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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
I rushed back to the room, opened the box, and gave her the first pill with some water. I put the other pill into her pants' pocket and told her not to forget to take it at 1am. She said that if she died from taking the pills then it would be my fault. I said yeah, and if you get pregnant? She said then her mom would kill her. I said so either way you die. Just don't forget to take the other pill later. I walked her to the bus stop then I went for a misto and acai.[/QUOTE]
Great story, just curious, did you ask your girl the last time she had her period? Was it 2 days ago, a week ago or 3 weeks ago?
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[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Amerioca.net I know years back was very popular but now I find no review about them!
Thank for the help[/QUOTE]
I rented one of their apartments my last trip in October 2008. They have a nice stock of 1,2,3 bedroom and penthouse apts. Prices are a bit cheaper than a hotel room. Don and Ken, the owners, are honest and are always very accessible.
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Amerioca
[QUOTE=Bunda Man]I rented one of their apartments my last trip in October 2008. They have a nice stock of 1,2,3 bedroom and penthouse apts. Prices are a bit cheaper than a hotel room. Don and Ken, the owners, are honest and are always very accessible.[/QUOTE]
Yes I am renting with them in may, so I will make a report
when I arrive.
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Condoms
I will be bringing my own durex but
what brands that can be bought in Rio are safe to use?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I will be bringing my own durex but
what brands that can be bought in Rio are safe to use?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I use Preserv and prefer them to many brands back home.
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Casa Branca - a potential replacement for HELP?
I´m down here in Rio; enjoying the sand, sun, & bundas again. I personally hate HELP and I hope that it not only gets shut down but burns to the ground. I realize that I´m in the minority. Anyway, I was yaking with a hot little number at Monte Carlo who apparently plys her trade at HELP after hours. We got to talking about HELP closing down and she said that there are already venues prepared to pick up the slack. She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa. Just wondering.
BTW - MC and 4X4 have some good talent at this time. It´s always like a party at 4X4 and, though it´s much smaller, MC has a few aspiring porn stars. I´m going back for more.
- DSK
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Casa Branca
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa.[/QUOTE]
Avenida Pennsylvania NW, 1600.
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Avenida Pennsylvania
Yes, very amusing. Actually, when she mentioned a "Casa Branca" the first image that popped in my head was the Copacabana Palace. Maybe there´s a bar that is attached to the hotel that GDPs meet at now. Who knows. I´m more of a Termas guy anyway.
After a vigorous round of bed hopping last night and hitting the academia & praia this morning I´m rather drained. Have to suck it up .... will probably head back to MC tonight and maybe tour the scene around Ave. P. Isabel later.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Yes, very amusing. Actually, when she mentioned a "Casa Branca" the first image that popped in my head was the Copacabana Palace...[/QUOTE]
I've been thinking of what she meant with this place "Casa Branca" and I have absolutely no idea at all.
(The only GP-place I heard about that's called Casa Branca was a small ho-house in the outskirt of Palmas. Four girls attending.)
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[QUOTE=Sperto]I've been thinking of what she meant with this place "Casa Branca" and I have absolutely no idea at all.
(The only GP-place I heard about that's called Casa Branca was a small ho-house in the outskirt of Palmas. Four girls attending.)[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm totally lost. But can it be Casa blanka she said? That shall be some new place. Haven't been there tho.
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Casablanca
There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.
I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.
I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized.[/QUOTE]"Gringoized" Did you expected something else on a bar/club in copa.
Its on the same street as the Rio internationel Porto bay right? I will try it tonight and see what it is.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]I´m down here in Rio; enjoying the sand, sun, & bundas again. I personally hate HELP and I hope that it not only gets shut down but burns to the ground. I realize that I´m in the minority. Anyway, I was yaking with a hot little number at Monte Carlo who apparently plys her trade at HELP after hours. We got to talking about HELP closing down and she said that there are already venues prepared to pick up the slack. She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa. Just wondering.
- DSK[/QUOTE]
You sure she didn't say Asa Branca, which is in Lapa
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Tonight at Solarium
Went to Solarium tonight at around 7pm and had an awesome time. The location is fairly easy to get to from the beach hotels near the lagoon behind the beaches. The taxi cost me R$10. When you get there, they explain the prices to you (R$150 cash for the girl, the rest can be on credit cards for a R$25 fee). You get a locker key and change into a robe and sandals. You don't carry cash (it's in the locker), and flash the key number when you want to pay for any service or drinks. First I got a full hour massage for R$100. It was better than some I've had on the beaches or from professional masseuses in the USD.
After my massage, I headed upstairs to to the club area where there seemed to be an endless sea of women...probably 30+....many were absolutely stunning. The night before I went to 4x4 downtown, and the girls where not nearly as attractive...lots of tattoos, smoking, etc. I did not partake. The Solarium girls where more like the girls you see on Ipanema beach. I bought a bottled water, then I caught the eye of one hottie. I asked her name (Ariel), and immediately started making out with her like a girlfriend. We must have kissed for 10 minutes on the dance floor, and she even checked my cock a few time. She was a solid "9"....perfect ass, brown hair, brown eyes, lightly tanned skin...fake C cups, but they were well done. If it were not for the fake knockers, I'd say she was a "10".
Then we went upstairs....the told me the prices (I speak Spanish, but understanding enough Portuguese to get by) , and I waited in the cabana. After 10 minutes, she showed up in a school uniform skirt and tux top. We continued to make out....FDK'ing for another few minutes...got naked..then she gave me a full on BBBJ, with lots of teasing the head, and even licking my balls.
She put the condom on. Then we moved to full on cowgirl and finished doggie style. She cleaned me up...we had some nice kisses and cuddling, then she started playing with my cock again....first a HJ to get me hard, then another BBBJ. I was wiped from a long day at the beach, so after about 10 minutes, I stopped her and we just kissed and cuddled for a while longer, the she gave me a foot massage while we talked as best as we could.
I really wanted to cum again, and she did everything she could to encourage it, but it just wasn't in the cards tonight.
The phone rang after 40 minutes, and she cleaned up....a joked a while longer, then she kissed me goodbye.... Best GFE I've had on 5 continents.
I headed for the exit.... the charge was R$150 cash for the girl, and R$350 on my credit card for the massage, entrance, room, etc. I tipped R$20 on my way out. All up R$500 for a relaxing evening with a hour long massage and some great sex.....which equates to less than $250USD. I'm going to try and go again tomorrow before my evening flight. They open at 4pm Sundays.
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Asa Branca
[QUOTE=Flexinbk]You sure she didn't say Asa Branca, which is in Lapa[/QUOTE]
I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.
I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.
- DSK
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I think he´s got it!
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.
I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized.[/QUOTE]
ET - I think that´s the place she was talking about. I remember her mentioning it was at or along the street of Duvier. She balked at the idea of working at Balcony or MP and I don´t blame her.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.
I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.
- DSK[/QUOTE]
That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations? How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..
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Hi Flexinbk. I suspect you probably know the answers to these, but for the benefit of the board . . .
[QUOTE=Flexinbk]That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations?[/quote]
Cheap as sh*t. Or use the Ibis on Praca Tiradentes, next door to Lapa, as I have, reasonable for a hotel and visitor-friendly.
[quote]How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..[/QUOTE]
I only use buses to Lapa - plenty of them, like the 464 which then continues on to VM. A taxi would be about 18R (I'll look up the average rate in Ruas and correct this if I'm wrong).
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Lapa
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.
I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.
- DSK[/QUOTE]
Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.
ryjer
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Lapa!!
[QUOTE=Flexinbk]That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations? How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..[/QUOTE]
Lapa has a lot of bare-bones accomodations, too low budget even for me - so I´ve never tried any of them. Lapa can be reached via the metro (get off at Cinelandia). And there are frequent buses that connect with Copa. Almost any bus that heads to downtown or the rodoviaria wil pass by Lapa. I suppose a taxi should run around R$15-20, maybe less if you get a driver that´s honest enough to use the meter.
I usually stay in the neighborhood of Catete or Gloria, which are both within walking distance of Lapa. The best hotels are the Hotel Gloria and the Hotel Florida (there´s another good one that escapes my mind at the moment). There are several low cost hotels that aren´t good for hosting guests but fine if you just want a place to crash. There is a decent love hotel called the Hotel Diamond and also Hotel Love Time is close by. There are really cheap "per hour" dives were you can take your new found friend such as the Motel Ouro Preto. Quite a few street walkers plying their trade at night. Half of them are most definitely "bonecas". Perhaps I should also mention that Termas Rio Antigo is in the same area. If they´d ever staff that place with hot chicks it would be a great Termas.
I don´t think most tourists would want to spend their vacation in these parts of town though.
That´s my take on it - DSK
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Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Can agree on it dosent seems dangerous area. I have been there only some few times and its a good area to go for drinks. Epsecially Rio Scenario i like it...
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Can agree on it dosent seems dangerous area. [/QUOTE]
It is very easy to get your pockets picked in Lapa. The thieves are organized and will hit you on both sides and be gone with your stuff before you even realize it.
And the area behind Pizzaria Guanabara, and up around the famous steps of Lapa, is definitely dangerous after dark.
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Flamengo/Gloria/Catete
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Actually that part of town isn´t the Centro but you go through it on the way to Centro (where 4X4, T-65, etc. is located).
Anyway, I´ve never stayed at Hotel Florida but I think their prices are usually around US$100 a night. Hotel Gloria is a bit more - can´t remember the price because it´s been a while since I´ve stayed there. Depending on exchange rates or current specials it can be a bit cheaper or quite pricey.
I remembered the name of the other hotel as I walked past it last night: it´s the Hotel Imperial. Last time I checked with them they were charging 140 Reais per night (less on weekends). It´s on the Rua do Catete and the Catete metro stop is only 150 meters away, plus there´s a branch of HSBC bank just a few doors down where you can draw out more dinheiro. Brazil is dealing with inflation so it seems that prices for everything has gotten higher & higher.
Keep in mind that if you speak with the management directly you can often get a significant discount off of the posted price. The place I stay at (which I´ll decline to mention) has a posted price of 120 Reais per night but I usually only pay 70 to 80 Reais. Away from the tourist areas and in other parts of Brazil this is common practice. I hope your Portuguese is pretty good.
Unfortunately I only have a couple of days left in Brazil and then I´ll turn my sights to the lovely beavers of Canada. Them French-Canadian chicks are something else. But tonight I´ll be making a stop at Quatro por Quatro.
- DSK
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What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.
Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.
Thanks guys
Vaughn
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.
Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.
Thanks guys
Vaughn[/QUOTE]
It really depends what you want. Tijuca is nice. Very non-touristy. Some of it is walking distance to VM. No beach though. And you need Porto to check the ads and get an apartment at knock-down rates.
Botogogo is a lovely area, very little crime and hardly any tourists. But it's not cheap. Advantage is you can book it thru the same agents that rent Copa apartments. Great for cinemas (3 arthouse, 2 multiplex), trendy bars and so on. Good shopping. Easy transport into town or Copa via Metro or buses. Very little gdp.
I think a lot of other places are either very expensive, like Botanico and Leblon, or cheerfully falling to bits, like Lapa and Catete.
You can also rent impressive places in Santa Teresa - sort of upmarket backpacker territory - but you have to navigate dodgy areas getting into town.
Across the water Niteroi is nice, non-touristy, pretty safe if you stay in the main areas, and reasonable amount of p4p.
But to be honest, if you know Rio, you know these options, and if you don't, the easiest non-touristy, reasonably prices area without [i]too[/i] much crime is Centro. It's where quite a few mongers base themselves after tiring of the Copa-Ipanema merry-go-round. You'll probably need basic Porto again to get an apartment, but you can get a GF hotel at a lot less than Copa, and have p4p on your doorstep as well.
As Devilspinkick says, turning up on the doorstep gives you lots of negotiating power that booking from afar doesn't. If necessary, book into a hostel or cheap hotel for a night or two so you can look at your options (this is the way a lot of Brasilians do it when visiting Rio).
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Casas De Massagem And Termas In Centro, R$ 10-85. Updated March 2009!
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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I rated them A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average.
Cabin:
A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.
B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.
C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.
Service:
A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best in the sex-act. Allows multiple pops.
B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.
C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.
Standard (on the girls):
A= Better than average, sometimes with some stunners.
B= Average standard.
C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions.
Number:
The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there.
WV (Worth a Visit):
A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.
B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something you’ll like.
C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.
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Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 10-85.
1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Apto 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2622 (old 3330): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 50/20 min, R$ 75/40 min, R$ 95/60 min
- Apto 1839: Cabin=A, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
- Apto 1833: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 1804: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min
- Apto 1701 (old 1703): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 110/60 min
- Apto 1829: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min
3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Apto 210: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
4. Rua México 148:
- Apto 804: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min
5. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:
- Apto 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min
6. Rua Santa Lucia 405:
- Apto 429: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=C; WV=C
R$ 30/1 pop no time
7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=25, WV=B
R$ 1/min
8. Rua da Carioca 40: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min
9. Rua Uruguaiana 24: 5 floors.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=30, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/20 min
10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:
- Apto 911: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Apto 707: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 20/1 pop no time
11. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 5 floors.
Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=60, WV=A
R$ 1/min
12. Rua Buenos Aires 93:
- Apto 513: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
13. Rua Buenos Aires 113: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=C
R$ 1/min
14. Travessa do Ouvidor 37: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 40/20 min, R$ 60/30 min
15. Rua da Quitanda 81 (Club Gatinha): Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/40 min, R$ 120/60 min
16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Apto 1005: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=B
R$ 40/30 min, R$ 60/60 min
- Apto 817: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 80/60 min
17. Avenida Presidente Vargas 482:
- Apto 914: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/60 min (incl massage+HJ, BJ cost +R$ 20, no penetration)
18. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=15, WV=C
R$ 40/40 min, R$ 60/60 min
19. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
20. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=7, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
21. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=10, WV=B
R$ 15/15 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
22. Rua do Acre 61 (Whiskeria Aquarius): Number=20, WV=B
R$ 70/20 min, R$ 90/30 min, R$ 110/40 min, R$ 130/60 min. (Cheaper before 4PM).
23. Praca Mauá, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 120/60 min.
24. Praca Mauá, Escandinavia: Stripclub. WV=B
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* Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.
Cabin=B and C, Service=C (some B), Standard=(A-)C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=A
Gems to be found.
R$ 25/30 min, R$ 1/condom
Some casas with better cabins will cost you R$ 2 more.
Hotel Canário (motel)=R$ 25/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 40-60/2 hs at Canário.
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My personal choice.
Besides of being a big VM-fan I obviously do a lot of mongering in Centro. My favourite bottom-low place for a cheap quickie is Rua Buenos Aires 85 (list no: 11). I almost always manages to find a nice girl there.
When I feel the need for a session in a relaxed and clean environment I usually choose one of the Av Rio Branco casas (list no: 1 and 2).
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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.
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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.
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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.
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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF
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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.
Cheers
Sperto
P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)!
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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As always, you've outdone yourself. You are truly a fountain of knowledge. To further acknowledge your exploits, I will be making the rounds in Centro next Monday afternoon. Sorry you can't be there, but I'll make you proud........
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I hear all the criticism from some of you guys and it has given me some pause in this, but ultimately, I know I am right in my statements about her. There are really only 2 people on the planet that know all the details of what happened between this girl and myself. It is easy to criticize when you were not directly involved and when you do not know all of the facts. I don’t blame anyone that has written critically about my actions. I welcome the dialog and it does make me think about all this.[/QUOTE]
Here's a contact in Brazil that may offer you some info. I know him from another forum. His name is Jose Santiago, [url]www.lawofficeinbrazil.com[/url]
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no Portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Lapa is surely one of the most interesting area in Rio for me. I was in Rio about 2 months ago and went to Lapa at least 5x during my 10night visit. The Bars are lovely, people are nice, you find music of any taste (Rock, Latin, Oldies etc.). Though I speak only a few portuguese words, I came along very well with the local people and the bartenders. I ended up one night Bar-hoping with 2 nice Brazilian non GDP (I think they were secretaries) and had a wonderful night with them (no sex, just having fun, flirting and laughing). Definitely a place to visit in Rio. I felt save all the time in Lapa.
Regards,
Vandeta
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Centro Map-Thank you
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.
Ace
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Upcoming Trip
I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.
I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.
Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!
I will definitely return the favor for any information.
Thanks.
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Is Help Closed Yet or Still Open?
Is Help Closed Yet or Still Open?
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[QUOTE=Acenva][QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.
Ace[/QUOTE]My buddie, I know you will. When I grow up can I be your wingman?
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Compliments for Sperto
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.
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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.
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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.
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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF
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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.
Cheers,
Sperto
P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)![/QUOTE]I joined last night so that I could search for information on Centro and Vila Mimosa (yea, I'm a bottom fisher, a sturgeon of sorts). Indeed, I spent a few hours collecting pearls of wisdom, including your terrific maps.
Then I log on today to find this post pulling it all together. Whatever. I'm happy.
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Bars for GDP girls in Copa
Sperto great report. Thank you.
Does anyone else know of any smaller, quieter bars in the Copa area where you can pick up a GDP girl?
Thanks
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Poonani in Rio, the Mecca
Many thanks to Sperto & Bubba Boy. Invaluable information.
Observations, opinions & recommendations:
• Print out Sperto’s & Bubba Boys maps & lists, take with you.
• Learn some Portuguese. You’re in their country, try to speak their language. If you have remedial Spanish skills it is helpful.
• Drink domestic beer (Skol, Brahma etc.), cheaper easier & you know what’s in your drink.
• Know your surroundings, the taxis tend to go in circles. Intentional or not you’ll save yourself time & money by barking out where to go if you know it.
•C arry hotel business card w/ you all times, taxi drivers don’t always know location by hotel name.
• Addresses & street signs very accurate in Rio, print out addresses of your destinations. When you are walking the locations are easy to find.
• Always, always question your bill, they will tack on extra s—t as habit (for example, nice restaurant in Recreio dos Bandeirantes- double charged me, my partner caught it, took 10 minutes of arguing and pointing at the prices on the menu to get the bill correct)
• Bring small notepad & pen everywhere, excellent for communications, negotiations & ph. #’s!
• Use this notepad at every establishment you have any doubt about pricing. Ask the front desk to write down all options, duration, room choices and drink prices. We started this ½ way thru the trip & clarity was achieved. No confusion, no hassle.
• Don’t recommend tipping, doesn’t seem customary, might even laugh at you, small change may be, IMHO.
Day 1: (Friday)
Arrive at airport 9am. Went straight to the booths for taxi, pay US $, easy no haggle. Staying at hotel Ibis R D J, Centro. Reserved rooms on web site by credit card: [url]http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/hotel-5534-ibis-Rio-de-janeiro-centro/index.shtml[/url]
Walking distance to 4X4, T 502 etc.
Pay cash in advance (seemed weird but no problem) 120R per night. Nice rooms. Good breakfast, friendly English speaking hotel staff.
*Definitely girl friendly, only one at a time though (no festas)
Need reaies, vitamins & sustenance: walk down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha to corner of Ave Rio Branco. Large underground mall SW corner, just past open square. Cambio: down escalator (2. 15R=1$). Back up escalator east exit, on Rio Branco: large drogaria. Helpful in the back, show qty and cost on computer, hassle free vitamin purchase.
Back to hotel- money in safe. 200R in money belt, 200R in shoe under gel foot pad, 200R in wallet. Ready for food and poonani. Back down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha, great Kilo Restaurant (I think name is Poa? ) south (right) side of street. 2 kilos of meet, 2 beers, 25 or so R’s.
It’s 1pm now. T 502 & 4X4 supposed to be open. Midget door on metal gate is open at 502. Crawl thru. They tell us no abrir until 2pm. Bulls—t. I’m horney. Across the street to 4X4. Whiskeria won’t open till 4pm, "but you can go into Terma". Don’t want to go thru rigmarole of putting a robe on if only 2 skrags in there. Back to T502. Sit out front chain smoking.
T502:2pm, abrir! Pay entrance (all prices listed on wall) get our entry drinks. A few garotas. Approached by one. Can’t figure us out. Broken, sloppy Porto mixed w/ Spanish. These gringos are green! No mind. She laughs, brings amigas over. Pointing at us laughing that we can’t speak any porto. We laugh more than them, ice broken. Nice quality. Start eyeballin’ plan C & B. Waiting for plan A to show up. A group sits with us, getting wasted together. One is a dark modelo, plan A in the sights. One makin’ fun of my partner, gonna be his grudge f---.
Going up: Grudge f--- partner up 1st. Front desk hacks him for the suite room. Did not realize, probably did not care. (you pay cash on the way up for room? Did not catch that in guides) I’m next. They try to charge 180ishR. Borracho courage. "F. That, muito dinheiro! " Price backed down to 130ishR for the normal room. Wait! This is the Mecca of culo & I forgot to negotiate ahead! Idioto. No probel. Excellent BBBJ, full service and just like the dessert plate at a fine restaurant after dinner, the culo is spread open and offered up without solicitation. I love this country!
Back down stairs, party and drink some more with our Garotas. Plan for a trip to Copa and festa manana. I negotiate 300R, partners get theirs down to 200R all day and night. I’m week for the culo. Get ph #’s and bail. No intention of filling my pockets with ice cubes when I go to the North pole. Just testing the water. Plan D, just in case.
Walk across the street, check out 4X4 Whiskeria. Quality-a-plenty. Worth the cover to check it out. Did not partake.
Get dinner, revitalize and get a Taxi to Florida & Escandinavia. Get there 11ish.
Florida 1st: Pay cover, upstairs and oh nooooo: sausage fest, pickle party! (must be a ship in) Friggen dudes dancin’ on the catwalk, not appealing. React quickly, grab one of the few available garotas. Ugly mug, dark but sweet bunda. Don’t care. To the cabin. Descent facilities from what I remember. Prices in guide accurate. They give you a magnetic card to track your drinks. Watch that card. Garota could walk off w/ it and by a round for the sailors. Special thanks: to my partners for sitting in there while I conducted business. They did not have many choices, too many sausages, not enough tacos. Bad ratio. Let’s try next door.
Escandinavia: a sad little place. Same problem, sea of trouser trouts. Have to make a move. Spot a spinner, peroxide blonde. OK I’ll go light this round. She’s jiggen around like a wack job. Get closer, sunken cheeks. . Crackhead. Oh well, probably get cheaper rate. Closer, whoa, really cheap. Bring her over to our table, now the partners are thoroughly grossed out. They say let’s get outa here! Wait, have to close the deal. How does it work here? F-it, "toda a noite? E’ possivel? Don’t remember discussing quanto. Vamos to my hotel? Partners are cringing. But. All night excellent service, culos, bbbj’s, swallow. Wacked is good! Wake up in morning for last round, sober now. "I have to go to work". Give 200R for excellent service, too much but she had no purse, no cell phone and probably doesn’t work very often. She could not figure out how to get to the lobby and get a cab, had to walk her down, front desk shaking their heads I’m sure. F-them.
Day 2, (Saturday)
Centro Termas closed. It’s VM day!
Need good food. East from hotel on R. Da Carioco/ R. Frei Caneca toward Praca da Republica turn left on 3rd or 4th street. A lot of outdoor places, great food, treated us well. Closed Sunday daytime and I assume holidays.
VM: This is Mogadishu meets Fallujah. Black hawk down. My style. Now we’re talkin’. Arrive 2pm, a little early, not yet hoppin’ but some Garotas. Start slammin’ Skols, have to get primed. Partner is drinkin vodka on the rocks, what’s in the ice? Even worse, what’s the clear liquid in the vodka bottle on the shelf? Start walking down all the indoor alleys. The one with the loop most active. All the people are cool to us. Good times. Settle on a place with qty of garotas. Questionable quality. We all grab one. Cost: 20ish R. Cabins are not as bad as described by some, but this aint the Hilton for sure. No ceiling? I can hear moaning next door. One partner barks "quit your moaning". This is entertainment but no chance of finishing. Next place. Girls are coming to work it’s 6-7-8pm, can’t remember. We settle into another place. Ugly skrag sits next to me, partners cringing. I go to take her up to gross them out, she asks for cinquenta R on the way up a tiny stair case. Not worth $23 for the effect. Looking at her going up the stairs grosses me out. Back down. Let’s go. Where is vodka drinking partner? Heaving in the toilet. Yikes! Man down. We’re in Fallujah after dark with a wounded partner. Took one to the stomach (too much clear liquid from the vodka bottle). Carry him out on our shoulders looking for a friendly APC (yellow cab w/ blue stripe and a meter that works). 4 cabs out front, all outa service, drivers drinking and f---ing. Stumble down R. Lopez de Sousa. No taxis! Another block or so find a taxi. We get out in one piece! Now that was friggen fun. I recommend this experience.
Midnight or so: Back to Florida for a solo mission to get an all nighter. Jumped by ugly face. Toda a noite for 200R + 50R bar fine. I am truly week for the culo, should have hacked her to 150R. Whatever, good all night activity and did not have to watch her with one eye open, good screening the night before determined as descent garota. Asked for taxi money in morning. "That’s all I got girl". Laughed and left.
Day 3 (Sunday)
Centro Termas closed again.
It’s Copa day. Have to get some legitimization photos. Wonder on the beach. Touts are annoying. Simple "nao, nao! " When that doesn’t work use the last resort "spreken ze duetch? " always works. Hang around Atlatntica restaurants till Help opens.
Help: got there early around 11pm or so. No matter, quality-a-plenty! Wow, so much poontang. Reasonable priced drinks, took awhile to figure out the drink ticket thing. This is a smorgasbord of garotas. All sizes all shapes. A little leary of the overpricing rumors. Let’d dig in: find plan C, there’s plan B, and oh yaaa, plan; A- tiny spinner, dark, classy. Rub up to her, starting at 500R. She speaks English. I say "you’re gonna leave me poor". Laughing but won’t budge. My partner sits down with one, she says "300R, if you were ugly I’d charge you 500R". Yes I am ugly. Have to lower my standards if I don’t wanna pay $230. We work the crowd for several hours and have a blast doing it. This place is great! 8’s, 9’s everywhere and it’s Sunday night. It’s getting late, plan C in effect, nice 8ish MILF settles for 260R all night. "you’re staying where? Centro, I ‘ll need Taxi money" she speaks too much English. We haggle to 280R. Chr—t these goratos are tough. We’re looking for a cab and she says "take my friends taxi" I say no and drag her down the street to a legit looking yellow cab. She protests. I say "just get in! " off to a sour start. No worries, make the best of it. She lightens up back in the room. BBBJ, good service, all positions, no culo, nice masturbation on herself to finish me with a visual. I got lucky and good screening helps.
Day 4 (Monday)
Let’s travel! The Beverly Hills of Rio. Rocereio dos Bandeirantes. There’s a Benz dealer on Av das Americas, must be upper class! 70ish R taxi ride from Centro. Cool driver, stopped for a lot of pictures on the way. Got there early so ate at the restaurant down the street. Good food, check your bill as always. Walking distance from Ancora and Paris Café.
Termas Ancora do Recreio: good quality, good quantity but bad attitudes. Stayed for a couple hours drinking, no activity. Give you magnetic swipe wrist band for tracking drinks.
Paris Café: now we’re talking. Strip cub atmosphere. Give you a paper card to mark down your drinks. Loaded, I say loaded with prime poontang dressed slutty. Ya! I love it. Settle on a stunner dark garota w/ short hair, tall, long legs, 8ish. Great attitude. Start drinking shots and get plastered. Partner picks his, another modelo. Head up to cabins. Really nice and big. So. She shoves a towel at the base of the door, cracks the window open and lights up a joint. "Para Voce? " wasted & stupid "sim" now I’m wasted& stoned. Idioto! Could have gone sour, but. . This was my best experience in Rio. She was super fun, all holes, BBBJ. Epic! This is the Mecca!
Day 5 (Tuesday)
Plane leaves at 8pm. Wake up late, check out. Hotel has very secure system for luggage storage. Out to 4X4, we have not been yet! Oh sh—t, everything is closed when we get outside. What the F? We hoof it to 4X4, closed, 502, closed. Is this a holiday? Back to the hotel ask front desk. Verified, holidy. Check Sperto and Bubba Boys lists. Looks like Monte Carlo is open on Sundays. They have to be open today! Not much time left. In the Taxi to Copa.
Monte Carlos: I hate robes! Leave my pantalones on, I’m goin’ commando today. This aint no fasion show and no one wants to see my legs anyway. Upstairs to the bar. Oh sh—t! It’s packed with super modelos, light, dark, blonde, brunette, skinny, big bunda, they got it all! Why the h-ll didn’t we come here before? Bad luck can become good luck. We all settle on our choices. A rare occasion that I get my plan A immediately. She speaks English. 8ish blond. BBBJ, no culo, but no broblem, the service was impeccable. Thank you Sperto and Bubba Boy: a perfect end to a perfect trip.
We will be back!
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[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.
I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.
Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!
I will definitely return the favor for any information.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would love 2 go, but not sure if the time permits.
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Vila Mimosa
It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!
Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.
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Help
hello guys
i know this is the never ending story about helpee... but has any heard anything if the close now on friday or maybe after the weekend? i will ofcourse go and look on friday just to see.
and if they shall close has any talk to the girls where they planing to go? some has said balcony but that place cant them all.
a theory i had is for the olympic commitè is here now and maybe they wanted to close during this period start at 1may and after that they try to keep it closed, or if it reopen they dosent matter until 2016 ;) with they i mean the goverment.
so anyone that has some good info?
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Help
Sorry for double posting just made a discovery. In Bubba report he say in 2006 that a rumor that Help is closing in may that year So this is a fairy tale comming every year I guess.
Then they for sure will not close it is what it is. Rumors
Good night all.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!
Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)
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Vm
[QUOTE=Euro100]yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)[/QUOTE]One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire. Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.
Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun.
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[QUOTE=Acenva]One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire... Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.
Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun....[/QUOTE]No offense guys but how come on vacation go seek a place this out? It sounds a little beyond the pale of what I can tolerate. LOL it sounds so awful, it's almost worth seeing just to see if it's really that bad. I have spoken to several guys who have been there and the descriptions were unbelievable.
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Food for thought
Do you think that if the USA gets to freely travel to Cuba will that present a threat to Brazil in the realm of mongering? It is a shorter plan ride, and some may say no, but I have notice that as of late some Americans have chosen to travel more to DR than Brazil. If Cuba and America become more amicable and Americans have the choice to come and go as they please, do you think that Rio might become less attractive due to distance and prices of the GDP. Just wondering what the forum thinks. Oh by the way this place is Great. The people and the vast wealth of information. Lets look at it from all aspects. Price of the p4p, upto distance of travel and from what I have been told the change of the women physic in Rio. They are now looking a little heavier than in the past etc.
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Negotiations
[quote=christopherd]i know this might be a fun discussion and i hate to be a party pooper but remember there are newbies trawling through this thread, maybe at 2am before a long flight, trying to find how to make the most of rio women.
there's a dedicated thread for american politics in the general isg board.[/quote]thank you, christopherd.
one of the questions i have as i approach my first trip brazil is to what extent do you find that you need to state exactly what sex you expect.
elsewhere, like tj, it gets very tedious. but if i don't, for example, talk about nipple sucking ahead of time, providers more times than not will finger wag me off: "es cinco mas!"
any thoughts on negotiations?
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Mongering and politics dont mix!
When traveling, I have one simple rule--NO POLITICS and I believe this board would do well to follow suit.
I was in Capetown SA a few years ago in a nice bar, everyone was having a good time..I struck up a conversation with some fellow who intimated that he was once part of the South African army who enforced Apartheid..things started getting tense..I simply stopped him and said--hey man, I'm here on vacation..would u like a drink? We proceded to have a few rounds and joked about the different pretentious spinners in the bar...good times without the fuss and tension of politics.
We are all here in search of one common thing: The pursuit and procurement of top shelf brazilian BUNDA at a reasonable price..our ideological tendencies need not matter.
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Was Help open tonight?
guys, can we please get back on track with the central purpose of this board? any gents on the ground who can report as to whether discoteca helpee was open tonight? reports are that the last night would be sometime in may. i may make my 5th trip to rio in nov. if i dont go to medellin colombia and am trying to get an idea as to whether help or a comparable replacement will be open. helpee is truly magical and unique and i doubt any new venue will have the same qualities to the same degree.
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Negotiations.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]One of the questions I have as I approach my first trip Brazil is to what extent do you find that you need to state exactly what sex you expect... any thoughts on negotiations?[/QUOTE]A good question. Negotiations is very important!
I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.
1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.
Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.
Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.
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there is nothing in medellin that even comes close to rio (mongering wise) if you are looking for a help replacement you are not going to find it in medellin buddy, there are no dance clubs/discos that cater to mongers in medellin none at all. i never was a fan of help i am a terma monger that is where you will find the best serivce and looking garotas in rio de janeiro in my opinion. i have done from the cheapest centro terma to the most expensive so i consider myself a good judge of the mongering scene down in rio.
[quote=bunda man]guys, can we please get back on track with the central purpose of this board? any gents on the ground who can report as to whether discoteca helpee was open tonight? reports are that the last night would be sometime in may. i may make my 5th trip to rio in nov. if i dont go to medellin colombia and am trying to get an idea as to whether help or a comparable replacement will be open. helpee is truly magical and unique and i doubt any new venue will have the same qualities to the same degree.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]...I am a Terma Monger that is where you will find the best serivce and looking garotas in Rio de Janeiro in my opinion...[/QUOTE]I totally agree, specially if you consider, that most of times it is enough to go twice with the same terma girl to be able, and it is indeed very easy, to meet her outside for to go to the beach together or dinner and sex session.
So with a very little budget, 2x to terma, you are gonna to date a girl that 99% is completa and very good looking without the need to work a lot in internet before your travel or to take random some piranha whom you do not know in advance if she is really passionate or not.
Build a friendship with a terma girl and you will have all you need, best quality at the cheapest price.
You really cannot ask for more :)
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Once again. All hail Sperto! Thank you Sir. Great questions! Wish I would have had a few of those on my first trip. Be in Rio in August for a few weeks. Buy you a beer, or your beverage of choice, if you are in town then.
Sonny
[QUOTE=Sperto]A good question. Negotiations is very important!
I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.
1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.
Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.
Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's SPAM policy prohibiting reports containing [u]political commentary[/u]. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
Actually, what I posted was not political commentary. I merely corrected a serious mistatement.
I understand you are the moderator but very often guys make mistatements on here that you allow to remain. If I was sure the mistatement would have been deleted I would not have posted a correction.
Here is your rule:
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Here is another SPAM rule:
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Not sure how I violated it!
Considering you allow posts by senior members who state they wish certain types of people would not be allowed in Brazil, I think there is a problem here. When people make offensive comments about rap, hip hop, baseball caps, you allow it! But when people correct wild statements about certain politcians you delete the wild statement, finally, and also berate the correcter?
Politics is not limited to statements about politicians. That crap about rap, etc., that you have allowed for years IS POLITICAL! BE FAIR!
TJ
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Bad night
Hello
Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.
But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?
I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?
I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.
To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.
There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.
What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?
Take care all
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Casablanca club
Went past Casablanca club yesterday. Its ex New Munich club. Used to be worst club in Copa. There is no way that it could replace Help in case of closure.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]A good question. Negotiations is very important!
I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.
1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.
Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.
Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.[/QUOTE]Hello group!
Thanks for the above Sperto. Already printed out and laminated the maps too! It should help out tremendously for my first trip to Rio in about 3 weeks.
Group/Sperto: Could you help me with something? I figured out how to say everything below in Portuguese, except for number 5 and mainly number 7. Here's what I have. Can you help me?
1. Qual e o seu nome?
2. Quantos anos voce tem?
3. Voce tem filhos? Quantos filhos?
4. Quanto?
5. ??
6. Quanto tempo?
7. ??
8. chupada/boquete sem camisinha
9. Completa?
10. I'm staying in an apartment; don't think I have to ask this one.
Lastly, when it comes to referring to cum, do the garotas refer to it mostly as porra or leite (milk)? Spent a lot of time in DR, where leite was the main word used. CIM = leite/porra na sua boca??
Thanks
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Hi Trafukin,
With all due respect, why did you post this in the [b][u]Rio de Janeiro Reports [/u][/b] thread when the forum has a thread specifically for "Portuguese Phrases"
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1887
I would very much appreciate it if you would consider re-posting your question in one of these established threads.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Red Flags
Gavazzi,
I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.
Red Flags:
1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start
2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price
3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)
Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.
Just some thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Jak]Gavazzi,
I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.
Red Flags:
1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start
2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price
3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)
Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.
Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE]You are absolutly right I should have think about it, but you know how it is sometimes the head is still at the room
I have read this things here for so long time but I have been lucky so far even tho I stayed here now for 6 month it has always gone smothly and I always have the guard on.
But yesterday I let the guard down of some reason. She even started with the famous "you don't like me" when I didn't want to pay the price.
Thanks for reply
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Does anyone know the current prices at Termas 502 in Centro?[/QUOTE]I was there late March and it was R$20 entrance and R$185.00 to session. It was my first-time, and I enjoyed it. The girls try hard to compete with 4x4 across the street. My wingman and I were on our way and I said what's that with the big bundas going in. We went in and I session and forgot about 4x4.
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"Pretty Woman" Is Just a Movie!
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning...[/QUOTE]You better be really young (<23) or really old (80+) to have made such an error in judgement. Words like Rio, Help, and Prostitute should be enough for any sensible man to limit the "relationship" to two hours.
No matter how unfortunate you think you are, I think that you're lucky. Yes, LUCKY! If the prostitute had had any smarts, she could have squeezed so much more out of you as a wife or divorcée.
-Helpmann :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Jak]Gavazzi,
I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.
Red Flags:
1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start
2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price
3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)
Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.
Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE]
There is no need to beat yourself up..u recovered nicely. There are always some GDPs who will try to take advantage of who they perceive an easy mark. You were in a no win situation, where it seemed that the cab driver was in on the scam.
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First Stop - Luomo
Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip. This was the first time taking the Real Bus from GIG airport. Man, what have I been missing! The cost was only $R7 and the trip wasn't too long - only 50 minutes door to door. Compare that with the normal $R45 cab fare that I have been paying in the past, and that's hailing the legit cabs upstairs. The bus first stopped at Rodovaria bus station, then somewhere in Centro (downtown), then Santos Dumont airport, and finally Copacabana. I told the driver I was staying at Ibiza Hotel on Rua Beflort Roxo, even though I wasn't, so the bus driver dropped me off on the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Barrata de Ribeiro, near the apartment I was staying at.
Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.
Saw some of the usual suspects - Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me - did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.
I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...
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Rumors of Luomo's demise ??
[QUOTE=Azn Safado] Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip… Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible…
I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...
...[/QUOTE]
Are you confusing the demise of Help with Luomo? Luomo management has made some unpopular cost saving changes but I haven't heard any discussion about closing shop. Sixteen girls on a Sunday night in the low tourist season is actually a pretty good slate for Luomo. Sorry about your unintentional dry run.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip. This was the first time taking the Real Bus from GIG airport. Man, what have I been missing! The cost was only $R7 and the trip wasn't too long - only 50 minutes door to door. Compare that with the normal $R45 cab fare that I have been paying in the past, and that's hailing the legit cabs upstairs. The bus first stopped at Rodovaria bus station, then somewhere in Centro (downtown), then Santos Dumont airport, and finally Copacabana. I told the driver I was staying at Ibiza Hotel on Rua Beflort Roxo, even though I wasn't, so the bus driver dropped me off on the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Barrata de Ribeiro, near the apartment I was staying at.
Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.
Saw some of the usual suspects - Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me - did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.
I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...[/QUOTE]
Saturday night was quite a different scene, with a good 30-40 girls around 6:30, and a good number of guys. Quite a few of the girls were new and attractive, and some popular girls from the past--like Giselle and Luana and Nina--had returned. Saturday night was looking strong. I don't think I would judge any terma by what it looked like on a Sunday night...
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Went past Casablanca club yesterday. Its ex New Munich club. Used to be worst club in Copa. There is no way that it could replace Help in case of closure.[/QUOTE]
Was it definitley called the Cassablanca, I could have sworn it was called the Copacabana club when I went past but then my eyesights not the greatest.
I had a couple of good nights in the Munich club a long time ago, they used to have an okay lesbian act at one time. Trying to get a 1000 people in there might be a tight squeeze.
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Saturday night was quite a different scene, with a good 30-40 girls around 6:30, and a good number of guys. Quite a few of the girls were new and attractive, and some popular girls from the past--like Giselle and Luana and Nina--had returned. Saturday night was looking strong. I don't think I would judge any terma by what it looked like on a Sunday night...[/QUOTE]I'm on a plane in 3 hours and JC comes up with the motivational post of the week. When L'uomo is happening, all is right in Rio (for me anyway...ymmv).
Thanks!
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Help
According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.
Thanx
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Here is the link to the event on YouTube ;)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXMHvdK_YKc[/url]
[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Hello
Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.
But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?
I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?
I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.
To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.
There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.
What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?
Take care all[/QUOTE]
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Keeping the Guard Up
[QUOTE=Carrib]There is no need to beat yourself up..u recovered nicely. There are always some GDPs who will try to take advantage of who they perceive an easy mark. You were in a no win situation, where it seemed that the cab driver was in on the scam.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Gavazzi took my comments to mean that I was giving him a beating, or that he was beating himself up. It's just that looking at red flags would have avoided getting to the taxi to begin with. We've all been where Gavazzi was - with our own variations on the story. It's good to offer each other support and reminders.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Are you confusing the demise of Help with Luomo? Luomo management has made some unpopular cost saving changes but I haven't heard any discussion about closing shop. Sixteen girls on a Sunday night in the low tourist season is actually a pretty good slate for Luomo. Sorry about your unintentional dry run.[/QUOTE]
I guess "demise" was a wrong choice of words. Haha. I meant to use a word for "going downhill", as I have read on this message board that many Copa termas have been headed that direction. Then again, many posters are comparing these termas to the hey days of the early 2000's. Nevertheless, I hear Monte Carlo is back on the way up. I shall see tomorrow at MC, as it is coupon night there for $R60 off cabine fee for a session.
That's good to hear that Luomo was jumping on Saturday. I will check out Luomo again this coming Saturday then. Until then, it's off to Solarium in a couple of hours to double-down and make up for last night's non-action.
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[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.
Thanx[/QUOTE]
I'm curious what that really means.
1. Does it mean that the owners of Help are going to open a club in the basement of the Iberostar hotel?
OR
2. Does it mean that the Iberostar has opened a club in the hotel they just bought from the Meridien that they refurbished top to bottom and inside and out and the girls from Help are just going to start going to this new club?
I would suspect that it would be closer to choice number 2, since there is a large space in the Iberostar for a club, many years ago in the 80's when it was the Meridien they had a club called Regine's and there has been no club there for many years, so it is possible that the new management is opening a club there. But I wouldn't think they want the GDP's from Help but then can they stop them?
