp burgers (which are very difficult to find at most 7-11's). I turn to him and told him these were yummy as well. "Hey Mister, this is also a good choice too. " Gave him a sec to digest that. And then, I proceeded to take and buy all CP Shrimp burgers that was on the shelf. He took too long. This reminded me of the whole Monkeypaw and the Go Go bar girls thing. Went home, and wonder who was that guy and did that guy get upset?
P.S. Anybody knows why Villa Market always two prices for the same items in diff parts of the same store? Is this another Thailand scam?
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The Fallen
Today was first day of reopening of the malls. Central Festival had plenty of people, lots of window shoppers, but very few bought anything. Only about 70% of the store were open. 90% of the entire top floor of restaurants were closed and air conditioning was sporadic. To gain entry into the mall itself, you were required to scan QR code to an app or website for tracking. Odd thing is that you were required to do so again once you entered in certain retail shops, while others you were not. I'm thinking they are tracking the money and where it's being spent and using COVID-19 and an excuse. The country and the world is in a recession, the mall is a very expensive place to be during these times, especially for the Thais in Pattaya. Mall business was already bad before the lockdown, just the same as Walking Street, today was just out of excitement I believe. When restaurants were allowed to open, they had a rush. Mr. E was one of the lucky guy who was able to grab a seat at the patio of Prime Burger on Buakhao on its first few days of reopening. Now the patio is pretty much empty. Inside the restaurants at Central, the whole dining out experience was gone. Most restaurants were empty. Buffets closed. Coffee shops and ice cream shops, no sitting down and to go. The one with the moving belt full of hot pot items on plates, were sit far apart, no getting up and order from a menu like a normal sit down restaurant. It was so somber. Waiters acted like police, "no can't do this, no can't do that. " Minimal talking due to spread worries, screens separating people across from one another, and of course no loitering. You are expected to come in order, wait longer for food because staff shortages, eat, then pay your bill and leave. Reminds me of a bad experience with a mechanical starfish from agogo or something. How long will this last in Pattaya because guess what? Rent is still due and the experience or joy of dining out is pretty much gone at Central Festival.
On the way back, I saw the floor manager of Baccara. He used to be in charge of the male staff at Baccara and allowed me or those with me to take photos in the club. He is now selling meat skewers from a cart next the Bronx Pizza by the Slice on Buakhao (near LK Metro).
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[QUOTE=Jarlenm84;2410918]You're just asking for it at this point. Never mix alcohol and fireworks.[/QUOTE]True. Alcohol and explosives are much better.
[URL]https://youtu.be/nxAGSJzNLcI[/URL]
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If it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2451636]First you need the massage shops, bars and clubs to reopen. When and how this happens is anybody's guess but my gut tells me it's going to be slow, gradual, with seriously regulated limited opening and closing times. Maybe even with some cocked up social distancing guidelines inside although how that could work in a go go is beyond me. I chuckle imagining the girls mincing around the poles butt naked wearing only a mask and heels. Personally I love that eyes only look so could be a turn on. SNIP [/QUOTE]These places and Walking Street were opened prior to lockdown, but staff and customers was reduced by about 70-80% and many bars and clubs were already closed voluntarily by the owners. Only Billboard in BKK and Pin Up in Pattaya seemed to be doing okay prior to the lockdown. Even as of today, the government has allowed many or most places to open, but they still remain closed. So it goes back to the old aged question of chicken or the egg first, where is the supply, where is the demand? Regular tourism first before sex tourism (because Pattaya "Is not" Angeles City nor will the government ever allow it to be like AC). Food hand out lines daily that stretches blocks like a scene out of the great depression. Opening up venues that causes a country's money to be funneled through needless things like movies, bars, clubs, and massages while the rest of the country needs it appropriated elsewhere. Imagine you are a parent trying to control your family and kids spending during a time of hardship like this and you will understand more. When will international flights be allowed in and from what countries? When will other countries open their borders and airports? Basically, "walk backwards" the timeline that got Thailand where it is today, but with 3 super huge biggies that isn't going away anytime soon.
1. a world wide Coronavirus that has no vaccine (and may not ever).
2. a world-wide recession with a possibility of a depression.
3. and a failing USA economy battling a rebuilding China economy (choose a side carefully).
To be honest, with regards to Thailand, it had little to do with the health of the people. Research HIV and AIDS in Thailand or how many thousands died of TB last year in this country. If it makes money for the government, such as sex, prescription drugs on the street, counterfeit items, pornography, cannabis, alcohol and tobacco, Thailand will overlook it, even though the laws state otherwise. So this leads me to seriously believe this Coronavirus closure crap was due to the fear and exodus of tourists. The truth is, there were no customers on Walking Street. And the bars and clubs were not making any revenue with too many expenses including staff, police, and government payoffs, so they had to be shut down. No tourist groups renting jet skis, buying seafood, parachuting, or renting beach chairs, then the beaches stay shut down. Because the locals will just bring their own food and mats and leave a huge mess. But of course, the government will say "closure is to prevent spread of COVID-19. " People need to wake up and realize what it's always been about. Cash, it's what's for dinner.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2230953]I was told that medical marijuana is on the ballot and will be voted on in 2019. Maybe there is still hope.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Passed in November of last year. MP and my dad have an organization that is way ahead of the game. We had plan to buy up all Thailand's stock and convert it. Smoking is no good, it stinks, and messes up the environment.
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Coronavirus and WTF are you talking about!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_qX50zv7k[/URL]
No mo covid19.
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Washington post? Seriously? LOL
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=2452674&viewfull=1#post2452674[/URL]
Using Washington post to bash Trump? All they do is right crap about Right wing governments. You might have as well used Biden's tweets to prove your point.
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One good outcome from Covid-19?
I just heard on the news that the latest research suggests loud talking increases the spread of the virus through increased spewing of droplets that go along with it. More than from contact with contaminated surfaces. Which could explain why noisy environments like meat packing plants, conventions and crowded bars create Super Spreading conditions due to people needing to shout in order to be heard over the din.
When the beer bars, go-go bars and clubs do fully re-open, I hope the management will be required to keep the music down to a tolerable 4 or 5 instead of a head splitting 10 (or a Spinal Tap 11) for the sake of health safety, reducing the amount of shouting required between customers and staff and customer to customer as much as possible.
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Ahhhhhhhh
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2452755]I just heard on the news that the latest research suggests loud talking increases the spread of the virus through increased spewing of droplets that go along with it. More than from contact with contaminated surfaces. Which could explain why noisy environments like meat packing plants, conventions and crowded bars create Super Spreading conditions due to people needing to shout in order to be heard over the din.
When the beer bars, go-go bars and clubs do fully re-open, I hope the management will be required to keep the music down to a tolerable 4 or 5 instead of a head splitting 10 (or a Spinal Tap 11) for the sake of health safety, reducing the amount of shouting required between customers and staff and customer to customer as much as possible.[/QUOTE]Many (not all) FKKs play zen / spa like musik inside and in the gardens, I would say on 1 or 2.
Its heavenly, the loudest thing you will hear most days, is some WG moaning.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2452755]I just heard on the news that the latest research suggests loud talking increases the spread of the virus through increased spewing of droplets that go along with it. More than from contact with contaminated surfaces. Which could explain why noisy environments like meat packing plants, conventions and crowded bars create Super Spreading conditions due to people needing to shout in order to be heard over the din.
When the beer bars, go-go bars and clubs do fully re-open, I hope the management will be required to keep the music down to a tolerable 4 or 5 instead of a head splitting 10 (or a Spinal Tap 11) for the sake of health safety, reducing the amount of shouting required between customers and staff and customer to customer as much as possible.[/QUOTE]That sounds good to me! As it has been in the past, I get in, buy myself 1 drink, never more than 1 drink per girl, select my girl, and get out as quickly as possible. If the music level drops, I'll spend more time and money in the go-go bars.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2452780]That sounds good to me! As it has been in the past, I get in, buy myself 1 drink, never more than 1 drink per girl, select my girl, and get out as quickly as possible. If the music level drops, I'll spend more time and money in the go-go bars.[/QUOTE]I second that. It only takes moderate background music for my hearing to fail at any conversation.
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Sign of the times
Could be a sign of things to come, a mall in Bangkok installed foot pedals in the elevators.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1921924[/URL]
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Eating words for breakfast, lunch, and dinner
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2452171]Topics regarding prostitoots. There really isn't any thing other than price that interest people.
Czar is right. A ten is a 10. A one is a 1. A 4. 66778 is a 4. 6678.
What say you.
700 baht girl is a 700 baht girl.
Got milk.[/QUOTE]Mr. E is right. In the past, I paid over 8000 including barfine and drinks for this girl Pang that worked What's Up and Pin Up (most recent). XXL got her for 1500 baht plus shrimp fried rice. So I have to eat my own words. The devil is definitely in the details. Not sure is she qualifies as a 10 or a 1. But if you are wondering how dry it is in Pattaya, Pang is a good example of what 1500 baht can get you when you feed the right person.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2452805]Mr. E is right. In the past, I paid over 8000 including barfine and drinks for this girl Pang that worked What's Up and Pin Up (most recent). XXL got her for 1500 baht plus shrimp fried rice. So I have to eat my own words. The devil is definitely in the details. Not sure is she qualifies as a 10 or a 1. But if you are wondering how dry it is in Pattaya, Pang is a good example of what 1500 baht can get you when you feed the right person.[/QUOTE]To be precise she asked and got 1500 + 150 taxi money.
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Show me Pang when I'm back! I don't remember her from Palace.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2452858]To be precise she asked and got 1500 + 150 taxi money.[/QUOTE]From her pic, that sounds about right. In Bangkok, that is. I haven't been to Pattaya in months, so I don't know how realistic it would be to think many guys would give her as much as, say, 3,000 baht for ST very often. Plus barfine and a couple of drinks? Might be a stretch. Occassionally, maybe. With certain customers. But regularly and often?
She looks good. Maybe 500 baht more than 1,500 baht max for an upfront agreement to provide a True GFE/Real Sex. Of course, in my situation, if she said No to an upfront agreement for that, I'd have to walk away anyway even for 1,000 baht all in.
So if Mr. E gets her for his usual 1,000 baht for LT and gets BBFS+CIP with her after zero discussion about it at any time, as he said he or anybody could, that would be impressive and a pretty good deal in Pattaya. Unless it started at 4am after she came stumbling out of a bar or something like that. Then I'd probably take a pass on it for almost any price or agreement. But that's me.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2451567]It always seems as if another member such as XXL or FL Hawk mentions about a decent experience with a girl I set them up with, this guy here has something to say. And it's always about "well. If it's not BBFS + CIP then it's not worth mentioning. " Sometimes, I think, "Give it a rest and crawl back to whatever hole," but this is all entertainment. And some should keep entertaining us other ways, because it's obviously not from contributions and reviews of girls. Did I run into this somebody recently and made him mad? Just the other day, I was at 7-11 near Central Festival on Beach Road, and there was an older farrang gentleman in his mid to late 60's standing in front of the sandwich cooler, trying to figure out what he was going to eat. He pointed to these grilled cheese sandwiches that had yellow stickers on them showing 17.50 instead or the normal 35 baht, because he wasn't sure what it meant. I told him they were half off because they only had 2 days before expiration, but you can probably freeze them. He said thank you, but was too slow. I reached past him and grabbed both of the grilled cheese sandwiches that were discounted. The rest that was in the cooler were at full price. He looked at me baffled. Then, I saw my favorite CP Shrimp burgers (which are very difficult to find at most 7-11's). I turn to him and told him these were yummy as well. "Hey Mister, this is also a good choice too. " Gave him a sec to digest that. And then, I proceeded to take and buy all CP Shrimp burgers that was on the shelf. He took too long. This reminded me of the whole Monkeypaw and the Go Go bar girls thing. Went home, and wonder who was that guy and did that guy get upset?
P.S. Anybody knows why Villa Market always two prices for the same items in diff parts of the same store? Is this another Thailand scam?[/QUOTE]From my experience it has more to do with education and Thais just following what they are told to do basically no question asked? This is why at grocers like Villa, Tops, Foodland, Big see, Lotus even the hardware stores like Homepro you will find similar. They just stocked stuff it in although they might be overlapped forget to remove the price labels. How many times you think you are getting one price and then check out it is different not being cheap that is why I take the time to check the prices when they ring it up.
I buy popcorn at 7/11 the one that says " New York " 18 baht, the other day I was at Tops (Khao Noi) I saw the same popcorn slightly bigger bag 89 baht. I took the bag up to customer service counter ask the lady why is this item 89 baht when it is only 18 baht at 7/11, she stared at me the stare that they give under their breath they are saying " fucking know it all Farang who is he to question us this is Thailand look " She says it's from America! I showed her the bag yes it says New York but it isn't from New York it means New York style made in Thailand!
Rarely from my shopping experience, it is done intentionally what is intentional is if you don't know prices you see ads 50% plus off what they have done is raise it 50% and then give you 50% off I see it daily. You get those buy 2 and get one free stuff, you think you are getting something but you are just buying one more you don't really need and getting an extra that you don't need either.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2452974]...
Rarely from my shopping experience, it is done intentionally what is intentional is if you don't know prices you see ads 50% plus off what they have done is raise it 50% and then give you 50% off I see it daily. You get those buy 2 and get one free stuff, you think you are getting something but you are just buying one more you don't really need and getting an extra that you don't need either.[/QUOTE]It's a bit like this 1-card frequent buyer card in Central. I would get, say minus 70 baht on a 500-baht purchase one day. Then 10 days in a row I would get no discount at all. Upon inquiry about the validity of my 1-card but they would tell me it was still valid and there was nothing wrong with it. What was happening? Maybe they gave me some discounts in the days following membership, then switched off all discounts.
Whatever, one thing that amazes me most when I'm back in Europe is how cheap shopping for food in Europe is compared to Thailand. In Europe I can fill a shopping cart to the brim with 50 euros. In TH the same amount will get me little. Of course I shouldn't be buying imported stuff in TH, right? But what is there to buy in a supermarket that is worth buying and produced in Thailand? Rice and chicken? TH has the strongest currency in Asia and is still imposing punitive custom duties on imported basic food. Macadam nuts FROM AUSTRALIA 4x more expensive in TH than in Europe. Avocados the price of beef. Dairy products a luxury item.
Luckily, eating out in TH is cheap.
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Upper half is a 10
I don't know about the rest of Pang's body but her face and upper body rate a 9/10 at least!
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2452805]Mr. E is right. In the past, I paid over 8000 including barfine and drinks for this girl Pang that worked What's Up and Pin Up (most recent). XXL got her for 1500 baht plus shrimp fried rice. So I have to eat my own words. The devil is definitely in the details. Not sure is she qualifies as a 10 or a 1. But if you are wondering how dry it is in Pattaya, Pang is a good example of what 1500 baht can get you when you feed the right person.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chacal60;2453005]I don't know about the rest of Pang's body but her face and upper body rate a 9/10 at least![/QUOTE]I haven't even met her but I can tell you that Pang has a nice tush and legs.
Pro Tip: if you are sitting at a bar and can't see a girl below the waist, look at her arms. Flabby arms = big arse. Toned biceps = pert ass and nice legs. Test it out if you don't believe me.
MP can correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm not. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
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Blood sisters
[QUOTE=Goferring;2453012]I haven't even met her but I can tell you that Pang has a nice tush and legs.
Pro Tip: if you are sitting at a bar and can't see a girl below the waist, look at her arms. Flabby arms = big arse. Toned biceps = pert ass and nice legs. Test it out if you don't believe me.
MP can correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm not. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chacal60;2453005]I don't know about the rest of Pang's body but her face and upper body rate a 9/10 at least![/QUOTE][QUOTE=BananaBoi;2452873]Show me Pang when I'm back! I don't remember her from Palace.[/QUOTE]So I'm not her pimp, and she's self advertising on ThaiFriendly. She's just one of those "rarely replies to messages" girls. However when I message her on ThaiFriendly, and we have a lengthy back and forth conversation, it takes that designation away temporarily because the percentage is now thrown off. I've done pretty much everything to this poor girl, so meeting her now is not a priority. She's part of the "haves" not the "have nots" when it comes to money. She worked Whats Up, not Palace. But she lives with a blood sister who works at Palace. I've been with her 20 year old sister as well and she is a dud in bed. Probably a step or two above Lala from Sapphire. I even told Pang about her sister, but was told because she was only 19 at the time when I took her from Palace. Both were last spotted at Pin Up pre-COVID shutdown. Body is accurate at 5'2 101 on TF. Her sister is taller, maybe 5'4 and 100. Boobs are small on both but perky. Pang is the wilder of the two, but for the right price. Not sure what 1500 gets you from her.
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Further inspection required for online
[QUOTE=Goferring;2453012]I haven't even met her but I can tell you that Pang has a nice tush and legs.
Pro Tip: if you are sitting at a bar and can't see a girl below the waist, look at her arms. Flabby arms = big arse. Toned biceps = pert ass and nice legs. Test it out if you don't believe me.
MP can correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm not. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]So yeah, I do the Go Go thing and I do it quite well I think. Online, I'm learning to filter out the filter, if you know what I mean. I really hate those apps. They make can make Whoopi Goldgberg or Kim McGuire look hot. If you don't know who they these two women are please Google them. So these are my steps in snagging online girls.
1. Go with what they give you initially, even if it's only 1 pic on their profile. If you like it, go to step 2.
2. Look at the height weight. I have a max of 49 kilos (and that's for taller girls) and 29 years of age on my TF search standards. It's because I know they deflate those numbers. Typically, I'm around the 40-46 kilo range with 20-25 year olds. But when in doubt, go back to step 1 and look at those pics and compare what they list. If it's consistent with what my experiences have been and match the body types from what I know, go step 3.
3. Throw out a fair number 1500 is my norm or give them their asking price. This will get you to step 4.
4. Get the LINE so you can further inspect other pics. If there are no pics on LINE or posts to back up step 2, I ask for them. If they don't send, this is where it ends. If any pics are inconsistent to step 2 or are "off. " It's a dead deal.
Reason for all these steps is that I'm too nice in person and even on video chat. BB and others will tell you, I can walk into a GoGo bar and there will be 0 customers and bunch of old fuglies dancing. I can't just walk out because I feel bad for them. I will sit and buy a drink and finish in 5 minutes and try to play it off. Same with a bait and switch unless its the opposite sex that shows up. So yes, I've learned to look at arms, chat about what they like to eat just to screen their asses more.
Same girl in the pics below. She nabbed me with her first pic. She got X'ed out after she provided her info at Step 4. Look at those thighs in the bikini. Scary thing is that I think it was taken at my condo complex. And look at her profile background, pizza really? She will not being seeing any of the meat this day!
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453031]So yeah, I do the Go Go thing and I do it quite well I think. Online, I'm learning to filter out the filter, if you know what I mean. I really hate those apps. [/QUOTE]MP,
Love your work. The bar scene is basically dead in the Philippines so I do 80% of my sourcing from online. Some suggestions:
ALWAYS video chat to confirm looks and intention.
Get makeup and filter free photos (thanks Mr E).
Meet where and when you are doing your daily chores. Don't waste a day sitting waiting for a girl who is a noshow or 4 hours late.
Unfortunately, expect a 1 or 2/10 drop in hotness rating from profile to reality. Of course they pick flattering photos and camera angles and the better they appear, the further they fall.
Referrals can be a godsend as they will know your expectations and pricing.
Don't be afraid to step outside your comfort zone. There are some stellar surprises out there.
Never, not ever, never prepay for any thing.
Thanks for your contributions.
Cheers G.
A bit indulgent of myself but I was asked to collate some of my posts about online hookups. Its targeted at newbies rather than yourself but someone may find it useful.
It was written for the Philippines so make use of what's relevant to LOS and disregard any that is not.
G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2357684]As suggested in the Cebu Forum, a Summary of my posts on using online Apps in the Philippines.
My apologies for any repetition but sometimes the same question has been asked and answered several times.
There are also some very relevant posts by others around mine. These are also well worth reading if anyone is researching information.
Apologies also for the number of quotes but someone may get value from having the info in one place.
Cheers. G.
How to's.
Different Apps and Platforms.
From the Girls' Perspective.
General Info.
Start Making Contact Early or Not?
Device Selection.
Dangers and Scams.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453031]Same girl in the pics below. She nabbed me with her first pic. She got X'ed out after she provided her info at Step 4. Look at those thighs in the bikini. Scary thing is that I think it was taken at my condo complex. And look at her profile background, pizza really? She will not being seeing any of the meat this day![/QUOTE]To her credit she gave you a clue with her Line profile nickname.
Her name written in Thai means "fat pig".
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[QUOTE=XXL;2452999]It's a bit like this 1-card frequent buyer card in Central. I would get, say minus 70 baht on a 500-baht purchase one day. Then 10 days in a row I would get no discount at all. Upon inquiry about the validity of my 1-card but they would tell me it was still valid and there was nothing wrong with it. What was happening? Maybe they gave me some discounts in the days following membership, then switched off all discounts.
Whatever, one thing that amazes me most when I'm back in Europe is how cheap shopping for food in Europe is compared to Thailand. In Europe I can fill a shopping cart to the brim with 50 euros. In TH the same amount will get me little. Of course I shouldn't be buying imported stuff in TH, right? But what is there to buy in a supermarket that is worth buying and produced in Thailand? Rice and chicken? TH has the strongest currency in Asia and is still imposing punitive custom duties on imported basic food. Macadam nuts FROM AUSTRALIA 4x more expensive in TH than in Europe. Avocados the price of beef. Dairy products a luxury item.
Luckily, eating out in TH is cheap.[/QUOTE]I have a number of cards for places like Big see, Lotus, also one for Tops that is all I can handle all of them are under the misses name I find Lotus to the best for points and getting the final price reduce right before you pay. Big see is a pain in the ass if not in your name they once send me to customer service for a reduction in 40 baht wanted my passport etc. I just said forget it all these questions over 40 baht. Tops, good they reduce right there before you pay many of the items on sale you must be a member to get the discount you see the price on the shelf in Thai that is basically what is telling you. Lotus is the best they have lots of buy 1 get one free and they don't raise the price then discount it. When it comes to points I have no idea if I'm really getting anything I leave that up to the misses to collect if you can at all. There are items that don't provide points I buy a bunch of baby milk powder and pampers and they give you no points.
I guess when you don't actually live here and have a responsibility it is different I've always been a good consumer so when each month you are buying 7-10,000 baht worth of supplies I want to get the best bang for my baht. I rarely buy American brands because of the markup it is just the name if you look on the back it is all printed with Thai words that are pretty much a giveaway. What American products I need I get at Costco and bring it back once or twice a year. Many of the Thai brands aren't too bad nothing you can't live with?
Thai food, tonight is the family night we went to a local place that specializes in frogs, and other items you can't get in town usually? This place is family-owned we had 10 assorted dishes, rice, soup, and two large LEO beer price 1400 baht. Not for everyone you seat outside although tonight was overcast this time of year with Durian in the season there is flies everywhere hard not to smack you face while eating then the mosquitoes but I guess I've been here and the farm so long I've gotten use to it.
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Better Late than Never
Okay, so I've been in Thailand (Pattaya more so than BKK) for over 2 1/2 months, banging a different girl on most days, mainly from ThaiFriendly, and still haven't posted too many reviews like I should. It's not like the Go Go bars occupy my time late at nights or Soi 6 is open during the day for me to lounge around. I think, I've just been lazy. Everyday, I wake up, clean my room, shit, shower, shave, do my afternoon walk on Beach Road to Central back to Avenue, fuck a girl at 5 pm, do my night walk Beach Road to Central to Treetown, try to find a second round girl to fuck (only 2 girls ever found), and then return to my room before curfew. So Monkeypaw apologizes and now it's time to play catch up. And I do apologize ahead of time, if any of these girls is any other member's "hidden gem. " Honestly, I wouldn't know because I see very few, if any, ThaiFriendly reviews with the info, that of course, makes a review a review. If that makes sense.
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Miss IndyHarleyQuinn
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2453297]Newsflash.
1. Number 1.
2. C number 1.
I'm not talking about the Free immigration girls, bank tellers, office managers, etc that so many here get.
The kind that will make you breakfast.
The kind that don't care you are 70 and they are 30. It's just a number.[/QUOTE]How about a hotel receptionist? CFS, DFK, with BBBJ, nothing else exceptional but did have a snug pussy. I know she's not the prettiest or hottest chick compared to what I see others post on here, but her pics are accurate. She's probably like a 5 or 6 to most ISGers. Anyways, 2000 plus 100 tip is what was paid and I would repeat. I'm wondering if I overpaid. If anybody else has had an experience with her for less or better service, let me know please.
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Sky
I like to try to grab those "user does not reply or rarely reply" to many messages girls on ThaiFriendly. I think those are the very shy and not so beautiful girls, who are just afraid to let loose, so they don't respond to many. I think these chicks perhaps feel a little sympathy for me and perhaps giveth me a chanceth. Probably most just feel sorry for me and all, being I am so desperate. Same treatment I get from the GoGo bar girls I guess. Sky is definitely not a looker (maybe a 6?) but probably has the best natural body with a nice ass that's I've banged on TF. Definitely best natural tits, but what do I know. I've posted a mannequin's body and tits as the ideal from a near perfect perspective in a previous post. Anyways GFE with CIM for 1500 plus tip.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453367]Okay, so I've been in Thailand (Pattaya more so than BKK) for over 2 1/2 months, banging a different girl on most days, mainly from ThaiFriendly, and still haven't posted too many reviews like I should. It's not like the Go Go bars occupy my time late at nights or Soi 6 is open during the day for me to lounge around. I think, I've just been lazy. Everyday, I wake up, clean my room, shit, shower, shave, do my afternoon walk on Beach Road to Central back to Avenue, fuck a girl at 5 pm, do my night walk Beach Road to Central to Treetown, try to find a second round girl to fuck (only 2 girls ever found), and then return to my room before curfew. So Monkeypaw apologizes and now it's time to play catch up. And I do apologize ahead of time, if any of these girls is any other member's "hidden gem. " Honestly, I wouldn't know because I see very few, if any, ThaiFriendly reviews with the info, that of course, makes a review a review. If that makes sense.[/QUOTE]Pretty much same here, just in Bangkok instead of Pattaya. Not fucking different girls everyday instead relying more on regulars I found during covid. And 2-3 new ones every week. I'm also gone lazy writing reports, just because I can't see anything new to write about my fuck sessions.
Keep your reports coming, they're fun.
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Thermae encounters vs random freelancers
How have you found encounters with thermae girls compared to random freelancers (nana hotel) etc- also on my first vist post covid should I just stay in Bangkok or go to Pataya as well. Thanks.
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Recycling girls vs trying out new ones
5 or so ok girls to rotate is enough to get laid in style. When it comes to indulging my inborn male promiscuity, 5 girls feel like 500.
I am however (again) struggling with a shortage of Sagami condoms in Pattaya. Why do they stock the pencil dick Sagami that nobody buys instead of having enough of the larger one? When I run out I'll have to reach a BB agreement with my best regular and stick to her. So I'll be down to one girl.
Trying out new girls from TF must be balanced against missing repeats with ok regulars while they are not menstruating. Given the unreliability of new online girls and the high percentage of misleading pics, I find little incentive to try out new TF girls when I already have about 5 or 6 I can rely on. Also, the more girls you have on call the more difficult it is to keep track of their menses.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453031]I'm too nice in person and even on video chat. BB and others will tell you, I can walk into a GoGo bar and there will be 0 customers and bunch of old fuglies dancing. I can't just walk out because I feel bad for them. I will sit and buy a drink and finish in 5 minutes and try to play it off.[/QUOTE]555.
MP needs arseholes like me who don't care much about what the girls think.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2453499]Also, the more girls you have on call the more difficult it is to keep track of their menses.[/QUOTE]I would never keep track of cycle of a hooker. I'm paying her for ease-of-fuck, I don't need another headache by remembering which day which one has mens. Anyways always these girls have tell me that they can't meet because of "that time of month". There was only one time I remember when my condom had little bit of blood and that was with my girlfriend.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453412]I like to try to grab those "user does not reply or rarely reply" to many messages girls on ThaiFriendly. I think those are the very shy and not so beautiful girls, who are just afraid to let loose, so they don't respond to many.[/QUOTE]I think it is some kind of gimmick put in place by the website. Maybe to give a guy more confidence when one responds? A lot of the girls that have that on their profile hit me up first and I don't find their response rate to be any different than anyone else.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2453499]5 or so ok girls to rotate is enough to get laid in style.
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I find little incentive to try out new TF girls when I already have about 5 or 6 I can rely on.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. I'm wondering what's definition of regular for others. For me, if I see a girl more than 3 times, she's my regular. Technically because of covid I have 11 regulars, 5 in their hometown and 6 in Bangkok. Now I had 7 on Saturday but one won't be seeing me anymore because of her own stupid mistake. But that's a different story for other day. I don't know how I will manage them when others come back, some of them I will obviously have to ditch. Anyways I love seeing these regulars, because there is no time limit with them, great GFE and lot of other benefits. They can stay as long as I want (I think so LOL) and some are also okay with BBFS (which I don't do with them). But typically if I see any one of them more than 2 times a week, their charm starts to go off. In the end we wll need new pussies, and that's why even now when bars are closed, I still keep looking for new girls with various means and 1 thing is obvious, there's no shortage of them in Thailand. Otherwise if I try to see my regulars a lot, then there won't be left any by the end of next month.
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[QUOTE=Gargano19;2453504]I'm wondering what's definition of regular for others. For me, if I see a girl more than 3 times, she's my regular.[/QUOTE]I do not have a definition. I don't even want to fuck free chicks that often, I certainly am not about to pay to fuck a chick that often. It would take me maybe 2 years to fuck the same hooker 3 times. I am not in it for pussy, I am in it for NEW pussy.
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[QUOTE=Gargano19;2453504]That's interesting. I'm wondering what's definition of regular for others. For me, if I see a girl more than 3 times, she's my regular. Technically because of covid I have 11 regulars, 5 in their hometown and 6 in Bangkok...[/QUOTE]Having been stuck in the same Thai city for months now, my definition of "regular" most certainly didn't include girls in their hometowns (nor girls in Nairobi or Kampala for that matter). My notion of that word in English may have been lacking. Still, what kind of regularity can be inferred as regards girls one has been cut off from for months?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453405]Anyways, 2000 plus 100 tip is what was paid and I would repeat. I'm wondering if I overpaid.[/QUOTE]2000 B and Monkey Paw is wondering if he overpaid! I guess Mr E has a positive influence on you.
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[QUOTE=Skyereese;2453498]How have you found encounters with thermae girls compared to random freelancers (nana hotel) etc- also on my first vist post covid should I just stay in Bangkok or go to Pataya as well. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've never taken a Nana FL but I've been to Thermae several times. If you're Asian, you want to go to Thermae. The FLs in Thermae usually charge more and may opt to pass on a westerner because they're waiting for Asian clients (especially Japanese) who will typically pay more. The girls who prefer Japanese clients have a saying. "4, 4 4."
Bangkok and Pataya have their pros and cons. If you have the time, go to both. You'll most likely be flying into Bangkok anyways.
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2000 vs 5000
[QUOTE=Nounce;2453545]2000 B and Monkey Paw is wondering if he overpaid! I guess Mr E has a positive influence on you.[/QUOTE]2000 baht seems relatively cheap compared the 5000 this girl is accepting. I was just messing around on TF and set my search parameters to "Thailand" instead of Pattaya or Bangkok. She popped up on the first page and had one of those "does not reply to many messages. " My assumption is that she is one of those shy and unpopular girls that perhaps doesn't know what exactly to do on ThaiFriendly. So I gave it a shot and started a chat with a simple "Let's meet, I pay you." Not sure what she does for a living or if she even freelances, but for at least one night next week, she will be Monkeypaw's sex slave. I showed her pics to XXL and he seems to think she may be a LB. Not sure how he is able to tell. Am I missing something? I've done this 9 years, and been fooled just once online. And it was in Vietnam, not Thailand.
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Feeding the Paw
[QUOTE=Skyereese;2453498]How have you found encounters with thermae girls compared to random freelancers (nana hotel) etc- also on my first vist post covid should I just stay in Bangkok or go to Pataya as well. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Non pros are much nicer. You can find them selling their asses to the right guy that comes along. She's not the cutest thing on ThaiFriendly, but she says at least have nice skin and a nice round bubble ass for a petite girl. After our GFE session, she kept to her deal and bought me a Shrimp Burger and banana at 7-11. So I've learned not to judge by appearances. As tiny as she was, those vocal chords were loud as fuck. Can someone say screamer? Even if she's not that attractive, she had a gentle heart because she paid for my meal. When you feed the Paw, good things will come. Or in this case, will not come, on her face that is. Definitely a repeat for only 1167 baht. (I deducted the food she paid for).
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Feeding the Paw
[QUOTE=Skyereese;2453498]How have you found encounters with thermae girls compared to random freelancers (nana hotel) etc- also on my first vist post covid should I just stay in Bangkok or go to Pataya as well. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Non pros are much nicer. You can find them selling their asses to the right guy that comes along. She's not the cutest thing on ThaiFriendly, but she says at least have nice skin and a nice round bubble ass for a petite girl. After our GFE session, she kept to her deal and bought me a Shrimp Burger and banana at 7-11. So I've learned not to judge by appearances. As tiny as she was, those vocal chords were loud as fuck. Can someone say screamer? Even if she's not that attractive, she had a gentle heart because she paid for my meal. When you feed the Paw, good things will come. Or in this case, will not come, on her face that is. Definitely a repeat for only 1167 baht. (I deducted the food she paid for).
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453644]2000 baht seems relatively cheap compared the 5000 this girl is accepting. I was just messing around on TF and set my search parameters to "Thailand" instead of Pattaya or Bangkok. She popped up on the first page and had one of those "does not reply to many messages. " My assumption is that she is one of those shy and unpopular girls that perhaps doesn't know what exactly to do on ThaiFriendly. So I gave it a shot and started a chat with a simple "Let's meet, I pay you." Not sure what she does for a living or if she even freelances, but for at least one night next week, she will be Monkeypaw's sex slave. I showed her pics to XXL and he seems to think she may be a LB. Not sure how he is able to tell. Am I missing something? I've done this 9 years, and been fooled just once online. And it was in Vietnam, not Thailand.[/QUOTE]Her eyes don't look right and her ring finger looks longer than her index finger.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453644]2000 baht seems relatively cheap compared the 5000 this girl is accepting.[/QUOTE]If you are there for another month or so no doubt you will be down to E's 700 baht. 😁.
I wonder how low the previously 5000 girls will go? I'm assuming they will have more cash to fall back on (compared to the Beach Road scrubbers) but that may be a very big or incorrect assumption.
I watch with interest. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2453594]I've never taken a Nana FL but I've been to Thermae several times. If you're Asian, you want to go to Thermae. The FLs in Thermae usually charge more and may opt to pass on a westerner because they're waiting for Asian clients (especially Japanese) who will typically pay more. The girls who prefer Japanese clients have a saying. "4, 4 4."
Bangkok and Pataya have their pros and cons. If you have the time, go to both. You'll most likely be flying into Bangkok anyways.[/QUOTE]Walking by the closed and darkened Thermae around 8pm the other night, I saw there were at least 20 real female Thermae FL types standing outside hoping to nab a passerby customer.
And, true to Thermae's more recent tradition, the small handful of best looking girls in the gathering (yep, there were some lookers) gave this farang, me, the cold shoulder and could not be bothered to so much as turn their unmasked face in my direction to smile, reply to my passing "sawatdee khrup" or indicate the least bit of interest in me taking them. LOL.
Mind you, I am talking about an otherwise nearly empty and dark Sukhumvit Road, practically devoid of potential customers OTHER than me. And maybe only one old Asian guy with a shopping bag hurrying home on the other side of the road.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2453751]true to Thermae's more recent tradition, the small handful of best looking girls in the gathering (yep, there were some lookers) gave this farang, me, the cold shoulder and could not be bothered to so much as turn their unmasked face in my direction to smile, reply to my passing "sawatdee khrup" or indicate the least bit of interest in me taking them. LOL.
Mind you, I am talking about an otherwise nearly empty and dark Sukhumvit Road, practically devoid of potential customers OTHER than me. And maybe only one old Asian guy with a shopping bag hurrying home on the other side of the road.[/QUOTE]Are there even many Koreans and Japanese in Bangkok these days? Who exactly are these girls waiting for?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2453735]If you are there for another month or so no doubt you will be down to E's 700 baht. 😁.[/QUOTE]Maybe MP can beat Mr. E to 450 baht including motorbike taxi and a 20 baht bag of shrimp chips at 7-11.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453757]Maybe MP can beat Mr. E to 450 baht including motorbike taxi and a 20 baht bag of shrimp chips at 7-11.[/QUOTE]Now there is a challenge. 😁.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't doubt it. I've compared the Convid19 to the 90's Asian Fiancial Crisis in the effect it had on mongering and the wider population. Several people called me a liar when I discussed the lowball prices that were available during those years.
Unfortunately I'm not in BKK / MNL to test out my theory. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453757]Are there even many Koreans and Japanese in Bangkok these days? Who exactly are these girls waiting for?
Maybe MP can beat Mr. E to 450 baht including motorbike taxi and a 20 baht bag of shrimp chips at 7-11.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have no idea who or what they were waiting for. I still experienced this classic Thermae non response from most of the better looking girls and observed it happening to other Farangs of any age in Thermae even during that period of time before the closures when Asian tourists in the place were almost non existent.
It could be the Thermae cultural "Face" requirement to NOT be seen leaving with a Farang for those better lookers is so strong they can't even drop it under the current circumstances.
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Monkeypaw Got Scammed
Met a girl online and she threw out 800 baht to fuck her in her room at Arcadia Beach Resort. She waits to you arrive, ask to buy stuff. Thank God just 2 packs cigarettes for me for 120 baht. Then you buy at Family just next door. Walk to her room, knocked on the door and there is her, no make up, looking frumpy as fuck like she just woke up, with another chick and a dude in one tiny ass filthy studio condo. I saw the bed and it was unmade and full of clothes on it. Should of known something was up when she wouldn't come down and open the door with her card. She told me to wait until somebody else came in and run in behind them. By then I was already a long ways away from Centara Azure. I didn't give her shit and just shook my head. She said I could still come in and where were the cigarettes? I showed them to her and asked if these were the right brand. And when she nodded yes, I put them back in my backpack and walked away to bunch on muttering and cursing in Thai. I was able to make out "up to you" before she slammed the door. Blocked me on TF. Thank God again for those 10 baht buses. It only cost me 20 baht to get there plus another 10 to get back and some good exercise. The 2 packs will be given as a tip to another girl who I fuck in the future, if she smokes. Not a big loss. I wonder how much groceries this little group has gotten from guys? Also wonder why not so many ISGers post about scams and alerts. As if all experiences are fantastic and we are just in Pussy Utopia where nothing bad or weird ever happens.
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Pimps and Managers?
Why are these Soi 6 bar girls are charging 1300-1500? When the bars were opened, it was 1000 for ST with them plus 300 or 400 for the room and a couple drinks maybe. Now that they've moved online, most of them are charging more than the 1000 baht they used to get. I notice that some have a discrepancy on their English skills from TF, LINE, up to when they meet you in person and can't understand a word you say. Me thinks that it's beginning to look a lot like Vietnam online girls with pimps, mamasans, managers and farang boyfriends or whatever making the bookings. XXL mentioned seeing a guy driving his girl around from appointment to appointment all day. Anyways Sky Indy, typically Soi 6 girl working on ThaiFriendly with typical Soi 6 experience. BBBJ with CIM finish. Paid 1300. Pics are accurate.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453958]Also wonder why not so many ISGers post about scams and alerts. As if all experiences are fantastic and we are just in Pussy Utopia where nothing bad or weird ever happens.[/QUOTE]This was my point the other day. Guys hardly ever post about negative experiences.
Even when things go relatively well weird shit happens on a Thai "date".
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453964]Why are these Soi 6 bar girls are charging 1300-1500? When the bars were opened, it was 1000 for ST with them plus 300 or 400 for the room and a couple drinks maybe. Now that they've moved online, most of them are charging more than the 1000 baht they used to get. I notice that some have a discrepancy on their English skills from TF, LINE, up to when they meet you in person and can't understand a word you say. Me thinks that it's beginning to look a lot like Vietnam online girls with pimps, mamasans, managers and farang boyfriends or whatever making the bookings. XXL mentioned seeing a guy driving his girl around from appointment to appointment all day. Anyways Sky Indy, typically Soi 6 girl working on ThaiFriendly with typical Soi 6 experience. BBBJ with CIM finish. Paid 1300. Pics are accurate.[/QUOTE]
Very perceptive. Guess Soi 6 bar managers are still working arranging appointments for their girls.
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Does this make me cheap?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2453545]2000 B and Monkey Paw is wondering if he overpaid! I guess Mr E has a positive influence on you.[/QUOTE]This was the longest continuous stay that I've ever done in Thailand. Clearly I have no life outside of trying to hunt and fuck Thai girls which I kept telling folks. I'm not a retiree in Thailand but a jobless monger. I got so excited the other day when a Thai girl I am fucking, showed me how to operate the water filter machine (instructions in Thai) in the small alley near to Centra Hotel leading to Buakhao. All these years I've been spending 40 baht for 6 L 7-11 jugs of water. Now I can refill them for 6 baht. Amazing. Just in case people didn't know. It's this simple and saves me 300 plus baht a month.
1. Green light on means it's in service. Red light means it's not.
2. Put the jug or bottle underneath the nozzle.
3. 1 baht per L. A normal large jug from 7-11 is 6 L.
4. Insert coin 1, 2, 5, and 10 accepted.
5. The green button is start and to stop water filling.
6. Any remaining money balance goes to the next person, so know your jug size.
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Arcadia Beach Resort
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453958]Met a girl online and she threw out 800 baht to fuck her in her room at Arcadia Beach Resort. She waits to you arrive, ask to buy stuff.[/QUOTE]Arcadia Beach "Resort" is available on Agoda for $US 7. 00. Even if the room was spotless it probably wouldn't have looked great.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453964]Why are these Soi 6 bar girls are charging 1300-1500? When the bars were opened, it was 1000 for ST with them plus 300 or 400 for the room and a couple drinks maybe. Now that they've moved online, most of them are charging more than the 1000 baht they used to get.[/QUOTE]Because most of the guys that get them are not even as smart as they are. Their thinking is that in the bar the guy is paying 1000 + 300 or 400. So outside of the bar he has no problem paying the same, plus transportation. It is their lucky time, because they can pocket their portion and the bar's usual portion. Most guys seem to think this is good too. My thinking is totally different and I am not afraid to straighten them out.
For instance I met a massage chick online. She said she would come over for 300 baht per hour. Being as smart as I am, I broke it down to her. If I go get a massage at your shop how much would it cost? 200 baht. And what happens with that 200 baht? The owner gets 100 baht and I get 100 baht. So why would I give you 300 baht to come here? I will give you the same 200 baht as I would at the shop and you get to keep all of it. She agreed. She is still getting 100 baht more than she would have in the shop. The second time she tried to get a little slick and said 300 baht again. I told her that I give her 200 remember. Since then we have not had to even discuss it.
When dealing with a Soi 6 chick I give them all 1000 LT anyway just like everybody else. When I am on Soi 6 I will give them 700ST so that my total with the room is 1000.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453989]This was my point the other day. Guys hardly ever post about negative experiences. Even when things go relatively well weird shit happens on a Thai "date".[/QUOTE]Because in all these years I can count my negative experiences on one hand. There are actually only 2 that I can think of. One was years ago when the chick did not want to get in the shower and putting her dirty ass feet in my bed. She ended up karate kicking my TV and I choked the shit out of her and threw her out nekkit and her clothes behind her.
Another was when I brought a chick home and she started praying before walking into the door. Then once in she did more praying, then she did not want to take off her clothes and get to fucking. She only wanted to do more praying. So I kicked her out.
Don't know if you want to count the chick I met at the disco that was jumping on my bed and spraying my cologne on her armpits as if it was deodorant. I ended up getting her again (think I met her online the second time), not realizing it was her crazy ass. When she came over I saw the $ signs on the back of her legs and remembered. I did not let her in, instead making an excuse that I had to go somewhere. I left on my motorbike and when I passed by 20 minutes later she was still waiting outside, so I think I went to Soi 6 or something passing enough time when she was sure to be gone. Other than those times everything has run smoothly for me in the 15 years that I have been coming to Thailand.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454023]Because in all these years I can count my negative experiences on one hand. [/QUOTE]I've had a few sessions that were so bad that they were comical. How are they counted?
Most / all involved the girl ingesting some magical pixie dust in the bathroom moments before the fun began.
Enjoy. G.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453958]Also wonder why not so many ISGers post about scams and alerts. As if all experiences are fantastic and we are just in Pussy Utopia where nothing bad or weird ever happens.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, at times ISG is totally devoid of compassion for those that do post of poor sessions for the benefit of others. I've read of guys basically being called idiots and belittled fairly heavily. Often this is done by guys that clearly haven't seen the outside of mom's basement let alone the multitude of trips that they purport to have taken.
Because of this, it's not surprising that guys are reluctant to post negative experiences and others embellish their less than truthful accounts.
Enjoy. G.
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That's a man
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453644]Am I missing something? [/QUOTE]Although this appears to be a very hot woman, this really looks like she was born a man to me. Look closely at the face. The best looking Asian I ever met was a LB. That was in the 1980's, however. In Siam, everyone can be fooled and be fooled more than once.
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[QUOTE=Slowalk;2454084]Although this appears to be a very hot woman, this really looks like she was born a man to me. [/QUOTE]Doesn't look like a hot woman to me. Looks like a man. The big head, big feet, and the broad shoulders.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2454067]Unfortunately, at times ISG is totally devoid of compassion for those that do post of poor sessions for the benefit of others. I've read of guys basically being called idiots and belittled fairly heavily. Often this is done by guys that clearly haven't seen the outside of mom's basement let alone the multitude of trips that they purport to have taken.
Because of this, it's not surprising that guys are reluctant to post negative experiences and others embellish their less than truthful accounts.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Bingo!
Actually, I have read many Field Reports on this, the Pattaya and Bangkok threads that sure sound to me like it was either a full on scam or a session so bad I would have aborted the mission in 10 minutes and moved on. But then I'll be damned if they don't end with the poster proclaiming it was a "real GFE", "I was ok with it" or something of the kind.
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5000-3000 saves me 2000
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454087]Doesn't look like a hot woman to me. Looks like a man. The big head, big feet, and the broad shoulders.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Slowalk;2454084]Although this appears to be a very hot woman, this really looks like she was born a man to me. Look closely at the face. The best looking Asian I ever met was a LB. That was in the 1980's, however. In Siam, everyone can be fooled and be fooled more than once.[/QUOTE]I guess I'll never find out. The questionable chick magically disappeared or has blocked me. She was in Surin and was going to be in BKK same time I have to run to the embassy this end of this week. So 5000 back into the boom boom fund. I did find a plan be. But yeah, can you guys find out if she has blocked me or just disappeared? Can't find her anymore. It could be all divine intervention, angels watching over me so I don't get another bait and switch. Here she is little Ms. Tricksy again.
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Plan b in BKK
Only 3000, so I did save 2000 from the previous that disappeared. Hopefully, this one is not too questionable. This online TF and a Tinder thing sure is an adventure. I don't see how you guys do it. The GoGo bars were so easy as they did all the filtering for me.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2453751]Walking by the closed and darkened Thermae around 8pm the other night, I saw there were at least 20 real female Thermae FL types standing outside hoping to nab a passerby customer.
And, true to Thermae's more recent tradition, the small handful of best looking girls in the gathering (yep, there were some lookers) gave this farang, me, the cold shoulder and could not be bothered to so much as turn their unmasked face in my direction to smile, reply to my passing "sawatdee khrup" or indicate the least bit of interest in me taking them. LOL.
Mind you, I am talking about an otherwise nearly empty and dark Sukhumvit Road, practically devoid of potential customers OTHER than me. And maybe only one old Asian guy with a shopping bag hurrying home on the other side of the road.[/QUOTE]They would sooner starve than take a farang. Or maybe they have ex punters sending money by western union every month is my guess.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2452805]Mr. E is right. In the past, I paid over 8000 including barfine and drinks for this girl Pang that worked What's Up and Pin Up (most recent). XXL got her for 1500 baht plus shrimp fried rice. So I have to eat my own words. The devil is definitely in the details. Not sure is she qualifies as a 10 or a 1. But if you are wondering how dry it is in Pattaya, Pang is a good example of what 1500 baht can get you when you feed the right person.[/QUOTE]Any TF link to share or more pics to justify.
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[QUOTE=Berrys66;2454313]They would sooner starve than take a farang. Or maybe they have ex punters sending money by western union every month is my guess.[/QUOTE]See, I believe they will and do take Farangs, as long as they aren't stuck in the position if walking away with one in front of too many fellow Thermae witnesses. It is only a matter of timing.
Whether or not the best lookers would ever deliver the kind of True GFE/Real Sex that I would consider worth the time and money even if they did walk away with a Farang, the easy part, is a different matter. My experience suggests they'd sooner starve than do that.
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[QUOTE=Delibelly;2454410]Any TF link to share or more pics to justify.[/QUOTE]Not to sound rude, but me thinks Monkeypaw is one of the last ones on here that needs to justify anything. Just saying.
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Another Naughty by Nature
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2451991]You are not doing anything wrong, just seeing reality.
What is actually left in Pattaya? A load of old drug addicted homeless girls lining soi bukhao hoping someone is desperate enough to actually want to pay them.
As for online, very few girls that are willing to come over during covid 19 and those that are willing are the bottom of the barrel desperados.
Photo shop is indeed a wonderful invention for those that want smoke and mirrors to impress their fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Got one more bottom of the barrel ThaiFriendly desperado for you. 1000 GFE, by the way I've been blessed with the ability to cum inside a condom with a trick I've learned in case anybody wonders why I don't BBFS, besides the whole STD thingie. Small bodied chick with nice ass, tightest pussy, and the most erect nipples I've seen in my life. Like pointy erasers. Would repeat.
P.S: Never thought that one day Monkeypaw, who frequently unloaded 8-15,000 a night for Walking Street models, would be defending the honor and quality of Soi 6 girls. Amazing. Must be the end of the world.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2454473]See, I believe they will and do take Farangs, as long as they aren't stuck in the position if walking away with one in front of too many fellow Thermae witnesses. It is only a matter of timing.
Whether or not the best lookers would ever deliver the kind of True GFE/Real Sex that I would consider worth the time and money even if they did walk away with a Farang, the easy part, is a different matter. My experience suggests they'd sooner starve than do that.[/QUOTE]You might be right about too many witnesses. My first Thermae experience was extremely late at night, minutes before closing with only about 10 girls in the place. There was only one good looker and she left with me. As I remember, it was a pretty decent time and well worth the money. One other time I did well, also very late at night. The other thousand times I couldn't draw the attention of the hottest girls and I either settled for a 2nd tier girl or left alone.
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What's the Trick?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2454518]...by the way I've been blessed with the ability to cum inside a condom with a trick I've learned in case anybody wonders why I don't BBFS...[/QUOTE]What's the trick for cumming inside a condom?
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Fortunately, I can still cum whether I wear a condom or do not wear a condom. It is just that bareback feels a million times better. There is no comparison in feeling.
Now with some girls, I myself opt for a condom for one reason or another. You guys know what I mean - when the girl looks or acts a little too gnarly, but I still want to bang her anyway. Ha Ha. Then there are the times when the girl asks for the condom and I can either cover up or go find another girl (which I seldom do if the condom is the only issue). And then there are the times when both of us are ok without it. I really like these girls the best all else being equal. Duh! But regardless of my chances, I never bring up the issue. Sometimes the girl will ask on our way to my hotel if I have a condom and I will say yes. But, normally I prefer to go with the flow and see what happens in bed. The natural, good vibe, feeling I get when we just get it on and do it bareback, without discussion on the topic, is worth it to me.
Anyway, I think most of us would agree that Thai girls are kind of conservative in this respect. Statistically I find that more than half of my new Thai girls request the covered option on the first night at least. I also find that my covered girl's percentage falls off sharply with repeat get-togethers. Meanwhile, the girls I have hooked up with from other SE Asian countries are a lot looser in this respect. So for all those who find that bareback is critical to them; I suggest you check out Khmer Land, Yangon, CGK, and the PI.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2454508]Not to sound rude, but me thinks Monkeypaw is one of the last ones on here that needs to justify anything. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Not at all my friend.
But you could write at least that if she has a tf profile?
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Ignore Thread
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2224061]So you also put respected posters that quote him (like for example Banana Boi and Natty Bumpo, just to name a few) on your ignore list? That's rather drastic.[/QUOTE]I read the Thai threads for entertainment and now important information pertaining to Asia opening up to foreigners. If punters I read with interest quote BS it shows up. Most of the Thai thread posters are on my ignore list. The next move is to ignore Thai threads entirely. Maybe some of the grownups not in the list will inform me via pm when something important happens. I'm not interested in a pissing contest.
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Unwrap condom
Place on dick, let friction take over.
Works almost all the time for me, unless I'm in my cups and / or trying to repeat faster than my batteries can recharge.
[QUOTE=Atanion;2454621]What's the trick for cumming inside a condom?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2454129]Only 3000, so I did save 2000 from the previous that disappeared. Hopefully, this one is not too questionable. This online TF and a Tinder thing sure is an adventure. I don't see how you guys do it. The GoGo bars were so easy as they did all the filtering for me.[/QUOTE]Met her the other day. Cute girl but won't be repeating her.
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[QUOTE=Gargano19;2454786]Met her the other day. Cute girl but won't be repeating her.[/QUOTE]Besides Blanquiceleste with Mook from Sapphire, and XXL, I finally found another Eskimo buddy on here. All these girls and all the ISG members, why is so hard for us to find and share about the same bar girls and freelancers just like they do in the massage thread? The funny thing with XXL was I tried to set him up with a girl. I showed him her photo and he was like "cute" and willing. I showed her his photo, and she said "I know him, we fucked before many times." So I showed him again and he didn't recognize her at all. Finally, I scrolled through her old pics and showed him a before her remake, face job, and boob job years ago, and guess what? He remembered. Funny, especially because he preferred her old look, while I do her new look. Honestly, I would have never fucked her back then by choice. One thing we can agree on is Mei's ability to fuck and suck, which is stellar. She has one of those pussies that will suck the cum out of you. Hard to not to want to cum while fucking her. Not sure if she does kegel, ass training, or what. You can figure out yourselves which is the Monkeypaw's preferred look. I was chatting with another guy from PA last night and he told me I should branch out to try different looks and body types, while pointing at several Buakhao chunky or bad bodied street girls. I said, the hell I should, let me keep as close as possible to under 25 and resembling one of those female mannequin's body. Those mannequins are there for a reason. I think a reminder from God.
BTW: I wouldn't repeat as well. If I had to do over, I would have showed her what I thought was her best pic and asked her to look like that when I open the door. Service was like a Thermae chick. Glad my ass is back in Pattaya. And the pic of the girl doing the ass training and sculpting is the type of body I like, with exception of her smallish tits.
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Cumming in the condom
[QUOTE=Atanion;2454621]What's the trick for cumming inside a condom?[/QUOTE]1. Get a condom that fits, not too loose, not overly tight. (Important to find one that fits and stick to that).
2. Lots of foreplay without condom. Start on her, not her on you. In this order: DATY, 69, then BBBJ with intermittent HJ (all this needs last at least 15-20 minutes).
3. Go silicone based lube, not water based OR do what Monkeypaw does and use 100% aloe vera gel without alcohol. Aloe vera is cheaper and more viscous.
4. Put a nice glob of aloe all over your dick, especially at the tip and slide on the condom.
5. Pound away (go through all positions because in certain ones the pussy feels so much better than others) and then the rest is mental and let your mind drift to whatever your perversions that gets you off.
6. When ready to cum, finish with the position that feels better and just fuck her with the tip of your dick. 4:1 ratio. 4 tip dick shallow thrusts to 1 deep balls.
7. When just about to cum, Monkeypaw puts all his weight on her body and goes balls deep all the time until I explode.
How do you know if it's all mental? Try masturbating with a well lubed on the inside of the condom. If you can make yourself cum with a condom by jacking off. Then you can cum with a condom during sex. It's all in your mind and use those thoughts and fantasies that you have. From what I've seen guys choosing to fuck in terms of girls, I know those eyes have to close and that imagination has to take over. Not sure how some of you guys do it.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2454632]It is just that bareback feels a million times better. There is no comparison in feeling.[/QUOTE]
I think that's a matter of personal opinion. Feels better without a condom, of course, but not by a whole lot, especially once you get past the initial stage of getting hard and get into proper pounding. The effect is largely psychological, if you think the condom is the one thing hampering your enjoyment, then it becomes so. Fortunately, sex consists of much more than minor differences in moisture and friction you feel on your dick. For me, condom vs bareback accounts for about 5%-10% of the overall feeling.
I do like the peace of mind a condom brings, both in terms of STDs and even more importantly pregnancy. Dealing with a girl who announces she's pregnant and that it might be yours is one of the most stressful avoidable situations in life. An STD I could handle by myself (though HIV is still for life), but really don't care to pass it on to my regular partner.
With a BJ it's different, there a condom is almost a no-go. A BJ usually starts with a soft dick, and the feeling is more subtle. A CBJ also implies disgust that the blower has for you and has need (as well as ability!) to distance herself despite no major safety benefits.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2454947]1. Get a condom that fits, not too loose, not overly tight. (Important to find one that fits and stick to that).
2. Lots of foreplay without condom. Start on her, not her on you. In this order: DATY, 69, then BBBJ with intermittent HJ (all this needs last at least 15-20 minutes).
3. Go silicone based lube, not water based OR do what Monkeypaw does and use 100% aloe vera gel without alcohol. Aloe vera is cheaper and more viscous.
4. Put a nice glob of aloe all over your dick, especially at the tip and slide on the condom.
5. Pound away (go through all positions because in certain ones the pussy feels so much better than others) and then the rest is mental and let your mind drift to whatever your perversions that gets you off.
6. When ready to cum, finish with the position that feels better and just fuck her with the tip of your dick. 4:1 ratio. 4 tip dick shallow thrusts to 1 deep balls.
7. When just about to cum, Monkeypaw puts all his weight on her body and goes balls deep all the time until I explode.
How do you know if it's all mental? Try masturbating with a well lubed on the inside of the condom. If you can make yourself cum with a condom by jacking off. Then you can cum with a condom during sex. It's all in your mind and use those thoughts and fantasies that you have. From what I've seen guys choosing to fuck in terms of girls, I know those eyes have to close and that imagination has to take over. Not sure how some of you guys do it.[/QUOTE]Yes, lube inside the condom is essential. Makes all the difference. Been employing that method since the 90's. And has served me well. Is it as good as BB? Well, no, but it is mighty close and as MP said, most of it is mental.
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Cumming in the Condom
8. Stay under about 60 years old.
When I was in my 40's I needed the condom to prevent premature ejaculation with a new, hot girl. It desensitized and helped me have a longer experience. As I got older, I needed the extra sensation. That means silicone lube inside a thin condom.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2454473]See, I believe they will and do take Farangs, as long as they aren't stuck in the position if walking away with one in front of too many fellow Thermae witnesses. It is only a matter of timing.
Whether or not the best lookers would ever deliver the kind of True GFE/Real Sex that I would consider worth the time and money even if they did walk away with a Farang, the easy part, is a different matter. My experience suggests they'd sooner starve than do that.[/QUOTE]They're hooked on 5000 for a very quick time, you see them out and back in very quick time with jap guys.
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Bars, sex massages in Bangkok to stay closed until July
Bars, playgrounds, boxing stadiums in Bangkok to stay closed until July.
By Coconuts Bangkok Jun 1, 2020.
10:03 am Bangkok time.
Bangkok's governor this morning said 16 business types must remain closed until June 30 to control COVID-19 infections in the capital.
Gov. Aswin Kwanmuang issued an order that requires 16 places including bars, gaming cafes, playgrounds and boxing stadiums to remain shuttered until June 30 or until "further notice."
Issued under the Emergency Decree, which has been extended until July 1, anyone who violates the order faces up to a year in prison and THB100,000 fine. Venue operators could also face permanent closure.
Here is the list of the 16 venues:
Entertainment nightlife venues, such as nightclubs and bars.
Waterparks and amusement parks.
Playgrounds or an area with amusement equipment for children at a market.
Billiard or snooker halls.
Arcades.
Gaming lounges and internet cafes.
Cockfighting rings and staging grounds.
Nurseries and senior care homes (except those with permanent residents).
Boxing stadiums.
Martial arts schools.
Horse racetracks.
Bathing houses.
Sexual massage joints.
Competition grounds.
Banquet halls.
Bullfighting grounds, fish fighting venues or similar places.
Coconuts has journalists on the ground in eight cities working hard to publish true stories that matter. You can support our work by becoming a COCO+ Member or making a Patron payment.
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Another Bud for you.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2455251]Just because a male has a sex change does not make him female, his DNA will always be male, therefore one would be fucking a male, end of story.
As I previously said to your good self if you enjoy such then all power to you but please stop trying to pass off males for females, anyways you should be adhering to social distancing not constantly on this board bragging of your conquest, due to your inability to follow the law you are putting other peoples lives in danger.[/QUOTE]Since you said there is nothing left in Pattaya except old and fuglies. Another one for a 1000 baht and did everything I asked and more. But I'm sure your mileage will vary depending on that ThaiFriendly profile of yours. But by your logic, it could be a man since she only had face pics and doesn't show her crotch. But if she did show the other half of her body, Lord forbid, if her hand is over her crotch because she's must be hiding something. I'm not sure what happened in your past with ladyboys or transgendered, but I apologize on behalf of them if it traumatized you. I however, choose to fuck girls I am attracted to and if they have a pussy. And from the tons of pics I've posted, not many have said my taste is poor, so I might be knowing what I'm doing. You on the other hand, carry your DNA test kit around and ignore their looks but rather focus on whether XX or XY (don't forget XXY). Is that because the lookers or the prettiest don't come a calling? And by you writing "constantly on this board bragging of your conquest," do you mean me posting reviews of girls and where to find them and services they provide as definition of bragging? I'm pretty sure that was the original purpose of ISG. Somebody get this guy and handkerchief.
"Adhering to social distancing instead of fucking girls. " - funniest shit ever.
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Wtf?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2453026]So I'm not her pimp, and she's self advertising on ThaiFriendly. She's just one of those "rarely replies to messages" girls. However when I message her on ThaiFriendly, and we have a lengthy back and forth conversation, it takes that designation away temporarily because the percentage is now thrown off. I've done pretty much everything to this poor girl, so meeting her now is not a priority. She's part of the "haves" not the "have nots" when it comes to money. She worked Whats Up, not Palace. But she lives with a blood sister who works at Palace. I've been with her 20 year old sister as well and she is a dud in bed. Probably a step or two above Lala from Sapphire. I even told Pang about her sister, but was told because she was only 19 at the time when I took her from Palace. Both were last spotted at Pin Up pre-COVID shutdown. Body is accurate at 5'2 101 on TF. Her sister is taller, maybe 5'4 and 100. Boobs are small on both but perky. Pang is the wilder of the two, but for the right price. Not sure what 1500 gets you from her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Delibelly;2454637]Not at all my friend.
But you could write at least that if she has a tf profile?[/QUOTE]You should really follow more carefully what I wrote. I'm not sure how more clear is "self advertising on ThaiFriendly" means she had a ThaiFriendly profile. Where is the confusion on this? Correct me if I am wrong but I feel as if I'm so much on a different planet cognitively when I deal with some ISGers on here.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2455402]Since you said there is nothing left in Pattaya except old and fuglies. Another one for a 1000 baht and did everything I asked and more. But I'm sure your mileage will vary depending on that ThaiFriendly profile of yours. But by your logic, it could be a man since she only had face pics and doesn't show her crotch. But if she did show the other half of her body, Lord forbid, if her hand is over her crotch because she's must be hiding something. I'm not sure what happened in your past with ladyboys or transgendered, but I apologize on behalf of them if it traumatized you. I however, choose to fuck girls I am attracted to and if they have a pussy. And from the tons of pics I've posted, not many have said my taste is poor, so I might be knowing what I'm doing. You on the other hand, carry your DNA test kit around and ignore their looks but rather focus on whether XX or XY (don't forget XXY). Is that because the lookers or the prettiest don't come a calling? And by you writing "constantly on this board bragging of your conquest," do you mean me posting reviews of girls and where to find them and services they provide as definition of bragging? I'm pretty sure that was the original purpose of ISG. Somebody get this guy and handkerchief.
"Adhering to social distancing instead of fucking girls. " - funniest shit ever.[/QUOTE]Why all the defense, by your own admissions you clearly are out fucking ladyboys and then bragging on this board of your conquests instead of following the distancing laws.
As far as thaifriendly accounts I have none so not sure what your beef is.
Yes pictures of clearly guys that have broad shoulders, square jaw, adams apples, massive hands and massive feet send out warning signs to me and most who can tell a male in a dress from the first glance.
Maybe me being a regular Pattaya visitor for over 30 years has given me the ability to not be fooled by guys in dresses, as I say, not judging you just pointing out the obvious.
As far as social distancing instead of spending all your time looking for fellas online maybe educating yourself on the covid 19 pandemic and why it has killed over 1 million people and why social distancing is the only way to save more deaths.
Yes your life is yours to do as you please but mine and countless others lives are not yours to do as you please with, but hey do not expect you to give a shit.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2454621]What's the trick for cumming inside a condom?[/QUOTE]I had a hard time cumming inside a condom. This is just me but it was because I was doing the solo deed too much. When I stayed away from Hannah and her 5 sisters, it became easy.
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[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2451991]SNIP
What is actually left in Pattaya? A load of old drug addicted homeless girls lining soi bukhao hoping someone is desperate enough to actually want to pay them.
As for online, very few girls that are willing to come over during covid 19 and those that are willing are the bottom of the barrel desperados.
Photo shop is indeed a wonderful invention for those that want smoke and mirrors to impress their fellow mongers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2445838]SNIP
Lets be honest here almost all Angeles girls were either fat, old, ugly or a combination of all.
The very tiny amount of Angeles girls that were slightly above average were either drink sluts (do not barfine) cherry girls (virgins) or would only barfine short time with young rich Koreans for large sums. SNIP [/QUOTE]This pretty much explains it all, so I really don't need to keep responding to you anymore. It will feel too much like bullying the short bus kid. It's already bad enough having to monger all the time in Angeles City where it's Halloween every day.
The world is in a mess, and you are trapped where, doing what? It's obviously not fucking hot girls wherever you are at. 400 plus posts and still no worthy reviews of girls with pics. But thanks for all your opinions and other contributions you have made.
But my advice is try not to let your jealousy of others, who are fucking girls everyday and posting reviews and pics, show that obvious. Reminds me of one of them GoGo girls I tied up, fucked, and threw away when she snitched to the Bangkok police about me. Anyways, I know you are bored but don't let the Pattaya door hit you on the way back to the Angeles City thread.
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My Two Cents
Biggest screw up with China was not shutting down the wet markets after SARS. Their existence exponentially increased the risk of transmission of virus's from animals to humans. That is unforgivable and they need to accept responsibility.
When the virus was first recognized by a doctor in Wuhan they silenced him. Their explanation was that he was unnecessarily creating panic, I imagine thinking or just hoping he was wrong and it would go away. He was right, they were wrong. They fucked up and it took off.
From there it came down to how different countries dealt with what was a seriously contagious pandemic. Some, New Zealand, South Korea, particularly Taiwan, Germany and Thailand to mention some recognized the danger and took measures to contain it, some didn't until it was too late the UK, and the US being among those that delayed and are now paying a high price in lives lost.
To blame China for how it started and why it wasn't contained is justified. To blame China for the failures of other countries to take it seriously is not justified. These countries had choices and some made the wrong ones.
On the China bashing that's happening at the moment let's be real it's not about the pandemic. It is political particularly where there are pending elections.
Finding an enemy to blame and to fear is tried and tested from the Jews in Hitler's Germany to disease invested hoards of rapist immigrants in Trump's Americas. Sadly it works. Too many want to point the finger for what's wrong rather than look in the mirror.
On China's growing influence, it's real. One can argue the merits of countries accepting their aid but there will be consequences when payment comes due. Sri Lanka found that out.
Trying to find countries in this part of the world to visit which are not in one way or another if not already under this influence are heading that way is going to get harder and harder.
For me whether Thailand is cozying up with the Chinese or not I couldn't give a rat's ass. I'm staying.
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Blame Game
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2455940]Biggest screw up with China was not shutting down the wet markets after SARS. Their existence exponentially increased the risk of transmission of virus's from animals to humans. That is unforgivable and they need to accept responsibility.
When the virus was first recognized by a doctor in Wuhan they silenced him. Their explanation was that he was unnecessarily creating panic, I imagine thinking or just hoping he was wrong and it would go away. He was right, they were wrong. They fucked up and it took off.
From there it came down to how different countries dealt with what was a seriously contagious pandemic. Some, New Zealand, South Korea, particularly Taiwan, Germany and Thailand to mention some recognized the danger and took measures to contain it, some didn't until it was too late the UK, and the US being among those that delayed and are now paying a high price in lives lost.
To blame China for how it started and why it wasn't contained is justified. To blame China for the failures of other countries to take it seriously is not justified. These countries had choices and some made the wrong ones.[/QUOTE]You make some good points. This is the best comparison that most will understand. You only have liability insurance for your car. You get get blind sided by another car who has no insurance at all. Who's to blame? And before some say it was all an accident. They need to look up the definition of accident "unexpectedly, unintentionally, and without deliberate cause. " The world has been warned over and over and over again regarding pandemics and disease all throughout history. There is but one world that we share. Lots of unpreparedness and lack of primary prevention by all governments and their people, including myself. And it's just begun.
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San Marina
The mall was pretty much dead. Restaurants surrounding that mall are closed. I think that place was very dependent on the Chinese tourists who stayed around Soi 2 area. However the Big see is still alive but barely breathing. 2 check out persons on a Saturday at 2 pm is all they needed and the wait was less then 2 minutes in each lane. However, the Japanese rice was only 67 baht for 2 kg and 75 baht for 1 kg. The same brand. Strangely enough, more bought the 1 kg because its stock was lower than the 2 kg bags. Go figure. Dinner time at Central Festival, most restaurants at about 30% besides Bon Chon Chicken which was 70% full but only 1 server. He looked pissed. They will eventually learn that dining out is about experience and maybe the food for some.
The faces of despair on those selling needless shit is sad. Like the girl selling Maneiki-neko cats. She told me she has yet to sell one since they opened again. So much useless shit in the world, but I guess that's how the rich get richer. They like to make others want useless shit and work their asses off for them. And then call it a booming economy. Massage shops, some open, some closed. Girls telling me they are lucky to see 1 customer every 2 days. And those are the decent looking ones. Nobody tipping as much anymore. I asked them how often they wash that uniform since they sit around and just eat all day. They got mad. Massages are luxury, so if they are failing. So will those bars and clubs even if they open. Keep in mind, almost all business beside the red have been allowed to open. Yet, I would say only 30% or less of Pattaya is even open. And those that have opened aren't doing to well.
My go to motorbike taxi guy in front of Centara is down from 1500-2000 a day, to luckily 200-300 baht. He lives off the free hand outs of food daily. He was a bit chubby and lost 3 kg since. Most of them have disappeared. On the way back home this evening, I think I saw a lady tried to milk a dog that just had puppies with a suction thingie. Maybe her kids are hungry. I dunno.
P.S. Since beach has opened they took away those trash bins lining the road. Police are looking for litterbugs so the city can get paid.
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San Marina
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2456464]The mall was pretty much dead. Restaurants surrounding that mall are closed. I think that place was very dependent on the Chineseid.[/QUOTE]Excellent, very useful post as it helps me make my own travel decisions.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2455743]I had a hard time cumming inside a condom. This is just me but it was because I was doing the solo deed too much. When I stayed away from Hannah and her 5 sisters, it became easy.[/QUOTE]Just wear a condom when you jack off. Problem solved.
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Not a Freelance She Said
Came for a little dinner and got split like a chicken wing wishbone. Come into my web said the spider to the fly. Milky white skin meets black lives matter.
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Here Kitty Kitty
Jesus ate fish. I try not to eat meat. She goes for the steak. Eventually something has to give, and something will suffer. Look at the face. LOL.
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Secret cam usage
Kudos MonkeyPaw on the information you put out in the Thailand forums. Big fan of yours. Hats off!
I have been visiting Pattaya for the last three consecutive years. Was going thru your posts and was wondering how did you manage to take these hidden camera shots while banging the chicks. I am presuming these are hidden.
I was doing some online shopping and came across a mobile wall charger which doubles up as a hidden camera. Not sure how good the quality is. Would love to take them with me in my next trip to Pattaya.
Would be wonderful if you and other forum members could provide some insights on this.
Cheers and bang safe.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2457153]Came for a little dinner and got split like a chicken wing wishbone. Come into my web said the spider to the fly. Milky white skin meets black lives matter.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2457204]Jesus ate fish. I try not to eat meat. She goes for the steak. Eventually something has to give, and something will suffer. Look at the face. LOL.[/QUOTE]How do these girls do it?
If I look at a big steak, I'm 300 lb. What's she? 100 lb max?
G.
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[QUOTE=MysManiac;2457241]Kudos MonkeyPaw on the information you put out in the Thailand forums. Big fan of yours. Hats off!
I have been visiting Pattaya for the last three consecutive years. Was going thru your posts and was wondering how did you manage to take these hidden camera shots while banging the chicks. I am presuming these are hidden.
I was doing some online shopping and came across a mobile wall charger which doubles up as a hidden camera. Not sure how good the quality is. Would love to take them with me in my next trip to Pattaya.
Would be wonderful if you and other forum members could provide some insights on this.
Cheers and bang safe.[/QUOTE]Not mine at all. These were found on internet. Who would do such a thing?
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Justice will be blind
True justice is blind. This expression means that justice is impartial and objective. There is an allusion here to the Greek statue for justice, wearing a blindfold so all are treated equal, no matter their age, mentality, status, wealth, or skin color. Is this even possible in this real world, if not in the P4P world?
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Pathway and the Cross
[QUOTE=Goferring;2457292]How do these girls do it?
If I look at a big steak, I'm 300 lb. What's she? 100 lb max?
G.[/QUOTE]We each have our own pathway right? Everything is connected differently to God. Another member I was chatting with last night over dinner told me he was allergic to mango skin. We should be aware of our own pathway and realize what works for us, doesn't work for another and vice versa. Keeps us from judging. However there is such a thing as greater good we should all be following. This is call sacrificing. If not now, then in near future. Have a feeling the world is approaching the cross as in crossroads with life. Only one missing ingredient, so we all wait patiently.
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Beware of the Monster Within
The ego is an identity of our own construction. It's our beliefs we have about our personality, talents, abilities, life experience, relationships etc. It's the mental construct of our "self. " For many of us, we are controlled by our ego, or our sense of self and identity. It gives us a false sense of security of who or what we are, in a world full of lies. Instead of seeing everyone and everything as equals, the ego forces us to categorize, making greater and lesser, of people, experiences, thoughts, places, and emotions. The ego forces us to think that some things are wrong and some are right, thus breeding hatred and resentment amongst each other. Now you see why there is so much inequalities in the world.
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Maybe the future
GoGo bar girls from Rainbow, now working private karaoke.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2457969]GoGo bar girls from Rainbow, now working private karaoke.[/QUOTE]lol lol lol.
They are beautiful.
The most important thing is to be able to touch everything below.
If that's how I am ok to come back to Thailand (I can't wait).
I can even sing in the karaoke if you dance while.
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[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2458009]lol lol lol.
They are beautiful.
The most important thing is to be able to touch everything below.
If that's how I am ok to come back to Thailand (I can't wait).
I can even sing in the karaoke if you dance while.[/QUOTE]These Thai girls have been exported to Japan to cater, sing, serve, and be the sluts of the Yakuza. The white girls just weren't cutting it. The pitch on their moans were off.
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True meaning 69
Yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Future meets the past? Without evil, there cannot be good. If we are in hell, then heaven exists? So if there is a devil, so must there be a God.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2457323]Not mine at all. These were found on internet. Who would do such a thing?[/QUOTE]Ohh ya we believe you (sarcasm intended). You have taken them all from internet.
The bedsheet matches in most of them, are just a coincidence?
You testing our intelligence or You assume we won't notice?
ROFLMAO.
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Arch
Most of the official sources pronounce it "arch". It comes from "Alpha-Roh-Chi", "great" or "high" in Greek, which would be pronounced "arch" but the chi can be a little softer than the English "ch". This is the case in Archbishop. However, Archangel is actually pronounced "arc or ark. " Isn't that a bit strange? Or is there a good reason?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458055]Yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Future meets the past? Without evil, there cannot be good. If we are in hell, then heaven exists? So if there is a devil, so must there be a God.[/QUOTE]The oldest text developed on the yin-yang system was found in the tomb of Mawangdui, dating from 168 BC. The manuscript develops a binary logic:
"In any evaluation, you have to be aware of these two major entities, yin and yang.
The sky is yang, the earth yin, spring is yang, autumn yin; summer is yang, winter yin; etc. " (Mawangdui manuscript).
They are not absolute correspondences, insofar as they are only attributed within a friendship of opposites.
Therefore, one cannot really say that something is Yin, that something else is Yang. It would be more accurate to say that something is more Yin compared to something that is more Yang. For example, the upward movement is Yang compared to the downward movement which is Yin.
In everything there is Yin and Yang, as the famous symbol of Tai Ji illustrates, because it is the interaction of these two forces that create movement, Qi, energy. And as some quantum physicists say: matter and energy are actually one and the same thing.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458055]Yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Future meets the past? Without evil, there cannot be good. If we are in hell, then heaven exists? So if there is a devil, so must there be a God.[/QUOTE]Nah, just the pecker and the holes.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2458162]Nah, just the pecker and the holes.[/QUOTE]Yes. Pecker is Yang and holes is yin.
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Relentless
(Itsy Bitsy Spider).
The itsy bitsy spider crawled up the water spout.
Down came the rain, and washed the spider out.
Out came the sun, and dried up all the rain.
And the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again.
(Moral of the story: Don't stop believing and don't quit).
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Energizer Bunny
The term "Energizer Bunny" has entered the vernacular as a term for anything that continues endlessly, or someone that has immense stamina. Thus I keep going and going and going.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458302](Itsy Bitsy Spider).
The itsy bitsy spider crawled up the water spout.
Down came the rain, and washed the spider out.
Out came the sun, and dried up all the rain.
And the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again.
(Moral of the story: Don't stop believing and don't quit).[/QUOTE]You are clearly raising the level with these new photos. I would put the post of the last photos (The Impossible Made Possible) on the account of a transient weakness or of having drunk a little too much which has affected your judgment, this also happens to me.
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[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2458637]I would put the post of the last photos (The Impossible Made Possible) on the account of a transient weakness or of having drunk a little too much which has affected your judgment, this also happens to me.[/QUOTE]ISG seems filled with guys picking only absolute stunners these days.
I would gladly give a try to that girl if given the chance.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458055]Yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Future meets the past? Without evil, there cannot be good. If we are in hell, then heaven exists? So if there is a devil, so must there be a God.[/QUOTE]No biggie Monkey just trying to be helpful but to avoid any suggestion of plagiarisation and because it is traditionally the polite way of using somebody else's text may I suggest you use quotation marks or at least a reference to the source material in case anybody god forbid should mistakenly think what you post is your own material.
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Humble
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2458687]No biggie Monkey just trying to be helpful but to avoid any suggestion of plagiarisation and because it is traditionally the polite way of using somebody else's text may I suggest you use quotation marks or at least a reference to the source material in case anybody god forbid should mistakenly think what you post is your own material.[/QUOTE]None of what we write is our own ideas. Think about that. We are born from nothing. It's all a blank slate, especially with me. Think of me as a median to which spirits are communicating through. So I cannot take credit for my creativity. I owe it to "them. " It's all plagiarism because we are living in a story called Life and perhaps written by God. And who is "Like God?" Hopefully you have been following me closely.
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Why is 42 the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything?
A great question to ponder after you both have cummed. This is my answer. Is there a better one out there?
42 = Rainbow = 7 Rays of Light = 7 Archangels (Army of Angels) = Force of God.
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Free Will
I say there is no such thing. Remember, it's still the devil's world and the force it exerts has a very strong grasp on all of the spirits here. We think those unseen forces that control us, like stress, social pressure, norms, and so on, is of our own doing, but it's not. If your answers to "why you act the way you act in life" are all because of me, myself, my decision or anything else besides unseen forces at work, then that sure sounds like ego talking. We humans are without "true free will," because why would we choose freely to suffer in torment? Our decisions are all guided, influenced, and controlled by external and internal forces. You don't step into an elevator and stand the direction you stand all because of your own free will.
She wanted good friends or maybe more. Monkeypaw gave her more.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458842]None of what we write is our own ideas. Think about that. We are born from nothing. It's all a blank slate, especially with me. Think of me as a median to which spirits are communicating through. So I cannot take credit for my creativity. I owe it to "them. " It's all plagiarism because we are living in a story called Life and perhaps written by God. And who is "Like God?" Hopefully you have been following me closely.[/QUOTE]I agree Monkey "None of what we write is our own idea" is true for some posters who copy and paste from Wikipedia but most of us use our life experiences to learn and develop our individual thinking and creativity.
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OK boomer
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2458656]ISG seems filled with guys picking only absolute stunners these days.
I would gladly give a try to that girl if given the chance.[/QUOTE]What do you think.
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She look nice and I must say your girl selection is nice
[QUOTE=ManOfLove;2459312]What do you think.[/QUOTE]She look nice and I must say your girl selection is nice.
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[QUOTE=ManOfLove;2459312]What do you think.[/QUOTE]What's your point?
She is not even Thai.
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[QUOTE=ManOfLove;2459312]What do you think.[/QUOTE]These are stunners.
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Big (C)
Been stalking a chick who works at Big (C) for a few weeks now. Gave her my own Big (C) Her ass is so amazing. She didn't ask for money, but gave her 1000 to go away. That's how it's done. Shopping and seeing all the crap in the store reminds me of some thing I learned in school.
1. Remember, an economy is just the production and consumption of goods and services.
2. You can't have production without work.
3. You can't have consumption without spending.
4. So a booming economy just means people work more and buy more.
5. And booming economy is achieved by making people "want" things they don't need.
Is it worth your health?
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2459452]What's your point?
She is not even Thai.[/QUOTE]She is available in BKK.
Is the girl below Thai enough for you?
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[QUOTE=ManOfLove;2459579]She is available in BKK.
Is the girl below Thai enough for you?[/QUOTE]I love her! Could you give me her info? How can I reach her in BKK?
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The Crying Game
Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie.
Kissed the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play.
Georgie Porgie ran away.
Remember there is no such thing as good or bad people. There are just acts. Acts that can be considered good, bad, better or worse. Even Hitler was for humane treatment of animals and was against animal testing.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2459519]Been stalking a chick who works at Big (C) for a few weeks now. Gave her my own Big (C) Her ass is so amazing. She didn't ask for money, but gave her 1000 to go away. That's how it's done. Shopping and seeing all the crap in the store reminds me of some thing I learned in school.
1. Remember, an economy is just the production and consumption of goods and services.
2. You can't have production without work.
3. You can't have consumption without spending.
4. So a booming economy just means people work more and buy more.
5. And booming economy is achieved by making people "want" things they don't need.
Is it worth your health?[/QUOTE]And what do you think of my girl? Found in a nice bar in soi 13 in BKK just before the confinement.
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On the top
So Thailand has been Coronavirus free for over 3 weeks now. All cases have been imported from other countries via repatriation Of Thai citizens. Then what do you call it when Myanmar repatriated it's own citizens that were deported from Thailand on June 8 and then tested positive? How and where and when did they catch it? These people here can manipulate all these cases and numbers to however they want to those who believe this shit. Myanmar is considered a travel bubble country because of low infection rate, yet they are one of the least transparent and most corrupt countries. Why not just tell the world Thailand needs cheap slavery and migrant workers? The best liars may come up on top of all this pandemic crisis. Speaking of on top.
Do you like them to saddle and ride, bounce, grind, or slide?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2459858]So Thailand has been Coronavirus free for over 3 weeks now. All cases have been imported from other countries via repatriation Of Thai citizens. Then what do you call it when Myanmar repatriated it's own citizens that were deported from Thailand on June 8 and then tested positive? How and where and when did they catch it? These people here can manipulate all these cases and numbers to however they want to those who believe this shit. Myanmar is considered a travel bubble country because of low infection rate, yet they are one of the least transparent and most corrupt countries. Why not just tell the world Thailand needs cheap slavery and migrant workers? The best liars may come up on top of all this pandemic crisis. Speaking of on top.
Do you like them to saddle and ride, bounce, grind, or slide?[/QUOTE]I don't care if they lie or not about the number of cases of Covid 19. I just want buy my plane ticket to come back Thailand and Cambodia and fuck BBFS!
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Spain
Watch out for Spain. The eyes in Thailand are staring hard. By the way in Treetown, somebody from the BIG police wanted to show those in immigration, who has the bigger dick. Speaking of, I'm glad I'm just 1-1-1. (1 inch, 1 minute, for 1000 baht). Saves me a shit load of money to pay for cheap pizza.
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Tight enough muff
Met a chick with one of those muffs that makes you want to bust in less than a minute. Had to concentrate in order to last at least 20 minutes with her. She's not the prettiest little thing on TF, but for 1000 baht, it's better than going to the gym.
Little Miss Muffet.
Sat on a tuffet.
Eating her curds and whey.
Along came a spider.
Who sat down beside get.
And frightened Miss Muffet away.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2460313]Met a chick with one of those muffs that makes you want to bust in less than a minute. Had to concentrate in order to last at least 20 minutes with her. She's not the prettiest little thing on TF, but for 1000 baht, it's better than going to the gym.
Little Miss Muffet.
Sat on a tuffet.
Eating her curds and whey.
Along came a spider.
Who sat down beside get.
And frightened Miss Muffet away.[/QUOTE]I can notice that you fuck her bareback! I think all the men fuck their working girl bareback in Patt now?
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Jack Sprat
Lots of chicks eat. This one always pigging and never gains weight. I eat seafood with a Diet Coke. Don't eat meat. They forget my clams. Later I go searching for a pearl in her little hairless clam. Monkeypaw! That ain't no oyster to be looking your pearl. Don't care, need to unload my oyster sauce somewhere. Left those clams gaping wide when they met the shocker for a good 10 minutes.
A glimpse at the menu.
1. Seafood OK.
2. Lab grown meat OK.
3. Plant based OK.
4. Eggs OK.
5. Cheese OK.
6. Milk not okay.
8. The rest, if it breathed, don't expect to be allowed to eat it.
Jack Sprat could eat no fat.
His wife could eat no lean.
And so betwixt them both.
They licked the platter clean.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2460353]I can notice that you fuck her bareback! I think all the men fuck their working girl bareback in Patt now?[/QUOTE]Nice way to catch an STD or get sick. I like myself too much. It called self discipline.
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Losing it all
Yeah, those who think they are on top and in control, eventually will lose it all. Days are numbered when the top cop is on your ass.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2460493]Lots of chicks eat. This one always pigging and never gains weight. I eat seafood with a Diet Coke. Don't eat meat. They forget my clams. Later I go searching for a pearl in her little hairless clam. Monkeypaw! That ain't no oyster to be looking your pearl. Don't care, need to unload my oyster sauce somewhere. Left those clams gaping wide when they met the shocker for a good 10 minutes.
A glimpse at the menu.
1. Seafood OK.
2. Lab grown meat OK.
3. Plant based OK.
4. Eggs OK..[/QUOTE]You started taking interest in photography now taking interest in poetry. It seems the pandemic is taking the best out of your creative side. Will look forward to see and hear some more concrete poetry. Keep up the good work.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2460565]Nice way to catch an STD or get sick. I like myself too much. It called self discipline.[/QUOTE]I take only fresh and young sexy girls in good health. I never catch any STD. And now you can use PREPS to be sure you ll not catch anything.
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Rainy night
I was bored at around midnight. Hit her up on ThaiFriendly. She was broke. We bumped. It was raining a bit. Drizzling outside while I drizzled inside all over her ass. Rubbed that natural milky lotion all over her skin. She didn't like that. Oh well, 1200 made her pretend pretty well.
It's raining, it's pouring.
The old man is snoring.
He bumped his head and went to bed.
And he couldn't get up in the morning.
P.S. Covid Is just an excuse, so not have to admit dependency on foreign money for survival.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2461010]I was bored at around midnight. Hit her up on ThaiFriendly. She was broke. We bumped. It was raining a bit. Drizzling outside while I drizzled inside all over her ass. Rubbed that natural milky lotion all over her skin. She didn't like that. Oh well, 1200 made her pretend pretty well.