I think it would be a great idea, think about how many Mongers would stay in the hotel. Go downstairs to the club, have a few drinks, dance then take you're new found one night stand up the elevator to your room. It eliminates the taxi problem outside and many security problems.
This club/space although a good size is no where close to the size of Help. It had a small dance floor/a bar, tables. A good size but not as big as Help, as a matter of fact not many clubs are, it will be hard to replace.
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[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.
Thanx[/QUOTE]
This is confusing on several points. First, I don't recall there being a club in the Meridian but in any case, the Meridian has been boarded up for some time now. There were lots of clubs near the Meridian, most of which are still there, seedier than they were, and none large enough to replace Help. You could say that Mabs used to be the TA of more than 20 years ago. You could still find a friend there today.
What does not make sense is that if they close Help, they would just let it relocate in Copacabana. The whole reason for closing it is to clean up and just moving it elsewhere is not likely to make the civic minded folks pushing this very happy.
If it is closed, the girls will probably redistribute themselves along the various restaurants, bars and clubs along Copacabana. This is not good for either the buyers or sellers. It's like going from a supermarket back to the corner grocery. Maybe another "supermarket" will emerge. Anyway, mongering won't go away, it may just be decentralized.
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[QUOTE=Fashion][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXMHvdK_YKc[/url][/QUOTE]Hahaha I'm not from Italy, so it wasnt exactly like that. But not far from it.
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Not likely Help would move to le Meridien
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.
Thanx[/QUOTE]
The Meridien is owned by PREVI, the employee pension fund of the Bank of Brasil. It was leased to the Spanish hotel chain Iberostar in 2007 and closed for renovation. All work came to a halt in 2008 when disagreements over costs reached an impasse. The Rio de Janeiro government is anxious to find an alternative tenant to replace the millions of revenues lost since the closure of le Meridien. PREVI has been searching for a new tenant but asserts that there is an agreement with the city of Rio de Janeiro that it may only operate as a hotel under an agreement dating back to the 1970s when it was constructed to a height which exceeded building limits for Copacabana. There have been several proposals for mixed use of the building as offices, condominiums and hotel but the use restriction seems to prohibit alternative businesses from operating in the facility. Given this situation, it is highly unlikely that Rio politicos after taking credit for closing Help would be a party to lifting the restrictions to allow Help to relocate in the building.
However, in Brasil government actions are not always as one might expect.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado] I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10: 30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.
Saw some of the usual suspects. Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me. Did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.[/QUOTE]thanks Azn.
Can you get your entrance money back if you dislike the crop?
I've never been to Rio, booked for August.
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Day 2 - Termas Solarium
I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.
Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.
At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!
Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.
I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]thanks Azn.
Can you get your entrance money back if you dislike the crop?
I've never been to Rio, booked for August.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, you can't get your entrance money back. I don't know of any termas that will let you get your entrance money back. Luomo does have 50% off entrance on Monday-Friday before 7pm, but even then I think you have to session with a girl to qualify for the discount.
There are some strip clubs and take-out bars (Frank's, Ciccolina's, Sensoo, etc) in Posto 2 that allow you to do a quick 2 minute "look and see" of their talent for free before committing to the cover charge, but that's about as far as it goes.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Unfortunately, you can't get your entrance money back. I don't know of any termas that will let you get your entrance money back. Luomo does have 50% off entrance on Monday-Friday before 7pm, but even then I think you have to session with a girl to qualify for the discount.
There are some strip clubs and take-out bars (Frank's, Ciccolina's, Sensoo, etc) in Posto 2 that allow you to do a quick 2 minute "look and see" of their talent for free before committing to the cover charge, but that's about as far as it goes.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Az. I like look-sees.
Where do you get the Monday coupon for Solarium?
And good luck tomorrow!
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Hello
Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.
But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?
I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?
I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.
To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.
There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.
What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?
Take care all[/QUOTE]To stop this problem, just go to the termas. Find a women there for tln (no problem). Don't touch the favela trash from mp. I can't understand why mongers pay top dollar for this trash.
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Congrats!
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.
Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.
At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!
Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.
I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...[/QUOTE]
Congrats on your last statement......." Just hang out and see where it goes " Its always good to state expectations up front, but there some exceptions, especially if there is a chemistry there. Chances are there will be a couple of freebies......but as we all know, paying for dinner and gifts cost cash too :) Its all good. Most importantly, there is a great chance you will get the famous " GFE"
Been there, done that ( the termas girl inviting me to the beach on her day off ), good luck, and have a blast!
I will have my share of the pie when I get there next month.
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Terma girls
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.
Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.
At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!
Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.
I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...[/QUOTE]
I always find it fun to hang out with terma girls on their day off or after work.. I have had plenty of freebies and or just pay my taxi home. We go out to eat or dancing in Lapa then some fun back at the apartment. I always try to keep at least a couple per trip available depending upon time. If the chemistry is there you will have a great time. When I was down in March one of my terma girls from 4X4 came by 2 time to see me with no charge just a gift that I brought and taxi fare.
Just my 2 cevatos
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[QUOTE=Acenva]I always find it fun to hang out with terma girls on their day off or after work.. I have had plenty of freebies and or just pay my taxi home. We go out to eat or dancing in Lapa then some fun back at the apartment. I always try to keep at least a couple per trip available depending upon time. If the chemistry is there you will have a great time. When I was down in March one of my terma girls from 4X4 came by 2 time to see me with no charge just a gift that I brought and taxi fare.
Just my 2 cevatos[/QUOTE]
Cool dude, that's always good to hear about the freebies. That's what makes Rio not-so-overpriced when you can factor that in.
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Time for another Rio trip!
Can't wait to go to 4X4, Luomos and Monte Carlo!
Has anyone seen Shayla lately?
I was in Rio just a few months back. Went to various termas and had a good time.
A gifted garota, not a stunner but a pleasant, nice looking woman, rocked my world near the end of my trip. I still think of her. Hopefully I can find her again but there's always more!
Shayla was one of the first terma garotas I had the pleasure of seeing. She was wild at Luomos and always gave me first class service. Ahhhhh, memories!
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Day 3 - Termas Monte Carlo (A Dreaded E.D. First)
So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.
So 6pm rolls around and I arrive at Monte Carlo. I present my coupon for $R60 off cabine fee for a 40-minute session. Inside the boite, there were about 30 girls and 10 guys. Great ratio! I'd say about 5 stunners in the place, the rest of the crop varied.
So after about an hour, I settle in with this girl with black hair that looks kind of like a young Angie Harmon (formerly on TV's Law & Order). We chat, she is very nice, has no vices (no smoking, drinking), no kids. So far, so good. I asked if she wanted a drink, she said "no thank you". Again, good sign as she did not try to bleed me for a Red Bull. Then it comes to the kissing...She was one of those closed-mouth kissers, with minimal tongue. Kind of a red flag for me, but at this point, I was almost at the point of no return. I used to make out with girls in the boite all the time and move onto the next, but now I find it to be pretty inconsiderate and misleading to the girls, so I don't really do that anymore.
We finally go up to the cabine. Some kissing, not great. She then gives a bbbj for about a minute, then gives a covered bj, then pulls it off and gives a bbbj again. I'm thinking, "can't this chick make up her mind?". So then I decide to go down on her. She just lays there with her eyes closed, no reaction at all. I pulled out every tongue trick in my bag, still no reaction. I was beginning to think she was either dead or asleep. At this point, I'm totally turned off. The whole session seemed so CLINICAL to me.
So next she busts out the KY jelly out of her purse. By now, the dreaded E.D. (Erectile Dysfunction) has already hit. Oddly enough, this was the first time I have experienced going limp in over 40 sessions at these termas. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. A bunch of thoughts and doubts started to wander in my mind as this was happening, such as "should I even try to cum, or save it for another terma?" and "why is she using KY jelly, do I not make her horny? (Austin Powers' voice and all)". I may be wrong, but when they use KY, they must not be horny for me. Haha. Well, at least all the great sessions in my opinion have been so spontaneous with no interruptions, such as the garota taking a break in the action to resort to the lube. Add that thought to the whole clinical feel of the session, and there was no turning back. She proceeded to give me more bbbj and hand job, etc, nothing was going to work even as I was trying to think about porn, etc. Haha.
So time was almost up and I told her it wasn't gonna happen. She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion. Of course when this Erectile Dysfunction happens, it's a blow to both egos, ie, "I'm a man and I can't get it up?" and for the woman "I must not be sexy enough". All in all, an awkward situation. So I proceeded to kiss her goodbye, apologize for my lack of performance, and paid $R215 including drinks for the session. I liked the selection here tonight and want to come back this week, but it will be a little embarassing as I'm sure word has already spread throughout the powerful GDP Network that I'm a walking "limp noodle". Ha.
On my way out, it was 8:30p I was thinking "I ain't going out like that...". Taxi, take me to Solarium. Boy was this place jumping tonight. About 50 girls and seemed like 30 guys, the place was a zoo like 4x4! I ended up hooking up with the same girl from last night and all was right with the world. No more woody problems! Hoorah.
On tap tomorrow...4x4. Not sure if I will actually go tomorrow though, as I am supposed to meet this Solarium girl in the morning for the beach and hopefully some apartment action and later I have plans to meet a non-pro, not-hot friend (whom I met through MyLanguageExchange website last year) for dinner and to watch "X-Men Origins:Wolverine" movie.
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Funny
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.[/quote]The way I see it sometimes is not the tool that gives you the problem is the person using it. Hey so she did not know how to turn you on. Chuck it to experience and move on to the next one which you did. The sign should had been the kissing or lack of kissing on her part. If my solder doesn't salute when I kiss the girl I look at it as lack of chemistry and that is when I say NEXT. Great story keep them coming.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado] She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion. [/QUOTE]
In my experience, girls who are lousy in bed (truly a rarity in Rio) rarely know that they are lousy in bed. Consequently, they need to be told exactly what was lacking. How else will they learn? You made it perfectly clear to us just what was wrong, so IMHO you should have told her. But then, maybe you're more of a gentleman than I am.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.
So 6pm rolls around and I arrive at Monte Carlo. I present my coupon for $R60 off cabine fee for a 40-minute session. Inside the boite, there were about 30 girls and 10 guys. Great ratio! I'd say about 5 stunners in the place, the rest of the crop varied.
So after about an hour, I settle in with this girl with black hair that looks kind of like a young Angie Harmon (formerly on TV's Law & Order). We chat, she is very nice, has no vices (no smoking, drinking), no kids. So far, so good. I asked if she wanted a drink, she said "no thank you". Again, good sign as she did not try to bleed me for a Red Bull. Then it comes to the kissing...She was one of those closed-mouth kissers, with minimal tongue. Kind of a red flag for me, but at this point, I was almost at the point of no return. I used to make out with girls in the boite all the time and move onto the next, but now I find it to be pretty inconsiderate and misleading to the girls, so I don't really do that anymore.
We finally go up to the cabine. Some kissing, not great. She then gives a bbbj for about a minute, then gives a covered bj, then pulls it off and gives a bbbj again. I'm thinking, "can't this chick make up her mind?". So then I decide to go down on her. She just lays there with her eyes closed, no reaction at all. I pulled out every tongue trick in my bag, still no reaction. I was beginning to think she was either dead or asleep. At this point, I'm totally turned off. The whole session seemed so CLINICAL to me.
So next she busts out the KY jelly out of her purse. By now, the dreaded E.D. (Erectile Dysfunction) has already hit. Oddly enough, this was the first time I have experienced going limp in over 40 sessions at these termas. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. A bunch of thoughts and doubts started to wander in my mind as this was happening, such as "should I even try to cum, or save it for another terma?" and "why is she using KY jelly, do I not make her horny? (Austin Powers' voice and all)". I may be wrong, but when they use KY, they must not be horny for me. Haha. Well, at least all the great sessions in my opinion have been so spontaneous with no interruptions, such as the garota taking a break in the action to resort to the lube. Add that thought to the whole clinical feel of the session, and there was no turning back. She proceeded to give me more bbbj and hand job, etc, nothing was going to work even as I was trying to think about porn, etc. Haha.
So time was almost up and I told her it wasn't gonna happen. She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion. Of course when this Erectile Dysfunction happens, it's a blow to both egos, ie, "I'm a man and I can't get it up?" and for the woman "I must not be sexy enough". All in all, an awkward situation. So I proceeded to kiss her goodbye, apologize for my lack of performance, and paid $R215 including drinks for the session. I liked the selection here tonight and want to come back this week, but it will be a little embarassing as I'm sure word has already spread throughout the powerful GDP Network that I'm a walking "limp noodle". Ha.
On my way out, it was 8:30p I was thinking "I ain't going out like that...". Taxi, take me to Solarium. Boy was this place jumping tonight. About 50 girls and seemed like 30 guys, the place was a zoo like 4x4! I ended up hooking up with the same girl from last night and all was right with the world. No more woody problems! Hoorah.
On tap tomorrow...4x4. Not sure if I will actually go tomorrow though, as I am supposed to meet this Solarium girl in the morning for the beach and hopefully some apartment action and later I have plans to meet a non-pro, not-hot friend (whom I met through MyLanguageExchange website last year) for dinner and to watch "X-Men Origins:Wolverine" movie.[/QUOTE]
I can sympathize.
This has happened to me at least once, and that too when I has taken a quarter pill of V (courtesy of a sales rep about 5 years ago). It was solely from lack of passion/response from the chic
Actually the very first time I got a limp noodle was at age 17, in one of the Times Squre porn theaters (side rooms), with a so-so chick who wanted to give me a hand job instead of BBBJ as negotiated.
Turned me off completely, plus some fear factor (my first p4p, foced upon me by my buddies):)
I was extremely upset at what happened. To regain confidence, I went home and fucked the sense out of my GF for 16 hours straight.
She was forever greatful, and I...... I was 'the man' once again.:D
Shit happens.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]I can sympathize.
This has happened to me at least once, and that too when I has taken a quarter pill of V (courtesy of a sales rep about 5 years ago). It was solely from lack of passion/response from the chic
Actually the very first time I got a limp noodle was at age 17, in one of the Times Squre porn theaters (side rooms), with a so-so chick who wanted to give me a hand job instead of BBBJ as negotiated.
Turned me off completely, plus some fear factor (my first p4p, foced upon me by my buddies):)
I was extremely upset at what happened. To regain confidence, I went home and fucked the sense out of my GF for 16 hours straight.
She was forever greatful, and I...... I was 'the man' once again.:D
Shit happens.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]A so-so chick? Would that be the same as a tranny or boygirl? Explain please.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I'm sorry but you stand your ground at 150 inside of Help? Which means she only ends up with 100 reais, what kind of skanks are you getting?[/QUOTE]March 2008, I got two great looking and great fucking 19 year-old cousins out of Help for $R150,00 a piece. I swear, they watched cartoons between turns. Now, Paola, calls me cartoon when I see her at Mea Pataca.
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The First is the Roughest
After a really shitty experience with Delta losing my luggage, I started drinking pretty heavy. I must admit, traveling in Rio with a female cousin has had some advantages so far. My cousin is pretty clueless about the whole mongering thing. She's a really good looking woman in her twenties. So while hanging out with 2 non-pros, this Brazilian guy starts trying to talk to her. I must admit, this was funny to see, especially when he took a knee and asked her to marry him.
With my cousin safely back in Laranjeiras, it was time to go to work. Ran into a few familiar faces at TA. But was more interested in drinking. While the bill wasn't much, my stomach was on empty. Took this young PYT back to Laranjeiras where we continued to drink at a street bar. Then it was off to a makeshift love motel. The sex was interesting. She seemed to anticipate my every move. It was like she was in my head. It was the best ten minutes of the day. Don't remember her name, and didn't get her number. It was the 8 caprivodka's that I consumed.
Women seen more or less intrigued by my cousin an I together. It's kind of like having a cute child with you, or a little puppy. I got three phone numbers from women working a various stores in Centro. This is great. So today after exiting the metro at Largo do Merchado, I had my cousin wait at a little pizza place. I made a made dash for my favorite little 15 minute for R$30 place. This little spinner rode me like it was her job! Oh yeah, it was her job. This fifteen minutes ended up being better the the ten the previous night. I love this little place on Rua Benito Lisboa.
When i got back to my cousin about 20 minutes later, I gave her some song and dance about running into a store. I'm thinking I may go back tonight if my cousin falls asleep early like she says.
ryjer.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]A so-so chick? Would that be the same as a tranny or boygirl? Explain please.[/QUOTE]
I mean an avergage looking (not ugly) girl, espcially when compared to my then present girl friend(s).
But despite having watched the porn in the next room, poor attitude and fear resulted in a limp noodle!
It was bad for morale but I got over that wihtin a couple of days:)
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Day 4 - GDP Flake City
Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right. So we made plans for Thursday at 10am...More on this later.
So I make plans with another garota that used to work at Solarium but quit a few weeks ago. She said she would come by the apartment at noon and we would order Chinese food. 1pm rolls around, I text her telling her I'm hungry and she says "I'm on my way". About 20 minutes later, she texts again and says "Sorry I can't make lunch today. Something unexpected came up."
What the hell? What's with these garotas flaking all the time? I am having a bad run of luck here. I guess when there is no money involved/discussed, I shouldn't be that surprised although these girls in general haven't flaked on me in the past. Law of averages kicking in now, or regression to the mean, I guess. So a waste of a day so far. Later, I end up meeting the non-pro, not-hot friend for dinner and a movie at LeBlon Shopping mall. By the time this outing was over, it was past midnight, so I called it day - without sex mind you. Oh well, I will make it up at 4x4 tomorrow...
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right. So we made plans for Thursday at 10am...More on this later.
So I make plans with another garota that used to work at Solarium but quit a few weeks ago. She said she would come by the apartment at noon and we would order Chinese food. 1pm rolls around, I text her telling her I'm hungry and she says "I'm on my way". About 20 minutes later, she texts again and says "Sorry I can't make lunch today. Something unexpected came up."
What the hell? What's with these garotas flaking all the time? I am having a bad run of luck here. I guess when there is no money involved/discussed, I shouldn't be that surprised although these girls in general haven't flaked on me in the past. Law of averages kicking in now, or regression to the mean, I guess. So a waste of a day so far. Later, I end up meeting the non-pro, not-hot friend for dinner and a movie at LeBlon Shopping mall. By the time this outing was over, it was past midnight, so I called it day - without sex mind you. Oh well, I will make it up at 4x4 tomorrow...[/QUOTE]
Whether it's just a date or sex, when a Brasiliera says "I'm coming" don't take her seriously. :)
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Brazilian Time
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised by your account at all. Last time I was in Rio, I hooked up with a GDP I met at Help and we made plans to meet at my apartment for a quickie. I emailed her the meeting place and time and she emailed back saying she will be there. Be there my ass. I waited for her the whole nite and she never showed up. The next nite I got smart and called her cell and she gave some poor excuse for not showing up. So that nite I got my revenge and f--ked the sh-t out of her. Haha.
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Day 5 - 4x4
On Day 4, the garota from Solarium said to call her today to go to the beach at 10 am. So I wake up and call...no answer. I send her a text message, only never to hear back. Oh well, who knows what goes on in their diabolical little minds, so it's par for the course.
So 3pm rolls around and I hop on the Subway Metro at Cardeal Arcoverde station. I get off on the Uruguiana stop and hoof it 5 minutes to get to 4x4 at around 3:45 pm. I go into the boite and there are over 60 girls in there, and maybe 20 guys, which is less dudes than usual, although I know it will pick up fiercely by 7pm. Saw some of the usual suspects - Melany (beautiful red-head), Cher (blondie), and Jully (petite dark haired girl). Didn't see Amanda (Halle Berry looking chick with the big bunda).
I then sit, talk to a few girls and finally settle in on a little dark-haired spinner. She asked me to guess her age and I said "23". She jokingly said "I am about to cry...I'm 19". So I said I was clueless because every garota says she's "23". She seemed cool, friendly. So we chat it up and then start the kissing. She was a good kisser and I looked at my watch...4:51 pm. So I say "vamos" as I had the intent of sessioning before 5pm today to waive the $R40 entry fee.
I choose the 1 hour cabine and the session was very good, bbbj, lots of passion. Later within that hour, we attempt round 2 but the little soldier would only comply off and on. Strange, since I took a day off yesterday and I am not too old yet (37), at least I don't think I am. Ha. Time finally ran out and I got her phone number.
Oddly enough, since 4x4 is a matter of "quality by quantity", I have mostly had mediocre sessions there. Today was one of the better ones. On my way out, I do one more "drive by" in the boite, scoping out prospects for tomorrow. I talk to this super cute brunette who said she comes in at 5 pm. So tomorrow I will forgo the "session before 5pm" discount and give this cutie a test drive...Total damage today was $R200, still one of the best values in Rio quality-wise.
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I hate to break the news to you, but the flakeout rate on a terma girl getting up to go to the beach to meet you, is high. These girls are so tired from all the hours they are forced to work, including all the drinking they do. What they tell you at 8pm, and what they do at 10 am, when they decide they rather sleep in, rather then make 200 reals, are 2 different things. You would have to offer them alot more than the usual rate, to get them motivated to get up. They know they will make the money at the terma. There are girls that work the day and girls that work the termas. You want to stick to one or the other. You have a better chance of getting the girls to meet you after work to go out at night than you do the day. That even is hard because they might be too tired to go out after. It all depends on how many tricks they did that night. The girl that said she would meet you might not have gone home until 5 am. She isn't getting up at nine.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]On Day 4, the garota from Solarium said to call her today to go to the beach at 10 am. So I wake up and call...no answer. I send her a text message, only never to hear back. Oh well, who knows what goes on in their diabolical little minds, so it's par for the course.[/QUOTE]Well in Latin America the 50-50 100 rule applies. 50-50 that they show up at all and 100% that they will be late! You always need a plan B, C etc.
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[QUOTE=Poonani Central]M
Paris Café: now we’re talking. Strip cub atmosphere. Give you a paper card to mark down your drinks. Loaded, I say loaded with prime poontang dressed slutty. Ya! I love it. Settle on a stunner dark garota w/ short hair, tall, long legs, 8ish. Great attitude. Start drinking shots and get plastered. Partner picks his, another modelo. Head up to cabins. Really nice and big. So. She shoves a towel at the base of the door, cracks the window open and lights up a joint. "Para Voce? " wasted & stupid "sim" now I’m wasted& stoned. Idioto! Could have gone sour, but. . This was my best experience in Rio. She was super fun, all holes, BBBJ. Epic! This is the Mecca! [/QUOTE]
Paris Cafe? Never heard of this place before, and I've been reading the boards. Maybe I missed it. Can anyone shed additional light?
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Paris Cafe? Never heard of this place before, and I've been reading the boards. Maybe I missed it. Can anyone shed additional light? [/QUOTE]Yeah I have heard off it, I was in 502 (in April) having a few beers, and some brazilian was talking about it, reakons that the women are top notch material. Couldn't understand where it was though. Ended up leaving and going to 4x4.
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Help closing
Anyone on the ground in Rio? Anynews about Help closing? Wasn't it supose to close this weekend or next weekend? And the ta restraunt to close too.
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Meia Pataca Trash
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]March 2008, I got two great looking and great fucking 19 year-old cousins out of Help for $R150, 00 a piece. I swear, they watched cartoons between turns. Now, Paola, calls me cartoon when I see her at Mea Pataca.[/QUOTE] That say's it all mp trash that are going in help. The garotas that I take from help would not be seen at mp, nor do they hang around out the front off help.
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Paris Café
[url]http://www.pariscafe.com.br[/url]
Av. das Américas 15105, Recreio dos Bandeirantes.
[url]http://maps.google.se/maps?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&q=pariscafe+rio+de+janeiro&fb=1&split=1&gl=se&cid=912609262673241731&li=lmd&z=14&t=m[/url]
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[QUOTE=Sperto][url]http://www.pariscafe.com.br[/url]
Av. das Américas 15105, Recreio dos Bandeirantes.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Looks pretty far off the beaten track.
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Serious Do's and Don'ts
In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party, and went with a group of 6 other people. In the group was myself, my female cousin, an american who teaches favela kids english, and 4 brasilian women. Now going to dinner at someone's house, and taking a cab up the winding roads is another thing.
It was worth the experience, but not for the faint of heart. The music was loud, the girls bangin', and the drinks cold. I was greatly surprised to see the guys with automatic weapons walking in lines through the party, like a patrol or something. I felt like I was dressed perfect for the occasion, but my cousin wished she was wearing less, and looked more like the other girls.
It was a great time. We danced until 5am, then I took my girl home, she had to open the salon at 9am this morning. If you ever hit one of these parties, wear foam ear plugs.
Oh yeah, when were leaving, and just reaching Sa Farreira, I ran into some club girl that I knew.
ryjer
not recommended for everyone!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party...[/QUOTE]
I think you missed the most important thing, where was this baile funk? Which favela?
I've only been to baile funk in Rocinha (at Emoções) which was excellent. Other bailes close to zona sul are interesting information for all of us.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]I think you missed the most important thing, where was this baile funk? Which favela?
I've only been to baile funk in Rocinha (at Emoções) which was excellent. Other bailes close to zona sul are interesting information for all of us.[/QUOTE]
Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.
[url]http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q[/url]
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.
[url]http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q[/url]
ryjer[/QUOTE]I have been in that favela many times. It is quite safe. There are a set of steps you can walk down to leave the favela. Go up the road way, and leave via the steps. If the police see gringos going in and out off the favela they will make trouble for you. The favela even has a internet cafe half way up the hill. Near the hair dressers there.
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Pavão Pavãozinho
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.
[url]http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q[/url]
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I agree about the noise, I used to live nearby. The music often starts Friday evening and runs until Monday morning. You can hear it on N.S. Copacabana. As for trouble, there is a lot of shooting, both intramural and intra-gang, plus police raids every month or so.
Your map put me right in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Try this link:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=100+saint+roman,+copacabana,+rio+de+janeiro,+rj,+brazil&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=30.406222,56.25&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=-22.97974,-43.192577&spn=0.004307,0.006866&z=17&iwloc=A[/url]
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Day 6 and 7 - Termas Variety Pack
[b]Day 6[/b]
Went to 4x4 on a Friday afternoon at 4:45p. Pretty packed sausage fest compared to yesterday. So I waited for the girl I met upon leaving 4x4 yesterday and she showed up a little after 5pm. We chatted in the boite for about 20 minutes and then headed up to the cabine for a 1-hour session. The session was pretty phenomenal. One of the main reasons is because I really clicked with this girl and had kind of an emotional connection with her. [i]Whoa, now I'm starting to sound like a chick![/i] Haha. Nevertheless, this was probably the first time where it crossed my mind to re-session with the same girl within the same night. I fought the urge and decided to give Luomo another shot, as a poster on this board said it was jumping last Friday night. Anyway, total damage was $R240 at 4x4.
So after leaving Centro and going to my apartment for a bit, I arrive at Luomo around 8:45pm. I walk into the boite and bam! Pretty much the same old disappointing crew from last Sunday night - seemed to be about 20 girls. I did see one new old face, ie, blonde Doris from Solarium is now at Luomo. Anyway, it was slim pickens to me, so I went to the relax room and chilled. There I met a cool ISG'er and we chatted for a bit. Also talked to another cool monger that I happen to run into on practically every trip. I think we all concurred that this place was dead tonight. After about midnight, I decided to bail because there wasn't really anything that appetizing to me this night. Total damage was $R70 for entry and a drink.
[b]Day 7[/b]
Had some time to kill on Saturday, so I went to see "Wolverine" at Rio Sul during the day. Pretty good movie, but not as good as the trailers make it look. After the movie, I decided to hit Monte Carlo tonight. Got there at 6:30 pm and there were about 20 girls and around 8 guys. Chatted with 2 girls that used to work at Luomo, but their names escape me. I asked one of them why they switched to Monte Carlo and she said "Luomo tem poucos homens", ie, has too few male customers. Another of these ex-Luomo girls then tried to persuade me by saying "I promise you it will be good...if you're not satisfied, you can have your money back". That's actually a first money-back-guarantee that I've heard straight from a GDP's mouth. Anyway, I declined and after about an hour, I didn't see anything I really liked so I decided to hit Solarium. Btw, total damage at MC was $R60 entry fee.
I arrived at Solarium around 8pm. There were about 30 girls and 15 guys. I immediately sat down with a stunning brunette named Bea. She used to work at Monte Carlo. After some screening, I find out she has an Argentinian boyfriend and she said she "doesn't kiss in the boite", in addition to her being kind of distant in the boite. 3 red flags right there, and no way I can be sure she will kiss once we are in the room...So as appetizing as she was, I decided against taking her upstairs. So Lara (who has a twin sister) was also sitting there at the time. I chatted with her for about an hour. She's a sweet and cute girl. I had sessioned with her before, about 18 months ago. Although I really wanted something different, after awhile, I decided, what the heck, I know she won't disappoint at least. Session was good, just as I remembered. Total damage was $R285 for session and another $R30 for drinks. Damn, this place ain't cheap!
Tomorrow is Mother's Day, and also happens to be my last day in Rio. I have plans to meet a 4x4 girl for lunch. Of course, the way things have been going lately trying to get them to show up, I need a Plan B. [color=red]As far as getting one last hurrah/session in, I think I may be screwed as I know Monte Carlo and Solarium are closed. My one saving grace might be Luomo - I think they were open last May during Mother's Day...[/color]
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party, and went with a group of 6 other people. In the group was myself, my female cousin, an american who teaches favela kids english, and 4 brasilian women. Now going to dinner at someone's house, and taking a cab up the winding roads is another thing.
It was worth the experience, but not for the faint of heart. The music was loud, the girls bangin', and the drinks cold. I was greatly surprised to see the guys with automatic weapons walking in lines through the party, like a patrol or something. I felt like I was dressed perfect for the occasion, but my cousin wished she was wearing less, and looked more like the other girls.
It was a great time. We danced until 5am, then I took my girl home, she had to open the salon at 9am this morning. If you ever hit one of these parties, wear foam ear plugs.
Oh yeah, when were leaving, and just reaching Sa Farreira, I ran into some club girl that I knew.
ryjer
not recommended for everyone!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]True, going into a favela with people walking around with guns is fine. OTOH the thought of having to listen to Baile Funk for hours on end is enough to scare anyone.
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Day 8 - One For The Road
On my final day, I was lucky Luomo happened to be open on Mother's Day and it was the only game in town. I got there at 4:30p and there were literally 4 girls and 5 guys in the boite. I quickly chose one of the girls, Raquel or something. She was new to me, as I have never seen here before. After some quick screening, ie, just kissing and she was very good at it, so I said "vamos".
Once in the cabine, this girl was an animal. I would say this was the best session I have ever had at Luomo and I finally got my 2 pops in for a 40-minute session on this trip - and this was all unassisted by any Viagra. Total damage was $R250. On my way out, I peaked in the boite and there were about 10 girls by 5:45p.
Well, as I say goodbye to this great land, I am very happy I went out in style which already makes me longing for my next trip.
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Scortshow
Anyone ever go to their office and pick out a few girls from their book and then get a nearby hotel and have the ladies show up a few hours apart?
I am thinking this might be a good way to spend an early afternoon before hitting Centro clubs, etc.
I've used their sister agency, Karla Models, for a small party I had a motel before.
If going to Scortshow is a good option - what motel(s) do they like to use nearby their office?
Thanks for any advice.
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.
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Where was the place she wanted to go?
There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.
Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.
Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.
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[QUOTE=Ardgneas]True, going into a favela with people walking around with guns is fine. OTOH the thought of having to listen to Baile Funk for hours on end is enough to scare anyone.[/QUOTE]
They weren't walking around in the streets. I just all of a sudden say them in the building where the dancing was going on. It wasn't fine either, just an unusual experience. I didn't mind the music, in fact it was great. It was just so load where we were hanging out. My ears were closed for the better part of a day.
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[QUOTE=Cachorro]Where was the place she wanted to go?
There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.
Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.
Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.[/QUOTE]
Hotel Copa Linda. It's on N.S. Copacabana and rua Bolivar opposite Roxy Cinema. I think the rates are more like R$50 with R$15 commission to the GDP. Vanity Hotel on N.S. Copacabana and Djalma Ulrich, rates are about R$65. Vanity used to rebate R$10 to the GDPs but I think they discontinued that.
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[QUOTE=Cachorro]Where was the place she wanted to go?
There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.
Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.
Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.[/QUOTE]
Most likely the Praia Lido, the one opposite the park with the big surfboard. But it might have been the Copa Mar.
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Free Entry Coupons for Termas
Where are people getting these coupons for discounted entry
to termas? Do you have to be a member of the termas to get them?
Whats the membership deal with luomo ay the moment?
6 days and counting, starting to get the butterflies now!!
Thanks
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Current Discounts
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Where are people getting these coupons for discounted entry
to termas? Do you have to be a member of the termas to get them?
Whats the membership deal with luomo ay the moment?
6 days and counting, starting to get the butterflies now!!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Monday: Solarium has a discount coupon for free Cabine.
[url]http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php[/url]
Tuesday: Monte Carlo has a discount coupon for a free Cabine.
[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/festainternet.shtml[/url]
Both also have some great specials from time to time like you can pay the entrance but the cost goes toward your drinks. MC has one of those on May 14. Solarium has a R$30 discount also on May 26 (Tuesday).
Also, both Solarium and Monte Carlo have frequent visitor programs. Solarium's is spend R$700 and your entrance is free. MC is spend R$500.
L'uomo no longer has a discount program. However, if you arrive before 7:00 the entrance is R$30. This really is not that big of a deal if you take a girl, since if you take a girl they discount you R$10. Net savings if you take a girl therefore is R$20. But, if you just want to go and hang out, you save R$30.
The entrance to 4x4 is free if you take a girl before 5:00.
Centaurus does not have a discount program. In fact, if you are a gringo they will pad your bill and everyone will have their hand out for a tip. Should you decide to go, just tell them you are not sure you want to go with a girl and they will charge you (unless you are Brazilian or hold your breath until you turn blue) $120. The "normal" charge is R$400 which includes a 40 minute session. Do make sure you ask for a printout of your charges. They will do whatever they can to try to get over on you. I still remember the time they tried to charge me for 16 caipirinhas. The girl I was with weighted all of 95 lbs. The drinks there are small, but still. The girl came to my defense and they reduced it to 8.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks Exec
Great info as usual. I will check their websites before I go to them, and look
for any offers. I think I will leave centaurus alone.
Thanks again
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Hotel Copa Linda. It's on N.S. Copacabana and rua Bolivar opposite Roxy Cinema. I think the rates are more like R$50 with R$15 commission to the GDP. Vanity Hotel on N.S. Copacabana and Djalma Ulrich, rates are about R$65. Vanity used to rebate R$10 to the GDPs but I think they discontinued that.[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Hotel Copa Linda last time I was in Rio. It was R$100/day (didn't ask about hourly rates). I stopped by Vanity to ask what their daily rates were and he told me R$150. These prices make apartments or the Ibis downtown look even more attractive. This aparthotel might be worth checking out [url]http://www.hotel-rio-de-janeiro.com/hotel349-residencial-apartt/apresentacao[/url] They offer free breakfast. However, the last time I wanted to make reservations I was quoted significantly more than the R$110 that the website quotes.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I stayed at the Hotel Copa Linda last time I was in Rio. It was R$100/day (didn't ask about hourly rates).[/QUOTE]
Once when I arrived late in Rio I stayed at Copa Linda for one night. I guess it might be OK (even though expensive) for a short session, but I would never stay there for several days. I hated that place.
At least the room I stayed in was small, no windows, rundown, noisy, lousy AC and an awful plastic covered mattress. :(
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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[/QUOTE]Sperto,
Thank you very much for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive and easy-to-understand list, maps and rating system. I have not been to VM yet (as I have been working on my language skills) and this info arms me with all I need. I feel confident in having a great experience there - even with limited working knowledge of the language.
Two questions:
1. I assume it is good to take the subway and walk into VM from the SC Metro station? I plan on going over during the day. Then walk and take the Metro back.
2. What is the best and safest time(s) to experience VM?
Again, thanks for all the great info and advice here.
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Maiden voyage
Hey guys:
I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:
I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.
Thanks guys
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Once when I arrived late in Rio I stayed at Copa Linda for one night. I guess it might be OK (even though expensive) for a short session, but I would never stay there for several days. I hated that place.
At least the room I stayed in was small, no windows, rundown, noisy, lousy AC and an awful plastic covered mattress. :([/QUOTE]
You hated it? Me too brother, but both of the people I rent apartments from were full. I think she gave me a "premium" room because it had a window on N.S. and a refrigerator. Even worse than the rooms was the mean ass lady behind the desk and they have a breaker box there where they can just switch your a/c off when they want to.
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Gyms
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]Hey guys:
I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:
I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]You will find loads off gyms on ns Copacabana.
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Let me get something straight. you are going to rio, and you want to know where you can get a treadmill? I have an idea. how about you walk outside by the beach. why would you use a treadmill when you will be on one of the most famous beaches in the world.
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Gym
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]Hey guys:
I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:
I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]This is the website of a really big gym, BodyTech, on Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana: [url]http://www.abodytech.com.br/unidades01.asp?nomeunidade=copacabana[/url].
I haven't been in there but have been told it's really impressive.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
Two questions:
1. I assume it is good to take the subway and walk into VM from the SC Metro station? I plan on going over during the day. Then walk and take the Metro back.
2. What is the best and safest time(s) to experience VM?
Again, thanks for all the great info and advice here.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Metro to São Cristóvão and then a short walk to VM. Metro is OK but I prefer to take the bus 455 Meier from Copacabana. Going by metro takes more or less 35 minutes. Taking the bus can take anything between 25-60 minutes. Usually I arrive in 30 minutes when going by bus.
I know that everybody don't share my opinion, but I think VM is perfectly safe. If you go late it's good to take some caution on the way to/and leaving VM.
I think to many mongers give a horror picture of how unsafe VM is. The first time it might seem a bit disturbing, but you'll quickly get used to VM (and love with all of your heart:D).
I guess some people just don't feel comfortable at VM. They "do" VM once just like they do the Sugar Loaf, Cristo and the favela-tour. "Wow, what an awful disgusting place...". No problem at all, we are all different. IMO Rios biggest shithole is called Help. :)
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]
I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.
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The one on Princesa Isabel on the junction of Copa and Leme may suit you. I always use it. Look for the mini supermarket on the Leme side of the street. Nearby is a car rental. You go up one floor in an apartment block and it overlooks the street. (If you scan the windows of the floors above the street from ground level you can see the gym.)
Web site?? Rock on - they spend your money on equipment, not that highfalutin' internetty stuff ;)
It's not the flashiest of gyms in Copa (there are many) but it has a good number of running machines, treadmills, fixed and free weights etc. There is a studio at the back with classes. You can get the price down by a) not having the use of the studio, b) only using it at off-peak times of c) if you are good at haggling. Prices are on the wall behind the reception (to your right as you come to the top of the stairs).
The trainers are all very friendly and give free help and advice.
Can't remember what I paid but I'll look it up and try to add it to the post.* As with any gym, rates will vary depending on how long you are staying. This one is very reasonable, but they will of course whack it up for anything less than a month. Try to avoid the 'day rate.'
[color=gray]*Seems I paid 93R a month. See [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843589&postcount=227"]here[/url] for details. I would add that sometimes the fingerprint scanner (used to admit members) didn't work properly, and occasionally I was asked if I had signed up for the full membership or just off-peak. But there was never any hassle and I never had to produce my receipt. I'd suggest you might want to hang on to your receipt as it's your first visit though.[/color]
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Feira de São Cristóvão
[QUOTE=Sperto]Yes, Metro to São Cristóvão and then a short walk to VM.[/QUOTE]
Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.
[url]http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831[/url]
I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.
[url]http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831[/url]
I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.[/QUOTE]
And bring an appetite. The food there is wonderful (and cheap)!
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What is it
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.
[url]http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831[/url]
I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.[/QUOTE]
Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.[/QUOTE]
It's a big mostly open-air place. Very laid back and, like most of North Zone, full of ordinary people. Nowhere near the Sao Cristovao metro though - the suburb covers quite a large area and also includes Sao Cristovao park that sometimes has nice exhibitions and a fabulous Temple of Apollo that makes for way cool photos surrounded by a lake. The zoo at the end of the park is a bit scruffy but ok for a place to take a garota that goes all gooey over animals (especially if she's never been to a decent zoo). But if you can dance forro (or especially if you dance forro) then the market is a good bet and it won't even break the bank when you spend money on her.
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Feira dos Paraibas
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.[/QUOTE]
The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao. It is enclosed in whar it looks like the shell of a stadium ( you may have seen it on the way into the city from Galeo airport on your right hand side just before the centro on the linha vermelha overpass)
I was there last friday night. The place was rocking. Great forro shows, dancing everywhere and lots of normal people around. Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why.
Lots of GDPs go there to eat and get drunk with their girlfriends at after terma closing time. It is pretty much open all night at the weekends.
As said, the food is fantastic, cheap, and the portions are huge (as are the cholesterol levels) Try "carne do sol" and "baiao a dois"
The most popular restaurant, judging by the number of punters, was Saverina. you will find it towards the end of the middle "promenade".
You can pull a local there with ease if you speak a little portuguese and like to dance (or at least have a low embarrassment threshold) Nobody cares there...
I would shell out 25 reais or so to go there by taxi. There is a rank outside to return. The surrounding area in the dark is pretty sinister. But then I am very cautious and many of you out there walk around VM with ease...
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Feira dos Paraibas - Nordestinos
[QUOTE=July Gan].The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao... Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why.[/QUOTE] Everytime I visit Sao Crisovao I am reminded of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the audience participation line, "Where's your fucking neck?" :D
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Sao Cristovao
[QUOTE=July Gan]The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao. It is enclosed in whar it looks like the shell of a stadium ( you may have seen it on the way into the city from Galeo airport on your right hand side just before the centro on the linha vermelha overpass)
I was there last friday night. The place was rocking. Great forro shows, dancing everywhere and lots of normal people around. Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why.
Lots of GDPs go there to eat and get drunk with their girlfriends at after terma closing time. It is pretty much open all night at the weekends.
As said, the food is fantastic, cheap, and the portions are huge (as are the cholesterol levels) Try "carne do sol" and "baiao a dois"
The most popular restaurant, judging by the number of punters, was Saverina. you will find it towards the end of the middle "promenade".
You can pull a local there with ease if you speak a little portuguese and like to dance (or at least have a low embarrassment threshold) Nobody cares there...
I would shell out 25 reais or so to go there by taxi. There is a rank outside to return. The surrounding area in the dark is pretty sinister. But then I am very cautious and many of you out there walk around VM with ease...[/QUOTE]
I remember leaving Sao Cristovao one particular night last June with a group of Brasilian friends. As we crossed the street to catch a bus back to Ipanema, I realized there was a blue neon light above a staircase close to the corner, across the street from the main entrance.
I told my friends to wait a minute as I wanted to take a peak, yep, my hunch was right........termas. I noticed a bar set up, no ac, bunch of garotas in bikinis with high heels walking around making the rounds. Jeez, it was dark as hell in there. Being that my friends were with their wives or girlfriends, I quickly went outside, and got in the bus. Just thought someone could check it out, or give some sort of feedback.
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BodyTech
[QUOTE=Huntsman]This is the website of a really big gym, BodyTech, on Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana: [url]http://www.abodytech.com.br/unidades01.asp?nomeunidade=copacabana[/url].
I haven't been in there but have been told it's really impressive.[/QUOTE]
This place is extremely expensive, even by American standards. I was a member for just over a month to the one located a block away from Rua Visconde de Piraja, closer to the Leblon area. There is another in Ipanema, right on Visconde de Piraja, accross the street from the park. I think its on the same block as the citibank.
It is an excellent gym, with your own trainer for every session you show up for. I was not interested in the personal tran. since I already know my fair share of Exercise Phys. and athletic trainning. I still ended up paying around $125.00 US for those few weeks. Damn expensive. Oh, and that was over 3 years ago. Must be more costly now.
I use smaller gyms, and bargain for a deal according to my length of stay. Also, I have used the Muscle Beach outdoor gym which usually is set up in November - December time.
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paraibas
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Everytime I visit Sao Crisovao I am reminded of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the audience participation line, "Where's your fucking neck?" :D[/QUOTE]
I was being polite. I am afraid your assessment is cruel but 100% correct! LOL
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Paraibas
[QUOTE=July Gan]I was being polite. I am afraid your assessment is cruel but 100% correct! LOL[/QUOTE]
Originally a brasiliera described Nordestinas to me as no neck, etc. I then made the segue to the Rocky show. Obviously there are some beautiful Nordestinas. Miss Braisil 2009 is an example.
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Feira dos Paraibas
Going there:
1. Taxi.
2. Bus 474 from Copa.
3. Metro to São Cristóvão and then a 15 minutes quick walk.
Note: VM is very close to Feira dos Paraibas. 15 minutes walk and you enter from the back-side (cross a railway).
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Balcony Bar
Was walking the strip last night when I realized I was in front of Balcony. It was pretty empty, but the singer was interesting, so I stayed. Had more than a few beers. Some working comes over and asks for a cigarette, no problem. The she tells me this is her first time there and asks if I want some company. When I politely decline, she goes on and on about her skills. Talk about over kill.
Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?
ryjer
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Feira de Nordeste
In Rio the Feira de Paraiba is more known as the Feira de Nordeste.
This place really rocks on Friday, Saturday and to some extend on Sunday. You find everything there, from the 10/10 GdP to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. But this place really really ROCKS!
I usually go there with my "dentista" on Friday evenings and I really have a ball there. Good music. Good and cheap food. Good drinks and then she is driving me home to a 5-star fuck. Gentlemen. This is life after 50!
Actually I had today a terrible day. I had to burry my budy of 40 years and my business associate. My his soul rest in peace.
He got only 58 years old. He was also a monger on the Thailand thread.
This shows how fucking short life is and that you have to use every second of it on our hobby.
When I look at some of these stupid flame-wars going on on the board I really ask myself if it is worth getting involved. I was also some time ago victim of some of the "flames".
Really. Life is too short to waste time on that. Enjoy your life and enjoy all the girls you can get your hands on and your cocks in!
These are my three centavos for today!
Carlos
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Balcony
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob].....
Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Not yet. But there are two good looking girl ones there IMO. One white (Hispanic looking) and one young black girl. I spoken to them both a few times, but I did not get a strong vibe that they were available. Maybe I was just being too polite as usual. I mean they are working as waitresses not GdPs. Perhaps next time I will ask one out for a date while making small talk. Lets see what happens. Unless one of you lucky guys get to them first.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Going there:
1. Taxi.
2. Bus 474 from Copa.
3. Metro to São Cristóvão and then a quick 15 minutes walk.
Note: VM is very close to Feira dos Paraibas. 15 minutes walk and you enter from the back-side (cross a railway).[/QUOTE]thank you for the details, sperto.
are there taxis out of there? I'm thinking of taking a bus to Vila Mimosa and taxi back to ipenema, if taxis wait in VM anywhere.
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The Inner Circle
I must say, this has been my best trip yet. I have spent a total of R$270 on girls and have gotten laid every day, repeatedly. Once you're accepted as part of someone's family, they go out of their way to set you up. So I'm dating this 24y/o hairdresser, and it's pretty cool. Today after they closed, the owner took us out for drinks, and actually paid the entire bill.
Another member of the same family is trying to set me up with another woman who works at another salon. This is wild......................, I mean all these women from these salons are practically throwing themselves at me. I can't get over it. There's so much free pussy out there, and all because I've been adopted. And they all want to talk to me.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I must say, this has been my best trip yet. I have spent a total of are$270 on girls and have gotten laid every day, repeatedly. Once you're accepted as part of someone's family, they go out of their way to set you up. So I'm dating this 24y/o hairdresser, and it's pretty cool. Today after they closed, the owner took us out for drinks, and actually paid the entire bill.
Another member of the same family is trying to set me up with another woman who works at another salon. This is wild. , I mean all these women from these salons are practically throwing themselves at me. I can't get over it. There's so much free pussy out there, and all because I've been adopted. And they all want to talk to me.
Ryjer[/QUOTE]Where can I meet this family?
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Originally a brasiliera described Nordestinas to me as no neck, etc. I then made the segue to the Rocky show. Obviously there are some beautiful Nordestinas. Miss Braisil 2009 is an example.[/QUOTE]
Dude. I had to stop dating a chick in Rio who is from Belem because of that exact thing. One day I just woke up and thought to myself, "she doesn't have a neck!" And it completely turned me off.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Was walking the strip last night when I realized I was in front of Balcony. It was pretty empty, but the singer was interesting, so I stayed. Had more than a few beers. Some working comes over and asks for a cigarette, no problem. The she tells me this is her first time there and asks if I want some company. When I politely decline, she goes on and on about her skills. Talk about over kill.
Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?
ryjer[/QUOTE]No, the white waitress is well fuckable though. She wears a ring on her weeding finger. She's been there over a year.
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Balcony waitresses
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]No, the white waitress is well fuckable though. She wears a ring on her weeding finger. She's been there over a year.[/QUOTE]
The waitresses in Balcony are hard to get to. First of all quite a few of them are manager's / owners girlfriends and thus they won't go with (other) gringo. Also in the past they simply were fired if they were caucht talking to the customers, not to mention if they were giving phone numbers.
So, from the current ones I seriously doubt that it is possible to "date" any of them. Maybe some of the new ones might go, but the old (meaning who have been there for a few years) ones won't even talk to you outside of Balcony.
That being said, my experience is that 99,9999999999% of women between 18 - 99 in Copacabana are able and willing to give you some if there is an opportunity. Just remember, there is no free lunch in Copa.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Where can I meet this family?[/QUOTE]
Not this particular family, just knowing someone in general. The sister wants me for her friend, and the sister in-law wants me for another friend. And because their friends see me as one of the family, especially at the salons where they work, everyone seems to be openly flirting with me.
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Sexy Copacabana is a myth.
"Swaying palmtrees, paradise-like beach and a lot of young beautiful people."
or
"Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil."
30% of the population in Copa are over the age of 60. Imagine in the 50's when all these old people were young. There must have been a lot of nice and sexy women in Copa.
One of the best thing with Copacabana is that it's close to Ipanema. :D
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[QUOTE=Sperto]"Swaying palmtrees, paradise-like beach and a lot of young beautiful people."
or
"Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil."
30% of the population in Copa are over the age of 60. Imagine in the 50's when all these old people were young. There must have been a lot of nice and sexy women in Copa.
One of the best thing with Copacabana is that it's close to Ipanema. :D[/QUOTE]Amen to that!
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Sexy Copacabana is.........
[QUOTE=Sperto]....Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil....[/QUOTE]
Sperto I quote you so much and this was what, when during my first day I went to copa, made think how is overated Brazil, even if, yes, yes... terma girls are terma girls... I know....
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Sperto I quote you so much and this was what, when during my first day I went to copa, made think how is overated Brazil, even if, yes, yes... terma girls are terma girls... I know....[/QUOTE]
Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.
Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.
P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]thank you for the details, sperto.
are there taxis out of there? I'm thinking of taking a bus to Vila Mimosa and taxi back to ipenema, if taxis wait in VM anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Yes, right on the frontstep to the ho-houses.
(They have pretty nice jobs.:))
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Dude. I had to stop dating a chick in Rio who is from Belem because of that exact thing. One day I just woke up and thought to myself, "she doesn't have a neck!" And it completely turned me off.[/QUOTE]
If this is her, the body looks OK. Did she have the characteristic square head? Kkkkk :D
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.
Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.
P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.[/QUOTE]So where is the clitoris?
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How about S.P.?
[QUOTE=Sperto]Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.
Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.
P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.[/QUOTE]
Where does SP fall into the anatomy of the human body?
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Where does SP fall into the anatomy of the human body?[/QUOTE]
It's the brain.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.
Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.
P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.[/QUOTE]
Dude you f--king crack me up. That was good!
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Sperto's Anatomy
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]So where is the clitoris?[/QUOTE]
Everything was somewhat in order until I got to Manaus. How did the vagina get so far astray from the anus? The clit must be either Niteroi or Belem. :)
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Regular Clubs in Rio
Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.
I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Marcoooo]Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.
I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.
Cheers[/QUOTE]melt (leblon)
nuth (barra da tijua)
zero zero (gavea)
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Where To Stay In Rio
Can Anyone Recommend A Hotel In Rio That Is In A Good Safe Area That Is Not Pricey? I Am Going To Rio For The First Time And Have No Clue Where To Stay. I Want To Be Able To Walk To The Beach And Clubs. Going For Two Weeks In August.
Thanks Randy
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It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]melt (leblon)
nuth (barra da tijua)
zero zero (gavea)[/QUOTE]
Club 69 (ipanema - 2 blocks from General Osorio)
Baronnetti (praca 1 Ipanema)
Cyrstal Lounge (next door barronetti)
Sky Lounge (Lagoa)
Dolce Vitta (next door Balcony Bar Copacabana)
To name a few extra regular clubs that ive frequented recently in addition to the above clubs mentioned
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[QUOTE=Marcoooo]Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.
I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Symbol is a nice club also. Has a ground level party area, a separate bar section to the right, and a large upstairs party area. Great for meeting civilians (means normal girls - not GdPs)!
The club is in Centro near the Carioca metro station.
They also have a web site. You can google it.
PL99
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[QUOTE=Marcoooo]Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.
I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
check out [url]www.nightrio.com[/url]
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Thanks!
Seems there is quite a bit going on!
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[QUOTE=Cartaa]Can Anyone Recommend A Hotel In Rio That Is In A Good Safe Area That Is Not Pricey? I Am Going To Rio For The First Time And Have No Clue Where To Stay. I Want To Be Able To Walk To The Beach And Clubs. Going For Two Weeks In August. [/QUOTE]
Thanks Randy
Try this site for hotels: [url]http://www.ipanema.com/hotel/index.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=Alias]Can anyone recommend a sex tour guide?
I need someone who knows their way around Rio's red light district.
Or at least someone who speaks portuguese and knows how to find the things I like.
I'm not into the vanilla action (BJ, FS), thus the reports on this site don't help much.
I'm into the BDSM & Fetish & Orgy scene. (e. G. Wild crazy sex).[/QUOTE]Lumo speaks English, is a GDP that is into fetish and domination. She might be a good jumping off point for you:
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=179&n=Luma+Toledo[/url]
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Lumo
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Lumo speaks English, is a GDP that is into fetish and domination. She might be a good jumping off point for you:
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=179&n=Luma+Toledo[/url][/QUOTE]Very promising. Did you do her? Do you know her rates?
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Villa Mimosa vs. Help
This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.
VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.
Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!
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[QUOTE=Alias]Can anyone recommend a sex tour guide?
I need someone who knows their way around Rio's red light district.
Or at least someone who speaks portuguese and knows how to find the things I like.
I'm not into the vanilla action (BJ, FS), thus the reports on this site don't help much.
I'm into the BDSM & Fetish & Orgy scene. (e. G. Wild crazy sex).[/QUOTE]Check with Don or Ken at amerioca.net.
They provide services.
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VM Low down
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.
VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.
Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!
Congrats.. Hope to see you in The V!!! Have fun I will be back next month.
Ace
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L'uomo Discount Clarified
L'uomo has a discount of R$30 off the entrance if you take a girl (that is the asterisk on their poster) before 7:00. If you do not take a girl, no discount. Since before there was a R$10 discount if you took a girl, the net actually is R$20.
Last night there were a number of new girls, several with beautiful faces. Cannot comment on performances, but definitely some real lookers.
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Day 1
Arrived on my first visit to Brazil early this morning.
Had a lovely view of Rio all lit up as we flew in, all the
lights on the ground went on for miles.
Got settled into my apartment and thought I would do some
grocery shopping. Shopping has never been so enjoyable, big
bunda everywhere. My heart was beating out my chest.
It was a nice day so decided to hit the beach. I was walking
past the Othlon palace but right next to the waves and a brazilian
guy pulled me and started walking and talking with me. It was all about
getting me into his bar up there and hooking me up with some garottas.
I've read the reports about these guys so I said yeah maybe later. I walked the legnth
of the beach and headed back and walked up to the street just before Othlon, and guess what,
another guy stops me. Same tactics as the other, and then suddenly theres shouting and
the guy from before comes running up shouting in porto, Anyway 2 and 2 together, he's saying
I saw this gringo 1st blah blah.
I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?
Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?
Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled. LOL[/QUOTE]Just be firm with these touts, you do not need their services and are "siteseeing", In Copa, go a few feet to the left of Othon and sit in EL Moreno's section. His tent says "Moreno", he speaks English and is very honest, he works with his wife and daughter and has been in Posto 5 in this spot for over 20 years. Rent a chair, and buy beer from this guy, and he will never rip you off. Stay away from the other scumbags!
Make sure you check out the scene in Posto 9 in Ipanema on a Saturday or Sunday, wear a loose pair of trunks, you are gonna have wood from the garotas. 95% of them are NON Pro, but in front of Caesar Park Hotel there are a handful of semi pros looking for action. Much nicer scene than Othon, you have normal cariocas and no touts.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Arrived on my first visit to Brazil early this morning.
Had a lovely view of Rio all lit up as we flew in, all the
lights on the ground went on for miles.
Got settled into my apartment and thought I would do some
grocery shopping. Shopping has never been so enjoyable, big
bunda everywhere. My heart was beating out my chest.
It was a nice day so decided to hit the beach. I was walking
past the Othlon palace but right next to the waves and a brazilian
guy pulled me and started walking and talking with me. It was all about
getting me into his bar up there and hooking me up with some garottas.
I've read the reports about these guys so I said yeah maybe later. I walked the legnth
of the beach and headed back and walked up to the street just before Othlon, and guess what,
another guy stops me. Same tactics as the other, and then suddenly theres shouting and
the guy from before comes running up shouting in porto, Anyway 2 and 2 together, he's saying
I saw this gringo 1st blah blah.
I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?
Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol[/QUOTE]
Two words you need to learn right away. Não Obrigado. (No thanks.) Smile, wave your hand in a back and forth movement and move on.
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I just got back....I also met this guy in front of Help who was offering everything from drugs to cheap 50 real pussy, dude spoke perfect english and said he was from Miami. He looked shady to say the least so I ignored him, he eventually got the message and went away...I will muster a full report soon but here are some quick observations
GDP talent has gone down, but Brazil is STILL Brazil.
I never went inside Help but the talent outside was nothing to write home about. I was able to pull a nice hottie in front of Help for 150 reals for the rest of the night (2:30AM-8:00AM)
I got my first CBJ in Rio..
I was played by a 4x4 girl who promised to meet me and didnt, but my wingman got lucky and got a MC girl for free for the rest of the trip. She even paid the 150 real fine herself!! And was acting like a GF who wouldnt get naked in front of me even thoug I watched her ass butt naked getting eaten out during a MC show..go figure .LOL!!
4x4 still is the place to find the largest bundas if that is your thing (its mine!), however, MC still has good talent, but overall quality has gone down.
then there was Amanda from MC..wow..more to come..
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My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.
So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]
I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?
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Don't let them get close, if you spot them first, give them the "Mutombo" finger wag. btw what's giving you away as a tourist, is it clothes, mannerisms, etc?
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[QUOTE=Keldeção]My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.
So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?[/QUOTE]
I was actually going to shut it down for the night but I decided to respond to your post...How is it going man?
Well, knowing your history from previous posts, you will LOVE this other bahiana who works there..sorry I forgot her name, big bunda, allows anal and can deep throat....but she absolutely would NOT allow any pics...in fact most of the girls at MC refused pics. all I heard Internetch! internetch!! Gee thnks fellas for ruining our memories..
A brief homage to Amanda..(she has a a fairy tatoo shooting an arrow on her back) This trip I made it to MC three times despite my criticisms, the first night, the new mgr did not recognize me so he gave me a tour, but I did not like the talent so I walked out. I went back the next night and sessioned with the dark skinned bahiana, she was great but I got pissed when she wouldnt let me take pics, I also saw laura (big lips) who has been working there 6 yrs she gave me this snickering look. She rememebered me from way back and complained why I have never taken her. I brought her a drink and promised I would session with her next time if she put those grande labias to work on meu pao!!. She promised she would rock my world. I went back the next day, she also refused pics but she put those lips to work, it was a very good session but a bit professional, I asked her to call me the next day, she did not--so on to the next, it was after the session, I saw amanda...she is about 5-6 big bunda, silicone breasts...I was spent so I said I would return the next day to session with her, besides it was late and my tab was nearing 350 reals..decided to call it a night after flirlting with her.
I went to MC on the next day right after it opened..I was the only male in the boite several GDPs gave me come hither looks but I ignored them, I went to the cool tv room and then I saw Amanda walk in,I quickly snatched her up
She came out with this see through loungerie robe with lined with fur...and nothing under..WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW instant wood.!! I had girls with bigger bundas but hers was both big and soft...it was like holding two sof but firm pillows in your hand..he skin is flawless except for two tatoos, very soft and her pussy is amazingly tight for a 24 yr old GDP with a 7 year old. She was sensual, gave great head and matched me stroke for stroke...then told me too bad I waited so long (two visits) to pick her ouch!...I am the type of monger who loves new pussy, I see brazil as a ice cream shop where u can choose a new flavor each day,..I rarely repeat, but I am dreaming of going back to session with amanda...it was that good..
I was also supposed to try out Luma Toledo, but brazil being brazil I did not have the time..if anyone have a face pic and recent experiences..pls post.
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Decided to stay in last night as I feeling pretty tired
from the flight. Had a quick look down at MP but it was quite
empty, so I headed back and decided to try an internet site.
So I ended up using hotside, I tried to call luciana below but she hung
as she didn't understand me.
[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=721[/url]
So I called Paola and I'm glad I did;
[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=626[/url]
She passed her phone to her friend who spoke abit of english and she
started negotiations off at 350? But I stood my ground at 200 for 2 hours.
She was complteta and very sensual with everything. She screamed the house
down when she took it in the ass. She's got a beautiful smile with cute dimples.
This was no bait and switch, but she has put on afew pounds since those pictures
were taken. I managed to get one pic of her as she was leaving which I will post later.
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Help
I never went into Help but I did hang outside for two nights to watch the action, and man...the GDPs were gruesome save for a few 8s here and there. I saw Kelly formely of Monte Carlo and ms porno star, I called her over and asked how much she charged..FOUR HUNDRED REALS, TLN? I inquired, I was told matter of factly..for ONE HOUR..I busted out laughing and waved her away. She did not appreciate it and walked away salty. Thankfully, I did not witness any mongers accepting that nonsense.
On one night I eyed this cute receptionist, I chatted her up and asked how much, I think she said 300 reals for a few hours, I said hell no offered R200 for TLN she said no..wingman and I hung out for a bit and went back to the apt, at 2:30am we returned and she was still there with no takers..negotiation started once again, now at 2:30 I said 150 reals until 8am, after some haggling, she insisted that we had to take her no so cute harpie friend for 120 reals (wingman took the fall)..so 270 total for a festinah right? so we thought..we got to the apt and stories began to change as harpie was none too pleased when she realized that she was getting less. I was getting pissed, and I almost killed the deal until we decided to scrap the festina and go until 8am in our rooms. That is when I got my first CBJ in RIo, I was pissed!! she pleaded and tried to get me to understand, i was loosing my hardon, finally I decided to make the best of it and started to fuck. She was surprisingly passionate once we started, great bunda and a real tight pussy--it was a pleasant surprise after all that hassle. In the morning, the harpie comes knocking and wanted to leave, she didnt but the harpie insisted so I paid and walked them out..(outside of help we were dressed in short and tshirts, but once the GDPs saw the freaking apt (two level penthouse), they wanted to change the deal..fuck me!)
I also met another friend, she used to charge top dollar and although she still looks good, the bunda is not as firm after four years. She told me that a monger from Ohio will help her get a visa, she plans to stay with him awhile, then she will dump him, she is also a hardcore lesbian now and invited me to a lesbian club but I declined, her friends were ugly as hell!! I asked her if she would let me fuck her if we met in Ohio and she said yes..so guys beware and be warned..did I say she was hardcore?
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[QUOTE=Carrib]I never went into Help but I did hang outside for two nights to watch the action, and man...the GDPs were gruesome save for a few 8s here and there. I saw Kelly formely of Monte Carlo and ms porno star, I called her over and asked how much she charged..FOUR HUNDRED REALS, TLN? I inquired, I was told matter of factly..for ONE HOUR..I busted out laughing and waved her away. She did not appreciate it and walked away salty. Thankfully, I did not witness any mongers accepting that nonsense.
On one night I eyed this cute receptionist, I chatted her up and asked how much, I think she said 300 reals for a few hours, I said hell no offered R200 for TLN she said no..wingman and I hung out for a bit and went back to the apt, at 2:30am we returned and she was still there with no takers..negotiation started once again, now at 2:30 I said 150 reals until 8am, after some haggling, she insisted that we had to take her no so cute harpie friend for 120 reals (wingman took the fall)..so 270 total for a festinah right? so we thought..we got to the apt and stories began to change as harpie was none too pleased when she realized that she was getting less. I was getting pissed, and I almost killed the deal until we decided to scrap the festina and go until 8am in our rooms. That is when I got my first CBJ in RIo, I was pissed!! she pleaded and tried to get me to understand, i was loosing my hardon, finally I decided to make the best of it and started to fuck. She was surprisingly passionate once we started, great bunda and a real tight pussy--it was a pleasant surprise after all that hassle. In the morning, the harpie comes knocking and wanted to leave, she didnt but the harpie insisted so I paid and walked them out..(outside of help we were dressed in short and tshirts, but once the GDPs saw the freaking apt (two level penthouse), they wanted to change the deal..fuck me!)
I also met another friend, she used to charge top dollar and although she still looks good, the bunda is not as firm after four years. She told me that a monger from Ohio will help her get a visa, she plans to stay with him awhile, then she will dump him, she is also a hardcore lesbian now and invited me to a lesbian club but I declined, her friends were ugly as hell!! I asked her if she would let me fuck her if we met in Ohio and she said yes..so guys beware and be warned..did I say she was hardcore?[/QUOTE]2 level penthouse, any photo's off apartment? Who did you rent it from? At what price? Help and ta and mp is a waste off time nowadays. The garotas are ordinary looking, too many favela girls have took over and sadly mongers are paying them top dollar. so the few nice ones are asking for 400+ reals.. Nothing beats the termas.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol[/QUOTE]
Brother that will never pass. Especially when in centro. At least it hasn't passed for me after all these years.
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Centro
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Brother that will never pass. Especially when in centro. At least it hasn't passed for me after all these years.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you about No Centro. I can just sit or stand around while drinking a suco and watching all of the nice variations of ass waliking up and down the streets in this area.
I have made it a point to hang around this area more often and make more of an effort to hit on the garotas in this location. Speaking the language is a must, and I feel confident enough in the using my portuguese to start being more agressive in downtown Rio.
Rua Visconde de Piraja in Ipanema has some incredible looking women as well in the morning/late afternoon waliking up and down when going/comming from work. Many of these non gdp's have sugar daddy's. Different breed than copa girls. But its a different challenge if you are up to it.
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[quote=Koolkid]
I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass[/quote][QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Brother that will never pass. [/QUOTE]
I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.
When I first came to Rio I couldn't walk in flip flops cos I'd trip over the cracks, the bl**dy uneven pavements. Probably enjoying the scenery the same as you. I got quite a few bloody toes. I think I must walk differently now as the flip flops are an extension of my feet. Still wear trainers at night unless it's just local slumming though.
Nice to know someone is enjoying the scenery :D
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.
When I first came to Rio I couldn't walk in flip flops cos I'd trip over the cracks, the bl**dy uneven pavements. Probably enjoying the scenery the same as you. I got quite a few bloody toes. I think I must walk differently now as the flip flops are an extension of my feet. Still wear trainers at night unless it's just local slumming though.
Nice to know someone is enjoying the scenery :D[/QUOTE]Speaking of tripping my first trip I was looking at the girls and a vendor had his CDs DVDs etc. Laying on th ground and I walked right over them and before I knew it all I felt and heard was crunch crunch crunch.
Being black I think I turned red
Funny
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Tripping over pavement
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol[/QUOTE]
You will never stop tripping over pavement. Get use to it also get a Chiropractor to fix your neck from snapping at all the bunda... Have fun.. I enjoy getting up in the mornings and going to central to the office buildings and just watching it go by then get into BA85 around 10ish then over to the private places where business professionals slide by on their way home. It is just so relaxing watching bunda all day....
Here is a bunda worth following... sorry about the quality of photo it was taken by cell phone. enjoy
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Rio vs Sampa clubs
I've never been to Rio and am considering a last minute detour there instead of SP where I've been 10+ times. I've read through a few pages here and it seems like the top club in Rio is Help but the talent has gone way down? Any other noteworthy clubs similar to Cafe Photo or Bomboa where you can see 9's and 10's or clinicas like Palms in SP? I have met alot of girls from Rio who go to SP just to work because they make more money and can ask for more. So then alot of the good talent went to SP? No point in me heading to Rio if alot of the hot Rio garotas are in SP but SP is starting to get boring.
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Tripin
Here is a bunda they may make u trip over the sand!!! gotta LOVE IT!!
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes it's not only the pavements in VM that have shit in their cracks.
Then you might have to clean something else than your trainers. :(
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Sometimes it's not only the pavements in VM that have shit in their cracks.
Then you might have to clean something else than your trainers. :([/QUOTE]
I always try to use one hand for eating and one hand for . . .
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[QUOTE=Chris H]Here is a bunda they may make u trip over the sand!!! gotta LOVE IT!![/QUOTE]
DAMN Chris, Now that ASS is something SERIOUS!!! SH*T!!!!
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In Rio and Can't Take a Shower
After spending a wonderful night with my GFE, we had wonderful sex the next morning. I did my job on her, and she hit the shower first. My turn in the bathroom, and I sat on the throne to rid myself of Brazilian BBQ from the day before. When I hit the magic button to flush my throne, nothing happened. Then, I realized all the water is off. I called the guy who rented me the apartment thinging the owner didn't pay his water bill. WTF, water is off all over Rio de Janeiro. Then I hear a helicopter and gunfire. I said that can't be gunfire. I lisen to the news and realize a shootout took place in a local Copa favela, and the Rio water people decides to fix their water system in the middle of the day.
No problem with the shootout, but I can't take a f*&$ shower. My GFE smells great, but I stink. At 11am they say the water will be on at 6pm. It is now 5:30p and I am waiting for water to shower.
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[QUOTE=Hobbying]I've never been to Rio and am considering a last minute detour there instead of SP where I've been 10+ times. I've read through a few pages here and it seems like the top club in Rio is Help but the talent has gone way down? Any other noteworthy clubs similar to Cafe Photo or Bomboa where you can see 9's and 10's or clinicas like Palms in SP? I have met alot of girls from Rio who go to SP just to work because they make more money and can ask for more. So then alot of the good talent went to SP? No point in me heading to Rio if alot of the hot Rio garotas are in SP but SP is starting to get boring.[/QUOTE]If you never been to Rio, you should definitely make the detour. The only thing that is more expensive in Rio than in Sao Paulo is the price of the hotel room but if you rent an apartment from any number of reputable 'brokers' then it will cost less than Sao Paulo. The 'action' is definitely less expensive than Sao Paulo and the best thing about Rio is probably the Termas. I have not yet been to Eu y Elas in Sao Paulo so I can't make the comparison but 4x4, Monte Carlo, Solarium & L'uomo should be experienced in the life of any monger!
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Rio in august
Anyone going to Rio in August that would be willing to show me some of the good clubs. Only going for a couple of weeks. Rio seem so large that I am sure it would take some time to find the clubs. I have been to many countries but never to Brazil.
Thanks Randy
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[QUOTE=Acenva][QUOTE=MrLowDown]This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.
VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.
Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!
Congrats.. Hope to see you in The V!!! Have fun I will be back next month.
Ace[/QUOTE]Bingo! Now you see what some of us Rio regulars have been doing for the past 7 years. HELPIE garotas are not worth it. I stumbled on a guy at 4x4 on Monday that paid $R500 TLN for a Helpie girl. I took him to VM and he vowed never to pay a freaking chick at Help again. Told him not to worry since Help will be closing Nov
Welcome to Rio.
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[QUOTE=Keldeção]My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.
So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?[/QUOTE]Same here. I assume this is the same "Caribman" from the UMV days. If so, long time bro. This is X-Man from UMV.
I just got back from Rio on Wednesday. Did MC & L'uomo on Sunday and 4x4 on Mon & Tues.
Did you say Kelly from MC? As in Kelly Matuso with the tatoo on her lower waist (white with blond hair)
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]After spending a wonderful night with my GFE, we had wonderful sex the next morning. I did my job on her, and she hit the shower first. My turn in the bathroom, and I sat on the throne to rid myself of Brazilian BBQ from the day before. When I hit the magic button to flush my thrown, nothing happened. Then, I realized all the water is off. I called the guy who rented me the apartment thingking the owner didn't pay his water bill. WTF, water is off all over Rio de Janeiro. Then I hear a helicopter and gunfire. I said that can't be gunfire. I lisen to the news and realize a shootout took place in a local Copa favela, and the Rio water people decides to fix their water system.
No problem with the shootout, but I can't take a f*&$ shower. My GFE smells great, but I stink. At 11am they say the water will be on at 6pm. It is now 5:30p and I am waiting for water to shower.[/QUOTE]
My apartment is right next to what was happening. It was a sight to see. The helicopters were flying in and out of the blocks and circling the favela letting of multiple rounds. Everyone was in doorways or hanging out of their windows watching. Amazing to see for a first timer in Rio. Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.
KK
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.[/QUOTE]
Poor girls who worked the R$ 1/minute casas. Imagine how they felt after 15 customers and no water to wash their periquitas.
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My first visit to Centro
Made my first visit to a terma on thursday and went in heads
first and went to 4x4. All I can say is WOW. For anyone planning
to vist Rio, this terma is a must.
I love the whole set up they have in there. You can seriously loose track of time
when you are in there. I sessioned before 5pm and the enterance was waived.
I picked a beautiful lady, but have forgotten her name.I love the way
you can make out with the girls and not even have to take them for a session.
I took a cabin for an hour. I found the cabin abit small
and we both used the wall with our feet on occasions. Thanks to Ken for showing me
how to get to this place. This man knows all the ladies working there and they all
come up and kiss hime and say hello. He works the room well!
We also looked at BA85. I like the seedy feel to it, it was quite busy when we were there
lots of brazillian guys. So I'm worried about that and also my lack of porto. But I'm gonna
go back on monday earlier in the morning, and then later onto 4x4.
Yesterday we looked at some of the smaller Casas de Massagem in centro. The first 2 were ok, but the
3rd had the best amount of young girls with curves. This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think. All the girls come out and introduce themselves indivdually, some
with great curves. I chose Bruna. Great body and bunda with large natural breasts. I paid 110 for an hour
in the suite. I took a shower and she came in wearing a red corset type all in one thong thing with high heels.
Anyway we got down to it. She gave one of the best blow jobs I have probably had. Her sex skills are A+. Deep throat, spits all over the dick, balls ass the lot! She starts to ride me and nearly snaps my dick. I last about 10 mins! So shes back down there, then abit of doggy, 10 minutes more blowing it ends with a happy ending on her chin. She has the skills of porn star for sure so I rate her an A++.
She reminded me off Sara Jay
I think she would be up for anal but I was just too wacked.
But because of my lack of porto there was no
talking and I felt her quite cold at the end no smiling or eye contact.
I took a card at reception with the email address and phone numbers on it so heres the web page.
Webpage[url]http://belprazer.com/[/url]
Address [url]http://www.apontador.com.br/local/rj/rio_de_janeiro/night_clubs/342EBY78/casa_de_massagens_bel_prazer.html[/url]
Centro is a mad busy place, but once you get your bearings its ok. I felt safe walking around there. I had afew looks from people but that was it!
Had a night in last night to re-charge the batteries and hopefully meeting a school teacher later for a day on
the beach, maybe luomo tonight!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think.[/QUOTE]
Great report.
Belprazer is in sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185.
They have a very nice selection. Unfortunately it's almost to popular as you might have to wait some time for a vacant cabin. I actually went there a few times, chose a girl and left after been waiting to long for a vacant cabin.
P.S Bruna looks very hot. :P
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Belprazer
[QUOTE=Koolkid] Yesterday we looked at some of the smaller Casas de Massagem in centro. The first 2 were ok, but the 3rd had the best amount of young girls with curves. This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think. All the girls come out and introduce themselves indivdually, some with great curves.
Webpage[url]http://belprazer.com/[/url]
Address [url]http://www.apontador.com.br/local/rj/rio_de_janeiro/night_clubs/342EBY78/casa_de_massagens_bel_prazer.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. What time did you go to Belpazer? I assume before noon is best. Total damage for GDP and cabine was R$110?
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Great report.
Belprazer is in sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185.
They have a very nice selection. Unfortunately it's almost to popular as you might have to wait some time for a vacant cabin. I actually went there a few times, chose a girl and left after been waiting to long for a vacant cabin.
P.S Bruna looks very hot. :P[/QUOTE]
Yes there was a steady flow of men entering when I was there. They also
need to oil up the hinges on all the doors as they make a racket evertime the
girls go in and out, which every 10 seconds when I was there lol
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[QUOTE=MrLowDown] I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
There is another convert to my area of town. Did you have to write such a glowing report? You are encouraging others to make that voyage. Really Mr. Low Down meant to say it is a run down stinky place with only 5s. Please correct your report MrLow Down, lol.
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VM Hours?
Are the bars open in the early afternoon. Or is this strictly an evening place? I'm sure it gets busier at night. But am thinking about venturing a trip while it is still light out. I am new to Centro but wanting to explore. I searched the forums and could not find the hours that VM is open.
Thanks in advance.
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Disco voador
Watch out for a UFO in Rio tonight.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]My apartment is right next to what was happening. It was a sight to see. The helicopters were flying in and out of the blocks and circling the favela letting of multiple rounds. Everyone was in doorways or hanging out of their windows watching. Amazing to see for a first timer in Rio. Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.
KK[/QUOTE]
I asked my girlfriend about that water thing that happened yesterday. Now she wants to know where I am getting my info from because it wasn't in the paper or the internet. But she said it was stopped from the water treatment plant that supplies everything.
Then that helicopter deal. She said that two gangsters died from exchanging gunfire with the cops. They wrapped them in plastic for the helicopters to take them to the hospital. What they really ended up dying from was being wrapped in the plastic and not from getting shot. I guess they suffocated or something.
como sabe oq aconteceu com a agua? nao saiu no jornal e nem na internet
mrenternational says:
poxa. acha que nao sei nada do meu pais?
ॐ says:
eu estou falando que nao saiu nada nos jornais sobre isso entao como sabe
mrenternational:
e eu estou falando que vc acha que eu nao sei nada do que acontece no rio?
ॐ says :
eu quero saber como? pergunta pra quem de deu a informação. deve *** sido outra namorada sua do brasil. namorada burra, ainda. fala, como vc saoube
mrenternational says:
o que aconteceu mulher?
ॐ says:
houve um tratamento d'agua no rio guandu. oq abastece tudo
mrenternational says:
ta. mas o que aconteceu na favela?
ॐ says:
favela nao tem agua nunca pq é encanação ilegal. eles nao pagam agua.
mrenternational says:
nao. mas ontem foi alguma coisa com policia
ॐ says:
aaa. morreram dois bandidos baleados em uma troca de tiro com a policia. ai os policias tiveram que levar os dois bandidos pelo helicopt . so que a policia enrrolou o bandido em um plastico como se estivesse morto. mas morreram por causa disso
ॐ says:
baby tem um disco voador voando lá em copa agora rs. de 7 metrso
mrenternational says:
eu sei. rs
ॐ says:
ah sabe é. vc esta sabendo coisas demais do brasil, que quem nao mora aqui
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I asked my girlfriend about that water thing that happened yesterday. Now she wants to know where I am getting my info from because it wasn't in the paper or the internet.[/QUOTE]Tell her you have friends in Rio at present and e-mailed or phoned you.
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[QUOTE=Carrib]I just got back....I also met this guy in front of Help who was offering everything from drugs to cheap 50 real pussy, dude spoke perfect english and said he was from Miami. He looked shady to say the least so I ignored him, he eventually got the message and went away...I will muster a full report soon but here are some quick observations
GDP talent has gone down, but Brazil is STILL Brazil.
...then there was Amanda from MC..wow..more to come..[/QUOTE]
Just got in last night. Went to MC but left after 15 minutes. Wasn't feeling the talent. If circumstances are the same as it was years ago, Solarium and MC share the same management and they're half staffed on Saturdays. Didn't see any Bahiana nor an Amanda, DAMN! I'll check back on a Tues or something.
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Keld
actually, from what I've heard, they are no longer owned by the same owner. Happy Hunting and better luck next time
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MC & Solarium
[QUOTE=Carrib]actually, from what I've heard, they are no longer owned by the same owner. Happy Hunting and better luck next time[/QUOTE]
What is your source for this? AFIK it is still the same management for both clubs.
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Copacabana
Any place with a similar setup to Copacabana, but without all the American shines?
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Divorce
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]What is your source for this? AFIK it is still the same management for both clubs.[/QUOTE]
Actually, they split several years ago. I ran into one of the former MC owners about a month ago. He now is into gas stations.
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Centro
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Centro is a mad busy place, but once you get your bearings its ok. I felt safe walking around there. I had afew looks from people but that was it! [/QUOTE]Hey Kid if you don't mind me asking, were the people "looked" at you b/c you stood out or b/c you were visiting 4X4 and BA85?
I took my first trip to Centro Sunday. And the place was dead as a ghost town. Hardly anyone around. But I felt very safe walking alone among the many small streets. Walked around trying to locate some of the establishments. Found BA85 and 4X4 and took pics of the buildings. Then took ferry to Niteori (sp? ). The ride was short but the view was magnificent. I recommend it for anyone. Looking forward to going to Centro later today.
DD
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Metro to VM
For those who took the Metro to VM I have a little question.
Do I buy a ticket straight for Sao Cristovao from the station of origin or do I buy a ticket for estacio and then at estacio station buy another ticket for Sao Cristovao?
I am planning to visit VM tomorrow.
DD
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When is help closing
When is Help closing?
That is all I want to know.
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[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon]For those who took the Metro to VM I have a little question.
Do I buy a ticket straight for Sao Cristovao from the station of origin or do I buy a ticket for estacio and then at estacio station buy another ticket for Sao Cristovao?[/QUOTE]
One ticket.
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My apologies
i have been neglecting some duties here as i am still going thru rio withdrawal and then came the holiday weekend. now to some of your questions.
we arrived in rio on the mia-gig leg and cleared customs relatively without hassle. i decided to take the 7 real bus--this is highly recommended since a taxi now costs 40-45 real and was quoted as much as 70 real for a private driver. for those of you who dont know, there is a bus stand right after u clear customs--or go outside and the bus is right there.
i initially contacted ken but our schedules kept changing so i decided to reserve a double suite at the princess copacabana --wingman insisted he wanted an apt on atlantica so i left it up to him..huge mistake. he contacted john thompson (riorentals4less) and reserved a 2 bedroom beachfront apt for $165 dollars (down from $175 he wanted). i called him once we landed but he became restless waiting for the bus, so he in turn had us wait at terrazo atlantica restaurant in front of help and it went downhill from there...john explained to us that the apt we reserved was no longer avail and one of the rooms had no air (wtf!) but he has another apt around the corner..apt he showed us was crap so we declined it..he showed us another apt in the same building (much better) but insisted that we would have to leave at 10am on our last day!?!..so screw that..he proceeded to waste our time showing us one crappy apt after another until i got fed up at 3pm (rem the plane landed at 8:30am)..we went to bobby and in 30-40 mins we were in a three bedroom duplex for 500 reals a night..i have stayed in the building before and it has some real nice apts. it was a bit much but we were desperate and later i found that the actual price of the three bedroom is 450 reals a night. we used the third room for the festinahs. :)
apt is located in av atlantica 3916 (posto six), top floor penthouse with balcony overlooking atlantica, its a two level duplex with three bedroom, one of the bedrooms air didnt work as well and the furnishing were a bit worn to call it superluxury but it did look good..sorry no pics.
the apt needed to be cleaned up so we went to lunch and left our bags with bobby, he also gave us free cellphones and offered free laundry. after finally getting settled, we walked down to mp and there were slim pickings..i ran into dani..old gdp from wayyy back (still look decent), she offered a threesome with a very pretty girl but i wanted to checkout mc, told them that we would be back a bit..went to mc, new mgr did not recognize me...so i acted like i was new and got the tour...went upstairs and took a peek..i was not impressed and away we went. we called dani but the other cute girl had left, so she offered to take both of us on...and indeed she did..she proceeded to take the dickdown for the next three hours for 200 reals. dani's body still looks good but not as tight as it once was. she also told me that my porto sucks...it does.lol.
later that night, we decided to check out the action in front of help. ran into kelly the pornstar asking crazy ass prices --just waved her away. there was this very cute girl who later i found was a receptionist, i cant remember her initial offer but it was too much, so i declined. we left help and went back to the apt but at 2:30 am they were still there. now negotiations started again, she was pushing to get her friend some business--her buddy looked like a darn harpie, she muddied the negotiations--we first offered a festinah just with the cutie but she insisted that her friend come after several back and forth offers--we settled on 150 for her and 120 for the harpie a festinah until 8:am right...wrong..
harpie almost killed the deal back at the apt, but we decided to just have one one one session and it was then i received my first cbj in rio...otherwise the session was decent, u can tell she wasnt a pro but the pussy was real tight and she was amazingly passionate. harpie came knocking at 8am, she wanted to stay but harpie insisted..i paid them and took both downstairs to the door..and that was the first day wingman took an l but would rebound quite nicely...day two we went to mc, much better and he gets lucky, lands a gfe who fucks him free for the rest of the trip.