It's raining, it's pouring.
The old man is snoring.
He bumped his head and went to bed.
And he couldn't get up in the morning.
P.S. Covid Is just an excuse, so not have to admit dependency on foreign money for survival.[/QUOTE]Her name is Pammy. Had the pleasure in February.
Rob Jones.
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Three Little Monkeys
After awhile, and so much fucking, many of these girls look the same to me. My memory is getting bad. Maybe something is wrong with Monkeypaw's head. Have to invent new sex positions on the go to keep from being bored.
Three little monkeys jumping on the bed.
One fell down and bumped her head.
Mama called the doctor and the doctor said.
No more monkeys jumping on the bed!
Two little monkeys jumping on the bed.
One fell down and bumped his head.
Mama called the doctor and the doctor said.
No more monkeys jumping on the bed!
One little monkey jumping on the bed.
She fell down and bumped her head.
Mama called the doctor and the doctor said.
Put those monkeys back to bed!
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Little Boy Blue
Little Boy Blue, come blow your horn.
The sheep's in the meadow, the cow's in the corn.
What! Is this the way you mind your sheep.
Under the haycock fast asleep?
Massage and fuck for 1200. We all have free access to ThaiFriendly wherever we are at in the world. My specks are females, 18-29,50 kg max. Why isn't anyone sending girls my way if they think she's worth a fuck. If you like her, and want Monkeypaw to do a test run and I approve of her looks, you get a free review of the girl. Folks on here are quiet as mice. End of the world, what else is there to do but share?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2461010]I was bored at around midnight. Hit her up on ThaiFriendly. She was broke. We bumped. It was raining a bit. Drizzling outside while I drizzled inside all over her ass. Rubbed that natural milky lotion all over her skin. She didn't like that. Oh well, 1200 made her pretend pretty well.
It's raining, it's pouring.
The old man is snoring.
He bumped his head and went to bed.
And he couldn't get up in the morning.
P.S. Covid Is just an excuse, so not have to admit dependency on foreign money for survival.[/QUOTE]She's looking so nice. Can you give me her Line or Whasapp? Or Facebook please. I'll share my girls with you if you want. Did you fuck her bareback?
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A Star
She works at a 5 Star hotel. Tonight she was a porn star. So she talks a lot because she's a guest relations manager. Best thing about her BJ was the 10 minutes of silence.
Twinkle twinkle little star.
How I wonder what you are.
Up above the world so high.
Like a diamond in the sky.
Twinkle twinkle little star.
How I wonder what you are.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2462113]She's looking so nice. Can you give me her Line or Whasapp? Or Facebook please. I'll share my girls with you if you want. Did you fuck her bareback?[/QUOTE]Not sure. Need to see your cards. So far I have not been impressed, even with my own selections. I come from way much better than this. Pretend I am an alien from outer space, occupying this human body. And people have been showing me what they like to do, eat, and fuck? I just shake my head on this strange body I have taken over.
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(R) as in (Rafael)
It rained on the first night the bars opened. So I kept myself busy with a little spinner who goes deep.
Spinning top,
Never stop!
Keep on whirling.
Keep on twirling.
Round, round,
On the ground.
Spinning, spinning, oh!
While you spin around and 'round.
Whirling, twirling, on the ground.
Spinning top,
Never stop!
Spinning, spinning, oh!
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Covert filming
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2463038]It rained on the first night the bars opened. So I kept myself busy with a little spinner who goes deep.
Spinning top,
Never stop!
Keep on whirling.
Keep on twirling.
Round, round,
On the ground.
Spinning, spinning, oh!
While you spin around and 'round.
Whirling, twirling, on the ground.
Spinning top,
Never stop!
Spinning, spinning, oh![/QUOTE]Monkey Ass.
You have sunk to a new low covertly filming girls.
A real crass act.
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[QUOTE=RobJones;2465264]Monkey Ass.
You have sunk to a new low covertly filming girls.
A real crass act.[/QUOTE]Covert filming is crass, but sharing it on a public forum with the girl's face visible (while you edit out your own face) is way worse.
There I go, joining the moralizing *****monger brigade.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2465545]Covert filming is crass, but sharing it on a public forum with the girl's face visible (while you edit out your own face) is way worse.
There I go, joining the moralizing *****monger brigade.[/QUOTE]Our hobby is not the most savoring but keeping some respect is not that hard. At best this guy hides under a baseball cap with the visor down so obviously his ignominy is far more important then anyone else's.
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[QUOTE=RobJones;2465620]Our hobby is not the most savoring but keeping some respect is not that hard. At best this guy hides under a baseball cap with the visor down so obviously his ignominy is far more important then anyone else's.[/QUOTE]Do you mean you prefer to see all the faces hidden?
As far as I know, he is not avoiding anyone. Other board members know him. He already told us how he can be recognized and it is not that hard.
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At 555 and the End
One Last Pattaya Round Up.
LK Metro: Most bars are opened, but the only GoGo bars are Lady Love and Crystal Club. Plenty of girls not a lot of customers. Girls still meh in terms of looks. Nothing for me here. 555.
Walking Street: 70% of businesses still closed. Ibar is okay, but Insomnia is closed. 808 is full (but I don't like) and Lucifer is empty. The only GoGo bars open are Doll House, Windmill, Coco, Glass House, Pacha, Annabel, Bliss, Palace, Tantra, Pin Up, Moon Club. The two best and the only ones worth a damn are Palace and Pin Up. Drink prices are up at both (and all bars), but barfines have dropped 600/1500 coyote / model at Palace with only 40-50 girls showing up for work. Pin Up is 1000/1500 coyote / model, but has 100-120 girls working. But there is only a handful of new GoGo bar model girls that I am willing to bang.
Soi 6: 80% of bars are opened with Dolls as only GoGo bar. Only few bars girls wear the sexy revealing outfits anymore. Too much hiding of the bodies going on with them dressing like they hitting up the mall. That shit scares me. Still lots of girls, not sure if I want to play the guess what's beneath these clothes game with them.
[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2465141]Thank you for giving us a little hope in all these gloomy perspectives. We really need it.
But may I ask you a question? Who is this mysterious MonkeyPaw you talk about all the time?[/QUOTE]Do a quick Google search of "Monkeypaw" and you come up with Monkeypaw Productions. The media company is known for producing the horror films "Get Out (2017)" and "Us (2019). " I chose this handle and joined ISG way way back before these movies came out. But you asked, "who is the mysterious Monkeypaw?" There is your first clue, plus I will point out some more that's on ISG. See if you can figure it out with Google. 555.
1. Get Out and Us.
2. My favorite color is blue (I say this over and over).
3. In the Bangkok Reports, the screen name MichaelSamael (split the names and you will get the names of two different what?
4. #48263 Bangkok Report is titled "Star of Light".
5. ACRONYM left behind with my posts.
The Magic Number 555.
Crazy thing is back in April of 2019, Monkeypaw posted on social media, a photo of the oil painting called "Triumph of Death" by Pieter Bruegel the Elder with the below captions, "The end is near. " Historians believe the painting to be a moral statement about the spread of disease, death, and chaos due to the great plagues that had swept through Europe during that era. For awhile now and even way before the first case of COIVID-19, I told many of the folks around me including a few ISG members to travel and do what's left on the bucket list before all this. Is Monkeypaw able to speak the future or is the future spoken through me?
I told them all to come to Thailand for the end of the world. Anybody figure out why Thailand and Pattaya is so COVID-19 free? There is no social distancing, partying continues, masks are unworn, social gatherings everywhere, and rules are constantly being broken. But yet, hospitalizations and infection numbers are null. Nobody is sick. Is it because Monkeypaw is here? Is it that "aura" that follows me wherever I go? I may be home and safe, where I wait patiently and enjoy the rest of time banging girls and getting massages before it kicks off. It's just too bad there is no competition or weekend warriors to mess with. This is too easy.
The infamous number 555 and what it actually means. You see this all the time in Thailand and hahaha comes to mind. However, a quick Google search of the terms "meaning of 555" comes up with, "number 5 is a powerful number in many forms of divine reading. 5 represents freedom, exploration, travel, (which I have been doing the last 5 years as a nomad) and change. *555* is a triple of the number 5 indicating which amplifies power 555 indicates that a change is coming. " Take heed the previous sentence that an even "bigger" change is coming, more so than the change that is already taken place with COVID-19. And don't think of it as the end. It's better you just see it as a new beginning. But even I can't guarantee you a spot in this future.
555 is where it ends.
P.S. Can't fake the enjoyment that only Monkeylove can give you.
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Haha, that's a great photo series. My favorite yet. You have really got the angle down and the screen grabs perfect on the O face. Personally I always thought that was one of the best porn angles, the expression on the girl's face while getting it doggy. Some extra occasional tits for balance and who can ask for me. I miss the mirrors around the rooms in Bangkok rooms, but giving it to her spoon you can normally get the same expression and be able to see it without the mirror.
Keep up the good photo work, I see real promise in that work.
BTW, the reference for my name was actually from the character in the La Femme Nikita movies and films. And it also worked as a name I could in real life when needing anonymity.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466313]One Last Pattaya Round Up.
LK Metro: Most bars are opened, but the only GoGo bars are Lady Love and Crystal Club. Plenty of girls not a lot of customers. Girls still meh in terms of looks. Nothing for me here. 555.
Walking Street: 70% of businesses still closed. Ibar is okay, but Insomnia is closed. 808 is full (but I don't like) and Lucifer is empty. The only GoGo bars open are Doll House, Windmill, Coco, Glass House, Pacha, Annabel, Bliss, Palace, Tantra, Pin Up, Moon Club. The two best and the only ones worth a damn are Palace and Pin Up. Drink prices are up at both (and all bars), but barfines have dropped 600/1500 coyote / model at Palace with only 40-50 girls showing up for work. Pin Up is 1000/1500 coyote / model, but has 100-120 girls working. But there is only a handful of new GoGo bar model girls that I am willing to bang.
Soi 6: 80% of bars are opened with Dolls as only GoGo bar. Only few bars girls wear the sexy revealing outfits anymore. Too much hiding of the bodies going on with them dressing like they hitting up the mall. That shit scares me. Still lots of girls, not sure if I want to play the guess what's beneath these clothes game with them.
Do a quick Google search of "Monkeypaw" and you come up with Monkeypaw Productions. The media company is known for producing the horror films "Get Out (2017)" and "Us (2019). " I chose this handle and joined ISG way way back before these movies came out. But you asked, "who is the mysterious Monkeypaw?" There is your first clue, plus I will point out some more that's on ISG. See if you can figure it out with Google. 555.
1. Get Out and Us.
2. My favorite color is blue (I say this over and over).
3. In the Bangkok Reports, the screen name MichaelSamael (split the names and you will get the names of two different what?
4. #48263 Bangkok Report is titled "Star of Light".
5. ACRONYM left behind with my posts.
The Magic Number 555.
Crazy thing is back in April of 2019, Monkeypaw posted on social media, a photo of the oil painting called "Triumph of Death" by Pieter Bruegel the Elder with the below captions, "The end is near. " Historians believe the painting to be a moral statement about the spread of disease, death, and chaos due to the great plagues that had swept through Europe during that era. For awhile now and even way before the first case of COIVID-19, I told many of the folks around me including a few ISG members to travel and do what's left on the bucket list before all this. Is Monkeypaw able to speak the future or is the future spoken through me?
I told them all to come to Thailand for the end of the world. Anybody figure out why Thailand and Pattaya is so COVID-19 free? There is no social distancing, partying continues, masks are unworn, social gatherings everywhere, and rules are constantly being broken. But yet, hospitalizations and infection numbers are null. Nobody is sick. Is it because Monkeypaw is here? Is it that "aura" that follows me wherever I go? I may be home and safe, where I wait patiently and enjoy the rest of time banging girls and getting massages before it kicks off. It's just too bad there is no competition or weekend warriors to mess with. This is too easy.
The infamous number 555 and what it actually means. You see this all the time in Thailand and hahaha comes to mind. However, a quick Google search of the terms "meaning of 555" comes up with, "number 5 is a powerful number in many forms of divine reading. 5 represents freedom, exploration, travel, (which I have been doing the last 5 years as a nomad) and change. *555* is a triple of the number 5 indicating which amplifies power 555 indicates that a change is coming. " Take heed the previous sentence that an even "bigger" change is coming, more so than the change that is already taken place with COVID-19. And don't think of it as the end. It's better you just see it as a new beginning. But even I can't guarantee you a spot in this future.
555 is where it ends.
P.S. Can't fake the enjoyment that only Monkeylove can give you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466313]Do a quick Google search of "Monkeypaw" and you come up with Monkeypaw Productions. The media company is known for producing the horror films "Get Out (2017)" and "Us (2019). " I chose this handle and joined ISG way way back before these movies came out.[/QUOTE]I always thought of the W. W. Jacobs story "The Monkey's Paw" that I had to read in high school.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466313]Drink prices are up at both (and all bars), but barfines have dropped 600/1500 coyote / model at Palace with only 40-50 girls showing up for work. Pin Up is 1000/1500 coyote / model, but has 100-120 girls working. [/QUOTE]I find it surprising that barfines have dropped. That certainly goes against Thai norm.
Do you still have to wear a mask in Thailand? If so, are masks abolished inside gogo bars? Can't DFK with a mask on!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2466605]Do you still have to wear a mask in Thailand? If so, are masks abolished inside gogo bars? Can't DFK with a mask on![/QUOTE]You only really have to wear a mask like inside of the grocery store. Most other places that they check you at the door you can just take the mask off once you get inside. You still are supposed to scan or sign in to everywhere though, except bars I guess.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466313]
I told them all to come to Thailand for the end of the world. Anybody figure out why Thailand and Pattaya is so COVID-19 free? There is no social distancing, partying continues, masks are unworn, social gatherings everywhere, and rules are constantly being broken. But yet, hospitalizations and infection numbers are null. Nobody is sick. Is it because Monkeypaw is here? Is it that "aura" that follows me wherever I go? [/QUOTE]Go to Florida and join in the partying, no social distancing, no mask, social gatherings everywhere and see if that aura follows you there too.
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3 wishes
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2466601]I always thought of the W. W. Jacobs story "The Monkey's Paw" that I had to read in high school.[/QUOTE]If I was ever in that position (maybe I was), my 3 wishes.
1. To not want.
2. To be like God.
3. An infinite number of more wishes.
Just saying.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2466605]I find it surprising that barfines have dropped. That certainly goes against Thai norm.
Do you still have to wear a mask in Thailand? If so, are masks abolished inside gogo bars? Can't DFK with a mask on![/QUOTE]Mask are worn same like helmets just like Mr. E said. Every bar is diff. At the minimum they have to either have a face shield or mask. The face shields can be lifted until the warning comes to put it on. The masks in their hands or on chin or within reach until the warning comes. Basically, you will miss nothing if you were here about the experience. Even the X out tables for social distancing is gone after it begins to get crowded. Windmill was no different, just the number of girls and the higher drink prices. But Go Go bars are operating at 20-30% full staff of girls, if they are even open at all. I negotiated both my ST at Palace for 2000 and 2500, not 3000. While I was there from 9-11, only 3 girls were barfined including mine. But here is the catch, the girls are still not going to accept a customer that they didn't accept before. My buddy was rejected on his barfine attempt. They may be needy, but they still aren't desperate.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2466652]Go to Florida and join in the partying, no social distancing, no mask, social gatherings everywhere and see if that aura follows you there too.[/QUOTE]Why the heck would I do that? People are praying and wishing that they can be in my spot. You think God would just let this thing called COVID-19 ruin my reward?
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[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2466578]Haha, that's a great photo series. My favorite yet. You have really got the angle down and the screen grabs perfect on the O face. Personally I always thought that was one of the best porn angles, the expression on the girl's face while getting it doggy. Some extra occasional tits for balance and who can ask for me. I miss the mirrors around the rooms in Bangkok rooms, but giving it to her spoon you can normally get the same expression and be able to see it without the mirror.
Keep up the good photo work, I see real promise in that work.
BTW, the reference for my name was actually from the character in the La Femme Nikita movies and films. And it also worked as a name I could in real life when needing anonymity.[/QUOTE]Pun on your name "Michael and Samael". Very interesting find on a Google search.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466700]But Go Go bars are operating at 20-30% full staff of girls, if they are even open at all.[/QUOTE]Just today I saw on Facebook a couple of gogo girls say something resembling See you next week Pattaya. Won't be long until they're back.
I do miss just sitting around at gogo bars and people watching. Notwithstanding missing some of my favorite gogo girls at Palace like Cat Ear Girl, Cutest girl ever Mook, and Panda, oddly I miss sitting in Sensations the most during my time away. Weird I know.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2466929]Just today I saw on Facebook a couple of gogo girls say something resembling See you next week Pattaya. Won't be long until they're back.
I do miss just sitting around at gogo bars and people watching. Notwithstanding missing some of my favorite gogo girls at Palace like Cat Ear Girl, Cutest girl ever Mook, and Panda, oddly I miss sitting in Sensations the most during my time away. Weird I know.[/QUOTE]You know all the requirements they've listed for medical tourism can be "temporary" right?
1. Contact a doc in Pattaya or Bangkok to book an appointment for testosterone therapy or some type of medical procedure. Even dental work counts. That should get you a letter to present to the Thai Embassy. You can always change your mind or discontinue treatment.
2. Get the COViD insurance added to your reg insurance or get separate. Where I come from and most people come from, you are only charged the prorated amount for insurance that you keep it. Have the policy to start day of travel and then cancel that shit when you are already inside Thailand.
3. The quarantine is no problem if you plan on staying here awhile.
My thought is that if Thailand lead the world in infections but was still open for travel and mongering, that would have stopped none of us. We are rule breakers from day 1.
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Some brits in the early covid days were at deaths door with covid but the Thai press has deleted the storys on their sites as they were worried about tourists.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7993521/Drug-dealer-extradited-Thailand-collapses-Oxfordshire-jail-suspected-coronavirus.html[/URL]
He was fine when he left us! Thailand's health ministry insists British 'drug dealer' who collapsed in HMP Bullingdon 'with coronavirus' was definitely 'fit to travel' when he was transferred to the UK from a Thai jail.
Mark Rumble, 31, was extradited back to the UK from Thailand on January 27.
He reportedly collapsed in his cell at HMP Bullingdon, near Bicester on Monday.
Rumble was reportedly sent back to the UK to face class A drug supply charges.
He and two other prison inmates are now being tested for the killer coronavirus.
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2466313]
I told them all to come to Thailand for the end of the world. [/QUOTE]Thank you MonkeyPaw for your very complete answer. In fact I asked this question because you often talk about yourself in the 3rd person. In France only the king could speak in the 3rd person (The king says "we want"). It was a little joke with sympathy.
You are absolutely right, and many other painters have represented epidemic plagues like Michel Serre or Jerome Bosch (himself dead from the black plague) in "the last judgment". Europe has, at all times, been ravaged by pandemics which have caused hundreds of millions of deaths such as plagues, cholera, flu or even syphillis. It seems we have forgotten about it now. But contagious diseases don't forget us.
And yes, enjoy life as much as we can. I still hope that I will be able to return to Pattaya before the end of the world, at least before the last judgment because I suppose that we have more fun in Hell than in Paradise.
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MonkeyPaw
In a previous post you stated, "But here is the catch, the girls are still not going to accept a customer that they didn't accept before. My buddy was rejected on his barfine attempt. They may be needy, but they still aren't desperate".
I'm accustomed to Mexico where rejection is rare (assuming you don't look and smell like Jabba the Hut) as long as you can pay her asking price. Can you provide more context because I'm intrigued by the bar girls being so selective regarding who they allow to barfine them?
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[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2467032]In a previous post you stated, "But here is the catch, the girls are still not going to accept a customer that they didn't accept before. My buddy was rejected on his barfine attempt. They may be needy, but they still aren't desperate".
I'm accustomed to Mexico where rejection is rare (assuming you don't look and smell like Jabba the Hut) as long as you can pay her asking price. Can you provide more context because I'm intrigued by the bar girls being so selective regarding who they allow to barfine them?[/QUOTE]Banana Boi can probably tell you more than me, but Go Go bar girls in Pattaya have a mind of their own to why or why not they do things. The best way for me to explain this is to use empathy. Pretend you walk into a Go Go bar and you have a set of standards for girls you are willing to spend money on and fuck. You know your own worth and limits to what they look like and what you are willing to accept. So you are able to fuck this "class" of girls within your range. One day you walk into the same bar and all those girls that are in your range are gone. Do you then start wanting to fuck the nastier or more gross looking ones just because your standard girls are gone? Probably not. What if it's for free? What if I paid you? For me probably not as well. That's what I mean if they gave you the fuck off look before, they will still give you the fuck off look now. So guys who think that it's easy pickings for them to get top talent just because of COVID, have another think coming.
P.S. : Remember, it may have nothing to with looks or age, but rather they thought a customer was just too strange or threw off.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2467153]Banana Boi can probably tell you more than me, but Go Go bar girls in Pattaya have a mind of their own to why or why not they do things. The best way for me to explain this is to use empathy. Pretend you walk into a Go Go bar and you have a set of standards for girls you are willing to spend money on and fuck. You know your own worth and limits to what they look like and what you are willing to accept. So you are able to fuck this "class" of girls within your range. One day you walk into the same bar and all those girls that are in your range are gone. Do you then start wanting to fuck the nastier or more gross looking ones just because your standard girls are gone? Probably not. What if it's for free? What if I paid you? For me probably not as well. That's what I mean if they gave you the fuck off look before, they will still give you the fuck off look now. So guys who think that it's easy pickings for them to get top talent just because of COVID, have another think coming.
P.S. : Remember, it may have nothing to with looks or age, but rather they thought a customer was just too strange or threw off.[/QUOTE]That all actually makes sense. Appreciate the insight.
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[QUOTE=Berrys66;2466991]Some brits in the early covid days were at deaths door with covid but the Thai press has deleted the storys on their sites as they were worried about tourists.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7993521/Drug-dealer-extradited-Thailand-collapses-Oxfordshire-jail-suspected-coronavirus.html[/URL]
He was fine when he left us! Thailand's health ministry insists British 'drug dealer' who collapsed in HMP Bullingdon 'with coronavirus' was definitely 'fit to travel' when he was transferred to the UK from a Thai jail.
Mark Rumble, 31, was extradited back to the UK from Thailand on January 27.
He reportedly collapsed in his cell at HMP Bullingdon, near Bicester on Monday.
Rumble was reportedly sent back to the UK to face class A drug supply charges.
He and two other prison inmates are now being tested for the killer coronavirus.
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?[/QUOTE]Thailand and Vietnam cases are all imported as they say. I wonder if the airplane trip itself triggers anything to have these people returning all testing positive and symptomatic? Why would they be allowed to exit a country and board an airplane with others if they were sick? And after they land, somehow test positive on arrival. Countries blaming each other. Even I'm getting quite confused about this virus. Must be the end of the world.
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P.S. : Remember, it may have nothing to with looks or age, but rather they thought a customer was just too strange or threw off.[/QUOTE]In your friend's case what you think maybe he did too strange or to throw them off?
American guys of asian ethnicity have probably never heard mama's line "she only go with asian man". I've heard it a hundred times in both BKK and Pattaya. I always buy mama a drink when I enter a place I haven't been long enough they won't remember me. Of course she sits next to me and as I ask about the girls I hear this line again and again. No need to even ask the hottest girls. They only go with asian man.
A couple times the mama drink paid off and she told the girl (probably a newbie) she had to go with me LOL. Ended well those times too.
I appreciate all your reports Monkeypaw. Always interesting and informative but mostly entertaining.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2467276]In your friend's case what you think maybe he did too strange or to throw them off?
American guys of asian ethnicity have probably never heard mama's line "she only go with asian man". I've heard it a hundred times in both BKK and Pattaya. I always buy mama a drink when I enter a place I haven't been long enough they won't remember me. Of course she sits next to me and as I ask about the girls I hear this line again and again. No need to even ask the hottest girls. They only go with asian man.
A couple times the mama drink paid off and she told the girl (probably a newbie) she had to go with me LOL. Ended well those times too.
I appreciate all your reports Monkeypaw. Always interesting and informative but mostly entertaining.[/QUOTE]When you are in the profession of fucking guys or girls after just knowing them 15-30 minutes, you develop a skill to weed out the crazies. True or false? The risk is just not worth the money. Same with guys who pay for sex. In my earlier mongering days, I could not peep out head cases when it came to girls, therefore there was a few drama cases with instances of the crazy hooker. I got better over time. Those minutes spent with a new girl when buying a drink is like an interview. If you fail it, more than likely it's pointless to keep trying. Let's say you call down a girl and buy her a drink. Up close and personal, she is not what you expect or you see flaws or maybe she seems like a loose cannon. After that drink, you don't buy more. She keeps coming back every time she sees you because the message is not clear. Those are the ones who I avoid. So I have no idea why the girl he liked turned him down. She was upper talent, so her people reading skills and intuition are probably very good. Better way of saying this is "there are creepy ass mf (s) up in a club. " Don't ever get the label or jacket placed on you by the girls. They will talk and your reputation will supersede you every time you enter the club. That's why I don't buy the notion that a guy with any brain will let be known to a girl that he seeks and wants only BBFS, with discussion taking place in the club. Makes no sense. All it takes is one girl to say "no," walk over to her girl friends and point at that creep who just try to negotiate BBFS and the jacket is then placed on him. To this day, I think guys who preach openly to ask for BBFS up front have a hidden agenda. Save that shit for inside the room, not the bar.
P.S. I was sitting with one of the mamasans from Pin Up last night. They did the ritual where the girl walks around naked throwing water everywhere while bells and tins where clanking for 5 minutes. I asked what they prayed for? She said for the Asian tourists to come back. The expat group here just ain't cutting it. My own bill was 1000 baht in drinks, but gave 1 to her and 1 to my waitress. The girls are Pin Up are bewildered. They see me every day, spend about 1000, but only bought 1 girl a drink. I'll write a report on Pin Up soon. But the girls are catching on. There is no money to be made and it's the end of the world.
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Don't believe it
[QUOTE=Berrys66;2466991]Some brits in the early covid days were at deaths door with covid but the Thai press has deleted the storys on their sites as they were worried about tourists.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7993521/Drug-dealer-extradited-Thailand-collapses-Oxfordshire-jail-suspected-coronavirus.html[/URL]
He was fine when he left us! Thailand's health ministry insists British 'drug dealer' who collapsed in HMP Bullingdon 'with coronavirus' was definitely 'fit to travel' when he was transferred to the UK from a Thai jail.
Mark Rumble, 31, was extradited back to the UK from Thailand on January 27.
He reportedly collapsed in his cell at HMP Bullingdon, near Bicester on Monday.
Rumble was reportedly sent back to the UK to face class A drug supply charges.
He and two other prison inmates are now being tested for the killer coronavirus.
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?[/QUOTE]Weird post out of the blue. Wrong too. Not surprising given the sensationalist tabloid source.
This guy tested negative for Covid as seen here [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-51962699[/URL].
It was thought he played up the Covid story for sympathy and preferential treatment at the time of his extradition and arrival in UK prison.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2467276]In your friend's case what you think maybe he did too strange or to throw them off?[/QUOTE]She might have thought his dick was too big.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2467276]American guys of asian ethnicity have probably never heard mama's line "she only go with asian man". I've heard it a hundred times in both BKK and Pattaya. I always buy mama a drink when I enter a place I haven't been long enough they won't remember me. Of course she sits next to me and as I ask about the girls I hear this line again and again. No need to even ask the hottest girls. They only go with asian man.
A couple times the mama drink paid off and she told the girl (probably a newbie) she had to go with me LOL. Ended well those times too.[/QUOTE]Fuck what that lady is saying. You never know how the girl will feel that day. You might strike some curiosity button in her and she decides she wants to go with you. If a chick does not like or want me then I would have to hear it from the horse's mouth, not some mf across the room that has not even asked. I have fucked plenty of normal women that probably thought they would never fuck me, but once we got to talking and shit things took a turn.
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[QUOTE=Berrys66;2466991]Some brits in the early covid days were at deaths door with covid but the Thai press has deleted the storys on their sites as they were worried about tourists.[/QUOTE]The Thai press still has the story [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1856044/british-inmate-showed-no-sign-of-coronavirus-before-extradition[/URL] .
Mr Rumble did not have Covid. [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-51573339[/URL] "Mark Rumble was one of two inmates at HMP Bullingdon in Oxfordshire held in isolation earlier this month. The pair later tested negative for the illness. ".
What Mr Rumble does have is a sentence of 10 years and 8 months.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2467211]Thailand and Vietnam cases are all imported as they say. I wonder if the airplane trip itself triggers anything to have these people returning all testing positive and symptomatic? Why would they be allowed to exit a country and board an airplane with others if they were sick? And after they land, somehow test positive on arrival. Countries blaming each other. Even I'm getting quite confused about this virus. Must be the end of the world.[/QUOTE]MP,
A bit of perspective. The last numbers I saw the Thais had repatriated about 46,000 citizens of which only around 0. 5% had tested positive. Only returnees with symptoms are tested on arrival. Most are tested in quarantine about 3 days after arrival so that if they have been exposed there has been time for the virus to incubate. A lot of these positives are from people who display no symptoms. The time lag between exposure to the virus and it incubating to a detectable level can sometimes be quite long. Hence the 14 days quarantine.
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Gone Fishing
What will happen when they take away fishing? This is how you will have to hook, line, and sinker. Great way to catch those pesky trolls too.
One, Two, Three, Four, Five.
Once I caught a fish alive.
Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten.
Then I threw him back again.
Why did you let him go?
Because he bit my finger so.
Which finger did he bite?
This little finger on my right.
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[QUOTE=GettingFedUp;2467345]MP,
A bit of perspective. The last numbers I saw the Thais had repatriated about 46,000 citizens of which only around 0. 5% had tested positive. Only returnees with symptoms are tested on arrival. Most are tested in quarantine about 3 days after arrival so that if they have been exposed there has been time for the virus to incubate. A lot of these positives are from people who display no symptoms. The time lag between exposure to the virus and it incubating to a detectable level can sometimes be quite long. Hence the 14 days quarantine.[/QUOTE]I just get so confused with all the data that is put out there from country to country. I honestly think the only numbers that count are the hospitalizations, rate of hospitalizations, and deaths. Thailand has very few of these. Maybe because something "lucky" is here. Maybe its me and this light that I carry with me. Oh well, let me keep enjoying my piece of paradise. 555.
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Is she happy or sad?
She used to work Happy and it made her happy.
Now Happy is closed and she is sad.
Club Monkeypaw is open and it made her glad.
Bounce bounce a long time those tig ole bitties took.
As Monkeypaw pounded away and gave her the double fish hook.
I am glad to share my artistic side to my fellow followers for the end of the world. They're coming.
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I recognize the Happy girl. I like her.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2468372]I recognize the Happy girl. I like her.[/QUOTE]She works a different Go Go now, though I had her LINE contact via different method. She asked where I was from and I replied HK. She the proceeded to show up and have a session with me with her "make up" done to appease Koreans or Japanese which I do not like. I preferred her as in the pics. Thai girls don't realize that some of them have a certain appeal looking like the Thais on TV. No need to step across the border to copycat other Asian countries. Boobs are huge though.
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Numbers 6 and 9
[QUOTE=Turgid;2470423]Why are you posting photos of sexy Thai girls in this period of covid prevalence when guys can't go to Thailand? How many negative descriptions of your girls would it take for you to realize that you are making these guys jealous.[/QUOTE]If a pic is worth a 1000 words, then a video is worth countless more. Jealousy is what makes that silence "golden".
"Number 6 may be considered not only a symbol of a man, but also a symbol of a man-animal. Number 6 is also used as a symbol of sin and imperfection".
"The number 9 is a symbol of completeness of God and also a symbol of finality". So where is the evil in 69?
Yesterday, I was getting my sunglasses fixed at Top Charoen. Their company logo gave me a great idea. Been in Pattaya almost 5 months straight, ThaiFriendly has offered me the best hunting for new talent. However the Paw is getting bored. So having already fucked 67 girls from ThaiFriendly, Monkeypaw is going after these last two chicks and then cancel the ThaiFriendly subscription. I will try to get them to meet for a threesome by paying them extra, instead of 1500, maybe 2500 each. And then, offer another 500 each for them to 69 each other. My final ThaiFriendly number will be 69 girls with the last two, doing 69. This is the shit legends are made of. Am I legendary?
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6 and 9
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2470854]If a pic is worth a 1000 words, then a video is worth countless more. Jealousy is what makes that silence "golden".
"Number 6 may be considered not only a symbol of a man, but also a symbol of a man-animal. Number 6 is also used as a symbol of sin and imperfection".
"The number 9 is a symbol of completeness of God and also a symbol of finality". So where is the evil in 69?
Yesterday, I was getting my sunglasses fixed at Top Charoen. Their company logo gave me a great idea. Been in Pattaya almost 5 months straight, ThaiFriendly has offered me the best hunting for new talent. However the Paw is getting bored. So having already fucked 67 girls from ThaiFriendly, Monkeypaw is going after these last two chicks and then cancel the ThaiFriendly subscription. I will try to get them to meet for a threesome by paying them extra, instead of 1500, maybe 2500 each. And then, offer another 500 each for them to 69 each other. My final ThaiFriendly number will be 69 girls with the last two, doing 69. This is the shit legends are made of. Am I legendary?[/QUOTE]I find the girls' names interesting too if that is their real TF handle.
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Chaos before 69
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2470854]If a pic is worth a 1000 words, then a video is worth countless more. Jealousy is what makes that silence "golden".
"Number 6 may be considered not only a symbol of a man, but also a symbol of a man-animal. Number 6 is also used as a symbol of sin and imperfection".
"The number 9 is a symbol of completeness of God and also a symbol of finality". So where is the evil in 69?
Yesterday, I was getting my sunglasses fixed at Top Charoen. Their company logo gave me a great idea. Been in Pattaya almost 5 months straight, ThaiFriendly has offered me the best hunting for new talent. However the Paw is getting bored. So having already fucked 67 girls from ThaiFriendly, Monkeypaw is going after these last two chicks and then cancel the ThaiFriendly subscription. I will try to get them to meet for a threesome by paying them extra, instead of 1500, maybe 2500 each. And then, offer another 500 each for them to 69 each other. My final ThaiFriendly number will be 69 girls with the last two, doing 69. This is the shit legends are made of. Am I legendary?[/QUOTE]Somebody ask about this today. The numbers 6 and 9 is not yin yang in balance and harmony. The rotation of 69 is counter clockwise. Yin and yang is clockwise like (p) and (d) with curved tails. Both are Taichi symbols representing different stages of energy and life. But let's start from the beginning to where we are now today. It's called the building and storing phase of life. I like to call it "hell" and "chaos. " Doesn't the world seem that way? What if this thing you guys call "life" really wasn't life? And all along, this life up to this point in time was hell? This thing called COVID-19, disease, and inequality has been around since the beginning of time all over the world. I just that the inequities makes it less effective on certain groups. So as we are in a "pause" in life, what is the teaching moment here and now?
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The Counterclock
[QUOTE=Allover;2470956]I find the girls' names interesting too if that is their real TF handle.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely keen and correct. So many weird connections and epiphanies come my way in my life when I look back. The other day my hunting stops went on this pathway.
1. First stop Kelaya 66. Afternoon was spent on Soi 6 and Kelaya 66 Bar. It's a karaoke bar with a bit above average girls and higher drink prices than most Soi 6 bars. But the atmosphere is more like a gentleman's club with lots of fun games.
2. Then came "O" (Oochi). Early evening, got a message from a girl named "O," which is short for Oochi. "O" used to work Sapphire and now makes her money off ThaiFriendly. "O" wanted my opinion with a new tattoo. Ironically, both her and I are "cancers" in astrology and she was showing me a few options she was interested in. The chat ended up with talk about 69 ing and "O" ended meeting me in my room for a quick ST 69 and fuck for 1500. Funny thing is that I had my music on and when I unloaded, a Tekashi song was on the radio. Care to guess which? (Hint Billboard #1 in June with Nicky).
3. Dessert at Mr. 99. When we were done banging. We hit up Mr. 99 Seafood on Beach Road for some mango sticky rice with coconut ice cream. Strangely enough, is where I found Beach Road babe named Ning, to which I reviewed a long time ago. This thread was started because of Ning. Just a blast from the past.
Later that night, I went to stalk a hot Thai babe who works at the Top Charoen near Subway on Buakhao. That sign still trips me out every time I look at it. Then I end up on Walking Street, where I met another ISG member, BaliMassage at Pin Up. The latest update is not very good. Bliss is closed. Girls moved to Palace (which is less than 40 girls total each night). Annabelle closed. Girls moved to Windmill. Drink prices are expensive as fuck there. Pacha closed. Girls moved to Fahrenheit. I am still waiting for Palace and Fahrenheit to merge. It will give Pin Up, 100 plus girls nightly, some competition. Both clubs will have over 100 girls and can go "nuclear" option on each other. Meaning they work no hold barred for tips and lap dances like Windmill. Mad Max shit.
Mamasans all asked me when will airports open up. I explained to them the same as I have been preaching to everybody. Thailand is being told what they can and cannot do by the countries in the world with more power and leverage. Few Thais will understand this as they are so prideful about their people and their country. But Thailand is not in control of their own fate and economy. They just need to spin it in a way that their own people won't realize the truth. So when will all this return to like it was before the pandemic? So as your name suggest. It's Allover. This is the end of days and I can hear the clock. Tik Tok Tik Tok. Monkeypaw thinks there is probably a better chance of an alien invasion than everything returning to days past.
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Wear a Mask
No doubt this will infuriate some freedom loving Trumpers who see mask wearing as some kind of Orwellian conspiracy to take away their god given right to inhale unhindered what passes as fresh air in Bangkok.
We are guests in their country, the least we can do is respect their right to protect themselves from the possibility of catching Covid by doing what they themselves mostly do, wear a mask when outside and not able to socially distance.
Is that so difficult?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2472547]1. First stop Kelaya 66. Afternoon was spent on Soi 6 and Kelaya 66 Bar. It's a karaoke bar with a bit above average girls and higher drink prices than most Soi 6 bars. But the atmosphere is more like a gentleman's club with lots of fun games.[/QUOTE]My favorite Soi 6 bar. Imo way better looking girls than other Soi 6 bars in the Good old Days of 2019 pre-COVID. Not for the faint of heart due to their non Soi 6 pricing.
BTW have pseudo gogo bar places like Tim's Bar Beer and Papagayo reopened?
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2472555]No doubt this will infuriate some freedom loving Trumpers who see mask wearing as some kind of Orwellian conspiracy to take away their god given right to inhale unhindered what passes as fresh air in Bangkok.
We are guests in their country, the least we can do is respect their right to protect themselves from the possibility of catching Covid by doing what they themselves mostly do, wear a mask when outside and not able to socially distance.
Is that so difficult?[/QUOTE]This post is probably more appropriate under the "Stupid shit in Thailand" thread, as I don't see much discussion of massage parlors.
Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff. Black Lives Matters peaceful demonstrators in the US do not wear masks, except to escape facial recognition. Many anarchists are against masks out of principle.
The "We are guests in their country" argument is correct. I wear masks only when and where I see 90% of the Thai wearing a mask. Essentially: shopping malls, taxi and BTS / MRT. It's still a bummer because I don't think that masks make any difference (except in a hospital setting), but I bow to social pressure.
I am just saying that nobody is wearing masks around the Phrom Phong oilies, and thank Buddha for that! It would be kind of a joke, given the level of physical intimacy we reach in the bedroom, no? I just find it funny that I get my temperature checked at the entrance of a supermarket but not as the entrance of a brothel.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2472773]My favorite Soi 6 bar. Imo way better looking girls than other Soi 6 bars in the Good old Days of 2019 pre-COVID. Not for the faint of heart due to their non Soi 6 pricing.
BTW have pseudo gogo bar places like Tim's Bar Beer and Papagayo reopened?[/QUOTE]I think Tim is but Papagayo is still closed?
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[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2472780]This post is probably more appropriate under the "Stupid shit in Thailand" thread, as I don't see much discussion of massage parlors.
Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff. Black Lives Matters peaceful demonstrators in the US do not wear masks, except to escape facial recognition. Many anarchists are against masks out of principle.
The "We are guests in their country" argument is correct. I wear masks only when and where I see 90% of the Thai wearing a mask. Essentially: shopping malls, taxi and BTS / MRT. It's still a bummer because I don't think that masks make any difference (except in a hospital setting), but I bow to social pressure.
I am just saying that nobody is wearing masks around the Phrom Phong oilies, and thank Buddha for that! It would be kind of a joke, given the level of physical intimacy we reach in the bedroom, no? I just find it funny that I get my temperature checked at the entrance of a supermarket but not as the entrance of a brothel.[/QUOTE]Hi Eric,
Agree, more appropriate in "Stupid shit in Thailand'.
"Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff". Don't know what exactly that means. I imagine it has something to do with what I said re "Trumpers" and mask wearing.
Don't see the connection between Black Lives Matter, anarchists and wearing masks although it sounds political.
Totally not with you and fair to say neither are most epidemiologists / healthcare professionals when it comes to whether wearing masks make a difference and in the US if I may say while again not presuming any political orientation the wearing of masks is totally politicized.
Agree P4P and mask wearing while possible and although I've done it it is admittedly somewhat incongruous if not a bummer turn off.
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[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2472780]This post is probably more appropriate under the "Stupid shit in Thailand" thread, as I don't see much discussion of massage parlors.
Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff. Black Lives Matters peaceful demonstrators in the US do not wear masks, except to escape facial recognition. Many anarchists are against masks out of principle.
The "We are guests in their country" argument is correct. I wear masks only when and where I see 90% of the Thai wearing a mask. Essentially: shopping malls, taxi and BTS / MRT. It's still a bummer because I don't think that masks make any difference (except in a hospital setting), but I bow to social pressure.
I am just saying that nobody is wearing masks around the Phrom Phong oilies, and thank Buddha for that! It would be kind of a joke, given the level of physical intimacy we reach in the bedroom, no? I just find it funny that I get my temperature checked at the entrance of a supermarket but not as the entrance of a brothel.[/QUOTE]Don't worry Eric, I know exactly what you meant and I think any reasonable reader would also have known. Nobody is wearing a mask in the oilies. Franciscass is just totally and utterly obsessed with Donald Trump and feels the need to announce that at every possible opportunity on this forum even though nobody is at all interested in his hysterical rants. I appreciated your report.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2472862]Don't worry Eric, I know exactly what you meant and I think any reasonable reader would also have known. Nobody is wearing a mask in the oilies. Franciscass is just totally and utterly obsessed with Donald Trump and feels the need to announce that at every possible opportunity on this forum even though nobody is at all interested in his hysterical rants. I appreciated your report.[/QUOTE]Hi *****man.
I'm sure Eric is more than capable explaining himself on mask wearing and with a little more restraint than your rant. Not sure which button I pushed to deserve such displeasure but I suspect it has more than a little to do with your own political sensibilities. You might try practicing a little civility when you disagree, personalizing differences of opinion only diminishes the merit of your position even when it has little merit to begin with.
Take care.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2473000]Hi *****man.
I'm sure Eric is more than capable explaining himself on mask wearing and with a little more restraint than your rant. Not sure which button I pushed to deserve such displeasure but I suspect it has more than a little to do with your own political sensibilities. You might try practicing a little civility when you disagree, personalizing differences of opinion only diminishes the merit of your position even when it has little merit to begin with.
Take care.[/QUOTE]This was an excellent response. I highly advise Admin to place this in bold block letters at the heading of each page so posters of questionable intellect can be aware. There are too many of them on this board. Very eloquently put sir!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2473395]This was an excellent response. I highly advise Admin to place this in bold block letters at the heading of each page so posters of questionable intellect can be aware. There are too many of them on this board. Very eloquently put sir![/QUOTE]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2473416]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.[/QUOTE]Dear W*man,
Worshiping at the feet of false prophets has made you dark in your understanding and brought hardness to your heart but you are forgiven for you know not what you do.
Stay well and stay safe my friend.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2473416]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.[/QUOTE]And you 821 posts without one single trip report only jumping on guys who post reports or photos saying the girls are ugly when you never posted one photo. Stop cluttering this forum with your negativity. Don't you hear your mother calling you?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2473684]And you 821 posts without one single trip report only jumping on guys who post reports or photos saying the girls are ugly when you never posted one photo. Stop cluttering this forum with your negativity. Don't you hear your mother calling you?[/QUOTE]We have a number of disciples of the dear leader on the forum. What I find interesting is the extreme visceral nature of the reaction of some of them at even the most innocuous mention of their savior. They may even feel these heretics should be burnt at the stake or have a Fatwa issued against them or worse still horror of all horrors caste out and banished from the forum for life.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2474634]A friend of mine is in BKK right now. He tells me things are pretty amazing girl wise. For example, the other night he went to Baccara and Sharks on Cowboy. He had not been there for a long time. He saw a girl he once knew who used to work pre-Corona in Nana. Back then she was one of the most popular girls in Rainbow 4 and usually enjoyed 2 barfines per night. My friend had even barfined her a couple of times but then stopped because she was kind of cold and mechanical despite her hot looks. We all know the type: minimal DFK, no DATY, covered mish sex only, and in the bathroom cleaning up the second the session is over.
So he sees her over in a popular Cowboy Go Go, but does not call her over on account of his past experience with this one. There are maybe 5 or 6 other customers in the bar and it is a Saturday night - 10 pm. Eventually she wanders over to him and says Hello,. He offers her a drink for ol' times sake and she sits down, sips her drink and begins fooling around with his crotch under the table with her free hand. Long story short, he barfines her, takes her back to his apartment, and guess what? She is a different girl than the one he knew pre Corona: DFK and a BJ in the shower and another one on the bed. Then she moves up in between his legs and begins to mount him bareback. He gives her a surprised look and she responds, this OK, with a smile. Get the picture? And when it is all over she lays next to him on her side and caresses him. Later she asks if he wants to do it again. He says no not now and she says OK, but I can stay the night and we can boom boom in the morning, no extra charge if you want.[/QUOTE]You got it, it's a pure heaven on earth, total solar eclipse, blue moon once in a lifetime experience. To walk into a go go and have pretty much every chic there want to spend time with you is the stuff of dreams. I'm still expecting to wake up.
Too bad Natty you're sadly missing it. Knowing you're a go go habitue you of all people would appreciate the lack of competition for the top talent girls.
Whoops ink disappearing again.
You got it, it's a pure heaven on earth, total solar eclipse, blue moon once in a lifetime experience. To walk into a go go and have pretty much every chic there want to spend time with you is the stuff of dreams. I'm still expecting to wake up.
Too bad Natty you're sadly missing it. Knowing you're a go go habitue you of all people would appreciate the lack of competition for the top talent girls and how appreciative they are back in the room when you pick them.
Whoops got to go post becoming invisible again.
Bye Natty, stay safe.
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Repeat Girls Yes, New Girls No
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2474634]A friend of mine is in BKK right now. He tells me things are pretty amazing girl wise. For example, the other night he went to Baccara and Sharks on Cowboy. He had not been there for a long time. He saw a girl he once knew who used to work pre-Corona in Nana. Back then she was one of the most popular girls in Rainbow 4 and usually enjoyed 2 barfines per night. My friend had even barfined her a couple of times but then stopped because she was kind of cold and mechanical despite her hot looks. We all know the type: minimal DFK, no DATY, covered mish sex only, and in the bathroom cleaning up the second the session is over.
So he sees her over in a popular Cowboy Go Go, but does not call her over on account of his past experience with this one. There are maybe 5 or 6 other customers in the bar and it is a Saturday night - 10 pm. Eventually she wanders over to him and says Hello,. He offers her a drink for ol' times sake and she sits down, sips her drink and begins fooling around with his crotch under the table with her free hand. Long story short, he barfines her, takes her back to his apartment, and guess what? She is a different girl than the one he knew pre Corona: DFK and a BJ in the shower and another one on the bed. Then she moves up in between his legs and begins to mount him bareback. He gives her a surprised look and she responds, this OK, with a smile. Get the picture? And when it is all over she lays next to him on her side and caresses him. Later she asks if he wants to do it again. He says no not now and she says OK, but I can stay the night and we can boom boom in the morning, no extra charge if you want.
This is the kind of attitude change I keep hearing more and more about from friends and fellow punters who are in BKK at the moment during the pandemic. It is like a golden era that happens once every 50 years or so. I wish I was in BKK right now! [/QUOTE]That is similar to my experiences now as well, but only with girls I have been with before. Same situation as what your friend told you. The girls I have been with before are contacting me, flagging me over in the bars and, when I session with them again, are treating me better than ever and asking for less.
But new girls are a completely different matter now. Finding one worth even considering to repeat is as elusive if not more elusive than ever. For me.
Monday night I made the rounds in 4 Nana Plaza go-go bars, a Soi 7 beer bar and passed by 1 attractive FL sitting alone outside Thermae. As desolate as the streets and nearly empty of customers as the bars are most times these days, Monday night would probably be the worst night. But the bars were packed with girls.
I bought drinks and experienced terrific in-bar chemistry with 5 better than average but not stunner girls in the bars and the good looking Thermae girl practically tackled me as I walked by.
Yet I still got six "NO" replies to BBFS in a row even though I offered 2,500 - 3,000 baht to the girl if she agreed to it (plus barfine in the venues that applied). I had gotten so many BBBJ+CIMs lately, that night I did not include it as an option. And I was actually curious to see what the state of the Bangkok scene was without my favorite mamasans bringing a suitable girl to me so I did not interact with them.
I went back to my apartment alone about 11:30pm that night with the designated 2,500 - 3,000 baht still in my pocket.
And, yep, I had to say "NO" to offers to come over from a half dozen fine regulars and repeats willing to walk through fire for me that night just to have a free night to get said "NO" to by six new girls instead. Lol
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Originally Posted by Franciscass (View Original Post).
A) The point I was making was <snip girls who refused (BB) I believe felt there were associated health / pregnancy risks.
B) Girls say no but you say later most do bare body. If true why when they say no initially? You explanation which if true is sad reflection on our fellow mongers.
1)"Most punters who get bareback here get it after tying up her time, plying her with many drinks, leading up to crunch time in the room where if she doesn't watch her step she has every reason to believe she might be put out with little or no money for her whole night. That is, if she is sober enough to think much about it at all".
2)"manipulation techniques we read about on these threads from guys who apply them".
Invisible Man.
Still Invisible, but it's not important.
A) Sometimes the girls are risk averse and sometimes they have other reasons I have yet to fathom. Ha Ha. On several occasions in different countries I have started out in bareback, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inuires, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload big in her vagina. Now if you ask me why these particular girls and I had to start off with a condom, couldn't tell you except to say maybe they were shy or suffering from peer pressure. Who knows? I am just here to report I can recall every one of those trysts. They were all memorable although they most certainly did not start out that way. Girls change their minds all the time.
B) Why do girls say no and later say yes. Who the hell knows. They are girls that's why. But when they say no you have to respect it. But later if they change there minds, great, you can respect that too.
1) Women and liquor (an other aphrodisiacs) go back in time to when the first farmers figured out fermented grape juice made you silly. Booze loosens things up for girls and boys. There is nothing wrong with partying and getting loose with a girl or girls as long as she / they are over 18 (the legal age of consent) and she consents. The red line is reached when something, anything is against her will or she as soon as she is not happy with it. Always be a gentleman, never be a sucker, a fool, or a rapist. Some assholes think slipping a girl a ruffie is a good idea. But without consent it is rape.
2) Other than that, what manipulation techniques are you talking about? I must have missed those posts. I mean most of us try to put our best foot forward and impress the girl in one way or another. I find genuinely liking the girls and treating them like girls and not working girls creates a good vibe that goes along way towards my goal of GFE and having a good time. It is all part of my approach or technique. So is flitting while buying them drinks and getting acquainted. My prospective bar girls always have their choice of drinks; tequila or sugar water. I am never in a rush to barfine. That is of my technique as well. And then back in my hotel room I usually have a bottle of quality Anejo Tequila waiting. I offer the girls a drink, but it is always up to them. I never drink alone.
And then when it starts getting sexual, once again the girl has free choice always. 1% to 2% of the time I get a bad one: No kissing, no fun in the shower, or only covered BJ. When this happens I just show her the door with taxi fare and a little more to make her go quietly and then I head out again. Roughly 25% to 30% of the time the girl and I bareback. I gather this stat is significantly lower than EihTooms, but that is ok with me. Tequila does improve my percentages. 555. Repeats have a much higher positive effect on my percentages. Roughly 75% of my Thai girls will bareback me on the 2nd or 3rd get together. National origin has a larger positive effect as well. My initial first time bareback percentages are higher in the PI, Phnom Penh, Yangon, and Jakarta an lower in Macau all else being equal.
I just thought I would throw in my personal stats for a comparison basis. I have no idea what the mean is on barebacking Thai hookers. The main point of this post was to ask and clarify what manipulation techniques you are referring to and to say that not all manipulation techniques designed to get a girl in bed passionately doing what you want are bad. I think girls want guys to want them and I think they also prefer guys that know how to do them and in a reasonable and satisfying way. If a girl likes you, yes even as a pro, she will do a lot more to make you happy.
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Correction of my last post
On several occasions in different countries I have started out covered, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inquire, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload in her vagina.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2475388]On several occasions in different countries I have started out covered, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inquire, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload in her vagina.[/QUOTE]Well me each time I'm in Pattaya or in PP, I never ask about condoms! Usually I always lick their pussy first, they love that and then I directly fuck them and they never ask me to put a condom! Even when there are condoms on the bed! Only few girls ask me TIP when I fuck them without! And of course I give them money!
And I always come inside their pussy! I'm an addict of creampies. I think I barebacked about a hundred girls in Pattaya, and I think I fucked the most beautiful girls of Pattaya! I spend a lot of time in Pattaya or on facebook or Tinder to find sexy working girls! I always fuck girls 18/25.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2475875]Well me each time I'm in Pattaya or in PP, I never ask about condoms! Usually I always lick their pussy first, they love that and then I directly fuck them and they never ask me to put a condom! Even when there are condoms on the bed! [/QUOTE]Yeah, good one. I sometimes think DATY works better than Tequila, but it depends on the girl. I enjoy going down on girls too.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2475875]Well me each time I'm in Pattaya or in PP, I never ask about condoms! Usually I always lick their pussy first, they love that and then I directly fuck them and they never ask me to put a condom! Even when there are condoms on the bed! Only few girls ask me TIP when I fuck them without! And of course I give them money!
And I always come inside their pussy! I'm an addict of creampies. I think I barebacked about a hundred girls in Pattaya, and I think I fucked the most beautiful girls of Pattaya! I spend a lot of time in Pattaya or on facebook or Tinder to find sexy working girls! I always fuck girls 18/25.[/QUOTE]Do you have one single post that doesn't say something to the effect that you have fucked 90% of the girls in Thailand BBFS?
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LOL. He's quite a. Character. It's kind of like monkey paw changed nationality to western European and learned to overuse exclamation marks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2475974]Do you have one single post that doesn't say something to the effect that you have fucked 90% of the girls in Thailand BBFS?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2475974]Do you have one single post that doesn't say something to the effect that you have fucked 90% of the girls in Thailand BBFS?[/QUOTE]That would be the post where he bragged about "stealthing" the other 10%.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2463786]
And if really you want fuck her without, just take off the condom in doggy and fuck her again![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2475974]Do you have one single post that doesn't say something to the effect that you have fucked 90% of the girls in Thailand BBFS?[/QUOTE]I think he fucked all the 100% of the Thailand girls.
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AI calls on Thai authorities to drop charges against eight arrested Thai activists
[URL]https://prachatai.com/english/node/8738[/URL]
Perhaps the US should grant these young activists asylum until their safety and constitutional rights can be assured.
Our society can always benefit from smart, strong, courageous people with forward vision. We are all neighbors in this small world, and we want to give young people proper protection for their rights and their safety, even if they are precocious.
Perhaps their families and associates should contact the embassies of US, UK, France, Australia, Singapore ect for possible assistance.
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I read this recently: "Up to 650,000 deaths annually are associated with respiratory diseases from seasonal influenza, according to new estimates by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (US-CDC), the World Health Organization and global health partners". For the past 9 months covid 19 has caused the deaths of 989,055.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491810]It seems most have decided to cash in on that insurance at middle age these days. Chick has a mom that is 40 talking about how guilty she feels because she has to help such and such. They don't get a chance to grow and develop because they are saddled with so much responsibility at a young age.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EihTooms;2491821]With the birth rate declining as much as it has for the past couple of decades, now there are only 1 or 2 adult kids to take care of the same number of parents, grandparents, drunk uncles, old maid aunts and so on as before, no longer 5-6 adult kids to do it.
That charismatic doctor who pushed for more widespread condom use supposedly in order to reduce poverty brought on by Thai families having so many kids should have used his charisma to push for a universal Social Security type retirement program for Thailand instead.[/QUOTE]I moved this to another topic as I thought it more appropriate.
Like so many countries Thailand has families that move to the Western model while many families still adhere to the old model. That will give friction. The answers are difficult and a clear cut answer is not available. To make things clearer on the medic part, I will give the rationale for many children. Not just a workforce on the farm but also necessary for your pension. So you need at least two children because half of the children die. You need double that amount because half will be women and move to the other family (or vice versa). You need double that amount because only half of them will manage to get a job. So to have one child paying for your pension you need 8 children. Or better you needed 8 children. Because not half of the children dies any longer anymore. You don't need to double if the country is not grappling with subsistence. You don't need to double if the wife can work and doesn't need to raise so many children. So, of course a doctor will advise condoms and try to bring the number of children down. And he is right about that. The problem however is the transition to another culture in two ways. First within the families: the daughter is not going to help her family anymore in such a demanding way. For example Romanian and Bulgarian girls turn back to their countries way before they reach the age of 30. Polish and Hungarians already are hard to find. The second is within the country or even county. One family still follows the old model. Another follows the more individual model. In Europe for example this is true for immigrants especially from Morocco. That gives tensions and one result is that the Moroccan community in the Netherlands now is an endless source for criminal talent, because they have problems to fit in our dominant culture. I can elaborate on that but won't. If interested try to find Constructivism on the net. I think that with the advance of medicines that there is no way back to the old model. Nobody will withhold medicine from their children of just accept that there is no job for them if not necessary. So there's too many children in this situation and that will create poverty. Well, the picture is more complicated than this (for example education and development of the economy play a role) but in this topic I won't elaborate on that too much. The bottomline is that Thailand is a part of the world economy and cannot isolate itself. So they have to go along with the developments in the world. Somehow the government of Thailand will have to step in with care for the old aged etcetera and move to a more individual model with a strong state. That will diminish the possibilities for mongering. But that is still a long way to go. Cheap mongering is already from the menu.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2474672]You got it, it's a pure heaven on earth, total solar eclipse, blue moon once in a lifetime experience. To walk into a go go and have pretty much every chic there want to spend time with you is the stuff of dreams. I'm still expecting to wake up.[/QUOTE]10-15 years ago I would have called that exact experience a Tuesday.
Girls are eager, for obvious reason, but the selection is meh. It was dire before Covid, and now it's roughly 1/3 of that.
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Throw Away the Key
Thanks for the link. I hope the Thai authorities give them long sentences and they let Amnesty International suck on that. This site does not need anti Thai propaganda from such frauds.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2477200][URL]https://prachatai.com/english/node/8738[/URL]
Perhaps the US should grant these young activists asylum until their safety and constitutional rights can be assured.
Our society can always benefit from smart, strong, courageous people with forward vision. We are all neighbors in this small world, and we want to give young people proper protection for their rights and their safety, even if they are precocious.
Perhaps their families and associates should contact the embassies of US, UK, France, Australia, Singapore ect for possible assistance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2498173]Well the OP can play it anyway he wants. If he wants to play the part of the conned, taken for a ride boyfriend that is fine with me. What I objected to and found distasteful in his storytelling was the way he continually assumed the readers were as nave as he was. That we did not see the end coming from the very beginning. That is why I only lightly skimmed his subsequent chapters.
This tale should stand as another example in a long list of examples of how not to act with P4P girls and what not to put up with. Again, a punter can do what he wants, but when he starts believing the GFE fantasy is real and allows himself to fall for the con, whatever form the con takes, he inadvertently sets into motion the end of that very relationship that he sought to hold onto.
I have a very simple rule: If a favorite, repeat girl asks me to send money for whatever reason, I simply tell her I cannot and that is that. Then I deduct a point from her scorecard. If I were ever have to deduct 3 points in total, the liaison is over. That said, most of my favorite girls never ask for Western Union. But a few do. Then Corona changed everything, and most, but not all of my repeat favorites asked for money. I sent each girl who asked a little bit ($150) with no points deducted, ha ha, and told them it was a one-time thing. They all accepted the gift gratefully and never asked for more money. I am still in touch with them all and I hope to see them again as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]I recall Hawk being over 70. Makes the the thing utterly Goofy-estorious. Age matters in these things.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2498217]I recall Hawk being over 70. Makes the the thing utterly Goofy-estorious. Age matters in these things.
[/QUOTE]Your recollection is incorrect. But I ask, why do you continue to make age an issue when it is no one's concern but Secret's and my own? Feel free to point out the risk factors, of course, as that is part of the story. But snarky comments based on conjecture and preconceived images would not seem helpful.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2499777]How are you allowed to go to Thailand?[/QUOTE]Latest is they allow you to enter if you come on a Private Yacht.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2498837]I know he did. If I remember correctly he is way past minimum qualification for social security.
It matters.
If he is middle age it's even more cringe. A Thai barmaid with a kid and old mother to support? Come on man.
At least with the Real Elders one can give them a pass. They are just old and Playing.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FLHawk;1939286]Sure would be nice to see this in action though. It is so against anything I, as a gentleman, am accustomed to even considering, but the more I express the difficulty of doing that here the more pathetic I sound. So I, an octogenarian, just walk up to a table of lovelies, take the hard of one I like, and say "come with me"? I remember Haven, I think, describing you doing this, but it just sounds so unbelievable, though I know it is true. Maybe in November I will have to lay back a drink or two to be able to give that a try, haha.[/QUOTE]What do they say about old dogs new tricks.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2499921]I love to look movies with your JAV Star Emi Fukada! But my 2 favorites JAV Stars from Japan are Ayaka Tomoda and Yua Mikami. I met them both during a convention in Taipei and Tokyo.
It's just a pity these JAV Stars don't do escort![/QUOTE]My favorite Ayu Sakurai has come out with some 2020 released videos. So sad she doesn't have it anymore. Like a sports star past his Prime kind of thing.
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So Hawk is an Octogenarian. Technically he could be 89 but not less than 80.
See what I mean by age matters. LOL.
Any comments by those who took him seriously are very welcomed.
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[QUOTE=FLHawk;2500382]
I think it would be more productive for this forum if, rather than saying "It matters" followed by snarky comments of disdain and disgust, to finally tell us WHY it matters and WHY it makes you cringe and WHY you feel it is any business of yours.
I have said a number of times that there are three big unalterable things than can ruin this relationship I have / had; those being cultural differences, language problems and age. But you do not know Secret or her reasons for carrying on with me. You may [I]think[/I] you know, but you barely have a clue. All you know is what I have written here, colored by your own obvious prejudices and biases, yet you dare to tell me that our relationship has caused you to cringe and compel you to resort to personal attacks and insults.[/QUOTE]So you're happy for people to tell you how wonderful your "relationship" is but you throw a little hissy fit when they tell you something you don't want to hear?
If you think it's nobody else's business why on earth are you spending weeks (months?) relaying this long, tedious tale of yours on a public forum?
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Finally
[QUOTE=*****man;2500384]So you're happy for people to tell you how wonderful your "relationship" is but you throw a little hissy fit when they tell you something you don't want to hear?
If you think it's nobody else's business why on earth are you spending weeks (months?) relaying this long, tedious tale of yours on a public forum?[/QUOTE]I gave my opinion similar to yours (a bit harsh) but so be it, I spoke my mind and they did not want to here it so I got a infraction of some sort! Enough is enough, I also said if a certain well known member actually did not back him up, at this point in time I would not believe the whole story similar to a wind up! Am I entitled to my opinion.
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[QUOTE==*****man;2500384]So you're happy for people to tell you how wonderful your "relationship" is but you throw a little hissy fit when they tell you something you don't want to hear?
If you think it's nobody else's business why on earth are you spending weeks (months?) relaying this long, tedious tale of yours on a public forum?[/QUOTE]Awhile back there was a discussion about "narcism" amongst the bar girls and how they live their lives. I think another member mentioned it was more like "borderline personality disorder. " I Googled it. And it seems to me, that BPD is probably more related to some the John's.
"Symptoms include emotional instability, feelings of worthlessness, insecurity, impulsivity, and impaired social relationships."
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2501065]Transferwise didn't work for her getting money out of Thailand. She used Western Union. Lost about 0.5% on exchange rates but if Danny is truly concerned about losing his 800k baht that's a VERY small price to pay. Doesn't this invalidate his OA Retirement Visa though?[/QUOTE]I think DannyDuck like always is just fuckin with us, but all he has to do is make a single transaction (small deposit or transfer a small amount to a friend) once a year to keep the account active. If he wants to transfer the money out of Thailand that is no problem but like you suggest depending on which visa he has it could become an issue to renew.
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Sorry you had to deal with that
[QUOTE=Turgid;2505015]I had not been doing the dating non-pros in the US thing for many many years. However, when I got home from my shortened (from 3 months to 2 months) Germany trip in March and with no future travel in sight I decided to give the non-pro scene a go. I got in touch with this 30 something good looking babe who I had not completely lost contact with. She had been showing me interest for years but I made no move not wanting to interfere with my mongering trips. We went out for lunch a couple times. Then she came over to my place, we watched a movie but she brushed off my advances. A second visit ended with the same result, no action for rufus. I then said fuck that, I'm too old for that shit. I blocked her from whatsapp and went back to my hookers.[/QUOTE]I really like the intimate connection and GFE of regular girls. But got really tired of dealing with their dumb shit too. So over the decades I have established an extremely high chance of sex with them within 1st hour of the 1st meet up thru great study of past successful and less successful encounters.
My Findings:
If she comes over to my place at NIGHT AS our 1st meet after exchanging numbers, 98% chance of sex within the hour of her arrival. *Out of that remaining 2% some may be on their period and or may be heavy bleeders and won't go all the way (but may give bbj) and the remainder are playing games. *.
If she requires drinks, a meal, or a quick public meetup and then possibly over to your place at a LATER DATE BEFORE SEX, she is wasting your time. Their may be sex with up to 40% of the chicks you treat out within 5 dates. *Hence I' ve learned to avoid girls who require wining and dining before sex.
And I swear by these KEY must do's that ensure a very high chance of sex quick at your place:
After getting her digits. TEXT her within the 1st day and no later than the 2nd day and let her know you work crazy hours (whatever excuse), but you want to see her and set the invitation for her to come to your spot. *(Do not call and have a conversation. Nor text back and forth all day. That shit lowers your chances of immediate sex.).
When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ASS literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. * It sets the tone for the evening and will also let you know if she falls into that 2% if she makes it slightly awkward.
(** Girls who are fine with your brand of Hello, at the door are fucking within the hour. The 2% ugghhh get two trys of attempting sex with her within 45 minutes 1st night. If no go withdraw coolly and within 20 minutes tell them you are tired and have a long day the next day. Tell them goodnight as you send them home and call your backup chick or pro.
I surmised they want the same thing we do but get in their own way, so our job is to lower the amount of time they think before acting. And trust if she is going home alone after you feed her she is calling Tyrone or Chad or Sawassdee LOLOLOL to come over and finish the job or at worst rubbing one out by herself.
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Paging Mr. Weinstein, Mr. Harvey Weinstein. Please pick up a courtesy phone.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2505054]When she arrives, open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately grab her ASS literally, pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. This sets the tone for the evening.[/QUOTE]What is your advice regarding the best method to wash the pepper spray from your eyes?
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[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2505054]When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ASS literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue
(** Girls who are fine with your brand of Hello, at the door are fucking within the hour..[/QUOTE]One of my Navy buddies taught me something like that our freshman year in college. We were in the parking lot at a club talking to these chicks. We exchanged numbers. When we were about to leave he kissed his girl in the mouth. He said women know from the minute they meet you if they are going to fuck you or not. Since then when a new chick comes over or I meet up with a chick, the first thing I do is try to kiss her in the mouth. Not with tongue, just closed mouth. He was pretty spot on.
*Something that I learned from another Navy buddy was that all chicks that smoke suck dick...
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LOL. Don't know bro.
[QUOTE=Bunky;2505067]What is your advice regarding the best method to wash the pepper spray from your eyes?[/QUOTE]Never had to. But I can tell you this shit works like gangbusters. Used for decades. Nothing immoral or distasteful in it. Just fast tracking both parties desires. Try it. Mongering does include sex with many regular girls too.
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That smoking shit. Funny AF but true!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2505079]One of my Navy buddies taught me something like that our freshman year in college. We were in the parking lot at a club talking to these chicks. We exchanged numbers. When we were about to leave he kissed his girl in the mouth. He said women know from the minute they meet you if they are going to fuck you or not. Since then when a new chick comes over or I meet up with a chick, the first thing I do is try to kiss her in the mouth. Not with tongue, just closed mouth. He was pretty spot on.
*Something that I learned from another Navy buddy was that all chicks that smoke suck dick...[/QUOTE] All the above is true. I learned it in The Military myself. I like to kiss that shit made me quit fucking with chicks that smoke. LOLOL.
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Changing your technique
[QUOTE=Turgid;2505015] ...We went out for lunch a couple times. Then she came over to my place, we watched a movie but she brushed off my advances. A second visit ended with the same result, no action for rufus. I then said fuck that, I'm too old for that shit. I blocked her from whatsapp and went back to my hookers.[/QUOTE]For fun, you should give it another try, but do the complete opposite, and follow step by step Sawassdee technique:
"When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ass literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. It sets the tone for the evening and will also let you know if she falls into that 2% if she makes it slightly awkward."
And report your new success rate Sawassdee is at 98%.
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[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2506363]For fun, you should give it another try, but do the complete opposite, and follow step by step Sawassdee technique:
"When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ass literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. It sets the tone for the evening and will also let you know if she falls into that 2% if she makes it slightly awkward."
And report your new success rate Sawassdee is at 98%.[/QUOTE]I don't think I can do that. Its just not me. I don't even do it to hookers who come to my place.
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[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2506363]For fun, you should give it another try, but do the complete opposite, and follow step by step Sawassdee technique:
"When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ass literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. It sets the tone for the evening and will also let you know if she falls into that 2% if she makes it slightly awkward."
And report your new success rate Sawassdee is at 98%.[/QUOTE]Many women would interpret this kind of behavior as sexual assault, especially in USA and other western countries. This kind of thing can get you into a lot of trouble, especially if you do this to several women, and they all complain about it on social media or something like that. Because when one woman says it, then it's her word against yours. But when several unrelated women, who don't know each other, say it, then your word against theirs is almost worthless. Everyone will believe the women and not you.
Consent is very important in sexual matters. And that's why women who do it for money are such an attraction for sexual action. They make consent easy and sure. When you pay the lady what she asks for with a mutual understanding that this is for some hanky-panky between you and her, then touching her is a part of foreplay, and the lady probably won't slap your hand away. But kissing she might refuse anyway. You still need to agree with her what exactly she will do and won't do with you.
When you do it for money with the lady, then even if there is some misunderstanding between you and her about what you can or can't do with her, then her response will probably be proportional. She'll just push you away and tell you to stop, if you do something she doesn't want. But she probably won't report you to the police for sexual assault, the way an ordinary woman might do.
Communication, negotiation, and money is what makes consent so easy and sure between adults. It's a way to avoid trouble and make it fair and square for both. But of course, you also need to worry about the government and busybodies who want to control everybody's behavior according to their own beliefs and values. So, in USA paying money to generate consent between adults is illegal in most jurisdictions, and you can get into trouble just for doing that.
And because it's a political kind of thing, they usually accuse you of exploiting children to make you look bad, even though the lady you've dealt with is an adult, and it has nothing to do with children. Politics is always some kind of lying either direct or indirect by exaggeration or selective interpretation. Because the purpose of politics is to make your opponents look bad and yourself look good at the expense of your opponents. It's a kind of verbal fight, when it's between equal opponents. Or it's a kind of bullying and beating up, when the attacker is the government and the victim is an ordinary person.
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Four bad Bargirls will ruin it for everyone for awhile.
The Chiang Mai incident. Hahahaha.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;2507220]Many women would interpret this kind of behavior as sexual assault, especially in USA and other western countries.[/QUOTE]Thank you Dan for the social analysis, but I think that you totally missed the fact that I was sarcastically quoting the post below from mister Sawassdee, who boldly claim to have a 98% success rate with such. Hummm technique.
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[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2507367]Thank you Dan for the social analysis, but I think that you totally missed the fact that I was sarcastically quoting the post below from mister Sawassdee, who boldly claim to have a 98% success rate with such. Hummm technique.[/QUOTE]Lots of people in USA have recently got into a lot of trouble for this kind of behavior. And this has been in the media a lot. You can check it out at the link below:
[URL]https://time.com/5015204/harvey-weinstein-scandal/[/URL]
Sarcasm doesn't work, when it describes something that people actually do in real life and get into a lot of trouble for it.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;2507528]Sarcasm doesn't work, when it describes something that people actually do in real life and get into a lot of trouble for it.[/QUOTE]You really don't get it.
I was quoting word for word and mocking the post and of Board Member named Sawassdee below.
You should read it, and continue your social and legal discussion with him.
You are made for each other.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;2507528]Lots of people in USA have recently got into a lot of trouble for this kind of behavior. And this has been in the media a lot.[/QUOTE]LOL. Seriously dude. The USA? Funny you only hear about this stuff in the media when the man is famous and has something to lose. Or I should have said when the woman thinks she has something to gain.
The ability to win huge lawsuits is what separates the USA from the rest of the world. Anywhere else it is seen as a man being a man amd brushed off. I am not saying you should go around r-ping women, but even flirting and hitting on them is now shunned. Most people would never have been born if it was not for these kind of mating rituals.
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[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2507538]You really don't get it.
I was quoting word for word and mocking the post and of Board Member named Sawassdee below.
You should read it, and continue your social and legal discussion with him.
You are made for each other.[/QUOTE]I found Sawassdee's original post, and it appears that you've quoted it out of context so much, that you've changed its meaning to something different from what Sawassdee originally meant. Here is Sawassdee's original post:
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2505054]I really like the intimate connection and GFE of regular girls. But got really tired of dealing with their dumb shit too. So over the decades I have established an extremely high chance of sex with them within 1st hour of the 1st meet up thru great study of past successful and less successful encounters.
My Findings:
If she comes over to my place at NIGHT AS our 1st meet after exchanging numbers, 98% chance of sex within the hour of her arrival. *Out of that remaining 2% some may be on their period and or may be heavy bleeders and won't go all the way (but may give bbj) and the remainder are playing games. *.
If she requires drinks, a meal, or a quick public meetup and then possibly over to your place at a LATER DATE BEFORE SEX, she is wasting your time. Their may be sex with up to 40% of the chicks you treat out within 5 dates. *Hence I' ve learned to avoid girls who require wining and dining before sex.
And I swear by these KEY must do's that ensure a very high chance of sex quick at your place:
After getting her digits. TEXT her within the 1st day and no later than the 2nd day and let her know you work crazy hours (whatever excuse), but you want to see her and set the invitation for her to come to your spot. *(Do not call and have a conversation. Nor text back and forth all day. That shit lowers your chances of immediate sex.).
When she arrives open the door and welcome her in and close the door. Immediately (grab her ASS literally) pull her in close and give her a deep kiss with tongue before ushering her over to the couch. * It sets the tone for the evening and will also let you know if she falls into that 2% if she makes it slightly awkward.
(** Girls who are fine with your brand of Hello, at the door are fucking within the hour. The 2% ugghhh get two trys of attempting sex with her within 45 minutes 1st night. If no go withdraw coolly and within 20 minutes tell them you are tired and have a long day the next day. Tell them goodnight as you send them home and call your backup chick or pro.
I surmised they want the same thing we do but get in their own way, so our job is to lower the amount of time they think before acting. And trust if she is going home alone after you feed her she is calling Tyrone or Chad or Sawassdee LOLOLOL to come over and finish the job or at worst rubbing one out by herself.[/QUOTE]Sawassdee is talking about a lady who gave him his phone number, and he invites her to come to his place in the evening for some socializing. When a guy invites a woman to his place like that, and it's only him and her alone there, then it's commonly understood that he wants to have sex with her. And when a woman chooses to come to a guy's place like this, then she probably expects to have sex with him too.
So, there is some common understanding here between the lady and the guy. That's why Sawassdee has such a high success rate. He doesn't just grab any lady he likes. He grabs a lady who probably knows and expects to have sex with him.
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Thai "Cleaner" Bags His House after Breaking His Heart
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9038661/Jealous-ambulance-service-chief-55-faces-jail-grappling-naked-love-rival.html[/URL]
If you marry a "cleaner", this is your lot. Note her before and after pics.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2510499][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9038661/Jealous-ambulance-service-chief-55-faces-jail-grappling-naked-love-rival.html[/URL]
If you marry a "cleaner", this is your lot. Note her before and after pics.[/QUOTE]It amazes me what kind of girls some guys will fuck.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2510547]It amazes me what kind of girls some guys will fuck.[/QUOTE]Why would it when some guys will fuck girls that are guys.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2516968]I will take my chances by eating 5+ a day, keeping my immune system strong, helping old ladies and avoiding like the plague they are ignorant scare mongers.[/QUOTE]Thank you for clearly identifying one ignorant person.
The scariest part of your post is saying you will allow yourself to be exposed to the virus and then help old ladies. How will those old ladies survive the virus? Who else will you expose?
Thailand has done well so far because they keep people like you under control. USA is out of control because there are too many people like you who exercise their rights and claim they have no responsibilities.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2517032]The scariest part of your post is saying you will allow yourself to be exposed to the virus and then help old ladies. How will those old ladies survive the virus? Who else will you expose?.[/QUOTE]555.
Still remember one of the first Americans who led a group of non mask wearers. A month later he was in the news again saying he had made a terrible mistake. A few days after that he died of COVID. Guess it was worth dying for his Freedom of Rights! Karma is a b1tch.
Bet the 41 year old newly elected Louisiana governor didn't expect to die of COVID this week. He looked like he was in decent shape to me and possibly ate 5+ meals per day.
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Ethnocentric A-hole Opinions
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2517032]Thank you for clearly identifying one ignorant person.
The scariest part of your post is saying you will allow yourself to be exposed to the virus and then help old ladies. How will those old ladies survive the virus? Who else will you expose?
Thailand has done well so far because they keep people like you under control. USA is out of control because there are too many people like you who exercise their rights and claim they have no responsibilities.[/QUOTE]Your opinion and those of many others here is worthless. I am not in the USA and have no intention of ever visiting it again as there are so many things about America and Americans I detest. This site is about having sex with women and the issues that pursuit gives rise to. One of those current issues is Covid. You are one of a number of people spamming this site with your uninformed US centric opinions. The USA not only has an unenviable position with respect to Covid but with HIV and other STIs as well. That being so, the opinion of Americans has to be taken as being a priori worth less than that of others.
Being an expat in Pattaya may qualify you for opining on the the state of street walkers there. It does not make you a risk avoider.
Being an American, you have obvious problems comprehending English (or any other language). We get that. I did not say I am exposing myself to Covid. I have not been in a large supermarket or mall since March. I have not been in a big crowd since then either. I get most groceries and sundries delivered. I have been in a bank less than three times. I have had my hair cut about the same number of times. I have read up on masks and "cheat" when wearing them so I can breathe. I could probably get an exemption if I was bothered going through the hoops to get one. So, how am I exposing myself? How am I Typhoid Mary?
There are very many elderly folk here living alone, terrorised out of their wits by folk like you. There is a government and police -sanctioned system to help them through local voluntary groups. We help deliver groceries, medicines etc, all with the official ok of the authorities and the old folk. My role is very modest in that. We look out for each other, ready to neutralize unwanted intruders if the need arises.
Are you a member of any such group or do your police records bar you?
Do me a favour (not favor). Stop spreading fake news here. Stop spamming the site, along with a few others. If you have something worthwhile to say, say it. Otherwise, go take a crap. And wash your hands afterwards.
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Penis Jab
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2517032]Thank you for clearly identifying one ignorant person.
The scariest part of your post is saying you will allow yourself to be exposed to the virus and then help old ladies. How will those old ladies survive the virus? Who else will you expose?
Thailand has done well so far because they keep people like you under control. USA is out of control because there are too many people like you who exercise their rights and claim they have no responsibilities.[/QUOTE]I said no such thing. You are implying anyone who doesn't listen to clowns wants to be infected. Helping old ladies here is government approved and vetted by the cops. People like you have those women terrified. Besides taking Thailand's figures with a grain of salt (from past experience), I won't rely on a guy who lives with uneducated hookers in making my opinion. Why do you drag the USA into it?
Am not there and have no intention of ever going there again.
I attaching two pics, one of the new penis injection and the other of NYE in Wuhan and NYNY.
There is another picture doing the rounds of three semi naked African bambinos wearing leaves as mask coverings. They remind me of you.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2517255]Being an American, you have obvious problems comprehending English (or any other language). We get that. I did not say I am exposing myself to Covid. I have not been in a large supermarket or mall since March. I have not been in a big crowd since then either. I get most groceries and sundries delivered. I have been in a bank less than three times. I have had my hair cut about the same number of times. I have read up on masks and "cheat" when wearing them so I can breathe. I could probably get an exemption if I was bothered going through the hoops to get one. So, how am I exposing myself? How am I Typhoid Mary?.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your clarification. Your prior post, which I quoted, made you appear very different. I do wonder exactly what you mean by cheating with the mask.
As for me, I take extreme safety precautions with COVID. I do not volunteer my time but I frequently donate money to COVID relief causes such as food banks.
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Just getting back to ISG
[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2507538]You really don't get it.
I was quoting word for word and mocking the post and of Board Member named Sawassdee below.
You should read it, and continue your social and legal discussion with him.
You are made for each other.[/QUOTE] Yes mocking only, you added nothing else of value here. For clarity, no one was discussing taking sexual advantage of an Potential W2 or 1099 employee, drugging girls, or getting together at your abode with girls who believe they are meeting you outside of setting up a potential more intimate relationship. We are on a website in a section that discusses HAVING SEX WITH WOMEN either P4P or potential relationship (casual or otherwise).
Please do not confuse other members by mixing in Business news with horrible practices or ignorance of the problem previously presented and possible solution already shared in the Forum. The information I SHARED is highly productive in OUR arena.
I have just returned from a 4 week business trip to Cali Colombia working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. In that time frame using that very same technique I quickly built a 5 chica rotation thru first night meetups and sex at my apartment (one I initially met at the mall for lunch who returned to my apartment same night) all from Tinder, Colombian Cupid and Caribbean Cupid connects.
Before your cynicism kicks in, all regular girls, no p4p. And only 5 due to I purposely stopped connecting with new chicks because of a consuming work schedule and now very happy every night sex rotation.
As far as the success rate there, i invited 6 girls over. The one i did not sleep with stood me up 2 times but pushed communication hard until she realized i wasn't taking her out for a first meet and asked to come over. Everything went well all the way up to sliding her panties to the side and rubbing her kitty while sucking her breast while she rubbed my dick until close to curfew (she would not go any further and she had to get home to her daughter). I put her in the Uber and she asked for money and promised to come back on Sunday (Sunday would have been 2 days later). I gave her no money and i blocked her on Whatsapp because the truth came out she wanted to fuck for money. I like regular girls who get there own.
So my success rate is still intact. And I have had the pleasure of mongering with a small few from this site. I am Happy to disappoint you. By the way while you are shooting down a successful technique, how is your success rate? Please feel free to share your successful techniques. I guarantee i will read them and may even try it if i am weak in that certain area.
Whether you value add or continue to MOCK, You can choose to try it out or not. But do not impede other men from achieving higher success with sex. We are on ISG assisting one another with our hobby/need. Either add to it or start your on website on cock blocking.
Lastly for the Gents, this technique works best on first meetups where you set the tone for the relationship. If she has been out with you already and no success she already knows she can stall or use you.
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Crass Act
What a bum. You invite a poor woman over, take her away from her daughter and don't even pay her taxi fare. No wonder hookers and other women hate losers.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2517589]. I put her in the Uber and she asked for money and promised to come back on Sunday (Sunday would have been 2 days later). I gave her no money and i blocked her on Whatsapp because the truth came out she wanted to fuck for money. I like regular girls who get there own.
So my success rate is still intact..[/QUOTE]
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Next time ask before insulting Pedro
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2517644]What a bum. You invite a poor woman over, take her away from her daughter and don't even pay her taxi fare. No wonder hookers and other women hate losers.[/QUOTE]I ordered and paid for her Uber both coming and going. I don't find many women in foreign countries that use Uber on their own. Typically a cheaper similar local service, or taxi, motoconcho. And she asked me if she could come over after her countless attempts to get me to go out and spend money on dinners and drinking failed.
She only mentioned her daughter (first time me hearing of it) to get money and leave. She gave the impression she was coming to spend the night after her begging me to come after standing me up 2 other times previously which resulted in me ignoring her pleas for a few days. I paid for her to come after 11pm all restaurants / bars were closed due to curfew hours. It was a game amigo designed to get what she thought could be easy money for literally nothing. You can feel free to play with them but the cab fare was all she gets for wasting my limited time and monies. I set aside one night out my newly established rotation now a third time for her.
And Hookers and other women hate losers who either do not spend there money stupidly on them for no good reason or do not fuck them after they have prepped for hours and presented themselves ready and found the loser to scared to initiate the interaction Pedro.
PS Funny shit. She reached out again to me today. Seems she hasn't learned No free money here.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2517255]Your opinion and those of many others here is worthless. I am not in the USA and have no intention of ever visiting it again as there are so many things about America and Americans I detest. This site is about having sex with women and the issues that pursuit gives rise to. One of those current issues is Covid. You are one of a number of people spamming this site with your uninformed US centric opinions. The USA not only has an unenviable position with respect to Covid but with HIV and other STIs as well. That being so, the opinion of Americans has to be taken as being a priori worth less than that of others.
Being an expat in Pattaya may qualify you for opining on the the state of street walkers there. It does not make you a risk avoider.
Being an American, you have obvious problems comprehending English (or any other language). We get that. I did not say I am exposing myself to Covid. I have not been in a large supermarket or mall since March. I have not been in a big crowd since then either. I get most groceries and sundries delivered. I have been in a bank less than three times. I have had my hair cut about the same number of times. I have read up on masks and "cheat" when wearing them so I can breathe. I could probably get an exemption if I was bothered going through the hoops to get one. So, how am I exposing myself? How am I Typhoid Mary?
There are very many elderly folk here living alone, terrorised out of their wits by folk like you. There is a government and police -sanctioned system to help them through local voluntary groups. We help deliver groceries, medicines etc, all with the official ok of the authorities and the old folk. My role is very modest in that. We look out for each other, ready to neutralize unwanted intruders if the need arises.[/QUOTE]Why would you clutter up an informative discussion with your clearly unbalanced hatred of the USA? Very troll like behavior.
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Quarantine
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2520881]I am in quarantine at the moment.
I will give a report after I get out. But I won't be using ThaiFriendly or any of the dating sites. And, no, I won't be pursuing any freebies like the nonsense being posted here.[/QUOTE]Not sure where this conversation belongs but was curious about what it takes to move to Thailand for a couple of months. Explorer8939 and others who have done this, are you able to share the process that you went through and any suggestions. (If this has already been covered here, my apologies.).
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2524333]Japanese dudes don't get drunk. Pay well and are polite.
Why you think they are Preferred Status customers.
Farang also pay but lacking in the other two categories I mentioned.[/QUOTE]Don't forget smaller dick size and that they want girls to get on top bop up and down for a few minutes until they finish. Farang want full GFE. Plain and simple its more money for less work / effort.
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So Biden is opening up the USA. As many predicted would happen.
All Political.
Is Thailand on the verge of Opening up. LOL. Starting to get worried about my $25,000 on deposit at Bangkok Bank.
One year no activity.
Maybe they think I Die and take my money.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2526094]From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. The association president added that the province's lifting of the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for visitors to Pattaya offered some hope to the tourism sector.[/QUOTE]Right now Thailand is reporting more new COVID cases than ever before. That seems inconsistent with relaxing the 14 day quarantine anywhere in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2526094]From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. [/QUOTE]I don't know why you guys keep listening to this shit. File this along with all the people that were going to come with the special visa program and the 10 million or whatever tourists that are supposed to come by September.
Just wait until real shit happens, not all the harebrained brainstorming they do for the news. When they say foreigners can come on this day without all these crazy restrictions, AND I see exactly that happening for at least 2 week, is when I will pay attention.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2526333]They have approved the AstraZ, particularly for private hospitals to purchase on their own based [/QUOTE]I would take this with a grain of salt. AstraZ have explicity stated that they will not supply to private hospitals or companies. It's Thailand, what is reported in the press and what people say are quite often different from reality.
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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2526485]I would take this with a grain of salt. AstraZ have explicity stated that they will not supply to private hospitals or companies. It's Thailand, what is reported in the press and what people say are quite often different from reality.[/QUOTE]Let me stir the pot based on what you just stated before that my post is exactly what it means like your grain of salt " It's Thailand, what is reported in the press and what people say are quite often different from reality " if you know the thinking of the Thai leaders then you would know it works both ways and maybe that is where we differ I believe no matter what AstraZ or anyone states once it gets into the hands of the leaders it will end up somehow in the hands of the private hospital. It works both ways!
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2526375]Right now Thailand is reporting more new COVID cases than ever before. That seems inconsistent with relaxing the 14 day quarantine anywhere in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is the case but within the reports last few days 900 plus, 800 plus, followed by the majority of cases from mass testing are all coming from the fish market area Samut Nakorn? For Chon Buri province reported from my morning coffee buddy tracking application says 1 case? Thus the reason the Governor is following Bangkok to ease restriction " as soon " Sat?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2526381]I don't know why you guys keep listening to this shit. File this along with all the people that were going to come with the special visa program and the 10 million or whatever tourists that are supposed to come by September.
Just wait until real shit happens, not all the harebrained brainstorming they do for the news. When they say foreigners can come on this day without all these crazy restrictions, AND I see exactly that happening for at least 2 week, is when I will pay attention.[/QUOTE]Correct! Exactly what I'm trying to state to everyone. Pattaya News is pretty much a few days behind and even when they are reporting everything wrong or complete at best. As I noted, just happy it was brought up but even then it was clearly stated if it does happen it won't until later in the year my hope is the vaccine gets distributed and the results reduce the cases and we start to get herd immunity?
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Of the last 20 campaign ideas to get tourist back to Thailand I think they found one that might work. LOL.
Target Sex tourists. We the only ones that want in.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2533106]I can be dead wrong when we are talking about go go bars in Pattaya. This is a complete opposite case. The tech worker shortage is real. That is why so many engineers are hired a year before their graduation.
How many Indian managers or CEOs have you worked with in the valley?
You know an engineer can get offers from multiple large companies at the same time, right? I don't know how large companies manage to all collude together so they all can underpay engineers and not be competitive while there is a shortage when they can afford it like you stated.
One can rent a one bedroom for that amount in South Bay. Right now, a newly built 3 bedroom with security can be rented for under $3 K in the city. Unless someone like the city life, there is no good reason to live farther, and pay more for less in the city and take gbus to work.
How Americans are losing when H1B visa holders are paying taxes here and eventually become permanent residents. Or do you think just outsource the jobs offshore like manufacturing is better?[/QUOTE]You are or have extended the conversation! First, there is nothing in my writing that suggests I'm still working so as working and knowing CEO? No one said any company is colluding together my original remarks what started as a good thing has gone haywire and off-tracked yes there was a time there was a shortage but the use of H1 B visas is now being abused. When you have departments that just handle Visas to me at least that is a problem when there are more H1 B hires and your older ones are leaving with no real protection like a (Union) and I'm not pushing one here! Companies can slowly turn the wage scale lower.
This isn't about whether visa holders are paying taxes yes they are here legally based on a loophole or abuse of the system I'm not blaming Indians or anyone. Who wouldn't come to any country if they can get a better paying job. Your argument as for taxes it is o. K to stay and take a job even if you enter illegally? Look this sounds like a Trump supporter I'm not but it doesn't mean anyone outside of the GOP doesn't feel we should take care of Americans first before outsourcing. The brightest from our schools are being offered jobs prior to graduation it is that competitive these are the top engineers their ideas are developed then pass down to those lower-paying although over 100,000 H1 B workers.
Yes, people make their choices as to where they want to live in the big City where there is everything for H1 B visas holder they are basically at-will employees with no real rights of staying unless they have a job and if things don't work out you know what happens no different in Thailand. So no one is going to buy a car, lease a house for a year (which is the norm) with the unknown? One reason they come into the City and just rent rooms (month to month) I was invited the next time I was back in the City to tour my family building what they did was just amazing these tech companies know what they are doing providing their own bus service and other services to retain the influx of lower-tech workers from other countries.
These jobs aren't the same as manufacturing except for the assembly line concept there is a difference between physical and brainpower. One thing this pandemic has opened the door that many of these jobs can be done at home. As you know there is already a trend with these tech companies depending on their responsibility can move to less expensive Cities but doing so their pay would be adjusted to the cost of living in their Cities or States. The pandemic has opened a new door and any way to save money and still get the job done wouldn't be surprised like call centers you have entired engineer centers all offshoe?
Just because they are Tech companies don't mean they can do no wrong maybe that is your view, not mines it that was the case then you also believe companies like Google / Facebook can't direct your research? In the end, companies are there to make money and lower their overhead anytime or any way they can this goes for any Gogo too.
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Can We Get Back on Topic Please?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2533035]I was born and raised in S. F.[/QUOTE]That surprises me. After reading dozens of your poorly written posts I had assumed you grew up outside the United States and English was not your mother tongue.
I realize that many gentlemen who normally would be in Thailand at this time of year are not there now. So I expect some diminution in the ISG signal-to-noise ratio. But tedious debates over American immigration policy and anecdotes about the real estate market in the bay area are well and truly off topic. Can we get back to discussing the approved subjects please?
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[QUOTE=Bunky;2533515]That surprises me. After reading dozens of your poorly written posts I had assumed you grew up outside the United States and English was not your mother tongue.
I realize that many gentlemen who normally would be in Thailand at this time of year are not there now. So I expect some diminution in the ISG signal-to-noise ratio. But tedious debates over American immigration policy and anecdotes about the real estate market in the bay area are well and truly off topic. Can we get back to discussing the approved subjects please?[/QUOTE]Personally I am too ashamed to ask posters to get on topic if I am not in Thailand and, therefore, unable to post current personal experiences on mongering in Thailand. I never ask posters to do what I myself cannot do.
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Bad nose jobs
Hopefully, one of the benefits of the lockdown will be the girls not having money to go get bad Korean nose jobs. Change my mind!! 55.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2538982]It's a name coined by sections of the US political spectrum alongside others such as Kung Flu or the China virus to describe Covid 19.[/QUOTE]It's ignoramuses US leaders that lead to the events of today. 8 people shot to death in Atlanta massage parlors.
From the Associated Press.
"It appears that they may be Asian," Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant said. The killings came amid a recent wave of attacks against Asian Americans that coincided with the spread of the coronavirus across the United States.
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Seems like a 21 year old American walked in to various Asian massage joints and started killing the Asian massage girls. Unacceptable!
Hopefully this starts an uproar in the States. Yeah right! MLLM (massage ladies lives matter) or ALM (Asian Lives Matter).
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Really
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2541248]It's ignoramuses US leaders that lead to the events of today. 8 people shot to death in Atlanta massage parlors.
From the Associated Press.
"It appears that they may be Asian," Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant said. The killings came amid a recent wave of attacks against Asian Americans that coincided with the spread of the coronavirus across the United States.[/QUOTE]Funny you forgot to mention the white people that tragically lost their life's also, hmmm hmmm.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2541257]Funny you forgot to mention the white people that tragically lost their life's also, hmmm hmmm.[/QUOTE]Early reports implied Asian victims without full details. Seems like more ongoing side effects of the deposed cult leader.
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Full Circle. In the Loop?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2472547]You are absolutely keen and correct. So many weird connections and epiphanies come my way in my life when I look back. The other day my hunting stops went on this pathway.
1. First stop Kelaya 66. Afternoon was spent on Soi 6 and Kelaya 66 Bar. It's a karaoke bar with a bit above average girls and higher drink prices than most Soi 6 bars. But the atmosphere is more like a gentleman's club with lots of fun games.
2. Then came "O" (Oochi). Early evening, got a message from a girl named "O," which is short for Oochi. "O" used to work Sapphire and now makes her money off ThaiFriendly. "O" wanted my opinion with a new tattoo. Ironically, both her and I are "cancers" in astrology and she was showing me a few options she was interested in. The chat ended up with talk about 69 ing and "O" ended meeting me in my room for a quick ST 69 and fuck for 1500. Funny thing is that I had my music on and when I unloaded, a Tekashi song was on the radio. Care to guess which? (Hint Billboard #1 in June with Nicky)..[/QUOTE]Way back in the days, when the Paw was just a fingerling and a broke ass college student in H-town, there was a highway called the 610 loop that ran around the city limits forming an oval or circle of sorts. The huge track was notorious for having some of the most seediest motels, with hookers amongst other shady ass people living and working out of them. These 610 loop motels are where the college girls that I met in my classes first applied their part time trade of selling ass. They often ask me to chauffeur and drop them off, in and around Crosstimbers, Bellaire, and South Main near the old Astrodome. Monkeypaw was also their marketing guy, and from time to time, I was able to get free samples and a little taste as if I had snuck into Costco. Memories, oh memories, where have ye gone? Having said that, let's ode to the famous 610 by kicking out one more report. Because it's been a year and I have gone full circle, loop de loop myself, and here all in Pattaya. Let's sing along folks.
"Here we go loop de loop. Here we go loop de li. Here we go loop de loop. On a Saturday night" - Johnny Thunder.
Sometimes I have to wonder, is this entire year spent in Pattaya, my Heaven, or was it a trap and my Hell? I am not a retiree. I don't receive a pension. I don't have a business or am studying in Thailand. I am not on disability. I don't work remotely or even at all. And not even sure when the last time I filed taxes. I am what I am, perhaps first, the only, and the last, homeless, jobless, nomadic, sex mongering gypsy in the entire world, but still living the vacation life in Thailand. But man, that sure does attract plenty of attention here in Pattaya because all the stories I've told when I previously so often came as a "weekend warrior," apparently are not stories at all. Especially, since I am still here with nowhere I need to be. And within this past year, I could feel the heat from these locals. Everybody trying to get in your business to what exactly does the Monkeypaw do? I had a dream that seemed so real. Some poor soul from Treetown, tried a set up with intention of extorting the Paw with his so called brown suit connections. I must look like a naive easy target to the untrained eye. The Big Boss found out and the un-named little eatery at Treetown disappeared along with its hopeless owner. Hint: Watch out for Thais that can speak English well but still working their asses off. My message is simple. People, let me relax, and enjoy whatever time that is left before I don on my spacesuit and go back to doing what I do best. My time playing spy and Trojan horse is almost over. But this was only a dream or was it?
Where to eat? I guess this Cheapie Charlie life is the best the world has to offer if you use your brain and have the know how. Let me help you find cheap eats for less than 40 baht a meal combined with entertainment and a view. The trick here is to use those delivery apps like Food Panda or Hungry Now. You get a 100 baht discount as a new user. Limitless VOIP numbers with apps and multiple emails can make these discounts, like herpes, a gift that keeps on giving. I often get large 15 inch fresh and hot, Margherita pizzas for 65 baht and Thai food dishes for even cheaper, all restaurant quality, no need to cook. But I definitely do feel guilty on the styrofoam and plastic they send. Combine these take outs and delivery with the right bar or liquor van, that just serve alcohol, and you have a very cheap dinner, drinks, and entertainment night. Lunch time, I often go to Terminal 21 at Pier 21. Sure it's 10 baht there and 10 baht back, but the price their food around 40 baht, even for fish and chips. By the way, if the big girl behind the counter, tells you they are out of fish and chips, she's just being lazy or doesn't like you. Anyways, I like to dine in and then order an extra dish to put in my own tupperware. What they give you is not sturdy, leaks, and they charge you 5 baht for less food to take away. The fun thing at Pier 21 is often your will see bar girls there without their make up. It's like Halloween everyday of you look hard enough. Fun fun while having lunch. But Monkeypaw still likes to play chef and cook his own food, but I no longer invite girls to stay and eat. Too personal and it's unwanted attention during times like this. So my three F's in the past (fuck, food, fifty baht for taxi) is now just one F. I wonder am I cheap?
Where to stay? Hotels and condos are no more than 10,000 baht for room and utilities. Maytara, P Plus, and LK Metropole are my picks for best at 10,000 baht. Stay away from AirBnB and Agoda. Book one or two nights and then walk around exploring. You will find decent rooms from 6500-10,000 per month all inclusive. I often move around room to room, just because it's safer that way for me. So far after one year, I've stayed 8 different places. Anonymity and privacy is still the best defense against the locals and the girls, especially when staying here this long. Don't need to be tracked and traced, not that I do anything wrong.
Where them hos at? As for girls, I have my small stable of girls, and all at 1300 short time GFE. This list includes a What's Up model (used to drop 10-12,000 baht on her), a Unixx leasing agent that I see once a week just for sex (no food or meet outside my room), and a light skinned ThaiFriendly chick who is half Thai / European. All 3 girls are slim, 22-23 years old, 40-41 kilos, with natural perky tits, tight bubble butts, a lovely faces, just like Monkeypaw likes them. A couple of times a week, I will branch out and test the waters (I pay no more than 1500 for Panda Club girls, Insomnia girls, TF girls, and Gogo or bar girls for 1 hour before work or off day), but I keep going back to my 3 amigas. Massages no more than 300 plus 200 tip, for in my room, body to body with oil and a BJ. I have yet to feel the urge to fuck during an oil massage session. And I have not gone to check out the only soapy open near Central Marina with the yogurt bath, even though it's under new name and management. Keep in mind, these prices for my type of girls and fun is YMMV x YMMV even some more. I've been here one whole freaking year and only banged 65 or so girls. Monkeypaw used to drop that many girls on a 60 day tourist visa. It is just that I refuse to change up my standards and what I like. I don't care if I am running out of new girls. So does this make me a Cheap Charlie because I spend less than before? Notice, I haven't sacrificed quality and it's about finding hidden treasures and gems. This is what hunting is all about.
As for the Go Go bars. I do this 2-3 times a week while munching on Hawaiian Babies like a bird. I wonder does a Phoenix even eat these seeds? Pin Up is still pretty much the only decent thing left on Walking Street, but the quality is down from last year's first reopening. The best girls are not gone and some went online OnlyFans or some other cam sites. Most of the ones I reviewed are gone. Bliss and Palace combined ladies, but still not many girls as Pin Up. Some of the girls left with one of the Palace mamas to got to Dolls LK. About 70% of LK is open, but only Lady Love and Queen is tolerable with some Sapphire leftovers. Baccara is closed but some girls manage to wiggle their ample asses to Golden Time Buakahao. I went there to get a free drink on St. Patty's but I guess they didn't consider the Paw Irish or green enough. Many of the Go Go clubs that reopened back then, like Sensations and Kink, did not make it this time around and are closed. And for what is open, the quality that's left now, is not that great. Let me repeat myself, most of the hotter girls are not dancing on stage at this time. But every dude has his own taste, and there still are a few gems here and there and everywhere. You can definitely forget the Beach Road (eww), unless you are out doing some cardio speed walking while needing to looking at poon or the homeless. And forget Soi 6. The few girls that are left, are too busy inside with the live video feeds, trying to get drinks and gifts from "we wish we were there guys" stuck in their home country. So as for the entire Soi 6, there is no people watching going on because the girls are rarely on the streets luring in customers (because there few of them too.) It sucks but operates more like a brothel without their best. And Slice Pizza is more expensive at the store than on the app. Ridiculous!
With nothing else left to say.
Monkeypaw's List of Girls and the Awards at Pin Up.
406 model "Miss Best Natural Boobs" (will let you play with them).
144 coyote "Miss Best Ass Back View".
458 model "Miss Best Ass Side View".
348 model "Miss Cutest Face" (no so cute body).
403 model "Miss Biggest Head" (questionable ladyboy).
349 model "Miss Broadest Shoulder".
378 model "Miss Sleepyhead" (always yawning, but best overall natural body).
300 model "Miss Prettiest Face" (body not).
350 model "Miss Torpedoes Nips".
The End.
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They finally finished 610 at 45 south
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2541322]Way back in the days, when the Paw was just a fingerling and a broke ass college student in H-town, there was a highway called the 610 loop that ran around the city limits forming an oval or circle of sorts. The huge track was notorious for having some of the most seediest motels, with hookers amongst other shady ass people living and working out of them. These 610 loop motels are where the college girls that I met in my classes first applied their part time trade of selling ass. They often ask me to chauffeur and drop them off, in and around Crosstimbers, Bellaire, and South Main near the old Astrodome. Monkeypaw was also their marketing guy, and from time to time, I was able to get free samples and a little taste as if I had snuck into Costco. Memories, oh memories, where have ye gone? Having said that, let's ode to the famous 610 by kicking out one more report. Because it's been a year and I have gone full circle, loop de loop myself, and here all in Pattaya. Let's sing along folks.
The End.[/QUOTE]You can come back now. They finally finished the construction at 610 and 45 south.
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Would it be considered disrespectful to the King to do origami with currency that had the king's picture on it? I think it would be a fun way to tip a bar girl. Most wouldn't care maybe.
Thanks for any answer.
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610
For those that missed it The Paw's ode to the 610 Loop in Houston was also his 610th post. Glad to see MonkeyPaw laying low a bit in Pattaya. Pattaya has its share of bad hombres whom it is best to avoid no matter you're connections.
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What happened
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2541248]It's ignoramuses US leaders that lead to the events of today. 8 people shot to death in Atlanta massage parlors.
From the Associated Press.
"It appears that they may be Asian," Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant said. The killings came amid a recent wave of attacks against Asian Americans that coincided with the spread of the coronavirus across the United States..[/QUOTE]You used to be spot on and actually helpful to the board, seems that all went away, and now love talking about USA politics and cutting it up, weird, for someone that hates, us so much you seem to love to talk about a lot, your post was way to early and way off!
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2541484]You used to be spot on and actually helpful to the board, seems that all went away[/QUOTE]sent you a PM Shack.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2541422]Would it be considered disrespectful to the King to do origami with currency that had the king's picture on it? I think it would be a fun way to tip a bar girl. Most wouldn't care maybe.
Thanks for any answer.[/QUOTE]Bar girls may not care but a lot of others would. The current King / regime in Thailand have tightened up the Lese Majeste enforcement. Several years ago a tourist got in an argument with a taxi driver, so he threw 500 baht on th ground and stomped on it. He got arrested and I think deported. Just look in the Thai media for how many people have been arrested in the past year or so. Even if you do get arrested a bar girl or local patron may get offended and arrange for 5 guys to beat the crap out of you.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2541322]Way back in the days, ....
The End.[/QUOTE]It has been a long time since I read such a comprehensive report. This is exactly what I am looking for at the moment. And even if maybe I don't always have the same expectations, I can easily project myself into your description. There are a lot of ideas and experiences that interest me. To a large extent I recognize what I know about Pattaya and what has become of it now.
For my part, after many failures, various attempts ready to succeed, especially at the beginning of the year, the various lockdowns in Thailand and now in France, I am still stuck in Paris.
I have started a vaccination process with AstraZaneca yesterday and I will have my second injection at the end of May. Hopefully (which I don't really expect after all these changes for 1 year), and I will try to come to Thailand in June / July and / or October.
At the beginning of 2021 I was ready to carry out 16 days of quarantine, I had a visa and a COE. Now I don't want to do any more. I'll just do a vaccination, a test and that's it. I no longer want quarantine or no more than 2 days to take a test on arrival. To complete with my state of mind, I'm a little tired of being taken for a flipper ball and I'm at the end of my exasperation to come to Thailand, and it makes me very sad about it. And on condition that the reception conditions are profoundly modified and finally turned for the tourists and that there are no other sanitary setbacks (which seems a difficult bet to win in fact) and I expect everything now.
This scenario will be invalidated if the vaccine is no longer effective against new variants. And something tells me it's possible going to happen.
At this point, I just have one additional question if you agree to answer: how old are you?
Anyway, Thanks again for your time.
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Quarantine has been reduced to 10 days.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2542654]Quarantine has been reduced to 10 days.[/QUOTE]But when this can be end for forever?
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Pattaya the new ToyBox, err, Sandbox, oh please do this.
Please do this. [URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2021/03/22/minister-of-tourism-visits-pattaya-today-to-discuss-sandbox-policy-to-welcome-foreign-tourists-to-stay-in-pattaya-without-quarantine/[/URL].
I hope this happens, two weeks in the toybox and then the entire country available. A quarantine I can live with.
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Read the article, makes it sound nice and fluffy like you will be in Pattaya City and Banglamung but this is the line that is concerning "To make a sandbox is more difficult on the mainland than on islands. " Does this mean your entire quarantine will be spent on Ko Lan and Ko Phai for most? That would be pretty damn boring imo, unless you like monkeys of course.
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[QUOTE=JohnReter335;2543632]But when this can be end for forever?[/QUOTE]1. 10/1 or 2/1, depending on the outcome of their phased reopening plans. They're supposed to reopen with no quarantine if you have a vaccine passport. But I think on 10/1, that's only for specified "sandbox" districts (e. G. Chonburi, Phuket, etc). This will also depend heavily on how fast they can vaccinate their population.
2. CDC revises their travel guidelines for vaccinated travelers and Thailand adopts it. It really makes very little sense to make vaccinated people quarantine.
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[QUOTE=Achmmc;2543704]Please do this. [URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2021/03/22/minister-of-tourism-visits-pattaya-today-to-discuss-sandbox-policy-to-welcome-foreign-tourists-to-stay-in-pattaya-without-quarantine/[/URL].
I hope this happens, two weeks in the toybox and then the entire country available. A quarantine I can live with.[/QUOTE]I doubt this will happen. This is basically a proposal by Pattaya to get vaccinated and open first. I don't think the rest of Thailand would agree to something like that. Even though Pattaya and Phuket may provide lots of tax revenue to Thailand, I've rarely seen that as an excuse to give those regions special treatment.
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10 Day Quarantine
Just confirming that the ten day quarantine is official.
[URL]https://pr.moph.go.th/?url=pr/detail/2/04/155816/[/URL]
And on the US embassy website:
[URL]https://thaiembdc.org/2021/03/26/relaxation-of-regulations-to-enter-thailand-and-procedures-of-the-quarantine-from-1-april-2021/[/URL]
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Same,
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2541570]sent you a PM Shack.[/QUOTE]I also sent you one back, maybe you not get?
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Thailand approves Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine
Bangkok (Reuters) - Thailand has granted emergency authorization to Janssen, the single-dose coronavirus vaccine of Johnson & Johnson, the country's health minister said on Thursday, the third vaccine to be cleared for local use.
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[QUOTE=TonyMontanaaO7;2544886]Bangkok (Reuters) - Thailand has granted emergency authorization to Janssen, the single-dose coronavirus vaccine of Johnson & Johnson, the country's health minister said on Thursday, the third vaccine to be cleared for local use.[/QUOTE]Do you think these vaccines are good? I mean these are working because you can hear many rumors about this.
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One of my gogo girls told me that Thailand has started a 14 day quarantine for people in Bangkok who want to travel to another province such as Chonburi. Imagine being in a 14 day Bangkok ASQ and you get out tomorrow thinking you can go party in Pattaya. Wrong. Now you have to do another 14 day quarantine in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2548988]One of my gogo girls told me that Thailand has started a 14 day quarantine for people in Bangkok who want to travel to another province such as Chonburi. Imagine being in a 14 day Bangkok ASQ and you get out tomorrow thinking you can go party in Pattaya. Wrong. Now you have to do another 14 day quarantine in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]That is just speculation, the PM came out saying the opposite, ruling out a lockdown. We will know more today when an official announcement comes out.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2549010]That is just speculation, the PM came out saying the opposite, ruling out a lockdown. We will know more today when an official announcement comes out.[/QUOTE]Speculation or not, contradictory statements by Thai government officials or not, my info from a very close repeat girl is the same as Banana Boi's. The girl left my room Wednesday morning, ticket in hand, heading to the airport for a flight to visit her mom in Loei. She called me from the airport to tell me she will not go because she was told she would be required to do a 14 day quarantine upon landing and she was only going there for a week!
She cancelled her flight and is laying naked next to me in bed now.
This Is Thailand. Much of the time what is said and what we read does not count. Ultimately, the only thing that counts is what the man or woman collecting the tickets or weilding the ink stamp on that particular day at that particular hour wants to do.
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The 613th Commandment
This may sound a little loco, but there are actually 613 Commandments, not just 10. The 613th Commandment says, "Not to retain her for servitude after having relations with her. (Deuteronomy 21:14)".
Monkeypaw's Take: Once you've banged them, free them and let them go find something better. I can tell you now, most of the better looking and smarter girls are not coming back. Mr. E is right, if there is a better way, they will keep at it. Like Little Troy said they will "Hit the highway, making money the fly way. But there's got to be a better way! A better way, better way, yeah!" And I am not talking about the bottom of the barrel girls at Soi 6 with their live streams, buy me drink, give me a gift scams. Folks need to research about OnlyFans where these girls are banking with monthly subscriptions, paid for fee content, and selling used panties and shit. Plus it only takes a few suckers to fall in love with them and give them the big bucks. If guys get scammed by these girls in Thailand, having visited Thailand over and over, imagine the poor sap that still lives with his parents at the age of 40 on the other side of the world. OnlyFans draws from a base hundreds of millions around the world. These girls who have found the better way, and need to be let go. By the way, they are getting help uploading content from outside of Thailand or via VPN because of the laws here.
[URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/national/some-thais-post-x-rated-content-on-onlyfans-to-earn-money-during-the-pandemic[/URL]
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/tuckythai[/URL]
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/partythai[/URL]
Insider Tip: So 14 days entertainment venues shut down (everything else is open) thanks to the Japanese Ambassador and Thai politicians getting busted at Krystal Club. Draw your own conclusions to what really went on and the other places they went to because they refuse to track and trace the elites. Also there is so much deflection and diversion tactics going on. Oh well, back to my regulars, getting massages, and making movies.
[URL]https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Thai-cabinet-becomes-COVID-hot-spot-as-ministers-quarantine[/URL]
What is Krystal Club?
[URL]https://web.facebook.com/147177845913664/posts/354665325164914/?_rdc=1&_rdr[/URL] (site has been blocked in Thailand now).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07mZt_3eiE[/URL] (plus they private VIP karaoke rooms).
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Pubs, clubs in Bangkok, 40 other provinces to shut for 2 weeks.
Thong Lor cluster spread intensifies.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2096975/pubs-clubs-in-bangkok-40-other-provinces-to-shut-for-2-weeks[/URL]
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Music to My Ears. GFE Audio.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2541322].... Where them hos at? As for girls, I have my small stable of girls, and all at 1300 short time GFE. This list includes a What's Up model (used to drop 10-12,000 baht on her), a Unixx leasing agent that I see once a week just for sex (no food or meet outside my room), and a light skinned ThaiFriendly chick who is half Thai / European. All 3 girls are slim, 22-23 years old, 40-41 kilos, with natural perky tits, tight bubble butts, a lovely faces, just like Monkeypaw likes them. A couple of times a week, I will branch out and test the waters (I pay no more than 1500 for Panda Club girls, Insomnia girls, TF girls, and Gogo or bar girls for 1 hour before work or off day), but I keep going back to my 3 amigas...
The End.[/QUOTE]Not sure what others think about my eyes and taste when comes to picking girls, but what about the ears? These are from Monkeypaw's 3 regulars I see each week in Pattaya. With this 14 days entertainment venue closure, I guess my LINE will be blowing up. Anyways, if the definition of real GFE is untimed, random sex, without showering, funny smells or odors, bad breath, no toothbrushing, no make up on, cum in pussy now, but worry later type of sex, I prefer to stick to whatever it is I am doing now. I thank God everyday for 100% aloe gel and being able to cum inside a condom. Not sure which session sounds like the most GFE. Girl 1, 2, or 3. They all begin to sound the same to me now. Bunch of crybabies.
1. [URL]https://voca.ro/14zcI0i6VIBB[/URL].
2. [URL]https://voca.ro/1nTRQlPpe6hX[/URL].
3. [URL]https://voca.ro/13C12eLtRuze[/URL].
And just in case anybody is interested and likes my taste in music above minus the moaning. Enjoy the links. I think I have supplied almost every Gogo bar on WS at least a couple of songs. For sure, Imagine Club and What's Up so so many. These girls love "bounce music" to bounce their tits and asses to. Add it to your playlist and be cool.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxDsB-JxAo[/URL] (Edward Maya- Stereo Love).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7vdv1OzIY[/URL] (DJ Layla- Don't Go).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4jXmPmy54[/URL] (Neteta- Kissing Your Shadow).
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Dammit. Still 7 days quarantine even with vaccination
Still in sex prison, still lacking flights. You would think they would have some special COVID girls to relieve lonely and horny quarantine guys.
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Doing 7 Day Quarantine Now
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2551016]Still in sex prison, still lacking flights. You would think they would have some special COVID girls to relieve lonely and horny quarantine guys.[/QUOTE]I'm doing the 7 day quarantine now. I'm in my ASQ hotel as I type this. I'd be happy to answer questions if anyone has any. I guess it comes back to are people trying to use their vacation time to come here in which case they don't have a week to waste? Or are they retired or able to work remotely? I fall into the latter category and figure what is a week to be in a buyer's market? Half price rent and less competition for women. (I can vouch for the half price rent although I'm obviously not quite on the ground yet to report on the women situation only speculating.) The 3 meals a day I'm getting are just fine and I'm already on Tinder and thaifriendly setting up dates. I've had more matches in the few days I've been here than I'd get in over a month back home in the states. My 7 day ASQ was $550.
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Deliver Us From Evil (2020)
[QUOTE=Cohend386;2551149]I'm doing the 7 day quarantine now. I'm in my ASQ hotel as I type this. I'd be happy to answer questions if anyone has any. I guess it comes back to are people trying to use their vacation time to come here in which case they don't have a week to waste? Or are they retired or able to work remotely? I fall into the latter category and figure what is a week to be in a buyer's market? Half price rent and less competition for women. (I can vouch for the half price rent although I'm obviously not quite on the ground yet to report on the women situation only speculating.) The 3 meals a day I'm getting are just fine and I'm already on Tinder and thaifriendly setting up dates. I've had more matches in the few days I've been here than I'd get in over a month back home in the states. My 7 day ASQ was $550.[/QUOTE]For anybody who is bored in lockdown or in to Korean action and drama movies (lots better than USA), this one involves Korean, Japanese, and Thai gangsters. This one is filmed in Bangkok. Funny how they filmed a make shift Red Light area out of Sukhumvit 20 Alley. Reminds me of how they did they same with Sukhumvit 7/1 for The Hangover.
Can watch it free on [URL]123moviesca.com[/URL] and thank me later (may need to download subtitles from online and then upload to movie).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoDI4vGGSFY[/URL]
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Monkeypaw wisdom
Ah, yes, the bible (s) allows cherry picking all over. Another one from Deuteronomy:
"When you March up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies".
Good Christian values. Religion is such bullshit.
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Happy BJ of horse sized cock
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video30893573/thai_noot_filthy_anal_4[/URL]
In one scene, legs over shoulders mish, pussy really stretched. She is very experienced at BJ, happy and friendly, every fellow should have BJ with coffee waking up. Gets the day off to a good start.
Monkeypaws audio is amusing. As cute as they look, many will take it anally like champs, this is how life should be.
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Wiser Words from the Paw
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2551311]Ah, yes, the bible (s) allows cherry picking all over. Another one from Deuteronomy:
"When you March up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies".
Good Christian values. Religion is such bullshit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Allover;2541452]For those that missed it The Paw's ode to the 610 Loop in Houston was also his 610th post. Glad to see MonkeyPaw laying low a bit in Pattaya. Pattaya has its share of bad hombres whom it is best to avoid no matter you're connections.[/QUOTE]Not that I disagree about your point on religion, but my reference to the 613th Commandment (and setting hookers free) was also my 613th posting on ISG. Monkeypaw style writing is always full of codes, hidden meanings, metaphors, and clues for those who have been gifted to read between the lines or connect. Some get it, some are totally lost, and some don't care. I've left a pretty nice trail of fun bits and tips in most of postings if people dissect them carefully. Unfortunately, our minds all don't work on the same level and I have no problem leaving behind those who can't keep up. But by the way, if you ever find yourself marching on and surrounding, a gated city with an army, you've pretty much already won.
[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2542477]This scenario will be invalidated if the vaccine is no longer effective against new variants. And something tells me it's possible going to happen.
At this point, I just have one additional question if you agree to answer: how old are you?
Anyway, Thanks again for your time.[/QUOTE]I am eternal. But in this human body, somewhere in mid-thirties, I believe, maybe younger.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551188]For anybody who is bored in lockdown or in to Korean action and drama movies (lots better than USA), this one involves Korean, Japanese, and Thai gangsters. This one is filmed in Bangkok. Funny how they filmed a make shift Red Light area out of Sukhumvit 20 Alley. Reminds me of how they did they same with Sukhumvit 7/1 for The Hangover.
Can watch it free on [URL]123moviesca.com[/URL] and thank me later (may need to download subtitles from online and then upload to movie).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoDI4vGGSFY[/URL][/QUOTE]Good choice, I've seen that movie recently and I agree it's a great action movie, and the plus side is that it's been recorded in Thailand with what it seems to be real Thai actors.
Koreans are very impressive in movie making nowadays, they are exporting their culture very well.
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Simian digits
Monkeypaw: nice coincidence, it's also prime, but I was not particularly paying attention, and perhaps wrongly lumped you in with the rabble, as to which apologies tendered.
It's a funny thing why we screw women given the hassle, but I suppose it is part of being a social animal. The more interesting question is the myth of Hollywood romance that seems to me to be a mask for weak inner self and / or network of same sex (platonic) relationships and laying off emotional bets from a single point of failure. Fixing the latter is highly subversive to the economic mandates of reproduction of tax and consumption units, recently used as cannon fodder, factor labor and before that serfs. Perhaps this is why our hobby meets disapproval which is found in Coritnthians that in modern parlance misquotes. I'm an atheist of course. One look at the sky tells anyone religion is BS and post the Hubble telescope revelations, it takes wilful ignorance.
I enjoyed your sound tracks and trust the young lass in my link shows the proper way to cheerfully please men. I'll take a girl like that any day over a 10 starfish. I wish I could travel without quarantine to assist Thailand's foreign exchange earnings and renewable resources.
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2551016]Still in sex prison, still lacking flights. You would think they would have some special COVID girls to relieve lonely and horny quarantine guys.[/QUOTE]I picked an ALQ hotel in Pattaya within walking distance of many bars. Now, if I could only figure out a way to sneak a bar girl in.
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Another recent one
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2551450]Good choice, I've seen that movie recently and I agree it's a great action movie, and the plus side is that it's been recorded in Thailand with what it seems to be real Thai actors.
Koreans are very impressive in movie making nowadays, they are exporting their culture very well.[/QUOTE]Try this one on the same free movie website I gave you for the last one. It is also streaming on Netflix a well. I'm not even Korean, but I dig the originality of their flicks. Sometimes very unpredictable. But did you notice that the one filmed in Bangkok wasn't at Nana, Patpong, or Soi Cowboy? They filmed it across from Radisson Blu while I was staying there. If you look very closely, somebody made a guest appearance for a second or two. Funny thing about the movie as well is the Koreans total disrespect for the Thais. They filmed the Thais using dark skinned actors and using trashy and dirty areas of Bangkok. There is an emphasis on not trusting those Thais, because they are always scamming, even other gangsters. (Don't want to ruin the plot for others). LOL.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sm6_FK51VA[/URL]
Night in Paradise (2020).
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2550159]
And just in case anybody is interested and likes my taste in music above minus the moaning. Enjoy the links. I think I have supplied almost every Gogo bar on WS at least a couple of songs. For sure, Imagine Club and What's Up so so many. These girls love "bounce music" to bounce their tits and asses to. Add it to your playlist and be cool.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7vdv1OzIY[/URL] (DJ Layla- Don't Go).[/QUOTE]Big thumbs up to DJ Layla Don't Go remix.
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There is a Double Mutant variant now from India.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551648]Try this one on the same free movie website I gave you for the last one. It is also streaming on Netflix a well. I'm not even Korean, but I dig the originality of their flicks. Sometimes very unpredictable. But did you notice that the one filmed in Bangkok wasn't at Nana, Patpong, or Soi Cowboy? They filmed it across from Radisson Blu while I was staying there. If you look very closely, somebody made a guest appearance for a second or two. Funny thing about the movie as well is the Koreans total disrespect for the Thais. They filmed the Thais using dark skinned actors and using trashy and dirty areas of Bangkok. There is an emphasis on not trusting those Thais, because they are always scamming, even other gangsters. (Don't want to ruin the plot for others). LOL.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sm6_FK51VA[/URL]
Night in Paradise (2020).[/QUOTE]I find these Korean movies to be quite good in story and action but the dialogue being either dubbed or with subtitles is pretty bad. It might make sense in Korean but much is lost in translation to the point of being stupid sometimes. 555.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2551895]There is a Double Mutant variant now from India.[/QUOTE]Once the pandemic was a worldwide event I made the prediction that India would end up leading the world with the most cases. Not just because of the number of people but also because of the poverty and living conditions. For a long time it looked like I was full of shit but after a slow start they are starting to catch up fast. Luckily for them their deaths are on the low side percentage use.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2551982]Once the pandemic was a worldwide event I made the prediction that India would end up leading the world with the most cases. Not just because of the number of people but also because of the poverty and living conditions. For a long time it looked like I was full of shit but after a slow start they are starting to catch up fast. Luckily for them their deaths are on the low side percentage use.[/QUOTE]Regarding your prediction, I can recall when India first started seeing large numbers of infections, Modi ordered a lockdown for 14 hours. I recall thinking at the time, "That will fix the problem".
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Who gets in first?
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2551982]Once the pandemic was a worldwide event I made the prediction that India would end up leading the world with the most cases. Not just because of the number of people but also because of the poverty and living conditions. For a long time it looked like I was full of shit but after a slow start they are starting to catch up fast. Luckily for them their deaths are on the low side percentage use.[/QUOTE]And at that time everybody thought the USA visitors would be the last visitors to be allowed back into Thailand. That can't be the case now.
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I'll do you one better.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2551982]Once the pandemic was a worldwide event I made the prediction that India would end up leading the world with the most cases. Not just because of the number of people but also because of the poverty and living conditions. For a long time it looked like I was full of shit but after a slow start they are starting to catch up fast. Luckily for them their deaths are on the low side percentage use.[/QUOTE]This is a repeat reminder, but damn how impressive is this? Speaking of predictions, back in April 2019, a whopping 7 months before the first case of COVID-19 made news November of 2020, Monkeypaw posted on Facebook a photo of the painting "The Triumph of Death" by Pieter Bruegel the Elder. Captions underneath? "The End is Near." The painting itself is a depiction of plagues, how they affect social order, ensuing chaos, and the beliefs of the people. Monkeypaw had an ominous message given to me in my dreams by the spirit world. I then told some my acquaintances to travel and get their bucket list out of the way. Needless to say, not many of them listened, so I was on my own. Somehow I was guided to Thailand as only a tourist for fun and travel. And this is where I sit and wait until it all unfolds. (Sorta like Stephen King's The Stand). I can tell you now, it's those variants and the discrepancies between rich and poor people and countries, that will keep this ongoing. Meanwhile, the civil unrest and wars keep raging.
P.S. What's more amazing is when I conveyed this with XXL. He saw the painting and knew exactly who painted it and why. How refined is guy?
[URL]https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/medicine-through-time/the-triumph-of-death-image-analysis-on-the-black-death/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2551982]Once the pandemic was a worldwide event I made the prediction that India would end up leading the world with the most cases. Not just because of the number of people but also because of the poverty and living conditions. For a long time it looked like I was full of shit but after a slow start they are starting to catch up fast. Luckily for them their deaths are on the low side percentage use.[/QUOTE]USA has shown that being stupid is more dangerous than poverty or population density. Land of the free and covid deniers have been the worst affected among all countries.
In Thailand, while migrants or refugees may have contributed to the initial rise in cases, they remained within a cluster and have been easily contained by government. The recent rise in cases were caused by the stupid rich who bar-hopped in Bangkok and took the virus back to multiple locations. They became super spreaders affecting larger scale taking the virus beyond clusters.
India was also able to control the cases better initially. The current rise in cases were all due to returning germ carriers coming from Brazil, UK and SA who didn't comply with the quarantine measures contact tracing requirement of the government and thereby spreading the virus big-time. Another instance where the poor ends up paying the price for the stupidity of the rich.
India should go for another lockdown for a couple of months. The vaccination drive should include a larger target group and vaccination production should be ramped up and let more private players participate and increase the vaccination rate. Good news is India has the capability to ramp up the vaccination production and the government is working to ensure more people get the vaccination. Sputnik is now an approved vaccine. Multiple companies have got permission to produce the vaccine. These companies already have been producing other vaccine and medicine and now will also produce covid vaccine. So no issue with technical capabilities here. Also, May 1, 2021 onwards anyone 18+ can get vaccinated if available. Definitely not the sign of a poverty stricken country.
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[QUOTE=LooseCannon;2553031]USA has shown that being stupid is more dangerous than poverty or population density. Land of the free and covid deniers have been the worst affected among all countries.[/QUOTE]I object to you blaming this on USA stupidity. It is also USA greed, selfishness, narcissism, and exercising freedoms when inappropriate.
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The Paw-Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2552986]These posts of his reminds me of the scams ghetto crack working girl single moms would perpetrate using vouchers and food stamps to game the system. Here is a idea how about doing something as simple as living by your own strength and labour rather than collecting daddies stipend, if you want to impress us. Its equally hilarious to equate his 100 baht food scams to the scams run by MNC to validate his edgy success.[/QUOTE]Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal? What about Robin Hood?
The Paw has been called names here before but I'm guessing this is the first time he has been compared to a ghetto crack working girl. Bet he laughed his ass off with that one. But Robin Hood may be more fitting. He is one of few Pattaya posters talking about girls and posting pictures as well. He talks about relevant non-monger activities as well IE ATMs. And remember his donations of time and gifts to local orphanages. I have a tremendous respect for that. As to his remarks that many find off the wall, you have to take the bad with the good. Just like you have to take Robin Hood who did bad things to help the good people. And don't forget the ignore button if you so choose.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2553241]Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal? What about Robin Hood?
The Paw has been called names here before but I'm guessing this is the first time he has been compared to a ghetto crack working girl. Bet he laughed his ass off with that one. But Robin Hood may be more fitting. He is one of few Pattaya posters talking about girls and posting pictures as well. He talks about relevant non-monger activities as well IE ATMs. And remember his donations of time and gifts to local orphanages. I have a tremendous respect for that. As to his remarks that many find off the wall, you have to take the bad with the good. Just like you have to take Robin Hood who did bad things to help the good people. And don't forget the ignore button if you so choose.[/QUOTE]His photos are so bad it looks as if he is taking them on the Sly. Without the girls permission.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2553241]The Paw has been called names here before but I'm guessing this is the first time he has been compared to a ghetto crack working girl. He is one of few Pattaya posters talking about girls and posting pictures as well. He talks about relevant non-monger activities as well IE ATMs. And remember his donations of time and gifts to local orphanages.[/QUOTE]Funny the people that criticize have posted no reports or pictures and the people that actually know him have nothing bad to say about him. But I guess that is just how the internet works.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553252]Funny the people that criticize have posted no reports or pictures and the people that actually know him have nothing bad to say about him. But I guess that is just how the internet works.[/QUOTE]I don't think guys who know MP would say anything bad about him. Why create Enemies.
This is where Mother says just bite your tongue-its in your best interests.
His online persona is just Cringe.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553252]Funny the people that criticize have posted no reports or pictures and the people that actually know him have nothing bad to say about him. But I guess that is just how the internet works.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. Guys need to weed out who is credible and who is not on here. Lots of very active handles on here pretending they know stuff when they haven't even been to Thailand or made a 1 week visit years ago.
There should be a private section on this forum where only members who have met in person can access. Members also need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene (ie. able to write current bar and girl reviews).
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2553263]I don't think guys who know MP would say anything bad about him. Why create Enemies.[/QUOTE]
You clearly don't know me then!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2553360]Absolutely agree. Guys need to weed out who is credible and who is not on here. Lots of very active handles on here pretending they know stuff when they haven't even been to Thailand or made a 1 week visit years ago.
There should be a private section on this forum where only members who have met in person can access. Members also need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene (ie. able to write current bar and girl reviews).[/QUOTE]Weren't you one of those MP singled out as not being disappointed by his presence.
Can you confirm you were in Awe of his Majestic-ness.
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My Two Cents
You have to hand it to the MP from Pattaya, he knows which buttons to push to get a reaction. He follows Oscar Wilde's maxim that "there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about". Of course some his tales are no more than Walter Mitty flights of fancy intended merely to excite a reaction. That said on the plus side he has a relatively simplistic literary style and he does not react to the negative posts some of which are truly beyond the pale. He enjoys the notoriety along with his cohort of followers and in at least one obvious instance his alter ego. All in all I personally find his posts adolescently amusing and even sometimes informative and I have no doubt having another member talking about him will warm the cockles of his little heart.
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Best Quarterbacks in the Game
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2549926]So I've been following that Korean boys livestream. He has 2 girls with him, pretty sure like100%paid.
Lots of eating and drinking.
Looks like he makes a lot of money, lots of paid subs. And quite a few donated money during Livestream.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2548676]So I keep watching that Korean boy vid over and over again. Something's just not kosher...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547938]Next stop- his livestream s.
You won't be disappointed.
Way better than that Chalao'd video.
Trust me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2546752]If you all missing Thailand. May I recommend a Korea guy's you tube channel.
He actually interacts with Pretty Thai girls.
He just did a livestream from somewhere in Thailand....[/QUOTE]So correct me if I am wrong. You are not in Thailand. Have no reviews of girls or venues.
1. Spend all day watching some Korean guy who is.
2. Spend all night watching Miss Jira in Thailand videos.
3. Whatever remaining time in between, occupy with the Facebooks of Rainbow girls.
And from your armchair in your living room, you make comments about the others who post reports and pictures? I think you already got checkmated when I posted pretty clear photos (and some not so clear) and the LINE of that girl you adored so much from your" Korean guy. " Nice try, but carry on.
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Soi Dogs Matter
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551704]SNIP...Onwards ho to Slice Pizza nearby! 125 baht for a Bacon Supreme 9 inch (hold the bacon). Buy 1 get 1 Free. Plus 60 baht off voucher So 2 Bacon Supreme 9 inch pizza minus the bacon (my choice) came out to 65 baht for both.
And yes, the Slice Pizza staff looked at me funny, as if I just robbed them when I picked up my order. Here comes the kicker. They must have not been able to read English too well and kept the bacon on. I just carried it away, took a photo, picked off the bacon, fed it to some soi dogs, and ate my pizzas while relaxing on the beach sidewalk. I was munching away and staring at all the sweaty people exercising up, down, up, down. When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund. So the pizzas were free, plus I made a positive 35 baht. What a lucky day! Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal? ...SNIP [/QUOTE]Who said what, I'll leave it blind. But trails can easily be followed. And before I signed up for ISG many moons ago, I lurked. And lurking was free, plus you didn't have to log on but still can read all the posts from everyone. But I guess it's Rocket Science to some.
1. "Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not. As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else. ".
Monkeypaw says: Food Panda has a $4 billion dollar valuation. You order from the app, you do not have any contact with the restaurant whatsoever, if there is a problem with the food or delivery. Food Panda gave the refund, not the restaurant. However, Slice Pizza charges 125 baht for the same pizza for dine in or walk in and pick up. So who is ripping off who? By me sharing this offer of buy 1 get 1 free plus 60 baht off, even on a mongering site, it is pretty helpful to those who are in Pattaya. Which is apparently not you. Why am I explaining this to you when you are obviously clueless to how food delivery apps work, I dunno?
2. "he gave the bacon to the dogs and ate the pizza but lied that he was a Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because they had been contaminated by the bacon and thus couldn't eat them. They got the order wrong but he cheated them out of the 100 baht since he ate the pizzas."
Monkeypaw says: Where did you read that I said I lied? I wrote, "I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon". Are you saying that you know who exactly gets to be Muslim and who doesn't? Enlighten me please on who gets to say they are Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, or whatever religion that tickets their fancy versus who is "lying". I've known people who say they are Muslims in the USA that eat pork. I know hookers in Angeles City that fuck 3 or 4 men a night and say they are Catholics. I don't tell that they are lying, because who am I to judge? The word "Islam" translates into "submit to God. " The closest thing to that is "like God. " And the closest thing to "like God" is the Archangel Michael. Did you one of his domain is "food" and other is "knowledge?" Sure is neat how there is Mike's Shopping Mall, 2 Mike's Hotel, Mike's Orchid Resort, Mike's Garden Resort, Mike's Taxi, Mike's Mexican Restaurant, and a Mike's Car Gallery, all in Pattaya. Oh yeah, by the way, guess who is also here with the favorite color blue. And I did give away the bacon, outer crust and even a few slices to the Soi dogs.
3. "he ate the pizza and lied that he gave it away. That's a scumbag move to cheat a restaurant after paying $2 for two 9 in pizzas. And yes, I call it cheating because he actually ate the pizzas. Then calls himself a smooth criminal! I don't care how much pussy you're getting. If your idea of smooth is to cheat a restaurant out of $2 after eating your fill, you do not sound like a person I'd enjoy company with. My quality of life will literally be better not knowing such people. I don't think there's anything wrong with complaining about the order being incorrect. If he just took a picture of it and, sent a complaint without lying that he threw it out, and they refunded him, I wouldn't have an issue with that. But that's obviously not the case here."
Monkeypaw says: See my responses to #1 and #2. I never did complained to the owner or restaurant for a good reason. The owner is American and drives a truck, I think. He would have never let the order go out like that if he saw it and was there. He reads English. Most of us that know Pattaya, know that when it comes to small businesses, bars, clubs and restaurants. Staff error or mistakes, comes out out of the staff's pay for that day. And its' not the just 65 baht. Slice got paid their entire amount. It's the entire amount because those vouchers are from Food Panda, not Slice. They can be used at any restaurant. And I did get a nice message from Food Panda, a 4 billion dollar company, saying "we do not allow our drivers to check the food. " So once again, how is this Monkeypaw's fault? Oh yeah, because I as hungry ate some and gave some away to the dogs. You do know that the bacon was probably the most expensive thing on there right? And where they loaded on the bacon, they skimmed out on the cheese and tomato sauce, so it wasn't like the tastiest pizza ever. And what cheese was there, some got pulled with the bacon the I fed the dogs.
4. "Just say the pizzas had bacon on them, and I asked for no bacon. I have had my orders messed up before. The wrong order or items missing. I contacted the delivery service, and they immediately issued refunds, either for the whole order, or for items that were missing. And I could keep and eat whatever I may have received. No need to lie about it, like you're trying to get one over on them. Douchebag move!
Monkeypaw says: See #2. And hobbyists trying to judge other on lying and cheating, now that has to be the funniest shit today I've heard.
5. 'My take on this is unlike many of the posters here MP provides some interesting intel if not the location of his finds but at least there are pics so you can gauge the quality of available women for your own hunts. As to his other claims, I call him a unintended comedian, like how hilarious is someone who initially overpays gogo girls by 50-100%, then claims that he can GET these girls due to him having uber game (now he only needs to pay the going rate), how hilarious is someone who after overpaying for women by hundreds of dollars is now a master manipulator because he managed to game some cheap pizzas worth a few bucks, claims to be special and having VIP status due to being in his 30's but still living on daddies dime (though from recent postings daddy may have cut his allowance).
Overall great entertainment so please give him some slack so he con continue his joking. ".
Monkeypaw says: This one, I am going to keep giving enough rope. If I spend a lot (which was actually just the going rate, because there is such a thing as supply and demand, then versus now), complains. If I spend too little, still complains. But I still hold onto this long ass rope just in case. Because Ho Chi Minh City, is actually my stomping yard, not Pattaya or Bangkok. I just don't post in the Vietnam section of ISG too much (definitely not the photos section), because I am too well known in the "underground" scene there. So you might want to hold off a bit, or at least to change your style of writing consisting of run ONS and bad punctuation, because it is too obvious to the Paw. And yes he has shared these secrets to others outside of ISG. And just to confirm, I did check with my dad. And he says he doesn't work as well. Now what?
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553489]I have left Thailand to get vaccinated but will return soon.
Given the closed bars and massage shops, what are my options for fun?[/QUOTE]Eyeglass shops. Grocery stores. Office managers.
The usual places where most of us go to get Hot Free girls.
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Monkey paws reports how much ever dramatic has actionable information the forum members may use. Even mutant chicken who spews scorn in every other post of his provides tips that help newbies. MPs posts are written in a style that is a good read in this forum. Wouldn't be surprised if he is a published writer or columnist.
Wonder what the snow flakes who complain about monkey paws outrageous writing would do if they read the former 'The Departed'(may he never rise again) on a regular basis. I was not around in his peak but have read some of the vile content he wrote. His reports may contain actionable info, but not many would have the stomach to do what he does. This pandemic would have been the departed ideal time as he seems to thrive on people's misery.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553252]Funny the people that criticize have posted no reports or pictures and the people that actually know him have nothing bad to say about him. But I guess that is just how the internet works.[/QUOTE]Funny you sound surprised that people on the internet judge him based on only what he writes ... on the internet. Yes, that is how the internet works.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;2553360]Absolutely agree. Guys need to weed out who is credible and who is not on here. Lots of very active handles on here pretending they know stuff when they haven't even been to Thailand or made a 1 week visit years ago.
There should be a private section on this forum where only members who have met in person can access. Members also need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene (ie. able to write current bar and girl reviews).[/QUOTE]
Honestly, some of you guys have this grandiose sense of self worth. Like you're doing this world a huge favor with your reviews and others have lesser value because they don't contribute as much. Most people here are probably NOT in a position to be posting reports regularly. When I am in a position to, I'll be sharing a LOT. I hobby mostly in the US, so most of my contributions are on another site (HX) where I'm one of the more active members and a moderator.
My pet peeve is when people who ARE mongering don't post info for others to benefit from. It's selfish, as people only take and not give. But it's a different story here. Since this is an "internationalsexguide", most users probably only visit once every year or two. The hope and expectation is that they'll contribute/report once they're able.
But to say something like "Members need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene" to participate seems childish and petty.
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[QUOTE=LooseCannon;2553556]Monkey paws reports how much ever dramatic has actionable information the forum members may use. Even mutant chicken who spews scorn in every other post of his provides tips that help newbies. MPs posts are written in a style that is a good read in this forum. Wouldn't be surprised if he is a published writer or columnist.[/QUOTE]Nobody is questioning the value he provides to this community. This whole pizza debacle is solely on the merits of lying to get a $2 refund.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2553460]"he ate the pizza and lied that he gave it away. That's a scumbag move to cheat a restaurant after paying $2 for two 9 in pizzas. And yes, I call it cheating because he actually ate the pizzas. Then calls himself a smooth criminal! I don't care how much pussy you're getting. If your idea of smooth is to cheat a restaurant out of $2 after eating your fill, you do not sound like a person I'd enjoy company with. My quality of life will literally be better not knowing such people. I don't think there's anything wrong with complaining about the order being incorrect. If he just took a picture of it and, sent a complaint without lying that he threw it out, and they refunded him, I wouldn't have an issue with that. But that's obviously not the case here."
Monkeypaw says: See my responses to #1 and #2. I never did complained to the owner or restaurant for a good reason. The owner is American and drives a truck, I think. He would have never let the order go out like that if he saw it and was there. He reads English. Most of us that know Pattaya, know that when it comes to small businesses, bars, clubs and restaurants. Staff error or mistakes, comes out out of the staff's pay for that day. And its' not the just 65 baht. Slice got paid their entire amount. It's the entire amount because those vouchers are from Food Panda, not Slice. They can be used at any restaurant. And I did get a nice message from Food Panda, a 4 billion dollar company, saying "we do not allow our drivers to check the food. " So once again, how is this Monkeypaw's fault? Oh yeah, because I as hungry ate some and gave some away to the dogs. You do know that the bacon was probably the most expensive thing on there right? And where they loaded on the bacon, they skimmed out on the cheese and tomato sauce, so it wasn't like the tastiest pizza ever. And what cheese was there, some got pulled with the bacon the I fed the dogs.
Monkeypaw says: See #2. And hobbyists trying to judge other on lying and cheating, now that has to be the funniest shit today I've heard.
[/QUOTE]LOL it's amazing how you're going on about how bad the pizza was, barely any cheese and tomato sauce while they loaded on the bacon. Again, not relevant, unless you're saying it was a shitty pizza, so you deserved to get it for free?
Look, I lie and cheat, too. But not when it comes to money. You probably would have achieved the same goal by just saying the order was incorrect. The lie that you "had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon" was probably unnecessary.
I just really don't understand the mentality. I order food where they get it wrong sometimes. If I ordered (e. G. Burger w / o pickles) and they got the order wrong, sure, I could write to the delivery app that my order was wrong and I threw out the burger while enjoying it with a bottle of cold beer. But I'd feel like shit doing it. I'm not saying this to say I'm better than you. I'm just wondering why you'd basically say "no value was provided to me" when clearly, value was provided as you ate the food.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2553617]Nobody is questioning the value he provides to this community. This whole pizza debacle is solely on the merits of lying to get a $2 refund.
LOL it's amazing how you're going on about how bad the pizza was, barely any cheese and tomato sauce while they loaded on the bacon. Again, not relevant, unless you're saying it was a shitty pizza, so you deserved to get it for free?.[/QUOTE]The bigger issue is that it's just a very low winded, boring, and inane story, that fits hand in glove with the thread title, "stupid shit. " Nuff said.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2553609]
But to say something like "Members need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene" to participate seems childish and petty.[/QUOTE]The problem is not members who are now locked out of Thailand but were here before. The problem is members who have not contributed a single info in years (all postings off topic or mere digressions / discussions). These are easy to spot. Others who recycle posts not their own and who answer their own posts under different aliases, are more difficult to spot (except when they go on doing so in threads relating to countries where prostitution and mongering has been in the grip of a hard lockdown for over a year).
Pity there's no referral system. At least I can certify MonkeyPaw is very real and is in Pattaya. If only the membership of the forum consisted only in members as real as he is and with boots as much on the ground as his are !
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Over 2000 new cases today. It doesn't look like the bars will open before June 1.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2553549]Eyeglass shops. Grocery stores. Office managers.
The usual places where most of us go to get Hot Free girls.[/QUOTE]Why are all your posts so USELESS! If you can't provide some real information just keep it to yourself!
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2553400]Weren't you one of those MP singled out as not being disappointed by his presence.
Can you confirm you were in Awe of his Majestic-ness.[/QUOTE]I'm not in awe of any man so no I am not in awe of MP. He is a decent and generous guy though. Not what one might expect from reading his posts.
Which ISG members have you met in Thailand, Danny?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553626]Over 2000 new cases today. It doesn't look like the bars will open before June 1.[/QUOTE]
Thai Health Minister says COVID will be back to "normality" within 2 weeks. Thailand will be getting the Sputnik V vaccinations from Russia.
I can't even make this stuff up if I tried!
[QUOTE=XXL;2553624]These are easy to spot. Others who recycle posts not their own and who answer their own posts under different aliases, are more difficult to spot [/QUOTE]
I can spot them a mile away. Not sure why Admin lets 1 guy with multiple handles in this forum continue to talk to himself and not post any relevant information. This same guy has ruined the Germany FKK forums and is motivated to ruin the Thailand forums. Now the Germany FKK discussion has gone to private boards. Same will happen for Thailand if it hasn't already. #winkface
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2553627]Why are all your posts so USELESS! If you can't provide some real information just keep it to yourself![/QUOTE]Why not go after the guy who asked a non-sensical question.
Where to find Girls. Come on. LOL.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2553627]Why are all your posts so USELESS! If you can't provide some real information just keep it to yourself![/QUOTE]Didn't Mr E find a lovely at a Grocery store.
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Cut Out the Pork
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2553617]Nobody is questioning the value he provides to this community. This whole pizza debacle is solely on the merits of lying to get a $2 refund.
LOL it's amazing how you're going on about how bad the pizza was, barely any cheese and tomato sauce while they loaded on the bacon. Again, not relevant, unless you're saying it was a shitty pizza, so you deserved to get it for free?
Look, I lie and cheat, too. But not when it comes to money. You probably would have achieved the same goal by just saying the order was incorrect. The lie that you "had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon" was probably unnecessary.[/QUOTE]Let's go through this one more time since someone's brain doesn't really function as fast as mine. First you would want to say, "My bad Mr. Paw. I wrote you cheated the restaurant, but instead you corrected me because you cheated the 4 billion dollar food delivery company instead. My mistake. " I would just let you go on and ramble like you did, ignoring that fact, but you really need to own up to your mistakes and miscues. We are adults now. And like the kind soul Monkeypaw is, I accept your apology. Secondly, why do you keep insisting on me lying about giving away the pizza? Because I ate some of the pizza? Pizza had only 4 slices per. It's a 9 inch pizza. If I picked off all the bacon, and some of the cheese got pulled with the bacon, what do you think is left? It was called Bacon Supreme for God's sake. And if I gave that bacon and pulled cheese to the dogs, plus a couple of slices, isn't that having to give away the pizzas? Or dogs do not count in your mind and it's all about humans.
Lastly, you must not understand me and bacon, so Monkeypaw will give you a good lesson on empathy. You are in Vietnam and really fucking hungry. It's dinner time. They eat dogs in the North. It is an acceptable common practice. They have a restaurant that serves pizza. There is a special on the menu called Bow Wow Supreme Pizza. You like the veggies on it, you like the cheese, but not the grilled dog meat. It is the ONLY special of buy 1 get 1 free. You order with Grab with clear instructions, NO DOG MEAT. It gets delivered to you, in a park 50 meters away from the restaurant, with ponds and turtles. But your Bow Wow Supreme Pizzas has everything, including bits and pieces of Fido. See the effort that Monkeypaw had to eat the mistakes of another? One of my superpowers called restraint.
So me being full of empathy AND balance just like a good Buddhist (and yeah I can be Buddhist today and Muslim last week if I want to, plus still not be lying), would let the cook keep their job and not have to pay out of their pocket for a mistake. Plus I am not wasteful. So those turtles in the ponds will get fed. And since I am hungry as fucking from expending all of my energy on that Soi 6 girl, I will nourish myself with whatever is left. I don't know where you got the fact that this was enjoyable. "Done, satisfied, and full" doesn't mean "enjoying it was a cold bottle of beer. " You really need to use the words I write, read them carefully, look them up if needed, and not make or twist words around. Just scroll up and see what exactly I wrote. Satisfied means to "fulfill a need" in the context I used it. Where did you get "enjoyed" from? Hell, Engrish is not my first language, but even I knew that. If you truly are some moderator, then you need to learn better to look at things from every point of view, even the turtles or dogs or pigs as well. It's call being full empathy.
Or.
What I could have done was made it all about me. Yelled at the delivery guy for not checking my order (because it's a silly company policy). Complained to the restaurant and owner. Got the cook in trouble and make he pay for the mistake out of her lowly wage. Complained to the food app delivery company to get my refund. Say fuck those turtles and throw the pizzas away because the bacon repulsed me. But I am who I am. I am the sacrifice ! But just because I am full of empathy doesn't mean I am weak, somebody will have to answer. I chose the 4 billion dollar company and not the turtles, delivery guy, or the cook. And if you think for a second, it was just bacon. Then the grasshopper got lost with the Bow Wow Supreme Pizza lesson in empathy. Take a stand. I know I have, when it comes to pork. I wouldn't let them give that shit to another human unless they were starving like the dogs. Take it from sensai. This is the way, I have spoken. - The Mandalorian (2019).
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Who Shot the Sheriff?
[QUOTE=Allover;2553241]Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal? What about Robin Hood?
The Paw has been called names here before but I'm guessing this is the first time he has been compared to a ghetto crack working girl. Bet he laughed his ass off with that one. But Robin Hood may be more fitting. He is one of few Pattaya posters talking about girls and posting pictures as well. He talks about relevant non-monger activities as well IE ATMs. And remember his donations of time and gifts to local orphanages. I have a tremendous respect for that. As to his remarks that many find off the wall, you have to take the bad with the good. Just like you have to take Robin Hood who did bad things to help the good people. And don't forget the ignore button if you so choose.[/QUOTE]The Sheriff of Nottingham is unable to see himself as the villain. Just like the many others in real life. They really can't see it or believe that perhaps it's been them all along. I always wondered how the orcs viewed the elves. Or what's going inside their minds about what they actually are in the storyline. And when the hero comes along, you can bet not everyone will embrace the second coming.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2553631]Why not go after the guy who asked a non-sensical question.[/QUOTE]If he has 274 posts usually written in code without any reviews then I will.
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2553633]Didn't Mr E find a lovely at a Grocery store.[/QUOTE]
Likely since he's an expat but to tell guys on here that's where they should look for girls supports my comment that your posts are a total waste of time as they do not help the tourist who was seeking advice.
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KISS = Keep It Short Stupid
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2553746]The Sheriff of Nottingham is unable to see himself as the villain. Just like the many others in real life. They really can't see it or believe that perhaps it's been them all along. I always wondered how the orcs viewed the elves. Or what's going inside their minds about what they actually are in the storyline. And when the hero comes along, you can bet not everyone will embrace the second coming.[/QUOTE]Am I the villain for calling you out about lying to get $2? Ok then, I'll be your Sheriff of Nottingham =) It's funny you speak of introspect. Maybe it's just your alter ego. One of you seems clueless.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2553741]Let's go through this one more time since someone's brain doesn't really function as fast as mine. First you would want to say, "My bad Mr. Paw. I wrote you cheated the restaurant, but instead you corrected me because you cheated the 4 billion dollar food delivery company instead. My mistake. " I would just let you go on and ramble like you did, ignoring that fact, but you really need to own up to your mistakes and miscues. We are adults now. And like the kind soul Monkeypaw is, I accept your apology. Secondly, why do you keep insisting on me lying about giving away the pizza? Because I ate some of the pizza? Pizza had only 4 slices per. It's a 9 inch pizza. If I picked off all the bacon, and some of the cheese got pulled with the bacon, what do you think is left? It was called Bacon Supreme for God's sake. And if I gave that bacon and pulled cheese to the dogs, plus a couple of slices, isn't that having to give away the pizzas? Or dogs do not count in your mind and it's all about humans.
Lastly, you must not understand me and bacon, so Monkeypaw will give you a good lesson on empathy. You are in Vietnam and really fucking hungry. It's dinner time. They eat dogs in the North. It is an acceptable common practice. They have a restaurant that serves pizza. There is a special on the menu called Bow Wow Supreme Pizza. You like the veggies on it, you like the cheese, but not the grilled dog meat. It is the ONLY special of buy 1 get 1 free. You order with Grab with clear instructions, NO DOG MEAT. It gets delivered to you, in a park 50 meters away from the restaurant, with ponds and turtles. But your Bow Wow Supreme Pizzas has everything, including bits and pieces of Fido. See the effort that Monkeypaw had to eat the mistakes of another? One of my superpowers called restraint.
So me being full of empathy AND balance just like a good Buddhist (and yeah I can be Buddhist today and Muslim last week if I want to, plus still not be lying), would let the cook keep their job and not have to pay out of their pocket for a mistake. Plus I am not wasteful. So those turtles in the ponds will get fed. And since I am hungry as fucking from expending all of my energy on that Soi 6 girl, I will nourish myself with whatever is left. I don't know where you got the fact that this was enjoyable. "Done, satisfied, and full" doesn't mean "enjoying it was a cold bottle of beer. " You really need to use the words I write, read them carefully, look them up if needed, and not make or twist words around. Just scroll up and see what exactly I wrote. Satisfied means to "fulfill a need" in the context I used it. Where did you get "enjoyed" from? Hell, Engrish is not my first language, but even I knew that. If you truly are some moderator, then you need to learn better to look at things from every point of view, even the turtles or dogs or pigs as well. It's call being full empathy.
Or.
What I could have done was made it all about me. Yelled at the delivery guy for not checking my order (because it's a silly company policy). Complained to the restaurant and owner. Got the cook in trouble and make he pay for the mistake out of her lowly wage. Complained to the food app delivery company to get my refund. Say fuck those turtles and throw the pizzas away because the bacon repulsed me. But I am who I am. I am the sacrifice ! But just because I am full of empathy doesn't mean I am weak, somebody will have to answer. I chose the 4 billion dollar company and not the turtles, delivery guy, or the cook. And if you think for a second, it was just bacon. Then the grasshopper got lost with the Bow Wow Supreme Pizza lesson in empathy. Take a stand. I know I have, when it comes to pork. I wouldn't let them give that shit to another human unless they were starving like the dogs. Take it from sensai. This is the way, I have spoken. - The Mandalorian (2019).[/QUOTE]You sure write a lot to defend yourself. Maybe narcissism? I don't really care. A lot of people here agree lying that you "gave away the pizza" to get your $2 refund is a shitty thing to do. You can keep arguing til you're blue in the gills. I'll stop responding, because this has taken more of my time and energy than I really care to expend on you or this topic. And we can say you won. =).
BTW, your teasing of people's speach, nit picking on details just makes you look foolish, petty and small. You use stupid arguments like. Well, I did throw away the most expensive part of the pizza, or I did give it to the dogs, and hey, I can be Muslim! Narcissistic and petty. It's even funnier when you say that I said "enjoying it was a cold bottle of beer". WAS? Can YOU read? That statement I said wasn't in quotes. It was to make a point. If you really took that literally, you should get your brain checked.
But who knows, maybe your non-alter ego is fun and MP is just narcissistic and petty?
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Capital One 360
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2553033]Agree that ATM default options for the Thai bank to determine exchange rate is a rip off. Recently we had good discussion on better way to use Thai ATM, the winner seemed to be getting a Fidelity or Charles Schwab card where they give good exchange rate and refund all fees on both ends... SNIP.[/QUOTE]Remember a couple of years ago, when we met up at Hong Kong Club in Tijuana? That was my first time in Tijuana (not Mexico bc I used to sneak into Nuevo Laredo when I was colleging in Texas). But although Tijuana had a seedy underground vibe to it, the hustle and game I felt was nothing compared to Thailand and Pattaya. And here in Pattaya it's everywhere and all kinds of businesses, even banks. Some do this, some don't, even though it's the same corporate name on the bank.
Anyways, I do recommend Capital One 360 account. 0% international fees or charges on ATM withdrawal, plus refund USA ATMs, and the exchange is whatever the normal rate for that day is. You will only pay the ATM fee for the bank 200 baht. But of course you cannot ever select the rate offered by the local Thai bank. Also with Capital One 360, you can easily link to Zelle, Venmo, Chime, or at other banks or money transfer services. Also of note, if you use your card and withdraw from the teller in Thailand, no fee at all. Some banks will pay stupid, want to scam 200 baht, and point at the ATM machine, others will do it. Research this. It's a real thing.
I almost feel bad for them for legally stealing $88,000, but they are a bank. And my war with big businesses, corporations, and governments continue. They did try to sue, but had to dismiss my case as "non suit," when they realize Monkeypaw was so much smarter and well connected. No lawyer needed. Just a quick email to their attorney that it was the Paw they are dealing with. The other banks that I have fleeced like Chase, BOA, AmEx, Barclay for over $250 K, didn't even bother. That's the great thing about banks, fiat and the Lone Star State (protection), they know when to hold them, fold them, and walk away because they can just print more. Money created from debt, backed up by debt is as scary as it gets.
And the amazing thing is in 3 more years, my FICO will be back at 800 to do it all over again. By the way, after all of this, I still have their 360 debit card to use all around the world. Monkeypaw taught this Kung Fu to a white buddy of mine in Pearland and now he is happily retired in his little oyster in China at 36 years old. His only mistake was getting married to karaoke girl and now has a kid. What a rookie! Same game the elites play with money and debt.
P.S. : All on these pics, all identifying information has been removed. But you get the gist that Monkeypaw isn't playing around. That Robin Hood shit is real with me.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553626]Over 2000 new cases today. It doesn't look like the bars will open before June 1.[/QUOTE]2839 Cases today and going up fast. No way bars open before June 1 now. Even July 1 looks optimistic.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2553879]Am I the villain for calling you out about lying to get $2? Ok then, I'll be your Sheriff of Nottingham =) It's funny you speak of introspect. Maybe it's just your alter ego. One of you seems clueless.
You sure write a lot to defend yourself. Maybe narcissism? I don't really care. A lot of people here agree lying that you "gave away the pizza" to get your $2 refund is a shitty thing to do. You can keep arguing til you're blue in the gills. I'll stop responding, because this has taken more of my time and energy than I really care to expend on you or this topic. And we can say you won. =).
BTW, your teasing of people's speach, nit picking on details just makes you look foolish, petty and small. You use stupid arguments like. Well, I did throw away the most expensive part of the pizza, or I did give it to the dogs, and hey, I can be Muslim! Narcissistic and petty. It's even funnier when you say that I said "enjoying it was a cold bottle of beer". WAS? Can YOU read? That statement I said wasn't in quotes. It was to make a point. If you really took that literally, you should get your brain checked.
But who knows, maybe your non-alter ego is fun and MP is just narcissistic and petty?[/QUOTE]Order order gentlemen I say I say, members of this venerable forum have to stop impugning my good friend the right honorable MP for Pattaya. It's not his fault he is a privileged young man of tender age. While some may find his posts written in the third person a tad irritating I find his regaling us with imaginative tales of his life in the orient quite amusing. Why should the lad bother you, he didn't kill anyone he's just trying to have some fun.
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Out of all the suggested and created Thread this is got to be the most useful! I'm learning a lot!
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2553908]Remember a couple of years ago, when we met up at Hong Kong Club in Tijuana? That was my first time in Tijuana (not Mexico bc I used to sneak into Nuevo Laredo when I was colleging in Texas). But although Tijuana had a seedy underground vibe to it, the hustle and game I felt was nothing compared to Thailand and Pattaya. And here in Pattaya it's everywhere and all kinds of businesses, even banks. Some do this, some don't, even though it's the same corporate name on the bank.[/QUOTE]That Capital One 360 seems like a good alternative, I'll look into it for a backup to my Fidelity card.
Sure, I remember those days. Good time. I have to admit that happened at a time when various posters had questioned your existence and I wasn't sure you would actually show up! We must have looked like the odd couple, you being you and me being me. Two very different people spending hours chatting. Both of us were disappointed in the selection of girls, I think we both prefer cute spinners and that is a Tijuana resource that was in scarce supply.
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Mercy Yet?
10 years coming to Thailand and I've only met 1 pure Thai (not mixed) girl that ate Indian food. I've actually never eaten Indian food, until I discovered garlic butter naan and mango lassi, back in 2011 on my very first trip to Bangkok. Recently, when I got done with a 1500 baht Go Go girl I found online, I got a chance to chow down. And when I say Go Go quality, it's always more than she works at a Go Go bar. For those who think this is me cheaping out, you have to do the math. Before the going rate was 3000ST for 2 hours, plus bar fine, and drinks and hassle. So 1 hour 1500ST is pretty much the standard when there isn't all the entertainment and hustling involved. Or maybe, I am cheaping out. All it took was an offer and a counter offer like Mr. E said. It may have taken her a month to rethink her pricing, but the pussy I'm sure didn't get any looser between then and now. Times are tough, with Celsius being closed and all. When this spinner was done spinning on my dick, I was hungry and asked her if she was too. She jumped at the offer thinking she caught a new sugar daddy sucker. All I had on my mind was I needed to spend an extra 60 baht to use their 60 baht off coupon for picking up and not delivery. So essentially, her food would be free and I would have finally found another Thai girl willing to eat Indian food (BTW I do this like only 3 times a year just like a clean waxed ass).
But Monkeypaw you ask, is there such a thing as 60 baht Indian food? No not really. But after being here so long, I've figured out, I might be the Land of a Million Stupid Egos. Something weird about some of these Thais. They do not actively seek help from foreigners when they are clueless. How many business signs you see here in Pattaya with misspellings so bad? Even at Big (C) on Pattaya Klang, there is signage like "Cooking Oiel" all jacked up and big like an unsightly accidental hard on. The horrible spellings are everywhere in Pattaya as if I am in some made up illiterate fantasy world. It's okay to make errors. But when there are plenty of Westerners here who can spellcheck for you, before you spend a bunch of money on a huge business sign, you may want to ask for their help. Maybe it's just me, nit picking, but who knows what goes on in the minds of some of these locals. Wonder if it is saving face by not asking for help, or maybe some ego at work.
Anyways, so these food apps will often have glitches that if the owner is not fluent in English or tech savvy, he or she or they, will get fucked over with no gel. And if it is Monkeypaw doing it, you'd better believe I will be using those condoms with the miniature silicone spikes. They are lucky that perhaps only the Paw is able to spot them out. Oh well, like I said. It's all about hidden gems and treasure hunting. If there isn't a pot of gold at the end of your rainbow, if you can even find the end, then you might want to check your connection with God. I am no Indian food expert, but if you are, is this shit a bargain or what?
Two set meals with each set consisting of:
1. 1 large vegetable samosa (just me or with ketchup this is yummier).
2. 1 chicken biryani (traded her for her samosa).
3. 1 cup of raita.
4. 1 dal makhni.
5. 2 pieces of naan or roti (your choice).
6. 2 gulab jamun.
All for, ready for this? 158 baht for both, minus 32 baht (20% off) for pick up, and another 60 baht off for the double whammy glitch. So the total was ONLY 67 baht for both sets and no tip because we were picking up to go. Yes about $2 bucks for 2 meals from an Indian restaurant. Clap clap. Whomever set up the app messed up. The pricing of 79 baht wasn't for the set. Go look at the other sets' pricing. They all range from 179-279 baht. The owner set the wrong price and Monkeypaw made his ass pay dearly. When I arrived, the little old Indian lady working asked the girl why was this so cheap. The Thai girl looked confused and only pointed at me. I asked if she was the owner and she said "no. " The little old lady was just a cook because they had not many customers, so not a lot of staff was needed. The owner was out of the country. Maybe, I'll let the owner try to figure it out on their own. Monkeypaw hasn't decided if he will just let stupid be stupid, or not. I really don't eat Indian food but once in a "blue moon. " If we were in the Roman colosseum, and this was an injured gladiator on the ground submitting to the Paw, thumbs up or thumbs down? Cheap Charlie, Smart and Savvy, or Smooth Criminal? Mercy, mercy, me.
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I definitely would not recommend going to Thailand unless you are vaccinated. I am vaccinated and so I am going. Bars will be closed for a long time. That means I may have to look for ladies working on the street. I am not too excited about bringing strangers to my condo, so I will be using short time hotels, which I have never done.
The good news is that Pattaya will be dead, and the few Farangs that have hung in there for the last year are mostly luvved up with a Thai lady and don't do so much mongering these days. Bad for the ladies, good for me. I will be happy to save some ladies from starvation.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2553920]2839 Cases today and going up fast. No way bars open before June 1 now. Even July 1 looks optimistic.[/QUOTE]Yep, Thailand had control of the virus for a year and now seems to be losing it. My October trip is in jeopardy. Maybe my February trip too. I sure hope the Thai people re-up their masks and social distancing and get things safe again. Thailand does not have enough physicians to handle USA levels of infection.
Thailand vaccine rollout is very slow, just now doing hospital workers who have direct patient contact. I'm not sure if the well publicized Phuket sandbox vaccinations have actually started. They needed 70% of Phuket residents vaccinated by July to open the Phuket sandbox. I don't know the status of the Thai manufacture of the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
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Corona Virus Surge / Vaccine Roll Out
There are calls to lock down everything soon. Up until 2 days ago the cases were around 1500 per day, which is manageable at a stretch, was forecast to have 7 days capacity into future at any one time. Thailand has a policy that anyone that tests positive gets put in a hospital, Hospital (special hotel leased by government) or field hospital. This policy is aimed at quarantine as well as mentoring the individuals health. Once cases hit 2839 Saturday and 2438 Sunday this system will be over capacity in a few days. The system is already starting to have issues with a small number of people not being available to find a hospital and dying, probably unnecessarily at home or admitted to late.
They are going to have to lockdown or change the way they handle cases. The health system is good in Thailand, particularly if you have money, not so much if you do not have $. There is not the surge capacity of a western country though.
The vaccine rollut has just started. About a million people have been jabbed. Apparently 6 million locally produced Astra Zeneca shots will be available in June, but every country has missed their official start date so maybe July? There should be enough shots to vaccinate everybody by years end. Thailand needs 100 million shots for an estimate 50 million people that will get jabbed (the total population 70 million. Not everyone will get jabbed). Half shots will be from Astra Zeneca, 1/4 by sinovac, the rest by sputnik & Pfizer. The Pfizer vaccine apparently will be administered by private Hospitals at 2000 to 3000 Baht per shot. Only HiSo locals and expats with cash will be able to afford or have access to that. The sinovac will probably be replaced by extra Astra Zeneca. Sinovac has major issues with efficacy and while better than nothing isn't anywhere nearly as good as the others.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2554018]Foxy bar Soi 6 . Girl name nice. Very acceptable.
You tube.
You will be happy man. LOL.[/QUOTE]Really? Never seen 4 more depressed girls on a cam in my life. Not a single one can muster a smile.
Here's the link that Dongy Dick doesn't know how to post.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHB4drGMLo&t=38s[/URL]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554133]Really? Never seen 4 more depressed girls on a cam in my life. Not a single one can muster a smile.
Here's the link that Dongy Dick doesn't know how to post.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHB4drGMLo&t=38s[/URL][/QUOTE]Orangutan man would be impressed.
1. NICE is just nice.
2. Ploy is Ok. Little less heft would do her good.
3. ARM very Ok. I like face.
No Silicone on all 3. Lighter skin.
Nice could be a solid 8 with a few tweaks here and there.
I was up to Supporting the Girls as they refer to it.
Problem is so many Hoops they make you jump through. Sign up Nightwish first. No go right there.
I want McDonald's, all I do is get on order page and pay.
No need to sign up with McDonald's first.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554133]Really? Never seen 4 more depressed girls on a cam in my life. Not a single one can muster a smile.
Here's the link that Dongy Dick doesn't know how to post.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHB4drGMLo&t=38s[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link Banana Boi. Each time I read people talking about these bars doing live cam and getting drinks out of some customers I didn't bother trying to find these videos.
Now I'm very impressed that some people were scared that this business model would take the girls out of the bars.
This was dog shit, I couldn't look for more than ten seconds.
People who thinks that this garbage would destroy the pre covid Pattaya did never put a foot in Thailand surely.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2554208]Thanks for the link Banana Boi. Each time I read people talking about these bars doing live cam and getting drinks out of some customers I didn't bother trying to find these videos.
Now I'm very impressed that some people were scared that this business model would take the girls out of the bars.
This was dog shit, I couldn't look for more than ten seconds.
People who thinks that this garbage would destroy the pre covid Pattaya did never put a foot in Thailand surely.[/QUOTE]Yes it was as you put it dog shit, but.
1. Things could improve in the future.
2. As much dog shit it was, someone like Duckman was enticed to buy drinks. Someone who claimed to have been to Pattaya, imagine the 100,000's of those men who have never been.
3. It only takes 1/2 or 1/3 of the better lookers to go online and it will be a dramatic effect on the scene.
4. No need to look past onlyfans / twitch where legions of socially awkward incels allow skimpily clad women to make incomes that allow them to retire after a few years. There are guys who are seasoned mongers who have admitted to paying 20-30 dollars for naked pics and clips. Imagine those who have never been, and what they would be willing to pay for.
There were business who scoffed at Amazon when it was a online bookstore now.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551648]Try this one on the same free movie website I gave you for the last one. It is also streaming on Netflix a well. I'm not even Korean, but I dig the originality of their flicks. Sometimes very unpredictable. But did you notice that the one filmed in Bangkok wasn't at Nana, Patpong, or Soi Cowboy? They filmed it across from Radisson Blu while I was staying there. If you look very closely, somebody made a guest appearance for a second or two. Funny thing about the movie as well is the Koreans total disrespect for the Thais. They filmed the Thais using dark skinned actors and using trashy and dirty areas of Bangkok. There is an emphasis on not trusting those Thais, because they are always scamming, even other gangsters. (Don't want to ruin the plot for others). LOL.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sm6_FK51VA[/URL]
Night in Paradise (2020).[/QUOTE]I didn't know Night in Paradise, I just watched it and it was not bad but not the best either. If you like this kind of story there was "a bittersweet life" and " dirty carnival" that were a lot better I believe.
I didn't recognize where they filmed the first movie even though I've stayed multiple times on soi 20, actually I thought that they went to film in Pattaya for the red light district and made it look like soi Cow boy.
Yes Thailand seems to be associated with a dangerous place in some of the stories, there was also the movie "always" where the guy has to make a dangerous trip in Thailand. That movie is great but the first part is very romantic while the action starts on the second part.
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The Blame Circle
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2553879]Am I the villain for calling you out about lying to get $2? Ok then, I'll be your Sheriff of Nottingham =) It's funny you speak of introspect. Maybe it's just your alter ego. One of you seems clueless.
You sure write a lot to defend yourself. Maybe narcissism? I don't really care. A lot of people here agree lying that you "gave away the pizza" to get your $2 refund is a shitty thing to do. You can keep arguing til you're blue in the gills. I'll stop responding, because this has taken more of my time and energy than I really care to expend on you or this topic. And we can say you won. =).
BTW, your teasing of people's speach, nit picking on details just makes you look foolish, petty and small. You use stupid arguments like. Well, I did throw away the most expensive part of the pizza, or I did give it to the dogs, and hey, I can be Muslim! Narcissistic and petty. It's even funnier when you say that I said "enjoying it was a cold bottle of beer". WAS? Can YOU read? That statement I said wasn't in quotes. It was to make a point. If you really took that literally, you should get your brain checked.
But who knows, maybe your non-alter ego is fun and MP is just narcissistic and petty?[/QUOTE]OMG. Even though all my words were quoted, the guy really can't see it. There was only an explanation in my reasoning to why I did what I did, an empathy metaphor with dog meat, clarification of words and terms, and lastly playing the devil's advocate against myself. No anger in my choice of words and no name calling, unless one considers the word "somebody" and "adult" as an insult. I asked questions. You deflected and dodged questions as if they had rabies. You immediately jumped to the conclusion to name yourself the villain, as the Sheriff, in my conversation with another member. How funny is that. It's like a subway full of people, two people are talking about an "idiot" And then some random person over hears, gets upset, angry, and answers back. There is a saying, that if it doesn't pertain to you, then ignore it. You then to call me words like clueless, foolish, petty, small, narcissistic, accuse me of arguing, and suggest a check on my brain. Not sure what even is that or how do you check your brain? Maybe all your bitterness towards me caused a singe tear jerk from my left eye, or maybe it's just allergies. But let's move on.
Anger is okay by itself. Self righteousness by itself is okay as well. But anger + self righteousness combined together, and easily visible to others, from looking at your choice of words, then you have some inner demons you need to get rid of. Lord forbid somebody Googles, "self-righteousness anger "and what out means. This is the advantage that I have working in a psych ward or maybe I was patient? Can't remember. Monkeypaw was not the one who told others "I am a moderator" on another site and then try tell another person "what is a lie and what isn't" or "who can be which religion or not" or referred to another person by typing the word "YOU" in all caps. And why do I spend that much time clarifying myself? Because it's my job to battle for your soul (good or bad or getting better or getting worse). Hopefully you can see the errors of your thinking, and readjust your mind and spirit. It's more like watching a (B) movie horror flick, and yelling at the big titty blonde, over and over, not to hide in creepy looking barn, thinking that she can hear me. This is hardly arguing and Monkeypaw is never angry. Why should I be? Look where I am at for the end of the world. I can easily look back at my life, know exactly where I am headed. And can tell you 100%, I've already won.
P.S. This is what you are trying to do when you come onto a "Sex Mongering" forum, point the finger, claim the "moderator" card, and write something like this "I don't really care. A lot of people here agree lying that you "gave away the pizza" to get your $2 refund is a shitty thing to do". Like I said, your anger really shows. Hey, but lucky for you, there is still time. You can always sign up for a new account and screen name. And all is forgiven.
- This is the Way. I have spoken. (The Mandalorian 2019).
The Blame Circle [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iLGG-g8kdBQ[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Allover;2553241]Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal? What about Robin Hood?
The Paw has been called names here before but I'm guessing this is the first time he has been compared to a ghetto crack working girl. Bet he laughed his ass off with that one. But Robin Hood may be more fitting. He is one of few Pattaya posters talking about girls and posting pictures as well. He talks about relevant non-monger activities as well IE ATMs. And remember his donations of time and gifts to local orphanages. I have a tremendous respect for that. As to his remarks that many find off the wall, you have to take the bad with the good. Just like you have to take Robin Hood who did bad things to help the good people. And don't forget the ignore button if you so choose.[/QUOTE]LOL thank you for this. First time ever using this feature, but I have a feeling my quality of life has just improved.