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[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon]Hey Kid if you don't mind me asking, were the people "looked" at you b/c you stood out or b/c you were visiting 4X4 and BA85?
I took my first trip to Centro Sunday. And the place was dead as a ghost town. Hardly anyone around. But I felt very safe walking alone among the many small streets. Walked around trying to locate some of the establishments. Found BA85 and 4X4 and took pics of the buildings. Then took ferry to Niteori (sp? ). The ride was short but the view was magnificent. I recommend it for anyone. Looking forward to going to Centro later today.
DD[/QUOTE]
Maybe because I had been on the beach in the morning and looked abit red, not really sure though, not because of visiting the termas
But I really enjoyed all the hustle and bustle of the place.
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How To Fuck Up A Relationship With A Non-Pro Before Its Even Started!
i went to luomo on saturday night and there was about 15 white robes to 7 girls at 19.00
very smoky, actually every girl was smoking. there were 2 hot girls in the corner on
1 man and didn't show any interest. so i waited and waited, along came julianna very sensual morena
great body, natural breasts, large nipples. hit the cabine anal, awsome blow job, balls, ass, very happy.
got cell number and email with real name. when i left they tried to pad the bill
with 3 extra drinks. as soon as i complained she phoned the bar and that was taken off straight away! just goes to
show, how they try it on, but still i think it was expensive night.
get back to apartment and want to hit helpee as i have still not been there. so i'm looking
for an atm. i get a phone call from the school teacher and she wants to meet me, so i meet her
outside my apartment (mistake 1). we get a taxi to ipanema walk around and have a drink in an irish bar. very
nice conversation. we head back to copa and have a meal in one of the restaurants, again great time. she
says she wants to cook shrimp for me the next day at her mums house, and she would call me. she is staying 2
blocks from me at a friends because she had a course that day.
we have a nice slow kiss and she heads off. i've had a great night and i still want to experience helpee.(mistake 2, stay home kook kid!) i get round there at 2am and there is not much action in ta, so i go in side. pretty poor inside too. i had my eye on one but the dude from the onionbooty.com website was all over her. so i pick a very dark skinned girl with huge ass. get back to mine and we hit it until around 6am.
i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will
call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.
i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!!
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[quote=koolkid]i went to luomo on saturday night and there was about 15 white robes to 7 girls at 19.00
very smoky, actually every girl was smoking. there were 2 hot girls in the corner on
1 man and didn't show any interest. so i waited and waited, along came julianna very sensual morena
great body, natural breasts, large nipples. hit the cabine anal, awsome blow job, balls, ass, very happy.
got cell number and email with real name. when i left they tried to pad the bill
with 3 extra drinks. as soon as i complained she phoned the bar and that was taken off straight away! just goes to
show, how they try it on, but still i think it was expensive night.
get back to apartment and want to hit helpee as i have still not been there. so i'm looking
for an atm. i get a phone call from the school teacher and she wants to meet me, so i meet her
outside my apartment (mistake 1). we get a taxi to ipanema walk around and have a drink in an irish bar. very
nice conversation. we head back to copa and have a meal in one of the restaurants, again great time. she
says she wants to cook shrimp for me the next day at her mums house, and she would call me. she is staying 2
blocks from me at a friends because she had a course that day.
we have a nice slow kiss and she heads off. i've had a great night and i still want to experience helpee.(mistake 2, stay home kook kid!) i get round there at 2am and there is not much action in ta, so i go in side. pretty poor inside too. i had my eye on one but the dude from the onionbooty.com website was all over her. so i pick a very dark skinned girl with huge ass. get back to mine and we hit it until around 6am.
i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will
call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.
i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!![/quote]
great story...lol....but why is that girl showing up at your apt without contacting you 1st....thats not a good sign about what type of lady she is.
chris h
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[QUOTE=Chris H]Great story...LOL....but why is that girl showing up at your apt without contacting you 1st....thats not a good sign about what type of lady she is.
Chris H[/QUOTE]
Non pros do this all the time, its common for them to just pop up at your place unnanounced.
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New Prices at 4 X 4!!!
Just in time for my trip, the prices at 4 X 4 have gone up once again :eek::mad:. Seems like they follow my itinerary very closely. It didn't help that the place was as slow as I've ever seen it (In our favor). Anyways, here is to making up for lost business, local style:
Cabine (40 minutes), R190
Simple suite (1 hour), R210
Super suite (1 hour), R260
King suite (90 minutes), R350
Sultan's suite (90 minutes), R400
The entrance fee remains the same (40 reals). According to the girls, they don't see any of this price increase; the last one was split between them and the house. As usual, you can find what you want and as often as you want in this place :). They just don't build bundas like theirs anywhere else on earth :D.
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[quote=koolkid]
i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will
call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.
i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!![/quote]
that is some funny shit since it didn't happen to me. i hope you cursed the doorman out though. they should not be revealing your personal business to people. i would also ***** at whoever rented me the apartment and try to get some money back and/or change places. if you do, remember to make friends with the doorman right off the bat. buy him a pizza or bring him a burger or something. i never have that kind of problem with non-pros because the ones without a car know that they will show up and i'm subject not to be there so it will be a wasted trip. the ones with a car are usually those that will show up at random.
here is one of my old reports about when i got screwed over by a doorman. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573045&postcount=490[/url]
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[QUOTE=Sperto]One ticket.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sperto.
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Unfortunately
[QUOTE=Bravo]Non pros do this all the time, its common for them to just pop up at your place unnanounced.[/QUOTE]
not just the non-pros. I even have had girls from escort agencies "just show up."
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[quote=koolkid]i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day. i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!![/quote]
rofl. yes, you screwed up, but this has happened to everyone who mixes non-pros with - ahem - prostitutes - lol.
there are two ways to get round it. both of them very 'respectable.'
1. tailor your non-gdp activities towards the end of your stay. that way you can reciprocate some genuine respect, lay off the gdp and enjoy the whole giorlfriend buzz.
2. and this would surely be common sense if you think about it - instead of doggying on your doorstep, go to an establishment provided for the purpose. no, not those gringoholes like help. termas, whether posh ones (perhaps not right outside the siquera campos metro station haha) like 4x4 or filth ones like the centro 1r a minute joints.
methods 1 and 2 can be combined of course, if the need takes you ;) ;)
n.b. "getting caught with a prostitute is a popular telenova (tv soap opera) theme. every girl will know the appropriate histrionics if she can catch you out. the brasilian way is simple when it comes to anything on the side, even if it's another non-gdp: don't get caught! if you don't get caught it is ok as everyone assumes everyone is having something on the side. but the story has to be good enough for your other half to hold her head up when nattering at the hairdressers.
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7 of 9 nights Recommend Shelia of Luomo 100%
I will report more on Shelia later.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]ROFL.
n.b. "Getting caught with a PROSTITUTE is a popular telenova (tv soap opera) theme. Every girl will know the appropriate histrionics if she can catch you out. The Brasilian way is simple when it comes to anything on the side, even if it's another non-gdp: Don't get caught! If you don't get caught it is ok as everyone assumes everyone is having something on the side. But the story has to be good enough for your other half to hold her head up when nattering at the hairdressers.[/QUOTE]
LOL that is SOO funny and true.. :P
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[QUOTE=Avsmith01]When is Help closing?
That is all I want to know.[/QUOTE]I'm in Rio for the 7th day of 9, and everyone say Help is not closing. There is a crowd at Help now, and I am freshing up to go and get a tall picture of Sangria at the "Help Closing" ISG discussion continues.
By the way, I mistakening said Shelia is at Monte Carlo. She is at Luomo, and I highly recommend her for an aggressive sexual encounter.
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Shelia
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I will report more on Shelia later.[/QUOTE]Inquiring minds want to know "Is she completa"?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I missed out on great opportunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man I'm lovin Rio!![/QUOTE]Most women are pretty savvy creatures, not easy to fool. And cariocas know what most single male gringo tourists are down there for. So even if you had brought her in to your apartment, she can probably still sniff out the recent presence of a GDP. :)
In addition to trying to recruit the doorman of your apt. building as an ally, you might want to consider using some of the inexpensive love motels for takeout from Help, especially if it's a girl you don't know as some of these Help chicas are thieves/dishonest. But you'll still need a good excuse for not answering her phone calls right away! ;) Maybe say something like some early morning sight-seeing before the main wave of tourists.
Another strategy I recently thought up and may try one day is renting out a bed at a hostel and having the non-pro think that's where you're staying, although such a complicated ruse may not be worth the extra $$ and hassle for most guys/situations.
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Vm
Could someone post some additional details on VM? When does the action start? How do I get there after I exit the Sao Cristovao station? What are the costs? Past reports are light on details.
Obrigado!
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]you'll still need a good excuse for not answering her phone calls right away! ;)[/QUOTE]
Bettery's flat
I left it at home
I switch it off when I'm sleeping
I was in the shower
[i]Or the GDP all-time favourite:[/i]
Nao creditos!*
And if you don't have any credits on your phone, there's not much poiont switching it on, is there?
When it comes to the doorman phoning up, I've had problems even when I did want to take the call:
The doorman thinks you're out when you're not
The buzzer doesn't work well
You can't hear the buzzer from the other room/balcony/shower/kitchen/over the sound of frying salgados and eminem
You had your headphones on listening to music
Be sure to set up all these excuses early on - eg letting her see you wear headphones, shouting from the other room that you can't hear her, mentioning that the buzzer doesn't work very well. If I have a girl visiting, I always stress that she should phone me just before she arrives so I know to look out for her.
[color=gray]*which is ungrammatical, but good gringo-speak - I personally don't want her thinking I'm so clever I can anticipate her moves like a well-trained puppy - I'm here, I'm 'stupid' when it suits me.[/color]
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]cariocas know what most single male gringo tourists are down there for.[/QUOTE]
True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.
Here's some suggestions:
Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?
One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.
Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.
Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One [i]feels sorry[/i] for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)
Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.
Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).
Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.
This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.
Here's some suggestions:
Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?
One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.
Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.
Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One [i]feels sorry[/i] for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)
Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.
Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).
Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.
This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.[/QUOTE]Its funny that you mention these things to do in Rio without drawing attention to yourself as a monger. I have started doing these things without realizing the advantages of them. And to my surprise. I have gotten more free sex then paying for it. But to hear you mention these things. It makes since. Like you said it may not be for everyone. But it has worked for me So far.
Thanks for the clairfication.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.
Here's some suggestions:
Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?
One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.
Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.
Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One [i]feels sorry[/i] for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)
Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.
Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).
Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.
This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I don't know where to start, but I agree 100% with what you're saying. For me, doing more of what you suggest has made each trip better than the one previous. I really hope a lot of readers get something out of this.
ryjer
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Take out from VM
How hard is it to get the girls from VM to leave work or meet up at the apt after work?
Chris H
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[QUOTE=Chris H]How hard is it to get the girls from VM to leave work or meet up at the apt after work?
Chris H[/QUOTE]
man R$200 and you can lead your own posse!!!!
Seriously I have seen that this subject has been well reported on this forum, so you should look at the reports.
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Another terma experience
Took an early trip down to centro with a big hangover early on monday morning.
Got a double grill from bobs burger and wished I hadn't. Wondered around for a while
looking for terma 502, but I was a little early and there was not much happening.
So I entered BA85. I always get a buzz when entering this place as You never know
whats gonna be around the next spiral! And this time there was not alot. The last floor
was closed. So i went to the next one down, and grabbed this black girl with huge thighs and
ass. The cabin was cleanish. 5 min blow job, and she then just bent over and let me hit it!
Alot of the girls have arched there back when I've dogged them here but this filly just got low
and let me go full throttle. I tried for her ass but she said no. I looked at the door and noticed it was
a little open. AND then I notice through the slats in the door, a girl outside just standing there watching and
listneing!! This girls ass was so big and it made such a noise when I hit it! I was just chuckling as this was
fucking crazy!
Finished up and went to 4x4 and got a shower. Entered the bar and felt tired and weak. Had afew vodkas and
perped up abit and along came Haika (spelling pronounce?) Tall girl with big bunda large naturals and green eyes.
Took 40 mins in a cabin and it was awsome! Took 2 pics (my first allowed since being here!) Great blowjob balls
etc. Cow girl and then I brought her to the edge of the bed and and I got on top. She brought out some cream/gel
and rubbed it on her little peanut. She came pretty quick so I wanted to go for the A. She stuck her her finger
in her ass and wriggled it around, but was still worried that I would break her..lol. She took it very well and then the phone wrang so it was a tounge finish.
When I was showering I notice that she was in doggy postion spreading her ass looking at it in the mirror, I said
what the fuck? And she said..You broke my ass! LOL
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Ba85
Hmmm...Never heard of this place but I might try try it when I get back to Rio in a few days. Does it have the same setup as 502 where you don't have to change clothes?
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[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon]For those who took the Metro to VM I have a little question.
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I am planning to visit VM tomorrow.
DD[/QUOTE]DreamC,
Give us a trip report on VM. What path did you take after leaving SC metro station? I've searched extensively on the forum and haven't found anything except a mention of white wall outside the station
How did it go?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Yesterday we looked at some of the smaller Casas de Massagem in centro. The first 2 were ok, but the 3rd had the best amount of young girls with curves. This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think. All the girls come out and introduce themselves indivdually, some with great curves. I chose Bruna. Great body and bunda with large natural breasts. I paid 110 for an hour in the suite. I took a shower and she came in wearing a red corset type all in one thong thing with high heels.
Anyway we got down to it. She gave one of the best blow jobs I have probably had. Her sex skills are A+. Deep throat, spits all over the dick, balls ass the lot! She starts to ride me and nearly snaps my dick. I last about 10 mins! So shes back down there, then abit of doggy, 10 minutes more blowing it ends with a happy ending on her chin. She has the skills of porn star for sure so I rate her an A++.[/QUOTE]Hey KK. You said you paid 110/hr, was that USD or Reais?
Thanks for the report, I'm enjoying reading about your exploits!
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[QUOTE=Redsox911]Hey KK. You said you paid 110/hr, was that USD or Reais?
Thanks for the report, I'm enjoying reading about your exploits![/QUOTE]
It was 110 reais, you can pay by cash or credit card
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Dunda massage
[QUOTE=Koolkid]It was 110 reais, you can pay by cash or credit card[/QUOTE]
KoolKid
I hope that was Dunda's place you went up 2 different elevators... It brings back great memories... A spot I visit evey time in Rio.. Here is one off my favorites there. Carol I have posted some pictures of her before. Many times I have been there and went over the 1 hour if they are not busy. I will be there in 26 days and counting..
Ace
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[QUOTE=Acenva]KoolKid
I hope that was Dunda's place you went up 2 different elevators... It brings back great memories... A spot I visit evey time in Rio.. Here is one off my favorites there. Carol I have posted some pictures of her before. Many times I have been there and went over the 1 hour if they are not busy. I will be there in 26 days and counting..
Ace[/QUOTE]Hey Ace,
She's just my type!
Is there a link or location to Dunda you can provide?
RS911
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]What path did you take after leaving SC metro station? I've searched extensively on the forum and haven't found anything except a mention of white wall outside the station[/QUOTE]
The question isn't addressed to me but I sympathise with people struggling with the ISG's search function which, although very good, doesn't always turn up what you are looking for. Some posters make a log of their posts so they can refer people back to key explanations quickly, which I'm afraid I don't. But for what it's worth:
When you get off at SC there's a bridge over the tracks so you can exit the station either side.
Facing the direction you were travelling on in the train, you want to exit left (which is to the south, for those with a sense of direction or a compass). If you can't remember, it is the busy side.
As you come out, the steps double back the way you came. You are on the edge of a busy multi-lane highway. Popcorn and other sellers have trays at the foot of the steps.
You want to walk along the highway in the opposite direction to that which the train was travelling. As traffic drives on the right, this is also so you are facing the oncoming traffic.
You might think about crossing to the other side of the highway and getting a bus. Don't. Not all the buses will stop at Pr.Bandeira/VM and it's quicker and less confussing to walk.
As you follow the pavement, it gets very narrow indeed - barely room for two people to pass. And the traffic is blowing up your socks. This might be unsettling the first time you do it but persevere - you can always figure out how to do it by bus - or the nicer walk from Alfonso Pena - later.
A couple of hundred yards and the road opens out to your left. There's no other turning. You'll see several bridges on your left that you walk under, quite unmistakeable. From there it's just as described many times, straight on and take the second right. If you cross the level crossing you've gone too far.
Have a look on a map (Sperto's or any other map) first. It will reassure you that you know where you're going. Even if you don't.
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Vm
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]DreamC,
Give us a trip report on VM. What path did you take after leaving SC metro station? I've searched extensively on the forum and haven't found anything except a mention of white wall outside the station
How did it go?[/QUOTE]PP, actually I havent gotten the chance to make a trip to VM. I've been too busy visiting between BA85, 4X4, Casa de massagems, and Help. I'd stayed in all day yesterday and coulda/shoulda went to VM but I was too exhausted from 4X4 and an all nighter with a wild/boarderline crazy (in a good way) Help GDP.
But there was a detailed map of VM one of the pro forum member had posted...just looked back through the pages and you will find it.
Hope it helps.
DD
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[QUOTE=Redsox911]Hey Ace,
She's just my type!
Is there a link or location to Dunda you can provide?
RS911[/QUOTE]I will try to help with is question. I believe the establishment Ace and KK are talking about is a casa de massagem located on Rio Branco in Centro. The address is Rio Branco 185 Apartment #2114. The easiest and fastest way to reach it is by taking the metro and getting off at Carioca. Then take the exit for Rio Brancho. As you walk out the the metro station make a right. Next, crossover to the other side of Rio Branco and look for #185. Once you are in the building, you will following a spiral staircase down to the basement of the building where you will need to get in the elevator that takes you all the way up to the 20th floor. Once you reach the 20th floor, make a left and go up a flight of stair you see and then make 2 more right turns and you are there.
An advice from a newbie, if you are bad with porto like me, make sure you take a pen and paper with you and write down the name of the girl you like to session with.
DD
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Termas Update In Copacabana For The Weekend????
For you guys who are in Rio now or who have just left Rio between which Terma has the best talent in Copacabana between Solarium, Monte Carlo, or L'uomos???? Looking to hit a couple of these Termas this weekend dont want to be disappointed when I get there.
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[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]For you guys who are in Rio now or who have just left Rio between which Terma has the best talent in Copacabana between Solarium, Monte Carlo, or L'uomos???? Looking to hit a couple of these Termas this weekend dont want to be disappointed when I get there.[/QUOTE]
Just back from a week trip. Report to come. Tastes vary of course, but I thought Solarium was the best non-Centro terma on this trip -- good selection of girls, relaxed vibe. I may have caught L'uomo on a bad night. I think it can vary day to day. But we hit Solarium 2x and it was great both times. Monty was OK (I still like the facilities) and L'uomo was meh.
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The Cartman Report -- 2009 (Part I)
Hi team! Eric Cartman, aka The Rear Admiral, here. Just came back from a return trip to Rio with my compatriot Churro Man. Previous adventures (2005, 2004) were chronicled in these fine reports: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=399408#post399408[/url]
Should point out that Churro Man – while attempting to maintain his Churro-consuming quota – also became known as El Director on this trip. Basically he filmed every girl he banged, either using his hand-held Sony camera (including setting it up in cabines) or an in-room camera attached to his laptop in the apartment. 70% of the time the girls didn’t know this was going on. Footage was amazing, leading to many next-day conversations that began with the phrase, “Roll tape!” Fun times.
By the way, Rio street churros remain magically delicious. Imagine a freshly fried tube of sweet dough, frosted with cinnamon sugar, and then filled to the brim with either dulche de leche carmel or chocolate. Amazing! Note to the wise – I believe they are pronounced “Shurro” and not “Churro.” Damn carioca accent!
SUMMARY
This trip ran 8 days in Rio, from 17th – 25th May. Temperature was 70-90 each day, slightly cooler at night, sunny nearly the whole time. Bringing long pants (jeans) proved a waste. We went to even nice restaurants wearing shorts & flip-flops (e.g., Porcao). Money talks.
Overall impressions: prices are up, quality is down in the termas.
• Centro termas offer the best mix of both but you have to be choosy. 4x4 is way too busy for my taste.
• Prices seem up all across Rio / Brazil … inflation seems to be ticking away (I guess it has to, given the country has been continually offering 15%-20% interest rates). The decline of the US Peso hasn’t helped either.
• What used to run $70USD at L'uomo for 40 mins and entrance and a few drinks now is $150USD, with 1hr sessions and drinks breaking the $225USD mark.
The Statistics:
# of days/nights: 9/8
# of different girls: 16
# of times sexo: 16
# of times anal: 2 (12.5%)
Cartman’s most orgasms in single day: 4
Things that Continue to Annoy Me:
#1 - Good Terma girls still ask for reasonable drinks like Agua de Coco. The others tag you with Red Bull & Vodka or Red Bull & Whiskey for up to 36R – 50R. I told a few girls that was too expensive – one switched to Fanta & Vodka.
#2 – What is up with this new (to me anyway, since last trip in 2005) habit of guys in the boite basically taking off their robe to the waist. They stand there bare-chested, wearing the robe like a skirt. Couldn’t tell if it was only Brazilian guys doing this or some of the US team as well. Seriously, guys, we don’t need to see you bare-chested in the boite. Unless you have a really fine pair of bolt-ons ☺
#3 – Guys, please don’t wear sideways baseball caps or other accoutrements of the street cred in the boite. It just looks silly. We all wear the same robes and flip-flops to fit in. It’s an even, neutral ground. From the fattest 55 year-old to the fittest 20-something, everyone should be equal under the robe. It’s why Buddhist monks all dress the same.
LODGING
Rented a really modern 3bd., 2.5bth penthouse (11th floor) apartment (the entire floor) on Rua Santa Clara about ½ block from the Copacabana beach. Apartment was found here: [url]http://www.belavista-rio.com/site/rio_vacation_apartment/101[/url]
$600R per night, plus mobile phone rental and airport pickup. Only complaints about the apartment were shitty internet (no wired internet, only 1 USB Claro cellular modem) and no central AC / AC in all rooms. Otherwise, a fantastic space and helpful owners.
PHARMACIA
Bought a lot of Vitamin C (Cialis) at Pacheco all along Nos. Sra. Copa, generally 189R for 8 pills. Also Vitamin V, and other medicaments like Azitrominica (the US “Z pack” of Azithromycin) antibiotic. Went through 2 3-day courses (500mg/day) in an effort to avoid getting the garota flu. Our third amigo didn’t pro-actively prevent, and came down with it in 2 days. Who knows it if works or is just luck of the draw.
SHOPPING
Rio Sul remains a great place to kill 1-2 hours just wandering around shops largely to check out the AMAZINGLY HOT female store clerks. Seriously. Crazy.
EATING
Highly recommend the Hortifruiti supermarket chain for fresh produce, nearly US quality. Bob’s burger chain appears to have gone upscale a bit since 2004 and now offers a fine Ovaltine Malt milkshake for 6R that is well worth it. Churro Man and 3rd Amigo hit Marius Carnes and said it wasn’t up to Porcao standards – other reviews and comments made Marius sound really expensive (esp. Seafood), up to 150R per person. I was in no rush to return.
Pretty much every day – Breakfast (11.30am – 1pm) at Big Nectar near Rua Santa Clara. Got table service on their little tables from our girl there, tipped her pretty big each time. We kept eating a ton. Grande Acais with granola, sucos, frango con salada on French bread sandwiches, pasties con carne or banana … Graviola juice (pretty good). Café puro e con leche, poured over ice. When I first asked for a cup of ice for the coffee, she gave me a plastic cup and the counterman had to correct her and give me an actual glass to pour the scalding hot coffee into. The Nectar remains my favorite Suco chain / bar until someone shows me a better one.
Dinners 2x at Porcao, with a long stroll outside between dinner and dessert. Porcao apparently owns the land down to the bay and lets you go out for a stroll with coffees or drinks. They no longer sell cigars. They have some benches and tables outside as well, and were serving guys out there who were smoking cigars. Classy place. 2nd visit we made friends with the leg-of-lamb server, Vandelay (as in Art Vandelay of Seinfeld fame) … told him I only wanted lamb, and he had like 4 types (leg, chops, tenderloin (lamb spine), and something else) brought over. He also kept shoveling it on my plate and laughing when I said “un poco.” Good times.
3x dinners and 1 lunch at the famous Garota De Ipanema on Rua Prudente de Morais. Love this place. Great vibe. Tasty Picana presented on a sizzling tray where it cooks at your table. The mixed grill is OK but not as good (beef steaks instead, chicken, pork sausage). You can ask them to swap out the uninspired French Fries for nice shopped fried potato pieces. Great waiter there named Erivaldo (waiters have their names on tables in their sections). Made sure to sit with him and tip well each time. He really took care of us. Remembered him from my last trip. He saw me smoking cigars and said he loved cigars, but is allergic to cigarettes and has to wear a patch there. I told him I’d bring him a Cuban cigar next time I came in. Which I did on the last night with CM. He went out of his way for us in service, and ultimately gave us 2 caipirinhas that he made himself on the house. Good guy. Last tip: the Hearts of Palm salad is 100% hearts of palm, no other veggies. They will make it with ½ tomatoes or other veggies if you ask. It’s good either way, but we learned to always get some tomatoes.
2 meals (dinner, lunch) at Esch café in Leblon. Cigar prices higher than Planeta Sonho on Nos. S. Cobacabana, food prices high and mediocre. Serious vibe. Kind of disappointed. Leblon much posher than Ipanema.
1 lunch at Frontera, a kilo in Ipanema right on the main street near Gen. Osario plaza and across cross-street from Big Nectar. Pretty good food, including what Bubba Boy said is the best churrascuria meat you’ll get at a kilo. Not particularly cheap – 60R for me with some helpings of meat, dessert, coffee, juices.
BEST TERMAS
See Bubba Boy’s guide for addresses and info. Also Google Maps is an amazing resource – dial up maps.google.com, enter something like “Termas Cancun, RJ – Brazil” and watch the magic unfold. Super easy.
#1 – Best Surprise – Terma Cancun in Centro. I am almost afraid to write this as I don’t want it invaded by the hordes of 50+ year-old dudes I saw talking like Big Men at 4x4, or the hordes of other types of Mongers who I (fully knowing the pot-kettle issue) I don’t think are good for the US image. That said, I feel a duty to the board to report good info. If you like a more relaxed, fun, atmosphere, good-sized boite, nice facilities & good-sized rooms, and an unrushed, uncrowded experience at 4x4 prices, go here. It’s 1.5 blocks from 4x4. Both are easily reachable via Metro to Uruguaiana (and the Metro already has been extended 1 stop further in Copa from Siquierie Campos, to Miguel Lemos, and is in the process of being extended in to Ipanema). Also easy to reach from Praca 15 (pronounced “pra-sa”), which is the ferry terminal for Niteroi. There are a bunch of nice outdoor bars / restaurants near Terma Cancun and the main street just past it (R. Primeiro de Marco), as well. I threw down a 500ml Bavarian hefeweizen (Paulaner) at once of them for 12R.
#2 – Best Improvement – Solarium had really improved its game this time, based on the crop of girls compared to my last visit in 2005. Facilities are the same and a bit run-down, prices are up like the Copa termas, but the girls made this a winner this trip. I like the boite here too, good space, plenty of seating, nice bar. The area around it in Jardim Botanico has some really nice restaurants too, and of course the Jardim Botanico which itself is worth a stroll.
#3 – Monte Carlo – I like the facilities here a lot, especially the shower room and boite (good layout, plenty of seating). The area around it at night seems to have gotten a bit better, didn’t feel quite as dangerous at midnight than on prev trips (but I might just be settling in). It was 3 blocks from our apartment and walkable easily. The cabines feel a bit bigger than L'uomo's, the boite is larger, and there’s not the horrible music L’uomo blares. I used to love L’uomo’s girls (esp Ingrid) but the selection on this trip didn’t seem much better to me than MC – though it probably varies by night and I only went once.
Needs Another Chance: Rio Antigo. I still really like this terma’s layout and facilities, including the bar-like boite. It’s early opening hours also are of interest. And it’s reasonably close to Copa (walkable from Gloria metro stop). We hit it at a bad time (1 hr before closing) on a Friday night. I wanted to go back at a different time and see how the crop of girls had developed. Pricing was in line with Centro and reasonable. These guys deserve a shot, so check it out if you can. Conveniently close to Porcao Flamengo by the way. Interestingly, the only terma we saw where the receptionists were men. The manager appeared to be a huge, short-haired, fat lesbian chick.
(see Part II for Details on the Daily Fucking)
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The Cartman Report -- 2009 (Part II)
the cartman report – 2009 (cont’d)
eric cartman, aka the rear admiral, back with the daily details of the trip (as outlined in the cartman report 2009 - part i). onto the fucking ....
sunday 17 may
kayla at monte carlo – big bunda, tan carioca. 28. told her i thought she was 56 when she asked ☺ churro man went with pietra, a tall long lean black girl. made her hold out her hand to receive the seed. see below – i tagged pietra later.
porcao for dinner (flamingo)
then l’uomo for ~304r: 15 for red bull, 15 for vodka, 210 for 40 mins, 60 entry, some other stuff. nikki was my tall muscled black girl (huge 3 inch heels) – cesarean scar and boobie scars both sadly not visible until in the room – tongue stud, danced great. made her hold out hand to receive the seed. this is the point where i decided to start asking every girl, when talking to them in the boite, if they had children. a lot would say no, and i’d ask to see if any scars. others would say yes but “natural” and show me no scar. i didn’t find out a good way to check for boobie scars other than just pulling their tops down ☺
churro man went with giovanni. no bunda. his words: “small room, hard to operate in”
monday 18 may
hit up 4x4 around 4pm. first trip for cm and our 3rd amigo. rode the metro from copa to uruguaiana and walked. super easy. lots of police on the street at the market at uruguaiana. stopped for a suco at the same suco bar on rua buenos aires on the way to 4x4 where bubba boy took me 4 years ago. fun times. melancia for the win!
churro man picked off a small, thin 19 year-old blonde i spotted, named [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]. seriously, that was her name. a knowingly ironic choice on her part of a stripper name? who knows.
i kept holding out and saw lorrayne – blonde, tan, long hair (braids, pigtails), anaconda tattoo on leg, panther (pantera) lower back, dragon (“dra-gon”) on upper back. she was talking to some really old fat dude for a while. i kept staring at her and smiling, and she saw it. she came over as soon as she was done with him. i joked and asked if she liked “viejos” – she said it was just a friend. yeah, right. whatever. up to the suite for 1 hour. starts off in doggie anal, mish anal, then cowgirl / squat with cooch. lots of cuddling. told me she’d meet me back in the boite. waited there for her for a while, finally see find dancing on the spinner and pole, wont come sit with me, so we eject.
200/hr. 2nd level room (small suite with shower) … 40r entrance.
by the way, apparently (according to bubba) there is a 2nd “vip boite” up the stairs from the first main one, towards the back of the building. you can bring your girl up there. i didn’t know this. also i didn’t initially know where the hot showers are in the sauna room. the only ones you can see are 100% cold water. the hot ones are through the first door closest to the cold ones – it’s hard to see through the window, but there are 4 hot shower stalls in a small room.
lastly, there is a 2nd changing room at 4x4 that they pretty much never give keys to – apparently they like jamming everyone into the tiny first one. which is not much fun when you’re sharing it with some large-sized men. churro man asked if they had anywhere else, and they gave him a key to another big room that had nobody in it. so ask for comfort!
dinner at garota de ipanema, then off to solarium. priscilla was super high-energy dancing, then ends up stripping just for me. tells me to wait while she goes to change, comes back into the boite wearing a sexy red dress – dj puts on special music, and she does a whole strip show for 10 mins, pushing away other guys, kissing me, stripping to naked. of course we go up to the cabine after that: 1 hour, 2 pops. saw her a few days later wearing a schoolgirl dress and white schoolgirl top. had straight blonde hair the second time (curly on the first time). i think she has a pegasus tattoo on her back (e.g., a winged horse but with no horn, not a unicorn). not super fit but really really sexy and fun.
churro man – went with thin, reddish-auburn hair ariel. braces. blue bikini. “trifecta” (all 3 holes) 40 minutes. made sure of 2 pops. didn’t think it would happen but she pulled it off (so to speak).
tuesday 19 may
i spent all tuesday and weds with a brazilian porn star who i pre-arranged for an all-day fee of 500r per day, plus her airfare down from sao paulo. it was an ok experience, started great but kind of fizzled out on day 2. i’m not posting any details about it since she specifically asked me not to.
meanwhile, on tuesday, cm goes to help and pulls a thin, small-breasted model type named clara. 400r for tln. pulled at 1.15pm. cm first saw her talking to some other guy for a long time. apparently the other guy tried to negotiate her down, and when he tried the walk-away tactic, cm went in for the kill. banged her 2x in night and once in am. all caught on tape. going rate at help appears 400r – other friend got offered 2hrs only for 400r. number of girls before 1pm appeared to be pathetic. maybe only 30% were whackable. started to get busy after 1.30am. outside there were a few hotties mixed in.
weds 20th may
cm at l'uomo named lorena– 25 y.o. brunette – 40 mins – phone rang halfway through 2nd pop and wouldn’t let him finish. angry churro man.
thursday 21st may
started off with a trip by boat (barca) to niteroi. took a taxi to praca 15 (xv) in centro – could have taken metro and walked from uruguaiana, but were pressed for time / lazy. 2.50r for a one-way ferry ticket. great views of the bay and scenery (christo, pao de acucar) on the ride. full of commuters. walking off the ferry in the crush of commuters, i am looking around when i step squarely with my left foot into a 2-foot gap between the ferry ramp and the dock. scraped the shit out of my shin and ankle. much pain and bleeding. not fun times. always watch where you are going.
took a taxi to the famed museu de arte contemporânea in niteroi, designed by brazilian starchitect oscar niemeyer. nice building, wish it had been larger with a better collection. did a “museum walk” they show you (via brochure) to 2 other nearby niteroi museums, including one in an old palace and one in an old private “plantation house” with great architecture. for both of these, there was no entrance fee – they only asked you to sign in. which we did as “irwin m. fletcher” and “jack mehoffer.” fun times. walked back along the niteroi waterfront to the ferry, had time for a few street churros and a coco.
disembarked and walked straight across from praca 15 into centro. short stroll (thanks google maps!) to find terma cancun. good vibe in the boite – but about 70% big-bunda centro chicks, and 30% magras. 2 super-fit, smoking black girls – wesley snipes black. nubia and pathy. also saw a gorgeous thin blonde girl (see luana below) and a pretty, thin dark-haired girl wearing a garter. the garter-girl is named lillith (pronounced lil-itch) and speaks good english – apparently she lived in nyc and atlanta with her father before returning to rio to fuck strangers. i would have banged her but i had my hands full. started making out with nubia and watching her shake her fine black ass in front of me. up to the room for 1 hr. churro man took pathy, also a fine ass-shaker. there was a brazilian guitar & drum duo playing on the stage in the boite. fun times.
off to porcao flamengo for dinner. then over to rio antigo at 10.55pm. thought it was open until 2am, but only midnight. extremely limited selection of girls and no other guys in the boite. churro man takes the 1 semi-hot one. i blow off the ugly friend, feel up another chick – smiling, friendly, sexy but large – while enjoying a caipirinha. 150 usd – offering 2:1 reais for dollars – 60 entrance, 180 for 40 mins. opens at 2pm, gets busy at 5pm, cleared out by 11pm. always fun to drive or walk past the main road in front, which is full of transsexuals. “meat and two veg,” as austin powers would say.
i actually avoided going back to rio antigo because i didn’t want to deal with the girl i had been feeling up while churro man got up to his goodness. but i really think this place deserves more visits. check it out boys and report back.
churro man – paola. 40 mins. trifecta. 1 shot.
friday 22nd may
headed down to 4x4 around 5pm. way too crowded, a real sausage fest – lots of us older guys (50+, boasting a lot in the changing room, trying to act all cool in the boite). more of the annoying new trend i’ve seen of guys stripping their robe to the waist in the boite. whatever. standing room only – kissed hello to lorrayne from day 2, as she walked past …. too many guys, and not a great selection of girls basically doing the terma equivalent of strip-club chain-dances … had to hit eject and head instead over to cancun.
immediately say hello to nubia while churro man sits with pathy … get nubia almost immediately to intro me to the blonde girl from night before, luana. luana introduces me to her friend lillith. luana tastes like candy when i kiss her. likes drinking smirnoff ices. nubia reintroduces my face to her fine black booty-shaking ass. i really just want to whack luana but i feel bad for dissing nubia, so i take them both for an hour while churro man tags pathy and some other white chick named alana.
in the room, i tell n & l that i want to watch them. they start making out with each other – nubia eats out luana while luana makes eyes at me. i start messing around with luana. 200 per girl (each) for 1 hour in the room. … luana doggie, than brief mish, then she rides me reverse cowgirl, cowgirl, squatting cowgirl … all while nubia makes out with me. she goes back to a pounding squatting cowgirl and i blow inside her.
clean off, tell them to kiss each other, then nubia licks her some more while luana looks at me. firmed up, take nubia doggie while luana lays back and diddles herself looking at me. switch to cowgirl, squatting cowgirl, take off condom, finish myself off while nubia kisses me (making me finger her) and luana licks my balls. fun times.
head back down to the boite where we sit with the girls and roam hands all over them. churro man, who has been somewhat lusting after luana the whole time, suggests we swap – that i take pathy and he whacks luana. we make this plan and tell the girls that we are going to go get something to eat, and come back in 2 hours to see them.
dinner 2 blocks away in centro on the main plaza at r. primeiro de marco, tons of brazilians out after work on friday night, brazilian pizza with catipury ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/catupiry[/url]) cheese and carne seco, some other good stuff (chicken with bacon = stew). takes about an hour then back to cancun, sit in boite for an hour, take girls at 11.30 – i take pathy, gets herself off, sucks me, eye contact, 2 positions, nothing left, finish all over her from above, she starts fingering herself – 2, 3, 4 fingers, stands above me banging her box, then i give her dedos magicos, then massage, cuddling, ends at 12.30 at closing and we’re among the last to leave.
luana later tells me that pathy didn’t think we were actually going to come back. the expression on the receptionists (especially the cranky one) was priceless when we came back in. i think they thought we were going to complain or say we lost something ☺
50 r entrance, 200 per girl … don’t seem to charge for drinks? 454 for the twosome.
offering 1.7 reais for 1 usd, horrible exchange rate. every other terma seemed to be 2:1. welcome to the us peso.
saturday 23rd may
solarium @ 5pm …. i tagged a long, lean, tan model type that looked like penelope cruz. she told me she was from minas gervais and was studying/working as a pharmacist during the day – even telling me what to put on my leg and what our other friend should take for his cold. 1 hr. in a suite. very sensual and clean. 2 shots, one her riding me, 2nd from bj/hj. gave me her email after, which i may have gotten wrong when i emailed her later that night.
churro man – brunette, tanlined, named chris – wider face, caught him filming and had to tip her to keep it on the dl. trifecta.
dinner at guia guia, a restaurant chain (upscale) that was part of rio restaurant week. we went to the one in jardim botanico near solarium. lots of well-to-do rio folks there including 2 girls who were made up to the 9s – juicy couture bag, fancy shoes, huge tits … at the table next to us. looked stunning. i’m amazed they can walk around like that without being jacked. walked out to the lagoa nearby to catch a taxi and the path was full of people walking / biking even at 9pm. favelas looked pretty on the mountains lit up at night. passed mr. lam (“senior cordero” lol) which is a swank looking chinese restaurant ([url]http://www.mrlam.com.br/[/url]).
then off to monte carlo after a pit-stop for shower etc. at apartment. got there a little before 11, maybe 10.55. they told us they close at midnight on sat/sun. we went forth anyway. not much talent in the boite – included 2 huge-hipped, pretty hefty girls who wouldn’t have been out of place in racine, wi. not what i wanted to see. waited and waited – finally a smaller, tight bodied, asian looking chick comes in. i grab her and do some small talk before passing her to churro man.
sayuri, huge tattoo on her upper back “jonathan love forever” in english. apparently jonathan is her 3 year old son. she’s 22. you do the math. churro man only had time for 40 mins. 2 of 3 holes only, no bunda that night. she’s been rooted so much that day she had a sore on her lower back from being pushed into the bed. told cm she works at help. asked her rate, 400. tells about her half-sister who used to work there but now has an italian boyfriend. asks for costs for both – 600. volume discount!
with time running out on the clock, i grab a girl who had been sitting next to me with a huge dragon tattoo down her entire back winding over her shoulder and down to her leg. she’d been sitting with some brazilian dude and he headed out and i said “elle vai emborra?” and when she said yes, i’m all “hola. vamos!”
turns out she had pretty nasty fresh scars taped over under her tits. made me realize i’d just have her blow me and i’d do her doggy. great eye contact in the bj. banged her doggy gripping her back and feeling the scales of the dragon on the tattoo. first girl for me who took a shot in the mouth. tells me she has a 3 year-old son whose name is enzo, which – look – is tattooed in huge letters on the bottom of her forearm. named for enzo ferrari. says she knows only 2 people in rio who own ferraris, as they cost 1 million r.
sunday 24th may
initially the plan was to hit up karla’s models for a 10 girl festa around 4pm. i started calling karla’s around noon, and couldn’t get an answer. same for scortshow. took about 30 minutes to finally figure out that neither is open on sunday. neither is open on sunday! wtf!!!! new plan …..
made plans to meet up with some previous girls. cm texted his mc chick to set them up for 11pm. i texted luana to set her up. she responded back pretty quick and in my broken, misspelled porto i managed to get her to agree to come over for 3 hours at 10.30pm for 400r. that was ok i didn’t really want her there tln (easier to sleep alone). set 10.30pm target time, knowing she’d be late.
hit mc around 4.45pm – i got chave no. 1 (numero un). bare boite, very few girls, some of the fat chicks from the other night. not good. 2 african-american dudes are at the bar, one is feeling up some chick in a leopard outfit. pietra walks in and i nod, she comes over and i ask her if she remembers my friend from earlier in the week – she lies and says yes. cm enters and walks up and pulls her name pietra out of his ass – strong work. i buy her a drink, do a little touchy-touchy, and am ready to pull the trigger when leopard girl comes up. she speaks in porto to pietra and p tells me that the african american dude wants both of them for a festa. i’m like, wtf i just bought you a drink *****?? but off she goes, telling me to wait. i wait it out, nobody else whackable really comes in, my dragon girl comes back in, sit with her a bit. finally pietra comes back out, a few mins after the african american dude has returned to the bar. she sits with me, prompting a laughing shout from him of “i thought you loved me baby.” i reply “somente para uma hora.” turn to her and say “vamos” – she tells me to wait until she can finish a cigarette, lol.
upstairs great bj, i finger her culo while she blows me, and tell her i want to start in culo. she says she doesn’t do that. i say, “hey my friend told me you did it with him last week and he doesn’t lie.” she continues to protest. i say in broken porto “listen, i waited an hour for you.” so she agrees. straight to the a doggie, then mish anal with her legs on my shoulders. in between the two anal positions, she goes for the gusto with an unrequested atm as she sucks me (condom on) for a few minutes – no more tongue kisses for her in this session! changed condom, she rides me hard in cowgirl, squat cowgirl, and leaning-back hip-shaking cowgirl. finish on her tits. top 3 of the trip.
cm got a real massage – 30mins for 60r – was ok – used a lot of oil.
middle aged unattractive female masseuse.
back to the apartment for a shower up and then dinner at garota de ipanema. sayuri & jennifer (half sisters, same dad) show up for churro man at 11.40pm. dancing in the apartment. trifecta with sayuri, jennifer only gets 2 holes. pop 1 started on j and finished on both mouths. round 2 was s. showered together. whacked em both in the am (no trifecta). used a butt-plug on sayuri.
luana texts me around 9pm and says she’ll be late – is 11pm ok? i’m like, lol, knew it. she shows up around 11.10. kind of playing shy at first, doesn’t even let us take pictures of her clothed. cm insists and gets some nice candids and video of her making out with me. into the bedroom – she’s drinking vodka, i’ve got some beer. break out the toys – vibrator and pocket rocket. she goes to town on herself with them and has an orgasm while i watch. points at herself and says “un.” we cuddle, i use the dedos magicos on her while she applies the pocket rocket, and she gets “deus.” i tell her i need one now. great cowgirl on the reclining lounge chair in the room. lots of cuddling and talking after. she goes for #3, using both toys with the vibe shoved so far up her kitty that you can only see the speed-dial on the end sticking out. out on the deck for a smoke and cuddle and chat with cm and his 2 girls. back in the room for #2 for me, and #4 for her. then i get #3. for the record, my second and third orgazmos were direct shots into her open mouth as she looked up at me. she pauses and says “4 to 3 – i win!” in portuguese, with a big smile. fine fine work.
she leaves at 2.45am or so, not a clockwatcher. didn’t ask for cab money. did ask me if i smoked mj and i said no. texts me at 3.47am saying she got home and came using one of the toys (i told her to take one, and initially she wanted the pocket rocket but finally chose the vibe for being stronger). quality time had by all. my only video of the trip was of her #3 orgasm, captured by setting my camera onto movie mode and propping it up on the desk in my room. pretty good watching her legs twitch when she comes.
monday 25th may
lunch with bubba boy at frontera in ipanema. planned to call karla’s models at noon to set up a 3pm. bubba advised against it, saying pre-planning in rio was useless and just to call maybe an hour before we want them and tell them to send them over now.
called karla’s around 2.15pm. lowered the request to 4 girls, since churro man was beat from his morning session with his tln’s from sunday, and our 3rd amigo decided seeing christo was more important than a festa. whatever.
first receptionist i got didn’t speak english so i tried to tell her in broken porto we wanted 4 girls, all thin (magras) and variety of types (loiras, ruevas, morenas). gave her the street address and apartment address but she couldn’t understand me, so put an english speaker on whom i had to repeat everything to.
went down and tipped each of the 2 doormen 20r and told them we had 4 girls coming and to let them up. girls show up together in one taxi.
renata (hotter brunette)
jamilla (blonde)
julia (indian mix)
4th – curly haired carioca, bad teeth but nice eyes and tight little brown body.
renata and jamilla were fairly cute, and the other 2 were designated ball-lickers, although the curly-haired girl turned out to be a devilish little fuck. they all showed up at once, gave them some shitty drinks ( vodka, beer) to mellow things out while we planned our attack. i took the 2 brunettes first, cm took the blonde and indian girl. broke out the toys and told the girls i had presents for them – vibrator, pocket rocket, butt plug. they seemed to be pretty happy and went down on each other, using the toys etc. i started playing with their butts when they were bent over in doggie and then lubed up the plug and stuck it in both of them – one after the other. renata got it first while the other girl used the vibrator on her, then switched. blew inside curly hair with her riding me.
girls go outside to smoke cigarettes on the deck, with 45 mins still on the clock in the 2 hour session. so i find cm, who thinks we’re done (silly, silly churro man!), and tell him we need to pull the ole’ switcheroo. he agrees, so out i go on the deck and start feeling up his 2 girls. he switches to feeling up mine. meanwhile, we realize the whole scene (girls in towels, smoking, rubbing) is being filmed by two guys from an apartment across the street on their balcony. we all laugh and wave at them and head inside for round 2. which is fabulous. churro man has now fucked 6 girls in a spread of about 7 hours from 10am – 5pm. he almost pulled off the round of golf – 18 holes!! (mouth, kitty, culo on 6 girls)!!! he did anally destroy curly hair, which is fabulous.
total cost – 120r per girl, plus 50r for taxi (for group) – they demanded the taxi fare … i’m sure they pocketed it but we wanted them gone because the apartment owner was coming at 5pm to case the place and return our deposit. so the girls were there from 3.15-4.50pm and did yeoman work.
then a quick packing session, a quick cuban cigar on the deck washed down with a brahma malzbier, and off to the airport for the flight home.
this concludes the may 2009 edition of the rear admiral & churro man in rio.
here endeth "the cartman report - 2009"
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[QUOTE=Acenva]KoolKid
I hope that was Dunda's place you went up 2 different elevators... It brings back great memories... A spot I visit evey time in Rio.. Here is one off my favorites there. Carol I have posted some pictures of her before. Many times I have been there and went over the 1 hour if they are not busy. I will be there in 26 days and counting..