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[QUOTE=Eequalsmc2;2554383]someone like Duckman was enticed to buy drinks. Someone who claimed to have been to Pattaya, [/QUOTE]The key word is "claimed" for Danny Duck.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554903]The key word is "claimed" for Danny Duck.[/QUOTE]No, you aren't saying what I think you are saying? Not the cousin of Donald Duck? I thought this guy was the real deal who else is doing this?
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Sorry MP
MP, I don't like your posts either. You appear to be on a self promotion tragectory. This forum is not about you and your 'self proclaimed' exploits, it's about providing genuine advice to Mongers and discussion of our hobby. Not just how good you are or think you are. Give over!
Johnie (not a skite or opinionated member, but an equal who shares and appreciates genuine advice and comments not solely about ones self).
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What waste of bandwidth. Why do you guys diss the Paw? Great writer, great sense of humour, great familiarity with what he writes about.
Dudes this is the internet, smoke a bowl and chill.
For you guys in BKK, see ya in a few months. As soon as the hotel buffets open me and Eatigo are back.
Hey Paw, got any fun experiences with Hotel Buffets, LOL?
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Tops (Kong Hanumarn)
Staying here this long (14 months or so now) in Thailand, Monkeypaw gets bored. So I often find ways to occupy myself. I've said it over and over again, I don't come from money, but actually lots of power. And where is this power found? It's always in the mind, not so much in the wallet (but a little cash does help). If you've seen the Matrix, Monkeypaw is like Neo. It's as if I awoken again and again, whenever I find these little gems and glitches in life. Call it lucky, call it smart, or just call it Monkeypaw being guided by a force much greater than anything humans may even really know. Thank God that force is good. So my favorite store to shop for food and get it delivered is near Jomtien at Tops Daily (Kong Hanumarn), near the Immigration office.
Monkeypaw's shopping list for just 154 baht or less than $5:
2 Bottles Coke No Sugar 1.95 L.
1 Farmhouse Bread 1/2 loaf.
1 Arigato Bread 1/2 loaf.
1 Arigato Wheat Bread 1/2 loaf.
1 Shoestring French Frozen French Fries 500 g.
2 Bags Sunbites Chips 56 g.
2 Canned Sweet Corn 340 g.
1 Bag Uncooked Japanese Rice 2 Kg.
2 Cans Mackerel in Tomato Sauce 155 g.
1 Onion 200 g.
3 Bananas.
1 Steamed Jasmine Rice (ready to eat) 150 g.
1 Bottle Ketchup 300 g.
1 Pack Strawberry Yogurt (4 ct) 135 g.
1 Package Uncooked Pasta Spirals 500 g.
1 Dozen Eggs Large No. 2.
2 Cans Tuna Steak 185 g.
2 Packs Shrimp Meatballs 100 g.
1 Bottle UV Protect Whitening Lotion 250 g.
2 Cans Peas 425 g.
3 Packs Crunchy Breaded Fish Fillets 300 g.
1 Can Prego Spaghetti Sauce 340 g.
But you got to play the game right. When I was a kid, playing hooky from kindergarten, I was at an arcade and figured out how to get free games on the machines with a paper clip. At the same arcade, there was a small vending machine that had malfunctioned and was spitting out 3 selections: Snickers, Coca Cola, and Lays Chips. All without having to pay anything. There was only a few available selections though. The biggest mistake of my 5 year old life was to tell my older sister and her friends of my discovery, who then raided the machine until nothing but Cornuts and TAB were left. The manager of the arcade caught on and when I went back, his beady creepy eyes were all over me, and the vending machine was fixed.
For almost 8 months now, I've pretty found a way to get almost free groceries from this store and many others. Do I want to share my secret? No, not really. I learned my lesson with the vending machine and the arcade. Get all your fill, then some more, and then let them perhaps figure it out on their own, that all of our connections to the force are not the same. But there is nothing wrong with this Jedi giving you a hint for two. And the Paw always leaves enough clues if you read carefully and understand some of the code in the writing or pics. Some will get it, others will be baffled. Some will get upset, while others will cheer. It's all about how much of that noggin is available for use. And no, I don't feel guilty when it comes to beating the system. Cheap Charlie, Smart and Savvy, or Smooth Criminal?
P.S. : By the way, a quick Google search of "Kong Hanumarn" and you get "Monkeypaw. " Wow, just wow.
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[QUOTE=Johnie;2554961]This forum is not about you and your 'self proclaimed' exploits, it's about providing genuine advice to Mongers and discussion of our hobby. Not just how good you are or think you are. Give over![/QUOTE]I believe this particular thread was started to throw MP's posts in one place. It became inactive for a while and regained traction when it became the COVID thread. It's called a "stupid shit" thread so unless you want to read "stupid shit" you likely should avoid this thread.
MP is one of the VERY few guys who is actually in Pattaya.
Your post was accurate for this thread though since it's a "rant".
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555153]I believe this particular thread was started to throw MP's posts in one place. It became inactive for a while and regained traction when it became the COVID thread. It's called a "stupid shit" thread so unless you want to read "stupid shit" you likely should avoid this thread.
MP is one of the VERY few guys who is actually in Pattaya.
Your post was accurate for this thread though since it's a "rant".[/QUOTE]There are at least three other counties on ISG with "stupid shit" forums. It's where admin puts those type of posts to keep the main forum less polluted and a better reading experience for the averge john.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2555164]There are at least three other counties on ISG with "stupid shit" forums. It's where admin puts those type of posts to keep the main forum less polluted and a better reading experience for the averge john.[/QUOTE]Yes I know. Which thread was created first?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555357]Yes I know. Which thread was created first?[/QUOTE]Yeah my recollection is Thailand so MP may well have inspired the concept. It has become useful on the other forums as well especially during covid.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2555382]Yeah my recollection is Thailand so MP may well have inspired the concept. It has become useful on the other forums as well especially during covid.[/QUOTE]I don't know the formal connection between this forum and USASexGuide.NL, but they are virtually identical with that forum addressing only USA. That forum has many older but similar threads with slightly different titles such as "Rants and Raves" and "Fights". The thread placement in Thailand may have been inspired by MP, but the thread concept is much older.
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I read one of the big reasons Thailand went back to 14 day quarantine is because of backroom deals with the hotels that do asq. Article said those hotels like the guaranteed money.
It seems crazy to me to do this to vaccinated travelers. If phuket could open with no quarantine maybe open it now with the seven day quarantine.
My plan for after the vaccine was either travel for work, Thailand or Brazil. Work is dependent on finding it and Brazil kind of scares me even with vaccine.
Where's a cheap good place I can go?
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2555571]I read one of the big reasons Thailand went back to 14 day quarantine is because of backroom deals with the hotels that do asq. Article said those hotels like the guaranteed money.
It seems crazy to me to do this to vaccinated travelers. If phuket could open with no quarantine maybe open it now with the seven day quarantine.
My plan for after the vaccine was either travel for work, Thailand or Brazil. Work is dependent on finding it and Brazil kind of scares me even with vaccine.
Where's a cheap good place I can go?[/QUOTE]My plan is similar to yours. But with PTO, not traveling for work as that's restricted. I feel the same way about Brazil. But Natty's been an inspiration and I'm hoping to visit either late May or early June depending on covid trends. Then another trip to Thailand in Oct / Nov if they remove quarantine restrictions.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555417]Right now, all quarantine is 14 days.[/QUOTE]
With their numbers growing there's actually an outside chance that Thailand closes its borders altogether to everyone, vaccinated or not, quarantine or not.
The recent increases from 7 to 10 to 14 days quarantine is an indication borders may be reclosed.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2555571]I read one of the big reasons Thailand went back to 14 day quarantine is because of backroom deals with the hotels that do asq. Article said those hotels like the guaranteed money.
It seems crazy to me to do this to vaccinated travelers. If phuket could open with no quarantine maybe open it now with the seven day quarantine.
My plan for after the vaccine was either travel for work, Thailand or Brazil. Work is dependent on finding it and Brazil kind of scares me even with vaccine.
Where's a cheap good place I can go?[/QUOTE]Those ASQ hotels are going to lose a lot of money from the 14 day quarantine, because nobody is going to come.
The real reason for the 14 day quarantine is they found a vaccinated person carrying the Indian double mutant virus on Day 6 of their 7 day quarantine.
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5 Stars Means Free Breakfast
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2554984]What waste of bandwidth. Why do you guys diss the Paw? Great writer, great sense of humour, great familiarity with what he writes about.
Dudes this is the internet, smoke a bowl and chill.
For you guys in BKK, see ya in a few months. As soon as the hotel buffets open me and Eatigo are back.
Hey Paw, got any fun experiences with Hotel Buffets, LOL?[/QUOTE]Radisson Blue on Sukhumvit for BKK. Skip paying for breakfast buffet to be the included in your room. Avoid the set of main elevators that lead to the hotel rooms. Those require cards except for the restaurant and buffet floor. The lobby has a small bar and coffee lounge open for everybody, guests or not, just like restaurant. Go down to the lobby and use the single elevator that is parallel to Sukhumvit (walk in entrance), next to the glass stall that sells cookies and cakes. This single elevator only goes to the restaurant and the stairway. It is always unmanned. The hostess desk for the restaurant is way on the other side by the other main set of elevators about 90 meters away. There is always somebody there that checks guests in. Dinner time, she seats them. Breakfast time, she doesn't. The key is to come an hour or two before the breakfast buffet ends, when it is a bit chaotic. It's a 5 star restaurant, so there will be plenty of food left. When you exit the elevator and get to the buffet dining area, go straight the buffet lines and look at the food. If you get caught, which I never have, say that you are only looking at the options to see what they have before deciding if you want to eat. Don't panic or get flustered, that will give you away. You can always say, you don't like what you see and go back down using the other set of elevators. They think you are going back up to your room. If you don't stay there, act like you do. Remember, these are very low waged workers, not so bright, so more than likely, they are deathly afraid of the "5 star hotel guest."
If you manage to sit down with your first plate, unchecked. Then it's pretty much game over for them. I would always make myself more visible, once the hard part was done sneaking in. I would ask the bussers, where certain items where on the buffet (it's huge and many many stations), complement the cooks, and leave a small 20 baht tip as well. On the way out, use the main set of elevators, and walk by the hostess and "thank her." By making yourself familiar and kind, the next day, nobody would even question you about anything when they see you again.
Also, floor 21 has Club and Lounge access which if you stay there on any floor, your card will be able to reach that floor, but not be able enter the lounge glass doors unless it was programmed to. There are some nice chairs sitting outside the glass doors and near the elevators. Right next to the lounge entrance glass doors is the mens bathroom. This is a positional advantage. On a typical busy weekend PRE-COVID, I can just wait about 5 minutes (in the afternoon) and I will hear the elevator ding. Somebody is coming up to the lounge, which means free sandwiches and juice for somebody else. Yum! Quick dash in the bathroom. Wait and listen for the door to beep. Pretend like you are headed out and back into the lounge. Amazingly, they will also hold that door for you as well. And when you are enjoying your goodies, think of the Paw.
P.S. In Pattaya, use the Beach Road doors for LK Empress Breakfast buffet, not the one connected to the hotel itself in the middle. Just walk in and straight to the buffet line. Check in is way in the other side for hotel guests, but their mistake is they allow for walk in non-guests for 200 baht, plus have patio seating on Beach Road for everybody. How the heck they know who is who is anyone's guess. If you get caught, which I never have, say you are a guest and they will ask you to check in way on the other side at the other entrance. Then just walk to the bathroom in between to the left side, take a piss, wash your hands, and wait a minute and try all over again. Worse case scenario, say you want to see what's on the buffet before deciding. This one is as good as found money. Don't forget tip to make an impression of "no way he's scamming because he has money to tip, when most don't."
And for Avani (former Marriot), use the Dicey Reilly stairs to access the patio or the Beach Road entrance next to Benihhana (Avanai garden) or Royal Garden Mall entrance or even the front entrance because it's all open there. The mistake they both make is they allow patio dining. Just walk by, grab you a used plate that somebody left behind or hell, bring your own plate that looks the same and walk in and enjoy their 5 star buffet. Nobody will say anything to you when you are holding a plate. They think you already checked in.
Aya Botique has never checked anyone even if they stayed there or not. Many times I've stayed there, breakfast not included, and I would go down to eat breakfast. It's not a buffet, rather crappy, but it was free.
I know more places, but I would have to spend all night writing.
P. P. S: If you think I am lying, ask FL Hawk.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2555742]P. P. S: If you think I am lying, ask FL Hawk.[/QUOTE]Dude that Radisson Blu description was spot on. BTW, to bring back a theme from the past, its an awesome venue for taking a dump too. Fabulous cans in the lobby.
I know you aren't lying, MP, I'm a fan LOL. Folks that dis you can talk the talk, but haven't walked the walk.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2555742] Snip.
If you manage to sit down with your first plate, unchecked. Then it's pretty much game over for them. I would always make myself more visible, once the hard part was done sneaking in. I would ask the bussers, where certain items where on the buffet (it's huge and many many stations), complement the cooks, and leave a small 20 baht tip as well. On the way out, use the main set of elevators, and walk by the hostess and "thank her." By making yourself familiar and kind, the next day, nobody would even question you about anything when they see you again.
Snip/[/QUOTE]By making yourself known to the hostess, would she not know the next time you snuck in and left by the main entrance that you hadn't paid for the buffet since you didn't check in with her at the entrance to the buffet? Making yourself known would force you to sneak out the back stairs instead.
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If I fly into Bangkok and do my asq there do I need to worry about getting to Phuket? It's a couple hundred dollars more expensive to fly into Phuket. That is where I want to be for reasons other then mongering. I worry they will close off internal travel. Also it seems cheaper for asq in Phuket.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2556460]If I fly into Bangkok and do my asq there do I need to worry about getting to Phuket? It's a couple hundred dollars more expensive to fly into Phuket. That is where I want to be for reasons other then mongering. I worry they will close off internal travel. Also it seems cheaper for asq in Phuket.[/QUOTE]No restrictions on domestic air travel but of course that may change even from after you arrive at your ASQ until you complete your ASQ. TIT.
Personally I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks more and go straight to my chosen destination rather than take another flight. It's like deciding to pay $200 more for a direct flight than one with a stopover. I'll always pay for the direct flight. Even more so now to lower the chances of getting COVID.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2556512]No restrictions on domestic air travel but of course that may change even from after you arrive at your ASQ until you complete your ASQ. TIT.
Personally I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks more and go straight to my chosen destination rather than take another flight. It's like deciding to pay $200 more for a direct flight than one with a stopover. I'll always pay for the direct flight. Even more so now to lower the chances of getting COVID.[/QUOTE]If ASQ in Pukhet, the flight into Thailand needs to be a direct international flight to Pukhet. A flight with stopover in Bangkok won't do.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;2555632]With their numbers growing there's actually an outside chance that Thailand closes its borders altogether to everyone, vaccinated or not, quarantine or not.
The recent increases from 7 to 10 to 14 days quarantine is an indication borders may be reclosed.[/QUOTE]I hope international flights won't be cancelled. I don't want now to be stuck in Thailand after having long been stuck out of Thailand. Being stranded in Thailand was only ok as long as Thailand had the pandemic under control.
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[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1216213-thailand-previews-difficult-life-without-tourists/[/URL]
Looks like a hard time ahead for Thais.
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3 Types of Empathy
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2556430]By making yourself known to the hostess, would she not know the next time you snuck in and left by the main entrance that you hadn't paid for the buffet since you didn't check in with her at the entrance to the buffet? Making yourself known would force you to sneak out the back stairs instead.[/QUOTE]Empathy itself just means to be able to put yourself in a position of another (person, place, thing, or the plural of these forms). It is an enormous concept, even a gift of sorts to those who can master it. Because you then have the ability to predict and even control others. It is a power that is not given to all, and not even to its fullest extent to those who think they may have it. There are 3 types of empathy.
1. Compassionate (This is the one most people think of when the term "empathy" is used. Basically, it just means to have an understanding to what is being felt).
2. Emotional (Being able to read and understand their emotions. This is very high level skill, such as laughter doesn't necessarily mean happiness).
3. Cognitive (Being able to see from their perspective and thinking. Basically, you are able to read their mind and thought processes).
The faster anyone is able to do these 3, the better they will become at the game of "LIFE. " Being highly skilled in empathy, allows you manage your own emotions and raises your own power in "emotional intelligence. " Google this one. This is a real concept CIA agents and spies have. To be able to control your emotions in response to another's to achieve your own goals, goes beyond discipline. When one is able to really master this skill of emotion intelligence, they become Hannibal Lecter-like. And can really get into the minds of others and manipulate them for any purpose they wish.
So back to what you asked. There is a reason why, a "thank you" is always better than ignore. You have one hostess, checking in at least 200 rooms and 400 guests for breakfast time at Radisson Blu. At around 8-9 am, it's probably the busiest and the guest line will get longer and longer, as she checks off the rooms one by one. They guests always gets inpatient, tables don't get cleaned quick enough, and there is always bitching and griping. The hostess just smiles, lots of "I'm sorries," stays respectful to these 5 star hotel guests, and continues to do her job. Her only job is to be the gatekeeper at the check in desk and help bus tables when it's slow. It's not to be the security or detective to see who is valid and who is not. She doesn't get paid enough to be the Radisson RoboCop. Your "thank you" to her and politeness to other staff, is a "play" on empathy. Hope you get the gist. But like I said, empathy in itself, is a gift or power that not everybody or everything has. Remember Eddie Haskell with "Good afternoon Mrs. Clever. That's a lovely dress you are wearing. " Eddie was always able to concoct and instigate schemes with his friends, schemes for which they, not Eddie, would be in the position of blame if caught. Master of the Game type shit.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2556374]Dude that Radisson Blu description was spot on. BTW, to bring back a theme from the past, its an awesome venue for taking a dump too. Fabulous cans in the lobby.
I know you aren't lying, MP, I'm a fan LOL. Folks that dis you can talk the talk, but haven't walked the walk.[/QUOTE]If at Nana, use the Landmark Hotel guest bathrooms by going into the Atrium next door (patio restaurant and coffee shop), stay to the left until reach back. Take a left and go up the stairs that lead to the Landmark Hotel. Once exiting those doors, bathrooms are to the immediate right and the elevators are to the left. You just successfully bypassed the security desk for the Landmark, way on the other side.
If at Thermae, go out the back garage entrance by their bathrooms and across the Sheraton Four Points Hotel. This is the same Soi 15 entrance to avoid the pesky to forced "buy a drink." At Four Points, just walk pass the front desks and lobby lounge. When see elevators, make a left, stay to left of elevators and there are the guest bathrooms.
I feel bad for those who are lost or unknown to these privies, and have to use the unisex bathrooms at the Gogo bars. Good luck on barfining the hotter girls after having the runs or taking out a massive load. Those bathroom attendants talk and the girls are standing right there waiting for the toilets as well. Haha.
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Chances of getting COVID after vaccination
Didn't look hard so maybe someone can find something more recent. From an April 16 article 5800 Americans out of 125.8 million people who got at least one jab contracted COVID AFTER their shot. That's 1 in 21,690 people. Number seems low enough for Thailand to consider a vaccine passport.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558752]Didn't look hard so maybe someone can find something more recent. From an April 16 article 5800 Americans out of 125.8 million people who got at least one jab contracted COVID AFTER their shot. That's 1 in 21,690 people. Number seems low enough for Thailand to consider a vaccine passport.[/QUOTE]There's even better news in the real world outside trials: New Public Health England (PHE) analysis shows for the first time that individuals who receive a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine have approximately 80% lower risk of death with COVID-19 compared with unvaccinated individuals. [URL]https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-further-evidence-of-success[/URL].
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558752]Didn't look hard so maybe someone can find something more recent. From an April 16 article 5800 Americans out of 125.8 million people who got at least one jab contracted COVID AFTER their shot. That's 1 in 21,690 people. Number seems low enough for Thailand to consider a vaccine passport.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Downandup;2558786]There's even better news in the real world outside trials: New Public Health England (PHE) analysis shows for the first time that individuals who receive a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine have approximately 80% lower risk of death with COVID-19 compared with unvaccinated individuals. [URL]https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-further-evidence-of-success[/URL].[/QUOTE]They are using vaccine passports. I don't think they've determined how to implement the vaccine passport. But the plan is to allow vaccinated tourists to visit without quarantine starting in July (Phuket), 5 other provinces on Oct 1 and the rest of Thailand on Jan 1.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2112151/phuket-to-reopen-as-planned[/URL]
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Covid-19
Let this Corona be over as soon as possible. Enough already.
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[QUOTE=Abellaa;2558794]Let this Corona be over as soon as possible. Enough already.[/QUOTE]What will we talk about then?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2557582]Empathy itself just means to be able to put yourself in a position of another (person, place, thing, or the plural of these forms). It is an enormous concept, even a gift of sorts to those who can master it. Because you then have the ability to predict and even control others. It is a power that is not given to all, and not even to its fullest extent to those who think they may have it. There are 3 types of empathy.
1. Compassionate (This is the one most people think of when the term "empathy" is used. Basically, it just means to have an understanding to what is being felt).
2. Emotional (Being able to read and understand their emotions. This is very high level skill, such as laughter doesn't necessarily mean happiness).
3. Cognitive (Being able to see from their perspective and thinking. Basically, you are able to read their mind and thought processes).
The faster anyone is able to do these 3, the better they will become at the game of "LIFE. " Being highly skilled in empathy, allows you manage your own emotions and raises your own power in "emotional intelligence. " Google this one. This is a real concept CIA agents and spies have. To be able to control your emotions in response to another's to achieve your own goals, goes beyond discipline. When one is able to really master this skill of emotion intelligence, they become Hannibal Lecter-like. And can really get into the minds of others and manipulate them for any purpose they wish.
So back to what you asked. There is a reason why, a "thank you" is always better than ignore. You have one hostess, checking in at least 200 rooms and 400 guests for breakfast time at Radisson Blu. At around 8-9 am, it's probably the busiest and the guest line will get longer and longer, as she checks off the rooms one by one. They guests always gets inpatient, tables don't get cleaned quick enough, and there is always bitching and griping. The hostess just smiles, lots of "I'm sorries," stays respectful to these 5 star hotel guests, and continues to do her job. Her only job is to be the gatekeeper at the check in desk and help bus tables when it's slow. It's not to be the security or detective to see who is valid and who is not. She doesn't get paid enough to be the Radisson RoboCop. Your "thank you" to her and politeness to other staff, is a "play" on empathy. Hope you get the gist. But like I said, empathy in itself, is a gift or power that not everybody or everything has. Remember Eddie Haskell with "Good afternoon Mrs. Clever. That's a lovely dress you are wearing. " Eddie was always able to concoct and instigate schemes with his friends, schemes for which they, not Eddie, would be in the position of blame if caught. Master of the Game type shit. Snip/[/QUOTE]So you would use your being "highly skilled in empathy" to make her complicit in your theft by not reporting it to management? What a guy!
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Covid-19
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558935]What will we talk about then?[/QUOTE]LOL.
Things might begin to turn around sooner than I expected, with today's announcement by the USA's CDC. New and emerging data says that for those who are fully vaccinated not need to wear masks except on planes and busses. Further, those who are fully vaccinated are extremely unlikely to transmit the virus should they unknowingly carry it. If this analysis is accepted by the public and by most countries, come November, 2021, every plane landing at Suvarnabhumi will have its windows fogged on the inside. LOL.
SS.
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The Privileged Paw (Did I ever mention my favorite color is blue?)
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2553929]Order order gentlemen I say I say, members of this venerable forum have to stop impugning my good friend the right honorable MP for Pattaya. It's not his fault he is a privileged young man of tender age. SNIP...[/QUOTE]Let's see, I've stayed here in Pattaya almost 15 months now. Privileged would probably mean I've been living it up at the Hilton or Avani, in a 1 bedroom suite with sea view. Privileged means I would probably dished out the cash to get a motorbike or bicycle, or perhaps both to get around town. Privileged means every time I got bored and escaped to BKK, it would have been in a private car.
Instead, I walk everywhere, everyday, twice a day at least 4 km. When I go super far, in Pattaya I would take the 10 baht bus. And when I go to BKK, I take the public bus, get dropped off at Ekkamai BTS, and take the skytrain from there. And the reason, I walk everywhere is to keep this BMI at healthy 22.7 and you ain't going to find a Chunky Monkey in Pattaya, even if you tried.
Every morning, I take my first shower of the day using the public showers by the swimming pool. If I want a quiet and really deep sleep in the cold type of nap, I take my soft blanket, and head to Royal Garden. The mall is dead and empty, but quiet enough for an awesome nap with fantastic dreams in the kids play area.
And the most per month I've paid is $400 for a condo or hotel. I clean and cook myself. The condo I am at now, I leave my door open to get free air-conditioning from the cool hallway during the hot day. And at night, I sleep with a mosquito net, and my windows open. This saves a shit load in bills.
By the way, my current rent where I am at is only $330, but here's the kicker. That price includes electric and water. So why do I not run the AC as often to keep myself comfortable or take showers in my room? I do this, unknowingly to my landlord and his family, so they can keep more of the rent I pay them.
So am I a Cheap Charlie, smart and savvy, privileged, or something else this damned world has never seen before? And my reward for all my sacrifice and being a good Angel? That is to keep on banging these hot girls, whilst sticking my thumb in their asses. Even Jesus Christ would be proud of me. Can I get an Hallelujah and AMEN?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627]Let's see, I've stayed here in Pattaya almost 15 months now. Privileged would probably mean I've been living it up at the Hilton or Avani, in a 1 bedroom suite with sea view. Privileged means I would probably dished out the cash to get a motorbike or bicycle, or perhaps both to get around town. Privileged means every time I got bored and escaped to BKK, it would have been in a private car.[/QUOTE]No need to get so defensive my MP for Pattaya, who ever said being privileged refers only to being wealthy, can be but it can also mean being special such as having exceptional game, being gifted with superior intellect and so on. No idea what your financial circumstances are, perhaps your described lifestyle is out of necessity perhaps not but nobody is in any doubt by your own account you are an extraordinarily accomplished individual and this is why I described you as privileged.
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The Indian variant is very transmissible so masks.
S will be needed as it gets a grip around the world.
[URL]https://uk.news.yahoo.com/british-airways-cabin-crew-not-104639041.html[/URL]
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Nice life if you want that kind of low life
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627]Let's see, I've stayed here in Pattaya almost 15 months now. Privileged would probably mean I've been living it up at the Hilton or Avani, in a 1 bedroom suite with sea view. Privileged means I would probably dished out the cash to get a motorbike or bicycle, or perhaps both to get around town. Privileged means every time I got bored and escaped to BKK, it would have been in a private car.
Instead, I walk everywhere, everyday, twice a day at least 4 km. When I go super far, in Pattaya I would take the 10 baht bus. And when I go to BKK, I take the public bus, get dropped off at Ekkamai BTS, and take the skytrain from there. And the reason, I walk everywhere is to keep this BMI at healthy 22.7 and you ain't going to find a Chunky Monkey in Pattaya, even if you tried.
Every morning, I take my first shower of the day using the public showers by the swimming pool. If I want a quiet and really deep sleep in the cold type of nap, I take my soft blanket, and head to Royal Garden. The mall is dead and empty, but quiet enough for an awesome nap with fantastic dreams in the kids play area.
And the most per month I've paid is $400 for a condo or hotel. I clean and cook myself. The condo I am at now, I leave my door open to get free air-conditioning from the cool hallway during the hot day. And at night, I sleep with a mosquito net, and my windows open. This saves a shit load in bills.
By the way, my current rent where I am at is only $330, but here's the kicker. That price includes electric and water. So why do I not run the AC as often to keep myself comfortable or take showers in my room? I do this, unknowingly to my landlord and his family, so they can keep more of the rent I pay them.
So am I a Cheap Charlie, smart and savvy, privileged, or something else this damned world has never seen before? And my reward for all my sacrifice and being a good Angel? That is to keep on banging these hot girls, whilst sticking my thumb in their asses. Even Jesus Christ would be proud of me. Can I get an Hallelujah and AMEN?[/QUOTE]It seem to me a poor soul in a homeless shelter has it better.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2559774]No need to get so defensive my MP for Pattaya, who ever said being privileged refers only to being wealthy, can be but it can also mean being special such as having exceptional game, being gifted with superior intellect and so on. No idea what your financial circumstances are, perhaps your described lifestyle is out of necessity perhaps not but nobody is in any doubt by your own account you are an extraordinarily accomplished individual and this is why I described you as privileged.[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention in my reply but yet another example of your privileged existence is your literary achievements. With your linguistic simplicity and frolicsome fables you have explored the periphery and the specificity of human experience and uncovered the abyss beneath our illusory sense of connection with the world. With hallucinatory realism and sensual ecstasy you have merged folk tales and created an imagined world, where life and myth coalesce to form a disconcerting picture of the human condition. With your unique experiences and insights in which the fantastic and the realistic are combined in a world of imagination you portray the tormented soul and the destitution of modern man with understanding and subtle analysis. With your imaginative writings, keen social perception with elemental force you bring alive Pattaya's dreams. Using deep insight your posts penetrate the mystique of go go land and with intensity and clear-sighted earnestness your descriptions of peasant life in Thailand are truly epic. In summary you been of very great benefit to humanity and have exerted a far-reaching influence on our age and wholly deserve your Nobel prize for Literature joining the ranks of similar visionaries such as Beckett, Camus and Sartre.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560180]These claims need to be backed up with photos. You not going to get away with this doing it to Hot girls.
500 batters, I guess.[/QUOTE]The guy who is too lazy to even post an url is demanding photos from Mr. E? Don't ask for photos if you never post any yourself!
And yes you can do it with hot girls.
Bit Siri.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560343]The guy who is too lazy to even post an url is demanding photos from Mr. E? Don't ask for photos if you never post any yourself!
And yes you can do it with hot girls.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]Com'on man I don't agree with Danny Duck very often and I don't like most of his posts but you are being ridiculous in your rebuttals to him now. What you say may be true if you're an often visitor to a bar and know a girl or are well known in the bar. But as a casual or first time visitor you can NOT sit with a hot girl and feel her up and DFK her without first buying her a lady drink.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2560386]Com'on man I don't agree with Danny Duck very often and I don't like most of his posts but you are being ridiculous in your rebuttals to him now. What you say may be true if you're an often visitor to a bar and know a girl or are well known in the bar. But as a casual or first time visitor you can NOT sit with a hot girl and feel her up and DFK her without first buying her a lady drink.[/QUOTE]Can you give me examples of what I post you don't agree with.
My post are so mundane I don't see how it gets anyone worked up.
A lot of my post don't make it to print here.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560393]Can you give me examples of what I post you don't agree with.
My post are so mundane I don't see how it gets anyone worked up.
A lot of my post don't make it to print here.[/QUOTE]Too funny. HP was trying to defend you and now you're questioning him!
Bit Siri.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560393]Can you give me examples of what I post you don't agree with.
My post are so mundane I don't see how it gets anyone worked up.
A lot of my post don't make it to print here.[/QUOTE]A lot of your posts don't make it to print because you are probably on moderation and the moderator doesn't believe they are worth posting (I don't know if this is why it's just a guess, I'm not speaking for a moderator).
Your first post that I didn't agree with was about you having 800,000 baht or more in a Thai bank account but since you weren't here you were afraid that the account would be put in a dormant status and you didn't know how to get the money out. I responded to that post and I even sent you a PM to give you examples of how to solve the issue. When you didn't respond I knew you were weren't serious. Then as you started to post more I noticed that your experiences were way different from mine. Not just occasionally but almost consistently different especially when talking about ladies behavior and your posts about certain bars were totally different from mine. I'm not calling you out as being a liar or making shit up or anything that like but I am saying that I disagree with most of your posts. Until now I had chosen to just ignore most of your posts as they didn't relate to me.
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Oh no. Oh no.
[QUOTE=TConor;2559954]It seem to me a poor soul in a homeless shelter has it better.[/QUOTE]I have no job. I move around from temporary housing to temporary housing. All my belongings in life, fit in 2 suitcases. I don't have a permanent address. Am I homeless? Some of the beach bums and homeless people in Pattaya have motorbikes and cell phones. They all have money and food. So maybe I fit the definition.
Another thing is I watch my movies on my laptop, even though there is a 50 inch LG flat screen in my room for rent. And I have an adapter and HDMI cable. Why? Too much heat and electricity. Perhaps the savings will go to my landlord's kid's school lunch.
I think Monkeypaw just may be the Saint this world has been praying for. And if you were wondering the same as Bonnie, where are all the gods or streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Like Enrique said, I can be your hero. Let me be your hero.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2559774]No need to get so defensive my MP for Pattaya, who ever said being privileged refers only to being wealthy, can be but it can also mean being special such as having exceptional game, being gifted with superior intellect and so on. No idea what your financial circumstances are, perhaps your described lifestyle is out of necessity perhaps not but nobody is in any doubt by your own account you are an extraordinarily accomplished individual and this is why I described you as privileged.[/QUOTE]The Paw sometimes has to clarify in case there is any confusion. But it has been 24 days since your original post and my response. And in that time, I have banged 11 girls (one of which, highly resembles Lisa Manoban from BlackPink), watched all 3 seasons of The Mayans MC, on my laptop, and taken close to 75 shits (high metabolism, plus I removed my own gall-bladder so I can eat fatty foods without worry). So hopefully with that time lapse, you do understand that I wasn't really to being defensive and my priorities were somewhere else. I also didn't mean anything directed to any one individual, much less yourself. Heck, if you go back and read carefully, I didn't even use the word "you," even once, when I wrote the response. Like G-Eazy, I made it all about me, myself, and I. And it was just so that nobody gets the wrong idea about the Paw.
Not many people can say they have unwillingly picked cotton by hand, in 110 degrees heat, with a cowboy on his horse, holding a shotgun, watching over them, just and case somebody tries to run. Those blisters you get on your fingers are something else. And "yes," Monkeypaw was privileged (we might as well use this word now) enough to experience this. Very interesting time in my life, but that's how the power of empathy is learned and gained. So whenever, my associates want to talk about anything about BLM, injustices, or anything political, I always start off with that story. And funny enough, the conversation ends right there.
Also by the way, I only went as far as the 10th grade in high school (not sure where all this smart and savviness comes from). Dropped out in the 11th, but somehow manage to end up with a couple of Graduate degrees and being named Graduate Student of the Year by my university. Plus managed to amass over $250,000 in student loans, but not pay a cent in 8 years (and counting), and still have my payments of "nothing" each month, still count as a full, on time payment, as reported to the 3 credit bureaus. My family and I just love sticking it to the the man. I just keep telling folks, I am guided by a force greater than myself, perhaps greater than this life will ever know. Luckily it's good and so am I. Simply amazing, from the boy who said he'd be true. What's my favorite color? Hint: It rhymes with "true".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXLicO0CRvk[/URL]
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Thailand Puchai put out another video. Much better than the other one I recommended. Search youtube.
7 minutes. Appearance by Manager. YouTube.
Girl very OK.
Soundtrack is the Highlight. I like the song.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2560763]I think Monkeypaw just may be the Saint this world has been praying for. Let me be your hero.I have banged 11 girls (one of which, highly resembles Lisa Manoban from BlackPink), I made it all about me, myself, and I. And it was just so that nobody gets the wrong idea about the Paw.
Not many people can say they have unwillingly picked cotton by hand, in 110 degrees heat, with a cowboy on his horse, holding a shotgun, watching over them, just and case somebody tries to run. Those blisters you get on your fingers are something else. And "yes," Monkeypaw was privileged (we might as well use this word now) enough to experience this. Very interesting time in my life, but that's how the power of empathy is learned and gained. So whenever, my associates want to talk about anything about BLM, injustices, or anything political, I always start off with that story. And funny enough, the conversation ends right there.
Also by the way, I only went as far as the 10th grade in high school (not sure where all this smart and savviness comes from). Dropped out in the 11th, but somehow manage to end up with a couple of Graduate degrees and being named Graduate Student of the Year by my university. I just keep telling folks, I am guided by a force greater than myself, perhaps greater than this life will ever know. Luckily it's good and so am I. Simply amazing, from the boy who said he'd be true. [/QUOTE]Oh my MP for Pattaya, how many times did I warn you, pleaded with you you, begged you please don't stop taking your meds. I told you this might happen.
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Right now?
I have no job. I move around from temporary housing to temporary housing. All my belongings in life, fit in 2 suitcases. I don't have a permanent address. Am I homeless? Some of the beach bums and homeless people in Pattaya have motorbikes and cell phones. They all have money and food. So maybe I fit the definition.
Another thing is I watch my movies on my laptop, even though there is a 50 inch LG flat screen in my room for rent. And I have an adapter and HDMI cable. Why? Too much heat and electricity. Perhaps the savings will go to my landlord's kid's school lunch.
I think Monkeypaw just may be the Saint this world has been praying for. And if you were wondering the same as Bonnie, where are all the gods or streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Like Enrique said, I can be your hero. Let me be your hero.
What I am trying to say is I admit we all have certain rights, like what kind of life style we choose to live. But please do not romanticize a life style that could only badly influence gullible Eurotrash, Cheap Charlies from down under, and scum bum types from North America and Russia. Plenty of us have worked our asses off for 30,40 even 50 years to retire with a standard of living befitting our hard work and goals. The life style you profess to live places a target on the backs of all Farang retirees. The Thai government has tried to rid the country of those here who do not contribute to the economy and society. They do not want freeloaders coming to suck off Thailand. And they have over the past few years added burdens like excesses amounts of money deposited for longer periods in Thai bank accounts and be. S. Insurance requirements. All to get rid of the lowest of low "tourist". I believe that growing older is a privilege that many will never experience. Those of us who are experiencing it don't need any more road blocks.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560851]Thailand Puchai put out another video. Much better than the other one I recommended. Search youtube.
7 minutes. Appearance by Manager. YouTube.
Girl very OK.
Soundtrack is the Highlight. I like the song.[/QUOTE]There are a few guys who have questioned whether Dannyboy has ever been to Pattaya or even Thailand. I'm starting to feel this way as well, with his fixation and obsession with YouTube vids and livestreams of very average looking women, something a Pattaya regular wouldn't even look twice at.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]
What I am trying to say is I admit we all have certain rights, like what kind of life style we choose to live. But please do not romanticize a life style that could only badly influence gullible Eurotrash, Cheap Charlies from down under, and scum bum types from North America and Russia. Plenty of us have worked our asses off for 30,40 even 50 years to retire with a standard of living befitting our hard work and goals. The life style you profess to live places a target on the backs of all Farang retirees. The Thai government has tried to rid the country of those here who do not contribute to the economy and society. They do not want freeloaders coming to suck off Thailand. And they have over the past few years added burdens like excesses amounts of money deposited for longer periods in Thai bank accounts and be. S. Insurance requirements. All to get rid of the lowest of low "tourist". I believe that growing older is a privilege that many will never experience. Those of us who are experiencing it don't need any more road blocks.[/QUOTE]Amen to that.
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So true
[QUOTE=EdSetra;2560980]Amen to that.[/QUOTE]Hear Hear!
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[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]What I am trying to say is I admit we all have certain rights, like what kind of life style we choose to live. But please do not romanticize a life style that could only badly influence gullible Eurotrash, Cheap Charlies from down under, and scum bum types from North America and Russia. Plenty of us have worked our asses off for 30,40 even 50 years to retire with a standard of living befitting our hard work and goals. The life style you profess to live places a target on the backs of all Farang retirees. The Thai government has tried to rid the country of those here who do not contribute to the economy and society. They do not want freeloaders coming to suck off Thailand. And they have over the past few years added burdens like excesses amounts of money deposited for longer periods in Thai bank accounts and be. S. Insurance requirements. All to get rid of the lowest of low "tourist". I believe that growing older is a privilege that many will never experience. Those of us who are experiencing it don't need any more road blocks.[/QUOTE]Well stated TC. A very thoughtful and cogent post encompassing the simile values of decency and honesty. Unfortunately there are a number of self-proclaimed "bada**es who glorify bad behavior and some unfortunates with severe delusional psychosis and are more to be pitied than scorned.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]The Thai government has tried to rid the country of those here who do not contribute to the economy and society. They do not want freeloaders coming to suck off Thailand. [/QUOTE]Pre-COVID if Thailand had it their way all tourists would be rich people mainly from China (not those who come in on zero income tour buses). Thai citizens would freak out but it sure would benefit the economy.
A person may not agree with the way Thai run their country but we all need to remember it is THEIR country and we are extremely privileged to be allowed to go there. We are only visitors whether we are just doing a One Night in Bangkok layover or an expat. Same for any other country we are lucky to visit.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]The life style you profess to live places a target on the backs of all Farang retirees.[/QUOTE]LOL. There is no freaking target on anyone. What lifestyle is he professing to live? Maybe you can not tell from his posts, but MP is a very simple guy that seems is trying to leave less of a carbon footprint than most people. Should he be around there living it up like Caligula? Would that get the target off the backs of retirees?
He might (or used to before Covid) splurge on chicks and in the gogo, but the rest of his life he spends making noodles and buying the stuff the store is getting ready to throw out; living a simple existence. He could rent a car or motorbike, but he always chooses to walk everywhere. Again it is really different thinking you know someone from a few posts they have written and meeting them in real life. Mfs got problems when they think he is living it up and the same mfs have problems when he is living simple. Dammit man! Make up your fucking minds.
[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]The Thai government has tried to rid the country of those here who do not contribute to the economy and society. They do not want freeloaders coming to suck off Thailand.[/QUOTE]In what day has a foreigner ever been able to suck off of Thailand? Hell, Thais can not even suck off of Thailand. They want foreigners that will spend in excess is what they want. If a mf is paying for his room and buying food then he is contributing to the economy. Do you expect him to be buying a new Mercedes Benz every month? What do you consider contributing to the economy?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561010]Pre-COVID if Thailand had it their way all tourists would be rich people mainly from China (not those who come in on zero income tour buses). [/QUOTE]Exactly. Thais want to bring in foreigners that they can take advantage of. Look at all the dual pricing around. I am a member of a group in facebook that only concerns itself with the dual pricing system that takes advantage of foreigners. How you and your wife of 20 years going to go to a venue and you are charged 2 different prices because no matter how long you have lived there, you will never be Thai? But it is what it is. Not my country, not my rules.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561010]A person may not agree with the way Thai run their country but we all need to remember it is THEIR country and we are extremely privileged to be allowed to go there.[/QUOTE]Trips me out reading Thai Visa. Damn foreigners acting like they should own the place and have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Foreigners upset because they can't get first dibs on the vaccine. Mf it is not your country. Their number one priority is to take care of their people. You come not after the last bum on the street, but even after the last pet that citizens own. You are a guest. Take your ass back to where you are a citizen and get your vaccine. What other country just allows mfs to come move in as Thailand does? But give mfs 1 centimeter and they want to take a kilometer. I just shut the fuck up and thank the powers that be that I am allowed to be a visitor there.
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Dual prices not a myth
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561041]
Exactly. Thais want to bring in foreigners that they can take advantage of. Look at all the dual pricing around. I am a member of a group in facebook that only concerns itself with the dual pricing system that takes advantage of foreigners. How you and your wife of 20 years going to go to a venue and you are charged 2 different prices because no matter how long you have lived there, you will never be Thai? But it is what it is. Not my country, not my rules.
.[/QUOTE]I have experienced what you say to be true about the dual prices. Only made one trip to Thailand coming up on ten years ago. I Visited Bangkok, Patong Beach and spend some time on Ko Phi Phi Don. Before going over there I spent time on Thai Cupid talking to girls. We went to the mall and she taught me by sending my up to the counter to ask the price a portable speaker while she waited outside the store, than I went and told her it was 250 baht, she asked me to give her 125 baht and she went and got the speaker, so 50% mark up for the farang.
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Math (s)
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2561269]I have experienced what you say to be true about the dual prices. Only made one trip to Thailand coming up on ten years ago. I Visited Bangkok, Patong Beach and spend some time on Ko Phi Phi Don. Before going over there I spent time on Thai Cupid talking to girls. We went to the mall and she taught me by sending my up to the counter to ask the price a portable speaker while she waited outside the store, than I went and told her it was 250 baht, she asked me to give her 125 baht and she went and got the speaker, so 50% mark up for the farang.[/QUOTE]Or even 100% in places where maths is not understood by the Farang.
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200% mark down from Europe
[QUOTE=EdSetra;2561283]Or even 100% in places where maths is not understood by the Farang.[/QUOTE]In Europe they do not need duel pricing, they gauge everyone equally.
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I only need to read 2 words to know where you are coming from
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561041]LOL. There is no freaking target on anyone. What lifestyle is he professing to live? Maybe you can not tell from his posts, but MP is a very simple guy that seems is trying to leave less of a carbon footprint than most people. Should he be around there living it up like Caligula? Would that get the target off the backs of retirees?
He might (or used to before Covid) splurge on chicks and in the gogo, but the rest of his life he spends making noodles and buying the stuff the store is getting ready to throw out; living a simple existence. He could rent a car or motorbike, but he always chooses to walk everywhere. Again it is really different thinking you know someone from a few posts they have written and meeting them in real life. Mfs got problems when they think he is living it up and the same mfs have problems when he is living simple. Dammit man! Make up your fucking minds.
In what day has a foreigner ever been able to suck off of Thailand? Hell, Thais can not even suck off of Thailand. They want foreigners that will spend in excess is what they want. If a mf is paying for his room and buying food then he is contributing to the economy. Do you expect him to be buying a new Mercedes Benz every month? What do you consider contributing to the economy?
Exactly. Thais want to bring in foreigners that they can take advantage of. Look at all the dual pricing around. I am a member of a group in facebook that only concerns itself with the dual pricing system that takes advantage of foreigners. How you and your wife of 20 years going to go to a venue and you are charged 2 different prices because no matter how long you have lived there, you will never be Thai? But it is what it is. Not my country, not my rules.
Trips me out reading Thai Visa. Damn foreigners acting like they should own the place and have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Foreigners upset because they can't get first dibs on the vaccine. Mf it is not your country. Their number one priority is to take care of their people. You come not after the last bum on the street, but even after the last pet that citizens own. You are a guest. Take your ass back to where you are a citizen and get your vaccine. What other country just allows mfs to come move in as Thailand does? But give mfs 1 centimeter and they want to take a kilometer. I just shut the fuck up and thank the powers that be that I am allowed to be a visitor there.[/QUOTE]Carbon footprint 555 x 5 k.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561041]. I just shut the fuck up[/QUOTE]Good advise Mr E. Now if only you followed it.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2561291]Carbon footprint 555 x 5 k.[/QUOTE]LOL. Well that is what it seems like to me. I am out stomping around trying to destroy everything in my wake, but it seems he is tiptoeing as not to disturb anything for future generations. Like how scuba diving how you are not supposed to touch anything to leave it for future divers to enjoy. But I am like fuck that, I am touching this shit!
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2561269]We went to the mall and she taught me by sending my up to the counter to ask the price a portable speaker while she waited outside the store, than I went and told her it was 250 baht, she asked me to give her 125 baht and she went and got the speaker, so 50% mark up for the farang.[/QUOTE]I definitely expect it in the private sector that you are talking about, but I was referring to government run tourist attractions where the prices are posted. At this national park foreigners pay 5 times more than Thais.
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Misprint?
[QUOTE=TConor;2561290]In Europe they do not need duel pricing, they gauge everyone equally.[/QUOTE]Gauge or gouge. I'd say everyone is gouged equally in Europe.
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Ridiculous
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561329]LOL. Well that is what it seems like to me. I am out stomping around trying to destroy everything in my wake, but it seems he is tiptoeing as not to disturb anything for future generations. Like how scuba diving how you are not supposed to touch anything to leave it for future divers to enjoy. But I am like fuck that, I am touching this shit![/QUOTE]Please send him 10 usd a month so that he can take his showers at home instead of at the pool. If you really want to help make it 15 so he can turn on the AC as well. He's not really lowering his footprint by showering and using the AC somewhere else he's just getting someone else to foot the bill. This is ridiculous.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561332]I definitely expect it in the private sector that you are talking about, but I was referring to government run tourist attractions where the prices are posted. At this national park foreigners pay 5 times more than Thais.[/QUOTE]At most if not all of the government run tourist attractions, museums and so on where a sign similar to that is posted I show them a photo copy of my O-A Non Imm (Long Stay/Retirement) Visa stamp page from my passport to show them I live here and am not a "Foreign Visitor" and I get the local Thai rate. I can't recall where doing that has failed but it might have once somewhere.
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State of things
How are things now for mongering?
I sort of get the impression reading the threads that there is still action in Bangkok. Is that the case?
Are the bars open in Soi Cowboy? Can you still use Smooci? Is there street action?
I ask because I'm going to be coming to Bangkok for my med check on the way to a new job. I want to know if I should bother to stay an extra week or two.
I go back a few pages and I don't see anyone addressing this concretely. I'm just trying to figure out what things are like, don't need an exhaustive description.
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State of things 2
Or maybe a better way to ask is: Where can someone still get a nice cute youngish Thai girl these days? Is it OKcupid / tinder or bust or are there places still traditional places available?
Thanks in advance.
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An interesting chart showing number of people who have received 1 or 2 shots. Thailand has had 2.65 million vaccinations. 2.5% of population received 1 dose. 1.3% fully vaccinated.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html[/URL]
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Gouge. Swindle
[QUOTE=EdSetra;2561354]Gauge or gouge. I'd say everyone is gouged equally in Europe.[/QUOTE]This is what happens when you can't type and Miss Autocorrect takes her turn and you forget to proof read.
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Woe is me
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561332]I definitely expect it in the private sector that you are talking about, but I was referring to government run tourist attractions where the prices are posted. At this national park foreigners pay 5 times more than Thais.[/QUOTE]So 200/40 = 5, 35623/7807 = 4. 6 It's those poor Chinese tourists I worry about. 😂.
Nomanal GDP per capita thailand.
Thailand / GDP per capita.
7,806.74 USD (2019).
Economy of the European UnionGDP per capita.
$35,623 (nominal; 2019).
China / GDP per capita.
10,261. 68 USD (2019).
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The Girl in Question
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560851]Thailand Puchai put out another video. Much better than the other one I recommended. Search youtube.
7 minutes. Appearance by Manager. YouTube.
Girl very OK.
Soundtrack is the Highlight. I like the song.[/QUOTE]The girl in your Korean Superstar video is old news. She looks a bit worn from the time she was a cherry girl and Monkeypaw had the "privilege" of breaking her in a few times, when she had more of a fresh and innocent look. Not sure how dated that video is, but from the looks of it, all the freshness has gone out of the bag. The potato chips look a tad stale, but I guess, she is still OK for some like your Korean Superstar. Back then, the Paw was a bad fingerling and she was one of my BBFS CIP conquests. Thank God, nothing horrible came out of it and I was shown the light. The Heavens opened up and Monkeypaw was given the gift of being able to cum inside a condom without any difficulty. Whoo hoo!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzPb5AM0qw[/URL]
(Speaking of condoms, here's a Monkeypaw secret to share, OLO 30 count 001 condoms for 65 baht or $2 is a cheap bargain. I go through 3 boxes of 10 each in about 2 months. They work great, especially with my secret "gel" that I already reported on awhile back in case anybody needs that extra help to RTFF. However, if there is some disbelief about the Paw's gift or the quality of the cheap OLO 001 condoms, I've frozen a couple of already used and filled ones along with my mini-paws, which is high minerals like zinc, magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Literally, the proof is the Paw's pudding and they are ready to ship to BKK for inspection, just PM me).
Now back to your Korean SuperStar, let me dedicate a little rhyme that anybody can sing on their own time.
"Twinkle, Twinkle Monkeypaw.
How I wonder who you are.
Up above, way up high.
Like a spaceship in the sky.
Twinkle, Twinkle Monkeypaw.
Wish you were Korean Superstar".
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2561572]The girl in your Korean Superstar video is old news. She looks a bit worn from the time she was a cherry girl and Monkeypaw had the "privilege" of breaking her in a few times, when she had more of a fresh and innocent look. Not sure how dated that video is, but from the looks of it, all the freshness has gone out of the bag. The potato chips look a tad stale, but I guess, she is still OK for some like your Korean Superstar. Back then, the Paw was a bad fingerling and she was one of my BBFS CIP conquests. Thank God, nothing horrible came out of it and I was shown the light. The Heavens opened up and Monkeypaw was given the gift of being able to cum inside a condom without any difficulty. Whoo hoo!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzPb5AM0qw[/URL]
(Speaking of condoms, here's a Monkeypaw secret to share, OLO 30 count 001 condoms for 65 baht or $2 is a cheap bargain. I go through 3 boxes of 10 each in about 2 months. They work great, especially with my secret "gel" that I already reported on awhile back in case anybody needs that extra help to RTFF. However, if there is some disbelief about the Paw's gift or the quality of the cheap OLO 001 condoms, I've frozen a couple of already used and filled ones along with my mini-paws, which is high minerals like zinc, magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Literally, the proof is the Paw's pudding and they are ready to ship to BKK for inspection, just PM me).
Now back to your Korean SuperStar, let me dedicate a little rhyme that anybody can sing on their own time.
"Twinkle, Twinkle Monkeypaw.
How I wonder who you are.
Up above, way up high.
Like a spaceship in the sky.
Twinkle, Twinkle Monkeypaw.
Wish you were Korean Superstar".[/QUOTE]Ah Ha! The UTR girl from the Terminal 21 cosmetic shop! Not as nice looking now. Thanks for the update.
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Effectives
Dr Sumaiya Shaikh.
At Neurophysik.
7 h.
New preprint data from the UK reveals efficacy of vaccines against Indian & UK variants.
After 2 doses.
1. Pfizer: 88% effective against be. 1617.2.
93% effective against be. 117.
2. AstraZeneca / Covishield: Only 60% effective against be. 1617.2.
66% effective against be. 117.
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Hong Kong has nearly 2 million Pfizer vaccines that are nearing expiry since HK people refuse to be vaccinated. Why can't Thailand secure those 2 million doses?
Put them in freezers, load them on a plane, and Thailand can have them tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2563658]Hong Kong has nearly 2 million Pfizer vaccines that are nearing expiry since HK people refuse to be vaccinated. Why can't Thailand secure those 2 million doses?
Put them in freezers, load them on a plane, and Thailand can have them tomorrow.[/QUOTE]As of now the Pfizer vaccine has not been approved for use in Thailand: [URL]https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/country/thailand/[/URL].
IMO Thailand should contact the United States about the 60+ million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine they are sitting on.
SL.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2564274]As of now the Pfizer vaccine has not been approved for use in Thailand:[/QUOTE]Moderna isn't on the list and it was approved bu Thailand on May 13. So will the Pfizer vaccine be recognized as someone being fully vaccinated for the Thailand vaccine passport?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2563339]Upon arrival in Krabi airport, <snip> I flagged someone and showed them my CDC vaccination card, and they waved me through.[/QUOTE]Explorer, was the vaccine card you showed in Krabi for Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, Sinovac, JJ, or something else? One or two doses?
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There are articles each morning here in Thailand personally I would take it with a grain of salt! Forget you heard it from a friend and so forth. Each day you get an announcement by someone in government that basically doesn't have any final say whatsoever the next someone else says something different that includes the PM himself. One day they announced they have things in control, enough beds, and equipment, then you got websites are being set up for foreigners and they can start to sign up for the free vaccine then the next it is gone!
Now mass vaccination is being set for June 7th, everyone can sign up for their appointments yet the other day they don't have enough available whatever AZ they have on hand the second shot will be spread out to 14-16 weeks so more can get the first. There are also reports by some farangs confirming appointments for the Moderna when it was stated they are still in negotiation and even if a final price was determined they are months on the waiting list at best stated in October.
Then put on the thinking cap and try to figure Pfizer placed a request 3 months ago for approval by their FDA for approval yet Moderna has been approved so has J&J who put in their request after Pfizer. You got basically one of the best vaccines out there WTF are they studying?
As for Passport Vaccine, there isn't officially such a thing approved by the government it has only been thrown out as a suggestion. They have suggested now that they are rolling out the Sino and whatever AZ is available to the population that once you obtain the two doses they will provide some evidence so you can run around Thailand freely again this is just another suggestion.
Personally, where are we today here in Thailand on a personal note! When you look at the infection rate daily the 2000 plus is the new norm (I don't count the other 2000 in Jail) I've said this day was coming so get ready for it but no Thailand leaders continue to brag built roads all over Thailand particularly in Chon Buri instead of getting their hands on vaccines even the wife and daughter-in-law today driving around and around trying to find a road that wasn't closed due to construction ***** that they have all this money but yet no vaccine. Rarely do I ever hear any praise for the USA Except when I give them baht 555 wish they could visit the USA Now so they can get their FREE vaccine. Even they know you can just walk into Walgreen.
Right now I've stopped worrying about whether I can get the vaccine as far as I'm concerned Thais and anyone who wants it can get jab with the Sino or AZ, I won't stand in their way or ***** about them not giving me any priority I will continue to do what has gotten me this far wear a mask and keep my distance from people I don't know and that is easy living here as a foreigner. The leaders of this country can no longer close off and isolate themselves like in the beginning because there are now vaccines whether proven / problems it is their only solution they are after herd immunity and I agree something is better than nothing without a shot for myself herd immunity for the Thai population, in theory, should get me by until I get a vaccine of my choice.
In the end, I hope the Sino and AZ work well enough that it reduces the infection rate and give the leaders of this country the confidence to allow travel into their country without going through all the hoops of obtaining a COE, Insurance, and quarantine that is the type of Passport ideally what every traveler wants only then will Airlines start to schedule flights regularly into Thailand. This goes the same for places like Singapore, Taiwan, Japan with vaccines in sight lockdowns are no longer a real option.
Here is an announcement or rumor flooding around Thai social media today that the leader of this country is trying to figure out how to keep it under wraps? The current K--g is rumor to be dead?
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For the first time since 2015 I was looking into a major escort city I was thinking of visiting soon and I saw something I have never seen before. Even dumber than buying drinks for Soi 6 girls online, escorts are now selling virtual dates online! Here's the kicker. Cost is over 10,000 baht per hour for an online date! Have guys gone insane during COVID?
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Long Time?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565382]For the first time since 2015 I was looking into a major escort city I was thinking of visiting soon and I saw something I have never seen before. Even dumber than buying drinks for Soi 6 girls online, escorts are now selling virtual dates online! Here's the kicker. Cost is over 10,000 baht per hour for an online date! Have guys gone insane during COVID?[/QUOTE]That sounds fun, do they do long time? Threesomes? How about Connect 4, how is that managed? Dominatrixes in Spain are using some stupid game to get their marks to take out the garbage, clean the virtual house etc. I am doing my garden (in real time). Time to holster pedrito.
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Heading for a shock
Opening all these businesses will take whole of money for a trickle of tourists. And planes for long haul will be mothballed for ages until short haul is firmy established. Crews and planes will need a lot of cash to get going again. And there won't be any business and first class pax for years. So just a trickle of economy pax won't make any money for airlines.
So Thais are going to get a nasty shock at the small numbers of backpackers who turn up with little money to spend.
Most of Europe has no chance of long haul as its all off limits for even short haul for this summer to Spanish beaches.
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Klong toei. Vaccination
Was interesting to see the Klong Toei vaccination site in the Tesco shopping center car park today. Looked to be a few hundred people there lining up and getting jabbed. Apparently they are looking at getting all slum residents jabbed there over the next few weeks. Looked much the same as western countries vaccination sites.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565382]Cost is over 10,000 baht per hour for an online date! Have guys gone insane during COVID?[/QUOTE]That's solid money by anyone's standards. Time to dust off my wig and heels.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2564423]
In the end, I hope the Sino and AZ work well enough that it reduces the infection rate and give the leaders of this country the confidence to allow travel into their country without going through all the hoops of obtaining a COE, Insurance, and quarantine that is the type of Passport ideally what every traveler wants only then will Airlines start to schedule flights regularly into Thailand. This goes the same for places like Singapore, Taiwan, Japan with vaccines in sight lockdowns are no longer a real option.
[/QUOTE]I don't know how about other places but there is one big mess in Taiwan right now. Looks like the only one plan of government is to keep the country closed and force people to stay at home. Due to a very agressive politics toward China they have a huge problem to get vaccines. Chinese proposed to send sinovac but the answer was: "we don't want, we don't need"; you even could found info on internet that Chinese vaccines will depopulate Taiwan and, in fact, the vaccine is a weapon against "Taiwan democracy".
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[QUOTE=Tabasco72;2565641]I don't know how about other places but there is one big mess in Taiwan right now. Looks like the only one plan of government is to keep the country closed and force people to stay at home. Due to a very agressive politics toward China they have a huge problem to get vaccines. Chinese proposed to send sinovac but the answer was: "we don't want, we don't need"; you even could found info on internet that Chinese vaccines will depopulate Taiwan and, in fact, the vaccine is a weapon against "Taiwan democracy".[/QUOTE]Let me be very clear! My opinion is just that based on what I read and conclude. What this pandemic has shown is it is all political! When it comes to China once wonders how quickly they came out with the Sino yet the entire country is still in lockdown mode, citizens wearing a mask, social distance, it is only now they are starting to mass vaccination.
When it comes to Taiwan it is an island like Australia it is much easier to close down your borders and they have been successful in doing so but remember it has been over a year and with the vaccine in sight they can't continue down this path (which is what I mean) continue to keep it close and hope for the best while people and the economy suffer. With Taiwan, it is all politics when it comes to them not accepting the Chinese vaccine I agree it is noted heavily in your response but nevertheless, when it comes to Taiwan the solution is getting a vaccine which like Thailand started a bit too late. Their lack of progress is not only local politics but world where those who want to help don't because they owe China.
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[QUOTE=Tabasco72;2565641]but there is one big mess in Taiwan right now. [/QUOTE]Who is keeping EVA Air afloat? They must be going bankrupt soon since we can't even use EVA Air for a stopover to change planes to Thailand.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565724]Who is keeping EVA Air afloat? They must be going bankrupt soon since we can't even use EVA Air for a stopover to change planes to Thailand.[/QUOTE]I know the station manager in SFO with Eva, I consider them to be one of the top airlines in the world they certainly are 360 from China Airlines they are not government-run and have a strong management team. Although they have lost passenger revenue by 80% they have made a lot of it up by carrying cargo which in 2020 range like 50 billion. Many of the planes still operating they have even taken seat out so they can carry cargo and belly load by hand much of the added cargo that doesn't need to be in containers. They also have renegotiated many of their contracts with employees. Vendors especially with Boeing to lessen the financial impact they also have a domestic market, unlike Cathay and certainly no Thai Airways!
I use them exclusively from SFO, although I have flight benefits I usually buy online pre-covid fare from Bangkok I usually could get a round trip for under 30,000 baht fares are now running close to 50,000 baht roundtrip a few months down the road since Cathay has stopped operating out of HK to SFO no competition the fare goes up so hopefully when things get better and Cathay comes back online that might bring prices down a bit prior fares from BKK-HK-SFO ran at 27,000 baht round trip the departure and arrival times to SFO were close and competitive.
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EVA Airways
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2565823] "...I know the station manager in SFO with Eva, I consider them to be one of the top airlines in the world... Although they have lost passenger revenue by 80% they have made a lot of it up by carrying cargo...". [/QUOTE]Indeed. I am a big fan of EVA. Started using EVA 20 years ago out of LAX, but in the last 10 years have been flying out of SFO. Great departure, transit, and arrival times. Pre-COVID fares competitive. Excellent service from check in to boarding and throughout my flights. Service and food is very good. Not allowing transit pax in Taipei is going to keep putting a huge hole in their income. I flew China Airlines once. Don't know if I'd fly it again if it was free. 555 Let's face it, we don't fly to get 5* meals on a plane. But I've been going biz class for many years. The food on China Airlines was (charitably) almost inedible. I usually fly into Phnom Penh or BKK. Fortunately, there are many alternatives to EVA when things open up. I might miss the EVA level of travel, but the prices I see for late 2021 and 2022 for EVA are beyond belief!
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Karen
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2561360]Please send him 10 usd a month so that he can take his showers at home instead of at the pool. If you really want to help make it 15 so he can turn on the AC as well. He's not really lowering his footprint by showering and using the AC somewhere else he's just getting someone else to foot the bill. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627] SNIP...Every morning, I take my first shower of the day using the public showers by the swimming pool... By the way, my current rent where I am at is only $330, but here's the kicker. That price includes electric and water. So why do I not run the AC as often to keep myself comfortable or take showers in my room? I do this, unknowingly to my landlord and his family, so they can keep more of the rent I pay them... SNIP.[/QUOTE]Okay Karen. What part of what "my rent includes electric and water" did you not understand? Imagine that, Monkeypaw pays rent for the condo, but is not allowed to use the pool shower at same condominium complex. Other renters can, but Karen here, thinks I should "take my showers at home. " How does that even make sense? You do know it is basic common courtesy and hygienic, to shower before and after, you use the swimming pool, right? And if the pool has showers, you would think I should be able to use it. What are you going to say now? "Monkeypaw, you didn't mention you were using the swimming pool. " That right there fits the bill of a Karen. Thinking I or anybody has to explain to you why they are using a pool shower at their own complex or even if it's not. Bet you've call the cops on people who you thought didn't belong in the neighborhood right? I used to think those FB Karen videos were staged. Can't believe I made wasted my bandwidth, just because you didn't bother to read. Feel free to insert another quarter and play again.
Anyways, has anyone notice how much my milky white skin is tanning up since I've been in Pattaya this long? And I've been using lotion with sunscreen in it, so I dunno WTF. And that's not the lotion on her ass by the way. Also, I hate it when the girls advertise long hair on TF, and arrive in a bun. Wonder does that count a bait and switch? Then they leave all that loose hair for me to clean up. This is why I stay alone and God has an Archeia waiting for me, whose hair won't fall out. LOL.
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2565832]but the prices I see for late 2021 and 2022 for EVA are beyond belief![/QUOTE]Yep airfare prices are definitely higher than normal now unless you are looking at 2+ stops. I will always book the fewest stops possible as I hate waiting at airports. Been looking to fly to Europe or Asia going to whichever opens up first. Don't care if it's a hobby destination. Just need to travel! My top 5 airlines are Cathay, EVA, Singapore, KLM, and Lufthansa. I also enjoy flying Thai Smile because no one flies that airline.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2565870]Okay Karen. What part of what "my rent includes electric and water" did you not understand? Imagine that, Monkeypaw pays rent for the condo, but is not allowed to use the pool shower at same condominium complex. Other renters can, but Karen here, thinks I should "take my showers at home. " How does that even make sense? You do know it is basic common courtesy and hygienic, to shower before and after, you use the swimming pool, right? And if the pool has showers, you would think I should be able to use it. What are you going to say now? "Monkeypaw, you didn't mention you were using the swimming pool. " That right there fits the bill of a Karen. Thinking I or anybody has to explain to you why they are using a pool shower at their own complex or even if it's not. Bet you've call the cops on people who you thought didn't belong in the neighborhood right? I used to think those FB Karen videos were staged. Can't believe I made wasted my bandwidth, just because you didn't bother to read. Feel free to insert another quarter and play again.
Anyways, has anyone notice how much my milky white skin is tanning up since I've been in Pattaya this long? And I've been using lotion with sunscreen in it, so I dunno WTF. And that's not the lotion on her ass by the way. Also, I hate it when the girls advertise long hair on TF, and arrive in a bun. Wonder does that count a bait and switch? Then they leave all that loose hair for me to clean up. This is why I stay alone and God has an Archeia waiting for me, whose hair won't fall out. LOL.[/QUOTE]Very nice pictures. Did you hide the cam? Or your lady was ok you do a movie? If you hide the cam can you tell me how you do?
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2565832]the prices I see for late 2021 and 2022 for EVA are beyond belief![/QUOTE]There is no conceivable reason to buy a ticket to Thailand for late 2021 or 2022 right now. Capacity is not constrained, and won't be for a long, long time on most routes.
Even in normal times, it would be too early to buy. Airlines tend not to upload promo fares until 6-3 months before the flight (for long-haul, usually less time for regional or domestic). Covid changed the game, all bets are off, but you obviously aren't getting a deal by taking that extra risk of buying far in advance.
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You have not been able to even transit thru Taiwan since late 2020.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2565947]There is no conceivable reason to buy a ticket to Thailand for late 2021 or 2022 right now. Capacity is not constrained, and won't be for a long, long time on most routes.
Even in normal times, it would be too early to buy. Airlines tend not to upload promo fares until 6-3 months before the flight (for long-haul, usually less time for regional or domestic). Covid changed the game, all bets are off, but you obviously aren't getting a deal by taking that extra risk of buying far in advance.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.boca.gov.tw/cp-220-5081-c06dc-2.html[/URL]
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Karen, umm, OK
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2565870]Okay Karen. What part of what "my rent includes electric and water" did you not understand? [/QUOTE]I understood all of it, here's the logic behind the $20 donation, take it and give it to your landlord, that way you can have showers in your condo and turn the AC on so he and your utilities would be covered. No need to take showers at the pool or a get good deep sleep at the kids play area at the mall to save it for him.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2565870]Imagine that, Monkeypaw pays rent for the condo, but is not allowed to use the pool shower at same condominium complex. Other renters can, but Karen here, thinks I should "take my showers at home. " How does that even make sense? You do know it is basic common courtesy and hygienic, to shower before and after, you use the swimming pool, right? And if the pool has showers, you would think I should be able to use it. What are you going to say now? "Monkeypaw, you didn't mention you were using the swimming pool. " That right there fits the bill of a Karen. Thinking I or anybody has to explain to you why they are using a pool shower at their own complex or even if it's not.[/QUOTE]You're right, you do not have to explain anything, you already did a good job of that here:
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627] So why do I not run the AC as often to keep myself comfortable or take showers in my room? I do this, unknowingly to my landlord and his family, so they can keep more of the rent I pay them.[/QUOTE]You do understand that as a condo owner and renter, your landlord is by all measures well off. Imagine his wife went to the mall and wanted to leave her kids at the play place and found you sleeping there in order to save them the $20 utility bill. She would either demand that her husband lowers the rent or charge you utility bills separately so you do not have to put yourself through that and the kids around the neighborhood can have their play area back without having to see an adult expat (monger) sleeping there.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627]Bet you've call the cops on people who you thought didn't belong in the neighborhood right? I used to think those FB Karen videos were staged. Can't believe I made wasted my bandwidth, just because you didn't bother to read.[/QUOTE]What? Anyway if I saw an adult male sleeping in the kids play area of the mall every other day, I just may call security because its not really a place where you want to see a monger hanging out and taking naps.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2559627]Feel free to insert another quarter and play again.[/QUOTE]Will probably pass because its only worth paying for if it was challenging.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2565870]Anyways, has anyone notice how much my milky white skin is tanning up since I've been in Pattaya this long? And I've been using lotion with sunscreen in it, so I dunno WTF. And that's not the lotion on her ass by the way. [/QUOTE]Don't think anyone here noticed the tanning of your "milky white skin". Cute girl by the way, did you invite her for a 'dip in the pool' before and after so you can save a dollar for your landlord. Imagine she knew you do that type of thing. She would give you a pitty fuck so you can take the 1 k baht saved and pay for 3 months worth of utilities.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2565938]If you hide the cam can you tell me how you do?[/QUOTE]He leaves it in the hallway, since he keeps his door open to cool the room to save his landlord power costs, no girl would ever find it there because they would not for the life of them fathom why anyone would do that. There would be no need to have 'game' anymore since there would be a line of girls outside the front door offering freebies as pity fucks for the kind hearted monger trying to save lunch money for the condo owners kids by leaving his AC off, front door open and getting some real sleep at the AC cooled local kids play place.
Some of your posts are good paw, and I can say that I have picked some tips from some of them, but others are just Ludicrous, like me being a Karen for suggesting you pay an extra $20 to turn your AC on and have a shower at your place whenever you want. If your landlord is including your utilities in your rent he has himself and his family covered. If your post is real your putting yourself through a lot of trouble for no reason at all.
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Desperation sets in
Thais are getting really desperate now.
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1219550-tat-proposes-attracting-a-million-foreigners-work-with-no-work-permit-right-to-buy-land-ten-year-stay/[/URL]
All bonkers.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2564339]Moderna isn't on the list and it was approved bu Thailand on May 13. So will the Pfizer vaccine be recognized as someone being fully vaccinated for the Thailand vaccine passport?
Explorer, was the vaccine card you showed in Krabi for Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, Sinovac, JJ, or something else? One or two doses?[/QUOTE]Two doses of Moderna. I am fully vaccinated.
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$100 a Virtual / non Virtuous Look on FB
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/2111007162548117/videos/536367547403582[/URL]
She has a nice rack but I wouldrn't pay $100 for the real thing to a Thai, never mind a squint via FB.
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The Mirror
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2559130]So you would use your being "highly skilled in empathy" to make her complicit in your theft by not reporting it to management? What a guy![/QUOTE]Don't say anything about the $7 Billion Radisson Blu charging 600 baht for breakfast. The cancerous charred meat they grill up and serve. The abuse and torture of animals for the food on the buffet. The hefty price of $150 a night for a room to sleep in. The poor migrant labor to build their hotels. The lawsuits by their employees for unpaid wages. But, yet you whine and complain about how a kind hearted, homeless guy like Monkeypaw is committing theft by not paying for his healthy egg white and mushroom omelet, whole grain croissant, and fruit bowl with OJ? Now, I totally understand why some people look confused and don't quite understand the plot when they watch Robin Hood, Zorro, or V for Vendetta. The really don't understand the concept of greater good and lesser evil. Welcome to the other side! My Father always told me that it all begun with two sides, when it came down to the only Great War that ever matter.
[QUOTE=TConor;2560950]SNIP... What I am trying to say is I admit we all have certain rights, like what kind of life style we choose to live. But please do not romanticize a life style that could only badly influence gullible Eurotrash, Cheap Charlies from down under, and scum bum types from North America and Russia. Plenty of us have worked our asses off for 30,40 even 50 years to retire with a standard of living befitting our hard work and goals... SNIP.[/QUOTE]Sorry Martin Luther, but do you think of me as a mere peasant because of my lifestyle? Actually, I am a prince. Not the same type of "prince" that you have down here on Earth, not the ones you read about in history, who comes from royalty. But I am different kind of Prince in my little own fairy tale world. Know what I mean jelly bean? And you probably, don't think much of me. But no, I am not at all a peasant. Instead, Monkeypaw is just a pleasant mother pheasant plucker. What I mean is that I'm a mother pheasant plucker. I pluck mother pheasants. I'm the most pleasant peasant, mother pheasant plucker, that's ever plucked mother pheasants. But actually, I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm a pheasant plucker's son. I'm only plucking pheasants til the pheasant plucker comes. If you are still confused, see for yourself. I am a Prince.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCUnq63waI&t=3s[/URL]
They whine when Monkeypaw spent 30,000 baht in single night at Sapphire Club ringing the bell. Then they whine even more, when the same homeless and jobless, Monkeypaw, collects SNAP Food Benefits, and gets boxes of Kraft Mac and Cheese cargo shipped to him every month from across the world. So who is like a hungry Quasimodo? Get back with the Paw, when you understand who or what I am.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2565938]Very nice pictures. Did you hide the cam? Or your lady was ok you do a movie? If you hide the cam can you tell me how you do?[/QUOTE]What cam? I don't see no cam. The girls don't see no cam. So what cam are you talking about? But if you ever wanted to set up one, follow the same instructions given to the Hokey Pokey. Works like a charm every time. But what I have noticed on ISG, is that the pics with my dicks get more views than the others. Seriously, Chris Hansen.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567585]Remember the Korean guys you tube vid I recommend. The one where he got upset because I didn't post URL.
Maybe he likes my tastes in Bargirls.[/QUOTE]Saw your Korean Superstar at Hooters off Beach Road, sitting by himself and talking to himself, during their 50% off between 3-4 PM happy hour. Across the beach, was the same crazy homeless chubby Thai chick wearing the same pink shorts for over 15 months, doing the same. Sitting by herself and talking to herself. World is full of crazies. Some get paid for it. Some don't. But remember, if you know you are crazy, then that makes you "not" crazy. Good advice from someone who has been on the inside and was still able to pass a lie detector test, while lying his ass off and both MMPI 1 & 2 tests. The Board wouldn't license me unless I was able to pass them. System failures means Monkeypaw redemption. Who is like George Washington with a hatchet?
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2566125]SNIP... You do understand that as a condo owner and renter, your landlord is by all measures well off What? Anyway if I saw an adult male sleeping in the kids play area of the mall every other day, I just may call security because its not really a place where you want to see a monger hanging out and taking naps... SNIP[/QUOTE]While shaving my balls the other day, I had an epiphany. I thought landlord just meant who the rent was paid to, not the owner. So there may be some confusion. The Thai family that takes care of this unit and the other in the same complex aren't the owners. The legal owner is some Australian guy stuck back in his home country, unable to leave. He used this Thai guy and his wife as "agents" for AirBnB to rent out his two rooms for vacationers. I used to book these rooms via their website in the past. So a handful of months ago, when the Thai agent saw me, we made a side deal, unknown to the owner, for about 11,000 baht a month (all inclusive). Just cash, a promise to keep it between us, and for me to take care of the place. So I am really proud of myself and of my image portrayed to others. This guy is trustworthy, dependable, and is on the side of "good. " Help a local family in need during times like these. I even taught him how to rip off about 3000 baht worth of groceries for a a couple of hundred every month. Food should be free anyways. How good am I? Also, I didn't noticed you or anybody else talk about the complex collecting their fees, but still shut down all the amenities like the pool, gym, sauna. There isn't any ordinance. But you want to gripe about Monkeypaw getting free air con from the hallway by opening a door? Sneaky devil, right? Makes people confuse about right and wrong all the time. Once again. Remember, greater good and lesser of two evils.
Be careful and do some soul searching to make sure you are not on the side of the power, the man, or the system. The world is a very bad place. The entire system is broke. Like I said, fuck the system, fuck the police, fuck rules and regulations. And find your own way in this world, in which everybody is a thief. This is how hell works, but everyone is so quick to blame and judge. So who is like Ali Baba? Because you are a fan of some of my insightful posts, I will share with you a bit of knowledge. Karen and Karen situations are often used to point out the gleam and shine coming from the armors of White Knights. Unwritten rule in life, not just in prison or in the mafia, is that if the situation doesn't involve you, or can come back to bite you in the ass, or serves a greater good or greater purpose, then as a third party to the situation, you leave it alone. Watch and learn.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=-xWLUDKlr1Y[/URL]
Seeing a grown man taking a nap in an empty kids play area (yeah, you saw the pic, and it was empty), inside an empty RGP mall, is a situation that really has to do nothing with any of the above exceptions. Calling the security guard makes no sense to any of my given exceptions I allowed you. You might want to put up the tights and cape, and don back the Clark Kent outfit. Save that shit for a real emergency situation, requiring a real super hero. Rule of thumb, is if you have caution and not the guts to do it yourself, don't be like the Lion of Oz, and get others caught up in your own personal agenda. Next thing you know, you will be snitching on grown ups who use the slides or swings at parks. May run into Hasbullah Magomedov one day, get confused, and who knows? And if this is not about other adults, but just Monkeypaw. Then feel free to admit it was just about me all this time. Something about this care free lifestyle, bucking against the system, going against the grain, that irks the hell out of some people, right? I behave like I do, and yet the rewards are still so righteous. Just think. So if we are in the Matrix, who is like Neo, and who is not?
P.S. Nothing personal to alll, just trying to teach some "street smarts and game" to those who want to grow their spirit. There is no definitive link between book smarts and wisdom. Wisdom is what you are striving for. It should be what we are all striving for, period.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2568057]Don't say anything about the $7 Billion Radisson Blu charging 600 baht for breakfast. The cancerous charred meat they grill up and serve. The abuse and torture of animals for the food on the buffet. The hefty price of $150 a night for a room to sleep in. The poor migrant labor to build their hotels. The lawsuits by their employees for unpaid wages. But, yet you whine and complain about how a kind hearted, homeless guy like Monkeypaw is committing theft by not paying for his healthy egg white and mushroom omelet, whole grain croissant, and fruit bowl with OJ? Now, I totally understand why some people look confused and don't quite understand the plot when they watch Robin Hood, Zorro, or V for Vendetta. The really don't understand the concept of greater good and lesser evil. Welcome to the other side! My Father always told me that it all begun with two sides, when it came down to the only Great War that ever matter.
Sorry Martin Luther, but do you think of me as a mere peasant because of my lifestyle? Actually, I am a prince. Not the same type of "prince" that you have down here on Earth, not the ones you read about in history, who comes from royalty. But I am different kind of Prince in my little own fairy tale world. Know what I mean jelly bean? And you probably, don't think much of me. But no, I am not at all a peasant. Instead, Monkeypaw is just a pleasant mother pheasant plucker. What I mean is that I'm a mother pheasant plucker. I pluck mother pheasants. I'm the most pleasant peasant, mother pheasant plucker, that's ever plucked mother pheasants. But actually, I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm a pheasant plucker's son. I'm only plucking pheasants til the pheasant plucker comes. If you are still confused, see for yourself. I am a Prince.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCUnq63waI&t=3s[/URL]
They whine when Monkeypaw spent 30,000 baht in single night at Sapphire Club ringing the bell. Then they whine even more, when the same homeless and jobless, Monkeypaw, collects SNAP Food Benefits, and gets boxes of Kraft Mac and Cheese cargo shipped to him every month from across the world. So who is like a hungry Quasimodo? Get back with the Paw, when you understand who or what I am.
What cam? I don't see no cam. The girls don't see no cam. So what cam are you talking about? But if you ever wanted to set up one, follow the same instructions given to the Hokey Pokey. Works like a charm every time. But what I have noticed on ISG, is that the pics with my dicks get more views than the others. Seriously, Chris Hansen..[/QUOTE]I get it you are Alexandria Cortez type, anti capitalist.
But when making arguments keep it Real.
Blu Radisson did not cost $7 billion.
Hahaha.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2568798]Contrary to popular belief once open the nightlife will Boom immediately. Las Vegas is out of this world Booming right now.[/QUOTE]I was thinking of going in 2 weeks. Were you just there? How have the strip clubs been since May 1? How closely are they monitoring the 3 foot rule? By saying booming are you referring to P4P, strip clubs, visitors to Cirque du Soleil, buffets have reopened, poker tables full? Please clarify.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2568798]Think of those horny Japan salarymen, their bank accounts are overflowing waiting to be spent on light skin pretty Thai girls.[/QUOTE]
The average wage of the Japanese (or Korean) salary man is likely much lower than you think. Coupled with the high cost of housing their disposable income is very low compared to the average American.
Bit Siri
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2569214]I was thinking of going in 2 weeks. Were you just there? How have the strip clubs been since May 1? How closely are they monitoring the 3 foot rule? By saying booming are you referring to P4P, strip clubs, visitors to Cirque du Soleil, buffets have reopened, poker tables full? Please clarify.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]I thought you were pulling my genitals with all your when were you there inquisitions.
I won't go into too much detail as I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase.
Venetian just concluded a 2,700 player poker tournament. So there must be action.
Wynn is opening up Buffet soon. Pretty sure most are not running yet but I assure you they will be. People love it.
P4P. To me since experiencing Bangkok I lost all interest in Vegas.
3 foot rule enforced? Doubt it.
They are adding shows as I speak.
Last there January 2021.
But I follow it close. I have assets in Vegas.
Will be there soon. Just need to get my teeth cleaning done. On waiting list to get it even sooner.
My last month in Pattaya December 2019. Last in Bangkok January 2020.
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Las Vegas
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2569214]I was thinking of going in 2 weeks. Were you just there? How have the strip clubs been since May 1? How closely are they monitoring the 3 foot rule? By saying booming are you referring to P4P, strip clubs, visitors to Cirque du Soleil, buffets have reopened, poker tables full? Please clarify.[/QUOTE]Was there last week on weekdays. I don't do strip clubs but I can tell you the city is hopping with visitors. Some casinos haven't opened all of their gambling tables but there are plenty of people gambling. Most of the showrooms are open now. Overall Mon-Thursday almost looked like a weekend crowd. I did visit an AMP but didn't find anything special there. A lot of people have cash to spend now thanks to unemployment bonuses.
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Beauty, the Beast, and the Rest of the Universe
[QUOTE=TConor;2563973]There is a street in Montrose (Houston) named after the town a one time Mayor's mother came from. Tuam.[/QUOTE]A couple of blocks away, there was eccentric after hours nightclub called "Numbers".
Speaking of numbers, a long time ago I wrote about the 66 and 666, numbers always coming into my life. When we lived in St. Louis, with the "Arch," but I am often reminded in my case, it is pronounced ""Ark," had Route 66 run right through it. The first two digits of our address where I grew up was 66. The 3 digits after the area code on our phone was 999 (666 not allowed in USA). Thailand's country code, where I am at today, is +66. I get this email the other day with 66 and 666 specials from TOPS. And who could ever forget the 666 shadow from my taxi ride awhile back. Guess this devil won't ever let me go, but thank God I am who I am, right? So many times, when I wander late at night near Kophai, those packs of territorial Soi dogs charge, growl, and bark. Monkeypaw just looks straight ahead, keeps calm, and struts at the same pace. Too bad I don't know how to whistle or I would. And trust me, those dogs get close enough to sniff, but have yet to bite. I think ice water runs through my veins. Guided, protected, aura? Cesar Milan would be proud.
And remember Monkeypaw's post #1180 entitled "Chaos before 69" in this same thread? Well 69th (was delayed a year) just happened a few weeks ago. So are we nearing this time for big change? Anyways, Andrea Meza (Mexico) took the crown, Julia Gama (Brazil) was first runner up, and Janick Maceta (Peru) was 2nd runner up. But Monkeypaw's top 3 is different. Winner Alina Sanko (Russia). First runner up Thuzar Wint Lwin (Myanmar). Second runner up Maria Thattil (Australia). Honorable mentions goes to Cristiana Silva (Portugal) and Adline Castelino (India). Reminder to Google image search to see all angles of the 69th Miss Universe ladies, than what the article shows. Does Monkeypaw still have that third eye?
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/celebrities/2021/05/16/miss-universe-2021-photos-all-74-contestants-including-miss-usa/5119945001/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2568642]SNIP...
Do I need to worry about the Mafia moving in or do I just carry on without a care in the world?
I'm asking because a youtber who has been in Pattaya says no such thing as Mafia in Pattaya.
Kind of like the Mayor saying no Prostitution there either.[/QUOTE]Not sure what people think mafia is or is not. Hopefully, it's not from the movies. Real mafia knows how to blend in. When Pattaya is full of crowds and weekend millionaires, they become weekend millionaires. When Pattaya is not, then they become Cheap Charlies. This is how they are successful, playing chameleon, playing spy, and traveling. Own nothing, but still live a lifestyle of freedom that others envy. Just be smart about it. Hotels and Uber Black versus a mansion and Ferrari. Blend in, but there is always going to be something special that will separate them from the others. Too bad Pablo Escobar didn't have this wisdom. It's all about "freedom" and having your cake and being able to eat when you want to, of if you don't even want to.
The "Third Eye Bunny" is a famous painting next to the Wave Hotel on Beach Road. Look the hotel sign next to it. Deep Blue Z10. How ironic is that? It's that eye for wisdom, insight, and beauty. Reminds me of the story about Jack Rabbit.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTjPXjm00nw[/URL] (The Jack Rabbit and the Box Turtle).
It's not the same kid story that you've heard before. And the Jack Rabbit's prize for winning? At this point, it is relaxing on Pattaya Beach, sipping a White Russian, with a hint of vanilla. Who is your favorite Playboy? And by night, get a visit from a different kind of white Russian that I met years back for a couple thousand baht. But I guess they are all starving now. She may have worked on Walking Street at Angels or Galaxy, or maybe both. Perhaps Angels from another galaxy?
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2568550]I get it you are Alexandria Cortez type, anti capitalist.
But when making arguments keep it Real.
Blu Radisson did not cost $7 billion.
Hahaha.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. Sorry I missed that. Radisson's revenue was actually closer to 7. 3 billion. I forget that all our minds don't function the same. Some think on a micro level, others on a macro. It's like a chicken, pretending to be a duck, trying to give flight lessons to an eagle on how to soar. Anyways, what the daddy company makes, so gets the son. It's like the trinity thing right? Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? Rad / is / son Blu. So who is the most rad and the coolest son? The Blue is a given.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2563831]Thailand is one of the very few countries I have mongered in in which I got a real girlfriend (not a hooker GF). She was a Buddhist. She introduced me to her parents and siblings and taught me a lot about Thai society. She took me inside the temple with the huge golden statue of Buddha near China town. They are indeed a spiritual people and I have great respect for them.[/QUOTE]Years ago, for a few days, I was a crazed homeless monk in Bangkok hiding from the Lumpini cops. I wore my white robe and slippers from the Maitria Hotel Sukhumvit 18, while roaming the streets and the malls. A girl working as a juice vendor gave me a pomegranate drink by the Exchange Tower, an older farang bought me a watermelon shake at a cafe in the atrium of the Ambassador Hotel, a girl working at a tennis shoes shop in Terminal 21 offered me a free pair of sneakers, and a young Thai guy gave me 20 baht at the bus stop. During that same time, when the devil was also in my head, the Thai police drugged me trying to get payoff (didn't work), a couple of bums tried to rob me at a bus stop while I was trying to sleep, and I got chased by lots of locals who didn't want me in their businesses.
The world opened it up and showed its true nature to me. Back then and even as of now, this world belongs to the evil. This was all a part of my training with the spirit world. It was part of my journey in finding myself. I can tell you now, that spirituality has much to do with the mind. Our actions are not our own. We are controlled by forces greater than ourselves. Be wary of ego, and embrace empathy. And when I mean ego, it may be difficult for some to understand. So they should just focus on greater good and lesser evil. Because the idea of God as almighty, that itself, can be confused when it comes to ego. The mind is the battlefield where spiritual warfare happens. And our wisdom, and being able to act on that wisdom to gain certain rewards in life, dictate which side has the advantage with our soul. I'm just lucky, I am guided in this. Mind, spirit, soul is all in one. This is the "Blue" print I used to understand spirituality. It goes beyond Buddhism, Islam, and Christianity. But the common denominator in most religions or beliefs are spiritual beings called Angels. So, I guess I am not the next great Buddha. Monkeypaw strongly advises this read.
[URL]https://www.quora.com/Does-God-exist/answer/Archangel-Mikhael-1[/URL]
[QUOTE=XXL;2568359]Police put their foot down on Nightwish Group according to a girl who just left my room.[/QUOTE]30 days before you posted this, I said. "I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed ". Who is like Nostrodamus? Or better yet, Who is like God?
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Miss America
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2569933]And remember Monkeypaw's post #1180 entitled "Chaos before 69" in this same thread? Well 69th (was delayed a year) just happened a few weeks ago. So are we nearing this time for big change? Anyways, Andrea Meza (Mexico) took the crown, Julia Gama (Brazil) was first runner up, and Janick Maceta (Peru) was 2nd runner up. But Monkeypaw's top 3 is different. Winner Alina Sanko (Russia). First runner up Thuzar Wint Lwin (Myanmar). Second runner up Maria Thattil (Australia). Honorable mentions goes to Cristiana Silva (Portugal) and Adline Castelino (India). Reminder to Google image search to see all angles of the 69th Miss Universe ladies, than what the article shows. Does Monkeypaw still have that third eye?
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/celebrities/2021/05/16/miss-universe-2021-photos-all-74-contestants-including-miss-usa/5119945001/[/URL][/QUOTE]My choices for Miss Universe are 1) Nepal, 2) China, 3) Uruguay with Miss India being an honorable mention. I hate dealing with the soi dogs but I'm guessing you just keep moving and try not to show fear. You are the boss, not them.
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Thailand finally approves Pfizer so fully vaccinated Americans can now confidently enter Thailand without being afraid of being turned away at Immigration after a 20 hour flight.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2572790]Thailand finally approves Pfizer so fully vaccinated Americans can now confidently enter Thailand without being afraid of being turned away at Immigration after a 20 hour flight.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt that's was Approved means. Hahahaha.
I pray I'm wrong.
Me got two shots of Moderna.
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So what does approval mean?
It means some entity has the Green Light to go make a Boatload of money.
Will it help the situation? Maybe. First things first. Make Boatload of money. LOL.
Thai Visa will give you a sense of what's happening on the Ground. Not good.
One. Thais don't want Sinovac.
Two. The stuff they want just not available.
Appointment s are being cancelled left and right.
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Per AN, there have been 8000 COE applications worldwide for the Phuket sandbox. Some are rejected. Is it me or does 8000 sound extremely low and irrelevant to put even a minute dent in the Thai economy.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2573084]Thai Visa will give you a sense of what's happening on the Ground. Not good.
One. Thais don't want Sinovac.
Two. The stuff they want just not available.[/QUOTE]Three. Thais don't want foreingers there. Or at least that is what the polls reported on Thai Visa say.
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Yep
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2576673]Per AN, there have been 8000 COE applications worldwide for the Phuket sandbox. Some are rejected. Is it me or does 8000 sound extremely low and irrelevant to put even a minute dent in the Thai economy.[/QUOTE]Thailand was pushing 40 million tourists a year in 2019. So 8,000 applications is not a promising start. But it is a start.
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[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2576818]Thailand was pushing 40 million tourists a year in 2019. So 8,000 applications is not a promising start. But it is a start.[/QUOTE]Really not a start.
Start is when you get rid of all the nonsensical paperwork.
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And when they actually.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2576832]Really not a start.
Start is when you get rid of all the nonsensical paperwork.[/QUOTE]Vaccinated people.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2576709]Three. Thais don't want foreingers there. Or at least that is what the polls reported on Thai Visa say.[/QUOTE]True. A few bargirls, taxi drivers and hotel and bar owners might miss what was happening here during "normal" times. But not many other Thais. They get along without us very well thanks.
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Theyre selling water
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2573084] Thais don't want Sinovac..[/QUOTE]Do you blame them?
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/business/economy/china-vaccines-covid-outbreak.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage[/URL]
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Well
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2573084]So what does approval mean?
It means some entity has the Green Light to go make a Boatload of money.
Will it help the situation? Maybe. First things first. Make Boatload of money. LOL.
Thai Visa will give you a sense of what's happening on the Ground. Not good.
One. Thais don't want Sinovac.
Two. The stuff they want just not available.
Appointment s are being cancelled left and right.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/05/opinion/us-china-covid-lies.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage[/URL]
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Pay it Forward
Some of us are blessed with some disposable income while others out there are suffering a lot through these very difficult financial times. This girl saw a lady selling chicken and rice had very poor sales. What did she do? She bought all 140 orders from the vendor and donated the food to the elderly. Cost a mere 12k baht.
Why am I posting this on a sex board? The girl is cute.
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Giving up on Thai medical system
Just finished a video chat with a farm girl in Buriram. Her village has much COVID, but new sick people are neither seeking medical attention nor being tested. A common villager opinion is that the doctors and hospitals have no way of helping COVID patients but might force them to live their final days away from family.
I don't know how widespread these views are held, but it makes me think that the recent new COVID case counts of about 13,000 per day is much less than reality.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2583667]Just finished a video chat with a farm girl in Buriram. Her village has much COVID, but new sick people are neither seeking medical attention nor being tested. A common villager opinion is that the doctors and hospitals have no way of helping COVID patients but might force them to live their final days away from family.
I don't know how widespread these views are held, but it makes me think that the recent new COVID case counts of about 13,000 per day is much less than reality.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. Cases are probably 3 to 5 times higher?
Really difficult to even get tested now, let alone find a hospital bed if you need it.
This is happening not only in Villages, but around greater Bangkok.
Everyone I know either has a family member that is infected or close friends that are infected. Many just ride it out at home and don't seek medical treatment.
It looks like they will have 60% of Bangkok vaccinated with 1 shot over the next 8 weeks. Probably about the same time as this crisis / wave will last.
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Is sinopharm accepted?
I am in China now and the only vaccine I am able to get at the moment is sinopharm. Does anyone know if that is accepted for Thai visas?
On a related note, are other vaccines available there that are not made in China? I would like to get one of the mRNA vaccines, if possible. I was going to do a wellness check in Bangkok after quarantine, so I figured I would get a second type of vaccine at that time, if possible. The China Vaccines are not very effective.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2584013]I am in China now and the only vaccine I am able to get at the moment is sinopharm. Does anyone know if that is accepted for Thai visas?
On a related note, are other vaccines available there that are not made in China? I would like to get one of the mRNA vaccines, if possible. I was going to do a wellness check in Bangkok after quarantine, so I figured I would get a second type of vaccine at that time, if possible. The China Vaccines are not very effective.[/QUOTE]Sinopharm is recognised by Thailand, in fact it is one of 3 currently administered by the Government. The other 2 being Sinovac and Astrazeneca.
MRNA vaccines are not currently available in Thailand to the general public. They are recognised for the purposes of vaccinations and have been imported in very limited supplies but only administered to health workers and well connected government / military types.
There have been mRNA vaccines ordered by the Thai government in larger numbers but these are probably 3 months away as a best case scenario. Think 3 to 6 months as a guide for better availability but even then don't hold you breath.
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Is sinopharm accepted?
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2584107]Sinopharm is recognised by Thailand, in fact it is one of 3 currently administered by the Government. The other 2 being Sinovac and Astrazeneca.
MRNA vaccines are not currently available in Thailand to the general public. They are recognised for the purposes of vaccinations and have been imported in very limited supplies but only administered to health workers and well connected government / military types.
There have been mRNA vaccines ordered by the Thai government in larger numbers but these are probably 3 months away as a best case scenario. Think 3 to 6 months as a guide for better availability but even then don't hold you breath.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I figured that was the case but wanted to check. I read conflicting reports. I might consider getting astrazeneca because I have read having a combo of vaccines is really good. In Europe, some places are using a mix of Pfizer and astrazeneca with good results. I just don't trust the Chinese vaccine at all.
I'm coming for work in Bangkok and I'm trying to figure out if I should go to Phuket first with domestic travel suspended. It would be nice to not be locked in a hotel (I already did 2 weeks in Seoul and 2 weeks in China), but a 15 hour bus ride to Bangkok also doesn't sound fun. Tough call.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2584387]Thanks, I figured that was the case but wanted to check. I read conflicting reports. I might consider getting astrazeneca because I have read having a combo of vaccines is really good. In Europe, some places are using a mix of Pfizer and astrazeneca with good results. I just don't trust the Chinese vaccine at all.
I'm coming for work in Bangkok and I'm trying to figure out if I should go to Phuket first with domestic travel suspended. It would be nice to not be locked in a hotel (I already did 2 weeks in Seoul and 2 weeks in China), but a 15 hour bus ride to Bangkok also doesn't sound fun. Tough call.[/QUOTE]Nok Air are operating limited domestic flights between Phuket and Pattaya.
Pattaya is an hour in a taxi from bkk.
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Getting to BKK
[QUOTE=JJanni;2584535]Nok Air are operating limited domestic flights between Phuket and Pattaya.
Pattaya is an hour in a taxi from bkk.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and to others who responded, as well.
It will be another 3 weeks or so before I can get there, so I hope things are still running at that time. If not, I'll just stay in Phuket at the cheapest place I can find that's clean and try to cultivate contacts on TF. I'm sure I'll post a question or two about which services to use once it gets closer to time. I have read through pages of posts and I see references to Thai Friendly and Line (never heard of it), but there seem to be s few others that are used.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2585291]Line (never heard of it)[/QUOTE]LINE is an instant messenger app. Like WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram. And LINE is by far the most popular in Thailand.
So the idea is when you're chatting to the girls (either face to face or online via Thai Friendly etc) you get their LINE details so you can stay in contact that way.
You can even have the girls display a QR code in the app and you scan it from yours (or vice versa) to simplify adding their details, instead of trying to convey email addresses or phone numbers through a language barrier.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2582218]$500 for a vasectomy, but sex change operations in the USA are free now if you have obamacare? Doesn't seem fair.[/QUOTE]For all of you non Americans out there, this is a hateful right wing lie. You have to pay for Affordable Care Act coverage.
If anyone is interested in an article. [URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/transgender-healthcare-and-health-insurance-4065151[/URL].
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[QUOTE=AmPervert;2587692]For all of you non Americans out there, this is a hateful right wing lie. You have to pay for Affordable Care Act coverage.
If anyone is interested in an article. [URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/transgender-healthcare-and-health-insurance-4065151[/URL].[/QUOTE]Or, an innocent mistake on behalf of the poster? I dunno, neither do you. But you could probably do with some chill.
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I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay $500 for a vasectomy then get a free sex change. .
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2582218]$500 for a vasectomy, but sex change operations in the USA are free now if you have obamacare? Doesn't seem fair.[/QUOTE]
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I'll go with innocent mistake
[QUOTE=CoaxK;2587724]Or, an innocent mistake on behalf of the poster? I dunno, neither do you. But you could probably do with some chill.[/QUOTE]Yes, Smoothy probably simply misread the requirement of payment details when he was researching a sex change operation.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2587807]I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay $500 for a vasectomy then get a free sex change..[/QUOTE]The point is that neither should be free for anyone. Just goes to show you how insane the Democrat party is in the USA.
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[QUOTE=AmPervert;2587692]For all of you non Americans out there, this is a hateful right wing lie. You have to pay for Affordable Care Act coverage.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/transgender-surgery-is-now-free-for-military-thanks-to-biden-executive-order/ar-BB1erGXN[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2589458][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/transgender-surgery-is-now-free-for-military-thanks-to-biden-executive-order/ar-BB1erGXN[/URL][/QUOTE][B]Is Transgender Surgery Now Free for the Military Thanks to Biden Order?
March 2021 internet outrage over a Jan. 25 executive order was more spectacle than substance.[/B]
March 18, 2021.
[URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-executive-order-transgender/[/URL]
[QUOTE]In sum, Bidens executive order of Jan. 25, 2021, overturned a Trump policy severely restricting the options of transgender people serving in the military, which itself overturned policies established under the Obama administration. However, we have found no evidence to confirm or deny the claim that Bidens policy changes will provide free transgender surgery to military members.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show you how desperately deceptive and obsessively focused on sucker social issues the Repub Party is in the USA.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2589565]Just goes to show you how desperately deceptive and obsessively focused on sucker social issues the Repub Party is in the USA.[/QUOTE]Now now ET, Smoothy is simply a god fearing man who reads his bible, watches Fox news and recognizes the treat to the future of the human race from LGBT"s, immigrants, liberals and the main stream media. There is only one man, our savior who was put on earth by god some even say by immaculate conception who is capable of stopping this from happening. Let us pray for him together brothers.
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[QUOTE=AmPervert;2587692]For all of you non Americans out there, this is a hateful right wing lie. You have to pay for Affordable Care Act coverage.
If anyone is interested in an article. [URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/transgender-healthcare-and-health-insurance-4065151[/URL].[/QUOTE]Do you really think any non Americans are interested in all this BS, I just wish it would move to the American politics forum so I wouldn't have to see it.
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Why not object to the original inappropriate post here instead of the response to it?
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2589619]Do you really think any non Americans are interested in all this BS, I just wish it would move to the American politics forum so I wouldn't have to see it.[/QUOTE]Of course, this stuff belongs in the American Politics thread. But why didn't you quote and slam the poster who brought his "obamacare" misrepresentation and political gripe here instead of one of the posters who responded to refute that misrepresentation?
When someone does it this way it looks like they're just chiming in to take sides and hopes to get in the last word in for that side. You know, like it didn't really bother them until it was clear the poster who started it was getting his ass handed to him for it 😉
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2589624] But why didn't you quote and slam the poster who brought his "obamacare" misrepresentation and political gripe here instead of one of the posters who responded to refute that misrepresentation?[/QUOTE]Likely because no one gives a shit about the subject because it belongs in the American Politics thread. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2589624]Of course, this stuff belongs in the American Politics thread. But why didn't you quote and slam the poster who brought his "obamacare" misrepresentation and political gripe here instead of one of the posters who responded to refute that misrepresentation?
When someone does it this way it looks like they're just chiming in to take sides and hopes to get in the last word in for that side. You know, like it didn't really bother them until it was clear the poster who started it was getting his ass handed to him for it 😉[/QUOTE]Because this post was directed at
"For all of you non Americans out there".
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[QUOTE=Jingo10;2589619]Do you really think any non Americans are interested in all this BS, I just wish it would move to the American politics forum so I wouldn't have to see it.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and I'm American. I'm certainly not interested in any of this BS at least not on this site.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2589642]I agree with you and I'm American. I'm certainly not interested in any of this BS at least not on this site.[/QUOTE]Yes. And nobody cares who started it or who's fault it is. Just want it to stop.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2589624]Of course, this stuff belongs in the American Politics thread. But why didn't you quote and slam the poster who brought his "obamacare" misrepresentation and political gripe here instead of one of the posters who responded to refute that misrepresentation?
When someone does it this way it looks like they're just chiming in to take sides and hopes to get in the last word in for that side. You know, like it didn't really bother them until it was clear the poster who started it was getting his ass handed to him for it 😉[/QUOTE]Why don't you just keep on hand working in your basement instead of pursuing your agenda?
This is an international sex forum.
Period.
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[QUOTE=Jingo10;2589631]Because this post was directed at
"For all of you non Americans out there".[/QUOTE]And which part of "obamacare" and the bit about "the Democrat Party in the USA" or which medical procedures the USA military will or will not cover for its members pertains to non Americans here?
There are now 3-4 more objections to that stuff being posted here and so far not one of those has quoted and slammed the poster that started it or even the other poster who apparently defended his post about it, only the posters who handed his ass to him for the effort. Interesting.
At the very least, unless any of you posters objecting to it bothers to quote and slam the poster who started it rather than those who handed his ass to him for starting it then you are only further rewarding posters for starting it.
It's not that complicated a choice to make if you really want to discouage posters from starting it.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2589701]And which part of "obamacare" and the bit about "the Democrat Party in the USA" or which medical procedures the USA military will or will not cover for its members pertains to non Americans here?
There are now 3-4 more objections to that stuff being posted here and so far not one of those has quoted and slammed the poster that started it or even the other poster who apparently defended his post about it, only the posters who handed his ass to him for the effort. Interesting.
At the very least, unless any of you posters objecting to it bothers to quote and slam the poster who started it rather than those who handed his ass to him for starting it then you are only further rewarding posters for starting it.
It's not that complicated a choice to make if you really want to discouage posters from starting it.[/QUOTE]It's simple I'm putting all of you in the same pot with equal blame. The one who started it and also the ones who responded to it. If you hadn't felt the need to have the last word and just not responded instead of as you put it handed his ass to him it would have stopped. If you felt the need to respond you could have responded in the political thread. I guess I could take my own advise and responded to you in the stupid shit thread. LOL.
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I think it's about not being misrepresented
I am an American living abroad and I know I and many of the other Americans working at my business feel the need to push back whenever we see right wing nonsense being spouted by an American. It's about not wanting the beliefs of all Americans being represented by the current republican party, which has lost its mind. These people are the minority, but Trump's election and the news tends to focus attention on the nutcases in that party. They are the minority and they are a decreasing minority as Americans wake up to what they are.
That said, it is annoying to click on a topic hoping to hear about some spinner who will drain your balls dry for 1000 bht and instead read 5 posts about American politics.
I guess I'm saying that I can see both sides. As an American, I don't want right wing lies to show up on an international forum misrepresenting who Americans are, but I also want to read about sex and not politics.
So let's hug it out and move on. Who has some pics?
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2589803]So let's hug it out and move on. Who has some pics?[/QUOTE]Shots from a happier time.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2589803]I am an American living abroad and I know I and many of the other Americans working at my business feel the need to push back whenever we see right wing nonsense being spouted by an American. It's about not wanting the beliefs of all Americans being represented by the current republican party, which has lost its mind. These people are the minority, but Trump's election and the news tends to focus attention on the nutcases in that party. They are the minority and they are a decreasing minority as Americans wake up to what they are.
That said, it is annoying to click on a topic hoping to hear about some spinner who will drain your balls dry for 1000 bht and instead read 5 posts about American politics.
I guess I'm saying that I can see both sides. As an American, I don't want right wing lies to show up on an international forum misrepresenting who Americans are, but I also want to read about sex and not politics.
So let's hug it out and move on. Who has some pics?[/QUOTE]Let me provide my 2 cents or as indicate " push back a bit " as an individual living abroad in Thailand one of the hardest things to leave behind is what one has learned and taken for granted in this case the freedom to speak and push back regardless of one political position or views. Here I get stereotypes I hear stuff from locals and even more from foreigners because they don't think I understand Thai or they think I'm a local. I can walk around all day pissed but you learn how to pick and choose when to speak. Being an Asian American speaking out giving my two cents it takes many people back here because they don't expect it.
Before I continue a reminder a simple push that these threads were created Rant, General, so people can get things off their chest if you don't want to read or be annoyed then as a businessman you should have enough sense to figure out what is the best thread to get your balls drained.
We are all human at times so self-righteous that we want to lecture thereafter do exactly what they are lecturing others not to do! Your views on what Americans like or don't etc etc!
I came here pretty much as far left as you can get particularly in social programs in helping people but I've always felt government doesn't need to spend tax dollars like a drunken sailor that being said that particular view puts in after years more in the middle or moderate as they call us. But unless you live on an island, not every American living abroad is liberal or democrats, and think the way you think when it comes to lies I don't think GOP has a patent on the nonsense that is happening in the country. I don't think left-wing nonsense should also show up misrepresenting Americans which I happen to be one. To be honest the reason we have the mess is that people with your views are so narrow they aren't willing to compromise or see the big picture that they don't live on an island it is my way or the highway.
We got you rant and now you got mines and I think I put it in the right place.
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Oh, but many do care
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2589659]Yes. And nobody cares who started it or who's fault it is. Just want it to stop.[/QUOTE]Now that this has been moved to the "rants" thread, I think it is safe to say some of the posters who avoided quoting and slamming the poster who started it or the poster who first came to his defence but could only muster the interest and nerve to quote and slam those who pushed back and handed his ass to him for it appeared to do it that way only because they agreed with the guy who started it, were fine with his misreprentation of the facts and hated the idea of his poor widow feefees being hurt when he got his ass handed to him for it. LOL.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2589946]Let me provide my 2 cents or as indicate " push back a bit " as an individual living abroad in Thailand one of the hardest things to leave behind is what one has learned and taken for granted in this case the freedom to speak and push back regardless of one political position or views. Here I get stereotypes I hear stuff from locals and even more from foreigners because they don't think I understand Thai or they think I'm a local. I can walk around all day pissed but you learn how to pick and choose when to speak. Being an Asian American speaking out giving my two cents it takes many people back here because they don't expect it.
Before I continue a reminder a simple push that these threads were created Rant, General, so people can get things off their chest if you don't want to read or be annoyed then as a businessman you should have enough sense to figure out what is the best thread to get your balls drained.
We are all human at times so self-righteous that we want to lecture thereafter do exactly what they are lecturing others not to do! Your views on what Americans like or don't etc etc!.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the laugh. If you were paying attention to actual spending, you would know the GOP has spent much more than democrats over the last 30 years, and they've done it mostly on wars and tax breaks, both of which help nobody but rich people. The Trump tax breaks for the middle class quickly expired but those for the rich live on. That was by design.
But it's true that I did not take into account the feelings of conservatives enough when making my post. I guess I would say that democrats are definitely not perfect, but at least they aren't republicans. The honorable republican party, the party that I voted for often when I was younger, is dead.
Also, I'm not a businessman. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was. I just meant business in terms of the place I work.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2590198]Thanks for the laugh. If you were paying attention to actual spending, you would know the GOP has spent much more than democrats over the last 30 years, and they've done it mostly on wars and tax breaks, both of which help nobody but rich people. The Trump tax breaks for the middle class quickly expired but those for the rich live on. That was by design.
But it's true that I did not take into account the feelings of conservatives enough when making my post. I guess I would say that democrats are definitely not perfect, but at least they aren't republicans. The honorable republican party, the party that I voted for often when I was younger, is dead.
Also, I'm not a businessman. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was. I just meant business in terms of the place I work.[/QUOTE]You like many don't seem to understand also thanks for the laugh while you lecture others about getting back to sucking your balls for 1000 baht you do what you are asking others not to do! And then you can't help yourself by doubling down and doing it again. You want to hear more about where to get your balls sucked for 1000 do as one poster is asking " stop " but I guess that will happen only if you leave your " ego " at the door of the website before writing.
I'm not a big fan of starting new threads or telling others the topic doesn't fit the heading you do as you want but don't be a hypocrite! One thing I can do is debate American politics all day and night but like life there is a time and place for everything you gave your opinion now try to practice what you preach!
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2590322]You like many don't seem to understand also thanks for the laugh while you lecture others about getting back to sucking your balls for 1000 baht you do what you are asking others not to do! And then you can't help yourself by doubling down and doing it again. You want to hear more about where to get your balls sucked for 1000 do as one poster is asking " stop " but I guess that will happen only if you leave your " ego " at the door of the website before writing.
I'm not a big fan of starting new threads or telling others the topic doesn't fit the heading you do as you want but don't be a hypocrite! One thing I can do is debate American politics all day and night but like life there is a time and place for everything you gave your opinion now try to practice what you preach![/QUOTE]True, I said let's move on and then I didn't move on. So I'll move on.
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The Powers That Be have decided to roll back some of the Covid restrictions on September.
No, the bars won't open in September. Only some minor roll backs.
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Sorry to interrupt the off topic chatter here, but it's morning in Pattaya and I am preparing for another day of debauchery.
Yesterday, I had a 40+ year old freelancer over in the afternoon and we drank a good part of a bottle of tequila. When she got hammered, she admitted that she had been living with a 22 year old karaoke boy for a couple of years until Covid hit, when he moved on to another lady. Now that the bars may open soon, he is making noise about coming back. But she is broke now, so no fun for her. Her story is pretty much identical to your standard lovesick monger who longs for some random bargirl: "but, this one is different ".
In the evening, I had 2 top tier bargirls over. Lots of wear and tear on my dick, and their pussies.
Afterwards, my ex came over for an overnighter. When we together, sex was infrequent but now she wants to fuck every time she gets the chance. And she went from zero blowjobs per month to providing long sloppy ones all the time.
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Off Topic Chatter
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600197]Sorry to interrupt the off topic chatter here, but it's morning in Pattaya and I am preparing for another day of debauchery.[/QUOTE]You are the off topic one, with your personal diary, which I skim over and others believe is fiction. Just so you know, this site is about having sex with consenting women, usually for money. In the case of Thailand and many other places, that involves the logistics of getting there, being safe there and getting women to bang. At the current time, the major issue is the logistical impediments Covid causes. Coupled with that are trips down memory lane to see how Pattaya is doing.
As you contribute nothing to all of that, your posts are a waste of bandwidth, no matter whether they are fact or fiction based.
In your own primitive way, you are boasting that the water is lovely and we should come in. But, with Covid, we do not have the opportunity to do that, so your dick pic posts are a waste. Can you understand that or are you American?
Back on topic: Here are reports of orgies in Covid wards and the huge number of Thais laid low with Covid and how the monger industry has suffered [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9936183/Police-raid-Thai-hospital-Covid-patients-orgies-drugs-brawl.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2600289]Back on topic: Here are reports of orgies in Covid wards and the huge number of Thais laid low with Covid and how the monger industry has suffered [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9936183/Police-raid-Thai-hospital-Covid-patients-orgies-drugs-brawl.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Quoting the dailymail as a trusted source is priceless. Thank you sir for providing such entertainment in an otherwise dull night under curfew in Pattaya.
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Moderna coming to Thailand
I went two years ago to do a wellness check at a hospital in Bangkok and today I received an email from them offering for me to sign up for a moderna vaccine. It looks like it won't be available until early 2022, but it's coming. PM me if you want a link. I can't seem to pay for it ($50 per dose) because I can't seem to pay for anything in Thailand through an automated system from here, but I'm going to call and try to reserve the shot.
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Peer Reviewed?
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2600430]Quoting the dailymail as a trusted source is priceless. Thank you sir for providing such entertainment in an otherwise dull night under curfew in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Another American. The Daily Mail is free on line so it is a useful drive by source. It is no better or worse than the Guardian or NYT, both of which are also (war mongering) rags. Now off you pop and read about Explorer's fantasies. Me? I am planning trips around Europe and am working on me banging women, not reading about someone's fantasies from a land we cannot enter.
The situation here in the civilised world is we are going to have a major uptick in cases. Just like Israel. But we won't have the orgies the Daily Mail report on.
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Peer Reviewed Horse Dewormers
[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/[/URL]
Here is an article (peer reviewed for the comatose NYT readers) on Ivermectin. I can see a million flaws with the article but hey I read the Daily Mail and bang hookers.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2600289]You are the off topic one, with your personal diary, which I skim over and others believe is fiction. Just so you know, this site is about having sex with consenting women, usually for money. In the case of Thailand and many other places, that involves the logistics of getting there, being safe there and getting women to bang. At the current time, the major issue is the logistical impediments Covid causes. Coupled with that are trips down memory lane to see how Pattaya is doing.
As you contribute nothing to all of that, your posts are a waste of bandwidth, no matter whether they are fact or fiction based.
In your own primitive way, you are boasting that the water is lovely and we should come in. But, with Covid, we do not have the opportunity to do that, so your dick pic posts are a waste. Can you understand that or are you American?
Back on topic: Here are reports of orgies in Covid wards and the huge number of Thais laid low with Covid and how the monger industry has suffered [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9936183/Police-raid-Thai-hospital-Covid-patients-orgies-drugs-brawl.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I have written at length about coming into Thailand, going through quarantine, where the ladies are, please advise if you have any serious questions about mongering in Thailand.
Meanwhile, the number of ladies I know who are vaccinated is growing daily. I suspect most will be fully vaccinated in October.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2600289]You are the off topic one, with your personal diary, which I skim over and others believe is fiction. Just so you know, this site is about having sex with consenting women, usually for money. In the case of Thailand and many other places, that involves the logistics of getting there, being safe there and getting women to bang. At the current time, the major issue is the logistical impediments Covid causes. Coupled with that are trips down memory lane to see how Pattaya is doing.
As you contribute nothing to all of that, your posts are a waste of bandwidth, no matter whether they are fact or fiction based.
In your own primitive way, you are boasting that the water is lovely and we should come in. But, with Covid, we do not have the opportunity to do that, so your dick pic posts are a waste. Can you understand that or are you American?
Back on topic: Here are reports of orgies in Covid wards and the huge number of Thais laid low with Covid and how the monger industry has suffered [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9936183/Police-raid-Thai-hospital-Covid-patients-orgies-drugs-brawl.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]What's stopping you from coming to Thailand? I have entered Thailand twice already this year, and am planning another trip to the US this year, and returning.
As for orgies in field hospitals, there was one report of a mixed couple.
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Thailand: Nein
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600716]What's stopping you from coming to Thailand? I have entered Thailand twice already this year, and am planning another trip to the US this year, and returning.
As for orgies in field hospitals, there was one report of a mixed couple.[/QUOTE]I am not going too jump through all the hoops and live with all the uncertainties that currently entails and I am in the overwhelming majority. As regards the monkey maze of a sandbox, it is just not worth it. Currently, Thailand has spicy food, pussy and nothing else.
Thailand is currently on a lot of red "do not travel" lists. Hhat equals lots of hassle.
The Philippines, meanwhile, is allowing Indian diplomats in. If they quarantine in a flea pit for a few weeks [URL]https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visit/philippines-to-lift-coronavirus-travel-ban-on-10-countries-including-india-uae/articleshow/85923093.cms[/URL].
Nein danke.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2597832]The Powers That Be have decided to roll back some of the Covid restrictions on September.
No, the bars won't open in September. Only some minor roll backs.[/QUOTE]Just a personal opinion I get a sense if there isn't some new type of break out and the numbers continue to dip I see some bar and gogo opening?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2600894]Just a personal opinion I get a sense if there isn't some new type of break out and the numbers continue to dip I see some bar and gogo opening?[/QUOTE]The Powers That Be want to open at least some parts of Thailand around October 15.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600901]The Powers That Be want to open at least some parts of Thailand around October 15.[/QUOTE]I agree if not by the 15th, I have done a lot of cruising around the last week many looks at only the night life but man this last lockdown has really put many out of business for good. I've been all over town north, south, east, west for the first time even the east side Darkside the local markets stalls people gone many of them who I been buying for years GONE! Signs up everywhere particularly in tourist spots rent or for sale. Rumor with vaccine distribution slow as you noted the powers to be are getting antsy restaurants are saying if we open we don't plan to close again until period! This weekend, my cruise although restrictions reduce the roads are empty Saturday I had to go to BKK to get my second Pfizer shot roads coming and going were empty I thought it was a holiday or something?
I order some take-out prior went to Taco Bell for lunch not bad pricey had more in the Tacos than what they give back home but there must be a beef shortage or they don't trust Thai beef, everything standard comes with chicken for beef add 60 baht. I figure for one taco 3 bucks for a supreme taco what is it back home? A few years back I got one opened it and said " where is the beef " it was just a shell!
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2601014]I figure for one taco 3 bucks for a supreme taco what is it back home?[/QUOTE]Shit like the same damn price these days! You don't come away from there without having spent $10. When I was at the university I would eat lunch there everyday. 2 tacos for 49 cent each and I would bring my own cup to steal from the self-serve drink fountain.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601062]Shit like the same damn price these days! You don't come away from there without having spent $10. When I was at the university I would eat lunch there everyday. 2 tacos for 49 cent each and I would bring my own cup to steal from the self-serve drink fountain.[/QUOTE]Being from the hood, there was no TB, it wasn't until someone in the group got a car that we were able to travel outside 20 minutes out then it was 19 cents for one Taco next door McDonalds 25 cents for a burger only take out, those were the days?
With the price of space, TB is paying I can see why the price but aside from the pre-pack sauce I could never figure out why a Taco is so high, labor is cheap? I've had many tacos in form styles, places and they all range in 2 buck range. Sadly the most convenient and best priced Mexican meal Tequila Reef the new location is gone for good.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2601230]Being from the hood, there was no TB, it wasn't until someone in the group got a car that we were able to travel outside 20 minutes out then it was 19 cents for one Taco next door McDonalds 25 cents for a burger only take out, those were the days?
With the price of space, TB is paying I can see why the price but aside from the pre-pack sauce I could never figure out why a Taco is so high, labor is cheap? I've had many tacos in form styles, places and they all range in 2 buck range. Sadly the most convenient and best priced Mexican meal Tequila Reef the new location is gone for good.[/QUOTE]Yep, I was a big Tequila Reef fan.
If I am craving Mexican food, I go to the Azul restaurant in the Zona Norte, Tijuana, but it's very far from Pattaya. So, I bought some alleged Mexican salsa at the supermarket and maybe I can make some tacos.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2600713][URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/[/URL]
Here is an article (peer reviewed for the comatose NYT readers) on Ivermectin. I can see a million flaws with the article but hey I read the Daily Mail and bang hookers.[/QUOTE]It is a meta-data analysis which means that while suggestive, it is not something anyone rational person would pin their health decision. And if you see a millions flaws for it, why offer it up as evidence as your thinking that Ivermectin is a treatment for COVID. Just stick to the medical consensus.
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What medical consensus?
[QUOTE=ErsatzJulian;2601316]It is a meta-data analysis which means that while suggestive, it is not something anyone rational person would pin their health decision. And if you see a millions flaws for it, why offer it up as evidence as your thinking that Ivermectin is a treatment for COVID. Just stick to the medical consensus.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html?fbclid=IwAR3VsJiagcDecNC97GAN19sn3E-zaUuUk2iPHVbg7f9QQ7XDinx-FRobgP4[/URL]
[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries.
A few weeks ago, our TV cameras had shocking videos from India of poor folk dropping dead. Real Biblical plague stuff, just like the earlier snuff stuff from China, which seems to have been faked. Now no more. Some say it is due to Ivermectin which Big Pharma / Gates seem to hate [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries.
I was told separately that was the case. Anyway, Indian snuff rates seem to be well below Thailand and the Brothel State of Ukraine. [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries.
Have a look at Israel's figures. Were they just given a placebo?
I have concluded nothing, except that a lot of government advisors have got very rich out of this. I post stuff here to see what others think on the long shot light might emerge. We live in hope.
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[QUOTE=ErsatzJulian;2601316]It is a meta-data analysis which means that while suggestive, it is not something anyone rational person would pin their health decision. And if you see a millions flaws for it, why offer it up as evidence as your thinking that Ivermectin is a treatment for COVID. Just stick to the medical consensus.[/QUOTE]But what is the harm? Ivermectin is exceptionally safe, like taking a baby aspirin. I take two pills once, 24 MG and feel fine.
Not long ago, I unknowingly spent half a day with a covid positive person. I found out because of contract tracing. I tested negative and I sat closest to that person. Other vax people in the same meeting was tested positive. I take 5000 IU of vitamin D everyday and 3 MG of ivermectin every 3 days.
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2604788]But what is the harm? Ivermectin is exceptionally safe, like taking a baby aspirin.[/QUOTE]Ivermectin is great to treat parasitic worms, good to hear that it's helped you. There's no evidence whatsoever that it does anything for Covid.
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Dr Malone's interview about covid, vaccines and big pharma
Let's see if some members who always try to pump their stocks of Pfizer and Mode-rna on this site are going to call him paranoid or say that he cannot properly read a medical study, or that science is on the side of universal covid vaccine.
Here is a well known scientist explaining everything about covid19, vaccines and pharmaceutical's interests.
I thought it's a very informative interview for anyone wanting to understand what's going on.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPKnOhJRYg[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2604855]Ivermectin is great to treat parasitic worms, good to hear that it's helped you. There's no evidence whatsoever that it does anything for Covid.[/QUOTE]Wrong! There is a lot evident. The evident is not gold standard and not definitive. Never the less, there is a ton of evident that it do work for covid. There is also a few evident that it does not work for covid, those study is also not definitive.
Some of the current study on ivermectin, like the one from Duke are designed to fail and when it does fail, it will not change anything. We need a study that is design to fairly test if it work or not.
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Pretty soon you are going to have to be vaccinated to enter Thailand so all this discussion about Ivermectin is moot.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2605175]Pretty soon you are going to have to be vaccinated to enter Thailand so all this discussion about Ivermectin is moot.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure you will need to be fully vaccinated to enter most countries in 2022.
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Long but very interesting about immunity.
[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/waning-immunity-not-crisis-right-now/619965/[/URL]
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Long Yes, Informative No
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2605278]Long but very interesting about immunity.
[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/waning-immunity-not-crisis-right-now/619965/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. If you wonder who pays for it, you will see an owner of Johnson & Johnson, maker of the vaccines (sic), mentioned at the bottom of the article. Please check out the video below for a different and perhaps more informed approach. As for me, I cashed in all my US $ and other Forex (though I still have plenty in various bank accounts). For me, SE Asia is over. I pity all the vagabonds in Pattaya but they are in my prayers, as they are in the day dreams of spammers. I see the curtains coming down all over the world and I can't see them being lifted again in my life time. The world has gone mad to prop up Big Pharma's stock price.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPKnOhJRYg[/URL]
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2605310]For me, SE Asia is over. I pity all the vagabonds in Pattaya but they are in my prayers, as they are in the day dreams of spammers. I see the curtains coming down all over the world and I can't see them being lifted again in my life time.[/QUOTE]Instead of being so bleak, you should look to new horizons. There are great times being had in South America and the Caribbean. I am still paying rent in Pattaya, but I am in no hurry to get back there. There are other shows in town to be enjoyed.
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Good-ByeTo All Of That
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605335]Instead of being so bleak, you should look to new horizons. There are great times being had in South America and the Caribbean. I am still paying rent in Pattaya, but I am in no hurry to get back there. There are other shows in town to be enjoyed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip but it is too much hassle and that hassle will only grow. I follow a brave Dutch chick on Youtube who motorbikes around Africa. Braver and more adventurous than me. As well as being a looker, she is so organized. But I am not going into within 20 metres of lions. SE Asia was good for non stop sessions with LBFMs but, for me, it is over.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhAlrrPPAxE[/URL]
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2605310]For me, SE Asia is over. I pity all the vagabonds in Pattaya but they are in my prayers, as they are in the day dreams of spammers. I see the curtains coming down all over the world and I can't see them being lifted again in my life time.[/QUOTE]This is awfully pessimistic, but you're not fundamentally wrong. Travel restrictions are going to be relaxed at a glacial pace, and the world might not get back to where it was in 2019 for a long, long time. Even now, most of us can go somewhere, sometimes with somewhat bearable conditions (like a PCR test), but the age of just a few clicks to book and hopping on a plane to virtually anywhere without a worry if you'll be able to move onward are over.
When it comes to mongering, the supply of girls in Thailand has thinned out considerably between 2010 and 2019, to the point that it was already a shadow of its former self. After the pandemic, it will not go back to the 2019 levels, and plenty of girls will be turned off by the health risks.
Some cultures tend to mostly ignore Covid despite the death toll, but Thailand isn't among them, they developed a massive paranoia surrounding the disease, although they got out relatively lightly so far. If the HIV scare put a damper on our hobby in Thailand, Covid will be 100 x worse, since effects are immediate, you can easily transmit it to family, and protection way more difficult. The authorities won't be too eager to support the naughty nightlife scene re-building (we're well beyond re-opening now, most venues are gone) and might use the opportunity to kill off most of it for good.
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Too Much Hassle
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2605792]This is awfully pessimistic, but you're not fundamentally wrong. Travel restrictions are going to be relaxed at a glacial pace, and the world might not get back to where it was in 2019 for a long, long time. Even now, most of us can go somewhere, sometimes with somewhat bearable conditions (like a PCR test), but the age of just a few clicks to book and hopping on a plane to virtually anywhere without a worry if you'll be able to move onward are over.
When it comes to mongering, the supply of girls in Thailand has thinned out considerably between 2010 and 2019, to the point that it was already a shadow of its former self. After the pandemic, it will not go back to the 2019 levels, and plenty of girls will be turned off by the health risks.
Some cultures tend to mostly ignore Covid despite the death toll, but Thailand isn't among them, they developed a massive paranoia surrounding the disease, although they got out relatively lightly so far. If the HIV scare put a damper on our hobby in Thailand, Covid will be 100 x worse, since effects are immediate, you can easily transmit it to family, and protection way more difficult. The authorities won't be too eager to support the naughty nightlife scene re-building (we're well beyond re-opening now, most venues are gone) and might use the opportunity to kill off most of it for good.[/QUOTE]Even (especially?) in Europe, there is too much demand to show an array of papers. Countries are moved from green to red and back again in a blink, sinking any hope of making plans. I am off on my travels in a few days. I checked requirements countless times but I have only discovered I need another Covid test and another paper. There is a bigger game afoot here and we are all the collateral damage.
Your post is good. Check out the Philippines pages. Pathetic pictures of pussies, growth "models" that would warrant a straight fail in any school and endless links without context. The Dutch chick I follow has a purpose, as all travel should.
I watch Pattaya videos. Wall to wall vagabonds and Thai and farang tear assing on walks up and down the promenade like they are prisoners let out for an hour or so.
When the tourist dust settles, SE Asia will be well dowen the big boys' list, fighting for tourist crumb with the lockdown paradise of Australia.
If a newer model emerges, it will not be for God fearing mongers like us but more for the packaged tour top dollar lot. The freedom and anarchy are gone.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2605792]When it comes to mongering, the supply of girls in Thailand has thinned out considerably between 2010 and 2019, to the point that it was already a shadow of its former self. After the pandemic, it will not go back to the 2019 levels, and plenty of girls will be turned off by the health risks.
[/QUOTE]You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?
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[QUOTE=Vendelo;2608569]You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?[/QUOTE]For me, TF was at its peak (for regular girls, not PFP) around 2010-2013 and declined afterwards, slowly but noticeably.
No idea about the reasons, I can only speculate. Perhaps it has to do with demographics, average age in Thailand rose from 35 in 2010 to 40 in 2020, so there are fewer young women. For me, 40 is when the good and cuteness looks of most Thai women decline, although there are exceptions.
Farang tend to be less popular among younger Thais as well. Once upon a time each one of us was assumed to be rich and a potential great catch, even the older folks without much going for them. Now it's more of "meh, maybe".
Last, but not least, I hate the 3 trends of thick drawn-on eyebrows, tattoos or fake noses. Most Thai women on TF have at least one these days. When it comes to Thai women, I always loved the simple, sweet, and friendly vibe. They were never too good at the sex-bomb, 100% dolled up, hot high-maintenance kind of style, it ends up fake and ugly. The 3 trends kill their key strength. Maybe someone prefers this new look, but it's not for me.
Among normal girls online, the eagerness to jump in bed has declined as well. It's not exactly hard (compared to the west), but I feel that since about 2014 I had to "work for it" more than before, and a higher percentage of contacts or fist dates don't go anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, TF is still a goldmine, relative to any dating sites in the west.
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[QUOTE=Vendelo;2608569]You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?[/QUOTE]I can answer that one.
Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).
It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.
It's full of young pretty girls but most are either looking for P4 P or young guys. I do pretty well but it's a long game and tourists have very low chances to score these coffe-shop hoppers, instagram young junkies.
I've been doing a few of them but they're really not my type, they treat you like a glorified photographer and they're not the best in the sack either.
Some young girls just as soon as you match, ask for your LINE (a must for communication) and send you 20 nudes with the caption: 2,000 thb for 2 hours and 1 shot.
I tend to ignore anything below 27 28, that way I get girls that are fairly serious about wanting to just hook-up, can hold somewhat of a conversation and are more fun in bed (if it gets there).
Many of these girls have been burned before, one-night-stands, Friends with benefits, stock investments. They are wary of guys so it takes a bit longer to get them on your side of the fence, but it's possible.
If you're looking for a little less stunning girls, badoo is worth a try, I have pulled a few girls from there and all ended up in bed without a lot of convincing. Just need to be treated with respect.
I stick to my few rotation of girls now and a bit out the dating app game, but I'm sure you can find what you're looking for in Tinder.
One word of advice, I bought their premium for one week and it was the biggest waste, girls they say were interested in you were not really and it's all made to look like there's lots of girls that like you but you can't see them unless you pay.
You can fare just as well with the free option: have an interesting profile name, good photos, fun photos and an interesting Bio. Fun photos are the most crucial, it shows the girls there can be a good time to be had with you. And Sanook is what these girls love.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2608790]I can answer that one.
Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).
It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.
It's full of young pretty girls but most are either looking for P4 P or young guys. I do pretty well but it's a long game and tourists have very low chances to score these coffe-shop hoppers, instagram young junkies.
I've been doing a few of them but they're really not my type, they treat you like a glorified photographer and they're not the best in the sack either.
Some young girls just as soon as you match, ask for your LINE (a must for communication) and send you 20 nudes with the caption: 2,000 thb for 2 hours and 1 shot.
I tend to ignore anything below 27 28, that way I get girls that are fairly serious about wanting to just hook-up, can hold somewhat of a conversation and are more fun in bed (if it gets there).
Many of these girls have been burned before, one-night-stands, Friends with benefits, stock investments. They are wary of guys so it takes a bit longer to get them on your side of the fence, but it's possible.
If you're looking for a little less stunning girls, badoo is worth a try, I have pulled a few girls from there and all ended up in bed without a lot of convincing. Just need to be treated with respect.
I stick to my few rotation of girls now and a bit out the dating app game, but I'm sure you can find what you're looking for in Tinder.
One word of advice, I bought their premium for one week and it was the biggest waste, girls they say were interested in you were not really and it's all made to look like there's lots of girls that like you but you can't see them unless you pay.
You can fare just as well with the free option: have an interesting profile name, good photos, fun photos and an interesting Bio. Fun photos are the most crucial, it shows the girls there can be a good time to be had with you. And Sanook is what these girls love.[/QUOTE]In my opinion TF is by far the best. Much better than Tinder, hit rate is 10 to 1 over Tinder for older guys. If I send 10 TF messages I get responses on 7. If I like 10 Tinder profiles I get matched 1 time.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2608790]I can answer that one.
Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).
It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.
[/QUOTE]Don't know about ThaiCupid, but quality on Tinder has been absolutely dismal in terms of quality in 2019 (I haven't looked since).
Tinder has an enormous percentage of ladyboys classified as girls, as well as plastic-looking women. Last time I tried, I found maybe 1 out of 20 profiles anywhere close to interesting, and I'm not picky when it comes to looks, just want somebody looking roughly "normal" and "girl next door", without a fake plastic vibe.
ThaiFriendly is way, way better, even in its diminished state compared to several years ago.
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Boring
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2610400]I went down to the first floor to pick up a lady who was coming to drink, and saw a really hot lady walking around the lobby, wearing a face mask, of course. I thought some guy got really lucky today. Oops, it was the lady I came down to pick up.
There was a second lady, a silicon enhanced MILF. They didn't know each other previously. They do now. After a few drinks, one was literally begging for dick. Apparently some guy had barfined her for a few days, but didn't pay enough to fuck her, so she was a little randy. Anyway she got dick, but never came, so she left looking for a man in LK Metro.
I forgot to mention that yesterday I had two top tier ladies come over for drinks, and eventually, we got around to playing on the sofa. One lady straddled me and fucked my mouth while the other lady blew me. After about 10 minutes, my tongue gave out, and I pulled the lady down. They didn't miss a beat, they just switched positions, and the other lady started fucking my mouth.
After a while, one of the ladies laid back, and I held up her leg to expose her pussy and finger fucked her, ie my hands were full. No matter, the other lady started making out with her, and helped me out.
There were two other ladies who showed up yesterday, one in the early afternoon, the other an overnighter. Lots of fun.[/QUOTE]Get real dude, nibody believes this shit.
Johnie.
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[QUOTE=Johnie;2610418]Get real dude, nibody believes this shit.
Johnie.[/QUOTE]His fantasy posts are of no value. You can block his posts, as I have.
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Quote of the day
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2610457]His fantasy posts are of no value. You can block his posts, as I have.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks bud I'm going to block him and see if that works before I completely give up on site itself (very close) is their anyway to come together and everyone blocks or ignore him for good, I've seen very valuable members on here just completely give up and not return, its a shame! Not making sense at all I've got infraction for asking if rules have changed on here because he even gets away with posting and bragging about known bars where ladyboys work, witch in past was not allowed and got infractions for just asking about, weird!
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PM sets Nov 1 for reopening to foreign tourists from low-risk countries
Alcohol sales, other entertainment venues to be allowed by Dec 1.
PUBLISHED: 11 OCT 2021.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2196079/pm-sets-nov-1-for-reopening-to-foreign-tourists-from-low-risk-countries[/URL]
[QUOTE]Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Monday that he will push for the opening up of the country to fully vaccinated foreign tourists from at least 10 countries on Nov 1, as the government earlier planned.
Gen Prayut said in a nationally televised broadcast that fully vaccinated tourists from at least 10 low-risk countries would be allowed to enter Thailand by air with no quarantine requirements.
The prime minister named the United Kingdom, Singapore, Germany, China and the United States among the first group of countries to benefit from the move.
"I have instructed the CCSA and the Ministry of Public Health to urgently consider within this week to allow, as of Nov 1, international visitors to enter Thailand without any requirement for quarantine if they are fully vaccinated and arrive by air from low-risk countries," he said.
He pledged to open the gates for more countries by Dec 1 and targeted others by Jan 1.
Tourists from countries not on the low-risk list would be allowed but they would be required to quarantine, he added.
The announcement came after other countries including Singapore and Australia eased travel restrictions for their citizens to travel overseas.
Gen Prayut hoped the decision to open up the country next month would draw foreign tourists to Thailand over the next three months, including the forthcoming year-end holidays.
They would revitalise the sector and related businesses that involved millions of people in the country, he went on.
The government had earlier planned to open only Bangkok and several provinces for foreign tourists on Nov 1. The other provinces are Chon Buri (Pattaya city, Bang Lamung district, and Sattahip district), Phetchaburi (Cha-am district), Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin district) and Chiang Mai (Muang, Mae Taeng, Mae Rim and Doi Tao districts).
Monday's announcement indicated that the reopening would cover all parts of the country.
The announcement came after the country saw the number of fatalities drop below 100 in recent days, with new cases hovering around 10,000.
Although the situation was improving in most parts of Thailand, a surge of new infections continued in Narathiwat, Pattani, Songkhla and Yala. The southern border provinces were in the spotlight of health authorities who were mulling additional measures to clamp down on the spike in the areas.
Tourism was the main sector driving the economy before the pandemic floored the industry last year. The sector accounted for about 20% of gross domestic product if both local tourists and foreign arrivals were counted. Revenue from foreign tourists alone was about 15% of GDP, as the country welcomed almost 40 million travellers from abroad, especially Chinese.
The Bank of Thailand estimated only 200,000 foreign arrivals this year with the number jumping to 6 million next year.
[b]Restrictions eased for alcohol sales[/b]
The prime minister said the government will allow restaurants and other places to sell alcohol by Dec 1 to promote tourism and the entertainment sector as people plan to celebrate the new year.
"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalisation of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," he said.[/QUOTE]
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All marketing
"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.
By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.
"Another problem with the program has been the policy requiring that travelers who test positive, or who are traveling with someone who tests positive, be transferred from their hotel to a health care facility and kept in strict quarantine for up to 14 days at their own expense. This has led to the mandatory quarantine of tourists who were sitting near an infectious passenger on their flight to Phuket."
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/world/asia/thailand-phuket-covid-quarantine.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2614184]"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.
By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.
...[/QUOTE]Yes, I am with you on the fact that things can change in an hour. That is why I posted the report without comment, just FYI to anyone looking for positive signs.
But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.
I have mentioned signs of life in terms of renovation and sprucing up of some go-go bars and beer bars lately. Well, this week I am seeing more of it.
And I dare say it appears to me there are several more restaurants and "entertainment venues" in the area (not go-go bars yet) that juuuust might be jumping the gun on the moves cited in that report by 3-7 weeks as though they don't expect much hassle or penalty at all for their eagerness to get up and running.
Btw, "marketing" for what if it isn't for travelers and tourists to start firing up to book flights and rooms on the premise that there will be plenty for them to do and spend money on when they arrive other than time in a quarantine hotel or hospital care and medical staff?
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2608751]For me, TF was at its peak (for regular girls, not PFP) around 2010-2013 and declined afterwards, slowly but noticeably.
No idea about the reasons, I can only speculate. Perhaps it has to do with demographics, average age in Thailand rose from 35 in 2010 to 40 in 2020, so there are fewer young women. For me, 40 is when the good and cuteness looks of most Thai women decline, although there are exceptions. snip.[/QUOTE]I feel the same about the decline of TF. Up to 2017 I was still able to harvest few Line IDs of working girls but converting TF ladies to bed companions has not worked for me after that. I tried WeChat in 2019 but got replies mostly from tall ladies with big hands. I have used past 15 months building up my Facebook friend list but like you said, aside from obvious bar girls the interest of the younger generation in farangs seem to have waned considerably. I use fake pictures in my FB account so it is not due me being bald, 40 kg overweight, miserable old man.
I have ten times more Messenger activity with young FB friends from Philippines than from Thailand. Maybe it is also a language barrier issue.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2614230]But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.[/QUOTE]Even with inside information, it's a crapshoot. The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress. We also dont know how customers and workers will respond to whatever future health may become.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2614307]The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress. [/QUOTE]That has shit to do with shit. I am in the Dominican Republic where no test or vaccine is required to enter. Ain't a myriad of tourists coming here spreading covid around or falling out in the street and needing the government to care for them because they did not get the covid insurance. It is the same in Colombia. These folks are dummies.
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[QUOTE=Kurredut;2614270]I feel the same about the decline of TF. Up to 2017 I was still able to harvest few Line IDs of working girls but converting TF ladies to bed companions has not worked for me after that.[/QUOTE]I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.
I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark. The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).
I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.
The key to success is patience, it takes quite a few days / weeks of chat to set up the story you want and meet them in a setting that leads to bed. It's worth it in the end for me.
Tinder is also one that I have had success with but a lot more LBs and Pros there. Girls right away ask for your LineID, and send you pictures, prices, services.
Badoo is also good but you need to really be patient before you find something you might like.
As I said, I like girls with experience, no young puppies. As a local though, the downside is that some girls really get attached once you take them out and have sex.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2614380]I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.
I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark. The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).
I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.
The key to success is patience, it takes quite a few days / weeks of chat to set up the story you want and meet them in a setting that leads to bed. It's worth it in the end for me.
Tinder is also one that I have had success with but a lot more LBs and Pros there. Girls right away ask for your LineID, and send you pictures, prices, services.
Badoo is also good but you need to really be patient before you find something you might like.
As I said, I like girls with experience, no young puppies. As a local though, the downside is that some girls really get attached once you take them out and have sex.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do pretty well with TF and Tinder too. I still say a lot of TF girls are no longer in the area their profile says they live and are only going to chat chat chat into infinity but not meet due to Covid fears. But the ones who are actually IN Bangkok where I live are game. Just have to video chat and meet where escape is easy to avoid as much shock and regret as possible.
Badoo, on the other hand, has been a complete waste of time for me. After thousands of profile clicks by me and rejections by me of others, I have not connected with one lady from Badoo in the 6-7 months that I have had a "Lifetime" membership (3,000 baht, one time). Oh, I could meet a lot if fat old ladies or chat forever with better looking ones who live in Chiang Mai. LOL. But so far I have not made a connection with 1 doable lady who actually lives within 100 km of me and is up for being done by me.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2614380]The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).
I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.[/QUOTE]Living in Bangkok is certainly an advantage. I used to spend 10-15 weeks a year in Thailand back in 2012-2017 but now trying to keep girls interested from other side of the globe is a futile task. During past two years almost 20 percent of my hundred or so WG Line contacts have either moved back to family homes or had babies or just plain disappeared. I should get my boots on the ground again.
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I am disappointed but not in the least surprised about the limitations of the November 1st reopening. Instead of 10 plus countries promised quarantine free entry there will be only five on the list: Britain, the United States, Germany, China and Singapore. That closes the door for a quick tour in November.
Possibly good news is that COE is being replaced by an app that should / could be simpler to use.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2197799/quarantine-being-lifted-more-provinces-being-opened[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Kurredut;2614465]trying to keep girls interested from other side of the globe is a futile task[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you're talking about girls with above average looks, well these girls get quite a LOT of messages on a daily basis. Weed-out the guys that message about the size of their dicks and wanting video sex calls or just asking for sex on first message.
What's left is all the guys maybe worth talking to ( 50% for argument's sake), why would a girl worth her salt be talking to john Rambo on the other side of the planet? Why waste time on a guy she may never meet or might meet for a week when he visits, want to have sex and go back to his country or to another girl he chats with?
These girls ask pretty quick: Where you from and where you live. If you don't live in their area or near their area? They're not investing time and efforts.
While you're juggling with 10 20 conversations, they have hundreds of guys messaging, especially on TF where you don't need to match to send a message.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2614699]What's left is all the guys maybe worth talking to ( 50% for argument's sake), why would a girl worth her salt be talking to john Rambo on the other side of the planet? Why waste time on a guy she may never meet or might meet for a week when he visits, want to have sex and go back to his country or to another girl he chats with?[/QUOTE]Exactly the point I was trying to make: a futile task.
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Is free membership in TF still usable?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2614380]I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.
I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark.
[/QUOTE]Interesting comment regarding being a free member. When I first started ThaiFriendly in 2016-2017, the free membership was enough. I could contact about 95% of the girls and the 10 minute delay was not a problem. But, in about 2019 TF changed things and about 95% of the girls became listed as "popular member" and I was forced to become a paid member to contact them. I bought a 90-day membership in early 2020. Since then I've made multiple free TF IDs, but all of them have the same limits and I can only contact a few uglies. I'm also interested in the older ladies (40-50).
Are some people still getting effective use from the free membership? I can only view profiles for free, I must pay to contact the desirable ones.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2615263]Are some people still getting effective use from the free membership? I can only view profiles for free, I must pay to contact the desirable ones.[/QUOTE]Fuck that. I have money. Some of the dating sites that you use and have proven to work for you, then it is best to pay the money. It is all a numbers game, and the more numbers you can hit in a given time, the better. Damn waiting 10 minutes. That is ridiculous. As far as TF goes, I have not paid for it since I left because there is no reason to. I do not need it when I am not there. But when I am in the country I keep my subscription paid. My Latinamericancupid I pay by the year ($119) because I am always traveling around Latin America.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2615268]Fuck that. I have money. Some of the dating sites that you use and have proven to work for you, then it is best to pay the money.[/QUOTE]Quite right, and in the dating scene, my money is on Tinder at the moment. TF, Badoo, Tagged are just a mere side entertainment.
As a local, the only negative in playing the non P4 P game is that, no matter how many times you tell these girls you are not looking for a relationship, they always want more.
Golden Rule: Never bring them home (they should not know where you live), or work.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2615605]Quite right, and in the dating scene, my money is on Tinder at the moment. TF, Badoo, Tagged are just a mere side entertainment.
As a local, the only negative in playing the non P4 P game is that, no matter how many times you tell these girls you are not looking for a relationship, they always want more.
Golden Rule: Never bring them home (they should not know where you live), or work.[/QUOTE]Your Golden Rule of advice is certainly in the right thread. LOL.
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I'm Swiss and supposed to fly in Bangkok 3rd November.
For now Thailand says that 5 countries can enter without quarantine: China, Germany, Singapore, UK and USA.
Thailand government could announce an extended list with other countries in the coming days. Ok.
Even if your country is or will be on the list there are quite a few conditions to obtain a "Thailand Pass", including the purchase of COVID insurance and the choice of a specific hotel. When I look at the "how to" chart for entering Thailand, it already gives me a headache.
Note for myself: think of a plan be.
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[QUOTE=Khondjii;2616152]I'm Swiss and supposed to fly in Bangkok 3rd November.
For now Thailand says that 5 countries can enter without quarantine: China, Germany, Singapore, UK and USA.
Thailand government could announce an extended list with other countries in the coming days. Ok.
Even if your country is or will be on the list there are quite a few conditions to obtain a "Thailand Pass", including the purchase of COVID insurance and the choice of a specific hotel. When I look at the "how to" chart for entering Thailand, it already gives me a headache.
Note for myself: think of a plan be.[/QUOTE]Unless you are completely okay without going to gogobars, nightclubs, or bars, you would be better off leaving on Dec. 1. The ban on serving alcohol is still in affect until Dec. 1, so IMO not worth going until then.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2615605]Quite right, and in the dating scene, my money is on Tinder at the moment. TF, Badoo, Tagged are just a mere side entertainment.
As a local, the only negative in playing the non P4 P game is that, no matter how many times you tell these girls you are not looking for a relationship, they always want more.
Golden Rule: Never bring them home (they should not know where you live), or work.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, I bring many home. That's how I have my condo cleaned, about 50% of the ladies clean up the place.
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[QUOTE=StudBucket;2616325]Unless you are completely okay without going to gogobars, nightclubs, or bars, you would be better off leaving on Dec. 1. The ban on serving alcohol is still in affect until Dec. 1, so IMO not worth going until then.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid, You're right.
- Even if your country is on the "OK list".
- Even if you are vaccinated.
- Even if you have a PCR test valid for 48 hours.
- Even if you have to make another PCR test once entering in Thailand.
- Even if you subscribe a COVID insurance up to $ 100 K.
- Even if you must stay in an imposed hotel.
What will you really find in Thailand since November?
- no alcohol (and I'm not an alcoholic but hey.).
- closed bars?
- massage parlors open randomly? With just a few girls?
- a local population mostly hostile to the reopening of the country - [URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/most-thais-against-reopening-country-poll[/URL].
- wearing a mask everywhere, outside, inside.
Seriously, it will take time to find again the Thailand (and the world) we have known.
Shit!
Take care guys.
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What will you really find in Thailand since November?
- no alcohol (and I'm not an alcoholic but hey.).
- closed bars?
- massage parlors open randomly? With just a few girls?
- a local population mostly hostile to the reopening of the country - [URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/most-thais-against-reopening-country-poll[/URL].
- wearing a mask everywhere, outside, inside.
Seriously, it will take time to find again the Thailand (and the world) we have known.
Shit!
Take care guys.[/QUOTE]Other than that "local population" part, my observation and experience is that the things you listed are not exactly true even now, October 21, 2021. I'm talking about the main red light district of Bangkok.
Sure, everything can change on a dime. But a punter could go out this very night and be swarmed by perfectly doable if not more than doable young P4P ladies while getting shit-faced drunk if that is his thing. The alcohol part carries risks for now though.
Remember the "friend" or whatever of a member here who wrote a couple of recent reports his member friend posted about how he'd been in Bangkok for 3 days, how dreary everything looked in Bangkok, how he would not stick his dick in the dregs he saw, how sorry he was if he insulted anyone living here who did?
Well, he was mostly right about how things looked in general and I said so.
But while he was boasting about how his punter knowledge and punter game was superior to the poor confused souls who had not figured out how to behave properly as a very good boy to arrange meetings with sideliners or certain Thai website girls for presumably very safe, polite, basic, standard P4P fare, he pretty much had missed 2-3 elephants in the room where a moderately curious punter could then and can now get what you listed at less than normal cost.
He just either totally missed it or was keeping mum about it for any one of a few reasons. Lol.
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Living the life in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Khondjii;2616657]I'm afraid, You're right.
- Even if your country is on the "OK list".
- Even if you are vaccinated.
- Even if you have a PCR test valid for 48 hours.
- Even if you have to make another PCR test once entering in Thailand.
- Even if you subscribe a COVID insurance up to $ 100 K.
- Even if you must stay in an imposed hotel.
What will you really find in Thailand since November?
- no alcohol (and I'm not an alcoholic but hey.).
- closed bars?.[/QUOTE]I'll stop giggling at your reply soon.
If you want all that, well nearly (no gogo's yet), then go to Phuket.
It's all readily available, and it's also where the girls have moved to now that they again can enter.
As always, they follow where the punters are heading with their western filled wallets.
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Punting in Thailand never stopped with Covid.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2616753]Other than that "local population" part, my observation and experience is that the things you listed are not exactly true even now, October 21, 2021. I'm talking about the main red light district of Bangkok.
Sure, everything can change on a dime. But a punter could go out this very night and be swarmed by perfectly doable if not more than doable young P4P ladies while getting shit-faced drunk if that is his thing. The alcohol part carries risks for now though.
Remember the "friend" or whatever of a member here who wrote a couple of recent reports his member friend posted about how he'd been in Bangkok for 3 days, how dreary everything looked in Bangkok, how he would not stick his dick in the dregs he saw, how sorry he was if he insulted anyone living here who did?
Well, he was mostly right about how things looked in general and I said so.
But while he was boasting about how his punter knowledge and punter game was superior to the poor confused souls who had not figured out how to behave properly as a very good boy to arrange meetings with sideliners or certain Thai website girls for presumably very safe, polite, basic, standard P4P fare, he pretty much had missed 2-3 elephants in the room where a moderately curious punter could then and can now get what you listed at less than normal cost.
He just either totally missed it or was keeping mum about it for any one of a few reasons. Lol.[/QUOTE]100% agree with you.
And I will add that very very very satisfactory punting has continued throughout all the Covid restrictions across pretty much all the playspots in Thailand. I can personally claim that through experiences in Phuket, Bangkok, Pattaya, and Hua Hin, as well as information provided to me by trusted fellow punters in each of those locales.
The ones who missed out on knowing how to keep happy with covid, where those who never fostered "enduring engagements" with bars, girls, etc. , so they had no inside running to how the girls kept working. They were the just come, see, fuck and leave brigade of punters. As I read recently, those in the know, who played the long game, and played it to rules, got invited inside the telegram groups, and have endured good times. My personal approach has always been to get to know Mamasan, and long time, good time girls, and they have helped me continue to meet my needs.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2616753]a punter could go out this very night and be swarmed by perfectly doable if not more than doable young P4P ladies while getting shit-faced drunk if that is his thing. The alcohol part carries risks for now though[/QUOTE]The way Bangkok is at the moment, you can easily have a party, 2 or 3 ladies, your own supply of alcohol all in the comfort of your hotel room. Although curfews have been eased, the ladies would not charge an arm and a led for "long time".
You may have to sneak the ladies in 1 by 1 (hotel policies and all) but the safest way these days is house (small parties, 5 people max I believe).
I would avoid places that sell alcohol, at least until restaurants / bars can officially serve. The last thing you want is you being caught and slapped with a fine, a ticket back home and maybe a couple years ban from re-entering the kingdom. As a tourist, you're the lowest hanging fruit. A little notch below soi dogs.
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When necessity becomes a hobby.
Dear Gents,
First off this post contains no information on Thailand, if that's what you are looking for than skip my rant. (Don't want to step on anyone's toes, I've learned my lesson from previous experiences).
I've not been on this site for awhile, as my name suggest I work for an airline and I've traveled to BKK all through covid multiple times. However when I'm there I'm not allowed to have visitors or even leave my hotel room. Even though our entire airline now is vaccinated we are still not allowed to leave the room or have a visitor. But that's not what my rant is about.
For years and years I've visited the soapies and oilies in BKK, mostly out of necessity since the sex in my marriage was basically non existent and absolutely not very exciting. I did see value in my marriage and I was able to live this way with quenching my sexual desires in Thailand and many other places around the world. However my marriage has ended (for reasons that didn't involve cheating on my ex wife) and I've been single until recently. Never stopped visiting the ladies though, but this time in my own country and whenever it was allowed during lockdown. (Even if it wasn't I still got my fix from time to time).
Now I've met a new woman via tinder. She is absolutely wonderful, we have been going on dates a few months now and the sex is fantastic. She is all I could wish for and has made me see what I have missed in my previous marriage. I actually start to have feelings for her. We are slowly planning a future together. Out of respect I've stopped seeing WG's. However I've come to realize this has become an actual hobby of mine. It started out of necessity but I've actually enjoyed seeing women all these years. The thrill of finding that gem in some seedy place or actually exploring some cities in the world using tips from my fellow mongers on this website.
It's hard for me to imagine that I will never get to spend time with a hot 20 year old in Thailand again, especially now that I'm over twice that age and the idea gets more exciting the older I get. I've even had sex with women that are much older than I am which I found enjoyable as well. Or women that I normally wouldn't fall for like black women or fat women. They are usually not my preference but man I've had some good times with a BBW and some African ladies.
My new girlfriend knows about me having visited hookers and she was ok with me doing so in the past but had asked me to stop because of possible STD's and mostly because she considers it cheating.
I'm not going to ask you gents what I should do, I realize this forum would not be neutral. It's just a rant and I need to figure this out myself but any thoughts or experiences would be welcome. Thanks to everyone for all the tips I got through the years by reading this forum and it was a pleasure to have helped others the same time.
ALC.
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[QUOTE=AirlineCrew;2616836]Dear Gents,[/QUOTE]Nice rant and yes you're between a rock and a hard place.
Now, from experience I am afraid the temptation will be too large for you to abstain from having "fun" in Thailand. As strong as your will may be, once you get a taste of that life, as you so eloquently put it, it becomes a game, an addiction of sorts.
I am in a relationship, and even though I love my partner, I am straying. Mostly non P4 P this past couple years but I do indulge in massages from time to time. I tried to stop, I did for a while, but went back.
What triggered my going back? Could be a million things, but it was alcohol. My mind wasn't 100% and I got weak. Once I had the first taste again, I was done for.
I'm rooting for you and your couple, but your job will provide a lot of time away from your partner. And a lot of temptations. The only thing I would say, is try not to bring anything nasty home back to her.
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I agree with NicFrenchy. My handle could accurately be adjusted to Crazy for Pussy. All kinds of pussy. I have not been picky like many are. Not that I don't have my standards. But it's not just the sex act, it's all that goes with it. The surprise chemistry, the surprise willingness to please, the laughter while we are still playing pool, finding that she matches my wit and banter. It's an exploration and discovering delights. Not always of course, but often enough. And then there is the sustainability of your new love. I'll just say that my own true loves have never worked out and they failed even before I became a world class monger. So that was not a factor. Of course you could try, I mean truly commit, to quit and see how it goes. I know that people not on the game find it so easy to criticize us who are but what's true for me is that I really just love women and want to be around them. And fuck them. Could it be that you now have an obligation to keep us posted?
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Thanks
At Nicfrenzy and Crazy4 thai thanksi for the kind words and wisdom. I think you two are probably right. The thought of being exclusive to this one woman for the rest of my life would seem an impossible task. I'm going to try for now. Since I can't come into Thailand and indulge right now anyway that's an easy thing to say but just like you said this will probably change as soon as Thailand opens up again.
Staying away from all the venues in BKK would seem a bloody shame and since my experience is that every "regular" massage joint will ask you if you want to try the specials I just know that in a moment of weakness I'll say yes and then I'm back for sure. I've had sex at places when I was seriously going to get a massage. Just at a place near my hotel not even close to the RLD. Girl asked if I wanted a HJ like they always do and I just ask if she would do full sex. Sometimes they would hesitate but they always said yes in the end. I'd like to think I've liberated some young girls from their virginity this way.
Imagine if I had stayed faithful to my ex wife all those years what a waste that would have been.
Time will tell, maybe I'll fool myself and just be really picky with the ladies from now on and think that will justify it LOL.
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I heard rumors there will be 45+ countries on the no quarantine list starting in 10 days.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2616987]I heard rumors there will be 45+ countries on the no quarantine list starting in 10 days.[/QUOTE]46 countries according to [URL=https://www.thephuketnews.com/thailand-welcomes-visitors-from-46-countries-from-nov-1-81773.php]The Phuket News[/URL].
[QUOTE]Australia.
Austria.
Bahrain.
Belgium.
Bhutan.
Brunei Darussalam.
Bulgaria.
Cambodia.
Canada..[/QUOTE]
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Fyi
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2616987]I heard rumors there will be 45+ countries on the no quarantine list starting in 10 days.[/QUOTE]
General information:
[URL]https://asq.in.th/thailand-pass[/URL]
Some insurance options:
https://asq.in.th/thailand-covid-insurance
No guarantees how valid this information will be when you or I decide to travel.
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[QUOTE=AirlineCrew;2616966]this will probably change as soon as Thailand opens up again[/QUOTE]It looks like Thailand is reopening, and not to just a couple countries. This is very positive for the economy, not so much for your plans.
Being Picky is not really possible anymore, I get hit-on by 18 year old girls (and guys) for sex, the really good looking ones ask for 3 K for sex for 1 hour, and it takes only a few seconds to extend this to multiple hours and multi orgasms. What can I say, the iphone13 is out and they all want to have it.
On the other hand, December 1st looks like it's going to be the start of the alcohol ban lift, this means bars and nightlife will reopen. And Families in Issan will push their girls back to Bangkok to earn money and send it back.
The future looks brighter now, let's hope it stays that way.
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Can anyone translate this for me? PT-PCR testing requirements
No Quarantine.
"Note: Must wait for RT-PCR test result at the hotel for 1 night, or until a negative result is received."
Q. Where will I get my RT-PCR test? At the airport when I land, or at the hotel?
Q. How much does this test cost?
Q. How long does it generally take to get these results back?
Q. I presume I will have to stay in my hotel for the shorter of 1 night, or test results received.
Q. If I land at 06:30 AM what is "1 night" - is it until 06:30 the following day? What If I land at 23:45?
Q. If I land at 06:30 and my RT-PCR results come in the same day at 15:30, am I free to roam around Bangkok starting at 15:31?
I realize it's Thailand and getting precise answers to specific questions is not always easy but any insight would be appreciated.
Thank you!
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[QUOTE=GreenToad;2617286]Q. Where will I get my RT-PCR test? At the airport when I land, or at the hotel?[/QUOTE]You're not leaving the airport until your PCR test is done, they will setup something (might be outside) for you to go to get your PCR test. Don't worry, there will be a plethora of workers directing you as soon as you get off the plane.
[QUOTE]Q. How much does this test cost?[/QUOTE]The one I did in a BKK Hospital was 4 k, 5 k if I wanted the results same day.
For this one, My guess is it will be included in the price of your room (which is why you will have to stay in an ASQ hotel). Again it's not clear but that's what makes the most sense, seeing how they've done things so far.
[QUOTE]Q. How long does it generally take to get these results back?[/QUOTE]24 hours.
[QUOTE]Q. I presume I will have to stay in my hotel for the shorter of 1 night, or test results received[/QUOTE]Yes, stay in an ASQ (or maybe SHA+) hotel is mandatory until you get your test results back.
[QUOTE]Q. If I land at 06:30 AM what is "1 night" - is it until 06:30 the following day? What If I land at 23:45?[/QUOTE]That is unfortunately not that simple. But rest assured, regardless of your arrival time you will not be able to leave your hotel until a negative test clears you.
[QUOTE]Q. If I land at 06:30 and my RT-PCR results come in the same day at 15:30, am I free to roam around Bangkok starting at 15:31?[/QUOTE]Technically, yes, you're in the clear as soon as your PCR test comes back negative. You can then roam as you please.
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I am planning to go to Thailand November 2. Right now, there isn't enough information to apply for a COE, I hope things will be clearer in a few days.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2617941]I'm in Pattaya now and I took a walk down walking street. Lots of construction noise behind closed doors, so I think things are happening. I'm wondering what will happen to the smaller places, but I guess we'll see. I'll be happy if they aren't bought up by Chinese and turned into something awful.
I have already seen two girls and have one scheduled every day this week, so we'll see what happens. So far, so good. Had two excellent experiences so far. The one girl said she hadn't had a client in 5 days and her profile on TF is always near the head of the search because she is always working on there. She's cute, so I'm surprised she has no work. Girls have been messaging me like crazy and asking to see me because they knew I was coming this week. I'm running out of excuses already. Might have to take out a loan and have an orgy. Something to aspire to, anyway.
Oh, and one of the girls came over after curfew in a cab, so that is happening. I'll do the reports later.[/QUOTE]Ah, someone has taken over from Explorer.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2618094]Ah, someone has taken over from Explorer.[/QUOTE]Either a bipolar guy or starting an exit strategy and build a "new" image to be able to invade a different thread.
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Weird
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2618289]Either a bipolar guy or starting an exit strategy and build a "new" image to be able to invade a different thread.[/QUOTE]And the first thing he talks about in Tijuana is his expertise in that certain type of "lady" he seems to like playing with his ass and that same bar they hang out in Thailand, weird? Or just me thinks so? Been their 3 or 4 days now and not one word on the girls their, because now he must be very careful because posters that are really their or cross over all the time can call him out on his bullshit lying.
And yes from beginning I was thinking it's all about a exit strategy! From 9 girls a day to zero in Tijuana!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2618094]Ah, someone has taken over from Explorer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2618289]Either a bipolar guy or starting an exit strategy and build a "new" image to be able to invade a different thread.[/QUOTE]CIMguy has nothing to do with Explorer, and he's not the same guy either.
CIMguy has a credible posting history. Take a look at that first, before you make false accusations.
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CIMguy's Service
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2620502]CIMguy has nothing to do with Explorer, and he's not the same guy either.
CIMguy has a credible posting history. Take a look at that first, before you make false accusations.[/QUOTE]I have no interest in CIMguy's fantasies as they are not my style. Good luck to him. I am here to get information I could use (though it is too late for me to make an ISG app). COMguy writes, like many others, about these women, like from a checklist (attitude 9/10, bust size 3/10, GFE 1/10 etc) and a lot of guys like that, just as others like the vacuous pussy pervert pics in the Phils threads.
Here are my money-related questions for CIMguy. You constantly stress you are on a budget and I appreciate that.
1. In Pattaya, you are limiting yourself to 2-03 women per week. Why not pig out on them instead? What do you do there for the rest of the time?
2. You stress you are on a budget but you go to Zurich where a cup of coffee costs more than a Thai bonk. Please explain.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2620502]CIMguy has nothing to do with Explorer, and he's not the same guy either.
CIMguy has a credible posting history. Take a look at that first, before you make false accusations.[/QUOTE]I see you quoted me. If you think that I think they are the same person you are a confused person.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2620594]Here are my money-related questions for CIMguy. You constantly stress you are on a budget and I appreciate that.
1. In Pattaya, you are limiting yourself to 2-03 women per week. Why not pig out on them instead? What do you do there for the rest of the time?
2. You stress you are on a budget but you go to Zurich where a cup of coffee costs more than a Thai bonk. Please explain.[/QUOTE]Maybe he knows that he does not need more than 2 or 3 women per week. It does not have to be feast or famine. He realizes that middle ground. Maybe unlike the rest of ISG, he is fucking like a rabbit when he is home anyway and not beholden to how many guys say they are in a sex prison.
There are tons of things to do in Pattaya if you are looking to do something. If you are only looking for bars then that is what you will find. I hardly ever go to a bar, yet I stay busy.
Myself, I would not buy a new car or new house. In the States my house is paid off and my car is a 1998. I prefer to use my money for traveling and investing. And when traveling I do not spend a bunch of money on hookers. I deal with cheap hookers, then I do normal more expensive shit like Maldives with a normal girlfriend.
Just because someone posts about cheaping out on some things on this board does not mean they are broke or can't afford more expensive whatever. Maybe they prefer making their Bentley payments over $300/ hour for 1 hooker. Or maybe they prefer a $35 cup of coffee in Switzerland over a $60 bar girl in Pattaya. For most people on this board I assume that mongering is only 1 part and does not consume their total life or is their reason of being.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2620649]Maybe he knows that he does not need more than 2 or 3 women per week. It does not have to be feast or famine. He realizes that middle ground.[/QUOTE]That is the mistake I made my last time in Thailand (early 2020). I had sex anywhere from 0 to 3 times per day, which averaged to about 1.5. times per day. My last several days I was at about 3 per day and that was too much for me (thanks to Viagra) . I'm an old man and that pace was difficult to manage. I would have enjoyed the trip more if I limited myself to 1 per day.
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Swiss Cheese
I just want his take. Thai hookers quickly get tiresome. When I go to SE Asia, I always ensure I have a non hooker project on. I kind of regret that now when I think of the good and cheap hookers I could have spent more time with. That said, a Thai hooker is better than a Swiss coffee. Whatever about pigging out on Thai hookers, I'd be going easy on everything in Switzerland. That said, I have met some Swiss on holidays who are as tight as a mouse's crotch.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2620649]Maybe he knows that he does not need more than 2 or 3 women per week. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2617473]I am planning to go to Thailand November 2. Right now, there isn't enough information to apply for a COE, I hope things will be clearer in a few days.[/QUOTE]Because ThailandPass doesn't come online until November 1, I had to postpone my flight to Thailand until November 10. I have my AQ hotel, my insurance, and my flight, so I have everything to get something off ThailandPass except my RT-PCR test.
I am staying in Bangkok at the Radisson on Sukhumvit, so I can check out the local talent, once I get my test results after landing.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2620594]1. In Pattaya, you are limiting yourself to 2-03 women per week. Why not pig out on them instead? What do you do there for the rest of the time?
[/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of Pattaya but to limit Pattaya to just a big pussy, all you can shag buffet is a mistake.
Is it so hard to believe that some guys actually come to Thailand to relax? Live at a different pace than back home?
There are a lot of things to do here, to visit, to learn, mountains, beaches, waterfalls, caves. I think limiting thailand to just prostitution does not do the place any justice. I mean, 2 weeks here and more than 3 girls a day? Doesn't it get old after 2 or 3 days? Massage, massage, gogo, streetwalker, freelancer. Rinse-repeat like groundhog day.
I think a lot more fun can be had here if you pace yourself and enjoy the many things Thailand has to offer, while still ending up with 1 or 2 girls each day.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2620801]I think a lot more fun can be had here if you pace yourself and enjoy the many things Thailand has to offer, while still ending up with 1 or 2 girls each day.[/QUOTE]When I was younger, still working (stress) and on shorter stays; I was on the 2 x daily plan. Now that I am older, retired (no stress) and on longer stays; I settle in at about the every other day plan.
I have the funds to monger as often as I fancy, so I can always pursue any spontaneous situations that might arise. I also find that with a buffer day (and the proper motivation 555) I do not need ED meds to fall back on, which I much prefer.
And when something is available 24/7/365 and in abundance, there is no need to chase it like it will be your last. YMMV of course.
SL.
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Yes, get out there
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2620801]I'm not a big fan of Pattaya but to limit Pattaya to just a big pussy, all you can shag buffet is a mistake.
Is it so hard to believe that some guys actually come to Thailand to relax? Live at a different pace than back home?
There are a lot of things to do here, to visit, to learn, mountains, beaches, waterfalls, caves. I think limiting thailand to just prostitution does not do the place any justice. I mean, 2 weeks here and more than 3 girls a day? Doesn't it get old after 2 or 3 days? Massage, massage, gogo, streetwalker, freelancer. Rinse-repeat like groundhog day.
I think a lot more fun can be had here if you pace yourself and enjoy the many things Thailand has to offer, while still ending up with 1 or 2 girls each day.[/QUOTE]I agree. I came to Krabi a little before the pandemic and had a blast doing all kinds of things. Went hiking, kayaking, snorkeling, boat trips. Some things can get expensive if you add them up, but no more expensive that the escorts and there are things that cost nothing, like hiking. Still plenty of time for punting.
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Weird questions
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2620594]I have no interest in CIMguy's fantasies as they are not my style. Good luck to him. I am here to get information I could use (though it is too late for me to make an ISG app). COMguy writes, like many others, about these women, like from a checklist (attitude 9/10, bust size 3/10, GFE 1/10 etc) and a lot of guys like that, just as others like the vacuous pussy pervert pics in the Phils threads.
Here are my money-related questions for CIMguy. You constantly stress you are on a budget and I appreciate that.
1. In Pattaya, you are limiting yourself to 2-03 women per week. Why not pig out on them instead? What do you do there for the rest of the time?
2. You stress you are on a budget but you go to Zurich where a cup of coffee costs more than a Thai bonk. Please explain.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]1. I am limiting myself to 2-3 per week because that is all the money I have. I am only working part time this year while I finish my doctorate. As it is, I'll probably run out of money for punting at this rate in March or April. I don't know why a lack of money is confusing to you or why you would attack me for sharing reports. The orgy thing was a joke, that's all. I thought it was clearly a joke.
2. What is this about Zurich? I used to live in Zurich so I didn't need to travel there. Do you think I was taking vacations to Zurich? I was not. I'm a school teacher and I worked there.
You seem to be filling in a lot of info on your own and it's all wrong. Go check my posts about trips to Berlin (cheapest flight from Zurich and cheap girls). I have never had much money. I save and use some of the money for punting. When the money is gone, it's gone. And I don't drink expensive coffee. I drink cheap tea.
I was going to post about the girls I've seen this week, but now I think I shouldn't bother. People complain about no posts about actual punting and girls and then attack someone who tries to do both. Pretty lame.
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CIMGuy, don't let the losers bother you, go ahead and post.
Thailand Pass, I successfully completed my application and am waiting for my QR code. If you have problems with your app, let me know, maybe I can help.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2620867]I was going to post about the girls I've seen this week, but now I think I shouldn't bother. People complain about no posts about actual punting and girls and then attack someone who tries to do both. Pretty lame.[/QUOTE]Please ignore the trolls.
I've been vicariously enjoying your adventures, and would appreciate hearing more.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2621015]Thailand Pass, I successfully completed my application and am waiting for my QR code. If you have problems with your app, let me know, maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]It's my understanding that Thailand Pass is an app. Is that correct? I tried to download it from that App Store, but it wasn't there.
Where did you get your?
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2621177]It's my understanding that Thailand Pass is an app. Is that correct? I tried to download it from that App Store, but it wasn't there.
Where did you get your?[/QUOTE]Thailand Pass is not an app. It's the application form that needs to be completed to get in to Thailand. It replaced the COE.
[URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
The mandatory app I think you are thinking of is the Mor Chana app which can be downloaded from the App store. This is the app you must use once you land in Thailand so they can monitor everywhere you go. Big Brother is watching.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2621182]Thailand Pass is not an app. It's the application form that needs to be completed to get in to Thailand. It replaced the COE.
[URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
The mandatory app I think you are thinking of is the Mor Chana app which can be downloaded from the App store. This is the app you must use once you land in Thailand so they can monitor everywhere you go. Big Brother is watching.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I think it was The Thaiger that said it was an "app" and I interpreted it as a "computer application" (like from the app store) when it really is just an "online application".
I booked mark that URL for future reference. From what I've read so far, it seems very clear. Maybe even simple.
I'm targeting arrival in January or February, provided things continue to improve.
For my travel the flight prices are about the same as February 2020 flights, but connections are much worse so travel time is much longer for me now. What was a 20-hour 2-flight trip in 2020 will be 28-hour 3-flight trip in 2022. Perhaps more flights will be added in the near future.
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Thailand Plus
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2621182]Thailand Pass is not an app. It's the application form that needs to be completed to get in to Thailand. It replaced the COE.
[URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
The mandatory app I think you are thinking of is the Mor Chana app which can be downloaded from the App store. This is the app you must use once you land in Thailand so they can monitor everywhere you go. Big Brother is watching.[/QUOTE]There was an app called Thailand Plus that had an application that you had to fill out before arrival. But when I got here, they had us download a simpler app and fill it out while the were processing us through the airport.
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Just Info
I was not attacking you. Others did and others said to read your posts which I did. I noted the piece about Switzerland and so asked about that as I was intrigued by it. You gave a good answer: not all Swiss are loaded.
As regards limiting yourself to 2-3 hookers per week, that is good too as a lot of guys leave their brains at the airport and their life's savings with one or more hookers.