Ace[/QUOTE]
No I only went up 1 evelators to this terma.
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I don"t know when or where.....
[QUOTE=Acenva]KoolKid
I hope that was Dunda's place you went up 2 different elevators... It brings back great memories... A spot I visit evey time in Rio.. Here is one off my favorites there. Carol I have posted some pictures of her before. Many times I have been there and went over the 1 hour if they are not busy. I will be there in 26 days and counting..
Ace[/QUOTE]
I don"t know when or where, but damn ........I know I have banged that garota in the past.
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Edificial building at curioca #3320
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon]I will try to help with is question. I believe the establishment Ace and KK are talking about is a casa de massagem located on Rio Branco in Centro. The address is Rio Branco 185 Apartment #2114. The easiest and fastest way to reach it is by taking the metro and getting off at Carioca. Then take the exit for Rio Brancho. As you walk out the the metro station make a right. Next, crossover to the other side of Rio Branco and look for #185. Once you are in the building, you will following a spiral staircase down to the basement of the building where you will need to get in the elevator that takes you all the way up to the 20th floor. Once you reach the 20th floor, make a left and go up a flight of stair you see and then make 2 more right turns and you are there.
An advice from a newbie, if you are bad with porto like me, make sure you take a pen and paper with you and write down the name of the girl you like to session with.
DD[/QUOTE]
It is #3320 get off the metro at carioca go to Edificial building take the middle set of elevators... good luck..
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I don"t know when or where, but damn ........I know I have banged that garota in the past.[/QUOTE]
Carol is at Duda Massagems #3320 in that Rio Branco building. I've sessioned with her before.
The other casa at #2114 is Belprazer, I believe.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Fuck it I just did both Monte Carlo and Sorlarium, I did MC 1st and I hit one garota there after her I was in mood to hit something new so I went over to Solarium and than when I arrived there I seen more garotas I can count on both of my hands that I can hit. I had a great session with blonde in Solarium gave up all holes (she will be coming back to the aparmtent to continue where we left off) damn I love Rio after doing Colombia the last couple now I know why I missed this place so much. Brasiliera GDP's give the best service on earth when it comes to working girls!!!
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Just back from a week trip. Report to come. Tastes vary of course, but I thought Solarium was the best non-Centro terma on this trip -- good selection of girls, relaxed vibe. I may have caught L'uomo on a bad night. I think it can vary day to day. But we hit Solarium 2x and it was great both times. Monty was OK (I still like the facilities) and L'uomo was meh.[/QUOTE]
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Carol
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Carol is at Duda Massagems #3320 in that Rio Branco building. I've sessioned with her before.
The other casa at #2114 is Belprazer, I believe.[/QUOTE]
She is worth a repeat, everytime it gets better and better. If she get's to know you well she will possibly meet you on the weekend off. As the saying goes YMMV
Good luck
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A Great Day
went to hooker beach and chilled for a while then made my way over to mp and it was the
busiest i've seen it since i have been here. lots of new faces. got some numbers off afew girls.
i love the way the favela chicks loiter outside but never sit down inside. this chick with
huge tits and i mean huge, walks to the toilet so i descretely follow her and pretend to wash
my hands to give her a better look. she comes out and i ask her how much for 2 hours and she says 400, i say 200 so drops to 350 and i stick at 200. she says ok, but i notice that her eyes are rolling abit and i'm thinking she could be trouble.
i ask if she is completa and she then says i will not answer that, lets just see what happens? ummm more trouble!
anyway i take a gamble as she quite pretty, morena. get back to the apartment and she showers. i go to kiss her
and she says no! so i make her a vodka and she relaxes abit, and it was like the tiger in her was un-leashed, but
then she goes for the condom, and i say what no blow job? she starts harping on about the amount of girls mouths that have been around my dick? so i say ok, i'll give you 50 reals and you can get dressed. she gives in very easily, and gives a not bad deep throat session! the fuck session was long and hot with multiple pit stops for vodka. she took it well and those tits bounced everywhere. name francilene.
later i wanted to go to helpee again, so i decided hang out at ta first. as soon as i sat down i was mobbed by
various women saying buy me a chopp baby! this cute morena called rosy came and sat next to me. i really wanted
to have more of a look around but we got chatting and their was a good vibe.
we ended up talking for over an hour and then the underwear sales lady turns up so i buy her a g string
and headed back to mine. she turns out to be very keen, and asks where the camera is! she puts on her new underwear and lets me snap away. i will post them when i return home. she loved to pose, and i got some good
video of her giving head, which she does well. great sex with a cum on tounge. we exchanged numbers and i think i will see this one again.
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Rio Poll
I'd love to see a poll in the Rio section. How many of us have been with Ingrid of L'Uomo?
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[QUOTE=Country Counter]I'd love to see a poll in the Rio section. How many of us have been with Ingrid of L'Uomo?[/QUOTE]
Been there done that - on numerous occasions.
She is a sweetheart.
Junior
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Air France
Just read about the Air france flight from Rio to Paris that dissapeared. That is awful. Hope everyone on this board is safe. Kinda scary to think a plane went down so quickly it didn't even have time to radio a distress signal.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Just read about the Air france flight from Rio to Paris that dissapeared. That is awful. Hope everyone on this board is safe. Kinda scary to think a plane went down so quickly it didn't even have time to radio a distress signal.[/QUOTE]
I take the same flight on wednesday at I'm not looking forward to it.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I take the same flight on wednesday at I'm not looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]
I stopped using AF, because the flight attendants were extremely rude. When I used them I still were platinum member and they always treated me like a crap.
Now I prefer TAP, TAM or KLM, which goes from Sao Paulo.
Very unfortunate though for the passengers who were on board. They say that lightning killed the electrics... who knows.
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[QUOTE=Country Counter]I'd love to see a poll in the Rio section. How many of us have been with Ingrid of L'Uomo?[/QUOTE]
I think every black man who has been to rio within the past 8 years has fucked Ingrid!! I was talking to a buddy about this just last week. We estimated that she has probably fucked close to 3-5000 guys!! think about that the next time you want to kiss her!!!! LOL
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Air France/TAM
I was flying a lot with KLM/AF/TAM. Ot the three KLM was still the best. What a horror to change plane in Paris. Charles de Gaulle. To change plane in Amsterdam is not a problem. I usually fly Business and the AF service sucks in a big way. I do not trust TAM. They have lost last year a plane in SP and like all Brazilian airlines. Their maintenance is certainly not up to standards. If I fly to Rio, Salvador and Brasilia. I usually use TAP. It is anyhow convenient for me starting most of the time from Lisboa. If I am in central europe I usually use Condor (even their business class is not worth beeing called that) directly to the north of Brazil. They have the very best fares to the north and you have not to take inner-brazilian flights! It is worth visiting their website [url]www.condor.com[/url]. There you find quite good deals on flights. But do not expect a first-class service in economy. At least they serve some free alcoholic drinks with the meal. Their business-class is 500 € per trip more expensive than the economy and the only advantage you have is a little bit more room and your ticket is flexible. If you do not need a flexible ticket, just fly the cheapest way and save the money for our hobby.
I am sorry for the lives lost by this AF accident. Remember. Life is to short not to fuck!
Carlos
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Now That's Some Real Talk
[QUOTE=Bravo]I think every black man who has been to rio within the past 8 years has fucked Ingrid!! I was talking to a buddy about this just last week. We estimated that she has probably fucked close to 3-5000 guys!! think about that the next time you want to kiss her!!!! LOL[/QUOTE]
Sweet girl, but I must agree.
RR
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decided to have a look around the prado junior area yesterday afternoon. got there around 2pm and looked
over at the beach but it was empty. no pros hanging out so had a drink in balcony and went round to
miami peep. a big boobed girl was handing out bits of paper outside. i walked in quickly and had to laugh.
it was just as i imagined it. had a look upstairs and took a private show. the black dude was very helpful in
showing me how it all worked, and told me who was a good show. the receptionist had just gone to lunch otherwise
i would have chose her. she was walking down the stairs as i entered and was wearing a black mini skirt bearly covering that huge fat ass! lol. this place is worth a visit just for the fun of it.
on the evening rosy called and she came round for a session. she wanted pizza and said the best place is
out in ipanema. i will ask her for the name of the place, as it was really good. after a bottle of red we
staggered out and went back for another session. this place was still packed full of local brazilians at 1.30am
and people were waiting for tables.
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[QUOTE=Acenva]She is worth a repeat, everytime it gets better and better. If she get's to know you well she will possibly meet you on the weekend off. As the saying goes YMMV
Good luck[/QUOTE]
I sessioned with Carol back in November 2007 and I guess she had a boyfriend at the time. Anyway, she said she did and didn't seem that into it, at least not with me! Haha.
Great looking girl though - very exotic with perfect natural C-cups, which is rare on a brasileira based on my experiences. I have no complaints though, as I love the natural B-cups most of them sport.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I think every black man who has been to rio within the past 8 years has fucked Ingrid!! I was talking to a buddy about this just last week. We estimated that she has probably fucked close to 3-5000 guys!! think about that the next time you want to kiss her!!!! LOL[/QUOTE]
Geeeezzz...She's been there [L'uomo] since '02. I think you're being generous with that estimate bruh. :)
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Me too
[QUOTE=Keldeção]Geeeezzz...She's been there [L'uomo] since '02. I think you're being generous with that estimate bruh. :)[/QUOTE]Yep, I hit it a few times. Ingrid us very passionate and just loves sex. Period! A bit of gossip... i was at Luomo recently and my favorite girl there told me that Ingrid wouls be out for at least a month because she was getting breast implants and some liposuction done.
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[QUOTE=MrLowDown]Yep, I hit it a few times. Ingrid us very passionate and just loves sex. Period! A bit of gossip... i was at Luomo recently and my favorite girl there told me that Ingrid wouls be out for at least a month because she was getting breast implants and some liposuction done.[/QUOTE]
She was the last girl I had when I was in town. In one hour she sucked and fucked me like an animal three times. She wouldn't let me rest!
She would rate in the top 10 best sexual performers I've had. A true sex machine :-)
10 of 10 BBBJ
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Ingrid pics
[QUOTE=Pure Power]She was the last girl I had when I was in town. In one hour she sucked and fucked me like an animal three times. She wouldn't let me rest!
She would rate in the top 10 best sexual performers I've had. A true sex machine :-)
10 of 10 BBBJ[/QUOTE]Any pics of Ingrid. I'm bad with names and have been to Luomo many time.
I Wanna know if I hit it.
Thanks
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Recent pic of Ingrid posted in Photo Section
[QUOTE=Superman79]Any pics of Ingrid. I'm bad with names and have been to Luomo many time.
I Wanna know if I hit it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Check out the photo section.
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Ingrid Pictures
[QUOTE=Superman79]Any pics of Ingrid. I'm bad with names and have been to Luomo many time.
I Wanna know if I hit it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Search for "Ingrid" in the photo gallery, there are a few pictures of her. If you've been to L'uomo many times I think there's a good chance you've been with her.
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Straight from the Horse's Mouth
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]Yep, I hit it a few times. Ingrid us very passionate and just loves sex. Period! A bit of gossip... i was at Luomo recently and my favorite girl there told me that Ingrid wouls be out for at least a month because she was getting breast implants and some liposuction done.[/QUOTE]What's up guys! I am fairly new to ISG, but not a newbie to Rio. I have known Ingrid since 2004. The surgery gossip is true. I bumped into her on Nossa Copacabana during my trip in April. She told me personally that she was scheduled for breast implant surgery the following morning. She said that she would be out of work for a while, but she did not say for how long.
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[QUOTE=Keldeção]Geeeezzz...She's been there [L'uomo] since '02. I think you're being generous with that estimate bruh. :)[/QUOTE]
Actually, I am being extremely conservative!! I wouldnt be surprised in the least if the number was closer to 6-7000 men. You have to remember that Ingrid was top dog in Luomos for years, those top terma girls can average 4-7 men a day. Add in all the days when she also worked Meia Pataca and Help and the numbers are staggering!!!
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[QUOTE=Pure Power]She was the last girl I had when I was in town. In one hour she sucked and fucked me like an animal three times. She wouldn't let me rest!
She would rate in the top 10 best sexual performers I've had. A true sex machine :-)
10 of 10 BBBJ[/QUOTE] What's up Pure Power?
Yeah Ingrid is the shit I been doing her for years she only works when she wants to she can show up out of the blue work for a week or two and then don't go or show up for months at a time.
BUT, she has tons of guys that fly to Rio just to hang out with her and pays her lots of $$$ for a few days or a week worth of sucking and fucking LOL trust me she gets paid well.
As far as pictures goes she told me she got burned in the past from guys acting and sounding really nice and sweet and later she see her pictures posted all over the net later, so she doesn't allow her pictures to be taking UNLESS she known you for a really long time.
Kid Cisco
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Ingrid Math for Kicks & Grins
[QUOTE=Bravo]Actually, I am being extremely conservative!! I wouldnt be surprised in the least if the number was closer to 6-7000 men. You have to remember that Ingrid was top dog in Luomos for years, those top terma girls can average 4-7 men a day. Add in all the days when she also worked Meia Pataca and Help and the numbers are staggering!!![/QUOTE]Ok let’s be conservative and say that Ingrid started working Luomo in June 02. That would make her working there for 7 Years.
Breakdown:
Since Terma girls work 6 Days per week
6 days/week x 52 weeks in a year = 312 days/year.
Let’s be conservative and say that she averages 4 guys per night:
312 x 4 = 1248 clients Per year
Seven Years of this:
1248 per year x 7 years = 8736 clients in 7 years
Let’s say she has averaged R$150 per john.
8736 Johns x R$150 per client = R$1,310,400 over 7 Years
That’s approximately:
R$1,310,400 BRL/1.93 BRL per dollar = $678,963.00 american dollars
Average Salary per year in US Dollars:
$678,963.00/ 7 years = $96,944 per year
Wow! Does Ingrid make more than you???
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Ingrid
It took me a bit of time to find her photo, maybe I am not able to use the search function, but I found ( couple of year ago with her smiling, great photo as you see her clearly ) and yes, as I supposed, she is the one my friend was with, great service, he told me, not my type, but very friendly, amazing nice sexy smile and good english.
Now I speak in generally, I agree with Bravo that such kind of nice and GFE girls, can be with 6-7.000 men, but how is it possible they are still in business and they were not able to save a bit of money and get forever out of business cause if you are telling me, they like to be pro, I think maybe like to have different partners but they do not like to be in workplace everyday for 6-8 hours instead to be at the beach or wherever they want, so the answer here, is it always the same ? ( they spend all the money they earn, even if been with 6-7.000 men means easily chance to spend money and save too as well ? )
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Table the Discussion
Guys,
Can we give this a rest? There is a lot of speculation about someone (including what they do with their money) with whom guys have had sex but know little else. Truth is she probably has more money than 95% of the guys who post here.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]It took me a bit of time to find her photo, maybe I am not able to use the search function, but I found ( couple of year ago with her smiling, great photo as you see her clearly ) and yes, as I supposed, she is the one my friend was with, great service, he told me, not my type, but very friendly, amazing nice sexy smile and good english.
Now I speak in generally, I agree with Bravo that such kind of nice and GFE girls, can be with 6-7.000 men, but how is it possible they are still in business and they were not able to save a bit of money and get forever out of business cause if you are telling me, they like to be pro, I think maybe like to have different partners but they do not like to be in workplace everyday for 6-8 hours instead to be at the beach or wherever they want, so the answer here, is it always the same ? ( they spend all the money they earn, even if been with 6-7.000 men means easily chance to spend money and save too as well ? )[/QUOTE]I know for a fac that Ingrid has NFL and NBA players who fly her to the states, and the latest was a player for the Atlanta Falcons. Girls who hangout at Help and MP have professional men sending them money, s oI know a prize like Ingrid makes R$5,000,00 a month from men all over the world. I sessioned with her last December, and she looked great for the mileage she has on her. But damn, I'm disapointed to hear of her lip and boob job.
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Picture of Ingrid attached
Here's a picture of Ingrid. I remember she telling me she needed to go to the gym. And if anyone knows, she has a child. Not bad for a mommy.
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Ladies pay
Ladies money
Do the ladies in the termas have to pay the club out, or do they keep all that they make? I think that the house makes the lion share of the money.
Also, many ladies live day to day, and do not keep up with their money. I would think that just like any other profession only a very small percetage of of the persons in the industry hookers and or mongers actually save money and increase their net woth over a life time during their most productive years). The others are living hand to mouth, spending the money as soon as it comes in.
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Ingrid More than some
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]Ok let’s be conservative and say that Ingrid started working Luomo in June 02. That would make her working there for 7 Years.
Breakdown:
Since Terma girls work 6 Days per week
6 days/week x 52 weeks in a year = 312 days/year.
Let’s be conservative and say that she averages 4 guys per night:
312 x 4 = 1248 clients Per year
Seven Years of this:
1248 per year x 7 years = 8736 clients in 7 years
Let’s say she has averaged R$150 per john.
8736 Johns x R$150 per client = R$1,310,400 over 7 Years
That’s approximately:
R$1,310,400 BRL/1.93 BRL per dollar = $678,963.00 american dollars
Average Salary per year in US Dollars:
$678,963.00/ 7 years = $96,944 per year
Wow! Does Ingrid make more than you???[/QUOTE]
Truly alot of the working girls make more than most mongers but they have bad habits, family to support, ex's who take and some save.. and most spend a lot on food, clothing, and rent in high rent districts...
I have been to plenty of terma, and help girls places. There are some who do have a plan and some just like having sex..... The house be it terma's or your office buildings, or privates they get a good portion and most times the girl will be fined heavy for missing or giving her number out. All these things make you go mmm.
just my 2 cent's
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Guys,
Can we give this a rest? There is a lot of speculation about someone (including what they do with their money) with whom guys have had sex but know little else. Truth is she probably has more money than 95% of the guys who post here.[/QUOTE]
Seconded, ET. It does nothing to further info for people consulting the Board about finding women, for us to endlessly obsess over [i]one[/i] girl out of so many. Nor, IMHO, does hypothesizing over how much a prostitute earns, whether it bears relation to your salary, what she spends it on, etc. Such topics are for chat rooms or dedicated threads.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Guys,
Can we give this a rest? There is a lot of speculation about someone (including what they do with their money) with whom guys have had sex but know little else. Truth is she probably has more money than 95% of the guys who post here.[/QUOTE]
I agree especially as it is getting very private. Let`s know however, that many of the girls in the Termas earn much more than there clients. One girl in centaurus has worked there for 20 years! Just imagine.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]It took me a bit of time to find her photo, maybe I am not able to use the search function, but I found ( couple of year ago with her smiling, great photo as you see her clearly ) and yes, as I supposed, she is the one my friend was with, great service, he told me, not my type, but very friendly, amazing nice sexy smile and good english.
Now I speak in generally, I agree with Bravo that such kind of nice and GFE girls, can be with 6-7.000 men, but how is it possible they are still in business and they were not able to save a bit of money and get forever out of business cause if you are telling me, they like to be pro, I think maybe like to have different partners but they do not like to be in workplace everyday for 6-8 hours instead to be at the beach or wherever they want, so the answer here, is it always the same ? ( they spend all the money they earn, even if been with 6-7.000 men means easily chance to spend money and save too as well ? )[/QUOTE]
Curious vision, so should all footballers retire as soon as they make some money? I dont think so. They carry on playing to the maximom time possible. If they are offerd a transfer to Milan or Madrid they go for it. The girls that you have met are great professionals, they are great at what they do, so why would you say that they should retire early?
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"21"
Went to Termas 21 last night. My little Brasilian homie wanted to take to some downtown spots he liked to visit. We walked past Cancun (his favorite) I told him I've been there before. Went to 21. It's located around the corner from 4x4 in a back alley between Rua da Quintanda and Rua do Rosario. Prices there are R20 for entrance and three drinks and R130 if you want to spend 40 min in the cabine. Talent varied from 4-8 in my view. It was 16 girls and 12 guys. Not too bad for the price.
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[QUOTE=MrLowDown]
That’s approximately:
R$1,310,400 BRL/1.93 BRL per dollar = $678,963.00 american dollars
Average Salary per year in US Dollars:
$678,963.00/ 7 years = $96,944 per year
Wow! Does Ingrid make more than you???[/QUOTE]
You forgot one extremely important detail!!! All that money is TAX FREE!!! SO hell yeah, Ingrid brings home a great deal more a year than I do!!! Now, bringing home that type of money and being able to save that kind of money are two entirely different things!! (We are not even adding in the money that she gets every month from various suckers who dont want her to work anymore!!)
By the way I saw Ingrid last weekend and the boob job looks great on her. She had been alarmingly skinny the past two years, but she is gaining weight again. She has finally gotten her ass back , the extra weight looks fantastic.
To all the guys (and most of yall I am cool with) who are sensitive about us talking about Ingrid, please get over it. This is a discussion board where we talk about Girls, travel, sex and money! What do you think the girls do when they get together? They talk about our asses too!!!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]
To all the guys (and most of yall I am cool with) who are sensitive about us talking about Ingrid, please get over it. This is a discussion board where we talk about Girls, travel, sex and money! What do you think the girls do when they get together? They talk about our asses too!!![/QUOTE]
So true...it's hilarious. I remember back '06 watching some Simp turn orange once someone else mentioned her name in front of other guys who'd been with her.
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Ingrid's income
Don't know if Ingrid makes more than the mongers as we do not know what an "average" monger make after tax. We also do not know exactly how much R$ Ingrid make.
The maths assume Ingrid works six days/week, 52 weeks/year. I don't know any termas open 52 week/year. Even assume a 50 weeks schedule, no girl works all 50 weeks as they have days that cannot work. Also, you are not getting 4 clients per day, there are days the girl don't book anything. Finally, the girl don't take home R$150 per client. Depending on the house, for a 40 mins call, the house takes at least half of it and that leaves the girl at most half of the money. On the days that she makes nothing, she still owes the house money and the money will be taken out from the paycheck. My guess is, even for a top girl who works "diligently", she'll be lucky to make about US$60K. Still lots of money for Brasil. Then like other members mentioned, many girls have a lot of obligations and bills to pay. Furthermore, most of them have no sense of money management so they make a lot and also spend a lot. Toward the end of their careers, not much money left. Someone used to say, the problem with poor people is never for lack of money. It is money management.
Their career is really like football player. A few years and that's about all. Unlike a job in a business whereby your income improves as you acquire more experiences. For these girls, it is actually on an inverse declining curve. Case in point, Ingrid is now doing a boob job showing the age is catching up on her. In 3 yrs, she will need another and another while at the same time, her pricing scale continues to go down....
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purpose of the forum
[QUOTE=Bravo]
To all the guys (and most of yall I am cool with) who are sensitive about us talking about Ingrid, please get over it. This is a discussion board where we talk about Girls, travel, sex and money! What do you think the girls do when they get together? They talk about our asses too!!![/QUOTE]
With due respect, that's not how a lot of people see it, AFAIAA. [color=red]"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."[/color]
Now if everyone else sees it as a discussion board to chew the fat, that's fine. I've nothing against it. I just don't personally feel any need to do that.
The reason people come to the Board is to get useful info. I've got plenty over the years and try to contribute on that basis when I can. It is already hard enough for people who come with specific questions, like how to get to such-and-such a venue and a million other practical issues. They have to trawl through an eternity of posts that don't convey any useful info. I realise there has to be a certain leeway, but if the Board were to change and simply become a discussion, then it would cease to serve its primary function.
As I said, no disrespect to anyone who feels the need to chat, but it's not my bag. It could be done by PMs for instance. Or specific threads (like the one on the exchange rate) if there is enough demand. I don't need to 'get over it' - and people aren't being overly 'sensitive' - just pointing out the specific nature of ISG. Without which, a lot of us wouldn't have got this far.
I often think it would be good if there were a chatroom or discussion for the times when it's nice to just 'hang out' as it were. Personally I think that if we make ISG that, then we lose something else.
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Ingrid
Oh come on, Chris, lighten up. :D You know I love you, man, but on this one I have to disagree with you. The guys are exchanging info on "sex with a woman", even if it is just a single particular one for the last few pages of posts.
But it's Ingrid after all! The legend! I have just tried to count how many times I have tapped her, and even after trying to go though my old Rio posts I still did not manage to get a correct count. Everybody should have a go with Ingrid. She is THAT good.
Now, 4 guys a day is a lot for a girl working at L'uomo. Often they stick with the same guy the whole evening; this includes Ingrid. I know I have cockblocked her many evenings, where I came in when L'uomo opened and stayed with her the whole time, drinking, chatting, and dancing, but only sessioning once or twice. I love this girl ... well, you know what I mean ;)
NFL players flying her to the States? Now that brings a smile to my face. Must remember that next time I watch the Falcons.
euro
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Yet More on Ingrid
Indeed it does say something useful that people have come out of the woodwork to praise Ingrid (and I'd like to join the chorus)! It's like Jak told me when he introduced me:
1. She's famous
2. Consistently good performers deserve to be rewarded
If she's in Rio and you don't see her, you're missing out!
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Well....
[QUOTE=Monger Man]Indeed it does say something useful that people have come out of the woodwork to praise Ingrid (and I'd like to join the chorus)! It's like Jak told me when he introduced me:
1. She's famous
2. Consistently good performers deserve to be rewarded
If she's in Rio and you don't see her, you're missing out![/QUOTE]
Well.....whether we like it or not, I guess we all have something in common.
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Help still open
We are writing epithets for Help recently but it sounds like Help has survived for now. What's the story on Help, sounds like it survived and isn't closing down, I saw someone say November....how does this place keep doing it?!
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Brazilian babes with money!
considering some of the gdps i know and the "clients" i've met in my travels, there should be no doubt that the more popular garotas make more than many of our *****-monger brethren (including me). hell, we all know gdps that own fancy cars, have nice houses in barra da tijuca, etc. so what? do you plan to balance their checkbooks or screw their brains out?
ingrid is a cool chick. i only went with her once and when i did she ended up peeing in my mouth ...... accidently. don't even ask. other than that little mishap, i had a good time with her and would give her another go if/when i bump into her again.
- dsk
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[QUOTE=Euro100]Oh come on, Chris, lighten up. :D You know I love you, man, but on this one I have to disagree with you. The guys are exchanging info on "sex with a woman", even if it is just a single particular one for the last few pages of posts.[/QUOTE]
Oh, OK. Maybe I just have a lump in my throat at the thought of spending that sort of money on a terma girl. You know what a cheapskate I am . . .:D
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[QUOTE=Lennox]We are writing epithets for Help recently but it sounds like Help has survived for now. What's the story on Help, sounds like it survived and isn't closing down, I saw someone say November....how does this place keep doing it?![/QUOTE]
Everyone seems to know someone that has firsthand knowledge. I just asked one of the rental guys, John Thompson. He says the end of the summer. Not sure if that was suppose to mean the Brazilian summer or the American summer, but I think the latter.
ryjer
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[quote=devilspinkick] she ended up peeing in my mouth ...... accidently. don't even ask. other than that little mishap, - dsk[/quote]
little mishap..................ok, i won't ask!!! but was her aim off or something???
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Everyone seems to know someone that has firsthand knowledge. I just asked one of the rental guys, John Thompson. He says the end of the summer. Not sure if that was suppose to mean the Brazilian summer or the American summer, but I think the latter.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I just asked [i]o gerente[/i] last night and with a smile on his face he said "Never, maybe in 5 years". Not sure if he was joking but I didn't press the issue.
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[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon]I will try to help with is question. I believe the establishment Ace and KK are talking about is a casa de massagem located on Rio Branco in Centro. The address is Rio Branco 185 Apartment #2114. The easiest and fastest way to reach it is by taking the metro and getting off at Carioca. Then take the exit for Rio Brancho. As you walk out the the metro station make a right. Next, crossover to the other side of Rio Branco and look for #185. Once you are in the building, you will following a spiral staircase down to the basement of the building where you will need to get in the elevator that takes you all the way up to the 20th floor. Once you reach the 20th floor, make a left and go up a flight of stair you see and then make 2 more right turns and you are there.
An advice from a newbie, if you are bad with porto like me, make sure you take a pen and paper with you and write down the name of the girl you like to session with.
DD[/QUOTE]
I knew those directions to the place sounded familiar. A guy from L.A. showed me their website and we had to call them for directions. I went there 3 years ago and it took forever to find it. Once I arrived they were just closing.
[url]http://www.belprazer.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Keldeção]I knew those directions to the place sounded familiar. A guy from L.A. showed me their website and we had to call them for directions. I went there 3 years ago and it took forever to find it. Once I arrived they were just closing.
[url]http://www.belprazer.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
I will be giving this place a shot next week, just to try something different. Anyone have an opinion as far as quality, service, and price as far as this place is concerned? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Little mishap..................ok, I won't ask!!! But was her aim off or something???[/QUOTE]
Nah, it was at point blank range. You know sometimes chicks have to go in the middle of the act and can't hold it in. Sometimes when they orgasm they lose control of their bladder. Now you've got the picture.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I will be giving this place a shot next week, just to try something different. Anyone have an opinion as far as quality, service, and price as far as this place is concerned? Thanks.[/QUOTE]So is this, (or any other Centro terma), open on the weekends? It seems that downtown shuts down on the weekend. Shame.
I couldn't find the belprazer days of operation that on their website. I saw something elsewhere for a link to their full info in gpguia.net, but I am not in BR now so I couldn't access gpguia.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I will be giving this place a shot next week, just to try something different. Anyone have an opinion as far as quality, service, and price as far as this place is concerned? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
When I went there the half the girls were 8's with afew 6 and 7's. I took bruna and I give her and A for sexual performance and enthusiasm. Also Luana
was real cute, but I never found the time to go back and session with her. I wrote a report about this place not so long ago. I've just left brazil and want to get back asap!!!
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downtown hunting at weekends
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]It seems that downtown shuts down on the weekend.[/QUOTE]
Yes, for the most part, as most people find. I don't know the one mentioned (sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185 isn't it?) but the Rio Branco ones tend to follow the rule. Sometimes they advertise times in O Globo so it's always worth checking, esp on a Friday which includes the listings for cinemas and other non-gdp stuff. I agree it looks good and there's been great reports on here. I personally get put off by the hike up the elevators and unpredictable availability but probably I shouldn't.
Unless you happen to know what's open at a particular time - eg Casarao will sometimes open at weekends, or BA85 on Saturday mornings - I find it's best to check these details out when you are there during the week (or phone).
Often if there are a few open for a short time then the quality of girls is poorer I think. They rely on weekday business traffic - especially as people come out of work with dosh to spend! So that's when a lot of the best girls want to concentrate their efforts. Downtown joints, with the exception of the big expensive termas, are not big institutions, so you don't get the quantity of either 4x4 at one end or VM at the other. Hunting at weekends just narrows the odds exponentially.
If you're in town for some other reason it's always worth a look round of course. Maybe combine it with a morning visit to the market at Uruguiana station for instance.
Best exception is North Centro - the area between Vargas and the docks. Some of these places open late, even weekend evenings. You have to explore to find out as they'll change. There's a selection of 1R and classy places. Too many to list again (see Sperto's List). But the back-up is Florida and Scandinavia at Praca Maua. Not that that's a great back up though as quality varies so much depending on whether there's a ship in harbour.
If you do go downtown for cheapos, you can always head off to VM if you don't strike lucky - it's only a few stops.
My fave for weekends is to line up chicks that are willing to visit me. Ask the ones you like during the week if they will do it and arrange prices inc how much if anything for taxis. Stay in, have sex, order pizza, have sex, go to beach, watch telenova and have sex, sleep, have sex, kick her out ready for the next day ;) ;)
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Vm
Having only a couple of days left in Rio, I finally decided to make a trip to VM by myself. The metro ride was uneventful. However, when I got out of the station I got my direction wrong and took a wrong turn. Next thing I know, I was passing by favelas and had a few "what's he doing here" stares (easily one of the more intense moments of my dear life). So the "flight or fight" reflex kicked in and I was quickly on my way back to the metro station. Once back at the station, I was able to reorient myself and find my way to VM.
I got just one word to describe VM, filthy. I was just shocked how dirty the entire place was. I casually strolled through the street and saw a couple girls sitting inside bars (did not get a good look at their faces). Suffice to say if you think BA85 is seedy, just wait til you see VM!
Sadly, with my lack of porto and some nervousness, I didn't partake with any of the girls. And I would not go back to VM alone, ever again. However, if anyone on this board (preferably someone who has been to VM before) is willing to come to VM with me and show me how the place operates I am available on Saturday and Sunday. We could meet at any one of the metro stations in copacabana.
DD
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Yes, for the most part, as most people find. I don't know the one mentioned (sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185 isn't it? ) but the Rio Branco ones tend to follow the rule. Sometimes they advertise times in O Globo so it's always worth checking, esp on a Friday which includes the listings for cinemas and other non-gdp stuff. I agree it looks good and there's been great reports on here. I personally get put off by the hike up the elevators and unpredictable availability but probably I shouldn't.
Unless you happen to know what's open at a particular time. Eg Casarao will sometimes open at weekends, or BA85 on Saturday mornings. I find it's best to check these details out when you are there during the week (or phone).
Often if there are a few open for a short time then the quality of girls is poorer I think. They rely on weekday business traffic. Especially as people come out of work with dosh to spend! So that's when a lot of the best girls want to concentrate their efforts. Downtown joints, with the exception of the big expensive termas, are not big institutions, so you don't get the quantity of either 4x4 at one end or VM at the other. Hunting at weekends just narrows the odds exponentially.
If you're in town for some other reason it's always worth a look round of course. Maybe combine it with a morning visit to the market at Uruguiana station for instance.
Best exception is North Centro. The area between Vargas and the docks. Some of these places open late, even weekend evenings. You have to explore to find out as they'll change. There's a selection of 1R and classy places. Too many to list again (see Sperto's List). But the back-up is Florida and Scandinavia at Praca Maua. Not that that's a great back up though as quality varies so much depending on whether there's a ship in harbour.
If you do go downtown for cheapos, you can always head off to VM if you don't strike lucky. It's only a few stops.
My fave for weekends is to line up chicks that are willing to visit me. Ask the ones you like during the week if they will do it and arrange prices inc how much if anything for taxis. Stay in, have sex, order pizza, have sex, go to beach, watch telenova and have sex, sleep, have sex, kick her out ready for the next day [/QUOTE]What about Terma Cancun. Cancun (Rua do Carmo, 64, Centro) also opened in November, and is a spinoff of 4X4. This new place, with a "whiskeria" next door, is a great addition to the downtown options. All facilities are brand new, and the owners have invested a fair amount in the facilities. The rooms are among the nicest in Rio, and the shower and sauna facilities are a definite step up from their sibling. The suites are especially nice, with some having both small saunas and Jacuzzis.
Cancun recruited about 50 garotas from other downtown termas, so they are off to a quick start, and I expect the numbers will grow as the client base increases. The talent level is just below that of 4X4 and 65, but that’s likely to change, especially given the prices at Cancun.
Cancun is located on a side street between Rua Buenos Aires and Rua do Rosario; in other words, just a block or two from both 4X4 and 65! That means there are 4 "first division" termas within a four-block radius in Centro, giving Centro the highest major termas density in Rio.
Prices are similar to 4X4. Entrance is 30 reais and the costs of programs range from $150 for 40 minutes in a basic (but quite nice) cabine to $350 for 90 minutes in a super-lux suite, with 60 minute sessions running between $170 and $220, depending on the features of the suite.
As with most of the other downtown termas, Cancun is open Mon.-Fri. From 2pm until midnight.
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Cancun
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]What about Terma Cancun.[/QUOTE]
I really like Cancun. Just to clarify, you can go to the whiskeria in street clothes and the entrance is R$20. The same girls as the termas.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I really like Cancun. Just to clarify, you can go to the whiskeria in street clothes and the entrance is R$20. The same girls as the termas.[/QUOTE]I also like 502. That termas has a lot of bunda. I had a gfe who took up 4 days of my 9 day trip, and I couldn't get to it. However, both Cancun and 502 are nice place if one wants something different.
In 502 you wear street clothes. But there are showers in the rooms. I guess 502 saves money from not watch robes and sandals.
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Early next week
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]So is this, (or any other Centro terma), open on the weekends? It seems that downtown shuts down on the weekend. Shame.
I couldn't find the belprazer days of operation that on their website. I saw something elsewhere for a link to their full info in gpguia.net, but I am not in BR now so I couldn't access gpguia.[/QUOTE]
I will call ahead of time to ask for hours of operation, then hunt the place down, and ofcourse fuck Bruna or some other garota, then report.
I just got into town and settling in. I also have a couple of gals I know from previous trips that have been comming over.
As soon as I am done screwing their brains out, I will hit belprazer early next week. Hey kid.......did Bruna give you a bbbj or covered?
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Saw her tonight
[QUOTE=Bravo]
By the way I saw Ingrid last weekend and the boob job looks great on her. She had been alarmingly skinny the past two years, but she is gaining weight again. [b]She has finally gotten her ass back[/b] , the extra weight looks fantastic.
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I thought you'd might be exaggerating but Goddamn you weren't lying. :D
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]What about Terma Cancun. Cancun (Rua do Carmo, 64, Centro) also opened in November, and is a spinoff of 4X4. This new place, with a "whiskeria" next door, is a great addition to the downtown options. All facilities are brand new, and the owners have invested a fair amount in the facilities. The rooms are among the nicest in Rio, and the shower and sauna facilities are a definite step up from their sibling. The suites are especially nice, with some having both small saunas and Jacuzzis.
Cancun recruited about 50 garotas from other downtown termas, so they are off to a quick start, and I expect the numbers will grow as the client base increases. The talent level is just below that of 4X4 and 65, but that’s likely to change, especially given the prices at Cancun.
Cancun is located on a side street between Rua Buenos Aires and Rua do Rosario; in other words, just a block or two from both 4X4 and 65! That means there are 4 "first division" termas within a four-block radius in Centro, giving Centro the highest major termas density in Rio.
Prices are similar to 4X4. Entrance is 30 reais and the costs of programs range from $150 for 40 minutes in a basic (but quite nice) cabine to $350 for 90 minutes in a super-lux suite, with 60 minute sessions running between $170 and $220, depending on the features of the suite.
As with most of the other downtown termas, Cancun is open Mon.-Fri. From 2pm until midnight.[/QUOTE]
You are right about Cancun opening in November but that was in 2005. I was there when it first opened. The facility is still as nice today as it was then. The talent in my opinion has not taken off as I hoped it would back then. I notice some garotas go back and fourth between 4x4 and that place. They don't get nearly as many clients as 4x4 from what I have seen, which might keep some of the stars away.
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Belprazer
Just a small note about Belprazer to avoid confusion.
It´s on sala 2114 on Rio Branco 185 and not Rio Branco 156 (Ed Central).
Sala 2114 on R B 156 also have a casa (not a good one), but it's not Belprazer.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=875442&postcount=1038[/url]
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Thanks Sperto
[QUOTE=Sperto]Just a small note about Belprazer to avoid confusion.
It´s on sala 2114 on Rio Branco 185 and not Rio Branco 156 (Ed Central).
Sala 2114 on R B 156 also have a casa (not a good one), but it's not Belprazer.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=875442&postcount=1038[/url][/QUOTE]
I will be checking this place out within the next day or so.
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Looking For Tatiana
Looking for Tatiana
I met her and her 2 friends at MP one night. She is around 5 foot 9
long brown hair and I would say a morena but she said she was black. She
has a mole/beauty spot above her lip on the right side. Shes built thick and
has a big firm butt.
One of her friends she was hanging with is also black with big tits, and has multiple
peircings. She has 3 in her tounge and one in the clit that she let me see.
Tatiana says she used to work in strip bars around prado junior. She somtimes wears a
all in one trouser suit that flairs out on the legs and is multi coloured (greens/ yellows.
One night at Balcony she invited me back to her apartment where her cousins were there
smoking. We all had a great night, but I was too wasted to have a session with her. I said
I would call the next day but have mis-laid the number.
I'm back home now so can't search for her
If anyone has contact details for her or can pass on a message to her for me that would be
sound!!
Thanks
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come on...she isn't even that hot!!!
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Here's a picture of Ingrid. I remember she telling me she needed to go to the gym. And if anyone knows, she has a child. Not bad for a mommy.[/QUOTE]Did someone lower the bar? She looks a little masculine if you want my opinion. I wouldn't have said anything, but there was so much talk about her I spent 10 minutes running her picture down and this is what you all are taking up all the board space with. Cmon! Please
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Looking for Tatiana
I met her and her 2 friends at MP one night. She is around 5 foot 9 long brown hair and I would say a morena but she said she was black. She has a mole/beauty spot above her lip on the right side. Shes built thick and has a big firm butt.
One of her friends she was hanging with is also black with big tits, and has multiple peircings. She has 3 in her tounge and one in the clit that she let me see.
Tatiana says she used to work in strip bars around prado junior. She somtimes wears a all in one trouser suit that flairs out on the legs and is multi coloured (greens/ yellows.
One night at Balcony she invited me back to her apartment where her cousins were there smoking. We all had a great night, but I was too wasted to have a session with her. I said I would call the next day but have mis-laid the number.
I'm back home now so can't search for her
If anyone has contact details for her or can pass on a message to her for me that would be sound!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Thanks for the description. I'll let you know that I found her.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Looking for Tatiana
I met her and her 2 friends at MP one night. She is around 5 foot 9
long brown hair and I would say a morena but she said she was black. She
has a mole/beauty spot above her lip on the right side. Shes built thick and
has a big firm butt.
One of her friends she was hanging with is also black with big tits, and has multiple
peircings. She has 3 in her tounge and one in the clit that she let me see.
Tatiana says she used to work in strip bars around prado junior. She somtimes wears a
all in one trouser suit that flairs out on the legs and is multi coloured (greens/ yellows.
One night at Balcony she invited me back to her apartment where her cousins were there
smoking. We all had a great night, but I was too wasted to have a session with her. I said
I would call the next day but have mis-laid the number.
I'm back home now so can't search for her
If anyone has contact details for her or can pass on a message to her for me that would be
sound!!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the description. I'll let you know if I bang her :)
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Say No More
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Thanks for the description. I'll let you know if I bang her :)[/QUOTE]Copy cat!!!! But I said it nicer.
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[QUOTE=Damage Control]Did someone lower the bar? She looks a little masculine if you want my opinion. I wouldn't have said anything, but there was so much talk about her I spent 10 minutes running her picture down and this is what you all are taking up all the board space with. Cmon! Please[/QUOTE]C'mon, here we go. If you never driven a nice car, then I could you say it's not worth it. How can you really tell us all you don't know what you're talking about. When I saw her in a robe and the bent over doggie-style, she assume the position better than anyother female and when you put your meat in her, right away you know she's gonna be good. Her puss is a real cat purrying.
You just don't know!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Looking for Tatiana
Thanks[/QUOTE]
She is at MP damn near 7 days a week
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Ingrid - Attitude and performance is 90%
Damage Control,
I responded to your first post over on the Odessa thread. Slavic women are my preference, so my high marks for Ingrid have a lot to do with her consistently good attitude and high level of performance. I never thought of her as masculine - actually has a very pretty face. I don't think that picture does her justice.
Jackson made a comment I remember from five or six years ago - basically, if you find a girl attractive, then attitude is 90%. I remember it because I've found it to be so true as I monger through the years. If you ever get to Luomos or Help and meet her and feel an attraction to her, I'd recommend her.
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I agree with Jak
I first met Ingrid at MC years ago, it was her third day there. My buddy sessioned with her and we both came away with the feeling that she was a very nice girl. Later that evening we met her again at help, there was another guy who wanted to take her but since she already hooked up with my buddy and promised him another round, she went him that night.
She eventually moved to Luomo and became the superstar that she is now.
From what I've known she is really nice and is a fantastic performer. Being a GDP for a few years will take a toll on a girl--bad eating habits, constant partying, drugs--very few are able to maintain their figure over the years..How many GDPs do u guys know from six years ago who still look decent today? The lifestyle will still take its toll but Ingrid has fared well despite the circumstances.
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Thumbs up!
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Copy cat!!!! But I said it nicer.[/QUOTE]
Props to you sir. I got a good laugh from it. Have fun and stay safe.
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[QUOTE=Damage Control]Did someone lower the bar? She looks a little masculine if you want my opinion. I wouldn't have said anything, but there was so much talk about her I spent 10 minutes running her picture down and this is what you all are taking up all the board space with. Cmon! Please[/QUOTE]
Yeah Damage Control,
I have to agree with some of the other guys here.... That picture. Hell, even pics I have of her(Ingrid) don't do her justice. A much better looking woman in person!!! But, her performance & vibe are really 2nd to NONE!!! You just would have to be around her to really understand what the guys are trying to say about Ingrid!!! Best advice, when you hit Rio go to Luomos & keep your eyes open for her.... Then give your judgement.
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She was heavier ~ curvier ~ when I first met her in 2002, looked better imhoho!
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I Totally Agree!!!
[QUOTE=Veterano]She was heavier ~ curvier ~ when I first met her in 2002, looked better imhoho![/QUOTE]
I agree!!! I got w/ her in 2005 & she was a SERIOUS POPAZUDA!!!! I thought that she looks her best with some weight on her too... I'm glad to her she is gaining it back!!!!
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Ingrid
[QUOTE=Damage Control]Did someone lower the bar? She looks a little masculine if you want my opinion. I wouldn't have said anything, but there was so much talk about her I spent 10 minutes running her picture down and this is what you all are taking up all the board space with. Cmon! Please[/QUOTE]Damage Control Ingrid is a beautiful woman but not the most beautiful woman that I have been with in Brazil and I'm just stating my option but woman sucked the lining out of the Black Snake cock.
When I first meet her I didn't know her reputation never heard of the woman but I was the lucky guy she approached and it's a day I will always remember because all cock sucking honies all over the world I judge their performance based on Ingrid the woman skills are exceptional.
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WiFi
In rio where is the safest place to take your computer and use wifi?
Thanks guys
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Centro Termas
I did a mini tour of all of the higher end termas in No Centro earlier yesterday. For example, I located 4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502. 502 was not open yet, but it was kind of odd not to see any kind of sign outside as it had a couple of years ago when I was last in there.
On the way to Termas 65, I crossed through some narrow alley, and happen to stumble into a termas called Buenos Aires 21. I walked up the stairs and saw an old lady who just stared at me. I was not sure what this place was all about ( there was no sign indicating what this place was about), but when I asked if they had a bar in there, she said yes, and started mumbling time and prices for garotas. It was not open yet, but was going to open in 30 minutes. I could not stay, was in a hurry at this point.
This place did not look anything like Buenos Aires 85, it looked higher end. I remember the old bat telling me it was 20R entrance. Minimum 40 minutes with gal in cabina. At any rate, does anyone have info. on this particular place? Good or bad.....or just decent?
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Bel Prazer
This place is just as Sperto said, according to his feedback and ratings of Mass. Parlors. It is 110R for an hour. The rooms were clean. There was a large selection...about 12 or 13 garotas.
Seems like they do not get to many tourists, no one seemed to know much english. Not a problem for me, but my buddy had a difficult time in communicating with the garotas. Service was good, not bad for my friend. I think, not sure now, he went with Luana.
I had Bruna, she is a tall gal with a brazilian body and she is strong, so if you decide to go with her, your better bring your A game. Luckily, I was between an A and B on this day.
I had a good laugh before leaving when they had me fill out a questionaire on service, facilty and general attention. What the f**k? This is taking gdp line of work to another level.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]
On the way to Termas 65, I crossed through some narrow alley, and happen to stumble into a termas called Buenos Aires 21. I walked up the stairs and saw an old lady who just stared at me. I was not sure what this place was all about ( there was no sign indicating what this place was about), but when I asked if they had a bar in there, she said yes, and started mumbling time and prices for garotas. It was not open yet, but was going to open in 30 minutes. I could not stay, was in a hurry at this point.
This place did not look anything like Buenos Aires 85, it looked higher end. I remember the old bat telling me it was 20R entrance. Minimum 40 minutes with gal in cabina. At any rate, does anyone have info. on this particular place? Good or bad.....or just decent?[/QUOTE]
Mangera the place is either a hit or miss. I was there the other day. Subjectively, the girls are not that bad considering the price. I won't go deeper into that because a.)I don't know what your type is and b) a 4 to me maybe a 8 to you. Who knows? I think it's worth checking out. I was just a little stunned they require you to change clothes for such a cheap admission.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=889090&postcount=1314[/url]
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Other Spots
[QUOTE=Mangera]I did a mini tour of all of the higher end termas in No Centro earlier yesterday. For example, I located 4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502. 502 was not open yet, but it was kind of odd not to see any kind of sign outside as it had a couple of years ago when I was last in there.
On the way to Termas 65, I crossed through some narrow alley, and happen to stumble into a termas called Buenos Aires 21. I walked up the stairs and saw an old lady who just stared at me. I was not sure what this place was all about ( there was no sign indicating what this place was about), but when I asked if they had a bar in there, she said yes, and started mumbling time and prices for garotas. It was not open yet, but was going to open in 30 minutes. I could not stay, was in a hurry at this point.
This place did not look anything like Buenos Aires 85, it looked higher end. I remember the old bat telling me it was 20R entrance. Minimum 40 minutes with gal in cabina. At any rate, does anyone have info. on this particular place? Good or bad.....or just decent?[/QUOTE]
I did a similar tour of the low-end casa in Central. I went one on Carioca 59, and when I entered throught the glass doors, the funniest thing happened. The girls locks the door WTF (now yous' can't leave!). I asked about the prices and things and she says your $3r fee gets you a beer. Then she starts to give me the hard sell! I was like "I'm good". I could have done one of the 10 that where there, but the place was so dark I really couldn't see any faces!
I also went to two on Lenardo Martin ave. All I can say is "sweat box". But they did have a live samba band playing there and the girls where moving. I did do a sesseion there with a mullata; and as soon as I said "vamos" she started doing the rain dance like she just won the lottery. Sex was okay.
There where a couple of other spots that I stoped in. They weren't on the map I was using (see Sperto's map of Centro Casa) but when you passed some of these places, and they have the blinking lights outside, YOU KNEW what the place was! Gotta love Rio
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Carioca 59
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I did a similar tour of the low-end casa in Central. I went one on Carioca 59, and when I entered throught the glass doors, the funniest thing happened. The girls locks the door WTF (now yous' can't leave!). I asked about the prices and things and she says your $3r fee gets you a beer. Then she starts to give me the hard sell! I was like "I'm good". I could have done one of the 10 that where there, but the place was so dark I really couldn't see any faces!
I also went to two on Lenardo Martin ave. All I can say is "sweat box". But they did have a live samba band playing there and the girls where moving. I did do a sesseion there with a mullata; and as soon as I said "vamos" she started doing the rain dance like she just won the lottery. Sex was okay.
There where a couple of other spots that I stoped in. They weren't on the map I was using (see Sperto's map of Centro Casa) but when you passed some of these places, and they have the blinking lights outside, YOU KNEW what the place was! Gotta love Rio[/QUOTE]
I have been to this place on a few occassions, only to partake on one occassion. I was with a brazilian buddy, and during this particular visit, we took 2 mulatas and a loira to a back room, and all hell broke loose back there. The gerente was smiling when I said to all involved, all three garotas are going in along with my pal and myself.
This was a couple of years ago, and cost us something crazy, like 150R for an hour with the 3 garotas. I had to negotiate with the manager. We had bought quite a few drinks for the 3 ladies as well as for us, so the manager was a little more flexible with the prices to get the girls to the back room.
We had a ball, and thats when I came to the conclusion that you don't always have to go to Solarium, 4x4, MC, or Luomos to have alot of fun.
That being said, I still do enjoy my occassional visit to a couple of the highend termas. As for the lower end one's, you have to have a good eye to find diomands in the rough, speak a little Port. to help create some good chemistry, and sometimes you can have some breaks along the way, and its all good my friends.
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Game of Death
[QUOTE=Mangera]I did a mini tour of all of the higher end termas in No Centro earlier yesterday. For example, I located 4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502. 502 was not open yet, but it was kind of odd not to see any kind of sign outside as it had a couple of years ago when I was last in there.
On the way to Termas 65, I crossed through some narrow alley, and happen to stumble into a termas called Buenos Aires 21. I walked up the stairs and saw an old lady who just stared at me. I was not sure what this place was all about ( there was no sign indicating what this place was about), but when I asked if they had a bar in there, she said yes, and started mumbling time and prices for garotas. It was not open yet, but was going to open in 30 minutes. I could not stay, was in a hurry at this point.
This place did not look anything like Buenos Aires 85, it looked higher end. I remember the old bat telling me it was 20R entrance. Minimum 40 minutes with gal in cabina. At any rate, does anyone have info. on this particular place? Good or bad.....or just decent?[/QUOTE]
Last time I was in Rio, I had this crazy idea of doing a "game of death" style fuk-a-thon in BA 85 - like the Bruce Lee move when he has to fight differnet opponets on every level of the pagoda.
My plan was to stop on EVERY floor and fuck a girl in the same day, on one visit. I did do girls on the 4th and 3rd floor, but was out of bullets after that. I left in defeat vowing to take my reveange next time!
Next time I'm there, I'm going to take some buddies with me and make a wager of who can surive fucking on all 4 floor in one visit. Game of Death Rio style is what I'll call it.
If anyone else wants to take the challege, be my guest; and report back and tell us how you did!
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Death.......j/k or not.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Last time I was in Rio, I had this crazy idea of doing a "game of death" style fuk-a-thon in BA 85 - like the Bruce Lee move when he has to fight differnet opponets on every level of the pagoda.
My plan was to stop on EVERY floor and fuck a girl in the same day, on one visit. I did do girls on the 4th and 3rd floor, but was out of bullets after that. I left in defeat vowing to take my reveange next time!
Next time I'm there, I'm going to take some buddies with me and make a wager of who can surive fucking on all 4 floor in one visit. Game of Death Rio style is what I'll call it.
If anyone else wants to take the challege, be my guest; and report back and tell us how you did![/QUOTE]
Whoever is up for the challenge, make sure you wear your raincoat, and don't go down on any of those gdp's. Bottoms up!
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[QUOTE=Mangera]This place is just as Sperto said, according to his feedback and ratings of Mass. Parlors. It is 110R for an hour. The rooms were clean. There was a large selection...about 12 or 13 garotas.
Seems like they do not get to many tourists, no one seemed to know much english. Not a problem for me, but my buddy had a difficult time in communicating with the garotas. Service was good, not bad for my friend. I think, not sure now, he went with Luana.
I had Bruna, she is a tall gal with a brazilian body and she is strong, so if you decide to go with her, your better bring your A game. Luckily, I was between an A and B on this day.
I had a good laugh before leaving when they had me fill out a questionaire on service, facilty and general attention. What the f**k? This is taking gdp line of work to another level.[/QUOTE]
Yes Bruna has very fierce sexual skills, really knows how to please a man. I was knackered after my session with her. I wanted to go back for Luana but never had the time. I will try for her on my next visit! I recommend Bel Prazer!!
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I did a similar tour of the low-end casa in Central. I went one on Carioca 59, and when I entered throught the glass doors, the funniest thing happened. The girls locks the door WTF (now yous' can't leave!). I asked about the prices and things and she says your $3r fee gets you a beer. Then she starts to give me the hard sell! I was like "I'm good". I could have done one of the 10 that where there, but the place was so dark I really couldn't see any faces!
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I think you must be getting some places confused. Carioca 59 is a nice dirty stair. The front door is wood. The doors on the individual places as you walk up are left open during 'business hours' but I'm pretty sure none are glass and there would be no room for doors plural. Your description sounds a bit like Casarao across the road, which can be rather dark inside. I find it hard to imagine anyone locking the swing doors as you go in (past reception, where you pick up a tab and are charged a nominal entrance fee at peak times). Occasionally a girl will give you are hard sell, which doesn't really happen at C.59 (at least in my six or so years of going there). 10 is a lot of girls to cram into any of the openings in C.59 but a more normal number for Casarao. 3R is average for a beer in any of these type of places. There is a place with glass doors a hundred yards or so down the street though I haven't been for a long time and it's more pricey. If you quote the price you paid for the [i]girl[/i] it may be clearer where you actually had fun. (Casarao is slightly more than C.59 and both are cheaper than several upmarket places with proper doors.)
Your BA85 challenge sounds more accurate. Many have thought of it and failed! ;) Unlike Mangera I have no problem going down on clean girls. Which many of the BA85 girls surprisingly are. BA113 is a different matter entirely :D
Another correction, if you will excuse. '4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502' are not 'North Centro' termas. They are 'centro' Centro. The ones referred to in the north of centro are those above Pres.Vargas, a rather different area and much less posh. There's probably only one real high end terma there, though Aquarios and Florida do a good mid-range at the better times. For those who have looked round here but aren't familiar with the geography, it's the area that includes the Leandro Martins 'sweat boxes', Afrodite, and a million rundown businesses but still more respectable than the area further west.
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]In rio where is the safest place to take your computer and use wifi?
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]
Your hotel reception area lounge?
There are some places in the south east part of Centro where I've seen businessmen sit with their laptops. And an area like Botafogo is not bad. But I personally think that guys getting a laptop out in Copa are taking a chance.
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No Centro correction
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think you must be getting some places confused. Carioca 59 is a nice dirty stair. The front door is wood. The doors on the individual places as you walk up are left open during 'business hours' but I'm pretty sure none are glass and there would be no room for doors plural. Your description sounds a bit like Casarao across the road, which can be rather dark inside. I find it hard to imagine anyone locking the swing doors as you go in (past reception, where you pick up a tab and are charged a nominal entrance fee at peak times). Occasionally a girl will give you are hard sell, which doesn't really happen at C.59 (at least in my six or so years of going there). 10 is a lot of girls to cram into any of the openings in C.59 but a more normal number for Casarao. 3R is average for a beer in any of these type of places. There is a place with glass doors a hundred yards or so down the street though I haven't been for a long time and it's more pricey. If you quote the price you paid for the [i]girl[/i] it may be clearer where you actually had fun. (Casarao is slightly more than C.59 and both are cheaper than several upmarket places with proper doors.)
Your BA85 challenge sounds more accurate. Many have thought of it and failed! ;) Unlike Mangera I have no problem going down on clean girls. Which many of the BA85 girls surprisingly are. BA113 is a different matter entirely :D
Another correction, if you will excuse. '4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502' are not 'North Centro' termas. They are 'centro' Centro. The ones referred to in the north of centro are those above Pres.Vargas, a rather different area and much less posh. There's probably only one real high end terma there, though Aquarios and Florida do a good mid-range at the better times. For those who have looked round here but aren't familiar with the geography, it's the area that includes the Leandro Martins 'sweat boxes', Afrodite, and a million rundown businesses but still more respectable than the area further west.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the correction.
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Your Right
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think you must be getting some places confused. Carioca 59 is a nice dirty stair. The front door is wood. The doors on the individual places as you walk up are left open during 'business hours' but I'm pretty sure none are glass and there would be no room for doors plural. Your description sounds a bit like Casarao across the road, which can be rather dark inside. I find it hard to imagine anyone locking the swing doors as you go in (past reception, where you pick up a tab and are charged a nominal entrance fee at peak times). Occasionally a girl will give you are hard sell, which doesn't really happen at C.59 (at least in my six or so years of going there). 10 is a lot of girls to cram into any of the openings in C.59 but a more normal number for Casarao. 3R is average for a beer in any of these type of places. There is a place with glass doors a hundred yards or so down the street though I haven't been for a long time and it's more pricey. If you quote the price you paid for the [i]girl[/i] it may be clearer where you actually had fun. (Casarao is slightly more than C.59 and both are cheaper than several upmarket places with proper doors.)
Your BA85 challenge sounds more accurate. Many have thought of it and failed! ;) Unlike Mangera I have no problem going down on clean girls. Which many of the BA85 girls surprisingly are. BA113 is a different matter entirely :D
Another correction, if you will excuse. '4x4, Termas 65, Cancun, and 502' are not 'North Centro' termas. They are 'centro' Centro. The ones referred to in the north of centro are those above Pres.Vargas, a rather different area and much less posh. There's probably only one real high end terma there, though Aquarios and Florida do a good mid-range at the better times. For those who have looked round here but aren't familiar with the geography, it's the area that includes the Leandro Martins 'sweat boxes', Afrodite, and a million rundown businesses but still more respectable than the area further west.[/QUOTE]
Christopher:
Your right about the location. I actually went to both places. I did do a session at 59 on the 2nd floor. I got a little spoked becuase they had a small alter in the front of the "working" area that I went to. The girl I took was pretty cool. Once she got me in her stall, she started rubing her thumb, indes and middle finger together like "money please". I paid her for the session and for a beer ($18r/15min). When she came back, I opened the beer and asked her if she wanted a sip. She moitioned yes, than took a healthy gulp.
What I remeber most about this girl was that while when where having sex, she started fingering her own ass during sex in sheer delight. And she was really getting off on fingering her own ass! I didn't even try for anal, but I'm sure she is an expert and would have given a good ride; and I'm sure she would have asked for more reais.
Another note about C.59; the women stand in the doors of their offices and watch guys come up and down the stairs more like a amsterdamn type thing.
But I assure you that across the street at C.40 (i just consuted sperto's map for the right location) one of the girls locked/shut the door. I don't know if she was trying to keep it closed to either a) keep the heat out, or b) stop the annoyance of the door swinging, but she did "shut the door" in a motion that looked like she locked it. And your right, its a swinging door, so now that I think about it more, she was just probably trying to keep it from swinging back-and-forth. But when I was there, I really though she was saying " you ain't leaving here till you fuck one of us." LOL!
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[quote=dwilso39]christopher:
your right about the location. i actually went to both places. i did do a session at 59 on the 2nd floor. i got a little spoked becuase they had a small alther in the front of the "working" area that i went to. this was the place that the women stand in the doors and watch men come up and down the stairs.
but i assure you that across the street, one of the girls locked the door. i don't know if she was trying to keep it closed to either a) keep the heat out, or b) stop the annoyance of the door swinging, but she did "shut the door".[/quote]
the little altars are condomble altars usually with catholic figurines. offerings of incense, sweets, ciggies etc all go down well.
interesting about casarao opposite - was it at a quiet time? (pleased we've sorted out the venue - casarao is rua carioca 40.) did you get a nice stall with the 'one in ten?' the rooms for business upstairs - nice ones are at the front with daylight imo. it's funny you getting locked in the bar area. no money normally changes hands there or in the stalls - it all goes on your paper tab. but the place is pretty laid back. i've had some great shags there - well worth the extra if you get a nice girlie and better facilities than c.59 - though the lack of lighting has bugged me too. thanks for the extra details - sounds like you had a great time! :)
in carioca 59 they will often do more than look. sometimes they'll block your way or grind against you. like uru24, you may have to give them a free feel to get past. ;) ;)
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I'm in Rio
Any other who like to go mongering.
male 53 looking for the usual fun but would feel more safe with company.
First time in Rio for me.
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Today is Valentines Day in Brazil
Feliz Dia dos Namarados para você!
There is a lot of lonely garotas in Rio right now with lonely and heavy hearts. This is a perfect time to be there mongering.
Am I wrong?
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Last time I was in Rio, I had this crazy idea of doing a "game of death" style fuk-a-thon in BA 85 - like the Bruce Lee move when he has to fight differnet opponets on every level of the pagoda.
My plan was to stop on EVERY floor and fuck a girl in the same day, on one visit. I did do girls on the 4th and 3rd floor, but was out of bullets after that. I left in defeat vowing to take my reveange next time!
Next time I'm there, I'm going to take some buddies with me and make a wager of who can surive fucking on all 4 floor in one visit. Game of Death Rio style is what I'll call it.
If anyone else wants to take the challege, be my guest; and report back and tell us how you did![/QUOTE]
BA 85 is my favorite for now. I will take up the challenge when I am there in two days. I might wait until Wed. or Thursday of next week to do it, that way I am over my jet lag.
I tried the BA marathon but only got to 3 floors. The heat on the second and top floor usually makes these the too toughest to get the deed done.
Plus, you have to leave the Copa girls alone the previous night.
For some reason I am really excited about this trip, though I was there in April.
TJ
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4 x 4
Quick update on prices at 4 x 4
40R entrance.....waived if you take a garota in cabina before 5 pm
190R 40 minutes ( not too sure, becuase I took the hour option )
210R for 1 hr
Skol 8R
Red Bull 16R
Was chatting a bit with the gerente( son of owner as well ), and I asked him if he had neck pain. He was wondering why I would ask. Being that he is usually sitting up by the front desk, he sees all of the garotas constantly walking by, checking in, etc. Every once in a while he will slap one in the ass as she walks by. After a couple of minutes he came by, punched me on the left shoulder, and leaned in and said, while laughing....I already got so used to it, you will too.
I usually go 4 x 4 once per trip, and it never seizes to amaze me how well structured this particular buss. is. I like to sit by the front desk for a while, observe, and listen to conversations between the owner and staff. Also, it gives me a much better look at the garotas as they walk by.
One final observation....what the hell is the deal with wearing a baseball cap backwards and/or a headband while wearing a robe in the boite? For goodness sake, I like the accessories as well, but not while wearing a robe in a termas. Freedom of expression is wonderful, but have some common sense. Laters!
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[QUOTE=Mangera]One final observation....what the hell is the deal with wearing a baseball cap backwards and/or a headband while wearing a robe in the boite? For goodness sake, I like the accessories as well, but not while wearing a robe in a termas. Freedom of expression is wonderful, but have some common sense. Laters![/QUOTE]
OK, I admit that I once wore a headband in 4x4 ... but only so that Christopherd could identify me (we had never met before).
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Tip for me?
During one of my trips to Rio last year, a garota at 4x4 actually asked me to give her a tip after our 1hr session. I replied that I didn't have spare dough in my robe. To which she replied that she could follow me to the locker room and I could give her money from my wallet.
Obviously I shot down that idea and told her that tipping extra for sessions are not the way things are done in Brazil, nor Rio, nor 4x4 for that matter. This entire conversation was in Portuguese so she understood precisely what my position was. She got pouty and rather whiny, but I held firm. I've seen her at 4x4 a few times this year and she tries to get me to go with her again - but after that little incident I steer clear of her. Too bad, since she is just my type ( a thin morena with a very pretty face, straight black hair, and a nice little butt). She doesn't seem to get many clients and I think that may be a reason why (she was just average in the "cama" as well . It's a shame because if she would change her attitude a bit she would likely be a very popular GDP.
Unfortunately I've forgotten her name, but she was still working at 4x4 as of April.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Your hotel reception area lounge?
There are some places in the south east part of Centro where I've seen businessmen sit with their laptops. And an area like Botafogo is not bad. But I personally think that guys getting a laptop out in Copa are taking a chance.[/QUOTE]Thanks but Im not staying in a hotel, booked an Apt. in leme for a month, do you guys know of any public places specifically?
vaughnyb
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[QUOTE=Euro100]OK, I admit that I once wore a headband in 4x4 ... but only so that Christopherd could identify me (we had never met before).[/QUOTE]I've seen guys wearing jeans and street shoes at 4x4. I guess they mistook 4x4 for 502. But damn, look around and get a hint!
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Lol
[QUOTE=Euro100]OK, I admit that I once wore a headband in 4x4 ... but only so that Christopherd could identify me (we had never met before).[/QUOTE]
Thats funny stuff.
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Qft
[QUOTE=Mangera]One final observation....what the hell is the deal with wearing a baseball cap backwards and/or a headband while wearing a robe in the boite? For goodness sake, I like the accessories as well, but not while wearing a robe in a termas. Freedom of expression is wonderful, but have some common sense. Laters![/QUOTE]
I made a similar comment here in my enormous 2-part post after my trip in May. Unfortunately it seems to have sunk behind several pages of squabbling about Ingrid's income and other subjects :(
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=887610&postcount=1276[/url]
Here's part II as well if you're bored
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=887614&postcount=1277[/url]
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Want to search for ZONA outside Rio
I'm not sure where to post this, as I know there are no zona in Rio, but most people read this section so I make my try...
I'm on my way to Macae and Vitoria. I guess these places have a zona where the girls are gathered.
I know this from trips in northern Mexico and haev heard it is the same in Brasil except Rio and Sao Paulo.
Anyone who know?
Anyone who have been there?
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Every termas has its own culture
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]I made a similar comment here in my enormous 2-part post after my trip in May. Unfortunately it seems to have sunk behind several pages of squabbling about Ingrid's income and other subjects :(
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=887610&postcount=1276[/url]
Here's part II as well if you're bored
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=887614&postcount=1277[/url][/QUOTE]
From Bubba Boy's Rio Guide, Feb. 2007:
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]The girls can be described best as having a "Gangsta" look with plenty of Ink. It is set up primarily for the locals, hence the predominant shape is big asses, but all shapes and sizes are present, and many touristas do go there.[/QUOTE]
Well, if 4 x 4 has a large contingent of Gangsta Girls, it only makes sense that Gangsta Guys will be there as well.
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]From Bubba Boy's Rio Guide, Feb. 2007:
Well, if 4 x 4 has a large contingent of Gangsta Girls, it only makes sense that Gangsta Guys will be there as well.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure how many "Gangsta" guys are at 4x4, but I know that a lot of off-duty police come there to party.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]I am not sure how many "Gangsta" guys are at 4x4, but I know that a lot of off-duty police come there to party.[/QUOTE]
And the difference between these two groups would be...? :D
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]1st off why are men looking at other men in termas? Do you want to fuck them in the ass? Seriously if you are looking at men in a terma what they doing you are femanine with male estrogen. 3 main inducers of male estrogen is smoking, drinking and eating animals products.[/QUOTE]If it wasn't shared on the board I wouldn't know that the fools wih they're robes stripped to the waste are locals who can only cop feels and not session.
Since there are off-duty cops in termas, 4x4, and probably other Rio undesireables, you better make sure that the garota you're hitting on is not anothers, especially when the many locals cannot afford seesions as us foreigners. It's best to observe behavior. And if something looks odd, why not share it. That's what ISG is about, sharing observations and experiences.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Its just funny how I always hear these people whining about gansters going to rio but they never complain these corporate thugs who have looted the u.s treasury who always come to rio. Bottom line is no real gansters come to rio because real gansters keep their business to themsleves and they dont advertise themselves like these wanna be thugs and ganstas.[/QUOTE]Good point.
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]Thanks but Im not staying in a hotel, booked an Apt. in leme for a month, do you guys know of any public places specifically?
vaughnyb[/QUOTE]
Since you will be in Leme, MABs sounds like the best place to me.
RR
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Maybe Your Apartment
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]Thanks but Im not staying in a hotel, booked an Apt. in leme for a month, do you guys know of any public places specifically?
vaughnyb[/QUOTE]
If you have a beachfront apartment in Leme, you might be able to receive internet service in your apartment. I know that there is free wifi on Avenida Atlantica (i.e. I have seen several people use their laptops in Mabs in order to connect to the internet). Accordingly, if people can connect at Mabs, maybe you can connect in your apartment.
Also, there are other outdoor restaurants in Leme on Avenida Atlantica where you might be able to connect to the internet. The use of one of these restaurants would be safer than using your computer at Mabs.
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4 x 4 Whiskeria
Does anyone know if you still have to pay a 40R fee and any fee whatsoever if just walking into the bar from the street for a drink?
Also, if you decide to go with a girl from the bar, then do you pay the 40R entrance fee? Thank you.
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Hells Angels
The Hells Angels seem to have taken over Rio for the time being, specifically the Othon Palace and MP. Very funny to see the "gangstas" sauntering up to MP then walking swiftly by when they see their favorite haunt taken over by middle aged men in fancy dress. It has left the girls in total confusion, they have no idea what to do with white men with more tattoos than them
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Does anyone know if you still have to pay a 40R fee and any fee whatsoever if just walking into the bar from the street for a drink?
Also, if you decide to go with a girl from the bar, then do you pay the 40R entrance fee? Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Mangera,
From what I remember the entrance fee in the whiskeria is 20R, you don't pay anything more if you decide to go up with a girl....
RL
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4x4
[QUOTE=Rio Lover #2]Mangera,
From what I remember the entrance fee in the whiskeria is 20R, you don't pay anything more if you decide to go up with a girl....
RL[/QUOTE]
That is correct. R20 entrance to wiskeria. If you take a girl up, you only pay the room and girl fees. R190 40 minutes , R210 for an hour, .....
The prices went up R10.
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Hells Angels
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]The Hells Angels seem to have taken over Rio for the time being, specifically the Othon Palace and MP. Very funny to see the "gangstas" sauntering up to MP then walking swiftly by when they see their favorite haunt taken over by middle aged men in fancy dress. It has left the girls in total confusion, they have no idea what to do with white men with more tattoos than them[/QUOTE]Wow. They were in town exactly 5 years ago. They were the nicest people. Most of the ones I met were in town with their wives. Conveniently their vests said where they were from so I knew which ones spoke English.
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Thank you.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]That is correct. R20 entrance to wiskeria. If you take a girl up, you only pay the room and girl fees. R190 40 minutes , R210 for an hour, .....
The prices went up R10.[/QUOTE]
Thank you Rio lover #2and Pipe layer99. Much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Quick update on prices at 4 x 4
40R entrance.....waived if you take a garota in cabina before 5 pm
190R 40 minutes ( not too sure, becuase I took the hour option )
210R for 1 hr
Skol 8R
Red Bull 16R
Was chatting a bit with the gerente( son of owner as well ), and I asked him if he had neck pain. He was wondering why I would ask. Being that he is usually sitting up by the front desk, he sees all of the garotas constantly walking by, checking in, etc. Every once in a while he will slap one in the ass as she walks by. After a couple of minutes he came by, punched me on the left shoulder, and leaned in and said, while laughing....I already got so used to it, you will too.
I usually go 4 x 4 once per trip, and it never seizes to amaze me how well structured this particular buss. is. I like to sit by the front desk for a while, observe, and listen to conversations between the owner and staff. Also, it gives me a much better look at the garotas as they walk by.
One final observation....what the hell is the deal with wearing a baseball cap backwards and/or a headband while wearing a robe in the boite? For goodness sake, I like the accessories as well, but not while wearing a robe in a termas. Freedom of expression is wonderful, but have some common sense. Laters![/QUOTE]Fun stuf.
As the matter a fact, I did a hair transplant in Rio back in '03 and 4x4 was my favorite place, so I had to cover my head with something. I wore a bandana at the time, but the administration of 4x4 did not allow me to wore it on the premises... I gues the rules changed as more gringos pouring in to Rio's once - a locals mostly known terma.
Peace !
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Thank you Rio lover #2and Pipe layer99. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Have fun...
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Termas question
I was in a termas recently and they tried to charge me R$60 entrance fee, $230 per hour per girl x 2 (dupla), AND a separate room charge. I got the separate room fee waived. I always experienced that the room fees were built into the girls fees. And the final bill was always entrance fee (if not waived for a promotion or early entrance), girl/room fee and drinks.
In fact, with a dupla (2 x the girls fees) they are making more on the room. But the room was bigger and nicer. Has anyone else experienced this? Are they trying to raise rates to include this? Or were they trying to rip me off. Or making an "honest mistake"?
The manager also waived the entrance fee when I went down to settle because I think he knew I was not pleased.
First time I've been in a termas in about 8 months. I have not read any postings here about such a practice.
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[QUOTE=Abzsafado]The Hells Angels seem to have taken over Rio for the time being, specifically the Othon Palace and MP. Very funny to see the "gangstas" sauntering up to MP then walking swiftly by when they see their favorite haunt taken over by middle aged men in fancy dress. It has left the girls in total confusion, they have no idea what to do with white men with more tattoos than them[/QUOTE]
I am down here, too. There were about 30 of them on my plane coming down. Yeah, the Angels seem a bit confused an unsure of what to do. I have seen a couple talking to women but not many.
I saw one taking a girl up into an apartment on Miguel Lemos behind MP.
The Angels look a bit out of place in Copa right now.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]I was in a termas recently and they tried to charge me R$60 entrance fee, $230 per hour per girl x 2 (dupla), AND a separate room charge. I got the separate room fee waived. I always experienced that the room fees were built into the girls fees. And the final bill was always entrance fee (if not waived for a promotion or early entrance), girl/room fee and drinks.
In fact, with a dupla (2 x the girls fees) they are making more on the room. But the room was bigger and nicer. Has anyone else experienced this? Are they trying to raise rates to include this? Or were they trying to rip me off. Or making an "honest mistake"?
The manager also waived the entrance fee when I went down to settle because I think he knew I was not pleased.
First time I've been in a termas in about 8 months. I have not read any postings here about such a practice.[/QUOTE]
It varies from termas to termas, but I would say that the majority charge separately for the room and for the girl. In most of them, if you do a dupla they will charge you only once for the room and separately for each girl. The notable exception is L'uomo, which will charge you twice for the room. NEVER do a dupla at L'uomo. In fact, if there are other termas that engage in this nefarious practice, it would be good for all of us to be informed.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Why are they there? Is there some kind of biker convention going on?[/QUOTE]
There is a biker convention. A big one. But I am here just to relax.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]It varies from termas to termas, but I would say that the majority charge separately for the room and for the girl. In most of them, if you do a dupla they will charge you only once for the room and separately for each girl. The notable exception is L'uomo, which will charge you twice for the room. NEVER do a dupla at L'uomo. In fact, if there are other termas that engage in this nefarious practice, it would be good for all of us to be informed.
L[/QUOTE]
It's not a "nefarious practice," it is a Brazilian practice. As far as I know, most of them do it. 4x4 certainly does. They quote you a flat price, "R$190" and give the girl about 2/3 of that. It doesn't mean you're getting fucked over, it means the house is in business to make money.
"Room fee" is a euphemism. It's the money the house makes when a girl fucks. If a girl goes to a room, if she's getting paid, the house wants to get their cut. They call it a "room fee" because they can't call it a "pimp fee." Termas are a borderline activity. (Hint: The money paid to the authorities is probably not called a "bribe" either...) Termas means, roughly, "bathhouse," not "w*orehouse." Hookers are called "attendants" and the house cut is called the "room fee." Get used to it. It doesn't have to do with the room, it has to do with the pussy.
By all means, feel free to boycott all termas which engage in this "nefarious practice." They likely won't miss you, and neither will the guys who're not worried about squeezing a nickel til the buffalo shits. The American, "I'm the customer and I'll kick my heels til I get my way" attitude doesn't usually play down here.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]There is a biker convention. A big one. But I am here just to relax.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Could you please enlighten this to me? I haven't heard anything.
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separate room charge
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I was in a termas recently and they tried to charge me R$60 entrance fee, $230 per hour per girl x 2 (dupla), AND a separate room charge. I got the separate room fee waived. I always experienced that the room fees were built into the girls fees. And the final bill was always entrance fee (if not waived for a promotion or early entrance), girl/room fee and drinks.
In fact, with a dupla (2 x the girls fees) they are making more on the room. But the room was bigger and nicer. Has anyone else experienced this? Are they trying to raise rates to include this? Or were they trying to rip me off. Or making an "honest mistake"?
The manager also waived the entrance fee when I went down to settle because I think he knew I was not pleased.
First time I've been in a termas in about 8 months. I have not read any postings here about such a practice.[/QUOTE]I am confused. Did the R$230 include the room charge? If not, how much was this charge? What termas was this at? Being less vague will help your questions be answered.
Some termas itemize the girl and room fee (Luomo, Monter Carlo). Some only show the total (4x4). Notably Monte Carlo only charges the room fee once for a dupla even though it is a bigger room. The last time I did a dupla there a few years ago 65 only charged the room fee once as well.