What people do in privacy with hookers is of no interest to me as it is unlikely I would be with the same hooker and have the same experience with her.
[QUOTE=CIMguy;2620867]1. I am limiting myself to 2-3 per week because that is all the money I have. I am only working part time this year while I finish my doctorate. As it is, I'll probably run out of money for punting at this rate in March or April. I don't know why a lack of money is confusing to you or why you would attack me for sharing reports. The orgy thing was a joke, that's all. I thought it was clearly a joke.
2. What is this about Zurich? I used to live in Zurich so I didn't need to travel there. Do you think I was taking vacations to Zurich? I was not. I'm a school teacher and I worked there.
You seem to be filling in a lot of info on your own and it's all wrong. Go check my posts about trips to Berlin (cheapest flight from Zurich and cheap girls). I have never had much money. I save and use some of the money for punting. When the money is gone, it's gone. And I don't drink expensive coffee. I drink cheap tea.[/QUOTE]
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Planes & QR Code Uploads
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2621015]CIMGuy, don't let the losers bother you, go ahead and post.
Thailand Pass, I successfully completed my application and am waiting for my QR code. If you have problems with your app, let me know, maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]I have explained myself to CIMGuy in an earlier post. I asked valid questions, even if I have no interest in your attempts at porno.
QR Code: Be sure to follow the plane's guidelines carefully both coming and going. A hooker friend of mine got a 5 page checklist for Singapore. Ensure you also have the necessary forms such as locator forms for return. Some airlines get you to upload it all directly, others use outside apps. You also should have hard copies of all forms and a fully charged phone with all apps on it. I check multiple airlines and ferries to ensure I have all paperwork / apps.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2621177]It's my understanding that Thailand Pass is an app. Is that correct? I tried to download it from that App Store, but it wasn't there.
Where did you get your?[/QUOTE][URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
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Bangkok soapies opening?
Hi,
Thanks to you all for the updates on the Thailand scene. Does anyone know if the larger Bangkok soapies such as Emmannuelle and La Belle are showing any signs of life at present? I'm planning a month in BKK ideally arriving mid-Nov but wondering if it'd be best to wait until after Dec 1st. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=SaulGoodman41;2621800]Hi,
Thanks to you all for the updates on the Thailand scene. Does anyone know if the larger Bangkok soapies such as Emmannuelle and La Belle are showing any signs of life at present? I'm planning a month in BKK ideally arriving mid-Nov but wondering if it'd be best to wait until after Dec 1st. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is no sign of life yet for the big soapies or gogos. I don't see them opening until early 2022.
I think everyone is waiting to see what happens in November as far as how many tourists come in. If there is no big spike in cases they will look to open up bars and entertainment places at a later stage.
You can see a little more activity from normal businesses in the tourist areas in anticipation of arrivals. However most business have been shut for 1 1/2 years and many completely gone. The ones that remain are hanging on by a thread so they are very cautious about spending money until they can see the demand arriving. Every time they open and then shut costs money. They have been buring cash for 18 months. No much cash left. The first priority is to get normal activity going. Enterntainment and bars will be the last to open.
Having said all of this. There are many oilies open, albiet with a skeleton staff and are quite tragic at the moment. If tourist numbers start to increase these places will probably be the first to get going and to start building staff.
There are also a few bars that have called themselves restaurants in order to get going. These places are small and nothing like before, not worth coming for.
Unless you are here you would not comprehend the devastaion covid has brought to the tourist areas inlcuding all of lower Sukhumwit, Patpong and Khao san. The entertainment streets are completely shut, it is eerie to walk down them at night. Completely black. They have been like this for 6 months.
Even normal things are eerily quiet. You can get a seat on the BTS in rush hour. There is no tourists here at all.
Thailand is in a holding pattern. I would not jump on a plane right now and expect everything to jump back to normal in weeks. It is going to be a slow build and most people are in a wait and see mode. I think you would have to be very optimistic in wishing to see bars / gogos and soapies open in December, I would think this is maybe a 10% chances. Some time early next year would be a more realistic time scale.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2621015]Thailand Pass, I successfully completed my application and am waiting for my QR code. If you have problems with your app, let me know, maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]You must have horseshoes being able to apply for the Thailand Pass on Day 1. As you likely know there was on API error on Day 1. It's now 2 pm on Nov. 4 and guys still can't get their applications in. I know expats who have been trying to apply since 9 am on Nov 1 and still haven't been able to submit their applications.
Which browser do you use - chrome, firefox, edge, etc? Which email account - Gmail, hotmail, etc?
Personally I haven't bothered trying. Knew this would be a clusterfuck so am waiting til things sort out before applying.
Racshack, please delete some of those Pattaya gogo girl photos in your inbox!
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ThailandPass
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2622037]You must have horseshoes being able to apply for the Thailand Pass on Day 1. As you likely know there was on API error on Day 1. It's now 2 pm on Nov. 4 and guys still can't get their applications in. I know expats who have been trying to apply since 9 am on Nov 1 and still haven't been able to submit their applications.
Which browser do you use? Gmail, hotmail, etc?
Personally I haven't bothered trying. Knew this would be a clusterfuck so am waiting til things sort out before applying.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I tried when they opened the site (very early morning here in Europe). Site froze several times so I gave up after a few tries.
A few hours later I tried again and got onto site and progressed a bit. Then discovered that they would not accept pdf uploads. WT actual F. JPG or one other only, so I gave up 'til later in the day when I could transfer my pdfs to jpg. A real PITA.
Later Nov 1 I tried again and got the successfully accepted message. Now I await the QR code with email 'within 7 working days'.
Wouldn't want to be a worrier or have high blood pressure if you were travelling soon.
BTW: API error seems to have been fixed now and there was a workaround published elsewhere (Involved using Chrome, I believe).
I used Firefox browser and gmail.
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[QUOTE=EdSetra;2622040]Yeah, I tried when they opened the site (very early morning here in Europe). Site froze several times so I gave up after a few tries.
A few hours later I tried again and got onto site and progressed a bit. Then discovered that they would not accept pdf uploads. WT actual F. JPG or one other only, so I gave up 'til later in the day when I could transfer my pdfs to jpg. A real PITA.
Later Nov 1 I tried again and got the successfully accepted message. Now I await the QR code with email 'within 7 working days'.
Wouldn't want to be a worrier or have high blood pressure if you were travelling soon.
BTW: API error seems to have been fixed now and there was a workaround published elsewhere (Involved using Chrome, I believe).
I used Firefox browser and gmail.[/QUOTE]Watching with interest.
I managed to get my COE for the Phuket Sandbox about 8 hours before my flight departed the UK on the 30th of June.
Looking at coming back on the 19th for a couple of weeks. Glutton for punishment!
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2621917]There is no sign of life yet for the big soapies or gogos. I don't see them opening until early 2022.
I think everyone is waiting to see what happens in November as far as how many tourists come in. If there is no big spike in cases they will look to open up bars and entertainment places at a later stage.
You can see a little more activity from normal businesses in the tourist areas in anticipation of arrivals. However most business have been shut for 1 1/2 years and many completely gone. The ones that remain are hanging on by a thread so they are very cautious about spending money until they can see the demand arriving. Every time they open and then shut costs money. They have been buring cash for 18 months. No much cash left. The first priority is to get normal activity going. Enterntainment and bars will be the last to open.
Having said all of this. There are many oilies open, albiet with a skeleton staff and are quite tragic at the moment. If tourist numbers start to increase these places will probably be the first to get going and to start building staff.
There are also a few bars that have called themselves restaurants in order to get going. These places are small and nothing like before, not worth coming for.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info MaxBkk. I hadn't quite realized the extent of how much things have changed and how long it will take for them to recover. I shall take your advice and look to 2022. Regards.
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Flights are not yet stable
Just 2 days ago I bought my January airline ticket to BKK, 28 hours gate to gate. Today I received a revised travel schedule and every flight was changed. The trip is now 40 hours gate to gate. A little research shows that my twice weekly long-haul flight no longer exists. I don't think my body can tolerate a 40-hour gate to gate trip, need to reconsider everything. Getting old sucks. Next I deal with the airline and try to get a full refund. Frustration.
End rant.
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Why are they making such a radical change so far out? I take it you are flying from a large city and not some dirt strip in Yellow Brick Road State. Have they spelled out where the extra hours / lay over is coming from?
I, say, f you intended to fly LAX-Narita-BKK, then they might choose to cancel one leg nearer the date if the traffic was not there (this has happened to me on multiple occasions recently in Europe with different air lines). But this far in advance indicates your carrier is at sea.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2622325]Just 2 days ago I bought my January airline ticket to BKK, 28 hours gate to gate. Today I received a revised travel schedule and every flight was changed. The trip is now 40 hours gate to gate. A little research shows that my twice weekly long-haul flight no longer exists. I don't think my body can tolerate a 40-hour gate to gate trip, need to reconsider everything. Getting old sucks. Next I deal with the airline and try to get a full refund. Frustration.
End rant.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=EdSetra;2622040]Yeah, I tried when they opened the site (very early morning here in Europe). Site froze several times so I gave up after a few tries.
A few hours later I tried again and got onto site and progressed a bit. Then discovered that they would not accept pdf uploads. WT actual F. JPG or one other only, so I gave up 'til later in the day when I could transfer my pdfs to jpg. A real PITA.
Later Nov 1 I tried again and got the successfully accepted message. Now I await the QR code with email 'within 7 working days'.
Wouldn't want to be a worrier or have high blood pressure if you were travelling soon.
BTW: API error seems to have been fixed now and there was a workaround published elsewhere (Involved using Chrome, I believe).
I used Firefox browser and gmail.[/QUOTE]Most of the early problems have been fixed in Thailand Pass, except one: they have a huge backlog, and are not processing apps very quickly.
If you want a QR code fast, just select the Alternative Quarantine option instead of Test and Go, everything is the same, except it works.
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Thailand Pass
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2622365]Most of the early problems have been fixed in Thailand Pass, except one: they have a huge backlog, and are not processing apps very quickly.
If you want a QR code fast, just select the Alternative Quarantine option instead of Test and Go, everything is the same, except it works.[/QUOTE]I applied today for my Thailand pass. From press the button to receive the QR code in my mail took less than an hour.
The hard part was to collect all doc's and convert to jpeg for upload.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2622333]Why are they making such a radical change so far out? I take it you are flying from a large city and not some dirt strip in Yellow Brick Road State. Have they spelled out where the extra hours / lay over is coming from?
I, say, f you intended to fly LAX-Narita-BKK, then they might choose to cancel one leg nearer the date if the traffic was not there (this has happened to me on multiple occasions recently in Europe with different air lines). But this far in advance indicates your carrier is at sea.[/QUOTE]I was only sent a revised itinerary, no explanation. My 2nd of 3 flights was from one huge city to another huge city, long flight. That flight no longer appears on the airline schedule. I don't know why.
I called the airline today and arranged a 100% refund, so that is positive. The agent didn't know why the change was made.
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Thailand Pass
Tried but couldn't find answers.
How long can one stay using the Thailand pass.
Can the stay be extended once here.
Many thanks.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2623213]Tried but couldn't find answers.
How long can one stay using the Thailand pass.
Can the stay be extended once here.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Thailand Pass does not give you a visa. Your first step is to get a visa, or decide to enter Visa Exempt. If you choose the latter, tell Thailand Pass you are staying for 30 days.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2623213]Tried but couldn't find answers.
How long can one stay using the Thailand pass.
Can the stay be extended once here.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]For me it is 30 days, however I think that is related to Visa rules more than the Thailand pass. Normally we have 30 days on arrival.
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Depends where you are from
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2623213]Tried but couldn't find answers.
How long can one stay using the Thailand pass.
Can the stay be extended once here.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Some people have 30 days and some have 45 days. They have special rules right now allowing you to extend your stay another 30 days with a quick trip the immigration office and a 1000 bht fee. I will be going to do that again and I think there is more involved the second time. I can report here when I find out how it works.
The Phuket office right off beach road in Patong was pretty easy. Get there before 3 pm because the lady who does the visa extensions leaves at that time. One note, let them do the visa copies there for 100 bht or whatever it is. The nearest place to get copies will take you an hour and / or cost you more than 100 bht in taxis. Several of us didn't understand that he could do the copies there and almost left to get them done near the hospital. It's much quicker and easier to have him do it.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2623265]Thailand Pass does not give you a visa. Your first step is to get a visa, or decide to enter Visa Exempt. If you choose the latter, tell Thailand Pass you are staying for 30 days.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I am about to fall down that rabbit hole and was sure that I read that during the process you will choose your length of stay, which equals a visa or no visa for 30 days. For example I intend to stay 60 days that translates to a tourist visa. Once in country you can always extend by 30 days for a fee. I think it's 1900 baht. If you don't get your visa through Thailand Pass, where do you get it "first?
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2623608]If you don't get your visa through Thailand Pass, where do you get it "first?[/QUOTE]The Thai embassy or consulate as has always been the case. Unless you are eligible for visa on arrival, in which case you get it from the immigration agent when you arrive at the airport in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2623608]Are you sure? I am about to fall down that rabbit hole and was sure that I read that during the process you will choose your length of stay, which equals a visa or no visa for 30 days. For example I intend to stay 60 days that translates to a tourist visa. Once in country you can always extend by 30 days for a fee. I think it's 1900 baht. If you don't get your visa through Thailand Pass, where do you get it "first?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrScand;2622616]I applied today for my Thailand pass. From press the button to receive the QR code in my mail took less than an hour.[/QUOTE]There is very quick 'automatic' approval for Thailand Pass if you completed your app correctly and Thailand has received the pki (public key infrastructure) from your country.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2623622][URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL][/QUOTE]Attention: Due to system upgrade, Thai e-Visa service will be temporarily unavailable from 10 December 2021 at 11.00 AM to 12 December 2021 at 11.00 PM (UTC). Should there be any enquiries, please contact Thai Embassy / Consulate at your country of residence.
A truly "only in Thailand moment".
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2623816]Thai e-Visa service will be temporarily unavailable from 10 December 2021 at 11.00 AM to 12 December 2021 at 11.00 PM (UTC).[/QUOTE]Pretty impressive they can predict a system upgrade over a month away. Luckily I'll already be in Thailand by December 10.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2623265]Thailand Pass does not give you a visa. Your first step is to get a visa, or decide to enter Visa Exempt. If you choose the latter, tell Thailand Pass you are staying for 30 days.[/QUOTE]Lovely people, great food, world class hotels and resorts whether you enjoy mountains or beaches, interesting entertaining nightlife but is there a more chaotic confusing immigration department on the planet?
Thanks to all who responded.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2623475]Some people have 30 days and some have 45 days. .[/QUOTE]Any idea on what makes the difference. If arriving from UK is it 30 or 45 ?
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2623622][URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Silly me, somehow I thought Thai Pass would be 1 stop shopping. I get it now.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2623866]Any idea on what makes the difference. If arriving from UK is it 30 or 45 ?[/QUOTE]I believe when 14 day quarantine was in place they would add 15 days to your normal 30 days stay. So your stay on arrival was 45 days. 15 days being the actual time of quarantine as the first day did not count.
Now that quarantine is no longer required they should revert back to 30 days on arrival.
Having said that, it is a little messy right now to what is exactly happening and when the dust settles it will be much clearer.
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I read a guy who tested positive is now in hospital for at least 10 days. He is asymptomatic. "Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won't cover it. " The gamble one has to take going to Thailand right now.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2626858]The level of antibodies and therefore protection from serious illness seemingly does decline round about 6 months after initial full vaccination, hence the importance of the booster. Whether you are also more likely to become infected and more likely to transmit as far as I can tell is still not fully understood but true or not it's a common belief in Thailand that Sinovac loses on both scores within 6 months.[/QUOTE]This is a reply from the Bangkok thread.
Yes, the concepts you describe are valid, but the time frame is not universally agreed. There was a USA study that shows about 50% of initial protection after 6 months, but there is a British study that shows very little loss of protection after 6 months. Sorry that I can't find the link to the reference, this is something I read about a week ago. Both studies were for mRNA vaccines, one addressed only Pfizer while the other addressed both Pfizer and Moderna, I can't remember which was which.
To boost or not to boost is another decision point for those who trust vaccines and those who don't.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2627398]This is a reply from the Bangkok thread.
Yes, the concepts you describe are valid, but the time frame is not universally agreed. There was a USA study that shows about 50% of initial protection after 6 months, but there is a British study that shows very little loss of protection after 6 months. Sorry that I can't find the link to the reference, this is something I read about a week ago. Both studies were for mRNA vaccines, one addressed only Pfizer while the other addressed both Pfizer and Moderna, I can't remember which is which.
This is another decision point for those who trust vaccines and those who don't.[/QUOTE]The studies that you refer to were published in the The Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine. The general conclusion was that Pfizer's efficacy reduced from 90% to 50% after 6 months against infection, but still at 90% protection against serious desease. Moderna's efficacy was at about 70% after 6 months. Althought both mRna vaccines are very similar, Pfizer uses about 30 units of the active component while Moderna uses 100 units. So it stands to reason that because Moderna uses 3 times the dose it will wane slower.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2627406]The studies that you refer to were published in the The Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine. The general conclusion was that Pfizer's efficacy reduced from 90% to 50% after 6 months against infection, but still at 90% protection against serious desease. Moderna's efficacy was at about 70% after 6 months. Althought both mRna vaccines are very similar, Pfizer uses about 30 units of the active component while Moderna uses 100 units. So it stands to reason that because Moderna uses 3 times the dose it will wane slower.[/QUOTE]I read a lot of stuff and then cannot remember the source, which can be a problem in a world full of fake information. Thanks for that good comment.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2624958]I read a guy who tested positive is now in hospital for at least 10 days. He is asymptomatic. "Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won't cover it. " The gamble one has to take going to Thailand right now.[/QUOTE]Is there a reason to think this Covid insurance we have to take out to get entry clearance into Thailand won't cover us if we actually need it?
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2621015]CIMGuy, don't let the losers bother you, go ahead and post.
Thailand Pass, I successfully completed my application and am waiting for my QR code. If you have problems with your app, let me know, maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]Having met and shared a drink and active discussion on punting targets with CIMguy I'm pretty well qualified to speak on him. For a stranger he's not a bad guy, as likely I was to him. We discussed our "grand game" and how to play it, and he was no naive novice. He has a plan and knew how to execute it. Sometimes it worked.
Sometimes it didn't. I know he still wishes he did different on night and took Earn's sister when he had the chance. Alas he didn't, and the chance didn't return. Whereas I know if she was 50% or more akin to Earn he would have enjoyed it more!
Keep punting (CIMguy) mate.
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Bars will open nationwide on January 16, assuming no disasters before then. There will be some restrictions. Some will be followed, others will be ignored.
The one night quarantine for vaccinated arrivals will end on December 15. There will be an ATK test on arrival, rather than a PCR test.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2627406]The studies that you refer to were published in the The Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine. The general conclusion was that Pfizer's efficacy reduced from 90% to 50% after 6 months against infection, but still at 90% protection against serious desease. Moderna's efficacy was at about 70% after 6 months. Althought both mRna vaccines are very similar, Pfizer uses about 30 units of the active component while Moderna uses 100 units. So it stands to reason that because Moderna uses 3 times the dose it will wane slower.[/QUOTE]In other words, if you have had two shots of Moderna, it is equivalent to six shots of Pfizer. It is also not surprising that people have more side effects from Moderna. But personally I would rather have side effects than covid.
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Shots
[QUOTE=Cucumber;2631316]In other words, if you have had two shots of Moderna, it is equivalent to six shots of Pfizer. It is also not surprising that people have more side effects from Moderna. But personally I would rather have side effects than covid.[/QUOTE]I thought you were speaking of whiskeywhisky. Would it not depend on what those side effects were? I had Covid last August and have done some heavy duty physical stuff since. Not Boot Camp but enough to impress people 1/3 my age. I don't want side effects. I am preparing for the issues that lie ahead as New Nazis tighten the noose.
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[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2627722]Is there a reason to think this Covid insurance we have to take out to get entry clearance into Thailand won't cover us if we actually need it?[/QUOTE]
For entry, you're only required to have insurance covering Covid with symptoms.
Plenty of policies do not include "asymptomatic Covid", you have to pay more to cover that. Even if they cover it, current rules are to detain and isolate everyone seated within 2 rows ahead and behind anyone that tests positive. I'm fairly sure it doesn't fall under "asymptomatic", but presumably you could pay even more for that coverage.
Last, but not least, even if something is nominally covered, it might be an uphill battle to get the insurer to pay out the claim.
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2 to 6
[QUOTE=Cucumber;2631316]In other words, if you have had two shots of Moderna, it is equivalent to six shots of Pfizer. It is also not surprising that people have more side effects from Moderna. But personally I would rather have side effects than covid.[/QUOTE]Total crap.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2631387]Total crap.[/QUOTE]Since this the Covid rants topic, what part of the opinion you responded to is crap?
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2631351]….current rules are to detain and isolate everyone seated within 2 rows ahead and behind anyone that tests positive. …[/QUOTE]That is consistent with rumors, but have you seen it printed by a trustworthy source?
That is my #1 concern with the whole entry system. One person tests positive and about 45 people get locked up.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2631429]That is consistent with rumors, but have you seen it printed by a trustworthy source?
That is my #1 concern with the whole entry system. One person tests positive and about 45 people get locked up.[/QUOTE]They definitely used to do this when entering the Phuket sandbox. There was a well german lady that appeared on various news outlets that this happened to. She appeared on the Thaiger as a video interview while in her isolation hotel.
However, I don't believe they still do this since dropping the quarantine requirement.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2631067]The one night quarantine for vaccinated arrivals will end on December 15. There will be an ATK test on arrival, rather than a PCR test.[/QUOTE]I expect that to be postponed any time soon due to the new omicron variant, they will need to discover how bad it really is before restrictions are relaxed any further.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2631494]They definitely used to do this when entering the Phuket sandbox. There was a well german lady that appeared on various news outlets that this happened to. She appeared on the Thaiger as a video interview while in her isolation hotel.
However, I don't believe they still do this since dropping the quarantine requirement.[/QUOTE]Thank you, this is important information. Moments ago I purchased my January tickets and I'm worried about getting locked up upon arrival. I bought just one night in a Test and Go hotel, hope that I don't need more than that.
This is a good place for people to post Thai COVID travel information, especially links to formally published information.
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Wtf
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2631610]Thank you, this is important information. Moments ago I purchased my January tickets and I'm worried about getting locked up upon arrival. I bought just one night in a Test and Go hotel, hope that I don't need more than that.
This is a good place for people to post Thai COVID travel information, especially links to formally published information.[/QUOTE]Hi Horse,
I am in a similar boat. I booked a flight to BKK from Australia earlier this week and was prepared for one night quarantine and was further encouraged by a recent post by that pest Explorer (he appears more recently to have moderated his posts however) but with Omicron now apparent I fear having to go inside for the whole 14 days as before.
Changes everything! Johnie.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2632061]I postponed my trip.[/QUOTE]That is a strong possibility with me too. I paid about 15% extra to book fully refundable airline tickets and my hotel bookings will also be refundable or pay at hotel.
Nothing is certain.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2631429]That is consistent with rumors, but have you seen it printed by a trustworthy source?
That is my #1 concern with the whole entry system. One person tests positive and about 45 people get locked up.[/QUOTE]Article from Nov 12:
[URL]https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/government-considers-easing-entry-rules-antigen-testing-may-replace-pcr-test[/URL]
The key bit: "CCSA will also review the rule that currently requires travellers who sat 2 rows behind or in front of an infected passenger to be moved to quarantine facilities. ".
So, that rule is currently in force, but they might eventually relax it.
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If you can book your seats in the first row or the last row of each section on the plane to decrease the number of rows that may affect you. That is, don't sit in the middle of the plane! If I book business class on a lay flat seat I should be exempt from this 2 row rule, shouldn't I?
Now is not the time for Thailand to be relaxing flight rules and quarantine.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2632241]If you can book your seats in the first row or the last row of each section on the plane to decrease the number of rows that may affect you. That is, don't sit in the middle of the plane! If I book business class on a lay flat seat I should be exempt from this 2 row rule, shouldn't I?[/QUOTE]Good point! I just changed my seat to use your concept for my flight leg that arrives in BKK.
This has always been a silly rule. You might spend 17 hours on a flight from Chicago to Hong Kong surrounded by sick people and Thailand will never know. But, you spend 2.5 hours from Hong Kong to BKK with one sick person 2 rows away on the other side of the airplane and you get quarantined for 2 weeks.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2632272]This has always been a silly rule. You might spend 17 hours on a flight from Chicago to Hong Kong surrounded by sick people and Thailand will never know. But, you spend 2.5 hours from Hong Kong to BKK with one sick person 2 rows away on the other side of the airplane and you get quarantined for 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]No sillier than the rule some places of a person being able to enter an establishment solely based on the fact that they have a vaccine card when they could just as well have the disease and a person not being able to enter without the card when they could just as well not have the disease. Why is there more importance placed on having the vaccine than actually having the disease?
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Control
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2632379]. Why is there more importance placed on having the vaccine than actually having the disease or not?[/QUOTE]Control Control Control.
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I heard the antigen test is scrapped and it's back to mandatory RT-PCR test and I assume 1 night hotel quarantine on arrival.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2632628]I heard the antigen test is scrapped and it's back to mandatory RT-PCR test and I assume 1 night hotel quarantine on arrival.[/QUOTE]Yep, you got that right! Personally, the way the leaders have been and will continue going about handling this pandemic unless Thailand is an anchor to you I would stay away than being put through this be. S. This would be the last place I would visit I not being a world traveler coming from California if I needed pussy that bad would rather head south and let the Mexicans screw me over!
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Those of you who haven't gone through the process of completing an eVisa and Thailand Pass are in for a treat. It's nothing tricky but just bothersome and it takes time as well as timing. Give yourself AT LEAST 2 weeks to complete this process. There are no instructions on what they are asking for so it's all guesswork unless you do hours of research on a site like AN. You have to take a selfie with you holding your passport in the exact pose they want you to be in and showing exactly what they want to see on your passport, knowing to take a photo of a blank page on your passport if you haven't travelled internationally in the past 12 months, converting every single pdf attachment to a jpg, bank statement, proof of income, having to book AQ hotels directly with the AQ hotel where there is lost in translation, people having problems paying because they are using Chrome or not using a gmail account, etc. Yes, you can book through Agoda but make damn sure you are paying for a true Test and Go package. Many hotels are selling hotel nights without the Test and Go package. A true Test and Go package will cost at least 4000 baht for 1 night but most are in the 6000-7000 baht range. If you have booked a regular hotel and not a Test and Go you will be denied at the Thai border and will have to purchase the NEXT flight out of Thailand back to where you came from no matter what the cost.
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Test and go
I arrived Phuket today and have to say it was a quite smooth experience. Well organized and a fast process. Out in the cab to my hotel within less than an hour and that includes waiting for the luggage.
During the PCR test at airport they handed over some kind of rapid test to bring. Though, they forgot to explain when to use it and what to do with it when used?
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Self test
[QUOTE=MrScand;2632738]I arrived Phuket today and have to say it was a quite smooth experience. Well organized and a fast process. Out in the cab to my hotel within less than an hour and that includes waiting for the luggage.
During the PCR test at airport they handed over some kind of rapid test to bring. Though, they forgot to explain when to use it and what to do with it when used?[/QUOTE]Ask your hotel. Mine said I should take it on the sixth day, take a photo of the result and send it to the hotel. I had never tried a self test before this, so I just watched a YouTube video explaining how to do it.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2632729]Those of you who haven't gone through the process of completing an eVisa and Thailand Pass are in for a treat. It's nothing tricky but just bothersome and it takes time as well as timing. Give yourself AT LEAST 2 weeks to complete this process. There are no instructions on what they are asking for so it's all guesswork unless you do hours of research on a site like AN. You have to take a selfie with you holding your passport in the exact pose they want you to be in and showing exactly what they want to see on your passport, knowing to take a photo of a blank page on your passport if you haven't travelled internationally in the past 12 months, converting every single pdf attachment to a jpg, bank statement, proof of income, having to book AQ hotels directly with the AQ hotel where there is lost in translation, people having problems paying because they are using Chrome or not using a gmail account, etc. Yes, you can book through Agoda but make damn sure you are paying for a true Test and Go package. Many hotels are selling hotel nights without the Test and Go package. A true Test and Go package will cost at least 4000 baht for 1 night but most are in the 6000-7000 baht range. If you have booked a regular hotel and not a Test and Go you will be denied at the Thai border and will have to purchase the NEXT flight out of Thailand back to where you came from no matter what the cost.[/QUOTE]The Thailand Pass part is not to hard if you have everything ready, images of your passport, Test & Go hotel reservation, a vaccination certificate, and separate QR images for each vaccination. If you have all of those you can get the pass in a few hours.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2633065]The Thailand Pass part is not to hard if you have everything ready, images of your passport, Test & Go hotel reservation, a vaccination certificate, and separate QR images for each vaccination. If you have all of those you can get the pass in a few hours.[/QUOTE]How long did it take you to get the Letter of Confirmation from your hotel? If it was quick please share with me / us which Test and Go hotel you booked with. How long did it take you to get your eVisa approved? Which Visa did you apply for? It's the eVisa that takes time, not the actual Thailand Pass. Thailand Pass is approved within hours for many countries with QR codes for vaccines.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2633102]How long did it take you to get the Letter of Confirmation from your hotel? If it was quick please share with me / us which Test and Go hotel you booked with. How long did it take you to get your eVisa approved? Which Visa did you apply for? It's the eVisa that takes time, not the actual Thailand Pass. Thailand Pass is approved within hours for many countries with QR codes for vaccines.[/QUOTE]For large hotels, you can book directly on their website, you get instant confirmation and an email follow quickly. Just look on the ASQ / SHA list which hotels you like and check if you can book directly online. That's how I booked in Bangkok and it was also clearly distinguished on the website between test and go package reservation and regular reservation.
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[QUOTE=ElFrances;2633134]For large hotels, you can book directly on their website, you get instant confirmation and an email follow quickly. Just look on the ASQ / SHA list which hotels you like and check if you can book directly online. That's how I booked in Bangkok and it was also clearly distinguished on the website between test and go package reservation and regular reservation.[/QUOTE]How long did it take for you to get the Letter of Confirmation? If you got it quickly, which hotel was it (PM me if you wish)?
I contacted over 10 hotels of choice from the AQ hotel sites well over 2 weeks ago. All but one were 4 or 5 star hotels. One just got back to me yesterday. Some have yet to reply.
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Thailand hunting down 783 missing Africans who came in on flights since November 15. Should that even be an issue if they are using the Mor Chana app?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2633139]Thailand hunting down 783 missing Africans who came in on flights since November 15. Should that even be an issue if they are using the Mor Chana app?[/QUOTE]The press release went something like: "no need to panic, all 783 missing africans are in Bangkok, they have not moved to other areas", friggin hilarious.
Guaranteed the Omicron variant is already in Bangkok and circulating through the community.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2633137]How long did it take for you to get the Letter of Confirmation? If you got it quickly, which hotel was it (PM me if you wish)?
I contacted over 10 hotels of choice from the AQ hotel sites well over 2 weeks ago. All but one were 4 or 5 star hotels. One just got back to me yesterday. Some have yet to reply.[/QUOTE]I've had a similar problem with test and go at my favored BKK hotel. I sent email to hotel requesting clarification and some additional details. Received a quick reply that was clear and complete. Turned out to be useless since the hotel's website was inconsistent with the email guidance.
I would also appreciate the name of a specific hotel that has the test and go bugs worked out. Ideally will be between Cowboy and Nana plaza.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2633233]I would also appreciate the name of a specific hotel that has the test and go bugs worked out. Ideally will be between Cowboy and Nana plaza.[/QUOTE]I was happy with Aloft Bangkok Sukhumvit 11 for my 1-day quarantine. They emailed me the required letter within 24 hours of booking, without my having to ask.
I found it listed on here: [URL]https://asq.in.th/[/URL].
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4 Links for Travel to Thailand
[QUOTE=Thomas9;2633234]I was happy with Aloft Bangkok Sukhumvit 11 for my 1-day quarantine. They emailed me the required letter within 24 hours of booking, without my having to ask.
I found it listed on here: [URL]https://asq.in.th/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I'm still in the process of dealing with this stuff for my next trip. Thanks to those who first found these links, I'm just copying here for anybody who needs them:
Thailand Pass: [URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL].
Thailand E-Visa: [URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL].
Test and go hotels: [URL]https://asq.in.th/[/URL].
COVID Insurance: [URL]https://asq.in.th/thailand-covid-insurance/[/URL].
I remember some sort of notice about the E-Visa website going down for a few days, perhaps about now. It doesn't work at the moment, but it worked in the past and I expect it will work again in a few days.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2633292]I remember some sort of notice about the E-Visa website going down for a few days, perhaps about now. It doesn't work at the moment, but it worked in the past and I expect it will work again in a few days.[/QUOTE]Next week. It's working now.
[QUOTE]Due to system upgrade, Thai e-Visa service will be temporarily unavailable from 10 December 2021 at 11.00 AM to 12 December 2021 at 11.00 PM (UTC). Should there be any enquiries, please contact Thai Embassy/Consulate at your country of residence.[/QUOTE]
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Insurance
Hello,
Just asking if anyone knows.
I got my insurance cover from [URL]1cover.com.au[/URL].
They are advertising that it covers for Covid etc.
But a threads ago, HorseTrader Included a link for insurance coverage by other.
Thailand approved company's.
Am I to use one of these company's or will my 1 cover insurance policy suffice?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=ChocoJelly;2634145]Hello,
Just asking if anyone knows.
I got my insurance cover from [URL]1cover.com.au[/URL].
They are advertising that it covers for Covid etc.
But a threads ago, HorseTrader Included a link for insurance coverage by other.
Thailand approved company's.
Am I to use one of these company's or will my 1 cover insurance policy suffice?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]All you need is an insurance policy that states that you are covered for at least $50,000 of medical, it does not have to be from Thailand and does not require a statement that it covers Covid. I have my Thailand pass with that.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2634314]All you need is an insurance policy that states that you are covered for at least $50,000 of medical, it does not have to be from Thailand and does not require a statement that it covers Covid. I have my Thailand pass with that.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info.
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South Africa study shows double vaccinated Pfizer is 33% effective for Omicron. That's not good.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2638096]South Africa study shows double vaccinated Pfizer is 33% effective for Omicron. That's not good.[/QUOTE]If I recall correctly, some USA data demonstrated certain antibodies increased by a factor of 25 after a booster shot. The context of that report was Omicron, but it certainly wasn't a direct statement that the booster gave huge protection against Omicron.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2638096]South Africa study shows double vaccinated Pfizer is 33% effective for Omicron. That's not good.[/QUOTE]I just saw the same report, which also stated that double Pfizer is 70% effective at preventing hospitilizations from Omicron.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2638110]If I recall correctly, some USA data demonstrated certain antibodies increased by a factor of 25 after a booster shot. The context of that report was Omicron, but it certainly wasn't a direct statement that the booster gave huge protection against Omicron.[/QUOTE]I got my booster this morning.
I expect to be protected from Omicron for at least 6 weeks.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2638096]South Africa study shows double vaccinated Pfizer is 33% effective for Omicron. That's not good.[/QUOTE]33% efficacy AR preventing covid infection.
70% efficacy of preventing serious illness.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2638200]I just saw the same report, which also stated that double Pfizer is 70% effective at preventing hospitilizations from Omicron.[/QUOTE]New Pfizer pill is 89% effective. Its 6% less than those super shots. I cannot trust this mega corporation anymore. They are doing progress in reverse.
I intended to get my first shot at it but when I read that South Korea with a 90% of the general pop hooked on pfizer was experiencing a surge in hospitalization while omicron has replaced delta, I backed away.
I intend to make up for my loss shots by getting a super jab with 10 xbillion spike protein; Hope this will get me thru the winter.
Anyway, things are looking much better now. We can travel freely without mask and tests. I can't thank Pfizer enough for that.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2638452]33% efficacy AR preventing covid infection.
70% efficacy of preventing serious illness.[/QUOTE]Both are better than ZERO.
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The WHO reported that the Total Number of Confirmed Omicron Deaths as of Dec 10 was ZERO.
Update: One Omicron Death as of Dec 14.
I leave it to each one of of us to interpret this information and assess the risk.
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Tourism ministry unveils portal to assist visitors
Thailand has launched a new tourism website, aiming to make travel to the country easier for the 8-15 million tourists expected to visit next year.
The central platform, named [URL=http://entrythailand.go.th/en/]Entry Thailand[/URL] includes necessary information before arrival, providing basic information and documents that tourists have to prepare in advance with complete links to third-party organizations involved with entry requirements, websites for authorized SHA+ hotels, COVID-19 insurance, Thailand Pass registration and MorChana ‒ the official tracking app.
Source: [URL=https://www.thephuketnews.com/tourism-ministry-unveils-portal-to-assist-visitors-82396.php]The Phuket News[/URL].
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My concern is not being hospitalized or dying. First reports are the Omicron virus cases are more mild. Issue is you are much more susceptible to getting COVID now between the time you took your RT-PCR test at home and at the Test and Go hotel. 33% vs. 95% efficacy.
Don't think many of us would have taken Sinovac in the Western World and even Sinovac efficacy vs Delta was around 50%.
[QUOTE=Spiroulegroom;2638505]I can't thank Pfizer enough for that.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling many guys here wouldn't even be going to Thailand without Pfizer's PE pill.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2638735]My concern is not being hospitalized or dying. First reports are the Omicron virus cases are more mild. Issue is you are much more susceptible to getting COVID now between the time you took your RT-PCR test at home and at the Test and Go hotel. 33% vs. 95% efficacy.[/QUOTE]I object to the test on arrival too. But I am not that worried about testing positive upon arrival after testing negative before the flight. I personally just don't like the Thai government imposing this requirement on me. I find it demeaning and ungracious especially since I, as a visitor, would be about to dump a whole lot of hard currency into the Thai economy.
I can't help the way I feel. I just find the idea of travelling for 24 hours on a plane from Florida, arriving in BKK at around 10 pm, getting tested and forced to wait for results in a Go hotel instead of doing my thing which is to collect my bags, grab a taxi, check into my hotel, shave / shower, change clothes and be out on the Street looking for girls by midnight, unacceptable. That's why I will be flying back to SP for a third time in a year. Maybe I will return to LOS in the fall or sometime in 2023 or maybe never.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2638735]I have a feeling many guys here wouldn't even be going to Thailand without Pfizer's PE pill.[/QUOTE]... and the whole P4P industry would be much smaller. Thailand tourism would also take a noticeable hit.
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The Health Minister is saying that Test and Go will be scrapped and they will go back to the quarantine system.
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Thai govt considering to suspend test and go scheme
Currently under discussion.
Due to increased number of new variant entering Thailand despite visitors testing negative on arrival.
A decision should be available by tonight.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2640521]The Health Minister is saying that Test and Go will be scrapped and they will go back to the quarantine system.[/QUOTE]Yikes! Can you provide a reference link?
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2640675]Yikes! Can you provide a reference link?[/QUOTE]It's not official yet but seems like it will happen. Time for everyone to cancel their trips and go to Cambodia.
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Rant
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2640680]It's not official yet but seems like it will happen. Time for everyone to cancel their trips and go to Cambodia.[/QUOTE]The travel world is driving me nuts. First I buy tickets on Cathay Pacific, but a little later they rerouted me to an unacceptable schedule. I cancel and have refund verbally approved. Next I buy tickets on British Airways, but they stop flying to BKK and they give me unacceptable rerouting via Qatar. I cancel and have refund verbally approved. Shortly before Explorer made his post, I bought from Lufthansa. If this 7-day quarantine actually happens, I might cancel those tickets too.
At the moment, I have the bills for 3 round trip flights on my credit card. I hope the formal refunds come soon.
End rant.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2640675]Yikes! Can you provide a reference link?[/QUOTE][URL]https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1472771217648394241[/URL]
"The Minister of Public Health is proposing for Test & Go to be scrapped and quarantine brought back for all international arrivals. This is despite the fact that only 0. 14% of Test & Go arrivals tested positive. Even talking aloud about this plan will be disastrous for tourism."
[URL]https://www.matichon.co.th/covid19/news_3094960[/URL]
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International Travel
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2640704]The travel world is driving me nuts. First I buy tickets on Cathay Pacific, but a little later they rerouted me to an unacceptable schedule. I cancel and have refund verbally approved. Next I buy tickets on British Airways, but they stop flying to BKK and they give me unacceptable rerouting via Qatar. I cancel and have refund verbally approved. Shortly before Explorer made his post, I bought from Lufthansa. If this 7-day quarantine actually happens, I might cancel those tickets too.
At the moment, I have the bills for 3 round trip flights on my credit card. I hope the formal refunds come soon..[/QUOTE]International travel is a real shitshow now and Omicron may change everything on a moments notice. Since I'm older I don't know how many trips I have left in me. I'm pissed off. Thailand is my preferred destination but, with everything closed, I won't go there until after reopening and I don't see that happening until late spring / summer. Is anyplace easy to visit now?
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2640704]The travel world is driving me nuts.[/QUOTE]It's Thailand, not the world. Friends of mine are going everywhere except Thailand. Brazil, Medellin, Germany, Cambodia, Indonesia, Canada, etc. Hobby spots are open in these countries with few barriers to entry. These governments don't have weekly knee jerk reactions not thinking about how it affects those interested in coming to their country. Thailand regularly report they want fewer regular tourists and only want investors who can afford 10s of millions. I think they're getting the first part of their wish at least.
Anyone on the ground in Pattaya and Bangkok can attest very few tourists have arrived in Thailand even with the Test and Go.
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Test and Go
Thailand is getting about 10,000 international arrivals per day. About 80% are arriving on the Test and Go program. Only 0.2% are testing positive (reference Richard Barrow's )
If that gets scrapped, and it looks like it will, then the arrival numbers will drop to 2,000 to 4,000 per day. What little tourists that were here will soon be gone again.
The tourist companies that started back up again will probably have to close again.
The biggest issue is the lack of clear messaging. One minister says something, then it goes through the process and may or may not come into affect a week later. Very hard to plan anything when no one knows what the rules are.
The is little doubt the Omnicron variant is in Thailand and spreading. In a few weeks Thailand will most likely see a new surge start, the rest of the world is just a few weeks ahead.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2640791]It's Thailand, not the world. Friends of mine are going everywhere except Thailand. Brazil, Medellin, Germany, Cambodia, Indonesia, Canada, etc. Hobby spots are open in these countries with few barriers to entry. These governments don't have weekly knee jerk reactions …. [/QUOTE]I give Thailand credit for keeping people alive. Much fewer per capita COVID cases and deaths than other destinations, such as Brazil. The expense being economic. The various nations count cases and deaths differently, so there is some uncertainty in that. Nevertheless, I will feel safer in Thailand than other countries, assuming I actually go.
[QUOTE=Allover;2640714]…. Since I'm older I don't know how many trips I have left in me. I'm pissed off. Thailand is my preferred destination but, with everything closed, I won't go there until after reopening and I don't see that happening until late spring / summer. …[/QUOTE]I'm in the same situation, I finally have the time and money to enjoy the best of Thailand, but COVID is taking that away (twice per year trips of 45 to 60 days, each). The other worry for old punters is the likelihood of outliving our dicks. On the bright side is that I have one 85 year old friend who is still an active punter, but no more than 2 or 3 times per week (very healthy life style).
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Test and Go is scrapped. No new applications will be processed. Existing QR codes will still be valid.
Merry Christmas.
They timed it so people who planned to come after January 7 will have to do quarantine.
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Thai Pass System Temporarily Stopped
The Prime Minister just announceed that the thai Pass system, which allows entry into to Thailand at the moment, will stop accepting new applications. The 90,000 people who already have a Thailand Pass will be allowed to enter, but no new applications will be accepted.
The official announcement will be made on Friday where further details will be announced. The Phuket Sandbox entry system will probably remain as well as new quarantine entry requirements will be announced.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2641052]The Prime Minister just announceed that the thai Pass system, which allows entry into to Thailand at the moment, will stop accepting new applications. The 90,000 people who already have a Thailand Pass will be allowed to enter, but no new applications will be accepted.[/QUOTE]Technically you still have nearly 5 hours (midnight BKK time) to register for your Thailand Pass. If not registered, you're SOL.
Heard 5 people who arrived in Phuket yesterday tested positive for the Omicron variant, even though they had a negative RT-PCR test before their flight. American, Swede, German, Thai, and French. Scary part is they were on different flights. Wonder how many others who sat around them will also require mandatory hospitalization.
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Wavering Thai Government policies on entry are very difficult to understand. Omicron is fast spreading, but not nearly as dangerous as it's preceding variants. To date I believe only 1 person in the world has died from it. There are now medicines for dealing with Covid infections that did not exist a year ago. It is their country and they can do what they want. I just find it very frustrating. The error in the the policy seems to be that in the long run, at some future date, the Thai government will have to open the border and thus expose it's people. Covid is the gift that keeps on giving. It is going to be around in some form for a long time to come.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641117]Wavering Thai Government policies on entry are very difficult to understand. Omicron is fast spreading, but not nearly as dangerous as it's preceding variants. To date I believe only 1 person in the world has died from it. There are now medicines for dealing with Covid infections that did not exist a year ago. It is their country and they can do what they want. I just find it very frustrating. The error in the the policy seems to be that in the long run, at some future date, the Thai government will have to open the border and thus expose it's people. Covid is the gift that keeps on giving. It is going to be around in some form for a long time to come.[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
So let's say you are vaccinated but catch Omicron. You little sick, so have to stay home from work 3-5 days. Or you can go to work and reinfect others. But this is Omicron. You can get infected again and again. Keep staying home from work 3-5 days each time or go and reinfect others because you think it's not too bad. Now multiply that by tens of millions of people that keep reinfecting each other. What do you think happens to an entire country? What about the healthcare system? Inflation? Debt? You know when it comes to government it's always about a plus minus in the revenue, not death. See cigarettes.
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2641158]….Or you can go to work and reinfect others. But this is Omicron. You can get infected again and again. Keep staying home from work 3-5 days each time …. [/QUOTE]Are you sure about an individual getting reinfected with the identical virus? With other viruses, once you beat it you have immunity from that virus. Depending on the exact virus, that immunity may last a few months but it may last a lifetime.
What's different about omicron so that the same individual can get it again and again?
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2641158]So let's say you are vaccinated but catch Omicron. You little sick, so have to stay home from work 3-5 days. Or you can go to work and reinfect others. But this is Omicron. You can get infected again and again. Keep staying home from work 3-5 days each time or go and reinfect others because you think it's not too bad. [/QUOTE]I see your point!
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2641184]Are you sure about an individual getting reinfected with the identical virus? With other viruses, once you beat it you have immunity from that virus. Depending on the exact virus, that immunity may last a few months but it may last a lifetime.
What's different about omicron so that the same individual can get it again and again?[/QUOTE]Immunity means you are more likely to avoid a catastrophic outcome, not that you can't catch the same virus again.
Omicron has (so far) proven to be more contagious, but far less virulent.
SL.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2641220]Immunity means you are more likely to avoid a catastrophic outcome, not that you can't catch the same virus again.[/QUOTE]Well that is not what the dictionary seems to think.
So if I am immune from prosecution it means I can still be prosecuted but it will not be that bad?
See that prefix im- means not. Impossible, Immeasurable, Impolite, Immature. We don't say these words for something that may be able to be done, or something with a slight chance of being measured, or someone that is 10% polite. But you are saying it for more-likelies or so-so's now?
A better word would be quasi-immune if what you say is what it is supposed to convey.
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Incongruent conflation
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2641224]Well that is not what the dictionary seems to think.
So if I am immune from prosecution it means I can still be prosecuted but it will not be that bad?
See that prefix im- means not. Impossible, Immeasurable, Impolite, Immature. We don't say these words for something that may be able to be done, or something with a slight chance of being measured, or someone that is 10% polite. But you are saying it for more-likelies or so-so's now?
A better word would be quasi-immune if what you say is what it is supposed to convey.[/QUOTE]You are conflating two distinctly different concepts, which happen to share a word:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_[/URL](medical).
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_immunity[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflation[/URL]
But since you posted it in a Stupid Shit thread you are right on point!
SL.
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The real question is what happens when Omicron hits Thailand?
If Omicron is mild, best they ignore it, like they do the flu. And vaccinate everyone.
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Immune to Stupid Shit
Good point but not a bullseye. The clot shot falls way short, not a little short and folk wonder if the supposed pay off is worth the risk of a clot.
Asymptotic is a word many Covidiots do not understand but most mongers who got one or more clap doses would for the simple reason women tend to be asymptotic clap carriers.
I have got hepatitis and other shots but I ain't taking no clot shot. I have hardened my heart and stocked up my larder and (European) wine cellar. If I have to go, I am taking a lot of good French and Spanish wines with me. I'll write (via a medium).
Here is a link to the audio version of RFK's book on Dr Fauci. RFK will probably continue toe family tradition of getting capped. [URL]https://e1.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZnmpFZqfY8MNOKk7BLkl9UWvF5bjlSEFpX[/URL]#returl=https%3 A // e1. Pcloud. Link / publink / show%3 Fcode%3 DkZnmpFZqfY8 MNOKk7 BLkl9 UWvF5 bjlSEFpX&page=login.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2641332]You are conflating two distinctly different concepts, which happen to share a word:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_[/URL](medical).
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_immunity[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflation[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2641338]The real question is what happens when Omicron hits Thailand?[/QUOTE]Omicron cases double every 2 or 3 days. Thailand is only a week or more behind USA and Europe in reporting the first Omicron cases so one would expect 1000's of cases per day within another week or two. Whether that is what will be reported by Thailand is another question altogether.
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Hey Pedro,
I have watched RFK Jr. 's 30 minute interview with Tucker Carlson and I think RFK Jr. Has a lot of interesting things to say about vaccines and the history of vaccines. His main concern with the mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines like Moderna + Phizer is that they were rushed into production (to stop a pandemic) without complete and thorough testing of the potential side effects, so nobody really knows what the long term effects of the vaccine might be on, say, children. It should be noted that complete and thorough testing takes 5 years minimum.
So ok, I understand his concerns and he is probably right that healthy children should not be vaccinated. Furthermore, nobody should be forced to take the vax because we supposedly live in free countries like the USA, Australia, UK, Canada, ect. 555, or at least we thought we did before Covid came around.
Yet, despite RFK Jr's warnings which I think are serious, I have chosen to take the Moderna vax 3 times so far and I will probably get another Moderna shot 8 to 10 months from now if one is recommended and made available. Why, because I am over 55 and have weighed the pros and cons and I have decided in favor taking the vax in order to travel and shag pretty young girls by the bus load without worrying whether I will wind up in a hospital ward in some 3rd world foreign country.
The alternative is no vax which means no travel and no pretty young girls by the bus load. But I am aware that I am taking a small risk so if 10 or 20 years or another 500 to 1000 girls, it turns out that I develop some health issues related to the vax, then so be it. That's life. There is inherit risk in everything we do. But I would rather take the relatively small unknown risk of the vax in order to fuck as many girls as I want now and for the next 10 years than to play it safe and abstain for 5 years or longer until the clinical studies RFK Jr. Talks about reach their final scientific conclusions.
But that is just me. I totally respect your decision not to vax. "Whatever gets you through the night," as John Lennon famously coined.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641408]Yet, despite RFK Jr's warnings which I think are serious, I have chosen to take the Moderna vax 3 times so far and I will probably get another Moderna shot 8 to 10 months from now if one is recommended and made available. Why, because I am over 55 and have weighed the pros and cons and I have decided in favor taking the vax in order to travel and shag pretty young girls by the bus load without worrying whether I will wind up in a hospital ward in some 3rd world foreign country.
The alternative is no vax which means no travel and no pretty young girls by the bus load. But I am aware that I am taking a small risk so if 10 or 20 years or another 500 to 1000 girls, it turns out that I develop some health issues related to the vax, then so be it. That's life. There is inherit risk in everything we do. But I would rather take the relatively small unknown risk of the vax in order to fuck as many girls as I want now and for the next 10 years than to play it safe and abstain for 5 years or longer until the clinical studies RFK Jr. Talks about reach their final scientific conclusions.[/QUOTE]I've heard that many times already, but what makes you think that you'll really be able to fuck these 1000's pretty young girls even if you get 10 shots of your mode-rna gene therapy solution. They are treating people like shit before allowing them in their country (at least for Thailand).
I know plenty of people that rushed to get their vaccines a few month ago to be able to get back quickly to the "normal life."
What do they got so far? 3 shots in only 6 months, and they can only go to restaurants or get a membership in their sport clubs. What a big deal. None of them could go on vacation "like before" because the conditions are shitty.
People that are ready to accept whatever they impose on us for so little are real low lives, no matter their social positions or amount of money they have on their bank account.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2641184]Are you sure about an individual getting reinfected with the identical virus? With other viruses, once you beat it you have immunity from that virus. Depending on the exact virus, that immunity may last a few months but it may last a lifetime.
What's different about omicron so that the same individual can get it again and again?[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
Think of this way. SARS-COV-2 is vagina. We can call it yoni, pussy, or panocha, but it is still vagina. Now with vagina, it can be brown, black, white, yellow, hairy, bald, prickly, or trimmed. But is still just vagina though there are so many variations aka variants. Counter the vagina with penis. Once again, many variations, but still just a penis. This is where the vaccine for SARS-COV-2 comes in. Many brands, many names, but still just a vaccine for COVID. If you go back and look at past 2 years. Same vaccines, once, twice, thrice, and probably more form here on out to do what? Still fighting that SARS-COV-2. They have told people repeatedly. There is no such thing as 100% immunity with anything. It's only "varying degree of immunity." And everybody response is different. So this means vaccines to lessen the severity, not 100% immunity. So with almost 30 different types of variants is just all semantics to leading back to two things, SARS-COV-2 and vaccines. The mutations will never stop, just like the same as the cold virus, which you can catch over and over again. To the point that they don't even name all the cold virus variants because it's not that severe and too many, naming is pointless. SARS-COV-2 hasn't gotten there just yet.
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Heads I win
Like many others, you are taking the clot shot for freedom, freedom to fuck, to visit ski slopes, beaches etc. Just as you aree swayed by your dick's needs, so I am by my refusal to lie down to tyranny. Non Serviam.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641408]Hey Pedro,
I have watched RFK Jr. 's 30 minute interview with Tucker Carlson and I think RFK Jr. Has a lot of interesting things to say about vaccines and the history of vaccines. His main concern with the mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines like Moderna + Phizer is that they were rushed into production (to stop a pandemic) without complete and thorough testing of the potential side effects, so nobody really knows what the long term effects of the vaccine might be on, say, children. It should be noted that complete and thorough testing takes 5 years minimum.
So ok, I understand his concerns and he is probably right that healthy children should not be vaccinated. Furthermore, nobody should be forced to take the vax because we supposedly live in free countries like the USA, Australia, UK, Canada, ect. 555, or at least we thought we did before Covid came around.
Yet, despite RFK Jr's warnings which I think are serious, I have chosen to take the Moderna vax 3 times so far and I will probably get another Moderna shot 8 to 10 months from now if one is recommended and made available. Why, because I am over 55 and have weighed the pros and cons and I have decided in favor taking the vax in order to travel and shag pretty young girls by the bus load without worrying whether I will wind up in a hospital ward in some 3rd world foreign country..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641408]so nobody really knows what the long term effects of the vaccine might be on, say, children. It should be noted that complete and thorough testing takes 5 years minimum.
But I am aware that I am taking a small risk so if 10 or 20 years or another 500 to 1000 girls, it turns out that I develop some health issues related to the vax, then so be it. That's life. There is inherit risk in everything we do. But I would rather take the relatively small unknown risk of the vax in order to fuck as many girls as I want now and for the next 10 years than to play it safe and abstain for 5 years or longer until the clinical studies RFK Jr. Talks about reach their final scientific conclusions.
[/QUOTE]Finally somebody honest about the shit. We do not know. You are willing to take the risk by getting it and others are willing to take the risk by not getting it. It seems most people don't have a choice in which risk to take. It is either dictated to them which risk to take or they are scared into believing one risk is better than the other.
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Israeli man tests positive for COVID on Dec. 17 and leaves his hotel on Sukhumvit in Bangkok. Heads down to Pattaya. Then heads up to Koh Samui. Spreading his love in a different way.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2641579]Finally somebody honest about the shit. We do not know. You are willing to take the risk by getting it and others are willing to take the risk by not getting it. It seems most people don't have a choice in which risk to take. It is either dictated to them which risk to take or they are scared into believing one risk is better than the other.[/QUOTE]You guys need to get real. Were you ever vacccinated for measles, mumps, tuberculocis etc? What's so different about this vaccine that will start the zombie apocalypse?
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Can You Read?
[QUOTE=Downandup;2641801]You guys need to get real. Were you ever vacccinated for measles, mumps, tuberculocis etc? What's so different about this vaccine that will start the zombie apocalypse?[/QUOTE][URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/israeli-who-escaped-with-covid-19-now-in-custody-in-koh-samu[/URL]
The above is the link of the Israeli super spreader in Thailand. A citizen of Israel where they are vaccinated like a voodoo doll. It is the clot shot fanatics who believe the Apocalypse at hand. Your key contribution is to show you have done zero research, none, nada. Then you have the arrogance to ask what the big deal is. Are you a cop? Australian? Austrian? German? Dutch.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2641801]You guys need to get real. Were you ever vacccinated for measles, mumps, tuberculocis etc? What's so different about this vaccine that will start the zombie apocalypse?[/QUOTE]Downandup, I am no anti vax'er. As I clearly stated in my last post I have taken the Moderna jab 3 x with no regrets. I have also taken other vaccines including annual influenza, shingles, tetanus, and yellow fever (many years ago). That said, you should take a look at the RFK Jr. Interview and judge for yourself. It is very interesting if nothing else.
[URL]https://vimeo.com/649132950?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=4140352[/URL]
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641982]Downandup, I am no anti vax'er. As I clearly stated in my last post I have taken the Moderna jab 3 x with no regrets. I have also taken other vaccines including annual influenza, shingles, tetanus, and yellow fever (many years ago). That said, you should take a look at the RFK Jr. Interview and judge for yourself. It is very interesting if nothing else.
[URL]https://vimeo.com/649132950?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=4140352[/URL][/QUOTE]RFK, Jr is a clown that has repeatedly been debunked. Here's a sample.
[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/10/robert-f-kennedy-jr/no-covid-19-vaccine-not-deadliest-vaccine-ever-mad/[/URL]
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Rofl
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2641982]Downandup, I am no anti vax'er. As I clearly stated in my last post I have taken the Moderna jab 3 x with no regrets. I have also taken other vaccines including annual influenza, shingles, tetanus, and yellow fever (many years ago). That said, you should take a look at the RFK Jr. Interview and judge for yourself. It is very interesting if nothing else.
[URL]https://vimeo.com/649132950?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=4140352[/URL][/QUOTE]RFK Jr is a clown that has been repeatedly debunked. Here's a sample.
[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/10/robert-f-kennedy-jr/no-covid-19-vaccine-not-deadliest-vaccine-ever-mad/[/URL]
And Tucker Carlson? Johnny Mac said it best. Wink.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0hK1wyrrAU[/URL]
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Thai Regulatory Purgatory
So am I now stuck in a sick Thai purgatory of vague regulations and ever changing policies.
So the other morning (NYC Time) I wake up to news that Thai Pass is hitting down at noon. I quickly buy an insurance policy and get my other docs in order and submit my application for Jan 21st arrival under Test and Go at 7:15 am. At 9:15 am, much to my surprise, I receive approval with the QR code. I was amazed it got done without any problems so close to the deadline.
Now I read the official policy and it says that they are only letting approved people in until January 10th under Test and Go. Huh? WTF? Why did you just approve my Jan 21 arrival? My first reaction is to freak out but after a deep breath, I am just going to wait and see what happens. Things could always change tomorrow and usually do. I have a few weeks to cancel what I've booked so I have some time. Just shows how hard it is to actually book a trip to Thailand right now.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2641777]Israeli man tests positive for COVID on Dec. 17 and leaves his hotel on Sukhumvit in Bangkok. Heads down to Pattaya. Then heads up to Koh Samui. Spreading his love in a different way.[/QUOTE]He is in the hospital now, and soon will be in the monkey house.
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Not sure you got the right details
[QUOTE=Nyc6969;2642096]So am I now stuck in a sick Thai purgatory of vague regulations and ever changing policies.
So the other morning (NYC Time) I wake up to news that Thai Pass is hitting down at noon. I quickly buy an insurance policy and get my other docs in order and submit my application for Jan 21st arrival under Test and Go at 7:15 am. At 9:15 am, much to my surprise, I receive approval with the QR code. I was amazed it got done without any problems so close to the deadline.
Now I read the official policy and it says that they are only letting approved people in until January 10th under Test and Go. Huh? WTF? Why did you just approve my Jan 21 arrival? My first reaction is to freak out but after a deep breath, I am just going to wait and see what happens. Things could always change tomorrow and usually do. I have a few weeks to cancel what I've booked so I have some time. Just shows how hard it is to actually book a trip to Thailand right now.[/QUOTE]Not sure you got the right details. Check the newsletter from Richard Barrow and see if it details your case.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2642106]He is in the hospital now, and soon will be in the monkey house.[/QUOTE]No he is not in the hospital but he is in custody. He has tested negative 3 times in a row so the original test was a false positive. He is being charged with failing to abide by disease-control measures in violation of the emergency decree. The offence carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison and / or fine of 40,000 baht. I hope he receives the maximum penalty, he will probably be fined 40,000 baht and be deported.
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I don't understand why he bolted before even knowing the test results. Did he not know he had to stay? The hotel Association is eluding there was a breakdown in communication.
Thai news is questioning how odd it is he tested positive at the hotel but since it is now in the news he amazingly tested negative 3 times.
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My Two cents
As a goodwill gesture in this time of festive cheer may I offer my sincere sympathy to the antivaxers among us as their dear beloved leader has just these poor souls adrift and rudderless in a sea of confusion.
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Where to find cheap PCR-test in Bangkok?
Anybody knows where to find a good place to do PCR-test in Bangkok? I need to do it 48 hours before I fly back to my country.
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[QUOTE=Leoaff12;2642582]Anybody knows where to find a good place to do PCR-test in Bangkok? I need to do it 48 hours before I fly back to my country.[/QUOTE]That's been answered here. You can read it in the appropriate thread.
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First steps to realizing we may just have to live with it forever. Anyone think Thailand will follow suit?
"News Alert: CDC shortens recommended Covid-19 isolation and quarantine time.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday shortened the recommended times that people should isolate when they've tested positive for Covid-19 from 10 days to five days if they don't have symptoms -- and if they wear a mask around others for at least five more days. ".
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2643578]First steps to realizing we may just have to live with it forever. Anyone think Thailand will follow suit?
"News Alert: CDC shortens recommended Covid-19 isolation and quarantine time.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday shortened the recommended times that people should isolate when they've tested positive for Covid-19 from 10 days to five days if they don't have symptoms -- and if they wear a mask around others for at least five more days. ".[/QUOTE]No, they are going to save face at any cost. Skip a test there now and face up to two years and up to 45 K baht fine. Making changes to the best or making changes at customer request is the hardest thing to do. Thailand will be the last country to return on my list while this shit show malady lasts with the governments.
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A 'what if' question
[QUOTE=Questner;2643620]No, they are going to save face at any cost. Skip a test there now and face up to two years and up to 45 K baht fine. Making changes to the best or making changes at customer request is the hardest thing to do. Thailand will be the last country to return on my list while this shit show malady lasts with the governments.[/QUOTE]So we've all read here about the horror stories of being sent to a Thai hospital after testing positive for covid, having no symptoms and getting stuck with the hospital bill. And it seems like the Thai people pretty much 'fall in line' with the rule of getting tested and off to hospital seeing that they don't get a bill. But what do you do if your staying with a Thai who says you should go get tested because they think they have covid? What do you do if you have light symptoms but your basically staying solo? If your planning a trip to Thailand (or any country) this is something you should think about.
My first thought would be to self quarantine and avoid any hospital stays unless the symptoms are severe. I would do the same at home, self quarantine and wait for it to pass. But in a foreign country is this an option for a foreigner? Would telling the girl that you were with that you tested negative be acceptable even if you didn't take a test? If you want to avoid a costly hospital stay along these lines in my mind the solution is simple. Don't keep a single girl as a permanent GF. Break the link to the girl who said to you that you should take a covid test. Telling her you have another girl your seeing is much easier than going down the path of lying about getting tested.
The old days of finding a few steady girls might be gone if you want to avoid a trip to the hospital and a financial hit.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2643726]So we've all read here about the horror stories of being sent to a Thai hospital after testing positive for covid, having no symptoms and getting stuck with the hospital bill. And it seems like the Thai people pretty much 'fall in line' with the rule of getting tested and off to hospital seeing that they don't get a bill. But what do you do if your staying with a Thai who says you should go get tested because they think they have covid? What do you do if you have light symptoms but your basically staying solo? If your planning a trip to Thailand (or any country) this is something you should think about.
My first thought would be to self quarantine and avoid any hospital stays unless the symptoms are severe. I would do the same at home, self quarantine and wait for it to pass. But in a foreign country is this an option for a foreigner? Would telling the girl that you were with that you tested negative be acceptable even if you didn't take a test? If you want to avoid a costly hospital stay along these lines in my mind the solution is simple. Don't keep a single girl as a permanent GF. Break the link to the girl who said to you that you should take a covid test. Telling her you have another girl your seeing is much easier than going down the path of lying about getting tested.
The old days of finding a few steady girls might be gone if you want to avoid a trip to the hospital and a financial hit.[/QUOTE]I don't know about all of your scenarios, but as an expat living here I was allowed to self quarantine in my condo.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2643827]I don't know about all of your scenarios, but as an expat living here I was allowed to self quarantine in my condo.[/QUOTE]Well a Thai girl I know had a positive test result without symptoms and was sent to a 'hospital' for a week. So not so sure the Thai gov't would allow a tourist to self quarantine. Roll of the dice maybe on who does which?
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Why Pedro Now Stays at Home
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10350201/Europe-Covid-British-tourists-refused-entry-Austrian-airport.html[/URL]
So, 110 Britishers landed in Österreich and were told to FKK off, that the rules had changed and tough shtt the site had not been updated to inform them of this. Note they had been allowed fly. Pedro does not need any more of this nonsense. That is Österreich, one of Europe's richest regions. If they are such clowns, what hope is there in the Land of Smiles?
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2643726]My first thought would be to self quarantine and avoid any hospital stays unless the symptoms are severe. I would do the same at home, self quarantine and wait for it to pass. But in a foreign country is this an option for a foreigner? Would telling the girl that you were with that you tested negative be acceptable even if you didn't take a test? If you want to avoid a costly hospital stay along these lines in my mind the solution is simple. Don't keep a single girl as a permanent GF. Break the link to the girl who said to you that you should take a covid test. Telling her you have another girl your seeing is much easier than going down the path of lying about getting tested.
The old days of finding a few steady girls might be gone if you want to avoid a trip to the hospital and a financial hit.[/QUOTE]What is the difference in practice if you fuck same one girl for 7 days or you fuck 7 days different girl each day and catch Covid-19? Is there some way the local authorities will find out that you have been in contact with a person who has Covid? Can the infected girl that you fucked turn you in and force to be tested? Of course if anyone of us has moderate or severe Covid symptoms these days a test is wise to do and proper, symptom based health care accordingly. That is why we have insurances to enter Thailand in case shit happens during the trip and hospital calls.
For me the risk catching Covid seems to be the same in both fuck variations above. But is there a difference in the aftermath of your infection depending how long time you have spent time with a single girl? If not I would not skip a longer term girl if I would find a good one. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Just wait until your girl tests positive and then charges you for all the days of her quarantine per hour.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2643726]But what do you do if your staying with a Thai who says you should go get tested because they think they have covid? [/QUOTE]"No" is a complete sentence. Don't care what she says, the potential downside of testing positive is too high.
I'd do a responsible thing and self-isolate in my room if I were in contact with a suspected case. However, I would only get tested in Thailand if I needed medical treatment or was forced (on entry).
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2644099]I'd do a responsible thing and self-isolate in my room if I were in contact with a suspected case.[/QUOTE]I would too but imo I think the majority of guys would continue going out nightly if they were in close contact with someone who had COVID. This would be especially true if a guy were on a 2-4 week Thailand sex vacation. Doubtful they'd voluntarily self quarantine for 7 or 10 days?
Do they sell self testing ATK or PCR tests in Thailand?
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2644099]"No" is a complete sentence. Don't care what she says, the potential downside of testing positive is too high.
I'd do a responsible thing and self-isolate in my room if I were in contact with a suspected case. However, I would only get tested in Thailand if I needed medical treatment or was forced (on entry).[/QUOTE]This answers some of the questions in my previous post. Thanks!
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Was walking along 2nd road
And overheard a guy on his phone telling his buddy that he had to take an antigen test. From the sounds of it he was standing somewhere in an open area without eating or drinking and not wearing a mask and the police informed him he would have to take (and I am assuming pay for) an antigen test. He sounded pretty well pissed off about the situation.
Now what I find amazing is all of these women wearing masks here, long black hair and striking eyes and I can't help but think they will all look as hot without the mask on. But I know that isn't true.
Wingman just landed a day ago in Bangkok. He arrived around 11 pm, taken to his hotel and given his PCR test. He woke up at 8 am to a phone call saying his test was negative. He then checked in early to his next hotel and managed to pick up 4 different women. And he did them all while wearing his mask. He doesn't want to catch covid before his day 5 PCR test. Correct me if I am wrong but if the girl has covid it will get on his bed sheets, towel etc and infect him when he takes off his mask.
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From CDC, based on scientific studies "CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after. ". Because of this quarantine is only needed for 5 days if no symptoms or after fever subsides.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1227-isolation-quarantine-guidance.html
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[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2644043]What is the difference in practice if you fuck same one girl for 7 days or you fuck 7 days different girl each day and catch Covid-19? Is there some way the local authorities will find out that you have been in contact with a person who has Covid?.[/QUOTE]Well my thoughts are that if you don't repeat with a girl then its less likely she'll think of contacting you if she does come up positive. If she does contact you it would be remotely and you could say 'yes I got tested and it came back negative'. And she wouldn't know your real name, possibly forget exactly where you are staying. Easier to deny is what I am going with here. Now if you have a girl staying with you for 7 days who turns out positive then my guess is the first thing she would say when getting said result was 'I'm staying with a foreigner. ". Now its unlikely the girl will know exactly 'when' she caught covid. And will accept your answer that your negative and feeling fine if its over LINE chat.
[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2644043]Can the infected girl that you fucked turn you in and force to be tested? .[/QUOTE]Sure she can. It might even be possible for a girl to do that just to spite you, revenge. I would imagine the Thai medical authority would take her word over any farang every time.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2644873]Sure she can. It might even be possible for a girl to do that just to spite you, revenge. I would imagine the Thai medical authority would take her word over any farang every time.[/QUOTE]In the middle of all the speculation going on at the moment regarding Covid on this forum this is for sure a fact. Farang loses always.
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There are now 1000 reported Omicron cases. 534 the other day so this number is consistent with Omicron cases doubling every 2-3 days.
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It is suspected that the cheap antigen tests can't detect Omicron. This may be a bug or a feature.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2645060]It is suspected that the cheap antigen tests can't detect Omicron. This may be a bug or a feature.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that the cheap antigen tests cannot differentiate between omicron and other variants, such as delta? Or are you saying that these tests will show negative even if the omicron variant is present? The former would not be a problem, the latter would be a total waste of a test.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2645060]It is suspected that the cheap antigen tests can't detect Omicron. This may be a bug or a feature.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2645142]Are you saying that the cheap antigen tests cannot differentiate between omicron and other variants, such as delta? Or are you saying that these tests will show negative even if the omicron variant is present? The former would not be a problem, the latter would be a total waste of a test.[/QUOTE]My understanding is: with the Omicron variant, the viral load is so small (by comparison) that the existing inexpensive antigen tests have a hard time detecting it.
SL.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2645060]It is suspected that the cheap antigen tests can't detect Omicron. This may be a bug or a feature.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2645142]Are you saying that the cheap antigen tests cannot differentiate between omicron and other variants, such as delta? Or are you saying that these tests will show negative even if the omicron variant is present? The former would not be a problem, the latter would be a total waste of a test.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2645169]My understanding is: with the Omicron variant, the viral load is so small (by comparison) that the existing inexpensive antigen tests have a hard time detecting it.
SL.[/QUOTE]None of this is true. Where are you guys getting your information? Even a little common sense would tell you this was impossible. The Omicron variant is much more transmissible, why? Because it has a much higher viral load than previous variants. It can be detected by all current testing methods as accurately (or inaccurately) as previous variants. In fact the ATK tests don't really even test for Covid-19 they test for (any) Corona virus it's just that besides the common cold Covid-19 is the only corona virus currently circulating around the globe.
The Omicron variant spreads much faster but also dissipates much faster so the viral load gets smaller twice as fast as with previous variants. This is why after several days of infection the ATK test can't detect the virus because of the small viral load, but at the same time you are no longer contagious and are not likely to be spreading the virus so who gives a shit.
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Conflation
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2645191]None of this is true. Where are you guys getting your information? Even a little common sense would tell you this was impossible. The Omicron variant is much more transmissible, why? Because it has a much higher viral load than previous variants. [/QUOTE]Contagion and viral load are distinctly different concepts: [URL]https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-viral-load[/URL]#1-3.
SL.
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85 dead from motor vehicle accidents in the first 2 days of the 7 days of death.
For first time visitors to Thailand who may not know, if you get caught by police riding on a motorbike without a helmet the maximum fine is 500 baht. If the police try to extort more than 500 baht tell them you will pay 500 baht or go down to the police station with them. Someone let us know if my info is dated.
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BB, I quoted your post from the Pattaya thread and responded here in the Rants and Stupid section because I think this new policy is more at home here.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2645709]Kiss Pattaya goodbye everyone. This is a big one!
[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is madness. Nobody is dying from Omicron. What is the latest count: 2? Therefore there is no need to close down entry into the country or impose mandates on the bars & restaurants, or to mandate anything for that matter. Covid is becoming endemic. It will never go away completely. Like the Flu! And currently there are 2 very decent vaccines available to Thais and better vaccines (more comprehensive and longer lasting) are being developed by Pfizer and Moderna among others.
I am sure the Thai Government will reverse these new decisions in a few weeks when the number of new cases peak, but the real problem is this heavy mindset in politicians and various governments around the world. Theses entities will continue to respond the same way with every new variant. So you can follow the bouncing ball: Thailand kind of opened (covid test before & after arrival + proof of vaccination + up to a 24 hour quarantine) in November and most of December although there were strict regulations on the bars, then Thailand closes again now due to a non lethal variant, but will reopen again in February (probably), and later in 2022 they will most likely shut down again in April or May when a new variant arrives in time for the rainy season. 555. What a callosal load of bull! I feel sorry for the Thai people that have had to endure this madness as well as those ISG'ers with real Thai GF's who they have not seen for a long, long time.
Anyway, I have better things to do than play along with this dumb ass open / close / close / open game the government likes to play and fortunately I have better places to go too. Bye Bye Thailand. I had a lot of fun here while it lasted (1989 to 2019).
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Seems like everyone I talk to in Pattaya both guys and girls, even non P4 P girls knows a ton of people with COVID now. Unless everyone knows one another which is possible in a small town like Pattaya but all 3,000 cases of COVID reported in Thailand yesterday all live in Pattaya!. Something just isn't adding up to me.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2645947]Seems like everyone I talk to in Pattaya both guys and girls, even non P4 P girls knows a ton of people with COVID now. Unless everyone knows one another which is possible in a small town like Pattaya but all 3,000 cases of COVID reported in Thailand yesterday all live in Pattaya!. Something just isn't adding up to me.[/QUOTE]I can say the same thing about Phuket. Published new cases in Phuket have been running at about 80 per day. I don't believe it is that low.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2645972]I can say the same thing about Phuket. Published new cases in Phuket have been running at about 80 per day. I don't believe it is that low.[/QUOTE]I follow about 50 Thai Instagram girls that are known to work in the business. There are currently 8 that have come down with covid in this past week. 4 are in Phuket, 4 In Pattaya.
The official Thai numbers have under counted the cases all the way through the pandemic by a large multiple.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2646037]I follow about 50 Thai Instagram girls that are known to work in the business. There are currently 8 that have come down with covid in this past week. 4 are in Phuket, 4 In Pattaya.
The official Thai numbers have under counted the cases all the way through the pandemic by a large multiple.[/QUOTE]Yes, in Phuket I am hearing of multiple working girls now with covid.
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Just to put this to bed a bit, many major cities across the world, be it in Asia, Europe or North America, are experiencing rises in cases right now, ones that test more, and have tests readily available, like New York City, are also detecting more (duh!) In the US there seems to be at least some indication (which may or may not bear out to be true at the end of the day) that the at home rapid tests have a higher false negative rate with omicron, that means they are less sensitive to omicron, this is direct from the US government but they caution that these are early results and it may change. There also seems to be indication that the 10 day (or 14 day) quarantine was a good baseline, but for vaccinated people it is likely over cautious, and you are likely fine after 5 days if asymptomatic. Omicron cases appear to be mild to no symptoms in vaccinated people. Unvaxxed people are same as always.
We'll get a rise this month, shit will get weird in lots of cities in Jan, than calm down again. I just hope they don't go crazy with travel restrictions cause those can take a long time to sort out. Its already everywhere, no need to do anything other than test, and if you're vaxxed, you're fine anyways.
When/if Thailand changes or adopts new rules, who the fuck knows, the only constant is that things seems to change every couple of weeks, so planning right now is somewhat useless
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Jan 04 Announcement coming
The Thai Government is making an announcement today in regards to "Test & Go", "Sandbox" and other ways to enter Thailand.
It is anticipated that the current suspension of "Test & Go" and the "Sandbox" schemes except Phuket, will continue.
Currently the only way to enter Thailand is through hard qurantine 7,10,14 days depending on country and vaccination status. Or through the 7 day Phuket sandbox scheme, where you are free to leave hotel during the day and have to get PCR tested twice at your expense.
People that lodged their Thai Pass before December 22 and have been approved can still enter under the suspended "Test & Go" or other "Sandbox" schemes, however it is expected that then Thai government will announce you must enter before January 10 or it will expire.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2646422]The Thai Government is making an announcement today in regards to "Test & Go", "Sandbox" and other ways to enter Thailand.[/QUOTE]Seems you missed the announcement that was already made that said they would wait until January 31 to make an announcement.
"Anutin Charnvirakul, Minister of Public Health and Deputy Prime Minister, confirmed this morning to the Thai press, January 3rd, 2022, that he has proposed on behalf of the Ministry of Public Health (MOPH) to delay any resumption of the “Test and Go” program until at least the end of January, scheduled for a review by the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration, or CCSA, tomorrow, January 4th."
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For those who have approved QR codes for Thailand Pass and think you have an indefinite time to use them Thailand is now considering putting a time limit on when they can be used. They will make the announcement on January 10 and your approved Thailand Pass could be invalid as early as January 10.
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The semi-official announcement is that bars will not open on 16 January.
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This TikTok girl is documenting her Thailand quarantine on TikTok. This could be you.
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/search?q=Megan%20Meeke%20&t=1641268634023[/URL]
She wanted water. Hotel says she has to pay cash. She has no cash. Who enters a foreign country with zero cash in that currency? Not smart. Guess she's drinking from the tap.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2646525]This TikTok girl is documenting her Thailand quarantine on TikTok. This could be you.
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/search?q=Megan%20Meeke%20&t=1641268634023[/URL]
She wanted water. Hotel says she has to pay cash. She has no cash. Who enters a foreign country with zero cash in that currency? Not smart. Guess she's drinking from the tap.[/QUOTE]I exchange all my baht at the Thailand airport in favor of USA dollars, better baht to dollars exchange rate there. I have zero baht at home so upon return to Thailand I normally hit the Thailand airport ATM immediately after gathering my luggage and before going to transportation.
Is that concept still possible in the age of Test and Go and Sandbox?
I'm also wondering if it will be possible to buy a Thai SIM card before going to my Phuket Sandbox hotel.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2646449]Seems you missed the announcement that was already made that said they would wait until January 31 to make an announcement.
"Anutin Charnvirakul, Minister of Public Health and Deputy Prime Minister, confirmed this morning to the Thai press, January 3rd, 2022, that he has proposed on behalf of the Ministry of Public Health (MOPH) to delay any resumption of the Test and Go program until at least the end of January, scheduled for a review by the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration, or CCSA, tomorrow, January 4th."[/QUOTE]This is not the official announcement. It is a 3 step process.
Step 1: All ministers put forward their recommendations to the CCSA. The Health minister has the loudest voice as it pertains to public health but not all of his recommendations are followed verbatim. Probably between 60 to 80 % of his proposals have been followed during the current Pandemic.
Step 2: The CCSA meets, which is the meeting today to which I was referring to.
Step 3: It becomes official law when it published in the Royal Thai Government Gazette, usually a few days later.
Along each step of the way things do get dropped and added. For example, on December 22 the CCSA stated that current Thai Pass's would be valid until Jan 10 only. However this was never stated in the Royal Gazette, hence there was no official cut off date. However, this may be corrected today.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2646519]The semi-official announcement is that bars will not open on 16 January.[/QUOTE]There was never a statement that said anyone but Sex Started Mongers were target ing Jan 16.
Govt said will assess situation.
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Omicron just extended the possible visa extensions
Staying at an airbnb for the first time ever in Thailand and the owner upon me checking in informed me that I had to file paperwork with immigration with my passport showing my current residency. But I recalled reading in the Cambodia forum that travel agents would for a fee go to immigration on your behalf for a fee. So I stopped by a local visa agent and for 500 baht they went and filed the paperwork with my passport, just had to pick it up the next day. Anyway got their LINE ID and said I would be stopping by to do the 30 day extension and was informed I could now increase that to 60 days for an extra 2000 baht. Have plans to go to Cambodia but for 2000 baht this gives me some extra insurance if I am delayed, flight cancelations etc.
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Don't assume just because you have medical insurance your hospital bills will be paid. Don't leave your hotel if you are told to.
"Hotels want them off the premises and sent to hospitals but the insurance companies are refusing to honor policies saying they have to pay for hospitals. The foreigners are pointing out that they are insured and won't pay for hospitalization. This, said the source, meant that a large number of foreign tourists are refusing to budge at hotels."
[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1245465-phuket-hotels-desperate-as-insured-foreign-tourists-with-covid-denied-coverage-refuse-to-go-to-hospital-hospitel-shortage-admitted/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2646672]Staying at an airbnb for the first time ever in Thailand and the owner upon me checking in informed me that I had to file paperwork with immigration with my passport showing my current residency. But I recalled reading in the Cambodia forum that travel agents would for a fee go to immigration on your behalf for a fee. So I stopped by a local visa agent and for 500 baht they went and filed the paperwork with my passport, just had to pick it up the next day. Anyway got their LINE ID and said I would be stopping by to do the 30 day extension and was informed I could now increase that to 60 days for an extra 2000 baht. Have plans to go to Cambodia but for 2000 baht this gives me some extra insurance if I am delayed, flight cancelations etc.[/QUOTE]I'm no visa agent, so take this with a grain of salt: Whatever residency paperwork you needed for your initial visa should already have been done as part of sandbox / COE / ASQ / T&G, however you made entry (really, just put the name of the hotel in the blank and get your stamp.) Visa *extensions* require a residency doc of some sort. Condos, hotels, and I guess AirBnBs (never personally done one) are happy to make you up a doc. The fee at the Immigration office is 1900 baht, no matter what the visa is. 30 day, 60 day, 1 year, all 1900 baht. The last 2 times I went for the extension there was an officer standing in the doorway to the 30 day office waving everyone upstairs to the 60 day office. They can't be bothered with the 30 day extensions, and they're passing the 60 day ones out like jelly beans here in Phuket. In any case, there's no way you were ever going to get an extension, any extension, for 500 baht. The 1900 baht fee is impossible to avoid.
I think maybe you've misunderstood your agent. They want 500 baht do do the running around and paperwork for you, plus another 1900--rounded up to 2000 and clipping you for another 100 baht--for the fee they'll have to pay at the office. It's a bargain. Take it.
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[QUOTE=Chop;2646760]I'm no visa agent, so take this with a grain of salt: Whatever residency paperwork you needed for your initial visa should already have been done as part of sandbox / COE / ASQ / T&G, however you made entry (really, just put the name of the hotel in the blank and get your stamp.) Visa *extensions* require a residency doc of some sort. Condos, hotels, and I guess AirBnBs (never personally done one) are happy to make you up a doc. The fee at the Immigration office is 1900 baht, no matter what the visa is. 30 day, 60 day, 1 year, all 1900 baht. The last 2 times I went for the extension there was an officer standing in the doorway to the 30 day office waving everyone upstairs to the 60 day office. They can't be bothered with the 30 day extensions, and they're passing the 60 day ones out like jelly beans here in Phuket. In any case, there's no way you were ever going to get an extension, any extension, for 500 baht. The 1900 baht fee is impossible to avoid.
I think maybe you've misunderstood your agent. They want 500 baht do do the running around and paperwork for you, plus another 1900--rounded up to 2000 and clipping you for another 100 baht--for the fee they'll have to pay at the office. It's a bargain. Take it.[/QUOTE]Ignore what I said about the airbnb, residency etc. That was just to show how I got their LINE ID. I am on a 60 day tourist visa and this visa agent knows that. So on the LINE chat I said I'll be coming by to do my 30 day visa extension. And they replied 'you can now extend 60 days due to covid'. I then made sure they understood I was already on a 60 day visa and they said 'yes, you can now extend another 60 days'. A 30 day extension using the visa agent services is 4000 baht, saves you from waiting in line. They take your passport and all the paperwork and get it stamped without you needing to be there. Now the 60 day extension will cost 6000 baht, my bet is the same 2100 fee plus two 1900 visa extension fee's at immigration. Or might the 60 day extension only cost 1900 baht and the visa agent is trying to collect 4100?
Now on a different subject, just love the photo in this article below. Nothing says social distancing like putting sick people into an open area with fans blowing all of the covid all over the place.
[URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/bangkok-prepares-field-hospitals-isolation-centres-for-anticipated-covid-19-uptick[/URL]
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Friday CCSA meeting
There is still no official announcement in regards to the current suspension of "Test and Go" and "Sandbox schemes" etc.
Numerous sources have stated that the "test and go" suspension will continue, however the delay in the official announcement suggests there is still wrangling in the fine details.
There is a Friday CCSA meeting where the final details will probably be announced.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2647038]Ignore what I said about the airbnb, residency etc. That was just to show how I got their LINE ID. I am on a 60 day tourist visa and this visa agent knows that. So on the LINE chat I said I'll be coming by to do my 30 day visa extension. And they replied 'you can now extend 60 days due to covid'. I then made sure they understood I was already on a 60 day visa and they said 'yes, you can now extend another 60 days'. A 30 day extension using the visa agent services is 4000 baht, saves you from waiting in line. They take your passport and all the paperwork and get it stamped without you needing to be there. Now the 60 day extension will cost 6000 baht, my bet is the same 2100 fee plus two 1900 visa extension fee's at immigration. Or might the 60 day extension only cost 1900 baht and the visa agent is trying to collect 4100?
Now on a different subject, just love the photo in this article below. Nothing says social distancing like putting sick people into an open area with fans blowing all of the covid all over the place.
[URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/bangkok-prepares-field-hospitals-isolation-centres-for-anticipated-covid-19-uptick[/URL][/QUOTE]OK, I misread your original post as you'd get the 30 day extension for 500 baht. Impossible at that price. That's what I was trying to get at. My misread, my bad.
The 60 day extension is a special exception they made "temporarily" for Covid. Temporary is going on two years now. The fee at the Immigration office for it is 1900 baht, same as all the other extensions, including the regular 30 day that everyone used to do in the before times. So yeah, your agent is clipping you for double (ish) the price. 6000 baht for a 60 day extension is pretty steep, but not completely outrageous. To be fair, the 60 day-er requires two trips to the office (although still, you only pay the 1900 baht fee on the first trip I. E, once. LOL at Thai bureaucracy), and if that pic you linked makes you uncomfortable about covid protocols, or lack thereof, you'd absolutely shart yourself walking into the immigration office. Might be worth it for that alone. I'd still take the deal, especially if you're pressed for time.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2647316]There is still no official announcement in regards to the current suspension of "Test and Go" and "Sandbox schemes" etc.
Numerous sources have stated that the "test and go" suspension will continue, however the delay in the official announcement suggests there is still wrangling in the fine details.
There is a Friday CCSA meeting where the final details will probably be announced.[/QUOTE]Please name numerous sources.
Usually it's Noi from Buriam or Nip from Kalasin. Get my point.