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Whether you agree or not......
[QUOTE=Jesuscola]It's not a "nefarious practice," it is a Brazilian practice. As far as I know, most of them do it. 4x4 certainly does. They quote you a flat price, "R$190" and give the girl about 2/3 of that. It doesn't mean you're getting fucked over, it means the house is in business to make money.
"Room fee" is a euphemism. It's the money the house makes when a girl fucks. If a girl goes to a room, if she's getting paid, the house wants to get their cut. They call it a "room fee" because they can't call it a "pimp fee." Termas are a borderline activity. (Hint: The money paid to the authorities is probably not called a "bribe" either...) Termas means, roughly, "bathhouse," not "w*orehouse." Hookers are called "attendants" and the house cut is called the "room fee." Get used to it. It doesn't have to do with the room, it has to do with the pussy.
By all means, feel free to boycott all termas which engage in this "nefarious practice." They likely won't miss you, and neither will the guys who're not worried about squeezing a nickel til the buffalo shits. The American, "I'm the customer and I'll kick my heels til I get my way" attitude doesn't usually play down here.[/QUOTE]
Those are the facts. Good breakdown!
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Sure did.
[QUOTE=Rio Lover #2]Have fun...[/QUOTE]
It was a wonderful happy hour scene. I tell you, the whiskeria scenario is a pretty darn good alternative. Its 20R entrance.
I ordered 3 beers and a hard drink for myself and a couple of other ladies. Plus 20R entrance fee, total damage was 51R. Thats about 26US right now. Are you kidding me, I pay that much back home for valet parking and a drink.
For 51R, I had drinks for myself and a couple of other smoking hot garotas, paid for entrance, was making out and feeling another one up. Plus, I accomplished my objective....which was to get a number from a garota I met last week upstairs and set up a possible side meeting this saturday comming up. Plus, I did have the option of taking a garota to the cabina.
I did not partake, cause I had already been to BA 21. I did spread some of my DNA there.
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BA 21 Termas
Its a lower scale Termas of a 4x4 set up. Not even close as far as talent when comparing to 4x4 and Termas 65.
But I will say this, if patient, you can find a winner. Its a clean establishment and the garota I was with gave very good service. She just started last week, and is a transfer fom Termas 65.
Typical structure as the Highend termas, but the quality is not the same, but it is worth a visit just to check. If you like them thick and super thick, you will find some good material.
Yes, you wear a robe, you get the key attched to the rubber bracelet and so forth. You pay at the end. This place had the same feel as Termas 502
160R for 1hr
120R for 40 minutes
They have a promotion for 30 minutes, which you get 2 garotas for I think it was 140R.
Open from 3pm to midnight. Take your own rubeers, they charge 3R per. Laters!
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]The money paid to the authorities is probably not called a "bribe" either...[/QUOTE]
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D spot on!
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Dunda Massage-
[QUOTE=Venice69]Hi All,
I've been in these casas (June 2009):
Rio Branco 156 Apt 3320 with Carol
Rio Branco 156 Apt 2622 with Amanda
Rio Branco 181 Apt 2114 with Gisele
I payed the room per 40 minutes or 1 hour plus anal service: "O anal esta' fora por 30-50 R$"
--> 85R$/40' or 100R$/1h plus 50/anal service
--> total 150 R$ 1h completa
Do you think is normal to pay anal service like extra service?
The price payed is correct?
Moreover, You choose the girl that You can see just 10 or 15 seconds, Is this correct? Is possible to see all the girls together, to compare and choose the best?
Please, share your experiences
Thanks ;-)[/QUOTE]
The 85R is correct for 40 min but giving in to 50R was un called for. I have been there a lot of times and never give any extra for anal. One time I was asked when a friend of mine took 2 girls at one time for a festiva for an hour which lasted for 1 1/2 hours and we gave 25R extra to be switching back and forth. One girl asked for 15R for anal and I said no.
I have had anal with Caroll and about 4 others there in November and again in March. I will be there next week Friday after work and I will not pay extra for anal. They must have charged you that because you are not Brazilian... Guys if we continue to let them they will continue to charge extra...
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]It's not a "nefarious practice," it is a Brazilian practice. As far as I know, most of them do it.[/QUOTE]
Are the two mutually exclusive? Because something is Brazilian, does that mean it can't be nefarious. The key phrase in your post is "as far as I know," which apparently isn't very much. I have done duplas at Solarium and Monte Carlo and was not charged double for the room, only for two girls.
[QUOTE=Jesuscola]By all means, feel free to boycott all termas which engage in this "nefarious practice." They likely won't miss you, and neither will the guys who're not worried about squeezing a nickel til the buffalo shits. The American, "I'm the customer and I'll kick my heels til I get my way" attitude doesn't usually play down here.[/QUOTE]
Why the hostility, may I ask? Your post just oozes with it. I was just expressing my opinion, based on the facts as I saw them. Can't we have a discussion, even if it involves a disagreement, and still remain civil? :rolleyes: Go figure.
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Shedding some light on Jesuscola's hostility
Since my previous post below, I have been informed by a reliable source that Jesuscola gets paid $20 for each customer that he brings to L'uomo. He also gets paid by 4x4 for bringing customers there. So no wonder that he is so vociferous in rebutting criticisms of L'uomo (which, ironically, is my favorite termas; I just don't do duplas there). Also no wonder that he defends the same practice at 4x4, even though that termas was never mentioned.
So, Jesuscola, why don't you do the honorable thing and disclose that you have a conflict of interest whenever there is a criticism of L'uomo or 4x4? And, going one step further, why don't you act like a man and reveal to the users of this forum what you really are, namely a pimp and a shill for these two termas?
What a noble way to make a living! :rolleyes:
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Spot on
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Are the two mutually exclusive? Because something is Brazilian, does that mean it can't be nefarious. The key phrase in your post is "as far as I know, " which apparently isn't very much. I have done duplas at Solarium and Monte Carlo and was not charged double for the room, only for two girls.
Why the hostility, may I ask? Your post just oozes with it. I was just expressing my opinion, based on the facts as I saw them. Can't we have a discussion, even if it involves a disagreement, and still remain civil? Go figure.[/QUOTE] you are wright to ask because I would had asked the same question myself. Some people just take things to personal. Next time ask sperto or Mr. International they are very well informed on what goes on in Brazil. They haved given me information that has been golden. Cara ignorante. Like brazilians would say.
Good hunting
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[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]you are wright to ask because I would had asked the same question myself. Some people just take things to personal. Next time ask sperto or Mr. International they are very well informed on what goes on in Brazil. They haved given me information that has been golden. Cara ignorante. Like brazilians would say.
Good hunting[/QUOTE]Thanks Lorenzo and Hitman. Reading it now - I could have written my previous post better. It does make me look like a "whiny american" trying to get my way. Wasn't that way at all, manager was really great and appreciated the way I treat the ladies (buying drinks and food and having a little party.) He offered up a free entrance fee because I had a few great visits there and wanted to "comp me" an entrance fee. My question was about a new billing practice that I had not encountered before. I am more than willing to pay for my fun. I have my answers now. Thanks.
This board is great and the senior members here have provided invaluable information. I always try to go through the posts here first to answer my questions as there is so much great info. For instance I used Sperto's great Centro casa and VM maps and ratings guides to explore these areas for the first time. Had a great couple of days with complete confidence because of this invaluable info. I used the Bwana Dik and Bubba's report (and other posts here) to book guest friendly hotels, check out new restaurants, termas, agencies and love motels. And I have been encouraged to explore the culture, music and beauty of Brazil. I am learning Porto and can entertain a garota overnight and keep her interest between fucks. You guys have been so great in providing info. Now I have my feet under me and will contribute going forward. This site is like getting a Master degree in Mongering!
To all you new members: I encourage you to take the time to go through the posts here, read the reports and download/print out the reports. These guys have given you a true blueprint to having a great time and understanding the brazilian way.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Since my previous post below, I have been informed by a reliable source that Jesuscola gets paid $20 for each customer that he brings to L'uomo. He also gets paid by 4x4 for bringing customers there. So no wonder that he is so vociferous in rebutting criticisms of L'uomo (which, ironically, is my favorite termas; I just don't do duplas there). Also no wonder that he defends the same practice at 4x4, even though that termas was never mentioned.
So, Jesuscola, why don't you do the honorable thing and disclose that you have a conflict of interest whenever there is a criticism of L'uomo or 4x4? And, going one step further, why don't you act like a man and reveal to the users of this forum what you really are, namely a pimp and a shill for these two termas?
What a noble way to make a living! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
LMAO. I do get commissions from L'uomo. I do NOT get commissions from 4x4. My opinion of a termas is not dependent on whether I get paid commission by them or not, and anyone who doesn't know that about me doesn't know me very well at all. You might want to double check your sources. This has nothing to do with my "hostility," or with my post. I DO think that some people live their lives as though they're getting ripped off constantly, and that sort of bitter attitude does irk me. I personally get a little tired of this particular argument, that you're getting ripped off if you get charged twice for a "room," for the reasons I've already noted. If what was oozing from my post could be called "hostility," it was toward those ideas and attitudes, not toward any person.
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]LMAO. I do get commissions from L'uomo. I do NOT get commissions from 4x4. My opinion of a termas is not dependent on whether I get paid commission by them or not, and anyone who doesn't know that about me doesn't know me very well at all. You might want to double check your sources. This has nothing to do with my "hostility," or with my post. I DO think that some people live their lives as though they're getting ripped off constantly, and that sort of bitter attitude does irk me. I personally get a little tired of this particular argument, that you're getting ripped off if you get charged twice for a "room," for the reasons I've already noted. If what was oozing from my post could be called "hostility," it was toward those ideas and attitudes, not toward any person.[/QUOTE]Hey BoBo,
I never said I got charged twice for a room. I simply said that I never encountered this type of pricing. Paying a seperate room charge from the girl's fees. Before. I have not been to many termas and I had a legitimate question. Like I said, I could have written my post better and the manager was actually very cool and offered the free entrance to me (without my asking for it) which led me to believe that the charge was in error. I have no problem paying for my fun. I am not bitter. In fact I have a great time relaxing in Brazil and have made some great friends with a number of termas girls who come and spend the night with me. But, hey, feel free to quickly assess that I am a "nasty American" from my one paragraph, and I'll feel free to quickly assess that you have a conflict of interest and have nothing important to contribute here. Go about your pimping.
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WHats a good VALUE "hotel" or bargain Hotel to go to in Rio (Brazil)...
A) I would like it to be relatively inexpensive
B) Have own bathroom
C) Near all the ACTION Smile like the help disco Smile
D) No or little chica fee
E) Has a safe
F) Clean
Please "NO apartments" NOT interested!!!!!
P.S. *it would also be lovely if the hotel had free phone, computer, pool and shuttle bus service from the airport BUT its not neccessary!
REmember I am looking for the a value hotel, the best hotel for the dollar Smile.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I am down here, too. There were about 30 of them on my plane coming down. Yeah, the Angels seem a bit confused an unsure of what to do. I have seen a couple talking to women but not many.
I saw one taking a girl up into an apartment on Miguel Lemos behind MP.
The Angels look a bit out of place in Copa right now.
TJ[/QUOTE]
They have a convention in Rio every year.
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[QUOTE=MrBoring37]A) I would like it to be relatively inexpensive
B) Have own bathroom
C) Near all the ACTION Smile like the help disco Smile
D) No or little chica fee
E) Has a safe
F) Clean
Please "NO apartments" NOT interested!!!!!
P.S. *it would also be lovely if the hotel had free phone, computer, pool and shuttle bus service from the airport BUT its not neccessary!
REmember I am looking for the a value hotel, the best hotel for the dollar Smile.[/QUOTE]The Bubba Boy Report, the Bwana Dik report and the Apartments and Hotel thread have all the information you need.
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Need Help
Can anyone point me to a thread about Niteroi? I tried using the search engine but it is TERRIBLE! I remember reading a couple of post about it but can't find them now.
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Niteroi
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Can anyone point me to a thread about Niteroi? I tried using the search engine but it is TERRIBLE! I remember reading a couple of post about it but can't find them now.[/QUOTE]
There is no specific Thread on Niteroi but a search should point you to 123 reports referencing Niteroi.
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Cheap Transportation to Copacabana
Does anyone know how to find the R$6 bus once you arrive at Galeão? When I searched for this information, I found mention of one bus company that will take you to Copacabana for R$12 ([url]http://www.shuttlerio.com.br/en/[/url].) Lastly, is it possible to get on the Shuttle Rio bus once I arrive or must I make reservations in advance?
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]Does anyone know how to find the R$6 bus once you arrive at Galeão? When I searched for this information, I found mention of one bus company that will take you to Copacabana for R$12 ([url]http://www.shuttlerio.com.br/en/[/url].) Lastly, is it possible to get on the Shuttle Rio bus once I arrive or must I make reservations in advance?[/QUOTE]
I have not taken the Real bus for years but here is some info.
[url]http://www.couchsurfing.org/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro#HOW_TO_GET_FROM_THE_INTERNATIONAL_AIRPORT[/url]
TJ
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Could you please enlighten this to me? I haven't heard anything.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I missed this post. I assume by now you have heard the Hells Angels are in town. The past week they have been very present throughout Copacabana, especially in the Meia Pataca area.
TJ
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Niteroi
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Can anyone point me to a thread about Niteroi? I tried using the search engine but it is TERRIBLE! I remember reading a couple of post about it but can't find them now.[/QUOTE]
Whats up Cho? You looking to go Termas Excentric or???
A search will yield some basic in about Niteroi. I believe Chirstopherd posted some info on it awhile back.
I was just there this month and it was not worth the trip. Getting there was fine by taking the train to Centro, then walking past 4x4 an extra 10 min, and taking the ferry across. The termas was very small (like 502), cost R25 to go in which included 4 beers. I tried to negotiate (for about 5 minutes) the price and the beer to no avail. I just wanted to pay as I go with the beer vs having 4 beers for R25. My wingman and I were allowed to go in have a look. Since we were there, we decided to pay the entrance and have a few cold ones. It was very loud and the music -- I would compare it to Brazilian country music. Very limited selection of about 10-12 girls. Low quality as far as looks. I only saw 1 that I really considered doing. When I went over to have a word with her (she was dancing alone), she spoke to me, but told me she would be back in about 30 min. Turns out she actually with the guy near by at the next table. Since she was dancing alone I did not know. They were just finishing up their drinks before going up.
We grabbed our last beers and left with the beers in hand. We already paid the R25 upfront. So basically we paid R6.25 per beer.
Then it was back to the ferry, metro to Copa, and on to TA then Help. Had it been earlier we would have simply stopped at 4x4 to drop off the swimmers.
Later, PL99
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Whats up Cho? You looking to go Termas Excentric or???
A search will yield some basic in about Niteroi. I believe Chirstopherd posted some info on it awhile back.
I was just there this month and it was not worth the trip. Getting there was fine by taking the train to Centro, then walking past 4x4 an extra 10 min, and taking the ferry across. The termas was very small (like 502), cost R25 to go in which included 4 beers. I tried to negotiate (for about 5 minutes) the price and the beer to no avail. I just wanted to pay as I go with the beer vs having 4 beers for R25. My wingman and I were allowed to go in have a look. Since we were there, we decided to pay the entrance and have a few cold ones. It was very loud and the music -- I would compare it to Brazilian country music. Very limited selection of about 10-12 girls. Low quality as far as looks. I only saw 1 that I really considered doing. When I went over to have a word with her (she was dancing alone), she spoke to me, but told me she would be back in about 30 min. Turns out she actually with the guy near by at the next table. Since she was dancing alone I did not know. They were just finishing up their drinks before going up.
We grabbed our last beers and left with the beers in hand. We already paid the R25 upfront. So basically we paid R6.25 per beer.
Then it was back to the ferry, metro to Copa, and on to TA then Help. Had it been earlier we would have simply stopped at 4x4 to drop off the swimmers.
Later, PL99[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info Pipelayer. I remember reading a couple of threads about it, and just wanted to check it out. I think that there's another terma there but I can't remember the name. Besides, I know a garota from there with a bunda just the way I like them! BIG!
Poucolouco,
I tried the search engine but it sucks! You still have to search through all the threads to find what you are looking for.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637] I tried the search engine but it sucks! You still have to search through all the threads to find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Did you pick 'Reports' instead of 'Threads' in the 'Show Search Results' option?
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]
Poucolouco,
I tried the search engine but it sucks! You still have to search through all the threads to find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
You didn't specify what you were looking for in Niteroi. The Search function will give you a first level retrieval of posts with "Niteroi." If you then use the EDIT and FIND functions of your brouser, you can do a second level search of all the Niteroi posts. The search function on WSG may not be up to your standards but if you seriously want to find something you need to take the initiative. Saying it sucks won't find your answers.
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Shuttle Rio
[QUOTE=Monger Man]Does anyone know how to find the R$6 bus once you arrive at Galeão? When I searched for this information, I found mention of one bus company that will take you to Copacabana for R$12 ([url]http://www.shuttlerio.com.br/en/[/url].) Lastly, is it possible to get on the Shuttle Rio bus once I arrive or must I make reservations in advance?[/QUOTE]
From International Arrivals:
For the R$7 bus you go straight out of the door to outside after you exit customs. The bus stop/podium will be immediately to your right.
Thanks to Lorenzo I did end up taking the shuttlerio last time from and to the airport. You must make reservations online at least a couple of days before. When you make the reservations you will choose which of several drop off/pick-up points you prefer. I chose the Othon Palace although the driver did end up dropping at Nossa Senhora and Miguel Lemos at my request. The airport pick up point is in front of the Riotur information booth. To get there you come out of the customs hall into the main airport area and turn right. You go all the way down just before the building dead ends you will see the booth on the left. Just stand around that way and the driver will come in to get you. I was outside getting my shoes shined and they actually called me on my Rio cell because I was not at the designated spot. So they are punctual.
You pay your money to the driver once you get in the van and I think you have to put your name on the paper that he has on his clipboard. I was really happy that I took the shuttle on the way back to the airport because as soon as we drove off it started pouring raining. Otherwise I would have been at the bus stop soaked. The last shuttle does leave Copa at 7:30pm. Coming and going there was only me and one other person. I think the van holds 10 people. I think there were 3 rows of 3 plus shotgun. The van was brand new with air conditioning. This will be my preferred method of airport transportation from now on.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]You didn't specify what you were looking for in Niteroi. The Search function will give you a first level retrieval of posts with "Niteroi." If you then use the EDIT and FIND functions of your brouser, you can do a second level search of all the Niteroi posts. The search function on WSG may not be up to your standards but if you seriously want to find something you need to take the initiative. Saying it sucks won't find your answers.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip but still couldn't find them.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]I was in a termas recently and they tried to charge me R$60 entrance fee, $230 per hour per girl x 2 (dupla), AND a separate room charge. I got the separate room fee waived. I always experienced that the room fees were built into the girls fees. And the final bill was always entrance fee (if not waived for a promotion or early entrance), girl/room fee and drinks.
In fact, with a dupla (2 x the girls fees) they are making more on the room. But the room was bigger and nicer. Has anyone else experienced this? Are they trying to raise rates to include this? Or were they trying to rip me off. Or making an "honest mistake"?
The manager also waived the entrance fee when I went down to settle because I think he knew I was not pleased.
First time I've been in a termas in about 8 months. I have not read any postings here about such a practice.[/QUOTE]
As reported elsewhere L'Uomo has done this for a long time. Newcomers to MC usually have the rules of the house spelt out to them on entry. I cannot recall them verbatim but I think it is R$40 for a standard room for 40 minutes. They used to insist that the girls fees were paid in cash, the room, entry and bar bill could be paid with a credit card. However they have changed this to allow the whole bill to be paid by card with an additional fee. I can't recall what the fee is, I always pay cash. They do not charge two room fees for two girls.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the info Pipelayer. I remember reading a couple of threads about it, and just wanted to check it out. I think that there's another terma there but I can't remember the name. Besides, I know a garota from there with a bunda just the way I like them! BIG!
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I've never been to Rio, but planning a trip now. As part of my research I come across a lot of info, so I thought these might be helpful (not sure about the accuracy or anything....):
Só Filé e Cia
R. Gen. Andrade Neves, 142 - Ingá, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24210-000, (21) 2620-0630
1 Hour: R$100
Room Fee: R$20
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Termas no Centro de Niterói
Av. Ernani do Amaral Peixoto, 357 - Centro, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24020-075
30 Minutes: R$50
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Termas Excentric
R. da Conceição, 132 - Morro do Estado, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24020-082, (21) 2722-3759/2620-7547
Hours: Mon-Fri 18:00-???
Entrance Fee: R$20
30 Minutes: R$90
1 Hour: R$130
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Sorry, I missed this post. I assume by now you have heard the Hells Angels are in town. The past week they have been very present throughout Copacabana, especially in the Meia Pataca area.
TJ[/QUOTE]
I know about angels, but that wasn't my question. Please do tell me about the biker convention. As I'm living in Rio and I'm a biker and I haven't heard about it.
I would be really happy to know where is that convention.
Hells Angels are having somekind of get together again, but.....
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Mr Enternational and TJ Fannatic,
Thanks for your replies and your detailed information! I knew that these were the better options, but I didn’t know all the details of utilizing them.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]I know about angels, but that wasn't my question. Please do tell me about the biker convention. As I'm living in Rio and I'm a biker and I haven't heard about it.
I would be really happy to know where is that convention.
Hells Angels are having somekind of get together again, but.....[/QUOTE]
Perkele, try the HAMC web page in rio. They should know if a visiting club is in town.
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[QUOTE=Abzsafado]The Hells Angels seem to have taken over Rio for the time being, specifically the Othon Palace and MP. Very funny to see the "gangstas" sauntering up to MP then walking swiftly by when they see their favorite haunt taken over by middle aged men in fancy dress. It has left the girls in total confusion, they have no idea what to do with white men with more tattoos than them[/QUOTE]
And ever since they arrived, Copa has been absolutely dead!! So many of the girls have told me they wont return until the Hells Angels leave. I guess the fact that two girls got punched out on two separate nights in Help didnt do anything to change the gdp's opinions of them.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]And ever since they arrived, Copa has been absolutely dead!! So many of the girls have told me they wont return until the Hells Angels leave. I guess the fact that two girls got punched out on two separate nights in Help didnt do anything to change the gdp's opinions of them.[/QUOTE]Copa is bad right now, I was with some GDP last night who's friend was with some guy from Denmark who said he was security for the hells angels, what that means I have no idea. He said the angels also stabbed some guy up the other night at another club. Anyone know when they are leaving? I didn't ask.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]And ever since they arrived, Copa has been absolutely dead!! So many of the girls have told me they wont return until the Hells Angels leave. I guess the fact that two girls got punched out on two separate nights in Help didnt do anything to change the gdp's opinions of them.[/QUOTE]I am also on in Copa right now...I observed 2 German Hells Angels last night trying to pick up street putas on Ave Atlantica and they were having a hard time..their English was broken and the girls didn't speak English anyway. I was sitting on a bench nearby overhearing and they seemed respectful of the putas. I observed some Canadian and German HA eating in Marius Crustaceous at Leme..they were quite well mannered. At least some of the guys have good taste in dining, despite their poor taste in clothing. Let's see those jackets paired with plain tees, cargos and Havaianas..haha.
On a garota note, I hit Bar 22 Friday (good), Ns Copa 583 Apt #204 last night (horrible), and today sessioned with Ane at L'uomo shortly after opening. Good session, but Ane lied in the boite about completa and CIM. Thank God for Vitamin C because I came to town tired and will never get rest here. I still laid pipe in Ane for the solid 40 minutes nonstop like a machine due to the C, amazing stuff..God's second gift to man.
I'll be hitting centro the next 2 days and will publish a trip report later in the week.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]And ever since they arrived, Copa has been absolutely dead!! So many of the girls have told me they wont return until the Hells Angels leave. I guess the fact that two girls got punched out on two separate nights in Help didnt do anything to change the gdp's opinions of them.[/QUOTE]When are they leaving town?
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Does anyone know this woman...
Does anyone know this woman Mulher Melancia and where she can found man would I like to spend some time with her DAMMMMM!!! If anyone has any information that can point me in the right directions or get me to her or around her...lol I would greatly appreciate that. Ohh here is a video of her enjoy...:-)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Uu0Iqdjfs[/url]
Thanks guys
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[QUOTE=Abzsafado]As reported elsewhere L'Uomo has done this for a long time. Newcomers to MC usually have the rules of the house spelt out to them on entry. I cannot recall them verbatim but I think it is R$40 for a standard room for 40 minutes. They used to insist that the girls fees were paid in cash, the room, entry and bar bill could be paid with a credit card. However they have changed this to allow the whole bill to be paid by card with an additional fee. I can't recall what the fee is, I always pay cash. They do not charge two room fees for two girls.[/QUOTE]
Unless their policy has changed recently, this is incorrect. L'uomo certainly does charge two room fees for two girls; at least they did with me. According to Jesuscola (see post #1407 below), who should know, since he gets kickbacks for bringing girls to L'uomo, charging two room fees for two girls is a standard practice that he staunchly defends.
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[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I've never been to Rio, but planning a trip now. As part of my research I come across a lot of info, so I thought these might be helpful (not sure about the accuracy or anything....):
Só Filé e Cia
R. Gen. Andrade Neves, 142 - Ingá, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24210-000, (21) 2620-0630
1 Hour: R$100
Room Fee: R$20
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Termas no Centro de Niterói
Av. Ernani do Amaral Peixoto, 357 - Centro, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24020-075
30 Minutes: R$50
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Termas Excentric
R. da Conceição, 132 - Morro do Estado, Niterói, RJ
Brazil, 24020-082, (21) 2722-3759/2620-7547
Hours: Mon-Fri 18:00-???
Entrance Fee: R$20
30 Minutes: R$90
1 Hour: R$130[/QUOTE]
That's it! Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Unless their policy has changed recently, this is incorrect. L'uomo certainly does charge two room fees for two girls; at least they did with me. According to Jesuscola (see post #1407 below), who should know, since he gets kickbacks for bringing girls to L'uomo, charging two room fees for two girls is a standard practice that he staunchly defends.[/QUOTE]
All of the major termas pay commissions--except 4x4. I also get commissions from Solarium, Monte Carlo, 65 and Centaurus. If you can find a single person to whom I have wholeheartedly recommended Centaurus, I will give you every real I have collected from them in the past year. (Hint: It wouldn't be enough to buy a happy meal.) Further, whatever I collect in commissions usually goes right back to the house in the form of drinks bought for the girls. If he were to reflect for a moment, the birdie whispering in your ear could probably confirm this. When I am out, I like to see the girls having a good time, and 20 or 40 reals is not exactly a windfall.
More to the point, I believe if you read closely, you'll see that our friend was talking about "MC" and contrasting that with L'uomo. He wasn't disagreeing, merely adding information.
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Confusion
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Unless their policy has changed recently, this is incorrect. L'uomo certainly does charge two room fees for two girls; at least they did with me. [/QUOTE]
No where in the post did I say that L'Uomo doesn't charge two room fees. Most regular mongers are aware of this and it has been the subject of quite a few posts. I was merely pointing out that a lot of Termas' charge room fees but I believe L'Uomo is unique in charging two fees for one room. If you don't want to pay it don't do duplas in L'Uomo, very simple. I am not sure what their charging policy is if you book a suite with two girls. Perhaps a more regular customer can enlighten us.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]And ever since they arrived, Copa has been absolutely dead!! So many of the girls have told me they wont return until the Hells Angels leave. I guess the fact that two girls got punched out on two separate nights in Help didnt do anything to change the gdp's opinions of them.[/QUOTE]
That might be why the cops were at Meia Pataca Friday morning questioning guys, expecially Angels.
I stayed away, of course.
Yes, Copa has been dead!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Abzsafado]No where in the post did I say that L'Uomo doesn't charge two room fees. Most regular mongers are aware of this and it has been the subject of quite a few posts. I was merely pointing out that a lot of Termas' charge room fees but I believe L'Uomo is unique in charging two fees for one room. If you don't want to pay it don't do duplas in L'Uomo, very simple. I am not sure what their charging policy is if you book a suite with two girls. Perhaps a more regular customer can enlighten us.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I misread your original post and thought you were referring to L'uomo. L'uomo's policy if you book a suite with two girls is to charge you twice for the suite, which they do not advise you of in advance, and twice for the girls, which of course is quite appropriate. So you're right; don't do duplas at L'uomo. (Duh--I kinda figgered that out fer myself.)
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]All of the major termas pay commissions--except 4x4. I also get commissions from Solarium, Monte Carlo, 65 and Centaurus. If you can find a single person to whom I have wholeheartedly recommended Centaurus, I will give you every real I have collected from them in the past year. (Hint: It wouldn't be enough to buy a happy meal.) Further, whatever I collect in commissions usually goes right back to the house in the form of drinks bought for the girls. If he were to reflect for a moment, the birdie whispering in your ear could probably confirm this. When I am out, I like to see the girls having a good time, and 20 or 40 reals is not exactly a windfall.
More to the point, I believe if you read closely, you'll see that our friend was talking about "MC" and contrasting that with L'uomo. He wasn't disagreeing, merely adding information.[/QUOTE]
Now I am very curious, how did you negotiate commissions with every major Termas and why, as you say the money is not important?
And ....how do you find your clients? Do you hang around hotels, bars or what?
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]Now I am very curious, how did you negotiate commissions with every major Termas and why, as you say the money is not important?
And ....how do you find your clients? Do you hang around hotels, bars or what?[/QUOTE]
Yes. In fishnets and pumps.
I didn't negotiate anything. The infrastructure was always there. It was virtually automatic, given my position and introductions. These days it's actually pretty rare to catch me near a termas.
Virtually all of us value our anonymity here. I no less than others.
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Yes. In fishnets and pumps.
I didn't negotiate anything. The infrastructure was always there. It was virtually automatic, given my position and introductions. These days it's actually pretty rare to catch me near a termas.
Virtually all of us value our anonymity here. I no less than others.[/QUOTE]
Now I am even more curious, from what you have said you are either a taxi driver, or a professional pimp. You have already said enough that you cannot claim the 5th at this stage. So please tell us what exactly gives you your ~position and introductions~
Seriously I can only imagine you hanging around hotels and bars, and I think people should know about you! I don`t think you can claim the anonymity of the normal monger.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]Now I am even more curious, from what you have said you are either a taxi driver, or a professional pimp. You have already said enough that you cannot claim the 5th at this stage. So please tell us what exactly gives you your ~position and introductions~
Seriously I can only imagine you hanging around hotels and bars, and I think people should know about you! I don`t think you can claim the anonymity of the normal monger.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha! Of course I can.
Tell you what, if you're ever in BA 85 and you see a tall guy with a short cut mohawk and a tattoo that says "100% Safado," walk up and say the magic words, "Julie Andrews," and I'll buy you a beer and answer some of your questions. ;o)
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Hahahaha! Of course I can.
Tell you what, if you're ever in BA 85 and you see a tall guy with a short cut mohawk and a tattoo that says "100% Safado," walk up and say the magic words, "Julie Andrews," and I'll buy you a beer and answer some of your questions. ;o)[/QUOTE]
Julie, you are certainly someone I will avoid on my next trip to Rio. I am impressed how an american pimp, albeit behind his gay alter ego, can survive for so long in Rio. Parabens!!
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Hahahaha! Of course I can.
Tell you what, if you're ever in BA 85 and you see a tall guy with a short cut mohawk and a tattoo that says "100% Safado," walk up and say the magic words, "Julie Andrews," and I'll buy you a beer and answer some of your questions. ;o)[/QUOTE]I generally make it my policy to avoid touts and pimps in any country!
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strange
Today I tried to access gpguia.net and everytime the server would get really slow and then i would get a connection error.
I am in Rio and had no problem until today. Also, when I reconnect, regular yahoo (my homepage) comes up rather than yahoo brasil, which should be coming up (and usually does).
THIS IS STRANGE!
Ok. I just tried again and am 100% sure that I am being BLOCKED while in RIO!
this is not strange but scary!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]So memebers of hells angels jackoff club stabbed one person and punched out 2 girls LOL!!!!! What a bunch of maniacs. Now where are all the people always complaining about the brothers coming to rio and acting like gangsters and wearing their hats sideways? Those so called gangsters are looking like some good guys now LOL!!!![/QUOTE]
Thats so true...it shows the mental state of some people.....
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Today I tried to access gpguia.net and everytime the server would get really slow and then i would get a connection error.
I am in Rio and had no problem until today. Also, when I reconnect, regular yahoo (my homepage) comes up rather than yahoo brasil, which should be coming up (and usually does).
THIS IS STRANGE!
Ok. I just tried again and am 100% sure that I am being BLOCKED while in RIO!
this is not strange but scary!
TJ[/QUOTE]I just accessed the site via proxy server while in the US. Maybe its a block from where you're attempting to access the site, (internet cafe?)
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[QUOTE=Mimzy]Does anyone know this woman Mulher Melancia and where she can found man would I like to spend some time with her DAMMMMM!!! If anyone has any information that can point me in the right directions or get me to her or around her...lol I would greatly appreciate that. Ohh here is a video of her enjoy...:-)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Uu0Iqdjfs[/url]
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]
Her name is Andressa Soares.
Quite a celebrity. You better forget about her.
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Chick Who Hangs Out @ MP
I've seen the one going by name of Cassandra, in this flick,
hanging out at MP, and on the beach in front of Othlon.
You can download her scene from bootytorrents.com/
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[quote=java man]i just accessed the site via proxy server while in the us. maybe its a block from where you're attempting to access the site, (internet cafe?)[/quote]
thanks. i was using my laptop in my apartment. everytime i tried to access the site i got disconnected. the last time it happended i was actually posting on this site (isg) via one window while receiving a disconnected message on another window, so i knew something was not right.
this morning i totally disconnected my laptop, the modem, etc., waited 2 minutes the rebooted everything. now i can access gpguia.
i am somewhat sure it is a proxy/us computer issue. it is related to how when you use your latop your regular us homepage tries to load at times, then you have to disconnect and reboot. your computer knows it is american and has to be forced to use the other language, so to speak.
yesterday, to speed things up i just shut down the computer , leaving all the cords connected, which is why my computer probably kept reverting back to american mode.
tj
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Want to bang a playboy magazine babe?
[QUOTE=Mimzy]Does anyone know this woman Mulher Melancia and where she can found man would I like to spend some time with her DAMMMMM!!! If anyone has any information that can point me in the right directions or get me to her or around her...lol I would greatly appreciate that. Ohh here is a video of her enjoy...:-)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Uu0Iqdjfs[/url]
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]
Just go to 4 x 4 and ask for Vanessa, and her real name is Monica. She was in the brazilian Playboy magazine in 2005, and she still looks hot. She has a big, round ass if that is your cup of tea. But beware, she is fiesty and you have to catch her in a good mood. She is all about the money, time is money for her.
Hopefully, your portuguese is decent. All should go well in taming this crazy garota. She is a morena with long straight her, and a great smile and amzing ass. Nice tits too. She does not wear much makeup. She has a tattoo of a her scorpio sing on her foremarm. Good luck. Laters!
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Her name is Andressa Soares.
Quite a celebrity. You better forget about her.[/QUOTE]Thanks sperto I have since found out that she's like a star of brasil no problem I will be heading to 4x4 to get a look like when I get there..lol Man I love Rio.
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Disappearing post
Hi TJ Fannatic!
I wonder what happened to your post of the Evasive girls? I saw it yesterday, then it dissapeared and I haven´t seen it since then.
Anyway, thanks for your PM! I tried to reply but got this message:
"TJ Fannatic has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space."
As soon as I know it´s ok I will try to send another PM.
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Puta Playa Rio Trip Report - Part I
Summary:
4 days, 7 casas, 7 girls. Sessions were split between Copa and Centro.
This was my first time mongering in Rio. I was impressed by the sheer number of available girls and casas, but dissapointed in the garden variety of sex that was typically offered. Where are the pervy girls that have to tamed, rather than asked for debauchery? My previous mongering experience in Brasil was in Sao Paulo termas (Dreams and mainly Bacos) Every girl at Bacos was a completa gravy eater and quasi ass fetishist. They would try to do other stuff like crazy positions, rimming, etc if you allowed them. Stress the word allow, because they just go after you and you might end up with a finger somewhere unexpected or having your toes chewed if you let down your guard. In Rio, I found only 1 completa and CIM girl out of 7. Paulistas have the reputation in Brazil for being more straightlaced than Cariocas, so I had very high expectations for Carioca garotas with regard to what they would do. Overall, the Rio scene is still awesome due to the variety of girls and low price. It just takes a lot of trials and money to find a Rio equivalent to the Paulistas, but from now on I’ll get a cell number and take-out when I find one. I’ll be counting the days until I can come back.
My goal was to open up 7 girls at 7 different places, besting my previous Brazil score by 1 in less days than before. Some are you are aware, from another thread, that I was there on business with some devout puritans (one is my boss) for most of the days and had to fly under their radars. Mission accomplished using advice from the board! Everybody was happy, except one of us was really happy and that’s me.
So now on to the logistics of getting balls deep in as many GDP’s as possible, on limited time and money while seeing lots of the town and running the gamut of ho houses to the point where you can honestly tell your jealous friends back home that you have "Done Rio." Figuratively, or literally, as you wish.
HOTELS:
I stayed at Copacabana Premier and it is not girl friendly. They have a sign at the front desk stating prohibition of GdP’s. I recommend that mongers needing GFE/takeout stay nearby at Atlantico Copacabana, which has been noted in the forum to be girl friendly. I’m not (yet) into bringing GDP’s to the room, and valued the free wireless more, hence the choice to stay where I did. This part of Rua Tonelero is a nice area to stay, safe, not touristy, and both aforementioned hotels are right across the street from the Siqueria Campos metro station, allowing easy access to Centro termas or any normal places that you might want to go downtown.
MONEY:
In Copa, an ATM is just inside the grocery store near the corner of Rua Sequeira Campos and Rua Tonelero and it has a great exchange rate with low fee.
In Centro, I spent all day there and didn’t find an ATM. All the banks have a zillion machines but they are for bank transactions only. Even the Bradesco machines with Cirrus/Plus logos wouldn’t accept my ATM card.
MONGER MEDS:
Vitamin C and Azitromicina can be purchased at the drogaria near the corner of Rua Figueirdo and Rua Tonelero, for those like me who enjoy better mongering through science. I also bought a pack of Cialis at a Pacheco drugstore downtown on Ave Rio Branco. R$56 for 2 pills and R$117 for 4. The azitro was generic and called Zitroneo, R$33 for a 3 pill pack. I got a bad eye infection from my first mongering experience in the termas of Sao Paulo. I got slightly drunk and crazy every night, 69ing garotas (yes, I know) I’m sure this is the cause, so now I medicate with Zitro to prevent any culo eye or so forth (and don’t 69’ GDPs). Zitro is good for treatment of anything non-viral you can catch from a GDP or her casa, so I take a 500 mg pill daily assuming it’s also preventative.
Cialis is great too. I really only want 1 good GDP per day, but I’m playing a numbers game so it helps me to rise to the occasion when I don’t even feel in the mood but need to work fast on the score. It the only way to go if you need to do a second session that starts with CBJ.
MONGER FUEL:
Maracus in Leme was great seafood, albeit expensive and a little overwhelming in the number of foods presented. Porcao Rios was good churrascaria. I ate pastels from the shops and stick churrascaria from the illegal street vendors most of the time, when the policia weren’t tipping over the carts as I walked up. Nothing more to say since I’m not really a foodie.
MONGER CLOTHES:
Do dress down in Copa and wear Havanianas. Don’t wear Havanianas or shorts in Centro during winter. That is Copa dress. Doing so in Centro makes you a target for touts and beggars, as everyone else is in street shoes and pants and you stick out. Centro Day Two I switched to jeans and Doc Martens and I was not bothered. Maybe it’s the big DM stompers that keeps them away.
Bring your favorite condoms, 2 for every session you intend to have. My memory of the thick little Brazilian condoms had faded due to time and their negation by the buceta muscle skills of the Paulista GDP’s, and hence I did not feel motivated to bring my own supply. Rio GDP’s did not compensate during BJ or by flexing the buceta. Perhaps they are so heavily trafficked in Rio thre is no flex left! ? Only Ane at L’uomo had the vise grip, a bit counterintuitive since she was the only momma of the bunch.
Monger Humor
Q: ‘William, what does your mom do for a living’ A: "Anything that’s got a pulse and a $R270 line of credit", haha.
COMMON SENSE AND SAFETY:
This time I only ate at the Y once, got out of centro via Metro before 9 pm and never drank a sigificant amount of alcohol. I have a self-control problem and ‘it won’t happen to me’ attitude, hence I have an innate tendency to throw it all out there on the line, balls to the wall. So, not giving the GDP’s a BFE, not drinking enough to hurt my game, and remembering my place in Brazil as a gringo.. That was a growth experience in my journey toward becoming a seasoned monger.
GAROTAS AND THEIR CASAS:
Friday 6/19.--- HANGING OUT IN THE BAR
Sessioned at:
Copacabana Termas: Bar 22
Arrived in Copa about 9 pm and hit Bar 22 (Rua Sequeira Campos, 22). If you are coming from the direction of the beach, it is on the right hand side of Sequeira Campos right around the corner from the bar with the big yellow Brahma beer awning. It has a 22 on each side of the narrow doorway. Walk up the stairs and pay the girl $R12 entrance and get your tab sheet for beer, garota bingo, etc. The rooms have showers but aren’t very clean.
The bar was packed with locals and about 10 girls. I got lucky and got the best looking girl in the place, Bianca, as I walked through the door. Morena, 27 yrs, about 5’6, no kids, no damage to the goods, no tattoos, told me she was married and showed the ring (I came on that, ha! ), super tight for a late 20 something, meaning both the buceta and the overall body. Not a hardcore GDP. The age, attitude and condition of the goods leads me to believe she’s new to the game most likely with some variation of pimp/cuckold fetish thing going on with the husband. Some guy was motioning to her to hurry up and session whilst we were waiting for bingo. I thought he was waiting in line for a turn, but I sessioned with Bianca, she went back to the boite as did I, but he just sat across the room and watched her. Some uncommon voyeuristic situation for sure. During session, I asked if she does BBBJ (chupeta sem camisinha in my pig Porto), she shook her head like "maybe". I gave an incredulous look and she yielded "Sim." I paid at the desk, $100 R for 30 minutes. You go to a room, wash your junk in the shower, and proceed. The place is not clean, but the selection is nice. Bianca did BBBJ, followed by a great and very realistic orgasmic session on her part (Brazileras are great actresses, so look at their toes to see if they are coming for real), then finished with a BBBJ but would not allow CIM.