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The number of ladies in Pattaya who have Covid is astounding. I can only think of a few ladies who don't have Covid-19. Slim pickings at the moment.
The official positivity rate is 25%, but that doesn't count unofficial tests, where, if positive, the test remains hidden.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2647316]There is still no official announcement in regards to the current suspension of "Test and Go" and "Sandbox schemes" etc.
Numerous sources have stated that the "test and go" suspension will continue, however the delay in the official announcement suggests there is still wrangling in the fine details.
There is a Friday CCSA meeting where the final details will probably be announced.[/QUOTE]It's a given that it will continue to be suspended till further notice. The situation here this week is much more worse than when it first got suspended. Daily infections have almost doubled within 2 days. 2 of my contacts here got covid in the past 1 week. I got infected myself too. Private hospitals are overwhelmed with patients queuing for admission, even testing alone has waiting time of 12 hours.
I waited my ambulance for 10 hours. That was 4 days ago. I was not the only patient in the ambulance. It has to be shared.
That's how bad it is here this week.
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700+ cases in Pattaya today.
The authorities are probably going to shut the bars today. I will let you guys debate whether a restaurant serving alcohol is a bar.
It's going to be a sad January, maybe Omicron will pass quickly. I am leaving town if I test negative for Covid19.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2647431]It's a given that it will continue to be suspended till further notice. The situation here this week is much more worse than when it first got suspended. Daily infections have almost doubled within 2 days. 2 of my contacts here got covid in the past 1 week. I got infected myself too. Private hospitals are overwhelmed with patients queuing for admission, even testing alone has waiting time of 12 hours.
I waited my ambulance for 10 hours. That was 4 days ago. I was not the only patient in the ambulance. It has to be shared.
That's how bad it is here this week.[/QUOTE]Yes it is much worse than the numbers suggest here in Thailand. They seem to go up by 50% per day over the last 3 days. I know of a bunch of girls in Pattaya and Phuket that have tested positive. Strangely I don't personally know of anyone in Bangkok yet.
Where were you located when you tested positive. ?
Hope you have no or little symptons and get out of Hospital soon.
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[QUOTE=ChimpoChinn;2647363]Please name numerous sources.
Usually it's Noi from Buriam or Nip from Kalasin. Get my point.[/QUOTE]The sources I were referring to were News Outlets. Bangkok Post, Thaiger, Pattay & Phuket local news. The "Test & Go" scheme as well as corona virus dominates expat news. Hence there are several articles per day relating to these topics on the news outlets who quote various Official Thai Government Ministers - to whom which the ulimate decision will come.
Feel free to read them to develope your own take / opinion on what is expected to happen.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2647754]Yes it is much worse than the numbers suggest here in Thailand. They seem to go up by 50% per day over the last 3 days. I know of a bunch of girls in Pattaya and Phuket that have tested positive. Strangely I don't personally know of anyone in Bangkok yet.
Where were you located when you tested positive. ?
Hope you have no or little symptons and get out of Hospital soon.[/QUOTE]I was in Bangkok for 3 weeks before getting infected. Mostly stayed in the Sukhumvit stretch.
I have recovered from symptoms now. But still not even half way through my 10 day mandatory quarantine period.
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Phuket getting worse.
The impact in Phuket of the new wave is just starting to become very visible now.
Everybody now knows multiple people that are sick, tho most are very mildly so, and as such are isolating at home.
And definitely not recorded in the official numbers.
Sadly, myself included most likely.
I had a positive ATK test at a clinic yesterday morning.
So I then took a PCR test in the afternoon that I'm now awaiting test results on.
Running a diving business here and having been on a registered tourist vessel (dive boat), there are "advice" protocols that the boat (and I) have to follow.
Hence the PCR confirm or clear Covid test.
And from there, if I am positive, I just hope to stay clear of the expensive "hospitel" protocols and isolate at home.
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Those cheap ATK kits are pretty useless for detecting Omicron. If you are symptomatic, try to get an RT-PCR test.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2647431]It's a given that it will continue to be suspended till further notice. The situation here this week is much more worse than when it first got suspended. Daily infections have almost doubled within 2 days. 2 of my contacts here got covid in the past 1 week. I got infected myself too. Private hospitals are overwhelmed with patients queuing for admission, even testing alone has waiting time of 12 hours.
I waited my ambulance for 10 hours. That was 4 days ago. I was not the only patient in the ambulance. It has to be shared.
That's how bad it is here this week.[/QUOTE]Yes. But infected with what? Is this regular COVID or Delta or the Omicron variant. I think everyone needs to calm down or we will never get back to normal. A neighbor she tested positive for Omicron, people are crazy here lining up for tests. She goes to hospital, nurse tells her you have no symptoms. I know but I tested positive OMG! I'm going to die. Lady calm down, if you get sick come back, but you're probably fine. Oh and she had both jabs. They need to take this crap off the news and these countries open and get back to normal. The general public is insane.
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Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) - Meeting today
Summary of todays CCSA meeting:
Test & Go suspened indefinitely.
All holders of Thai Passes (Test and Go + Sandboxes) that were lodged before December 22 cut off must enter before Jan 15.
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Phuket Sandbox to continue.
The following destinations are added to the sandbox scheme however the commencing date yet to be announced.
Koh Samui, Koh Tao and Koh Phangan.
Krabi and Phangnga.
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Alcohol to be suspended at restaurants in all provinces except the following tourist provinces.
These provinces can serve alcohol until 9 pm.
Bangkok.
Chon Buri.
Kanchanaburi.
Krabi.
Nonthaburi.
Pathum Thani.
Phangnga.
Phuket.
The above announcement need to be published in the Royal Gazette to become official. However any changes will most likely be very minor.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2645947]Seems like everyone I talk to in Pattaya both guys and girls, even non P4 P girls knows a ton of people with COVID now. Unless everyone knows one another which is possible in a small town like Pattaya but all 3,000 cases of COVID reported in Thailand yesterday all live in Pattaya!. Something just isn't adding up to me.[/QUOTE]It all adds up to me. Because of the culture in Pattaya, it is the epicenter of testing due to the bar and restaurant scene there. Thus everyone gets extra high loads of graphene oxides in them, which leads to the toxic effect which in combination with a cold or a flu is considered covid. In the rest of Thailand there is less need for testing and use of facial diapers. And maybe even lower levels of vaccination. Because the tests shwabs are dipped in the graphere producing hydrogel substance before inserted into your nose or throat. And the facial diapers who have passed approval are all coated with the same graphene materials.
This all adds up to why the hive of cases in Thailand are centered in Pattaya / Jomtien.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2647880]Summary of todays CCSA meeting:
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The above announcement need to be published in the Royal Gazette to become official. However any changes will most likely be very minor.[/QUOTE]Thanks MaxBKK. English summary video of today's CCSA meeting is on YouTube. Search "CCSA UPDATE Fabulous 103fm". Sorry, I cant get the direct link to work.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2647893]It all adds up to me. Because of the culture in Pattaya, it is the epicenter of testing due to the bar and restaurant scene there. Thus everyone gets extra high loads of graphene oxides in them, which leads to the toxic effect which in combination with a cold or a flu is considered covid. In the rest of Thailand there is less need for testing and use of facial diapers. And maybe even lower levels of vaccination. Because the tests shwabs are dipped in the graphere producing hydrogel substance before inserted into your nose or throat. And the facial diapers who have passed approval are all coated with the same graphene materials.
This all adds up to why the hive of cases in Thailand are centered in Pattaya / Jomtien.[/QUOTE]What you are saying is supporting what I said. What I was saying is there were likely 3000 Omicron cases per day in Pattaya alone. Thailand was reporting 3000 cases for all of Thailand the day I made my post and we know BKK and Phuket are also having outbreaks.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2648005]What you are saying is supporting what I said. What I was saying is there were likely 3000 Omicron cases per day in Pattaya alone. Thailand was reporting 3000 cases for all of Thailand the day I made my post and we know BKK and Phuket are also having outbreaks.[/QUOTE]Haha OK. They are just pulling numbers out of the hat then. Makes sense too.
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Govt is smart. Limit alcohol sales lowers drunk driving deaths.
If just one crazy person life is saved it will be worth it.
We all in this together.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2647893]It all adds up to me. Because of the culture in Pattaya, it is the epicenter of testing due to the bar and restaurant scene there. Thus everyone gets extra high loads of graphene oxides in them, which leads to the toxic effect which in combination with a cold or a flu is considered covid. In the rest of Thailand there is less need for testing and use of facial diapers. And maybe even lower levels of vaccination. Because the tests shwabs are dipped in the graphere producing hydrogel substance before inserted into your nose or throat. And the facial diapers who have passed approval are all coated with the same graphene materials.
This all adds up to why the hive of cases in Thailand are centered in Pattaya / Jomtien.[/QUOTE]RT-PCR tests are showing a massive increase in Covid in Chonburi.
If your theory that graphene oxides were causing positive ATK tests were true, then ATK tests would constantly be positive in high numbers, but the number of positives Is increasing.
Hospitals will soon be filling up, so Covid is really here.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2648126]RT-PCR tests are showing a massive increase in Covid in Chonburi.
If your theory that graphene oxides were causing positive ATK tests were true, then ATK tests would constantly be positive in high numbers, but the number of positives Is increasing.
Hospitals will soon be filling up, so Covid is really here.[/QUOTE]You need a certain level of graphene oxide in combination with flu or cold virus.
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Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) - Update
Apparently they are looking at scrapping the cut off date for current Thai Pass holders that lodged before Dec 22. They initially said cut off would be Jan 15, updates are suggesting no cut off.
Nothing is certain until changes get published in the Royal Gazette. So little changes (or big changes can still occur).
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2648569]You need a certain level of graphene oxide in combination with flu or cold virus.[/QUOTE]I think you are confused.
Neither ATK tests nor RT-PCR confuse Covid with the common cold or flu.
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Pfizer Introduces Vacci Suit That Pumps More Vaccine Into Your Blood Every 12 Hours
"New York, NY—To simplify booster injections against COVID-19, Pfizer has developed a new Bane-style Vacci-Suit™ to enable the automatic injection of new doses. The suit comes with up to ten additional doses that can be switched out as new vaccines are developed.
"The suit comes with a built-in mask for extra safety," said a spokesperson for Pfizer. "We've given the very first suit to Dr. Fauci so he can help spread the news on this innovative technology.
"No one cared who I was before I put on the mask," said Dr. Anthony Fauci in an interview with Don Lemon on CNN. "Before COVID no one knew my name. Now I am proud to unveil an even more elaborate mask and self-injecting bio-suit to further cement my place in history. "
"And save lives," he added.
"I can't understand what you're saying," said Don Lemon. "Can you take off the mask for a minute?
"It would be extremely painful," warned Dr. Fauci. "I would advise you not to make further anti-science requests. I was born in science, molded by it. I am the premier authority on the subject. ".
Pfizer is expected to have 10,000 suits ready by Q3 2022, with more than a million planned before the end of the year. The Biden Administration is reportedly utilizing recent census data to make sure there are enough suits so that each American can have three. Any remainders will be sent over to Ethiopia, delaying food shipments temporarily. . . "
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2649115]I think you are confused.
Neither ATK tests nor RT-PCR confuse Covid with the common cold or flu.[/QUOTE]You are the one that is confused. ATK tests do not test for Covid-19, they test for Corona viruses of any kind including the common cold.
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[QUOTE=Travv;2649450]"New York, NYTo simplify booster injections against COVID-19, Pfizer has developed a new Bane-style Vacci-Suit to enable the automatic injection of new doses. The suit comes with up to ten additional doses that can be switched out as new vaccines are developed.
"The suit comes with a built-in mask for extra safety," said a spokesperson for Pfizer. "We've given the very first suit to Dr. Fauci so he can help spread the news on this innovative technology.
"No one cared who I was before I put on the mask," said Dr. Anthony Fauci in an interview with Don Lemon on CNN. "Before COVID no one knew my name. Now I am proud to unveil an even more elaborate mask and self-injecting bio-suit to further cement my place in history. "
"And save lives," he added.
"I can't understand what you're saying," said Don Lemon. "Can you take off the mask for a minute?
"It would be extremely painful," warned Dr. Fauci. "I would advise you not to make further anti-science requests. I was born in science, molded by it. I am the premier authority on the subject. ".
Pfizer is expected to have 10,000 suits ready by Q3 2022, with more than a million planned before the end of the year. The Biden Administration is reportedly utilizing recent census data to make sure there are enough suits so that each American can have three. Any remainders will be sent over to Ethiopia, delaying food shipments temporarily. . . "[/QUOTE]Can you add additional drugs to the mix. Like Viagra every 12 hours too? - 555.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2636624]Correct. The online scene meant for Thai guys is neither appealing nor accessible to tourists. Even for residents, it only appeals to the small group who speak / read / write Thai reasonably well.
One thing I hated about the online scene was funneling. The site has 200 girls, I pick 10, then three reply within a reasonable timeframe, two of those go silent after I ask for an address. In my experience, being a Farang is already a filter, plenty of girls will refuse / not reply, or try to charge extra. Admittedly, I tried the Thai online scene pre-Covid, maybe it's a bit better now, with them being more desperate for business.
Maybe the the LINE groups that GoatScrot mentions are good, but I've been in one of those (courtesy of a FanFinFin girl) and deleted it after a week. Too much noise, can't browse/search, just an endless feed of posts, often repetitive. Presumably it's fun for some people, but not for me.
Technically, a sufficiently motivated and patient Farang could score in Thai-oriented online scene only using English, but there are obstacles at each step.[/QUOTE]Well. Apparently one of our own has broken into this "Thai only" online market and is kicking ass and taking names. He is beating the local Thais at their own game. Top 25 status in the least amount of time as a member. Big deal especially when you consider the very top members are just agents. And if you were ever lucky enough to meet the guy. You know he is just a forever tourist that can't speak a lick of Thai. Wonder what type of shit he tells these girls? Still having a good time with his game and has been getting serious action at Thailands' expense. Let Google help you with the who part. LOL. WWJACOBS.
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1% testing positive upon landing in Phuket. 4% positive on their 2nd RT-PCR test on 5th day of quarantine. So 1 in 25 chance you are going to hospital for 10 days before your quarantine is up. 5 days quarantine, 1 day RT-PCR test results, then 10+ days hospital is 16 days of your vacation. Imagine if your vacation was scheduled for 2 weeks? You'd miss your flight home!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2650333]1% testing positive upon landing in Phuket. 4% positive on their 2nd RT-PCR test on 5th day of quarantine. So 1 in 25 chance you are going to hospital for 10 days before your quarantine is up. 5 days quarantine, 1 day RT-PCR test results, then 10+ days hospital is 16 days of your vacation. Imagine if your vacation was scheduled for 2 weeks? You'd miss your flight home![/QUOTE]Although we will never know, it would be interesting to know why there is a big jump in testing positive on the second test.
Did they catch it from home or did they run out to Bangla Road and get as many girls as they could find on the first few nights.
Depending on how many days you stay it is probably prudent to chill on the first couple / three days so you can pass the test on the 5th. Then go crazy.
At the moment there are tons of cases on workers on Bangla, so chances are you are going to come into contact with omicron while there. Whether or not you get infected is another matter but you will most likely come into contact with it.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2650441]Depending on how many days you stay it is probably prudent to chill on the first couple / three days so you can pass the test on the 5th. Then go crazy.[/QUOTE]
If you're in Thailand for mongering, the optimal strategy is to be extremely cautious until you take the swab for the 2nd test, then go all-out crazy immediately afterwards, perhaps line up a few girls to arrive right after getting back to the hotel. If you happen to test positive, at least you had your bit of fun before the 10-day imprisonment. If you happen to be negative, continue with the crazy, perhaps slightly toned down.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2650441]Although we will never know, it would be interesting to know why there is a big jump in testing positive on the second test.[/QUOTE]My assumption is the second test is intended to find people who caught COVID while traveling, which seems to be happening at a 4% rate. I feel very COVID safe when home alone, but I could easily catch COVID sitting in the middle of economy or waiting in a massive airport gate area.
Thinking back about 8 months, the sandbox concept seemed to be built on the assumption that nearly everybody in the sandbox would be vaccinated and there would be near zero COVID. If I recall, there was going to be a threshold of something like 120 new COVID cases per week in Phuket, anything above that threshold could close down the sandbox. That's from an foggy old memory, which is probably valid in concept but wrong in numbers. Clearly, that concept went in the trash.
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What Chinese New Year?
[URL]https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-pmn/cathay-pacific-to-suspend-transit-travelers-from-high-risk-places-from-jan-16[/URL]
Hong Kong is stopping transit flights. Cargo planes are down to 20% of pre covid loads "because of staffing". Chinese new year is almost on us (Feb 1, Year of the Bonobo). Now if "they" block tells of millions of Chinese and others moving about / home for that, heaven help us. There were mad scenes some years ago when China was covered by snow and migrants could not make their annual pilgrimage home to their villages. And then you have tinkering with global logistics.
You have to re-arrange your priorities. There are much bigger players about than you and your LBFM desires.
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Comments from Health Minister. A Path to Test and Go restarting
Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul just announced that data coming out is confirming that Omicron is much milder than Delta. For this reason restrictions will be less than previous big waves and the various rentry schemes like Test and Go could be reintroduced sooner than we were expecting.
The most likely path to easing entry requirement is by adding Bangkok and Pattaya to the sandbox schemes in the next few weeks. Which means a 7 day hotel stay but you are free to leave and do what you want during the day.
The reintroduction of the Test and Go scheme, where you only need to stay at a hotel for 1 night, would probably be reintroduced as soon as cases start coming down in western countries. Hopefully this is not too far away.
My personal opinion is that once the Test and Go scheme is back and runs successfully for say 8 weeks, they will scrap it and allow normal entry. Probably only need ATK before flight and then just enter as per pre pandemic.
For full articles see the Bangkok Post and Thethaiger.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2651242]Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul just announced that data coming out is confirming that Omicron is much milder than Delta. For this reason restrictions will be less than previous big waves and the various rentry schemes like Test and Go could be reintroduced sooner than we were expecting.
The most likely path to easing entry requirement is by adding Bangkok and Pattaya to the sandbox schemes in the next few weeks. Which means a 7 day hotel stay but you are free to leave and do what you want during the day.
The reintroduction of the Test and Go scheme, where you only need to stay at a hotel for 1 night, would probably be reintroduced as soon as cases start coming down in western countries. Hopefully this is not too far away.
My personal opinion is that once the Test and Go scheme is back and runs successfully for say 8 weeks, they will scrap it and allow normal entry. Probably only need ATK before flight and then just enter as per pre pandemic.
For full articles see the Bangkok Post and Thethaiger.[/QUOTE]One new problem is that the traveler needs to get a PRC test 72 hours before they get on the plane to Thailand. In the US, the surge of the new covid version has flooded testing centers across the country. What use to take 1 or 2 days is now taking 3 to 4 days. Travelers may not be able to get their test results in time to even be allowed to board their flights.
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[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2651304]One new problem is that the traveler needs to get a PRC test 72 hours before they get on the plane to Thailand. In the US, the surge of the new covid version has flooded testing centers across the country. What use to take 1 or 2 days is now taking 3 to 4 days. Travelers may not be able to get their test results in time to even be allowed to board their flights.[/QUOTE]You have to find out if the testing place has a lab onsite like a hospital. You can't go to your local pharmacy that has to FedEx the test now that pilots are getting covid and causing delays.
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[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2651304]One new problem is that the traveler needs to get a PRC test 72 hours before they get on the plane to Thailand. In the US, the surge of the new covid version has flooded testing centers across the country. What use to take 1 or 2 days is now taking 3 to 4 days. Travelers may not be able to get their test results in time to even be allowed to board their flights.[/QUOTE]You usually need a Travel specific PCR test that comes with a medical type fit to fly certificate. These tests are not free and need to be booked and undertaken at specific locations. The good news is that they do get prioritised and the results come back quickly. I paid $150 for the 24 hour test and it came back in about 12 hours. You can pay more to get the result back in 6 hours, I saw some places that could do it in 30 minutes but it was more expensive.
I don't think the standard goverment PCR test can be used for the purpose of International Travel. I may be wrong, but in the 6 or so international trips I have made over the last 6 months I paid for the expidited travel test at a cost of around $150 a pop.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2651242]The reintroduction of the Test and Go scheme, where you only need to stay at a hotel for 1 night, would probably be reintroduced as soon as cases start coming down in western countries. Hopefully this is not too far away.[/QUOTE]Like South Africa before, UK rates of infection have started to fall and rapidly while those that have been infected have had milder symptoms. News reports say that epidemiologists see reason to believe that Covid will move into an endemic stage soon with the rest of the world to follow as Omicron spreads, then declines and more people are vaccinated, there are still questions on how Omicron will affect a population with lower vaccination rates.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2651315]You usually need a Travel specific PCR test that comes with a medical type fit to fly certificate. These tests are not free and need to be booked and undertaken at specific locations. The good news is that they do get prioritised and the results come back quickly. I paid $150 for the 24 hour test and it came back in about 12 hours. You can pay more to get the result back in 6 hours, I saw some places that could do it in 30 minutes but it was more expensive.[/QUOTE]Also check your airline and transfer airport for their requirements to fly. For my case, Thailand requires RT-PCR testing within 72 hours of flight time, but my airline requires testing within 48 hours. Combine reduced weekend testing hours and a late weekend flight time, I have a very short window when I can actually take my RT-PCR test with 24-hour turn around time. Be sure to advance schedule your test time carefully. To be safe, I might pay the extra $75 to get 1-hour turn around testing.
Regarding cost of the testing, my friend expected to pay $150 for his 24-hour test results, but the test facility asked for his insurance card and they charged him nothing.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2651311]You have to find out if the testing place has a lab onsite like a hospital. You can't go to your local pharmacy that has to FedEx the test now that pilots are getting covid and causing delays.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your and MaxBKK's advice and information. Thank you!
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It's time to cancel my travel plans
Just finished a call with a Phuket friend. Her business has 14 workers, all of them vaccinated. Today there were only 6 working, the other 8 were all home battling COVID. Of the 6 that worked today, 4 have already recovered from COVID. Only 2 of 14 have avoided COVID, so far.
The first of the recovered workers reported her illness to authorities and was then isolated in a hotel room. That was 2 weeks ago and she is now recovered and working. None of the other workers reported their illnesses. All were diagnosed using at home testing.
The published numbers of COVID cases in Thailand are not a reflection of how many cases exist. Perhaps is a reflection of how many tourists tested positive. Many Thai people simply are not reporting their illnesses.
Tourists must pass an arrival test, a day 5-6 test, and a pre-return flight test. Chances of having a healthy vacation are looking smaller and smaller.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2651748]Just finished a call with a Phuket friend. Her business has 14 workers, all of them vaccinated. Today there were only 6 working, the other 8 were all home battling COVID. Of the 6 that worked today, 4 have already recovered from COVID. Only 2 of 14 have avoided COVID, so far.
The first of the recovered workers reported her illness to authorities and was then isolated in a hotel room. That was 2 weeks ago and she is now recovered and working. None of the other workers reported their illnesses. All were diagnosed using at home testing.
The published numbers of COVID cases in Thailand are not a reflection of how many cases exist. Perhaps is a reflection of how many tourists tested positive. Many Thai people simply are not reporting their illnesses.
Tourists must pass an arrival test, a day 5-6 test, and a pre-return flight test. Chances of having a healthy vacation are looking smaller and smaller.[/QUOTE]Of coarse its under reported, same with every other country out there but your still leaving you home to go about your daily routine I'm betting. Nobody who self tests will report it unless they have severe symptoms. Simple fact is those wanting to stay at home for Christmas and New Years missed out on coming to Thailand. I too was planning on coming after New Years but as soon as I heard about Omicron I left a week later. What you are reporting about the bar in Phuket is just an outbreak in a specific bar, it can happen in any bar where the girls are all in one confined area. Doesn't mean that every bar is having an outbreak. What the bar should have done was close itself down upon learning several of the girls were positive for covid and self isolated all of the girls. Trying to stay open is just spreading it to the others over and over again. In fact the bar owner and manager can get in serious trouble for not calling the hotline and reporting these cases. And 'battling covid'. Sorry man but its not a battle if your vaccinated, its a day of feeling sick and then your tired for a day after.
Vacations are dead for the time being. There is no 'safe healthy vacation' that consists of flying halfway around the world to have sex with hot Asian girls anymore. Traveling to the other side of the world and enjoying yourself will for the next year or two be for the long time vacationers, those willing and able to spend months in a country. Your two week trips just won't work anymore, not with all of the testing and requirements. Unless you can fly direct from your home city to Thailand your trip starts and ends in jeopardy, so many flights are being canceled since so many employees are calling in sick.
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My guess is that Omicron will have mostly passed by March 1, so it's just a blip.
The killer for Thailand is that Test and Go has been shutdown for a month, and probably for another month, so there is 2 months worth of business lost. Since so many people came for the holidays, as they leave and are not replaced, Pattaya and Phuket will empty out. If Test and Go is not reinstated by April 1, the post Songkran period will be as dead as a doornail.
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Overseas sex destinations now only for the vaccinated
The old days are gone, there are new rules in this world if you want to find hot young women for sex. To the unvaccinated sex tourists just forget about it and stay at home, foreign governments just aren't going to listen to your arguments. They only want those who are vaccinated, they don't want anti vaxxers who might tax their hospital systems. The days of living in places such as Florida and doing 4 short trips a year so you can keep seeing your family are finished. Only those who have the money and the spare time and can take 3 months off from their home life can enjoy a long sex retreat. Unless your lucky enough to have a direct flight from your city to Thailand but even with those fights your going to have some severe hurdles to go through if your an anti vaxxer. I've got a buddy here who can 'work from home' and has so far done this here in Thailand without his company back home figuring out he's nowhere near his home. Sadly though he has to make it back home for some in person work that can't be done remotely and things might get dicey come time for his flight home.
Also gone are those old youtubers who did a massive amount of border runs to keep living in Thailand, possibly even a handful of posters here who can no longer manage this type of visa. Then there are those who choose the more riskier path. The 'not so legal' ways of getting an extension. You see them on youtube, too young to get a retirement visa but living in Thailand for years and years (CB Media for example). Flaunting the system in some way as to keep on getting their passport stamped most likely by the same visa agent and immigration officer over and over again. Sometimes its not all that much cloak and dagger types of dealings but when you enter on a tourist visa and leave 4 years later on a 'volunteer' visa there are questions. Or the guy who takes a kickboxing class once a week to 'stay in school' but he's never allowed to practice because he's twice the size of those in his class. Risks are risks, you deal with the consequences if caught.
Maybe things return to normal in two years, we will see what happens as they happen. But if your an anti vaxxer your chances of doing your short overseas sex tours might be hard to accomplish. These second and third world countries got hit pretty hard when the pandemic came along and things finally stabilized with the shipments of vaccines. And the people here are lining up for shots without question.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2651932]The old days are gone, there are new rules in this world if you want to find hot young women for sex. To the unvaccinated sex tourists just forget about it and stay at home, foreign governments just aren't going to listen to your arguments.[/QUOTE]Incorrect. To the sex tourists that don't have vaccination cards, forget it and stay at home. There is a difference!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651950]Incorrect. To the sex tourists that don't have vaccination cards, forget it and stay at home. There is a difference![/QUOTE]If you are implying that you can fly into Thailand with a false vaccination card you are mistaken, at least for now. You need a QR code showing all of your vaccination info and who knows what other info is on there. I got mine from my online hospital account. You send in that QR code so they can check your status. They won't accept a photo of a card. Same with the Cambodia visa, you need to upload your QR code to get your visa to enter the country.
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Test and Go. Proposal to resume
The Public Health Minister Anutin plans to make a proposal to reopen registration for the Test & Go quarantine exemption scheme at the next CCSA general meeting.
Anutin was the minister which initially pushed for the suspension of the Test and Go scheme, so his reversal will probably see the scheme resumed.
The proposed date will become clearer with the political manouverings leading up to the meeting.
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Some on here report that Thailand is going overboard with COVID paranoia. Not even close compared to China! In the past 2 days the stories out of China are bizarre. China claims it has detected it's first Omicron case. An office worker caught Omicron from a parcel that was shipped out of Canada, went through USA and Hong Kong, and handled by the office worker who got Omicron. China is now blaming Canada and USA for passing Omicron to them. The entire office building has been under lockdown for a couple of days now and employees have not been able to go home. Today's story is that a pet store worker got COVID. They tested the animals and a couple of hamsters tested positive for COVID. China has decided to cull 2000 animals guilty by association.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2651932] But if your an anti vaxxer your chances of doing your short overseas sex tours might be hard to accomplish. These second and third world countries got hit pretty hard when the pandemic came along and things finally stabilized with the shipments of vaccines. And the people here are lining up for shots without question.[/QUOTE]Why all the nostalgia and hatred? I am not jabbed and have decided not to take the jab, no matter what the cost. I merely adapt. Next week, I am in Eastern Europe.
I believe the Covid stuff will end in about 2 months and the carbon tax stuff will then kick in. I am already making contingency plans for that.
Good on Pattaya's hookers for taking the clot shot. They would not be my first port of call for medical advice. Not that it matters. My mind is made up. No clot shot for me. I am too young and pretty to die.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2652669]Why all the nostalgia and hatred? I am not jabbed and have decided not to take the jab, no matter what the cost. I merely adapt. Next week, I am in Eastern Europe. I believe the Covid stuff will end in about 2 months and the carbon tax stuff will then kick in. I am already making contingency plans for that. Good on Pattaya's hookers for taking the clot shot. They would not be my first port of call for medical advice. Not that it matters. My mind is made up. No clot shot for me. I am too young and pretty to die.[/QUOTE]Don't take what I said the wrong way, I am not pro or con on the vaccination status of anyone. Its their business. I'm just trying to look at the long term effects and what I went through to get here. Doom and gloom may be on the horizon. Just can't see everything getting back to normal for years and years. It is now ingrained in many countries that you better be vaccinated or else. Just look at Australia. You read of Omicron going rampant and then burning itself out. That's not happening in Thailand and that's not good news, by wearing masks and continuing with their protocols they are just delaying the burnout. Everywhere you go you see Thai's wearing masks, buying new masks. Following the rules. Just can't see the governments here lessening their control right now.
Now I did hear an interesting theory on what's going on behind the scenes here that might make things clearer. Guy said Thailand is basically run by a a dozen families. The families in the electronic sector are making money hand over fist. The families in the bar scene are losing money hand over fist. And those in charge want to keep them on their knees so they can swoop in and buy property and businesses pennies on the baht. So everyone hoping for a quick turnaround of the gogo bars might have to wait for some time.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2651969]If you are implying that you can fly into Thailand with a false vaccination card you are mistaken, at least for now. You need a QR code showing all of your vaccination info and who knows what other info is on there.[/QUOTE]Still no problem. My boy just said it is 7 day quarentine for vaxed and 10 day quarentine for unvaxed. So an extra 3 days in jail and non-vaxed can have at it as well. That is Thailand though. A lot of other countries you can just flash them a picture of your card on your phone. Nobody is checking shit with a microscope. Strange thing is that I know a bunch of people vaxed that have covid right now.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2651969]If you are implying that you can fly into Thailand with a false vaccination card you are mistaken, at least for now. You need a QR code showing all of your vaccination info and who knows what other info is on there. I got mine from my online hospital account. You send in that QR code so they can check your status. They won't accept a photo of a card. Same with the Cambodia visa, you need to upload your QR code to get your visa to enter the country.[/QUOTE]This asshole has been flying all over with a fake vax card and bragging about it.
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Test and Go is Back?
I just received an email from one of my regular resorts that stated Test and Go is back starting February 1. A key difference is tourists must stay in an approved hotel on day 1 and day 5, which matches RT-PCR test dates. Other readings imply that medical insurance must cover all possible COVID situations. Take it for what it's worth, maybe not formalized yet.
I'll still wait until I have good confidence that a positive test and mild symptoms will not force me into a miserable quarantine situation. I don't mind quarantine if I test positive and I can be in the hotel that I selected.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2653201]This asshole has been flying all over with a fake vax card and bragging about it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for being a concerned citizen. I also went into Walmart in the USA without a mask like 50 times since they announced people no longer had to wear masks there anymore. They stopped disinfecting those carts though, so they must not give a shit about our health like they claimed they did.
I can't for the life of me understand why you are running all around ISG stressing yourself about whether I get sick or not. Quick, you better run over to the other thread where ET is bragging about fucking 2000 hookers with no condom. He is bound to end up catching something one of these days and you need to jump in to protect him. From your dungeon you should call up the Bangkok Hilton and make a reservation for him for being out in the world where he could possibly get sick.
Meanwhile, my vaccinated girlfriend has Covid and is quarantined in a Peruvian hospital for 15 days because they do not want her to infect anybody, so I can not see her this trip. Meanwhile I am out here with nothing so it is impossible for me to infect anybody with something I do not have. It seems your feeble mind can not understand that. You live in Guatemala, so I am sure that you read Spanish.
Signed, Asshole By Nature.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653431]Meanwhile, my vaccinated girlfriend is quarantined in a Peruvian hospital for 15 days, so I can not see her this trip. You live in Guatemala, so I am sure that you read Spanish.
Signed, Asshole By Nature.[/QUOTE]She doesn't say she is in a hospital.
BTW, my Thai ex-girlfriend wanted to spend a week with me, so she told her customer that she had Covid, to get rid of him for a while.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653431]I also went into Walmart without a mask like 50 times since they announced people no longer had to wear masks there anymore. I can't for the life of me understand why you are running all around ISG stressing yourself about whether I get sick or not. Quick, you better run over to the other thread where ET is bragging about fucking 2000 hookers with no condom. You should call up the Bangkok Hilton and make a reservation for him.
Meanwhile, my vaccinated girlfriend is quarantined in a Peruvian hospital for 15 days, so I can not see her this trip. You live in Guatemala, so I am sure that you read Spanish.
Signed, Asshole By Nature.[/QUOTE]LOL. Hmm. I wouldn't characterize it as "bragging". Maybe if all of the 1,000's I barebacked were 9+ girls and for free.
No, I was merely replying to a question:
[QUOTE]So my question. If you have a x% of going bareback with a girl which is common. What is the % of in a 12-15 day trip in the Land you end up itching and burning headed to the Pharmacy? LOL.[/QUOTE]And I felt it wouldn't be useful info if I didn't cite truthful figures and results and instead gave the impression that I only barebacked 2-3 girls over a span of 12-15 days once or twice a year as was possibly suggested in the question.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2653416]I just received an email from one of my regular resorts that stated Test and Go is back starting February 1. A key difference is tourists must stay in an approved hotel on day 1 and day 5,[/QUOTE]That ain't test and go if you have to stay there 5 days. That is more reduced sandbox.
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Yes.
Yes, so you either have to make a reservation with the same designated hotel for a maximum of five nights or check out for three days and then check back in on day 5. The PCR tests are 2200 b per test so add another 4400 b to your budget to start your trip, not including the extra hotel cost for day 5 (and day 1). Not to mention, it's unclear to me if you were to test positive on day 5, does that mean a trip to the hospital for ten days even if asymptomatic? I am hearing many horror stories about starting out your visit in a field hospital.
And they really expect 5 mm to 8 mm tourists by year end with this revised policy?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653446]That ain't test and go if you have to stay there 5 days. That is more reduced sandbox.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;2653460]And they really expect 5 mm to 8 mm tourists by year end with this revised policy?[/QUOTE]Only led by the nose mongers will go to LOS under those conditions. There is too much uncertainty. I would expect massive consolidation in the Thai property sector as the rich squeeze out the losers who had a bar or cafe going to keep their ho happy.
Starting back from scratch, they want shopaholic women and planes full of Chinese, who just want to sample Chinese food, Thai style. They are not interested in horny farangs like me, who will be dropping a small fortune next week on some medical procedures I would have got done at Bumrungrad. Fine.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2653435]She doesn't say she is in a hospital.
BTW, my Thai ex-girlfriend wanted to spend a week with me, so she told her customer that she had Covid, to get rid of him for a while.[/QUOTE]Sorry pimp if I do not include 100% of every conversation that I copy. But do you see it now?
I am not a customer. When I say girlfriend I mean normal girlfriend, not someone I am giving money to. A couple of months ago I gave her $25 to get back and forth to see me after work and she got angry and gave the money back and said it felt like I was paying her.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2653437]LOL. Hmm. I wouldn't characterize it as "bragging". Maybe if all of the 1,000's I barebacked were 9+ girls and for free.[/QUOTE]LOL. You know I only said that because it was the term he used. For some reason some people attribute saying something that may be astronomical to them and out of their reach as bragging.
I can't spell worth a shit anymore but when my 9 year old nephew told me that he won the district spelling bee I did not see it as him bragging. I just saw it as him letting me know he won the spelling bee.
Nobody is running around giving a shit if the person next to them has been vaccinated, espeically if they are showing no signs of sickness. It is the governments that are making these rules of showing vaccine cards thinking it will make people feel they are doing something and making a difference when it is not doing a damn thing.
If I have a vaccine card and I have covid then I can enter the restaurant. If I do not have a vaccine card and do not have covid then I can not enter the restaurant. Makes no sense at all allowing someone to enter or not based on having a card or vaccine rather than having an actual disease.
Yesterday to get into Peru I only had to show a negative test, but when I went to the grocery store to buy water and to a restaurant to eat, I had to show a vaccine card. Ridiculous to me when my girl is laying up in a hospital right now with covid having been vaccinated.
Cue Huacho's rant about how I have been entering grocery stores to buy water using a fake vaccine card.
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No one is going to sign up for this PCR test on the 1st and 5th day crap. I predict these rules will be amended over the next few days after they hear all the negative feedback people have. Then it will be posted in the Royal Gazette.
Example how silly this rule is. Guy flies in to Bangkok and does 1 night stay in Sha+ hotel. He came back to Thailand to be with his family in Rayong. So after 1 night he drives 3-4 hours to Rayong. On the 5th day he has to book a SHA+ hotel for 1 night and drive 3-4 hours back to Bangkok to get a PCR test. If he had COVID he's already spread it around Rayong so at the very least let him just get the 5th day COVID test in Rayong.
I think the thought process was that people would be lazy and book 5 straight nights at the Test and Go hotel instead of booking nights 1 and 5. One of the things SHA+ hotels were complaining about is that people only stay 1 night and leave.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653501]Sorry pimp if I do not include 100% of every conversation that I copy. But do you see it now?
I am not a customer. When I say girlfriend I mean normal girlfriend, not someone I am giving money to. A couple of months ago I gave her $25 to get back and forth to see me after work and she got angry and gave the money back and said it felt like I was paying her.[/QUOTE]Yep. She said she was in the hospital.
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Mexico Folds
Mexico has removed all Covid 19 entry requirements. As I have been saying between the postings of the weirdos in the Philippines, it would take those with huevos to break the stalemate. It will be good to go back. Hopefully, no long term residents of the Philippines will pollute it with their presence.
Vamos México!
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2653552]Mexico has removed all Covid 19 entry requirements. Vamos Mxico![/QUOTE]Do you have an article for this? Different cities in Mexico have had different entry requirements.
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Mexico
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653568]Do you have an article for this? Different cities in Mexico have had different entry requirements.[/QUOTE][URL]https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/suiza/index.php/turismo/covid-19/english[/URL]
[URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions[/URL] Many airlines use this. I use it too but more as well.
[URL]https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mexico/entry-requirements[/URL]#entry-rules-in-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653501]Sorry pimp if I do not include 100% of every conversation that I copy. But do you see it now?
I am not a customer. When I say girlfriend I mean normal girlfriend, not someone I am giving money to. A couple of months ago I gave her $25 to get back and forth to see me after work and she got angry and gave the money back and said it felt like I was paying her.[/QUOTE]You have a funny definition of a girlfriend. You seem to have a girlfriend in every city that you have ever been to and multiple girlfriends in most. You actually have many friends that are girls instead of girlfriends.
It's all good I think most guys understand what you mean.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2653521]No one is going to sign up for this PCR test on the 1st and 5th day crap. I predict these rules will be amended over the next few days after they hear all the negative feedback people have. Then it will be posted in the Royal Gazette.
Example how silly this rule is. Guy flies in to Bangkok and does 1 night stay in Sha+ hotel. He came back to Thailand to be with his family in Rayong. So after 1 night he drives 3-4 hours to Rayong. On the 5th day he has to book a SHA+ hotel for 1 night and drive 3-4 hours back to Bangkok to get a PCR test. If he had COVID he's already spread it around Rayong so at the very least let him just get the 5th day COVID test in Rayong.
I think the thought process was that people would be lazy and book 5 straight nights at the Test and Go hotel instead of booking nights 1 and 5. One of the things SHA+ hotels were complaining about is that people only stay 1 night and leave.[/QUOTE]You don't get Thai Govt. Officials do you.
Hint. They need to look important and smart.
Immigration require you to draw hand made Map to your house to prove residency in Rayong is lunatitacal.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2653579]You have a funny definition of a girlfriend. You seem to have a girlfriend in every city that you have ever been to and multiple girlfriends in most. You actually have many friends that are girls instead of girlfriends.
It's all good I think most guys understand what you mean.[/QUOTE]I think most of us don't understand this guy.
Only he does it the right way.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2653521]No one is going to sign up for this PCR test on the 1st and 5th day crap. I predict these rules will be amended over the next few days after they hear all the negative feedback people have. Then it will be posted in the Royal Gazette.
Example how silly this rule is. Guy flies in to Bangkok and does 1 night stay in Sha+ hotel. He came back to Thailand to be with his family in Rayong. So after 1 night he drives 3-4 hours to Rayong. On the 5th day he has to book a SHA+ hotel for 1 night and drive 3-4 hours back to Bangkok to get a PCR test. If he had COVID he's already spread it around Rayong so at the very least let him just get the 5th day COVID test in Rayong.
I think the thought process was that people would be lazy and book 5 straight nights at the Test and Go hotel instead of booking nights 1 and 5. One of the things SHA+ hotels were complaining about is that people only stay 1 night and leave.[/QUOTE]I agree with what you're saying but just a correction the SHA hotel for the second test can be in any province in Thailand only the first hotel needs to be in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653568]Do you have an article for this? Different cities in Mexico have had different entry requirements.[/QUOTE]Mexico has dropped all Covid requirements to enter the country.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2653584]I agree with what you're saying but just a correction the SHA hotel for the second test can be in any province in Thailand only the first hotel needs to be in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I can't argue with you, because the new rules have not yet been published.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2653579]You have a funny definition of a girlfriend. You seem to have a girlfriend in every city that you have ever been to and multiple girlfriends in most. You actually have many friends that are girls instead of girlfriends.
It's all good I think most guys understand what you mean.[/QUOTE]Maybe I do have a funny definition. When I say girlfriend I mean my main girl that I have in a particular place that I go out and do normal shit like travel and go to the movies with.
Then I would also have several side chicks that we probably just mainly fuck, but I would not refer to them as a girlfriend. I would refer to them as a chick that I mess with or one of my chicks.
Then I would refer to a chick that I give money to as a hooker. And this would be a payment on a per meeting basis. I do not send remittances or keep anyone on retainer. If you did not get it when you were in front of me then you will not be getting it.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2653584]I agree with what you're saying but just a correction the SHA hotel for the second test can be in any province in Thailand only the first hotel needs to be in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]You are correct you can get the 2nd test in any province but not every province will have SHA+ hotels. We'll see the SHA+ hotel list and what the Royal Gazette ends up publishing after the backlash this new proposal generates.
Correct Tomas. Now your 1st 16 days in Thailand could be wasted. Day 1 SHA+ hotel waiting for test. Days 2-5 for anyone smart is really don't go with any girls and more or less stay in your hotel. Day 5 SHA+ hotel waiting test. Day 6 test is positive even though you are symptomatic. Days 6-16 you're in a hospital with all other COVID Farang. At least for other countries you get to stay in the hotel for quarantine and not go to a hospital.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;2653460]…. it's unclear to me if you were to test positive on day 5, does that mean a trip to the hospital for ten days even if asymptomatic? I am hearing many horror stories …[/QUOTE]For me, that is the main problem with Thailand travel now.
I was assuming that there was no need to make your first and fifth nights in the same hotel. Thought I could do night 1 in Bangkok and night 5 in Hua Hin and any other place other times.
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Mexico's Second Link
[URL]https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mexico/entry-requirements[/URL]#entry-rules-in-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19.
Mexico's second link did not come up properly so there it is above. I am moderated here, meaning I cannot edit my own posts and must wait until they are approved. This is because a former USAID fat cat, who lives in the Philippines and who has never posted one, single solitary report but it here for other, more sinister reasons, objected to me calling prostitutes he has never met and I have skanks, just as one might call them hookers (an Americanism) or whatever.
As regards your points about various regions of Mexico having different rules, they do not control border entry, which is a privilege that can be denied even to citizens as we have seen during this Covid baloney. I have forfeited several flights during Covid because of that. Hotels next week have told me I must produce certs on arrival. Fancy arriving late at night with no certs. You'd be out with Jesus, Mary and Joseph hoping to get into a shed with a water buffalo.
Davos is winding up now. And so too is Covid. This is so even though several. France, Netherlands, Greece, Italy, Austria / Germany and more have, along with the Nazi state of Australia, draconian laws.
The rule of thumb now is one must check multiple sources before travel for things like locator forms.
Mongering is now a matter of logistics, of putting an increasing number of ducks in order. In the past, mongers hit BKK and Pattaya only. Travel anywhere beyond them was too exotic, too much hassle. Now they too are too much hassle because of too many rules by too many bodies.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2653577][URL]https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/suiza/index.php/turismo/covid-19/english[/URL]
[URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions[/URL] Many airlines use this. I use it too but more as well.
[URL]https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mexico/entry-requirements[/URL]#entry-rules-in-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653568]Do you have an article for this? Different cities in Mexico have had different entry requirements.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2653627]For me, that is the main problem with Thailand travel now.
I was assuming that there was no need to make your first and fifth nights in the same hotel. Thought I could do night 1 in Bangkok and night 5 in Hua Hin and any other place other times.[/QUOTE]The specific rules for the new Test and Go have not been published. Until then, everyone is guessing.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2653748]As regards your points about various regions of Mexico having different rules, they do not control border entry, which is a privilege that can be denied even to citizens as we have seen during this Covid baloney.[/QUOTE]Cancun, Mexico City, Puerto Vallarta, LOS Cabos all have different requirements to enter Mexico by air.
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Risk adverse
That's a good description to line out the risk you undertake by going to Thailand now. Because Omicron virus does not always appear on first test, there is always the potential that you were infected on your journey to Bangkok so even if you stayed in your hotel for day 2- 5, you could still test positive because of a prior contact. The whole reason for the the additional testing on Day 5 is because some tourists and citizens entering the country in late 2021 were tested as negative and then discovered afterwards that they had been infected on their flight or traveling to airport or whatever.
But is it a steadfast rule that you have to go to hospital if you tested positive on either day 1 or 5 or can you stay isolated in your hotel?
It would still suck as you pointed out as that means up to 16 days you are in limbo, either in a hospital or quarantined. The risks might be small but who knows given the virulence of Omicron. IMHO, I am taking a hard pass on traveling there at the present time. Also, since the clubs are closed and the drink curfew is at 11 pm, it is also another reason not to bother. It seems the joy has left the city for late night carousing, mongering, or just wandering about in the wee hours.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2653624]You are correct you can get the 2nd test in any province but not every province will have SHA+ hotels. We'll see the SHA+ hotel list and what the Royal Gazette ends up publishing after the backlash this new proposal generates.
Correct Tomas. Now your 1st 16 days in Thailand could be wasted. Day 1 SHA+ hotel waiting for test. Days 2-5 for anyone smart is really don't go with any girls and more or less stay in your hotel. Day 5 SHA+ hotel waiting test. Day 6 test is positive even though you are symptomatic. Days 6-16 you're in a hospital with all other COVID Farang. At least for other countries you get to stay in the hotel for quarantine and not go to a hospital.[/QUOTE]
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The latest Test and Go rules.
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Quarantine Question
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2653851]But is it a steadfast rule that you have to go to hospital if you tested positive on either day 1 or 5 or can you stay isolated in your hotel?[/QUOTE]I wish we had a definitive answer to this question. Either way the thought of having to quarantine for an extra 10 days, even in a nice hotel, will keep me away from Thailand for the time being.
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Good Decision
[QUOTE=Allover;2653861]I wish we had a definitive answer to this question. Either way the thought of having to quarantine for an extra 10 days, even in a nice hotel, will keep me away from Thailand for the time being.[/QUOTE]Governments are flip flopping as they balance the views of their focus groups with those of their more draconian overlords. Travelling anywhere in these times, as I am, involved a lot of extra uncertainty. Added to that, one has to deal with all kinds of min or ass holes, some of whom let the authority go to their heads. To take an ongoing example. And let's hope Mr Entertainment or some other ghetto dweller does not weigh in. In ordinary times, you have two passports, one for the Peoples Republic of China and another for the Republic of China (IE Taiwan). Taiwanese I have bonked have claimed they ran into problems many times with airport / immigration staff mistaking one passport (and visa criteria) for the other. Fancy where we stand with non stop Covid flip flops.
We have seen such BS already with countries in Africa being on green lists (unrealistic for logistics) and others being on other lists. In the civilized world, a Dutch could fly from Portugal with no problem, or go from Spain to Portugal with no problem and then fly onwards but could not fly from Spain. Then the situation was reversed, Spain ok, Portugal not ok. If a simple hop like that is so problematic, what chance has a longer one (with stop overs)?
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2646672]Staying at an airbnb for the first time ever in Thailand and the owner upon me checking in informed me that I had to file paperwork with immigration with my passport showing my current residency. But I recalled reading in the Cambodia forum that travel agents would for a fee go to immigration on your behalf for a fee. So I stopped by a local visa agent and for 500 baht they went and filed the paperwork with my passport, just had to pick it up the next day. Anyway got their LINE ID and said I would be stopping by to do the 30 day extension and was informed I could now increase that to 60 days for an extra 2000 baht. Have plans to go to Cambodia but for 2000 baht this gives me some extra insurance if I am delayed, flight cancelations etc.[/QUOTE]This is from Richard Barrow. No more COVID extensions for Non Immigrant Visas like work or education. Looks like they are kicking them out and those who came on VOA. You will also have to do a 30 days automatic extend before applying for a 60 day COVID extension.
🔴 Good news for people on the special covid stamp. On this Immigration letter released today, it says that the deadline to apply for the stamp has now been extended to 25th March 2022. However, they add that they will be even stricter than before.
I will need to consult with some visa experts, but it looks like people with Visa on Arrival (Section 3) and Non-Immigrant Visa (Section 5) can no longer use the covid stamp to extend their stay in #Thailand. I will add more information soon.
Update: I've spoken with someone in Immigration and this is what I understand from that conversation:
If you have VOA you cannot change to Covid stamp.
If you have a Tourist Visa you can change to Covid stamp after you've extended it for 30 days.
If you have a Non be, for example, and you lose your job, you cannot change to Covid stamp.
On some other questions they will get back time. But Immigration should be releasing some infographics tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2653521]No one is going to sign up for this PCR test on the 1st and 5th day crap. I predict these rules will be amended over the next few days after they hear all the negative feedback people have. Then it will be posted in the Royal Gazette.
Example how silly this rule is. Guy flies in to Bangkok and does 1 night stay in Sha+ hotel. He came back to Thailand to be with his family in Rayong. So after 1 night he drives 3-4 hours to Rayong. On the 5th day he has to book a SHA+ hotel for 1 night and drive 3-4 hours back to Bangkok to get a PCR test. If he had COVID he's already spread it around Rayong so at the very least let him just get the 5th day COVID test in Rayong.
I think the thought process was that people would be lazy and book 5 straight nights at the Test and Go hotel instead of booking nights 1 and 5. One of the things SHA+ hotels were complaining about is that people only stay 1 night and leave.[/QUOTE]What if you are not staying 5 days? You want to go over just for the weekend. Can you just leave on day 3 or4?
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[QUOTE=Locamotive;2655103]What if you are not staying 5 days? You want to go over just for the weekend. Can you just leave on day 3 or4?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure not many people will go through the hassle of getting a Thailand Pass, purchasing asymptomatic COVID insurance, pay for a RT-PCR test before departure and again on arrival, be stuck in a SHA+ quarantine hotel for 1 night, only to leave a day or 3 later. But if you don't mind risking 10 days hospitalization there is nothing stopping you from leaving on day 3 or 4 if you tested negative. Keep in mind you will be there a minimum of 11 days if you test positive on arrival. You also may raise red flags for a sharp Immigration Officer too.
If you are really interested in doing this, ask on a Visa board like The Thaiger or AseanNow.
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Questions about visa and extensions
Hello folks,
First time on ISG. Nice to meet you all.
I am flying in to Thailand this week on the 30-day stay and have some questions regarding visa and extensions; if any of you could help me out with them that would be great:
1. Is it possible to apply for a tourist visa after I arrive in Thailand? Google seems to say no but I couldn't find a clear answer.
2. Is the maximum extension on the 30-day stay the 60-day Covid extension? Making the maximum stay 90 days? Any way to stay longer than 90 days, perhaps through multiple extensions?
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2654494]The Questionnaire of Identification of Risk Factors in Travelers. Once
Completed, arrivals to PVR International Airport will receive a QR.
[b]Complete the health questionnaire.[/b][/QUOTE]Exactly. This is not needed for Cancun or Mexico City, but is required for Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos. So what disinformation are you talking about? If you had actually been there then you would have known this instead of thinking you can google your way through the rest of your life.
That mold in the basement must be getting to you. Come out and live real life and go somewhere cool like the rest of us. Or maybe your kids are doing the right thing keeping you locked down there. You know grandpa is not allowed to come out for any fresh air. Just make sure his computer stays charged.
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Good Decision?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2654526]Governments are flip flopping as they balance the views of their focus groups with those of their more draconian overlords. Travelling anywhere in these times, as I am, involved a lot of extra uncertainty. Added to that, one has to deal with all kinds of min or ass holes, some of whom let the authority go to their heads. To take an ongoing example. And let's hope Mr Entertainment or some other ghetto dweller does not weigh in.[/QUOTE]Thanks for supporting my decision but I'm very unimpressed with the rest of your post.
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[QUOTE=IGotBottle;2655214]Hello folks,
First time on ISG. Nice to meet you all.
I am flying in to Thailand this week on the 30-day stay and have some questions regarding visa and extensions; if any of you could help me out with them that would be great:
1. Is it possible to apply for a tourist visa after I arrive in Thailand? Google seems to say no but I couldn't find a clear answer.
2. Is the maximum extension on the 30-day stay the 60-day Covid extension? Making the maximum stay 90 days? Any way to stay longer than 90 days, perhaps through multiple extensions?[/QUOTE]Oh boy! You won't be flying into Thailand unless you are heading to Phuket or another sandbox area for two weeks, once you get to the airport you will have to show your Thailand Pass to prove this. The visa waiver program is suspended right now and does not restart until February 1st. What's more there are testing requirements that it appears that you are unaware of and should have been checking on since you booked as the requirements keep changing.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655239]Exactly. This is not needed for Cancun or Mexico City, but is required for Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos. So what disinformation are you talking about? If you had actually been there then you would have known this instead of thinking you can google your way through the rest of your life.
That mold in the basement must be getting to you. Come out and live real life and go somewhere cool like the rest of us. Or maybe your kids are doing the right thing keeping you locked down there. You know grandpa is not allowed to come out for any fresh air. Just make sure his computer stays charged.[/QUOTE]The questionnaire is a vestige from last year, and has officially been abandoned. There is nobody to process any questionnaire.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2655170]Pretty sure not many people will go through the hassle of getting a Thailand Pass, purchasing asymptomatic COVID insurance, pay for a RT-PCR test before departure and again on arrival, be stuck in a SHA+ quarantine hotel for 1 night, only to leave a day or 3 later. But if you don't mind risking 10 days hospitalization there is nothing stopping you from leaving on day 3 or 4 if you tested negative. Keep in mind you will be there a minimum of 11 days if you test positive on arrival. You also may raise red flags for a sharp Immigration Officer too.
If you are really interested in doing this, ask on a Visa board like The Thaiger or AseanNow.[/QUOTE]Getting the Thailand pass was really easy. But the risk of testing positive on arrival or day 6 and being sent to a hospital is the crap part. Gave me too much anxiety in my first week of vacation. And combined with all the bars closing at 21, no agogos open, this trip was definitely the worst what I have experienced in Thailand in my 14 years of travelling. Not worth the stress if you have 2 weeks vacation. If I´d have 2 months trip then I would not give a shit if I get infected or not.
I will not make a new trip to Thailand until the mandatory PCR testing is over and / or the nightlife is more open.
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[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2655469]Getting the Thailand pass was really easy. But the risk of testing positive on arrival or day 6 and being sent to a hospital is the crap part. Gave me too much anxiety in my first week of vacation.
I will not make a new trip to Thailand until the mandatory PCR testing is over and / or the nightlife is more open.[/QUOTE]The juice is not worth the squeeze. There are too many countries that you can go to right now that do not have the hoops of "applying" for a pass beforehand, mandatory insurance, taking 10 million Covid tests, and quarantining. The most you have to do is flash a vaccine card or negative test. Why does Thailand complicate things so much?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655479] The most you have to do is flash a vaccine card or negative test. Why does Thailand complicate things so much?[/QUOTE]Could it possibly be because of all the assholes flying around with fake vax cards like you brag about doing?
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2655329]Oh boy! You won't be flying into Thailand unless you are heading to Phuket or another sandbox area for two weeks, once you get to the airport you will have to show your Thailand Pass to prove this. The visa waiver program is suspended right now and does not restart until February 1st. What's more there are testing requirements that it appears that you are unaware of and should have been checking on since you booked as the requirements keep changing.[/QUOTE]I have Thailand Pass and will be doing AQ. Not sure what the "testing requirements that keep changing" are that you speak of.
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[QUOTE=IGotBottle;2655529]I have Thailand Pass and will be doing AQ. Not sure what the "testing requirements that keep changing" are that you speak of.[/QUOTE]If you are doing AQ then you know what you are doing, your first question looked as if you had just bought a ticket. The testing requirements that I mentioned are all the PCR tests required. I did Test & Go where I needed a PCR test before departure and on arrival at a SHA+ hotel the first night. And when that restarts, you now have to return to a SHA+ hotel and get another PCR test on day 5. And then there are the recent antigen tests required to get into most establishments such as restaurants.
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9 cases of Omicron subvariant BA. 2.
Where did this subvariant come from? Never even knew one existed until today.
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What are some countries in south America that have similar overnight options like Thailand? I like overnight much better than short time. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655479]The juice is not worth the squeeze. There are too many countries that you can go to right now that do not have the hoops of "applying" for a pass beforehand, mandatory insurance, taking 10 million Covid tests, and quarantining. The most you have to do is flash a vaccine card or negative test. Why does Thailand complicate things so much?[/QUOTE]
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RT PCR Tests in Bangkok
Many international travellers need a RT PCR test before boarding a plane. This is particularly true if flying from BKK to Cambodia. I am curious to know if such tests are available in the lower Sukhumvit area or at the airport. Turn around time and cost info would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
SS.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2655509]Could it possibly be because of all the assholes flying around with fake vax cards like you brag about doing?[/QUOTE]Being vaccinated does not stop the spread so who's the asshole now. Looking at you Huacho.
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[URL]https://www.novotelairportbkk.com/offers/testandfly/[/URL]
Novotel has a test and fly package.
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[QUOTE=Povheadhunter;2655919]Being vaccinated does not stop the spread so who's the asshole now. Looking at you Huacho.[/QUOTE]Being vaccinated reduces your chances of getting infected and therefore providing a host body for the virus to mutate and produce variants that might someday override most or all vaccine protections when you then infect others by at least 5 times:
[URL]https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/08/cdc-unvaccinated-5-times-more-likely-get-covid-19[/URL]
This ongoing circular effect of infection, possible mutation into variants, transmission to others, wait and see studies of those new conditions that might or might not require new travel restrictions and quarantine rules and on and on and on is largely being fueled by the unvaccinated, either by choice or unfortunate circumstance of lack of access to the vaccines.
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The latest on Test and Go.
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Test And Fly.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2655967][URL]https://www.novotelairportbkk.com/offers/testandfly/[/URL]
Novotel has a test and fly package.[/QUOTE]Great info and one I'm inclined to book! And the graphic posted here is a very informative piece of info. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=332079&d=1643277825[/URL].
Thanks,
SS.
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Anybody take their girl to Penis Park?
[URL]https://nextshark.com/thailand-traitep-dream-forest/[/URL]
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I am traveling with a Thai lady outside Thailand, and will do Test and Go with her when I return. After we are released, I will go back to my condo, when I am not going to have much contact with anyone. My Thai lady friend will go back with her husband and live in party central.
On Day 5, I will test with her again. The question is what happens if she is positive and I am negative?
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2657024]I am traveling with a Thai lady outside Thailand, and will do Test and Go with her when I return. After we are released, I will go back to my condo, when I am not going to have much contact with anyone. My Thai lady friend will go back with her husband and live in party central.
On Day 5, I will test with her again. The question is what happens if she is positive and I am negative?[/QUOTE]On day 5 book 2 seperate hotel rooms, in 2 seperate hotels.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2657024]I am traveling with a Thai lady outside Thailand, and will do Test and Go with her when I return. After we are released, I will go back to my condo, when I am not going to have much contact with anyone. My Thai lady friend will go back with her husband and live in party central.
On Day 5, I will test with her again. The question is what happens if she is positive and I am negative?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2657131]On day 5 book 2 seperate hotel rooms, in 2 seperate hotels.[/QUOTE]I agree with MaxBkk, suggest you also buy separate hotel rooms for day 1. It won't hurt to buy your return flights using separate itineraries. Do whatever you can to make the paperwork appear as if you are traveling separately.
On a related note, it is my plan to wear N95 mask while in airports and other places when close to people. I'll continue that process for about the first 3-4 days. I doubt the day 5 PCR test will be positive after a day 4 exposure.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2657140]I agree with MaxBkk, suggest you also buy separate hotel rooms for day 1. It won't hurt to buy your return flights using separate itineraries. Do whatever you can to make the paperwork appear as if you are traveling separately.
On a related note, it is my plan to wear N95 mask while in airports and other places when close to people. I'll continue that process for about the first 3-4 days. I doubt the day 5 PCR test will be positive after a day 4 exposure.[/QUOTE]Actually, I thinking of sending her home alone to Thailand, and staying alone in Brazil for a while.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2657140]
On a related note, it is my plan to wear N95 mask while in airports and other places when close to people. I'll continue that process for about the first 3-4 days. I doubt the day 5 PCR test will be positive after a day 4 exposure.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I did when coming back on BKK a few weeks ago.
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2655903]Many international travellers need a RT PCR test before boarding a plane. This is particularly true if flying from BKK to Cambodia. I am curious to know if such tests are available in the lower Sukhumvit area or at the airport. Turn around time and cost info would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance..[/QUOTE]Near the Philippines Embassy in Sukhumvit soi 30 you have an option, 2900 THB, 24-36 hours.
Sukhumvit 21, the Japanese Pharmacy / clinic has the saliva one for 4000 THB, I think 48 hours.
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2655903]Many international travellers need a RT PCR test before boarding a plane. [/QUOTE]I've been reading stories of guys who have tested positive while getting a PCR test in order to board a plane home. They are then hospitalized for 10 days delaying their trip home. Not only that they are also being charged an overstay fee while they are in the hospital because they didn't go to Immigration to extend their Visa. Not sure how someone is supposed to get to Immigration if they are forced to go to the hospital.
New numbers out for Phuket Sandbox. 2% testing positive on arrival, 5% on day 5 PCR test. So out of 2800 arrivals per day 196 people will be hospitalized before 7 day Sandbox is completed. Thailand investigating a high proportion of tourists from Russia who are testing positive on arrival.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2658882]I've been reading stories of guys who have tested positive while getting a PCR test in order to board a plane home. They are then hospitalized for 10 days delaying their trip home. Not only that they are also being charged an overstay fee while they are in the hospital because they didn't go to Immigration to extend their Visa. Not sure how someone is supposed to get to Immigration if they are forced to go to the hospital.
New numbers out for Phuket Sandbox. 2% testing positive on arrival, 5% on day 5 PCR test. So out of 2800 arrivals per day 196 people will be hospitalized before 7 day Sandbox is completed. Thailand investigating a high proportion of tourists from Russia who are testing positive on arrival.[/QUOTE]Those are among my concerns. I've scheduled my stay to be slightly longer than 30 days and will get the E-Visa (seems quick, easy, and free); I expect that will extend my time to 60 days. As mentioned below, I'll be very careful at home before going to the airport and will wear N95 mask during travel. Assuming I pass my day-1 PCR test, I'll stay mostly isolated until about day 4, if I'm exposed to COVID after day 4 it is unlikely that my day-5 PCR test will show a problem.
My bigger concern is hotels in resort areas. Specifically 2 hotels in Samui and 1 in Hua Hin have their own requirements to demonstrate negative PCR test results within 72 hours of checking in at their hotels. I'm still looking for hotels in those areas without that requirement. Informal backchannel information with another poster confirms this concept, but indicates this is seldom done on Phuket. I may find myself spending more time on Phuket than ideal.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2658882]New numbers out for Phuket Sandbox. 2% testing positive on arrival, 5% on day 5 PCR test. So out of 2800 arrivals per day 196 people will be hospitalized before 7 day Sandbox is completed. Thailand investigating a high proportion of tourists from Russia who are testing positive on arrival.[/QUOTE]When I came back into Thailand through Phuket around Christmas / New Year Russians were the largest tourist group. They have a very relaxed view towards covid, masks were only worn when absolutely necessary and as soon as they hit Phuket Airport were in full on holiday / party mode.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2658961]
My bigger concern is hotels in resort areas. Specifically 2 hotels in Samui and 1 in Hua Hin have their own requirements to demonstrate negative PCR test results within 72 hours of checking in at their hotels. I'm still looking for hotels in those areas without that requirement. Informal backchannel information with another poster confirms this concept, but indicates this is seldom done on Phuket. I may find myself spending more time on Phuket than ideal.[/QUOTE]Phuket was relatively easy. I landed about 5 pm, Test at airport on arrival, at hotel by 7 pm. Had to stay in room until result which came 12 hours later at around 7 am. Forwarded the test email to hotel reception and was free from that point.
Test on day 5 was easy as well. Went to my predetermined testing location, got swabbed and result was back again in 12 hours.
My experience in Thailand is that paid for tests get given priority over say free tests administered by government. I have taken probably a dozen PCR tests in Thailand, all paid for and all back in 12 hours or less despite the standard disclaimer of 24 to 48 hours.
The good thing about Phuket is that you have to book the tests through another website. So hotels do not get involved.
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Moved from Bangkok Section
[QUOTE=MissionAsia;2659045]I'm finally back in Thailand for the next few months, luckily made a window where there's only 1-day quarantine, and flew to Samui for a little non-mongering style relaxation.
And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants.
I took 2 brands of quick tests, both returned negative results, but I was feeling so bad I went to a hospital, and tested positive.
The entire experience (besides what was probably one of the worst flus I've had) wasn't terrible. The hotel they quarantined me in had an ocean view, and the food wasn't bad.
Still. It shows that even being careful and vaccinated you can get infected.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your illness, hope you are now fully recovered.
This is good information for us. It's very easy to learn how to get into Thailand, but there is very little detailed information regarding what happens if you test positive. (1) Do you get a choice as to where you go after testing positive? (2) How long must you stay in quarantine if your symptoms are mild? (3) Do you still need to pay for your original hotel while you are in a quarantine hotel? (4) Did your mandatory insurance pay for everything (hotel? hospital? transportation? food?)?
This information has been hard for me to find. Thanks for any insight that you can provide.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2659090]Sorry for your illness, hope you are now fully recovered.
This is good information for us. It's very easy to learn how to get into Thailand, but there is very little detailed information regarding what happens if you test positive. (1) Do you get a choice as to where you go after testing positive? (2) How long must you stay in quarantine if your symptoms are mild? (3) Do you still need to pay for your original hotel while you are in a quarantine hotel? (4) Did your mandatory insurance pay for everything (hotel? hospital? transportation? food?)?
This information has been hard for me to find. Thanks for any insight that you can provide.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience as MissionAsia, except that I didn't have a room with such a good view and food for me was not as good.
1) You can choose the hospital / hospitel to admit to. After your admission is confirm, you can no longer choose.
2) I was made to stay in the hospitel for 10 days. I admitted around 11 pm on day 1. 1 hour after I admitted is already day 2. On day 10 you don't get to leave like right after midnight of day 9. Ask the hospital / hospitel for discharge timing. Some of my friends got quarantined for up to 14 days, so the quarantine period may differ according to hospitals. But health ministry's advice is a minimum of 10 days. More serious symptoms have to stay longer in hospital of course, at least till you are no longer in danger.
3) The day I move to the hospitel was the last day of my hotel booking. So this question is not applicable for me.
4) I got my insurance from a Thai insurer. You may want to enquire about their insurer hospital list and choose from there which one to admit into. They have a system link with the insurer and claims will be made by the hospital on your behalf. You probably need to pay a deposit to get admitted first, usually range 100 k-250 k baht. After you get discharged, they will show you the bill and say how much is claimable form insurer and how much is not. They will refund your deposit amount less the amounts which are not claimable. My non claimable portion was about 4200 baht. Total bill turned out to be somewhere around 87 k baht (claim 83 k from insurer).
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659131]I had the same experience as MissionAsia, except that I didn't have a room with such a good view and food for me was not as good.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that great information. Sorry you had the illness and hope all is well now.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659131] I was made to stay in the hospitel for 10 days.[/QUOTE]So after a positive test on Day 1 are there not any other tests done where if you negative a couple of times you can leave? Scary that you may get a false positive and no follow up tests are done.
[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659131]Some of my friends got quarantined for up to 14 days, so the quarantine period may differ according to hospitals.[/QUOTE]Which hospitals made your friends stay 14 days? This would be very helpful information so we know not to book hotels related to these hospitals.
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You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659477]You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.[/QUOTE]I think this article is saying that you cannot leave Thailand with more than 30 masks. They do not want you to export the masks from Thailand to other countries.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659477]You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.[/QUOTE]3 M N95 masks are not readily available in Thailand. The closest thing is the 3 M KF94 made in Korea which you can find at Watsons and Boots. The Chinese KN95 are everywhere but the quality is "variable" at best.
Just bring as many masks as you want. Thai customs are not going to see or care about how many masks you bring. They are only concerned with very illegal stuff or local Thai people exceeding their duty free allowance.
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So I'm sitting around yesterday talking to a few guys and one is an American heading home the following morning and I asked him where he got the covid test. He said he just walked into a clinic and they emailed him the results in a few hours. I said PCR test? He said 'No, antigen test. You only need an antigen test to fly into the USA'. Left it at that. Next morning it dawns on me that there are no direct flights back to the USA from Thailand, your flying on foreign carriers that might demand a PCR test to fly into their country (such as Japan, Korea etc). I wonder if he was able to board his flight this morning?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659353]So after a positive test on Day 1 are there not any other tests done where if you negative a couple of times you can leave? Scary that you may get a false positive and no follow up tests are done.
Which hospitals made your friends stay 14 days? This would be very helpful information so we know not to book hotels related to these hospitals.[/QUOTE]No other tests were done after day 1. I know I have it because I was feeling really bad with symptoms including a burning fever and bad chills. I was shivering with the slightest movement of air around me. Pretty much recovered after 3 days just by taking medication available from 7-11. Throughout the 10 days I experienced almost all the symptoms of the Omnicon variant as they said in the news and research papers, including a lower back pain which was very unique.
After I recovered and returned to my country, I was tested positive on PCR again. Yes you can still test positive after recovery, up to the next 90 days. So this confirmed that mine wasnt a false positive.
Those I had been in close contact or should I say bodily contact with up to 4 days before I got tested positive, were all tested positive too and sent to quarantine. They self reported to authorities after testing positive. Don't worry, the authorities won't ask who your close contacts were and round them all up for quarantine. Even if you had a partner staying in the same room with you, she still won't be hauled into quarantined if she tested negative.
I do hear many patients (with no symptoms) complaining about conspiracy theories of making these tests turn up positive in order to sell more hotel rooms to them in the form of hospitels. PCR tests have a very low rate of error. Chances are these patients are just in denial mode of having to waste time and pay for 10 days of quarantine when they don't feel unwell at all. I must add that I have tested negative all along in many ATK tests I took from the day I was detected to 4 weeks later. In thailand, if you got a positive on ATK it would still have to be confirmed with another PCR test before they classify you as a positive case.
No idea which hospitals my infected friends stayed at. They were all thai and all admitted into private hospitals. Their english wasnt good so they all misspelled the hospital names to me and I have no idea which hospitals are these.
If you are not sure how many days you'll be spending in the hospital or hospitel, do ask the staff before you admit. They will tell you. If you are not happy with it, look for another hospital to admit into.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659477]You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.[/QUOTE]I think this article is stating that you cannot leave Thailand with more than 30 masks. There is a ban on exporting the masks as they want to keep them available for their citizens.
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Not into LOS but out
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659477]You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.[/QUOTE]And this was old news from a year ago and no longer applies.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2659477]You are only allowed to bring 30 face masks with you in to Thailand. 50 if you have a medical note.
[URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/air-travellers-warned-not-to-bring-more-than-30-face-masks-on-board-overseas-flights/[/URL]
That means if I stay 60 days I have to use my N95 masks 2 days in a row. Pretty sure that isn't helping contamination in Thailand. Are they actually selling 3M N95 masks in Thailand now? Not interested in China KN95.[/QUOTE]First off, it's fake news.
Secondly, it's about taking masks out of Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2659514]You only need an antigen test to fly into the USA'. Left it at that. Next morning it dawns on me that there are no direct flights back to the USA from Thailand, your flying on foreign carriers that might demand a PCR test to fly into their country (such as Japan, Korea etc). I wonder if he was able to board his flight this morning?[/QUOTE]Yep. Depends on the country you are stopping through. It is best to call the airline and ask or some of them have the info on their apps and websites.
One of my chicks was flying from Chile to where she is from in Dominican Republic, stopping over in Panama. She went to the airport in Chile twice and was denied. With her going through Panama they wanted her to be vaccinated and have certain paperwork, which took her over 1 month to get.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2659514]So I'm sitting around yesterday talking to a few guys and one is an American heading home the following morning and I asked him where he got the covid test. He said he just walked into a clinic and they emailed him the results in a few hours. I said PCR test? He said 'No, antigen test. You only need an antigen test to fly into the USA'. Left it at that. Next morning it dawns on me that there are no direct flights back to the USA from Thailand, your flying on foreign carriers that might demand a PCR test to fly into their country (such as Japan, Korea etc). I wonder if he was able to board his flight this morning?[/QUOTE]There are places where you can enter with just a negative antigen test result. He could transit from there.
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Thanks guys. My bad. My speed reading and English as a 3rd/4th language doesn't help at times.
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Canuck Hood Checks Out of Phuket Sandbox
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10479521/Gangster-30-dead-outside-luxury-villa-Phuket.html[/URL]
Singh got at least 18 bullets into him.
Note to self: Do not become a gangster, flee to Phuket and make serious enemies.
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Testing
I've got a question about testing. I'll soon be in Thailand (Krabi's sandbox) and will have a PCR test on days 1 and 6. If clear, I plan to head to Pattaya, Bangkok and Chiang Mai.
My question is, when might I get tested throughout my trip? For example, do tourists get tested before taking domestic flights / trains? How about bars? I remember reading a while ago that customers were required to get tested before entering bars but I assume that's no longer the case? How about the entrances to Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy / large beer complexes in Pattaya?
Secondly, are rapid lateral flow tests easily available for tourists and if so, where from?
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659131]4) I got my insurance from a Thai insurer. You may want to enquire about their insurer hospital list and choose from there which one to admit into. They have a system link with the insurer and claims will be made by the hospital on your behalf. You probably need to pay a deposit to get admitted first, usually range 100 k-250 k baht. After you get discharged, they will show you the bill and say how much is claimable form insurer and how much is not. They will refund your deposit amount less the amounts which are not claimable. My non claimable portion was about 4200 baht. Total bill turned out to be somewhere around 87 k baht (claim 83 k from insurer).[/QUOTE]I'm wondering who your insurer was. And how to avoid making a 100000 to 250000 baht deposit.
Also how much did you end up paying for your hospital bill. Are you implying that you get back 83000 out of the 87000 baht bill from your insurer, so only pay 4000 baht for a 10 day hospital stay.
Did you get a 83000 baht cheque from your insurer.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2659774]I've got a question about testing. I'll soon be in Thailand (Krabi's sandbox) and will have a PCR test on days 1 and 6. If clear, I plan to head to Pattaya, Bangkok and Chiang Mai.
My question is, when might I get tested throughout my trip? For example, do tourists get tested before taking domestic flights / trains? How about bars? I remember reading a while ago that customers were required to get tested before entering bars but I assume that's no longer the case? How about the entrances to Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy / large beer complexes in Pattaya?
Secondly, are rapid lateral flow tests easily available for tourists and if so, where from?[/QUOTE]No testing is required to get on a domestic plane, however they sometimes ask to see your vaccination certificate or record.
Bars etc: To use Soi Cowboy as an example. About 3 weeks ago when more and more bars within the soi opened, there was no entry without taking a rapid Antigen test at both ends of the Soi. As this has an affect of reducing customer numbers by probably 90%, it was slowly done away with. Currently there is no testing or any other requirements to enter the soi or its bars.
This is the common pattern. They make a big point of opeing complexes with all sorts of testing and other ideas to demonstrate to the local public that they are doing everything to reduce covid transmission. Once the place is open for a couple of weeks all the testing seems to dissappear and it is business as usual until something brings more heat to the area.
You can buy Rapid Antigen Tests at pharmacies, supermarkets, 7 / 11 etc. There are no shortages at the moment due to supply issues. There seems to be a generic THB 75 version as well as more expensive versions which cost THB 200 or even THB 250. The general consesus is that the more expensive tests are of a higher quality.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2659781]I'm wondering who your insurer was. And how to avoid making a 100000 to 250000 baht deposit.
Also how much did you end up paying for your hospital bill. Are you implying that you get back 83000 out of the 87000 baht bill from your insurer, so only pay 4000 baht for a 10 day hospital stay.
Did you get a 83000 baht cheque from your insurer.[/QUOTE]The claim was made directly by the hospital as they are one of the insurer's preferred hospital. So I was reimbursed for the deposit amount minus the 4200 baht. The 83,000 baht was settled between the hospital and insurer. My insurer was Thai AXA.
You have an option to avoid paying for the deposit amount. But you may have to wait for days before getting admitted. This would depend on how long it takes for your insurer to produce a letter of guarantee to the hospital. I heard it takes at least 2 business days to do so, but often longer than that. Patients who pays the deposit will be prioritized for admission. Meanwhile you are not sure what will happen to you if you don't get admitted on the same day. You can't leave your existing hotel room either since you are covid positive and your quarantine period starts on admission day, not the day you are tested positive.
Hospitals in Thailand are reluctant to admit foreigners who do not have a Thai social security number, even if you are willing to pay upfront deposit. It took me 9 hours (by phone) just to find a hospital willing to admit me on the same day.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659900]Patients who pays the deposit will be prioritized for admission. Meanwhile you are not sure what will happen to you if you don't get admitted on the same day. You can't leave your existing hotel room either since you are covid positive and your quarantine period starts on admission day, not the day you are tested positive.[/QUOTE]What special treatment did you receive that you had to be in a hospital? Did you have to stay hooked up to machinery or anything? Wouldn't it had been cheaper to quarentine in a hospitel if you did not need something that only a hospital could offer?
[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659900]Hospitals in Thailand are reluctant to admit foreigners who do not have a Thai social security number, even if you are willing to pay upfront deposit. It took me 9 hours (by phone) just to find a hospital willing to admit me on the same day.[/QUOTE]That was not my experience when I hurt my foot. They actually got angry that I would not stay. But I live around the corner and told them I could just come back tomorrow at whatever time they told me. I had remembered my friends telling me that if you ever need to stay in a hospital be prepared to pay $500 per day. So I felt they were trying to juice me. There was nothing they would be doing to my foot all night that I would need to be there instead of at home.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2660036]What special treatment did you receive that you had to be in a hospital? Did you have to stay hooked up to machinery or anything? Wouldn't it had been cheaper to quarentine in a hospitel if you did not need something that only a hospital could offer?
That was not my experience when I hurt my foot. They actually got angry that I would not stay. But I live around the corner and told them I could just come back tomorrow at whatever time they told me. I had remembered my friends telling me that if you ever need to stay in a hospital be prepared to pay $500 per day. So I felt they were trying to juice me. There was nothing they would be doing to my foot all night that I would need to be there instead of at home.[/QUOTE]No special treatment. Its just quarantine and monitoring my condition. I was admitted into a hospital, not hospital. But everything was billed through the hospital. They have the hospital nurses stationed below the hospital 24/7 and hospital doctor to call your room and check your condition daily. Mild or no symptoms don't get to admit into the hospital.
When did you hurt your foot? During covid, hospital beds are pretty scarce. They have to save it for more serious cases. Ambulances will extremely busy even on emergency services. I waited another 3 hours for the ambulance to come and pick me up. Even that, I have to share the ambulance with other patients. My thoughts are that it used to be easy to admit into a hospital in Thailand. But because many white tourists choose not to pay their hospital bills after their stay, they are now reluctant to admit anyone who doesn't pay an upfront deposit first even with a valid insurance policy as some insurers find excuses not to pay too.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2659839]No testing is required to get on a domestic plane, however they sometimes ask to see your vaccination certificate or record.[/QUOTE]Thanks for such a thorough reply. Very useful.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2659900]your quarantine period starts on admission day, not the day you are tested positive.[/QUOTE]
That's 100% bullshit, although no doubt they try it on, there's a lot of money they stand to gain.
So, if you spend 9 days in a hotel after a positive test before being admitted, you have to spend 10 days in a hospital? No way that's the actual rule.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2660345]That's 100% bullshit, although no doubt they try it on, there's a lot of money they stand to gain.
So, if you spend 9 days in a hotel after a positive test before being admitted, you have to spend 10 days in a hospital? No way that's the actual rule.[/QUOTE]This is thailand. It doesn't always have to make sense. Among those I knew:
1 waited 4 days to admit into hospital. So its 10 + 4.
Another one admitted 1 day after, stayed in hospital for 14 days and still have to stay at home for another 7 days. 1 + 14 + 7.
They're both Thai So the policy has nothing against foreigners.
Yes different hospitals apply different number of days. The govt's guideline is "a minimum of 10 days".
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2660422]This is thailand. It doesn't always have to make sense. Among those I knew:
1 waited 4 days to admit into hospital. So its 10 + 4.
Another one admitted 1 day after, stayed in hospital for 14 days and still have to stay at home for another 7 days. 1 + 14 + 7.
They're both Thai So the policy has nothing against foreigners.
Yes different hospitals apply different number of days. The govt's guideline is "a minimum of 10 days".[/QUOTE]Simple question is why? Why did you report it? Why not buy a bunch of self tests and self isolate? Were you symptoms that bad? And how much did you have to pay for your other accommodations? Were you able to cancel them? Imagine a guy paying $700 for an expensive non refundable airbnb and then finding out he's positive, what would he do in this case? My guess is not report it and self isolate.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2660517]Simple question is why? Why did you report it? Why not buy a bunch of self tests and self isolate? Were you symptoms that bad? And how much did you have to pay for your other accommodations? Were you able to cancel them? Imagine a guy paying $700 for an expensive non refundable airbnb and then finding out he's positive, what would he do in this case? My guess is not report it and self isolate.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I confused the understanding by moving this conversation to this thread. MissionAsia previously reported that he tested negative with ATG but felt very bad so went to hospital, where he tested positive with RT-PCR. LookingLooking reported that he had same experience and that he never tested positive with ATG tests.
When you are in anywhere in the world and have repeated negative ATG tests, the reasonable thing to do is seek medical attention.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2660630]When you are in anywhere in the world and have repeated negative ATG tests, the reasonable thing to do is seek medical attention.[/QUOTE]Well that's a judgement call on that is how do I feel? Everyone has different reactions I'm sure, mine were just some extra coughing and fatigue (if that was indeed covid). A positive test told me I had it but afterwards I was informed I should have taken several tests to confirm the positive result on the first test. And that's what I was asking? How severe the symptoms are and when he decided to go to the hospital? Guy is lucky his insurance paid, he must have had symptoms vs being asymptomatic.
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COVID extensions
I must say in all of my research I never heard about this, assumed the visa setup was the same as its always been. Don't know how I missed it, guess I was thinking it was an over and done deal when COVID hit way back when. Maybe I was focused on finishing work and downsizing during the last year and a half. Anyway I went ahead and applied for a 60 day visa and expected to only be able to extend 30 days and then move onto Cambodia with a possible return to Thailand. It was when I contacted a visa agent about registering my residency at my airbnb that they said 'we can do a 30 day or a 60 day' and that threw me for a loop. I remember asking them over and over how can 60 days? Thinking it was some sort of error. I'd explain I was already on a 60 day and wanted another 30 and got the same response. I reached out to MonkeyPaw and he explained the setup and how they've been extending this special 60 day visa over and over again. So I chatted once again with the visa agent and explained again when my visa ended and got the same response "yes we can renew your visa for another 60 days". Landed here in early December and its now looking like I won't have to leave until early June. I am hoping they do another COVID extension, I've heard mixed reports but with Omicron pushing cases over 10 k the last few days my luck just might last another round.
I know, these extensions are most likely old news but if it helps a few people here already in Thailand know they can easily extend then its worth a repeat.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2660517]Simple question is why? Why did you report it? Why not buy a bunch of self tests and self isolate? Were you symptoms that bad? And how much did you have to pay for your other accommodations? Were you able to cancel them? Imagine a guy paying $700 for an expensive non refundable airbnb and then finding out he's positive, what would he do in this case? My guess is not report it and self isolate.[/QUOTE]The test centre has reported it.
It was not detected via self test. I needed to be tested to get clearance to return to my country.
Symptoms were bad but not life threatening.
If it was self test, I wouldn't report it either. Heck I wouldn't even do a self test.
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2660801]The test centre has reported it.
It was not detected via self test. I needed to be tested to get clearance to return to my country.
Symptoms were bad but not life threatening.
If it was self test, I wouldn't report it either. Heck I wouldn't even do a self test.[/QUOTE]Obviously this only works for people in certain places. Particularly continental Europe / Schengen, but avoiding PCR tests / hospitalization / missed flights in Asia is reason enough in my opinion to fly back to a neighboring country that doesn't require pre-departure PCR and then reach your home country overland, if the combination of countries enables you to do it.
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Anyone recovered from covid and travelled to Thailand before?
Has anyone recovered from covid within 90 days, travelled to Thailand and got tested positive before?
What happens in this case? Do you still have to go through minimum of 10 days quarantine?
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This made me laugh
One of the Thailand Pass online help pages includes the following text: "What is highly advised to travelers is to choose insurance companies or hotels in Thailand that produce a 1-page document as a receipt or proof of purchase and confirmed booking." Apparently they want us to research the format of confirmation receipts before we buy. Same issue is present for your airline booking. 555 TIT. Actually, the Thailand Pass webpage allows submitting limited supplemental documentation in *. Pdf format, but not in the locations where the required confirmations are uploaded.
The Thai E-Visa webpage also has some quirks, one of which is submitting your picture in a very specific form. My pictures were rejected multiple times because their automated system thought there were more than one person in the picture (it was just me). It took me an hour to figure out exactly how to crop my picture to make their software happy.
I recommend doing both the Thailand Pass and the Thailand E-Visa applications using a computer with a decent monitor. Using a smartphone or tablet would be a pain in the neck. After you have all the required documentation gathered, allow yourself an hour to complete the Thailand Pass application and a couple of hours to complete the Thailand E-Visa application. It's a bit more complex than it was in early December.
[URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2661747]I recommend doing both the Thailand Pass and the Thailand E-Visa applications using a computer with a decent monitor. Using a smartphone or tablet would be a pain in the neck. After you have all the required documentation gathered, allow yourself an hour to complete the Thailand Pass application and a couple of hours to complete the Thailand E-Visa application. It's a bit more complex than it was in early December.
[URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thaievisa.go.th/[/URL][/QUOTE]The Thai Government loves to make paperwork as complicated as possible. If you live here and have to do any official business / government paperwork it is mind numbing!
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[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2661617]Has anyone recovered from covid within 90 days, travelled to Thailand and got tested positive before?
What happens in this case? Do you still have to go through minimum of 10 days quarantine?[/QUOTE]It didn't happen to me, I've been here without leaving Thailand throughout the entire Covid era so far.
But a very good friend from Belgium who owns a condo in Bangkok and his pattern was to spend half the year in Thailand returned to Thailand about 6-7 months ago. He tested negative on arrival then did his 14 days in a quaratine hotel. He continued to test negative for the next 14 days.
On his 15th day, ready to be released from quarantine, his test came up positive and he was immediately taken to a hospital for a 10 day stay.
How could that be? And he felt fine, no symptoms at all.
It took him 2-3 days at that hospital to convince them to either look closer or perform another test to make sure they weren't just detecting traces of Covid antibodies he'd acquired from a case of Covid he'd fully recovered from in Belgium months before returning to Thailand.
They did. That's what it was. They released him.
This was 6-7 months ago so by now the tests might be better at detecting the difference, the quarantine times have changed, maybe not the same chance of that happening.
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Thai Friendly spammers?
Something odd has happened several times with 4 different Thai Friendly girls. Do the chat on LINE, get a photo or two and then they no show. Had one say she got in taxi but that was 45 minutes late, then 20 minutes later taxi had low tire pressure and she would be later than usual. Some just don't show at all, no chat nothing. Had one this afternoon say the location I gave her brought her to a place 3 km's from where I gave her my location and condo name. She then sent me a photo of her on her way but with google maps streetview you can grab 'photos' from anywhere in the world and say you are there. So I'm waiting and then she says she's 5 km's further past my condo. Now if anyone knows LINE locations you can easily change your location by moving the dot. Its not a huge deal when your living here but if your on a 2 week vacation that time wasted is a big deal. Have to wonder if someone is creating fake accounts on TF along with fake LINE accounts just to scam people. Even had one 'girl' ask me for money so she could come to Pattaya. Maybe video chats are the only way to weed out the scammers?
Now if you don't know LINE has private chat groups (up to 500 people) and they promote bars, general conversations. I think anyone can create a group and invite people to it. I did hear a story that there are LINE chat groups with the working girls who share info on clients, bad clients etc. And these no shows makes me wonder if this is true and somewhere in time I pissed off a girl and now my profile is on said chat. Its possible. Luckily there are thousands more here who aren't in those chat groups if they do exist.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2662623]Something odd has happened several times with 4 different Thai Friendly girls. Do the chat on LINE, get a photo or two and then they no show. Had one say she got in taxi but that was 45 minutes late, then 20 minutes later taxi had low tire pressure and she would be later than usual. Some just don't show at all, no chat nothing. Had one this afternoon say the location I gave her brought her to a place 3 km's from where I gave her my location and condo name. She then sent me a photo of her on her way but with google maps streetview you can grab 'photos' from anywhere in the world and say you are there. So I'm waiting and then she says she's 5 km's further past my condo. Now if anyone knows LINE locations you can easily change your location by moving the dot. Its not a huge deal when your living here but if your on a 2 week vacation that time wasted is a big deal. Have to wonder if someone is creating fake accounts on TF along with fake LINE accounts just to scam people. Even had one 'girl' ask me for money so she could come to Pattaya. Maybe video chats are the only way to weed out the scammers?
Now if you don't know LINE has private chat groups (up to 500 people) and they promote bars, general conversations. I think anyone can create a group and invite people to it. I did hear a story that there are LINE chat groups with the working girls who share info on clients, bad clients etc. And these no shows makes me wonder if this is true and somewhere in time I pissed off a girl and now my profile is on said chat. Its possible. Luckily there are thousands more here who aren't in those chat groups if they do exist.[/QUOTE]I have encountered ditzy girls like that on TF for years. Maybe a little more during the Covid era because many profiles say they live in Bangkok and they haven't been in Bangkok since March 2020. Probably the same with Pattaya.
I think out of boredom in their boring outer provinces they are curious to see how many guys they can get to say "Good morning" and "Good night" to them every day, how many they can convince to transfer money to them for travel to your area which they'll never do. The latter is a whole new industry for hookers who had to move from bars and streets to the phone over the past couple of years. Those 200-300 baht transfers add up to a decent income for them if they can scam 2-3 each day.
Even when they aren't really outright scamming you for money, many Thai girls live to waste your time, ruin your night or weekend. Nothing short of winning the lottery makes them happier.
Haven't you arrived on time at a designated meeting place and had them tell you they are almost there, running just a little bit late, please wait blah blah only to find out 30 minutes later they just stepped out of the shower?
The last thing a Thai girl wants to happen is for her to arrive first and have to waste 10 minutes of her valuable time waiting for you. Since your time is utterly worthless, it is much better for her to make sure you are actually standing at the meeting place before she opens her closet to decide what to wear.
Then she is wide open for all kinds of interruptions and alternate plans from her girlfriends, other guys, family, whatever. Whether or not she informs you about it isn't important.
So I can't say what is happening to you is some kind of fake account scam. It just sounds like normal Thai dating site behavior to me.
Yes, insisting on a video chat first avoids many issues. But not all. Designating your apartment or a place very nearby is also a plus. Now I tell them I have arriced, to Line me when they arrive and I know I can get there in less than 10 minutes, tell them I was in the toilet. Meanwhile, I go about my business, do other things and I am only willing to allow 30-45 minutes late "due to traffic" before I agree to meet someone else and do something else.
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Thai Time
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2663009]Haven't you arrived on time at a designated meeting place and had them tell you they are almost there, running just a little bit late, please wait blah blah only to find out 30 minutes later they just stepped out of the shower?
The last thing a Thai girl wants to happen is for her to arrive first and have to waste 10 minutes of her valuable time waiting for you. Since your time is utterly worthless, it is much better for her to make sure you are actually standing at the meeting place before she opens her closet to decide what to wear.
Then she is wide open for all kinds of interruptions and alternate plans from her girlfriends, other guys, family, whatever. Whether or not she informs you about it isn't important.
So I can't say what is happening to you is some kind of fake account scam. It just sounds like normal Thai dating site behavior to me.[/QUOTE]This is part of Thai culture, not just P4P industry. Many farang with Thai wives have similar complaints. Thai wives tell husbands they need to be more flexible. That attitude ended a 2-year live-in relationship I had with a Thai-USA citizen. Even Thai business meetings in professional environments are frequently 15-30 minutes late. Many Thais live for right now. Don't try to fight it.
I did actually have a Nana Butterflies girl run to me in March 2020, tourists were starting to be fewer and fewer and she knew it. We had plans to meet for 3rd time and she was late. My line messages said I was leaving and she said she was running. Off in the distance I could see she was running. She was a sweaty mess, first order of business was shower and hair washing.
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My favorite freebie girl has absolutely no concept of being on time. It got to the point that I went to WS or LK instead of waiting around for her. I would update her whenever I switched gogo bars so she could find me. When she showed up you could tell she went to get her hair and nails done. She's been up to 2. 5 hours late but I guess I get what I pay for.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2663097]This is part of Thai culture, not just P4P industry. Many farang with Thai wives have similar complaints. Thai wives tell husbands they need to be more flexible. That attitude ended a 2-year live-in relationship I had with a Thai-USA citizen. Even Thai business meetings in professional environments are frequently 15-30 minutes late. Many Thais live for right now. Don't try to fight it.
I did actually have a Nana Butterflies girl run to me in March 2020, tourists were starting to be fewer and fewer and she knew it. We had plans to meet for 3rd time and she was late. My line messages said I was leaving and she said she was running. Off in the distance I could see she was running. She was a sweaty mess, first order of business was shower and hair washing.[/QUOTE]This summer, when everything was closed, I was having ladies come over to my condo. There were virtually no other customers, and I was amazed that the ladies were not only always on time, they would come early.
Then, some places opened in September, and the ladies started coming later, or canceling altogether.
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For guys planning a return
Something to consider, hotels have been closed for a good long time. Same goes for condos that are devoid of tenants because they are stuck waiting for the country to re-open. And what is that one thing you should realize before making the trip back over here before things 'settle down'? Why its the cockroaches. Hotels that couldn't stay open sure didn't keep spraying to keep the pests away. Thousands upon thousands of vacant rooms letting these little devils run loose for the last two years, it will take some time before their numbers drop. I've been in an SHA hotel and spotted them in my room, been in two condos and once again spotted them here and there. Just the other night I had to pee, turned on the light and I start to pee into the toilet and I thought to myself "man I sure don't remember taking a crap and not flushing" and then the 2 inch cockroach started to swim his way to safety. Ten flushes later I was sure he wasn't coming back up.
Now on a slightly different subject. I changed condo's and I go to cook some food and all the steam is rising and I pull out the exhaust fan. Fan kicks on but its not clearing up the steam. So I open the cabinet to see what the deal was and realize they never hooked up the tube to vent the fan, it was just blowing into the upper cabinet.
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Buddy just applied for the Thai Pass
It took my buddy over a week to get all of the documents ready for the Thai Pass. He tried buying the insurance from Thai insurance companies but they never charged his credit card. He finally used a link I found that compares travel insurance packages and got a fast purchase and the documents. Then he booked his 2 SHA hotels at the Landmark hotel in Bangkok and they too took their time confirming his reservation. Finally all of the documents needed to apply for the Thai Pass was in his possession. He uploaded all of them to the Thai Pass website, hit send and just over 2 hours later was approved. What does that tell you? Tells me there are very few people applying for this 2 day testing crap. There will be no big flows of tourists coming in March. It will be a trickle.
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March 1, Test and Go Update: 1 hotel night stay only now
From March 1 it looks like the Test and Go entry program will involve being PCR tested on arrival, staying at an approved hotel on your first night and once your test results come back negative you are free to go.
There is some mention that the current 2nd hotel stay and test on 5 will be replaced by a normal Antigen test that does not require a hotel stay. The exact details of the second test are a little murky at this stage.
The official notice will become law and the 2nd test clarified when it is published in the royal gazette in the next few days.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2666754]From March 1 it looks like the Test and Go entry program will involve being PCR tested on arrival, staying at an approved hotel on your first night and once your test results come back negative you are free to go.
There is some mention that the current 2nd hotel stay and test on 5 will be replaced by a normal Antigen test that does not require a hotel stay. The exact details of the second test are a little murky at this stage.
The official notice will become law and the 2nd test clarified when it is published in the royal gazette in the next few days.[/QUOTE]Yes the 2nd test quarantine is not required from 1 March. 5th day a self atk test and upload result via app.
No don't ask me if you can just take a negative result photo and upload it. Up to your own imagination.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2665228]I changed condo's and I go to cook some food and all the steam is rising and I pull out the exhaust fan. Fan kicks on but its not clearing up the steam. So I open the cabinet to see what the deal was and realize they never hooked up the tube to vent the fan, it was just blowing into the upper cabinet.[/QUOTE]Is there a tube? That sounds like is a ductless range hood which is pretty common these days. My house was built in 2002 and there is no duct for it to vent to outside.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2666631]Then he booked his 2 SHA hotels at the Landmark hotel in Bangkok and they too took their time confirming his reservation. Finally all of the documents needed to apply for the Thai Pass was in his possession. He uploaded all of them to the Thai Pass website, hit send and just over 2 hours later was approved. What does that tell you? Tells me there are very few people applying for this 2 day testing crap. There will be no big flows of tourists coming in March. It will be a trickle.[/QUOTE]I had same problems with slow confirmation from hotels. Brief telephone calls prompted them to send proper confirmations quickly.
I applied for Thailand Pass and EVisa about 2 weeks ago. It took 3-4 days to get Thailand Pass and 5-6 days to get EVisa. Back channel contact with another board member indicates he had similar response time. Don't rely on 2 hour response.
I also expect a trickle of tourists in March, but my reasoning is hotter weather and increasing COVID. Still, some resorts are doing well, the premium villas at my favored resort are fully booked through March 22. I suspect there are plenty of standard rooms available.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2666814]Is there a tube? That sounds like is a ductless range hood which is pretty common these days. My house was built in 2002 and there is no duct for it to vent to outside.[/QUOTE]No tube, just air being blown directly into the cabinet. Maybe its meant to filter the air like you are implying but half of the steam from the stove gets diverted to either side.
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Test and Go details (411)
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2666754]From March 1 it looks like the Test and Go entry program will involve being PCR tested on arrival, staying at an approved hotel on your first night and once your test results come back negative you are free to go.
There is some mention that the current 2nd hotel stay and test on 5 will be replaced by a normal Antigen test that does not require a hotel stay. The exact details of the second test are a little murky at this stage.
The official notice will become law and the 2nd test clarified when it is published in the royal gazette in the next few days.[/QUOTE]Has anyone on the Board experienced this? From what I read, one has to go from the airport directly to the approved government hotel. Does that mean that an official car takes you to the hotel directly from the airport?
Where is the PCR sample taken (I assume they do a nasal swab)? At the airport, or at the hotel?
How long does it take for the result to come back? I will be in Thailand in 2 months, so I do not need to know about day #5 (if I am lucky, the entire program will be dropped by then). Thanks.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2667812]I will be in Thailand in 2 months, so I do not need to know about day #5 (if I am lucky, the entire program will be dropped by then). Thanks.[/QUOTE]2 months? Who knows what it will be then. Looks like you are already behind on times. Day 5 has been canceled and you do it yourself starting and insurance down to $20,000 March 1.
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Test and Go
Thank you Mr Enternational. I know that things might be different in two months, but I need to buy plane tickets now. So I will repeat my question. And please, if you don't know the answer and have not been to Thailand recently, please do nor answer.
Has anyone on the Board experienced this? From what I read, one has to go from the airport directly to the approved government hotel. Does that mean that an official car takes you to the hotel directly from the airport?
Where is the PCR sample taken (I assume they do a nasal swab)? At the airport, or at the hotel?
How long does it take for the result to come back?
Many thanks!
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Whole process airplane to quarantine room
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2668084]Has anyone on the Board experienced this? From what I read, one has to go from the airport directly to the approved government hotel. Does that mean that an official car takes you to the hotel directly from the airport?
Where is the PCR sample taken (I assume they do a nasal swab)? At the airport, or at the hotel?
How long does it take for the result to come back?
Many thanks![/QUOTE]As of February 26, this is the process for entry at BKK. Have all documents ready to show to multiple people.
During walk from gate to immigration, you will be stopped at least twice to check your paperwork. Passport. Thai Pass. Entry card/departure (which you fill out and sign on your airplane). Vaccination certification. Your completed health card, which basically says you will be quarantined if found sick (also completed on your airplane). If the papers you completed on the airplane were not fully completed, these people will assist you. RT-PCR test report from your home country. Hotel/transportation/RTPCR purchase documentation. Of all the documents you gathered, these people check every one except proof of insurance, for me that was only checked when applying tor Thailand pass and upon checking in to my first flight leaving my home country.
You will get final immigration check as normal, but these people have more papers than during pre-COVID days. These are the only people who will look at your E-visa.
Get your luggage, as normal.
Now is a good time to use one of the ATMs or cash exchange place in the luggage claim area. DTAC also has a place that sells SIM cards. Unlimited 30-day service for about 300 baht or unlimited 90 day service for about 900 baht are 2 of the choices. They will install and test for you. This will be your only time to see money exchange or SIM cards prior to entry into quarantine.
Walk through customs area and go to exit door 10. There will be hotel representatives there to help you find your proper transportation to hotel. Your hotel representative will need some of the papers discussed above and she will put you on your prearranged hotel shuttle. The transportation is a specially equipped van with plexiglass separating driver from passenger.
Once at my hotel I registered as normal but was sent directly to a RT-PCR test swab area. After that is finished I went to my secure floor where quarantine starts.
RT-PCR preliminary results were provided to me in about 10 hours and final results in 24 hours. Cannot leave room until receive negative report.
The airport process has many more paperwork steps than before, but there are enough qualified people to guide you without delay and they are happy to do it. Just be sure you have your paperwork hard copies readily available for the walk from airplane to hotel transportation. As described above, my entire journey from gate to my room took about 2 hours.
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Are bars still requiring you to take an ATK test, or show results?
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Testing process on day 1
[B]Answer to your question:[/B]
No, you are not taken directly to the hotel. You're taken directly to the hospital administering the covid test (nasal swab). It's a drive through test site and I stayed in my car the whole time. The hospital has a copy of your passport and you show yours to match their records. After taking the test (around 1:30 AM), I was dropped off at the hotel. During my transfer ride, the driver coughed a couple times which made me uncomfortable and paranoid haha. Front desk receptionist told me I should receive my results by 12 PM. At around 8 AM I called the front desk in hopes that the results came in early. They said no, and it should come in by 12 PM. At around 10:30 AM, I got a phone call with my negative result. I confirmed I can go out now and enjoy my time.
[B]Other details:[/B]
I was scheduled to arrive at the airport on Feb 25 12 AM. Flight was a bit early and arrived around 11:40 PM Feb 24. On all the forms, I wrote that I arrived on Feb 25. Nobody gave me any problems with this.
When you book your hotel quarantine package, you have to call the hotel to confirm that you are indeed purchasing the Test & Go day 1 package. After I booked mine (Galleria 12 in BKK), you will receive instructions on transfer from the airport. Basically, when you exit to the general arrival area where taxi stands used to be, you'll see a bunch of stands coordinating the transfers to various hotels.
[B]Suggestions:[/B]
As Mr E mentioned, quarantine restrictions are changing constantly and will undoubtedly change before May rolls around. Best advice would be to delay the booking and application for Thailand Pass as long as possible.
[B]Interesting observations:[/B]
My hotel has a quarantine section attached next to it. I think it used to be the hotel gym or something, but repurposed as a quarantine facility. I asked the front desk and they said people who want to isolate but have mild symptoms are advised by their doctors to isolate in such facilities. So I think it's for people who may have the option of isolating at home, but are afraid of infecting others in the house. Or it could be a way of getting the government to pay for your stay for a few days. I asked if tourists are also put in there and he said no.
So what if tourists are diagnosed positive? He told me that the person should contact the insurance company to see which hospital he needs to be taken to that the insurance company would cover. It's the first time I was told about this so I found it interesting. Once you find out which hospital is covered, the ambulance should take you to the hospital.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2668084]Thank you Mr Enternational. I know that things might be different in two months, but I need to buy plane tickets now. So I will repeat my question. And please, if you don't know the answer and have not been to Thailand recently, please do nor answer.
Has anyone on the Board experienced this? From what I read, one has to go from the airport directly to the approved government hotel. Does that mean that an official car takes you to the hotel directly from the airport?
Where is the PCR sample taken (I assume they do a nasal swab)? At the airport, or at the hotel?
How long does it take for the result to come back?
Many thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2668170]Are bars still requiring you to take an ATK test, or show results?[/QUOTE]In Bangkok no bars or entrances to Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza require any testing. I think in Pattaya some may still require testing or proof of a recent test but I can't answer definitively.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2668251]In Bangkok no bars or entrances to Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza require any testing. I think in Pattaya some may still require testing or proof of a recent test but I can't answer definitively.[/QUOTE]None of the gogo bars are requiring tests. But The Cassette Sky Bar in BKK required an ATK test (150 B) to go in.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2668204][B]Answer to your question:[/B]
No, you are not taken directly to the hotel. You're taken directly to the hospital administering the covid test (nasal swab). It's a drive through test site and I stayed in my car the whole time. The hospital has a copy of your passport and you show yours to match their records. After taking the test (around 1:30 AM), I was dropped off at the hotel. During my transfer ride, the driver coughed a couple times which made me uncomfortable and paranoid haha. Front desk receptionist told me I should receive my results by 12 PM. At around 8 AM I called the front desk in hopes that the results came in early. They said no, and it should come in by 12 PM. At around 10:30 AM, I got a phone call with my negative result. I confirmed I can go out now and enjoy my time.
[B]Other details:[/B]
I was scheduled to arrive at the airport on Feb 25 12 AM. Flight was a bit early and arrived around 11:40 PM Feb 24. On all the forms, I wrote that I arrived on Feb 25. Nobody gave me any problems with this..[/QUOTE]It sounds like I should quarantine in the USA prior to boarding my plane as the incubation period of SARS-CoV-2 is a minimum of 3 days. Even if I get exposed at JFK or on the plane, my PCR will be negative!
Not going to happen but that sounds like what I should do.
Many thanks for providing these details. I will hold off on the plane reservation. It makes me think that maybe I should skip BKK and just be satisfied with Manila (the next step of my trip) where the girls are super easy and the testing rules are simpler.
By the way, once you cleared your PCR test, could you bring a girl back to your room? Or did you have to change hotels?
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2669934]Sam chose the place because he recognised a pretty girl he'd seen at Olny LK Bar the night before. He bought her a drink but when he asked about the bar-fine she told him 'I not boom-boom'.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have always said to use drinks as a reward, not a preward. Most guys think they have to walk in and immediately buy a drink for a chick. No. A chick has to show me she is worthy of me buying her drink besides the fact that she is there working.
Joke with her for a few minutes, ask about barfine, touch on her if you want, THEN buy the drink if you are getting good vibes or if she is entertaining. Don't just go throwing a 140 baht drink on every chick that you think looks good. After buying tons of drinks you may get a surprise such as Sam did. He could have walked in and said I like you; how much is barfine and would have known from the jump that she does not boom boom.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;2669934]Interestingly Sam had been working on a girl from this bar for a while, buying her ladydrinks, and when he asked about meeting her on her day off, she agreed. But next day she sent him a Line message saying she couldn't meet as her Dad died. [/quote] All I can do is fucking laugh. Sounds like you guys are the kings of buying ladydrinks, but the jesters of getting laid in a hooker den.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2669934]We went to at Lai and again my favourite girl was with a Korean customer. I enjoy the thrill of the chase and I'm determined to buy this girl at least one lady-drink.[/quote]What chase? Are you guys not realizing these chicks are hookers or what a hooker is? They fuck for money. No need to coax them or kiss up to them with drinks. Determined to buy a girl a bunch of drinks before you pay her to fuck sounds weird. Why not just be determined to pay her to fuck from the start? You guys have this mongering thing totally mixed up.
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Budget
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2670078]LOL. I have always said to use drinks as a reward, not a preward. Most guys think they have to walk in and immediately buy a drink for a chick. No. A chick has to show me she is worthy of me buying her drink besides the fact that she is there working.
Joke with her for a few minutes, ask about barfine, touch on her if you want, THEN buy the drink if you are getting good vibes or if she is entertaining. Don't just go throwing a 140 baht drink on every chick that you think looks good. After buying tons of drinks you may get a surprise such as Sam did. He could have walked in and said I like you; how much is barfine and would have known from the jump that she does not boom boom.
All I can do is fucking laugh. Sounds like you guys are the kings of buying ladydrinks, but the jesters of getting laid in a hooker den.
What chase? Are you guys not realizing these chicks are hookers or what a hooker is? They fuck for money. No need to coax them or kiss up to them with drinks. Determined to buy a girl a bunch of drinks before you pay her to fuck sounds weird. Why not just be determined to pay her to fuck from the start? You guys have this mongering thing totally mixed up.[/QUOTE]Not everyone is on a strict budget like it's sounds like you are bud, plus his reports are excellent boots on ground reports very helpful, on like others, if he buys 50 drinks on his amazing trip he's having, its 200 dollars and it's his 200, the day I have to worry about 200 $ is the day I stop traveling, but that won't be happening anytime soon! Hope this helps you see he's just having fun his way, and sounds like not worrying about a few bucks! With many good reports on where to stay, drink, (and not to drink) eat, and so on!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2670078]What chase? Are you guys not realizing these chicks are hookers or what a hooker is? They fuck for money. No need to coax them or kiss up to them with drinks. Determined to buy a girl a bunch of drinks before you pay her to fuck sounds weird. Why not just be determined to pay her to fuck from the start? You guys have this mongering thing totally mixed up.[/QUOTE]I think we've established before that our outlook on mongering is totally different. You sound a very frugal gent who views the process as a business transaction. I'm on holiday and want to enjoy myself as well as going with lots of girls. It never ceases to amaze me on this forum there is always someone like you who thinks one rule fits all. There only one was doing things correctly (your way, naturally) and only one 'correct' price to pay.
I actually think some of your comments are naive. If I approached the girl from at Lai with your clumsy suggestion, she'd ignore me. She's too pretty and too popular. I'm getting vibes that you aim for girls a few rungs down the ladder, so it might work for you but it wouldn't for every girl, especially the popular ones.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670201]I think we've established before that our outlook on mongering is totally different. You sound a very frugal gent who views the process as a business transaction. I'm on holiday and want to enjoy myself as well as going with lots of girls. It never ceases to amaze me on this forum there is always someone like you who thinks one rule fits all. There only one was doing things correctly (your way, naturally) and only one 'correct' price to pay.
I actually think some of your comments are naive. If I approached the girl from at Lai with your clumsy suggestion, she'd ignore me. She's too pretty and too popular. I'm getting vibes that you aim for girls a few rungs down the ladder, so it might work for you but it wouldn't for every girl, especially the popular ones.[/QUOTE]Good clean rebuttal.
Me E views just unconventional. We want fun at reasonable prices. We don't want bottom dwelling girls, no offense to them.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2670110]Not everyone is on a strict budget like it's sounds like you are bud, plus his reports are excellent boots on ground reports very helpful, on like others, if he buys 50 drinks on his amazing trip he's having, its 200 dollars and it's his 200, the day I have to worry about 200 $ is the day I stop traveling, but that won't be happening anytime soon![/QUOTE]It is not about a budget. It is about someone not realizing they are dealing with hookers. You do not have to butter them up or win them over by buying drinks as he is reportedly attempting and failing to do. You merely have to ask them how much to come fuck. The shit is elementary.
But if he thinks he is going to win some type of prize or it makes him feel all fuzzy inside buying drinks then enjoy the pleasure. But it has zero to do with whether you will be able to fuck the girl as it seems he is attributing it to.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670201]If I approached the girl from at Lai with your clumsy suggestion, she'd ignore me. She's too pretty and too popular.[/QUOTE]Newsflash! She is a HOOKER. She is there to fuck for money!
Buying a bunch of lady drinks and not being able to fuck a hooker is pretty much worse than not buying lady drinks and being ignored. Either way you leave with a hard, dry dick, but one way you leave with dignity and the money you started with.
Spent all that money on a hooker and still did not fuck. You can buy drinks for random broads and not fuck back home. What is mongering coming to?
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670201]It never ceases to amaze me on this forum there is always someone who thinks one rule fits all. If I approached the girl from at Lai with your clumsy suggestion, she'd ignore me. She's too pretty and too popular.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this, you cannot be a Cheap Charlie with a top of the rung girl that is in demand. Standard practice to buy them a drink once they sit down. Investing 1 or 2 drinks in a hottie is well worth it so you can judge what your next move is.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2670047]Yes.
They drink the real shot, and then I order more (up to 4).[/QUOTE]Considering that the lady expected the watered down drink, and that they want (to remain sober, I wondered whether some might not appreciate having to drink the real tequila shot.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670201]I actually think some of your comments are naive. If I approached the girl from at Lai with your clumsy suggestion, she'd ignore me. She's too pretty and too popular. I'm getting vibes that you aim for girls a few rungs down the ladder, so it might work for you but it wouldn't for every girl, especially the popular ones.[/QUOTE]That was my read as well. If you're a typical Pattaya sexpat you're goal is cheap sex often. Never paying more than 1300 (1000+300 room maybe). No buying drinks unless you have to, and definitely no tipping. This works fine for the 30 yo+ ladies as they are happy to have any customer. And since Pattaya has way more 30+ ladies than under 30 I can see how a expat thinks this way.
What annoys me about these expats is that its the tourist $$ that keeps Pattaya going, not the cheap charlies. New girls aren't coming to Pattaya to meet only customers who don't buy drinks and don't tip. At Mr. Enternational Don't put down tourists whose money Pattaya desperately needs ATM.
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The Money
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2670305]It is not about a budget. It is about someone not realizing they are dealing with hookers. You do not have to butter them up or win them over by buying drinks as he is reportedly attempting and failing to do. You merely have to ask them how much to come fuck. The shit is elementary.
But if he thinks he is going to win some type of prize or it makes him feel all fuzzy inside buying drinks then enjoy the pleasure. But it has zero to do with whether you will be able to fuck the girl as it seems he is attributing it to.[/QUOTE]Of course, it is very much about the money with these girls. Not 100% that and only that. But mostly that.
Therefore, on the issue of money and bargirls, it's not like taking a girl without buying her a LadyDrink upfront causes the whole issue of the money she and the bar would have otherwise gotten for those LDs evaporate from the exchange and forgotten. Your approach is asking a bargirl to leave 200 baht on the table that she would otherwise split with the bar that allows her to stand or sit around and ply her trade out of the heat and rain minus the actual cost of the booze for every LD you don't buy her. And in exchange for what?
I have no doubt girls who can't imagine getting two or more LadyDrinks bought for them tonight would jump at the offer. But girls who are at least popular enough to know they can easily get 2 or more LDs bought for them and get the barfine paid for them and get close to their asking price in the room any night of the week would have no incentive to do it unless some bizarre desperate circumstances arose for her the very night and hour you happened to hit on her.
A popular bargirl might be fine with doing that as long as she calculates she will get that "butter me up" extra 200-400 baht out of you in some other way. In some cases, it could easily be after you've paid the barfine and discovered in the room that no way in hell is the chemistry right with this one. That is when I would wish I had only invested 200 baht and 10 minutes sitting next to her in the bar before I wasted my time taking her back to my room and dealing with whatever money will be exchanged now.
Unless you are saying you and anyone reading your posts can easily walk into any bar, choose a girl among the most popular ones, among the better lookers by a reasonable consensus of punters, simply say "let's go" or at most after just a moment or two of chitchat that likely isn't even about sex and she'd hop off the stage and go with you. Whereupon you will, after just paying the barfine and taking her to your room, get the BBFS+CIP you've said is the undiscussed norm in Thailand during a Long Time starting at a reasonable time of the night and all for only the 1,000-1,100 baht you say you have virtually always paid for LT and almost never more than that.
Yes, if that is what you are saying you routinely do any time of the day or night in go-go bars, beer bars and so on without haunting the venues at all and sometimes ungodly hours, waiting around like a sick puppy waiting for the rare opportunity to arise where such a thing might happen with a girl who would otherwise have no problem getting LD commissions paid to her, barfines paid for her and 2,000+ baht paid to her just for ST, then you are indeed the King of Thai Punters!
However, something tells me that isn't the way it routinely works for you nor would it likely routinely work that way for anyone else. Sure, it might happen occasionally for anyone if the stars are aligned just so. But routinely and predictably on any given night with any given girl the punter actually wants to fuck, highly doubtful.
Again, I can only compare my experience and observation with bargirls in Bangkok. Maybe it is a whole different bargirl world in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2670307]Newsflash! She is a HOOKER. She is there to fuck for money![/QUOTE]We established when we locked horns on this page before my trip that that's all you see these girls as. Someone to bang if necessary terms and conditions are agreed on beforehand. Many people, not just me, see them as people and enjoy getting to know them too. That's the bit you seem to be missing. You come across as a cheap Charlie who thinks they know best.
As I said earlier, people have different approaches and there isn't a right way, no matter how vehemently you suggest there is.
P.S. - please please please go up to the prettiest gogo girl you can find and by way of introduction ask her 'do you do anal?' I'm dying to hear how that goes.
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When is a working girl not a working girl?
So I met this younger guy a few months ago on soi 6 and you know how these girls want to latch onto a younger guy for a relationship, marriage and all that. Anyway he has a unique view on the long time setup here in Thailand with pay for play. He won't 'pay the girls for sex' but at times he will 'give them 1000 baht to come by his condo after work'. Then in his mind the sex isn't pay for play since he paid ahead of time. There are few mid 30's guys roaming around Thailand so he gets lots of attention. Helps that he's on Thai Friendly. He'll even tell them 'I'll spend time with you but I won't give you money'. So he gets the girls that have sponsors, girls that just want to have sex with a younger guy at their discretion. But he draws a very 'unique' line between working girls and a relationship. That line is the thinness of a condom. You give a girl money and she has sex without a condom then he looks down on the girl for not having safe sex. But in the mean time he's seeing a girl that he paid at the beginning to get her over (or gave her the money) and she has sex with him bareback then its a different story. They are 'in a relationship' so bareback is now allowed. An interesting view I must say. He also has a unique view on a working girl being in a 'relationship' where she gets no support and works in the bars having sex with other men. That is allowed as long as a condom is in use.
Now to me money is what controls these girls. You want sex, give them money. You want a relationship, give them support to send back home. I've been in this game too long not to have realized money is the key to all things. The guy met a really good looking girl and got her to quit opening her legs to earn money. He flew back home after his visa ended after buying her a 100,000 baht motorcycle with plans on paying for her condo while he worked a few months and then coming back. He has very little savings and wants to move here permanently and get a job teaching. A relationship fraught with many pitfalls from a girl used to making tons of cash and having a guy who's running low on money. Will be interesting to see where he is in ten years and if a working girl can become a homebody.
I know that this post is a bit of a ramble. But it is that way because his arguments are so unlike what pay for play is all about. Young man's syndrome might be a good description for it. I told him he should head out to the province and find normal girls and see if his charm works on them instead of focusing on working girls.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670374]Many people, not just me, see them as people and enjoy getting to know them too. [/QUOTE]Of course they are people. They are people with a certain job to do. And that job is fucking for money. When you are looking for a guy to paint your house do you tell him hey let me buy you some drinks before you get started and hope he really likes you enough to let you pay him to paint your house? No. You say how much to paint my house because you know he is a house painter. I do not know how this get lost when it is about pussy.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;2670374]You come across as a cheap Charlie who thinks they know best.[/quote]I don't know if I know best, but what I do know is that I am paying for pussy. You seem to think you are impressing them with your drink buying abilities. But even after all that you are still not able to fuck them. You leave thinking well I guess I did not buy her enough drinks. I better come back tomorrow and buy more.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2670374]P.S. - please please please go up to the prettiest gogo girl you can find and by way of introduction ask her 'do you do anal?' I'm dying to hear how that goes.[/QUOTE]Go up to the prettiest hooker and ask her about sex? She knows what she is there for, but evidently some of her customers do not.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2668274]By the way, once you cleared your PCR test, could you bring a girl back to your room? Or did you have to change hotels?[/QUOTE]The right answer is, yes.
But some hotels don't give a fark about guests. They may say no. They may even say everything is a yes before you get your PCR test results. I stay in 1 which allowed me to go out of the hotel to collect my food delivery and in the process I walked to the nearest 7-11 (5 min away) to take beer back to my room to drink. Seriously I can see they don't give a fark about my quarantine.
Do consult your hotel beforehand.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2670401]Of course they are people. They are people with a certain job to do. And that job is fucking for money. When you are looking for a guy to paint your house do you tell him hey let me buy you some drinks before you get started and hope he really likes you enough to let you pay him to paint your house? No. You say how much to paint my house because you know he is a house painter. I do not know how this get lost when it is about pussy.
I don't know if I know best, but what I do know is that I am paying for pussy. You seem to think you are impressing them with your drink buying abilities. But even after all that you are still not able to fuck them. You leave thinking well I guess I did not buy her enough drinks. I better come back tomorrow and buy more.
Go up to the prettiest hooker and ask her about sex? She knows what she is there for, but evidently some of her customers do not.[/QUOTE]There isn't a punter here who couldn't find a Thai hooker who would go to his room and fuck for 500 baht. Maybe less.
Have you ever seen a house with a really shitty paint job? I have.
Have you ever tried to contract with a really good house painter and had him say, "Really busy these days. Call me back in a month and I'll see what I can do"? I have.
Turns out there are a lot of crappy house painters who seem to be available for any job at any time for almost any price.
And really good ones who are not.
It all depends on how important a good quality paint job is to you for your house.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2668274]By the way, once you cleared your PCR test, could you bring a girl back to your room? Or did you have to change hotels?[/QUOTE]Once your RT-PCR test comes back negative you leave your SHA+ hotel to a different hotel unless you booked your SHA+ hotel for more than 1 night.
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Your SHA+ hotel
[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2670446]The right answer is, yes.
But some hotels don't give a fark about guests. They may say no. They may even say everything is a yes before you get your PCR test results. I stay in 1 which allowed me to go out of the hotel to collect my food delivery and in the process I walked to the nearest 7-11 (5 min away) to take beer back to my room to drink. Seriously I can see they don't give a fark about my quarantine.
Do consult your hotel beforehand.[/QUOTE]LookingLooking; It sounds to me like I should spend my first night quarantining at your hotel. I wouldn't mind a little naughty fun while awaiting my PCR result! Can you share its name with us? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2670855]LookingLooking; It sounds to me like I should spend my first night quarantining at your hotel. I wouldn't mind a little naughty fun while awaiting my PCR result! Can you share its name with us? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The Quarter Hualamphong by UHG.
Hey, don't blame me if you get caught. You'll become a fugitive.
I did not try to bring anyone into my room on quarantine day.
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Vietnam has fully reopened. No quarantine. No COVID test on arrival. No Thailand Pass headache. No pre-paying for airline tickets. No pre-paying for Test and Go hotel. No insurance requirement. No chance of getting locked up for 10 days and paying out of your own pocket because your insurance won't cover for asymptomatic people.. Back to pre-pandemic entry requirements. Simple 30 day eVisa online, book flight and go. Vietnam here I come!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2675023]Vietnam has fully reopened. No quarantine. No COVID test on arrival. No Thailand Pass headache. No pre-purchasing airline tickets. No Test and Go hotel. No insurance requirement. No chance of getting locked up for 10 days. Back to pre-pandemic entry requirements. Simple 30 day eVisa online, book flight and go. Vietnam here I come![/QUOTE]Sounds great. Have a great trip. Thailand & Jakarta can't be far behind.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2675007]I've never been a LT guy, after I'm done I have no desire to hang out with them. But they'd usually quote for both. 00 Tmae was 500-1 k ST and 1 k-1500 LT. Exchange rate was 40 plus to the USD, so 12.50ST. And as a dude in his early 30's, I could knock off two or three and not spend 50 bucks. Was a hard transition around 07 when I started going to the oilies and paying 2,100 for 90 minutes. Most I was paying then for ST was 1 K for FL and GoGo gals. But performance at the oilies certainly warranted it. Leaving with your knees shaking every time was amazing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2675024]500 B ST with brand new streetwalker. I was her first client (yes I know they all say so but this one was true). And I have the video to remember it by.
Routine BBFS, no questions asked.
Nadia, a half Thai half Indian non pro I met outside Nana hotel. Craziest sex ever. She showed up once at my nice hotel wearing a white latex nurse outfit and red fishnets. Made a full prono with me with my good buddy playing cameraman and gave him a nice BJ as a reward. Used to giver her 100 USD after a few days of fun.
Great sex on Soi 6 for 700 Bhat with young hot cuties. Had to shoo them away there were so many of them.
And many many more. So yeah, compared to those days its been downhill for a while now. Covid is the final nail I fear.[/QUOTE]FFS, stop with this bullshit of "the golden days" or "back in '00". Who the fuck cares what it used to be 100 years ago? Fucking annoying as hell! Covid is the best thing that happened to mongers in a long time. It has actually set the prices back. Thermae girls are reducing prices to 4 k for LT and 2 k ST. You're still complaining? GTFO. Sick of this shit.
With enough research, 2 pops during 90 minutes can be had for 1800B with some of the hottest ladies on fiwfans. 1200-1500B for some hot young MP AND soi 6 ladies in Pattaya, too.
Just please stop complaining about how good it used to be.
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Haha.
There's probably some dude in a retirement village in Florida telling all he can bash that things in Thailand changed in '39. A harem of topless consorts in each village. Only protection needed was a gun against tigers.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2675127]FFS, stop with this bullshit of "the golden days" or "back in '00". Who the fuck cares what it used to be 100 years ago? Fucking annoying as hell! Covid is the best thing that happened to mongers in a long time. It has actually set the prices back. Thermae girls are reducing prices to 4 k for LT and 2 k ST. You're still complaining? GTFO. Sick of this shit.
With enough research, 2 pops during 90 minutes can be had for 1800B with some of the hottest ladies on fiwfans. 1200-1500B for some hot young MP AND soi 6 ladies in Pattaya, too.
Just please stop complaining about how good it used to be.[/QUOTE]
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Covid test for US return
I was looking at the requirement for returning to the US from Thailand. The requirement is full vaccination and a covid test taken the day before the flight. My question is which covid test is being required and where can I get a test done the day before my flight? Also, how much will it cost to get the test done? Thanks for any info.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2675127]FFS, stop with this bullshit of "the golden days" or "back in '00". Who the fuck cares what it used to be 100 years ago? Fucking annoying as hell! [/QUOTE]I do. You don't. Don't tell me (and others) what to talk about.
When dealing with changes, it helps to see how others perceive them. Hearing a ton of upbeat bullshit about the current scene sometimes makes me doubt my own sanity.
In a different world, maybe this forum should be all about specific tips on girls and venues (go here, pay this much), but clearly that's not the case. People talk about various mongering-related topics, and comparing the current situation to previous times is a legit one. Deal with it. Use the ignore function if you must.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2675127]Covid is the best thing that happened to mongers in a long time. It has actually set the prices back.[/QUOTE]
Prices are not the main issue. Problem is the reduced selection of working girls, which is outright depressing, often bordering on disgusting, as well as the complete lack of fun in the Bangkok scene. For a brief period in 2020, there actually was a mini-revival with a few interesting girls at low prices, but that's long gone now.
Of course, if you still love it, great for you, enjoy while you can.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2675127]FFS, stop with this bullshit of "the golden days" or "back in '00". Who the fuck cares what it used to be 100 years ago? Fucking annoying as hell! Covid is the best thing that happened to mongers in a long time. It has actually set the prices back. Thermae girls are reducing prices to 4 k for LT and 2 k ST. You're still complaining? GTFO. Sick of this shit.
With enough research, 2 pops during 90 minutes can be had for 1800B with some of the hottest ladies on fiwfans. 1200-1500B for some hot young MP AND soi 6 ladies in Pattaya, too.
Just please stop complaining about how good it used to be.[/QUOTE]If you'll notice I did at the end of one of my posts praise the online scene, which I do find good, but as Croc said in the preceding post, the entire scene is just not fun anymore. Best analogy I can come up with is going to Disneyland and only 10% of the rides are operating and all of those at one quarter of the speed they were be operating at. Another would be skiing on a mountain that used to have fluffy powdery snow and now only has one run open and it's icy with bare spots. So no, it's not just about the cost, it is somewhat about availability as there is only a fraction of what there was, but it is about how the scene has changed over the last 10 years and most of that is not related to covid but to the changing nature of punters in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2675157]I was looking at the requirement for returning to the US from Thailand. The requirement is full vaccination and a covid test taken the day before the flight. My question is which covid test is being required .[/QUOTE]Full vaccination is only required for non US citizens. Antigen test is required.
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This is your experience but there are many don't have the same experience as you and are free to think without the comparison.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2675194].Hearing a ton of upbeat bullshit about the current scene sometimes makes me doubt my own sanity...[/QUOTE]I am saying the above based on your statement below.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2675194]...When dealing with changes, it helps to see how others perceive them....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2675194]I do. You don't. Don't tell me (and others) what to talk about.
When dealing with changes, it helps to see how others perceive them. Hearing a ton of upbeat bullshit about the current scene sometimes makes me doubt my own sanity.
In a different world, maybe this forum should be all about specific tips on girls and venues (go here, pay this much), but clearly that's not the case. People talk about various mongering-related topics, and comparing the current situation to previous times is a legit one. Deal with it. Use the ignore function if you must.
Prices are not the main issue. Problem is the reduced selection of working girls, which is outright depressing, often bordering on disgusting, as well as the complete lack of fun in the Bangkok scene. For a brief period in 2020, there actually was a mini-revival with a few interesting girls at low prices, but that's long gone now.
Of course, if you still love it, great for you, enjoy while you can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2675214]If you'll notice I did at the end of one of my posts praise the online scene, which I do find good, but as Croc said in the preceding post, the entire scene is just not fun anymore. Best analogy I can come up with is going to Disneyland and only 10% of the rides are operating and all of those at one quarter of the speed they were be operating at. Another would be skiing on a mountain that used to have fluffy powdery snow and now only has one run open and it's icy with bare spots. So no, it's not just about the cost, it is somewhat about availability as there is only a fraction of what there was, but it is about how the scene has changed over the last 10 years and most of that is not related to covid but to the changing nature of punters in Thailand.[/QUOTE]My apologies. I was drunk out of my mind when I wrote that post. I don't take back what I said, but I would normally exercise more restraint. I suppose that's what alcohol does.
I do find it annoying. But that's because I'm coming from the US where talents have dried up much more than here. I hope you understand that for most of us coming from abroad, this is still paradise. Where we're able to drop a nut for $36-$45 per pop easily. There are massage parlors nearby where I'm staying currently in Pattaya where their standard rate is 1200-1500 be for CFS. If you're comparing it to when you used to pay $21 back in 2000, then it seems in line with inflation, if not less.
I don't like stirring up drama and I'm sorry if I caused any butts to be hurt =).
I'll write a fiw (pun intended) FRs as recompense (in the Pattaya thread).
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2675214]If you'll notice I did at the end of one of my posts praise the online scene, which I do find good, but as Croc said in the preceding post, the entire scene is just not fun anymore. Best analogy I can come up with is going to Disneyland and only 10% of the rides are operating and all of those at one quarter of the speed they were be operating at. Another would be skiing on a mountain that used to have fluffy powdery snow and now only has one run open and it's icy with bare spots. So no, it's not just about the cost, it is somewhat about availability as there is only a fraction of what there was, but it is about how the scene has changed over the last 10 years and most of that is not related to covid but to the changing nature of punters in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I don't think you need to soften or back down from what you wrote. I think if we can read their post they need to take the time to bare with others regardless of how old or young they are! I remember those days clearly as it happen yesterday but today is today one thing for sure everyone comes to a point in their life thinking about the old days no one is so above that it doesn't happen sadly some of us won't be around when they start doing it and someone tells them the same!
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[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2675157]I was looking at the requirement for returning to the US from Thailand. The requirement is full vaccination and a covid test taken the day before the flight. My question is which covid test is being required and where can I get a test done the day before my flight? Also, how much will it cost to get the test done? Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Agree ATG is sufficient, but it must be properly documented. Pain in the ass.
If someone finds a specific place in lower Sukhumvit area, please post. I've found many online, but haven't dug far enough to find details such as specific location, price, and appointment details.
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Vietnam
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2675023]Vietnam has fully reopened. No quarantine. No COVID test on arrival. No Thailand Pass headache. No pre-paying for airline tickets. No pre-paying for Test and Go hotel. No insurance requirement. No chance of getting locked up for 10 days and paying out of your own pocket because your insurance won't cover for asymptomatic people.. Back to pre-pandemic entry requirements. Simple 30 day eVisa online, book flight and go. Vietnam here I come![/QUOTE]That is for fully vaccinated (sic) mongers only.
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The good ole days
I understand some are tired of hearing about the old days since those days are no longer relevant. It not that hard to scroll past those posts as we do for other topics that don't interest us. My first visit was in 1997 and it was literally heaven on earth. The sheer numbers of good looking girls begging for you to choose them is not something that can be imagined. It was unbelievable. And your age really didn't matter. As Goatscrot has pointed out old men and the hottest young girls was a common sight. I'm so happy to have been there in those times. Ok I'll stop now.
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Compared to now any single day pre-COVID was the good old days!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2675701]Compared to now any single day pre-COVID was the good old days![/QUOTE]I don't know, I've actually had a pretty good time with online during covid. Great looking girls and excellent prices. I'd say it's the best time I've had in quite a few years. I'm not going to be thrilled to see the hordes return.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2675526]I understand some are tired of hearing about the old days since those days are no longer relevant. It not that hard to scroll past those posts as we do for other topics that don't interest us.....[/QUOTE]I have never understood guys complaining about posts. Most of the time I am on ISG I'm scrolling and stop only to read something that has piqued my interest.
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Can anyone who's recently arrived in Thailand give their experiences in the process? Specifically, the Test and Go scheme.
I was originally not going to Thailand because of all the required tests and all but wanted to hear first hand experiences first.
So my questions:
1. I see that there is a PCR-RT test given to you on first day of arrival. Where is that done? At the airport or at the hotel?
2. Which leads me to, can you take taxi to hotel in Pattaya and get tested there instead of Bangkok?
3. How long did it take you to get your first test result back?
4. I also see that there is a day 5 test required, but this one can be rapid antigen based and can be done by yourself. How was that process?
5. It appears that you have to spend one night in a specialized hotel after the day 5 test. Did you stay your entire time in Pattaya at the same hotel you took your test? It seems like a pain to me to have to book a separate hotel on day 5 only.
6. How strict are the police about wearing face masks?
Thanks!
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Ditto!
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2675381]Agree ATG is sufficient, but it must be properly documented. Pain in the ass.
If someone finds a specific place in lower Sukhumvit area, please post. I've found many online, but haven't dug far enough to find details such as specific location, price, and appointment details.[/QUOTE]Exactly my question. What is the ATG test? Is that a ATK test or PCR test? The CDC requirement is for an "antigen" test. So what that means is an issue.
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Thailand or Cambodia or Phillipines
Hey folks,
Considering a mongering + tourism trip next month but not able to decide between BKK Thailand or PP Cambodia or AC Philippines.
I have travelled a lot and mongered across the globe, so I am not a newbie. But I have not been to BKK or PP or AC.
I have RTFF on all these cities, but still need advice from someone who has been to all these cities and can provide a first hand insight.
Appreciate your help and as always I will contribute to the forum after I visit one of these destinations based on your suggestion.
Cheers!
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AC vs BKK VS PP
[QUOTE=Monger234;2676035]Hey folks,
Considering a mongering + tourism trip next month but not able to decide between BKK Thailand or PP Cambodia or AC Philippines.
I have travelled a lot and mongered across the globe, so I am not a newbie. But I have not been to BKK or PP or AC.
I have RTFF on all these cities, but still need advice from someone who has been to all these cities and can provide a first hand insight.
Appreciate your help and as always I will contribute to the forum after I visit one of these destinations based on your suggestion.[/QUOTE]Depends how important the "tourism" part of your trip is and what you want to do in the non mongering time. Of the 3 BKK is the most interesting from a general tourism perspective and AC is the least. BKK has temples, culture, great dining, clubs etc. AC is a dilapidated third world shit hole with nothing to do outside fucking and drinking. Its ok for 3-4 days at most. PP is not quite as desolate as AC but not as good as BKK. For mongering if you want friendly English speaking girls with BBFS the norm, then its hard to beat AC, even with the higher prices and lower mileage in bars than the good old days. BKK has a large selection of pretty girls, but feels more commercial. Haven't played in PP so can't compare but seems again half way between AC and BKK.
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HCM too
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2676107]Depends how important the "tourism" part of your trip is and what you want to do in the non mongering time. Of the 3 BKK is the most interesting from a general tourism perspective and AC is the least. BKK has temples, culture, great dining, clubs etc. AC is a dilapidated third world shit hole with nothing to do outside fucking and drinking. Its ok for 3-4 days at most. PP is not quite as desolate as AC but not as good as BKK. For mongering if you want friendly English speaking girls with BBFS the norm, then its hard to beat AC, even with the higher prices and lower mileage in bars than the good old days. BKK has a large selection of pretty girls, but feels more commercial. Haven't played in PP so can't compare but seems again half way between AC and BKK.[/QUOTE]Don't forget HCM and Vietnam. My buddy another ISGer is there now. I think most of you know already who it is by his pics. He says they have Gogo dancers everywhere now and he was able to smash one the other night. He says he's having time of his life at very cheap prices 60% less than Pre-Covid. 1,000,000 2 hours of GFE from very very hot girls with the prettiest nipples. The online game is even better than Fiwfans for him. Best food in the world. He also apologizes that his LINE contacts all got lost because his Thai number was ported out and not backed up when he went to Vietnam. Those who need to contact him, already know who and how. He hopes to see some of us there soon because it's all open. Long live the Prince!
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HCM Vs BKK
[QUOTE=RacShack;2676593]Don't forget HCM and Vietnam. My buddy another ISGer is there now. I think most of you know already who it is by his pics. He says they have Gogo dancers everywhere now and he was able to smash one the other night. He says he's having time of his life at very cheap prices 60% less than Pre-Covid. 1,000,000 2 hours of GFE from very very hot girls with the prettiest nipples. The online game is even better than Fiwfans for him. Best food in the world. He also apologizes that his LINE contacts all got lost because his Thai number was ported out and not backed up when he went to Vietnam. Those who need to contact him, already know who and how. He hopes to see some of us there soon because it's all open. Long live the Prince![/QUOTE]What a perfect timing for your reply, thank you. Just today I was going to ask about HCM Vietnam because in the original comparison between BKK, PP and AC, I somehow forgot to add HCM, which was also in my original list of destinations. How is the scene in HCM, is it restricted to a small mongering hub or is it big like BKK. Is there a lot of bars / places to pick girls and is the nightlife good. It sure looks good from RTFF of HCM, but how would you compare it to BKK. Thanks a lot for your reply!
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Arranging the test and the first night's hotel
I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.
Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?
I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2678374]I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.
Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?
I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.[/QUOTE]It's probably best to book directly with the hotel or else use Agoda and ensure that you search for SHA plus hotels. I booked directly with Holiday Inn for last December.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2678374]I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.
Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?
I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.[/QUOTE]This thread had much discussion on the topic about 3 months ago, suggest you read there for background. Changes of which I'm aware are small: (1) The day 5 RT-PCR test is replaced with day 5 antigen test. (2) Starting April 1, you no longer need the pre-travel RT-PCR test.
Your day 1 SHA hotel package should include secure transportation from airport, RT-PCR test and the room. Be sure either food or room service is available. Since this is a special hotel package, I recommend booking directly with the hotel and skip sites like [URL]Agoda.com[/URL] and [URL]Hotels.com[/URL].
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My hotel allowed me to partake in the breakfast buffet even though my result wasn't in yet. I don't think many of these hotels are very strict about enforcing the rules. Not that I suggest anyone break them and go out before the result comes in.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2678594]This thread had much discussion on the topic about 3 months ago, suggest you read there for background. Changes of which I'm aware are small: (1) The day 5 RT-PCR test is replaced with day 5 antigen test. (2) Starting April 1, you no longer need the pre-travel RT-PCR test.
Your day 1 SHA hotel package should include secure transportation from airport, RT-PCR test and the room. Be sure either food or room service is available. Since this is a special hotel package, I recommend booking directly with the hotel and skip sites like [URL]Agoda.com[/URL] and [URL]Hotels.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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BKK v AC v PP v HCMC v Jakarta
[QUOTE=Monger234;2676862]What a perfect timing for your reply, thank you. Just today I was going to ask about HCM Vietnam because in the original comparison between BKK, PP and AC, I somehow forgot to add HCM, which was also in my original list of destinations. How is the scene in HCM, is it restricted to a small mongering hub or is it big like BKK. Is there a lot of bars / places to pick girls and is the nightlife good. It sure looks good from RTFF of HCM, but how would you compare it to BKK. Thanks a lot for your reply![/QUOTE]
I have spent lots of time in all of the above over the past decade (500+ girls) By far, Jakarta is the best for me. Tons of girls, lots of free lancers. Low prices ($35-$55 for FS) The city doesn't have a lot of tourism options, it but certainly good for 3-5 days if you stay near one of the shopping malls (Plaza Indonesia is the best). Easy to bring girls back to the hotels with you so pick a nice 4-5 star with a swimming pool. Indo women are generally pretty flexible, not arrogant, can be very pretty, and BB is often the rule. Fewer MILFs than other places. Lots of venue options.
Saigon was very good for a while for me, but by 2018, it seemed difficult to find young attractive girls. I had a network of a few mamasan who could deliver great girls. Occasionally possible to find an attractive girl in more recent times, but I never found a club or bar that had take-out girls. I don't think that's common/legal in Vietnam. Sometimes you can work the online forums or WeChat, but often I found that a horrible waste of time with lots of bait-n-switch. I much prefer a city that has dedicated venues where you can see, meet, and pick your girl. There are many massage options that usually deliver a happy ending, but I have tried multiple times to convert those in to FS and rarely succeeded. That said, of all the locations, Vietnam is the best for food and tourism. In Saigon or Hanoi, you can have some real fun at the KTVs if you know your way around and have a local friend, and don't mind spending money (half a dozen, half-naked or fully-naked 18-22 yr beautiful girls singing and dancing, lots of groping. No sex in the KTV, but most will go home with you for USD 100-150). I would say, for me, very high chance of a strike out in Saigon if I want FS with attractive non-MILF under 24 and I'm not doing the KTV route.
AC is exactly as described, a shithole of rundown bars and a ton of friendly MILFs. If you are ok with some baby damage and want nonstop maximum drinking and cheap sex with basic food and no ambiance, it's an awesome choice. Pinoys are really sweet, kind, women and they all speak more English than the other locations. But after three visits, I won't go back.
PP. Haven't been in 4 years, but the bars were pretty good back then. I like the city a lot. Good food, nice attractions. A Khmer girl often is fairly docile and sweet, like a lot of Buddhists. If I didn't love Jakarta so much, I would re-visit, maybe I should put it on the list for 2022.
BKK. The most "sex-forward" of places, lots of options and very unlikely to not find what you are after. Good food. Nice city to visit, lots of tourism options. Personally, I would try Phuket these days, but have never mongered there, no cant add an informed opinion.
Manila. You didn't put it on your list, but I would rank it above AC as more likely to find single girls, not only MILFs.
Personal ranking:
Jakarta: 9/10.
BKK: 8/10.
PP (circa 2018): 7/10.
HCMC: 6/10.
AC: 5/10.
The obvious choice is to go to two or three cities over 2 to 3 weeks if you have the time. The places are all within a few hours of each other.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2678630]Personal ranking:
Jakarta: 9/10.
BKK: 8/10.
PP (circa 2018): 7/10.
HCMC: 6/10.
AC: 5/10..[/QUOTE]It's an interesting debate. Personally I would rank Jakarta much lower. Yes it is very cheap and has some exceptionally pretty young girls in places like Classic, Travel, Pen J, Stadium etc, but it's a bang and go type place with far fewer long-time opportunities, the girls speak little English and I struggled to either find the girlfriend experience (a lot of girls don't kiss) or the pornstar experience (a lot of girls won't give oral). It's a great place to have cheap quickies with gorgeous girls but the sex cannot compare to other places in Asia in my opinion.
Your assessment of Angeles massively differs from my experience too. I found on multiple visits there were lots of young, pretty girls, available for long-time at about 60% of the price you'd pay in Thailand. All the girls speak excellent English and Filipinas are by far the most carnal girls I've encountered in Asia. In my opinion, Angeles is the only place that can rival Pattaya or Bangkok, although it's a gogo town with little else going on (the beauty of Thailand is the sheer variety of ways you can meet girls). The other places you listed like Ho Chi Minh and Phnom Penh I found to be interesting diversions, but no more.
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I am looking for a link to the official announcement that pre-departure RT-PCR tests are no longer required on April 1.
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Rankings of all the P4P cities I have been to in SEA. This is only on girls' looks and quantity of girls. Price is not relevant. This has nothing to do with service since that is huge YMMV everywhere anyways. In brackets are the number of visits I have made since 2016. Caveat Emptor I have not been to any of these places except Thailand since COVID began.
Jakarta (10+).
Pattaya (hometown).
Bangkok (40+ at least).
Singapore (3).
Ho Chi Minh (2).
Phnom Penh (10).
Kuala Lumpur (2).
Regarding Jakarta yes it's true it's mainly incalls but I think many guys on here are more than happy with places like Soi 6 in Pattaya. If you want girls to take home there are tons at iBar type places like CJs and Bats. Not sure if Sir Lancelot has been to those.
Now if you care to do things in addition to P4P, Bangkok is the best city followed by Singapore.
Here's a YouTube video of Bui Vien Walking Street this past weekend. Are BKK or Soi Buakhao currently rocking like this when you guys say they're busy? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L50wk-YTM&t=28s[/URL].
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2678683]Here's a YouTube video of Bui Vien Walking Street this past weekend. Are BKK or Soi Buakhao currently rocking like this when you guys say they're busy? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L50wk-YTM&t=28s[/URL].[/QUOTE]I never been to Vietnam although I like the Viet girls I have met in HGK and Singapore mucho. The Viet's that use to to hang out in Wan Chai bars 10 years ago were the life of the party.
This street in Saigon looks like a tourist nightmare to me. I see something like Walking Street Pattaya pre-Covid with similar foot traffic but without Go Go's, bars, and girls and by girls I mean hookers. No thanks.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2678630]I have spent lots of time in all of the above over the past decade (500+ girls) By far, Jakarta is the best for me. Tons of girls, lots of free lancers. Low prices ($35-$55 for FS) The city doesn't have a lot of tourism options, it but certainly good for 3-5 days if you stay near one of the shopping malls (Plaza Indonesia is the best). Easy to bring girls back to the hotels with you so pick a nice 4-5 star with a swimming pool. Indo women are generally pretty flexible, not arrogant, can be very pretty, and BB is often the rule. Fewer MILFs than other places. Lots of venue options.
Saigon was very good for a while for me, but by 2018, it seemed difficult to find young attractive girls. I had a network of a few mamasan who could deliver great girls. Occasionally possible to find an attractive girl in more recent times, but I never found a club or bar that had take-out girls. I don't think that's common/legal in Vietnam. Sometimes you can work the online forums or WeChat, but often I found that a horrible waste of time with lots of bait-n-switch. I much prefer a city that has dedicated venues where you can see, meet, and pick your girl. There are many massage options that usually deliver a happy ending, but I have tried multiple times to convert those in to FS and rarely succeeded. That said, of all the locations, Vietnam is the best for food and tourism..[/QUOTE]A good list, Steel. I am glad you posted. It got me thinking about my own favorite towns.
I have never been to Saigon for exactly the reason you describe above. No thanks. It just sounds like too much trouble to find obliging hot girls to consider this city a 1st class or even a 2nd class mongering water hole and most 4* to 5* hotels are girl unfriendly, so it has never been on my radar.
I like Jakarta because I love Jakarta girls. They are so natural and up for a good time! My favorite joint is Malioboro / Malio and I am very happy to hear it is survived Covid. Emporium is gone as is Blok M / Too bad! I used to enjoy starting the evening out in a bordello and then later going to CJ's, Bats, or Blok M to look for a 2nd girl. The longest amount of time I spent in Jakarta on any one trip was 3 weeks and I was ready to fly to Manila by the end of that visit. Ha Ha. 2 to 2.5 weeks is ample. I definitely would not want to live there.
So despite all it's flaws and there are many, I still think Thailand reigns as the number 1 girly destination on the planet. BKK & Pattaya. The reason is obvious: girls, girls, girls, anytime of the day or night. Just walk outside your hotel in BKK or Pat and you are there. Plus the food is great and it has very low crime stats. I walk anywhere, day or night, and I have never seen any trouble.
Phnom Penh is an enjoyable city. The girls are sexy and kind of funky too. I like that. They are a lot of fun. At one point back in the early 00's I actually liked PNH over BKK. Then the hostess bars changed a little with the advent of BMD girls and it was not as good as before, but I still like the place. But, Phnom is a relatively small place and it can get old fast. 2 to 3 weeks is about the most time I would want to spend there on any one trip.
Singapore pre-Covid was a really worthwhile destination. But I don't know if the good times will ever come back. The OT and Brix Bar were outstanding pick up joints. That's were I met a boatload of Viet girls. Geylang used to rock too. I liked the Chinese 150 houses best, and walking around Geylang after dark pre 2015 and being surrounded & accosted by hundreds, yes hundreds, of girls was simply amazing. I loved it!
Same same for Manila. I used to prefer Manila over AC. Why? Because the quality of Makati girls was so much higher (and so was the price, unfortunately). I met some of my all time favorite girls in Bottoms, Plan Bee & Kojax. The girls at EDSA were not too shabby either and super friendly. But the EDSA complex is closed for good and nobody knows the status of the 3 bars I just mentioned. I cry for you, Manila!
AC is a dump, always has been. It is a poor man's Pattaya, 555. Nothing to do all day except hang out by the hotel pool or go to a shitty shopping mall. It has been in decline for some time. I stopped going there in 2015. Pre 2010 it was pretty great! There were plenty of young, attractive bar girls and the EWR (early work release) was only 1200 p. For that small sum the girls would stay all night and shag as many times as you wanted. In fact getting them to leave was the problem back in the day. Pre-Covid 2019, however, AC was not the same place and I doubt things are going to improve post-Covid. I will probably never go back although you never know.
RGN: before Covid, I began branching out with side trips to Yangon. The girls were great and very unspoiled. I liked that! The city is spread out like Jakarta and you must take taxis to go from bar to bar, but the town is good. I will go back when I return to SE Asia.
HKG used to be great. This is the place where I found many lovely Viet girls as well as smokin' hot Japanese, Korean, Mainland Chinese, and even Mongolian girls. It is dead now and I do not see it ever coming back to life.
Sao Paulo: my new love! Yeah, thanks to Covid I changed continents. Easy entry, lots of super hot girls, good food; what is not to like? Nothing, plus it is 8. 5 hours from my home compared to 24 hours to BKK. SP is spread out like Jakarta. Fortunately Uber is cheap. For daytime action there are the Moema Clinicas which very much resemble Geylang houses. 240 BR is the all inclusive price for an hour of bliss with one of the girls. It is very worthwhile. Nightime action is centered around the Boates (bordellos) like in Jakarta and here SP really shines. Scandallo, for example, IMHO ranks as one of the best bordellos in the world, better than Malioboro / Mali club. I love this joint because every night you will find 100 to 150 freelance, very attractive, high class FL girls to choose from.
RJ (Rio de Janeiro): I had to include it in my roundup, although IMHO it pales in comparison to SP. It just does, sort of like MNL vs AC because the highest quality is found in SP even though RJ is still fun with plenty of Termas and small pick up bars to find girls, and it has iconic beaches.
So that's my list of favorite watering holes. If I had to place them in order of preference it would be:
1. BKK.
2. Pat.
3. Sao Paulo.
4. Jakarta.
5. MNL*.
6. Singapore*.
7. Phnom.
9. RJ.
9. Yangon.
10. AC.
* Sadly I have placed asterisks on MNL & Singapore because I have serious doubts that they will return to their pre-Covid good times. I sincerely hope they do.
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How did I leave Macau off my list of favorite destinations? I do not know.
From 2009 to Covid, I never travelled to Asia without spending 5 week nights (Sunday to Friday) in Macau at the beginning or the end of my Asian trip. Super expensive, you betcha, but my favorite Saunas had the best selection of Chinese Mainland, Korean, and Taiwanese girls anywhere! The NE Asian talent was so good that Viet girls were considered entry level (the least expensive) or they were consigned to thigh massage (hand job) duties.
In one of my favorite saunas pretty little Indonesian girls were given the sole job of helping customers disrobe. They apparently were not considered shag worthy. 555. Anyway, Macau had top quality girls, great service, super high prices, and great Cantonese food. It was one of my favorite destinations. I pray that the Saunas survive Covid! So here is my revised list of favorite watering holes:
1. BKK.
2. Pat.
3. Sao Paulo.
4. Jakarta.
5. MNL*.
6. Macau.
7. Singapore.
8. Phnom Penh.
9. RJ.
10. Yangon.
11. AC.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2678679]I am looking for a link to the official announcement that pre-departure RT-PCR tests are no longer required on April 1.[/QUOTE]As of yesterday the legal change had yet to be published in the Royal Gazette. It's still at the level of "politicians have agreed".
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[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2678775]As of yesterday the legal change had yet to be published in the Royal Gazette. It's still at the level of "politicians have agreed".[/QUOTE]I am told the new rules will be published on Monday.
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[QUOTE=Golds;2679811]In these high end massage places can you fuck them without condom?[/QUOTE]Are you trying to get super gonorrhea or something. Those massage girls fuck multiple men a day I wouldn't fuck them without a condom.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2678679]I am looking for a link to the official announcement that pre-departure RT-PCR tests are no longer required on April 1.[/QUOTE]I would rather take the pre-departure RT-PCR test and forgo the two in-country. The way I look at it, it's better to test positive before getting on the flight and having to cancel / reschedule, than test positive in Thailand get stuck in miserable quarantine conditions for 10-14 days.
And the United States continues to require a negative PCR-RT test only one day before flying back to the USA.
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Is that accurate intel?
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2679860]Are you trying to get super gonorrhea or something. Those massage girls fuck multiple men a day I wouldn't fuck them without a condom.[/QUOTE]Is this intel from your personal experience and testimonials from other guys you know who frequent those high end venues?
Because if it is, it seems like you are saying those top of the line stunner girls fuck bareback routinely and with virtually every customer. How else could they get the STDs you suggest a customer would avoid by wearing a condom?
If so, great! I might even be up for booking or taking one if those top of the line stunners even at something like 10,000 baht. Once in a while anyway.
Do I need to discuss it with them upfront or should I just count on the stunner I choose to simply go along with it without my mentioning it.
Frankly, I have not yet seen the That stunner who would be worth 10,000 baht for Short Time or Long Time unless BBFS+CIP was enthusiastically agreed to upfront.
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2679896]…And the United States continues to require a negative PCR-RT test only one day before flying back to the USA.[/QUOTE]Not quite accurate. The USA requires a viral test, which is less restrictive than only allowing RT-PCR test. The headache is that you must follow a certain process, simply doing an informal at home test is insufficient unless it includes certain documentation.
For my return I'll be using a hotel sponsored RT-PCR test, which is the same process as used on arrival. Expensive, yes. Easy, yes.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2680375]Not quite accurate. The USA requires a viral test, which is less restrictive than only allowing RT-PCR test. The headache is that you must follow a certain process, simply doing an informal at home test is insufficient unless it includes certain documentation.
For my return I'll be using a hotel sponsored RT-PCR test, which is the same process as used on arrival. Expensive, yes. Easy, yes.[/QUOTE]Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. I'm not too bright about the various tests. But yes you do have to follow some guidelines including getting proper documentation and all.
It's still not something I can risk with my current job.
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I am back in Thailand, and awaiting the results of the Covid test.
I am sharing a Test and Go room with a Thai lady this time.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2681045]I am sharing a Test and Go room with a Thai lady this time.[/QUOTE]Free Thai lady courtesy of the SHA+ hotel I hope.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2681194]Free Thai lady courtesy of the SHA+ hotel I hope.[/QUOTE]No, I took her to South America for 3 months.
She came back to Pattaya, and went out drinking the first night. Now she has Covid.
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Can anyone recommend a reputable rapid antigen test center in Pattaya that the airlines will accept at BKK before flying back to the USA? I think it's either PCR or antigen accepted and antigen seems faster results.
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What is the deal with Travel Pass
I have applied for the Travel Pass, about 2 weeks ago:
Within 30 minutes I have received- Insurance (paid with receipt and policy) Test and Go Hotel voucher (and even directions from the hotel for arrival), have submitted Hotel Voucher, Vax info for 3 shots,. No word from Travel Pass. Upon inquiry I get "Info not registered" and then I get a solicitation from "consultants" who can clear Travel Pass. Quickly, guaranteed, for about 2500 BT. Any comments, advise would be appreciated, I do have 6 weeks before arrival, which could possibly be the reason for delay, but who knows?
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Lingering Covid positive test question?
I'm finally in the very initial stages of a trip to Thailand in July. Problem is I was diagnosed with Covid a few days ago. My concern, other than a fast recovery, is I could possibly test positive for months. Has anybody been in this situation? Is it possible to avoid 10 days in hospital quarantine?
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The government is considering further reductions in requirements for entry into Thailand, such as eliminating the one day quarantine and the RT-PCR test. They are looking at implementation in May.
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Covid test for US return
[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2683223]Can anyone recommend a reputable rapid antigen test center in Pattaya that the airlines will accept at BKK before flying back to the USA? I think it's either PCR or antigen accepted and antigen seems faster results.[/QUOTE]This is the US Embassy for Thailand website regarding Covid 19: [URL]https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/[/URL].
This is the list of hospitals and clinics in Thailand that are recognized for providing tests for US return: [URL]https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/indexen.php[/URL].
This list is linked from the embassy webpage.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2683309]I'm finally in the very initial stages of a trip to Thailand in July. Problem is I was diagnosed with Covid a few days ago. My concern, other than a fast recovery, is I could possibly test positive for months. Has anybody been in this situation? Is it possible to avoid 10 days in hospital quarantine?[/QUOTE]Another question:
A lady friend is recovering from Omicron, when can I safely bang her?
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Th Pass
[QUOTE=StLouisMo2010;2683233]I have applied for the Travel Pass, about 2 weeks ago:
No word from Travel Pass. Upon inquiry I get "Info not registered" and then I get a solicitation from "consultants" who can clear Travel Pass. Quickly, guaranteed, for about 2500 BT. Any comments, advise would be appreciated, I do have 6 weeks before arrival, which could possibly be the reason for delay, but who knows?[/QUOTE]Did you apply with the official Thailand government website? [URL]https://tp.consular.go.th/home[/URL].
If so, try contacting them via their official channels, via Contact Us link.
I'd just apply again. I believe they don't process them until near departure date. Mine and a friend's passes were approved 2 days before flight. Another friend got worried when he was a week out and still no reply, so he just contacted them and received his next day.
Do not reply to any email from Thailand Pass. There was news about its database being hacked and email addresses of applicants being stolen. I still get a spear-phishing email every other week from supposedly Thailand Pass, stating that there's something wrong with my submitted documents and that I need to provide my DoB and passport number. Yeah, right. I've been in LOS for a few months, so I don't think I will be needing ThPass services. Nice try.
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[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2684212]This is the US Embassy for Thailand website regarding Covid 19: [URL]https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/[/URL].
This is the list of hospitals and clinics in Thailand that are recognized for providing tests for US return: [URL]https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/indexen.php[/URL].
This list is linked from the embassy webpage.[/QUOTE]Awesome, thank you (and others who PM'd me).
I wish the CDC kept the three day test window, but it is what it is.
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[QUOTE=KievFreak;2686355]Try Phuket, short time starts 2000 up. Usually 2 k-3 k depending on services. Because of high prices, I ask more thing such as BBFS, CIM, Rimming, deep throat etc. my success rate for all of these services is almost %90 Otherwise I don't accept to pay these high fees here in phuket. I never barfined from bars , always look for freelancers.
There is still mandatory ATK test in Pattaya before entering Gogos ?[/QUOTE]More bullshit from you Kievfreak, so I ask why you keep spreading it?
Those prices might be asked of dumb tourists on Patong, Bangla Road Walking Street, or ThaiFriendly, but they are not general Patong bar prices.
And even at those places, experienced punters have no problems getting those initial asking prices dropped considerably.
So why can't you?
Look around Patong OTOP, Patong Ratuthit or Nanai Road bars and the prices are much less than that.
Get out of Patong and hit the bars in Kamala, Kata, Karon, Chalong or Rawai and you will get short time easily for 1000 or a bit more plus bar fine.
And that will be with quality girls, some even the SYT (21) no baby damage ones you've claimed are no longer available in Phuket.
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[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2686688]More bullshit from you Kievfreak, so I ask why you keep spreading it?
Those prices might be asked of dumb tourists on Patong, Bangla Road Walking Street, or ThaiFriendly, but they are not general Patong bar prices.
And even at those places, experienced punters have no problems getting those initial asking prices dropped considerably.
So why can't you?
Look around Patong OTOP, Patong Ratuthit or Nanai Road bars and the prices are much less than that.
Get out of Patong and hit the bars in Kamala, Kata, Karon, Chalong or Rawai and you will get short time easily for 1000 or a bit more plus bar fine.
And that will be with quality girls, some even the SYT (21) no baby damage ones you've claimed are no longer available in Phuket.[/QUOTE]
Why you defend these girls so aggressively? Unless you have bar business in Phuket, there is really no sense about it. If you could get better prices for young and nice girls, I am really happy for you. I cannot. I am just saying what I am quoted all the time on Thaifriendly and tinder freelancers for short time. 90% of girls wont accept long time , doesnt matter how much offered. I am talking about my experiences about online girls and freelancers in night clubs. Didnt try rawai and Kamala bar scenes. Dont know prices there. And these prices for Phuket.dont know situation in pattaya. And my post about girls 7+ , not chubby and has a decent face. If you can accept older ones , yeah , cheaper prices possible.
@walkaboutboyz
Bars and gogos are money trap in Phuket IMO.prices skyrocketed here. Many girls even won't leave bar, because they just make money from drinks. Lady drinks 220 baht, and they prefer to stay at bar and being a drink sl*t. Unfortunately many newbies just keep buying LDs by hoping girls will come with them. But usually they won’t. I didn't try gogos in Phuket but Another punter wrote in Phuket topic, he paid 15 k bar fine for 5 days and also expected to pay 15 k for girl for 5 days /24 hours. So total damage 30k for 5 days. Of course everybody has their own budget, but this is really not for me.
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[QUOTE=KievFreak;2686847]Why you defend these girls so aggressively? Unless you have bar business in Phuket, there is really no sense about it. If you could get better prices for young and nice girls, I am really happy for you. I cannot. I am just saying what I am quoted all the time on Thaifriendly and tinder freelancers for short time. 90% of girls wont accept long time , doesnt matter how much offered. I am talking about my experiences about online girls and freelancers in night clubs. Didnt try rawai and Kamala bar scenes. Dont know prices there. And these prices for Phuket.dont know situation in pattaya. And my post about girls 7+ , not chubby and has a decent face. If you can accept older ones , yeah , cheaper prices possible.[/QUOTE]I'm not defending anyone, and I have no interest in bars.
But what you are putting out there about Phuket prices and availability across multiple forums (Phuket and now Pattaya) is wrong.
You are branding all of Phuket with your poor experiences in one part of Patong, Bangla Road and with ThaiFriendly and Tinder, and making that out to be the situation everywhere in Phuket. Only when challenged do you back down and specify things a little more.
If you don't like your experiences you have had in Phuket, then fine, no problem, but please stop promoting that what you have had is the norm in Phuket, its not, not even close.
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[QUOTE=KievFreak;2686847]I didn't try gogos in Phuket but Another punter wrote in Phuket topic, he paid 15 k bar fine for 5 days and also expected to pay 15 k for girl for 5 days /24 hours. So total damage 30k for 5 days. Of course everybody has their own budget, but this is really not for me.[/QUOTE]There have always been guys doing these kind of stuff, even in Pattaya. But it doesn't mean it is the norm to pay these prices. I don't know the situation in Phuket right now, but maybe you should stop trying Thaifriendly or Tinder and go meet the girls directly in the bars instead.
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Just my luck
Was waiting for the USA To drop the requirement for the covid test for getting back into the country. But in the last few days I decided to just take the trip and if I get stuck in Thailand because of a positive covid test then so be it. So I began looking at dates and flights and discovered something unusual. It does not matter if I book the flight for two days from now or two weeks from now flights from Houston to Bangkok are the same price. So I started looking at May 2nd as a good date for leaving Houston and arriving on May 3rd in Bangkok. But then I find out since the rules are changing I cannot even apply for Thailand pass until the 29th of April. Just my luck.
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Yeah, who would have thought Thailand would outdo the United States in terms of getting things back to normal.
Quite frankly I was shocked that the Thai government basically said, screw this, we're opening back up fully with little to no restrictions on May 1st. At the rate they were going, I would have thought nothing would have changed until towards the end of the year.
I do believe this will finally be the so called "game changer" in terms of reinvigorating tourism to Thailand, at least until there are no restrictions. But May 1st, as long are you are fully vaccinated, no more testing whatsoever required (only self test recommended if needed). For those not vaccinated, all they need to do to avoid the quarantine and testing in country, is to test negative no more than 72 hours before flight. That's as good as it gets.
Masks are still required of course, but I figure there's some leeway with that in Pattaya outside of businesses (your mileage may vary).
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2689812]For those not vaccinated, all they need to do to avoid the quarantine and testing in country, is to test negative no more than 72 hours before flight. That's as good as it gets.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I had not seen that. Last I saw when this was announced the other day is that nonvaxed have to quarantine 5 days and everyone has to have 10K insurance.
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2689812]Yeah, who would have thought Thailand would outdo the United States in terms of getting things back to normal..[/QUOTE]Just remember, its not Thailand greeting you before you board the flight. Its the airline and their rules you have to follow. And for those flying from the USA and Canada, remember that you are not flying into Thailand on your original carrier but a foreign carrier and it is their rules you have to follow when you go to board that flight.
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2689812]Yeah, who would have thought Thailand would outdo the United States in terms of getting things back to normal.
Quite frankly I was shocked that the Thai government basically said, screw this, we're opening back up fully with little to no restrictions on May 1st. At the rate they were going, I would have thought nothing would have changed until towards the end of the year.
I do believe this will finally be the so called "game changer" in terms of reinvigorating tourism to Thailand, at least until there are no restrictions. But May 1st, as long are you are fully vaccinated, no more testing whatsoever required (only self test recommended if needed). For those not vaccinated, all they need to do to avoid the quarantine and testing in country, is to test negative no more than 72 hours before flight. That's as good as it gets..[/QUOTE]In the Pattaya vids I have seen over the past couple weeks, very few people are wearing masks as they walk around town and neither are the girls standing on the street outside their bars.
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[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2689698]...So I started looking at May 2nd as a good date for leaving Houston and arriving on May 3rd in Bangkok. But then I find out since the rules are changing I cannot even apply for Thailand pass until the 29th of April. Just my luck.[/QUOTE]Typical Thai action. Declare May 1 the date of change but not provide a reasonable way for anybody to arrive until well after May 1.
One Thai Pass problem from January is that my first choice COVID insurance company refused to cover me and their automated rejection didn't state why. I applied to another company and was quickly accepted. Nothing is certain about Thai Pass until you actually have it in hand.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2690649]In the Pattaya vids I have seen over the past couple weeks, very few people are wearing masks as they walk around town and neither are the girls standing on the street outside their bars.[/QUOTE]I didn't get to Pattaya in my recent trip, but people in several other areas were wearing masks consistently until they got seated at their restaurant. I'd estimate 95% wearing masks on BTS / MRT and airports, 90% in malls and stores, 80% on streets away from red light districts, 20% on streets in red light districts, and 10% in restaurants. Farang wore masks less than Thai.
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Thailand Pass Worked
I tried applying in the opening minutes of the new Thailand Pass. Needless to say the first few hours did not go well. It was about 2 and one half hours into the process when I finally got a popup with a code and a notice saying I should have my pas in "3 to 5 days". I used the code to check my status and that screen said "48 hours". Three hours after getting the popup I received an official email confirming my application. About 13 hours from receiving the email I received another email with my approved Thailand Pass QR code. I am hearing that people applying now are receiving there QR code much faster.
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Just not worth it
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2691466]I tried applying in the opening minutes of the new Thailand Pass. Needless to say the first few hours did not go well. It was about 2 and one half hours into the process when I finally got a popup with a code and a notice saying I should have my pas in "3 to 5 days". I used the code to check my status and that screen said "48 hours". Three hours after getting the popup I received an official email confirming my application. About 13 hours from receiving the email I received another email with my approved Thailand Pass QR code. I am hearing that people applying now are receiving there QR code much faster.[/QUOTE]When so many other places will not require such BS.
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The country leaders of Thailand are playing it safe like always their practice is to watch and follow what other countries do even then they most likely after reading everything stand around scratching their heads as the reason why it is turtle slow.
The pressure is on within their ranks sure it is one day this the next something else but the proposal has been submitted to end two days ago to review the request to end it all by June 1st, personally, I think it might even happen?
Predictable, prior to Songkran they throw it out that after the numbers should be in the 50,000 range this is classic Thailand to throw a high number out if it isn't reached then leaders all look good, guys like Anutin can stand up and claim they got a handle of things that covid is no match for their medical system. Since Songkran, the rate has dropped to 15,000 a day from 25,000 so are we headed to opening?
Tomorrow it will be May 1st, the next meeting in two weeks by cabinet cross your fingers?
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There needs to be some common sense
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2691623]The country leaders of Thailand are playing it safe like always their practice is to watch and follow what other countries do even then they most likely after reading everything stand around scratching their heads as the reason why it is turtle slow.
The pressure is on within their ranks sure it is one day this the next something else but the proposal has been submitted to end two days ago to review the request to end it all by June 1st, personally, I think it might even happen?
Predictable, prior to Songkran they throw it out that after the numbers should be in the 50,000 range this is classic Thailand to throw a high number out if it isn't reached then leaders all look good, guys like Anutin can stand up and claim they got a handle of things that covid is no match for their medical system. Since Songkran, the rate has dropped to 15,000 a day from 25,000 so are we headed to opening?
Tomorrow it will be May 1st, the next meeting in two weeks by cabinet cross your fingers?[/QUOTE]The good vaccines have their benefits in that they lower the chance of sever illness and death. If you get the vaccine that is your choice. That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it. By the way I got the J&J vaccine in April 2021. Since it was getting close to the one year mark and some countries consider you unvaccinated if you haven't had a booster after so many months I went ahead and received the Phizer shot as the booster. Ran a fever the first night and was tired a couple of days but was ok after that.
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I disagree that's not it.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2691648]The good vaccines have their benefits in that they lower the chance of sever illness and death. If you get the vaccine that is your choice. That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it. By the way I got the J&J vaccine in April 2021. Since it was getting close to the one year mark and some countries consider you unvaccinated if you haven't had a booster after so many months I went ahead and received the Phizer shot as the booster. Ran a fever the first night and was tired a couple of days but was ok after that.[/QUOTE]That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it.
The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.
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Good point but consider this
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The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.[/QUOTE]In most cases I would agree with you. But we are talking about Thailand, which is still having 10 to 20 thousand new cases a day. Considering reported cases are only a small percentage of actual cases (lots of asymptomatic cases with omichron), the major concern is not unvaccinated tourist adding to the spread, but the unvaccinated getting sick and ending up in the hospital. Anyone coming to Thailand at this time needs to be aware that the virus is still very active in Thailand. Even the vaccinated is taking a risk. That said, I will be there May 3rd with a bag full of masks looking for a good time. LOL.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2691651]That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it.
The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.[/QUOTE]Except I disagree. That is not it. I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated, but I have had experience.
While me and other friends and family members have been stomping all over South and Central America and the Caribbean with no vaccine and no masks and as of late been on planes all around the USA with no vaccine and no mask and have not contracted any virus, I have had other fully vaccinated friends and family members that barely left the house and got the disease. Most said it was the worst 2 weeks of their life although they were not hospitalized.
And what exactly is the treatment for someone that is hospitalized? Last I heard was when they were only sticking tubes down the patients' throats and most of them did not make it home from that anyway.
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It is said that there are exceptions to every rule
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691880]Except I disagree. That is not it. I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated, but I have had experience.
While me and other friends and family members have been stomping all over South and Central America and the Caribbean with no vaccine and no masks and as of late been on planes all around the USA with no vaccine and no mask and have not contracted any virus, I have had other fully vaccinated friends and family members that barely left the house and got the disease. Most said it was the worst 2 weeks of their life although they were not hospitalized.
And what exactly is the treatment for someone that is hospitalized? Last I heard was when they were only sticking tubes down the patients' throats and most of them did not make it home from that anyway.[/QUOTE]So let's hope you and your friends continue to beat the odds, but when the wheel turns to "oo" , let's hope God or if you are here, Buddha has mercy on why'all.
Oh, and the Pfizer pill is a treatment BEFORE you get into a hospital. The pill is Paxlovid:
Pfizer said safety data in the trial was consistent with previous studies, which had shown the pills to be nearly 90% effective at preventing hospitalization or death in COVID patients at high risk of severe illness when taken for five days shortly after symptom onset.
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It messes with their lonely guy strategy
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2692426]Yeah it's ridiculous.
I always tell them that I usually only take the same girl once, which is usually true, and might come back for the other girls in bar. If they get a bad attitude I just pay my check bin and move onto another bar.[/QUOTE]I know a few fellow punters whose main strategy for getting BBBF+CIP with the girls is to work on the reality of their general unattractiveness and present themselves as shy losers in the sexual arena at home and abroad, that they just arrived in Thailand, it's been a very long time since they got laid in their home country, not sure how things work around here, gee it would be great and so lucky if they found a beautiful lady like you I could see while I am here, blah blah blah.
The girl might and often does conclude, yep, he is damn unattractive, probably has not had sex with anyone in a long time (therefore little or no chance of having HIV or any other STI) and certainly not with a girl as young and hot as me and if I rock his world in bed like he has likely never experienced I will be his go-to girl throughout his entire stay. Besides, she might conclude, not many other girls would agree to have any kind of sex with this troll much less Real Sex but I am special and can deal with it.
Therefore, his being seen trotting around multiple girls from that and other nearby bars tends to contradict that little scenario strategy. Who knows what the first and subsequent bare back girls will say to everyone else about his "unfortunate but sexually safe" profile once they realize they've been fooled.
Those are the guys I know who are terrified to be seen by previous ladies with other ladies and would never take another girl from the same bar.
The funny part is the guys who can and do get away with presenting themselves that way and have the looks to make it believable get more BBFS+CIP with more new and different girls in two weeks than I do in 6 months! LOL. So any girls who think fucking guys like that is in any way safer for them in terms of risk of disease could not be more wrong.