I was just coming back from a week in a third-world village elsewhere in RJ state, happy to have hot shower, hot café, and hot buceta, so I didn’t try for completa but probably could have got there. I got a finger up anyway. It’s the effort that counts, I’ll keep telling myself that.
Overall, if Bianca is representative, Bar 22 is a nice place to hang out and session. Good vibe, more like a normal bar that happens to have GDPs. Mostly its locals who drink beer and fondle, but weren’t buying programmas. So the bingo game was a huge deal. The house roared when some poor but lucky bastard finally won.
Saturday, 6/20: DOWN AND DIRTY IN COPA
Sessioned at:
Copa Casa: Ave Ns Copacabana 583 Apt 204.
This was a slow day due to the obligatory Corvocado trip and due to my traveling with the chaste gentlemen, who clung to me like stink on shit and almost shut down my mongering activities for the day.
I visited Ave Ns Copacabana 583 Apt 204 at 8:30 pm. Walked in past the elevator and took two flights of stairs up. If visiting, just follow the sound of blasting music. There is no cover charge. 5 girls were in the apartment. 2 were chatting it up with the house boss. Low quality here, but I got a 7 out of the group and that was the best. Here name begins with a T but doesn’t matter. At $R90 for 20 minutes it wasn’t a value; however, I was in the mood for new and fast foda, so I sessioned. The girl had a poor attitude, "hurry up and pop, did you pop? ". Gostar. Sem? Orgasmo, sem? (I’m still balls deep. WTF do you think? ). Her junk had odor, like she’d just been rooted in the culo. The presentation during the act was fake to the point of annoyance. I have a mongering name that I have used all over the world, and it is the real name of a super straightlaced guy that I used to work with. So basically, the whole time she is calling out that guy’s name at the top of her lungs and annoying me. It was not a good session. I wanted to just leave after 5 minutes, but I doubted that they would have a liberal refund plicy.
At this point, I began thinking of going upscale to L’uomo or similar at a higher price point.
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Puta Playa Rio Trip Report - Part II
SUNDAY, 6/21: MOVING ON UP
Sessioned at:
Copa Termas : L’uomo
Went to L’uomo about 4:30, shortly after opening. R$60 entrance and $210 for a 40 min cabine. There were about 10 girls in the boite. About 4 of them were really hot. I chose to sit with the loira named Ane based on long range presentation before even seeing the moneymakers. (The shine of PVC accoutrements and glittering eyeshadow sets off some hormonal reaction in me, I’d run off a cliff chasing the vista.) She was great in the boite and promised completa and CIM. She’s 23 and has a kid but no scars. We hung out there for about an hour and went back for session. The session was good, very spirited girl and a hard worker who enjoys the job. She came for real several times, the curled toes telling the truth, and she was rubbing her clit like crazy while I layed pipe. however, she lied about completa and also wouldn’t allow a CIM finish, either. I got a finger in the culo, and that’s it. She was like, “nao, nao, nao” and gave me the Mutombo finger wag repeatedly, so I gave up.
Then I decided that, the next time I get turned down for culo, I’m checking the GDP’s kit to see if a partially used tube of asscaine cream is in there. If so, and if I was promised completa, I’m arguing the right to sphincter and lower GI based on the GDP’s premeditation and preparedness.
If you session with Ane, make her work it in the boite. I noticed that Ane is really into herself, loves to dance in the boite and watch herself in the mirrors. Kind of gets a weird focused look in her eyes when she does it, like she’s watching in third person; turning herself on or something. The beer loosens up her attitude fast, she went from zero to horny in 2 Skols. Buy her 4 Skol and you may get an outstanding completa session.
40 mins in cabine and 4 skol beers costed me US$136. This included Ane’s drink commision, which was about US$2.5. The exchange rate was 0.95:1 for USD. L’uomo was good and a much needed respite from the low end casas.
MONDAY, 6/22: THE BIG CENTRO TOUR
Sessioned at:
Centro Casa: Flavia Massagens located at
Centro Casa: No Name but located at Ave. Rio Branco 185 Apt 2622
Now the weeked was over and Centro was my new frontier, so I rode the metro from Siqueria Campos station to U station. I took most of the sample trip that Christopherd posted here not long ago. (Thanks Chris for the great and accurate directions..having the printed copy of your tour is like having a Carioca wingman).
I stopped at BA85 and there were a *lot* of girls there. The stairs looked like something from a submarine; treacherous, and as old as Rio itself. I saw a stunning morena, a real spinner about 4.5 feet tall. I would have taken her, but she was yawning every 10 seconds so I figured a tired garota would be a waste of time and opted out.
So I left BA85 and went to Flavia Massagens. By far, best session of the trip was had at this Tier 3 casa. Prices were as shown in Bwana Dik’s guide, so I won’t repeat them here. They have a shower and the place is clean. You walk in, look around at the girls and take your pick. I sessioned with Brenda. Great looking 20 yr old girl, beautiful girl next door face, natural tits, nice cushy Brazilian bunda. After BBBJ foreplay, I invited myself to open her GDP kit and looked inside. I saw the asscaine that completa GDP’s carry, so I pulled it out and had her lube up. Due to my limited Porto, I think, but can’t be sure, that she offered me BB culo. She was asscained, legs skyward and just waiting to be entered, then finally offered the camisinha when I hestiated to stick it in sem camisinha. If so, that is scary. Anyway, When she rolled back to offer the culo straight-away, I felt as if I had taken a time machine back to those glory days of yesteryear in Termas Bacos. I pounded the culo for about 40 minutes straight and she never complained, rather she liked it and put me right back in when I popped out. I never touched the buceta. She finished me with CIM, swallowed, and then asked me if I wanted to pop again. Awesome girl. I declined because I wanted to save some juice for another girl and casa, yet to be determined at that time. She bummed a cigarette from me, we smoked for a bit, and she ended up giving me a full body massage. The whole cigarette thing reminded me, from experience elsewhere in mongering and normal sitations, that smoker girls tend to give up culo and CIM more often and easier than non-smokers. Risk aversion defines a lifestyle. , so from then on it is notably helpful to remember “fumanche o nao fumanche?” From Sao Paulo termas, I learned that if a girl will smoke, and full tongue in the boite, and drinks more than you (even better)…you’re in for a great session.
I stopped at Urgania 24 and really appreciated the wide staircase after climbing wet monkey bars in Havanianas at BA85. Lots of girls at U24, but no stunners. The selection here was not as a good as BA85. I stopped by here twice during the day just to use the free non-functioning but open bathroom on the top floor, which is the second nastiest area I’ve ever been in. I thought my dick would get bitten by a hungry fly. I can’t find banheiros in centro. I guess you have to patronize a brothel to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. That’s what I did. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], session, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], leave. ‘I have to take a leak, better check Spertos list for a casa.’
Next I stopped at Casarao about 4 pm. There were about 6 girls. With the exception of 1, non of them seemed alive. The best looking girl in the casa had a boot kicked up on the table and was leaned back taking a rest. Wouldn’t go back here. They ripped me off by posting Skol at 3 on the boite sign, then charging me 5 at cash-out time. I didn’t have the Porto, time, or motivation to argue it.
I checked out Rua do Ouvidor 130, as listed in Sperto’s centro guide, but it was closed and the brothels have moved. Being a shamelessy ugly first-world devil puta monger and all around safado, I had stopped by just so that I could say that I parked my dick in a Brasilera for less than the cost of parking a car in my city. $10 USD, (R$20 per pop) per Sperto. There was a sign that said that they have moved to 137 and gave a phone number to call for directions. 137 is across the street and is a big building, so I couldn’t tell what floor or apartments they might have moved to.
Lastly, I sessioned with yet another Brenda at Ave. Rio Branco 185 Apt 2622. Nicest casa of the trip. It looks classy and has a shower. You might say the casa was decorated with a woman’s touch. The girls, about 8 of them, come out one by one and introduce themselves to you i.e. ‘Ola, Tudo Bem?..Brenda”, so remember the name if you see one you like. R$85/40 min as per Sperto’s list. Brenda was the best of the morenas and lighter girls, which I am into, but had a late twenties facial complexion and stretch marks on the hips, which shows up strong on the morenas. She likes the taste of latex, so stay away from her if you need a BBBJ. It was entertaining to see her fuck up three times trying to be cool/sexy with putting the Brazilian 20 mil tarp on using only lips and tongue. Had I not been pissed about the condom, I would have laughed on try number 2 and probably gotten my dick bitten off for the insult to her skill. When the big heavy tarp comes out at BJ time, that’s when Vitamin C pays for itself.
The Brendas are not a collective. I was spoiled earlier in the day by the other Brenda at Flavia massage, 20 yrs old, perfect skin, perfect culo, no evidence of mileage. I wished I could bottle that and take it home. This second Brenda, I’d have timeshared the rest mid-session for R$20 if possible.
TUESDAY, 6/23:
GOING OUT IN A SPURT OF GLORY
Sessioned at:
Centro Casa: Bel Prazer, Ave Rio Branco 185 sala 2114
Centro Termas: Quatro por Quatro (4x4), Rua Buenos Aires 44
Last day in Rio, so I had to stay in the game and make it good by pointing 4 more new legs skyward that day. Ordem e Progresso. This would accomplish my goal of banging 7 garotas for the trip and besting my previous Sao Paulo score by 1. Centro was the destination, via the metro again.
I stopped at Bel Prazer about 1:30 pm. To reach Bel Prazer, find 185 Rio Branco, enter and walk down the winding ramp, then go to the far elevators. You need to go to the 20th floor. Once you reach the 20th floor, go up the staircase and look for the door with 2114 on it.
At Bel Prazer, The setup is the same as Branco 185 Apt 2622, the girls come out and introduce themselves one by one and you need to remember the names of the ones you like. There were about 6 girls available. The cost was R$100 for one hora in cabine. They have a shower and the place is relatively clean; however, I am not 100% certain that they change the sheets between sessions. The other apartments, like Flavia, gave the girls a sheet that she would throw down over the fitted sheet before the session. Bel Prazer just had a green fitted sheet.
I believe it was R$70 if you took the 30 minutos option. I rented a cabine with Isabela for an hour because somewhere I’d read that she does completa. I would suggest getting there before lunch to avoid the rush of office workers; four entered the casa within minutes after I got there.
Isabella was not completa. I checked her GDP kit for asscaine and found none; however, judging visually by the condition of her culo, she has done anal many times and with gusto. Not prolapsed at the time, but a couple twigs of rectal meat sticking out, indicative of previous injuries. Perhaps this is the same Isabela and *used* to be completa? Anyway, 50 minutos of hard pounding and humping until we were both surely nearing dehydration. The session ended with BBJ and she told me not to pop in her boca; however, I did it anyway as punishment for turning down completa and she wasn’t too upset. She spat the load onto the sheet and asked me if I wanted to take another shower, which I didn’t because of the facilities at the next destination. There was a dark sweaty imprint of Isabella on the green sheet, which I found quite amusing…again make sure they’ve given you a clean sheet before session.
So I got done at Bel Prazer about 2:30, grabbed a couple pastels carne, chewed up a whole Vitamin C, and headed straight for the mecca, 4x4, with my junk still dripping sucos de Isabela. I had to pick up luggage in Copa and head for the airport in a few hours and so I was in a big hurry. I got there at 3 PM and there were about 40 girls and 5 mongers in the termas. Barely anyplace to sit because the girls had all the seats in the boite, and even more were standing. The girls were mostly just chatting with each other and showing off to each other, playing ‘who can shake it fastest’. I watched from the bar for about 10 min and moved in on a GDP named Melanie. I sat with her for about 10 minutes and there was some tongue action and junk stroking, signs of a good session to come. After 3 minutes, she started pushing for the session. At 10 minutes, I said to wait until I’d finished the last quarter of my Skol, 5 minutos, then she said something like ‘okay, you finish your beer and I’m going to walk around’ I was like WTF!!??
So, don’t try Melanie. She’d be pushing for a 4 minute pop on a 40 minute session, for sure.
I’d been watching a loira with a big bunda and nice rack for some time whilst she was chatting it up with another GDP. After Melanie ditched me, I picked up on the loira, Carol. Carol’s face is **exactly** like that of Elisha Cuthbert, doppelganger for sure. Tongue action in the boite was good and she made genuine efforts to make conversation and understand my Porto. We sat for about 10 minutes and then went back for session.
Carol has a nice ~36C rack, light skin and the classic big Brazilian bunda, just what I wanted to finish the trip on a high note. Cushion for pushin…and I did. She does BBBJ but no completa and no CIM. For 35 minutes, I pulled the hair, smacked the ass, positioned her every which way and finished in the best style allowed by spraying what was left of my seed across her brazzers (too bad I spent most of it earlier in Isabelas mouth at BP).
The $40R entry fee was waived because I sessioned before 5 pm. The total cost was R$206, consisting of R$190 for the 40 minute session in a cabine and $16 for 2 Skol. It was a good deal for some fine big bunda. I think I like 4x4 better than L’uomo.
So endeth this saga. I am back to the land of Puritan sex haters and melting back into the machine..but the blues haven’t hit me yet. I am supposed to go back to the wonderful city in a few months, this time without the zealots, so plan to maybe score 12 starting at 4 x 4, apartments in between, and ending with Solarium. With proper rest this next time, I may even feel the strength to gain bonus points by taking the BA85 challenge.
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BA 85 Challenge
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]SUNDAY, 6/21: MOVING ON UP
With proper rest this next time, I may even feel the strength to gain bonus points by taking the BA85 challenge.
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Great report.
I'm in training now for the challenge.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
HOTELS:
I stayed at Copacabana Premier and it is not girl friendly. They have a sign at the front desk stating prohibition of GdP’s. [/QUOTE]
PP,
excellent report. But your intel on the Copacabana Premier is dead-wrong. I have stayed there fairly recently and brought several girl over for TLN. Never a problem with the night crew. One of the girls wanted a toothbrush, and one of the doormen even went to a store and bought one for me. (The R20 note I gave him may have helped :)).
Yes, their wireless is free and works great. Even enough bandwidth for some video-conferencing software. Breakfast OK. Rooms on the small side, but with nice furniture. Outstanding bathrooms with great showers, big enough for 2.
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Adriana 4 x 4 Buyer, beware.
She has Victoria Secret model body, she is a morena with brown hair. Always taking care of herself like a princess. She is a carioca. Stay the f**k away from her. Her service was so bad, I told her at the end of the session that I thought she likes women more than men. Lol, she went on a rampage. She did not approve of my comment.
Easily, the worse service I have had in all of my experiences in Rio. Well, you just can't win them all.
* She is usaully hanging out with her best friend....a short morena who is not all that hot.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]She has Victoria Secret model body, she is a morena with brown hair. Always taking care of herself like a princess. She is a carioca. Stay the f**k away from her. Her service was so bad, I told her at the end of the session that I thought she likes women more than men. Lol, she went on a rampage. She did not approve of my comment.
Easily, the worse service I have had in all of my experiences in Rio. Well, you just can't win them all.
* She is usaully hanging out with her best friend....a short morena who is not all that hot.[/QUOTE]I sessioned with her 3 times in April one session was a dupla with a blonde, she gave great service all three times. On my next trip I plan to repeat with her. I am curious, what was bad about her service?
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Adriana
[QUOTE=Mangera]She has Victoria Secret model body, she is a morena with brown hair. Always taking care of herself like a princess. She is a carioca. Stay the f**k away from her. Her service was so bad, I told her at the end of the session that I thought she likes women more than men. Lol, she went on a rampage. She did not approve of my comment.
Easily, the worse service I have had in all of my experiences in Rio. Well, you just can't win them all.
* She is usaully hanging out with her best friend....a short morena who is not all that hot.[/QUOTE]
This is really disappointing news. I took Adriana for a couple of sessions about 18 months ago and was very pleased ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=607674&postcount=3652[/url]). Perhaps working too long in the business has hardened her ...
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Corrections to PP Rio Report
Moderator, can you change the PP report to say 156 Ave Rio Branco Apt 2622, not 185 Branco?
I would hate for some poor monger to waste time looking for that apt at 185; there is no such apt in the 185 building.
Euro, thanks for the real story on Premier. The sign about GDP's threw me off. I claim the Rio rookie defense.
Mod please correct the PP report accordingly, if possible, to reflect girl friendliness at Premier.
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Adriana
I was with Adriana over the weekend. Her service was pretty good, but not stellar. Nothing to complain about IMO. YMMV
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
I stayed at Copacabana Premier and it is not girl friendly. They have a sign at the front desk stating prohibition of GdP’s.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Euro100]But your intel on the Copacabana Premier is dead-wrong. I have stayed there fairly recently and brought several girl over for TLN. [/QUOTE]
I stayed there last year and didn't have problems bringing a Help girl in. PP, by any chance are you referring to the standard sign you would see in any and every Rio hotel stating that the practice of prostitution by minors is a crime?
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]I stayed there last year and didn't have problems bringing a Help girl in. PP, by any chance are you referring to the standard sign you would see in any and every Rio hotel stating that the practice of prostitution by minors is a crime?[/QUOTE]So that's what that said! I couldn't read the Porto sign fully, but saw the word that looked like prostitute so jumped to a conclusion that it meant no GDP's.
Now I am thinking that I'd wished I'd understood the sign. I'm not into all nighters, but I would have called Karla's models in for 2 hrs had I understood. Next time, I'll stay at the same place and do that!
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I'm sure this is just a standard answer and is not applied in practice, but here's the e-mail answer I got when I asked if I could bring a girl back . . .
"If you want to receive guest,you need to pay U$ 60,00.
The hotel allow just one guest per day.
Atenciosamente,
Debora e Andrea
Premier Copacabana Hotel
Dpt Reservas
Telefone: (21) 3816-9090
Fax: (21) 2547-4139
http://www.premier.com.br"
[QUOTE=Monger Man]I stayed there last year and didn't have problems bringing a Help girl in. PP, by any chance are you referring to the standard sign you would see in any and every Rio hotel stating that the practice of prostitution by minors is a crime?[/QUOTE]
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Are we talking about the same Adriana?
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I was with Adriana over the weekend. Her service was pretty good, but not stellar. Nothing to complain about IMO. YMMV[/QUOTE]
First off, 4 x 4 is closed during the weekend. Secondly, she clearly stated that she does not work on the weekends when trying to set something up outside the club.
She was trying to hit me up for a dupla in the cabina. I suggested that I need more than an hour with a dupla, and would be willing to do it outside the club. SHe said no, cause " she has to rest her pussy on weekends because of all the pounding it gets from monday to friday".
There is probably a good chance there is another Adriana at 4 x 4 within the 150 gdp's in the house.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]
There is probably a good chance there is another Adriana at 4 x 4 within the 150 gdp's in the house.[/QUOTE]
It really is an annoyingly common name. At one time I had so many Adrianas on my mobile it was a nightmare remembering which was which.
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Guest Fees
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I'm sure this is just a standard answer and is not applied in practice, but here's the e-mail answer I got when I asked if I could bring a girl back . . .
"If you want to receive guest,you need to pay U$ 60,00.
The hotel allow just one guest per day.
Atenciosamente,
Debora e Andrea
Premier Copacabana Hotel
Dpt Reservas
Telefone: (21) 3816-9090
Fax: (21) 2547-4139
http://www.premier.com.br"[/QUOTE]
If memory serves, it was only R$40 per guest per night last year.
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Adriana
[QUOTE=Christopherd]It really is an annoyingly common name. At one time I had so many Adrianas on my mobile it was a nightmare remembering which was which.[/QUOTE]
Nice problem to have :)
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[QUOTE=Mangera]There is probably a good chance there is another Adriana at 4 x 4 within the 150 gdp's in the house.[/QUOTE]
There should only be one girl per name working at 4x4 at any one time. The girls are given their names by one of the managers (the one who MCs the show) and he makes sure their names are all different.
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By weekend, I meant Monday. I don't doubt that there was another Adriana though.
[QUOTE=Mangera]First off, 4 x 4 is closed during the weekend. Secondly, she clearly stated that she does not work on the weekends when trying to set something up outside the club.
She was trying to hit me up for a dupla in the cabina. I suggested that I need more than an hour with a dupla, and would be willing to do it outside the club. SHe said no, cause " she has to rest her pussy on weekends because of all the pounding it gets from monday to friday".
There is probably a good chance there is another Adriana at 4 x 4 within the 150 gdp's in the house.[/QUOTE]
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No biggie!
[QUOTE=Jesuscola]There should only be one girl per name working at 4x4 at any one time. The girls are given their names by one of the managers (the one who MCs the show) and he makes sure their names are all different.[/QUOTE]
Maybe she was tired and it was one of those nights.....no big deal.....there are plenty of others to choose from. Have fun guys!
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]If memory serves, it was only R$40 per guest per night last year.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's what I paid, too.
BTW, I booked Premier Copacabana through hotels.com and prepaid at a very good rate, making sure that I got a double bed (not automatic, as I learned the hard way at another hotel). The "guest fees" then never showed up on my hotel bill, and I was able to pay them in cash upon checkout. [If you are a governor of a certain Southern US state and read this, then please take note. ;) ... might save you from having to pay back the taxpayer money next time.]
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De⋅bauch⋅er⋅y!
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]... My previous mongering experience in Brasil was in Sao Paulo termas (Dreams and mainly Bacos) Every girl at Bacos was a completa gravy eater and quasi ass fetishist. They would try to do other stuff like crazy positions, rimming, etc if you allowed them. Stress the word allow, because they just go after you and you might end up with a finger somewhere unexpected or having your toes chewed if you let down your guard. In Rio, I found only 1 completa and CIM girl out of 7. [/QUOTE]Great report, PP, well-organized and helpful.
(that voyeur at the bingo place would have given me the creeps so that I never return. And indeed, I won't be patronizing Bar 22 (Rua Sequeira Campos, 22) in Copa. Ever.)
Where in Sao Paulo are Dreams and Bacos?
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]Great report, PP, well-organized and helpful.
(that voyeur at the bingo place would have given me the creeps so that I never return. And indeed, I won't be patronizing Bar 22 (Rua Sequeira Campos, 22) in Copa. Ever.)
Where in Sao Paulo are Dreams and Bacos?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment, glad to help.
Hey, Bar 22 was a good place though. You need not stay away just because one guy likes to see his girl getting hooked up with strange. He wasn't watching the act (as far as I know!). Go to one of the ABS places in the US where guys take their wives for internet group GB's, then just watch what transpires. You'll be jaded. Nothing will ever creep you out again, you'll go anywhere and do anything.
There were more attractive girls in that small bar than in all the floors of BA85 put together, so don't pass it up.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]Dreams and Bacos?[/QUOTE]I can't remember the location of Dreams. It was a small place and we only went there two nights.
Bacos was in Sao Bernardo do Campo, Av Lucas Nogueira Garcez. Not sure if it's still open. It was like a slightly better version of 4x4 . Saturday nights were unbelievable with about 120 girls, open until something like 4. Most smoking hot with a lot of Porto looking white girls in the mix. I can't find it on the web now. I miss that place so bad. Went there 4 nights in a row. Ask about it on the SP thread if you are really interested. It might be closed now..I think even the big hitter, Bahama, got shut down.
Sampa is a whole different deal than Rio. The places are almost always open, and until the wee hours of the morning. Lots of girls were from Brasilia and other places, not local. Another difference, the girls in Sampa lived in the termas and were flown back and forth to Lisbon for weeks at a time for an alternate work location, so they made a lot of money in Euros. Since the girls lived in the termas, they were ready and eager to go for TLN since it was better food at your place and it meant that they didn't have to shack with other girls. My buddy bought TLN at 2 AM and she stayed until time to report for shift the next day, 2 pm or so. The cost was cheap, like the cost of an hora in the room. But you had to session a girl first before you could buy TLN.
Are there any termas in Rio like that, which send out garotas late night for TLN for a flat fee?
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Hey guys just met a girl at brazilcupid, her name is Juliana (on line), when I asked what she did for a living, her reply was 'its complicated' no doubt that means 'the programma'. Anybody know her? She lives in coppacabana.
Vaughnyb
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I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]I won't laugh out loud here but I will just say that a high percentage of the members of this board know how "uncomplicated" Juliana is. Nice girl though.
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]
Complicated nothing, You'll find her at Help on a nightly basis.
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overweight help garota
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]She has been going to help for years now. She is in a few photo's in the photo gallery too. Never been with her, she is too fat for me.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]She has Victoria Secret model body, she is a morena with brown hair. Always taking care of herself like a princess. She is a carioca. Stay the f**k away from her. Her service was so bad, I told her at the end of the session that I thought she likes women more than men. Lol, she went on a rampage. She did not approve of my comment.
Easily, the worse service I have had in all of my experiences in Rio. Well, you just can't win them all.
* She is usaully hanging out with her best friend....a short morena who is not all that hot.[/QUOTE]
I know which girl you are talking about. She's tall, thin, and has a face that kind of looks a little like Adriana Lima. I sessioned with her short morena friend, Anna Belle before. The session with Anna Belle was terrible - no kissing, very mechanical. I asked her about Adriana and she said "Adriana was a safada, had worked there for 5 years, and liked women". So the lesbian thing might actually be true.
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Complicated nothing.
[QUOTE=Flexinbk]Complicated nothing, You'll find her at Help on a nightly basis.[/QUOTE]
I think you may even find pictures of her somewhere in the forum. I am not 100% sure, but someone posted pictures of her during the past year or so. Do a search and see what comes up.
* By the way, she looks as though she can suck like a champ :)
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]
Take a look in Photo section and you'll find out Juliana's profession.
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[quote=vaughnyb1]i met this girl on brazilcupid named juliana. anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when i asked what she did for work. she said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. anybody know her?[/quote]
i got chatting to quite a few women on brazilcupid before i came to
brazil. one in particular kept sending me messages, telling me that she
worked as a beauty therapsit! but i found it hard to believe as every other
message was 'i love you', 'i miss you' or 'i'm waiting for you darling' after
only a week of chatting to each other..lol
anyways i'm on the beach infront of othlon and this really black garota is stood in front of me giggling her massive ass. i walk down to the sea and she follows. it turns out that this is the beauty therapist! she does not recognise me at all! we start negotiations, and i get her down to 150 for 3 hours completa, for later in the evening
i go back to my apartment to double check her picture on brazilcupid and yes its her. she arrives later and we get down to it. her face is nothing nice but her booty is huge just like the porn star sky black at the moment. anyway after we're finished i say you are on brazilcupid arn't you and she goes quiet. i then show her my profile and the penny drops.
as it happens this chick turned out to be a right nightmare towards the end of my trip. i would be on the beach chatting to women and she would fly of the handle. she would go up to other garotas sat near to me and tell them who i was and to keep an eye on me. i was in balcony and she shows up. so i head down to mp and she follows. i was in help one night and her friend comes across saying that she really likes me. i go to talk to her to sort the shit out and she threatens me with the police if i go with anyone that night!!
i have to say thanks to the guys at [url]http://www.amerioca.net/[/url] as they gave me the heads up afew times when she was loitering outside my apartment trying to come in, using the excuse i owed her money. the final straw was when i had just finished a great session with rose and she left at 3.30am, and at 4.30am the phsyco turns up downstairs with her friend and the police. i slept through the intercom buzzing and fairplay the doorman never let them up!
i was in ta on the last night but one, and she turns up and starts speaking to the girls on tables close to me and then she walks up and down the street like she is looking for someone. i didn't want to take any chances of getting shaken down by the police or anyone else for that matter, so i headed to balcony where i met the short haired chick (pics already posted).
she hangs out on the beach daily and is a regular at help. she has a laugh that goes like ah ah ah ah ah. so i always knew when she was around. i don't have her pic but shes on brazilcupid by the name of aulda. i blocked her from msn but she has changed her email afew time to try and contact me.
she sent me a instant message saying she loves me!!! i sent one back saying you brought the police to my apartment to take money from me at 4.30am!! her response is;
"sim mas ele era meu amigo enao iria fazer nada com voce ele sabia da verdade era so para voce atender e falar com migo jamas eu iria fazer mul a voce por eu te quero te verdade nao queria te perder"
anyone care to translate?
i posting this report on her so other people don't get caught up in the shit i did.
still it was a fucking awsome holiday. what is it with brazilian women being so skilled at fucking and blow jobs. and the enthusiasm they have aswell. i have never come across this with any other nationalities?
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Translation
Koolkid this is the translation
She is saying "yes i did bring the policemen to your building but he was only a friend and he was not going to do anything to harm you and he knew that he was only there so that i can speak to you and get your attention...i would never do nothing to harm you because i really love you and i do not want to lose you".
Be careful, she is a phyco, lucky you did not open that door he would had shook you down for sure.....
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Yea bros,
I found Juliana, now its time to play 'my game', shes been hoin since 1997. I cant count that high and dont like sloppy 100's! Shes toast.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]What is it with brazilian women being so skilled at fucking and blow jobs. And the enthusiasm they have aswell. I have never come across this with any other nationalities?[/QUOTE]They can also lie convincingly in several languages. It helps that WE want to believe. (She below posts.)
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]You can also find her in action at Mike in brazil site. I have some graphic action pics of her from there, (I'd post but they're a little to intense for some here. LOL): a DP scene w/BBC bigger than her. Amazing and impressive that she was able to take that double pounding. LOL
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]
She hangs out on the beach daily and is a regular at Help. She has a laugh that goes like ah ah ah ah ah. So I always knew when she was around. I don't have her pic but shes on brazilcupid by the name of Aulda. I blocked her from msn but she has changed her email afew time to try and contact me.
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Kool Kid, can you post up her fotos from Brazil cupid. I am not a member and it seems you cant search for a specific name on that site. It would be very beneficial to the board to know who this crack pot is. THX
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Kool Kid, can you post up her fotos from Brazil cupid. I am not a member and it seems you cant search for a specific name on that site. It would be very beneficial to the board to know who this crack pot is. THX[/QUOTE]I'm a member of Brazilcupid, bt I can'r find her account. It would be nice to identify who she is and what garotas she associates with. I've seen the garotas chirp each other with nextel phones while the work the Atlantica strip. When they are allow crammed up in one apartment, they tend to run in a pack, and they share notes about mongers like we share intellifence on them, or we should. If I get a problem garota, I definite will share it.
Thanks KK for your report.
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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]Hey guys just met a girl at brazilcupid, her name is Juliana (on line), when I asked what she did for a living, her reply was 'its complicated' no doubt that means 'the programma'. Anybody know her? She lives in coppacabana.
Vaughnyb[/QUOTE]Please take a look!
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Whats up people, I Was looking for something about GPs on Google and accidentaly found this Forum and noticed that some people needed Help/advices.
Well, I'm not local (brazil) but I've been living here for about 6 Years, I don't really like the country, I personally think it Sucks, the only good things are the beach and the Girls, anyways, I can speak some languages fluently including brazilian with Carioca Accent, and I felt like assisting people usa. Or where else.
Any doubts, look for me.
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I know Aulda
[quote=koolkid]i got chatting to quite a few women on brazilcupid before i came to brazil. one in particular kept sending me messages, telling me that she worked as a beauty therapsit! but i found it hard to believe as every other message was 'i love you', 'i miss you' or 'i'm waiting for you darling' after only a week of chatting to each other. lol
anyways i'm on the beach infront of othlon and this really black garota is stood in front of me giggling her massive ass. i walk down to the sea and she follows. it turns out that this is the beauty therapist! she does not recognise me at all! we start negotiations, and i get her down to 150 for 3 hours completa, for later in the evening
i go back to my apartment to double check her picture on brazilcupid and yes its her. she arrives later and we get down to it. her face is nothing nice but her booty is huge just like the porn star sky black at the moment. anyway after we're finished i say you are on brazilcupid arn't you and she goes quiet. i then show her my profile and the penny drops.
as it happens this chick turned out to be a right nightmare towards the end of my trip. i would be on the beach chatting to women and she would fly of the handle. she would go up to other garotas sat near to me and tell them who i was and to keep an eye on me. i was in balcony and she shows up. so i head down to mp and she follows. i was in help one night and her friend comes across saying that she really likes me. i go to talk to her to sort the shit out and she threatens me with the police if i go with anyone that night!
i have to say thanks to the guys at [url]http://www.amerioca.net/[/url] as they gave me the heads up afew times when she was loitering outside my apartment trying to come in, using the excuse i owed her money. the final straw was when i had just finished a great session with rose and she left at 3.30am, and at 4.30am the phsyco turns up downstairs with her friend and the police. i slept through the intercom buzzing and fairplay the doorman never let them up!
i was in ta on the last night but one, and she turns up and starts speaking to the girls on tables close to me and then she walks up and down the street like she is looking for someone. i didn't want to take any chances of getting shaken down by the police or anyone else for that matter, so i headed to balcony where i met the short haired chick (pics already posted).
she hangs out on the beach daily and is a regular at help. she has a laugh that goes like ah ah ah ah ah. so i always knew when she was around. i don't have her pic but shes on brazilcupid by the name of aulda. i blocked her from msn but she has changed her email afew time to try and contact me.
she sent me a instant message saying she loves me! i sent one back saying you brought the police to my apartment to take money from me at 4.30am! her response is;
"sim mas ele era meu amigo enao iria fazer nada com voce ele sabia da verdade era so para voce atender e falar com migo jamas eu iria fazer mul a voce por eu te quero te verdade nao queria te perder"
anyone care to translate?
i posting this report on her so other people don't get caught up in the shit i did.
still it was a fucking awsome holiday. what is it with brazilian women being so skilled at fucking and blow jobs. and the enthusiasm they have aswell. i have never come across this with any other nationalities?[/quote]i met aulda in september of 2007 at balcony. she ended up stalking me in fornt of my apartment and tried to scare away all my lady friends saying i had sex with her without a condom. she has been in spain for almost 1 year and recently came back to brazil in december 2008. i seen her last may and she tried to accuse me of having her child. she sent me picture to my email. the baby does not look like me. since i avoided her last may she has not called or emailed me. thank god! 1
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I know Juliana
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I met this girl on brazilcupid named Juliana. Anybody know her, she replied 'its complicated' when I asked what she did for work. She said she lives in copacabana with her girlfriend. Anybody know her?[/QUOTE]I met Juliana at Help in 2007. I have to tell you fellas a shocker. When I was in brasil back in 2007 I bought 2 xxx rated dvds. Guess whos was featured in the dvd taking on 2 well endowed brasilian men? Juliana
I admit she did the best sex scene. I was shocked when I realized it was her. She goes by the same name in the porno movie. If you want I can provide the name of the dvd.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]"sim mas ele era meu amigo enao iria fazer nada com voce ele sabia da verdade era so para voce atender e falar com migo jamas eu iria fazer mul a voce por eu te quero te verdade nao queria te perder"
Anyone care to translate?[/QUOTE]Translation:
"Yes, but he is my friend and he will not harm you, he did knew that it was only for you to take the phone and speak with me, I will never do something bad to you because I truly love you and don't want to lose you"
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[QUOTE=Shoesky]... If you want I can provide the name of the dvd.[/QUOTE]
Yes, thanks :)
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I'm a member of Brazilcupid, bt I can'r find her account. It would be nice to identify who she is and what garotas she associates with. I've seen the garotas chirp each other with nextel phones while the work the Atlantica strip. When they are allow crammed up in one apartment, they tend to run in a pack, and they share notes about mongers like we share intellifence on them, or we should. If I get a problem garota, I definite will share it.
Thanks KK for your report.[/QUOTE]
Check under the spelling Auda. There are 3 pics of her there. Looks like shes been to France aswell! Thanks for all the translations.
KK
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Check under the spelling Auda. There are 3 pics of her there. Looks like shes been to France aswell! Thanks for all the translations.
KK[/QUOTE]I found her picture. Her name is Auda. See uploaded photos. She sure got body. Does she do completa!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Check under the spelling Auda. There are 3 pics of her there. Looks like shes been to France aswell! Thanks for all the translations.
KK[/QUOTE]
How do you search my name? I dont see that feature on the site.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Check under the spelling Auda. There are 3 pics of her there. Looks like shes been to France aswell! Thanks for all the translations.
KK[/QUOTE]KK,
I posted her picture.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Looks like somebody beat auda with the ugly stick!!! How can you go all way to rio and screw a dog like that? No need for that when you have termas[/QUOTE]
Because I wanted to smash that bunda in! You don't always look at the mantelpiece when stoking the fire! And yes I enjoyed the termas also!
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Three Nights, Three Termas
my first time in rio. this forum helped a lot but i still did not know what to expect.
i stayed at the hotel arpoador inn in rio de janeiro. the place is not the most comfortable, safe, convenient, or cheap in rdj, but it is a reasonable approximation of all of the above. arpoador is a little corner of rdj, the rock that juts out into the bay and separates ipanema from copacabana. the point historically served as a military installation, kind of like the presidio in one short block, and i am in the garota de ipanama (girl from ipanema) park. two long blocks, and i am on avenida atlantica and the copacabana. staying in ipanema would be double the price, easily. even the copacabana would be more expensive. to stay in a place for less, i would need to be in a neighborhood that has fewer protections for tourists and less convenient. i took it as a good sign that a significant number of the guests are brazilians here on business. the internet is slow and is not included with the room.
my first night, i stopped into l’uomo. definitely unlike anywhere i’ve ever been before. the place is discretely tucked away upstairs in a shopping mall. i intentionally brought only enough for one 40 minute session and a cab home—about r$300. whether this was a mistake, i’m still not sure, but it definitely forced me to focus and make some tough choices.
mahlia immediately took a shine to me. the others were not so receptive. mahlia’s english was weak, but she was expressive and aggressive, a language that i could understand. we called a friend over to translate. kelly is much more european featured, and could pass for black irish on the street. she told me flat out that she preferred girls and would gladly go on a three way with mahlia, but seemed much less interested in me than her. i didn’t plan on a three-way after an earlier fiasco and mahlia was very eager and responsive. i went down on her first, and she writhed and moaned with great loud pleasure. after she was good and wet, i entered her, pulling her legs on my shoulders. this stretched her too much, and wet as she was, she still was unable to take all i had to give. i let her legs back down and slowly entered her again. i slowly worked my way in and she backed into me as her wet tight pussy wrapped around my throbbing member.
afterwards, another woman attached herself to me. i was unable to extract myself gracefully, so instead i gave her a massage. she reached under my robe and stroked my penis, getting me hard again. after going back to my locker, i steeled myself to give her the news. i explained in broken portuguese and simple english that i needed to go back to my hotel. with that, i kissed her hand and gazed upon a look of hurt and anger that haunted my dreams. the bill was r$270.
the second stop was the 4x4. after a hectic afternoon of shopping in the centro, i was ready for some relaxation. in the mid-afternoon, there were only about ten women working. reportedly the largest, the sprawling multi-level layout was confusing and disorienting. after a trip to the laundry room and other areas that appeared to be off-limits to guests, i found my way to the bar. when first i entered, there was only one bored-looking garota.
after talking briefly with a sweet and lovely young lady who had braces on her teeth, she just seemed a little too innocent. also, her english was more limited than my portuguese. her menu appeared to be pretty limited. i wanted someone who was more experienced. casting my eyes about, i spotted a statuesque blonde beauty with a distinct air of sophistication. her name sounded something like ingeja. (in-gay-ha). i found that she spoke some english
she asked where i had been and if i had plans to visit help or any of the other termas. i mentioned centaurus and ingeja said she worked there until last year. she quit because she did not like the attitude of the owners and advised against going there. it is overpriced, overrated, and she said that the women are not treated as well as where she is now. being with her gave me the bragging rights that i’d been with a centaurus garota, even if one who was perhaps seen by the owners as past her prime and no longer worked there. given that the price was over r$100 more than anywhere else, it didn’t seem worth it, even if it was the terma closest to my hotel.
my last day, i made a point to visit the botanical gardens (jardim botanico). afterwards, i went to the solarium. i arrived before opening time and came back. the place opened nearly 15 minutes late with only a couple of garotas working. they seemed listless and not terribly interesting. while waiting for the other garotas to show, i decided a massage would do me good. after the massage, i went upstairs again to the bar. a tall exotic dark-haired beauty caught my eye as she talked with another garota. pietra was her name. she came from manaus and was a hot amazonian. she slowly undressed me, teasing me with light strokes. i pushed her back on the bed, then went down on her, lifting her long legs back over her head. the tension built as we picked up speed. i slowly worked my way into her tight pussy and teased her in return. when she couldn’t stand it anymore, she began pulling my hips into her. after rolling on the narrow bed, we rolled off, i spun her around and entered from behind. faster and harder she wanted and faster and harder i went until the dam burst open. i slowly ground my hips into her round, firm ass. with that, she went into a long slow shivering and shuddering orgasm and fell forward. i pushed down on her and came while she was still convulsing. then she smiled, turned and kissed me, and said, ‘bad for business, now i’m not going to want to fuck the rest of the night.’ as we tried to cool off, soaked in sweat, she said i was better than most. i said the same about her.
rio is truly a wonderful city in every way. natural beauty, friendly people, rich culture, and very hot women all made for one of the greatest experiences in my life. as they say, i began thinking of my next trip back as i was getting on the plane to leave.
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NS 583 #203-4: Quick Report
Hi everyone,
Just to dispel any rumors to the contrary, both addresses listed in the title of this report are open-- one must go up one more flight of stairs to the 3rd floor (up past the gym) to find them. I'll report in more detail on these places (and the rest of my adventures) once I return.
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Rumor Starter
[QUOTE=Monger Man]Hi everyone,
Just to dispel any rumors to the contrary, both addresses listed in the title of this report are open-- one must go up one more flight of stairs to the 3rd floor (up past the gym) to find them. I'll report in more detail on these places (and the rest of my adventures) once I return.[/QUOTE]
I am probably the source of the rumor and quite simply, was wrong. Keep in mind that in Rio often times the first floor is T not 1. What had happened is rather than waiting for the elevator, I took the stairs up one flight and thought I was on the 2nd floor when actually I was on the 1st floor. What I saw was a total remodel and a different business which led me to believe they were closed.
#203 in particular is worth checking out. At least two girls who later went on to major Copa termas got their start there. The facility is not that great and prices not as low as Centro casas, but at least worth a look. Some guys have enjoyed #204, which is more like a little bar, but I never have found anyone worth the time there.
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Juliana DVD
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yes, thanks :)[/QUOTE]The dvs is called "Spanish Fly Pussy Search #10"
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Looks like somebody beat auda with the ugly stick!!! How can you go all way to rio and screw a dog like that? No need for that when you have termas[/QUOTE]
LINK please!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]LINK please![/QUOTE]Hey Braqvo,
I posted her on the photo gallery connected to this thread. ISG doesn't allow outside photo links.
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Paris Cafe? And Others --
Anyone have any experience with this location? Is it a termas or a strip club? I went to their website and there was a wiskey club and then a swing club -- is this the same place?
Also strip clubs in Rio, are they even worth it? Can you pick them off the stage and then have a session?
Is it possible to bring a GDP with you to these places (strip clubs) to make the night even more interesting?
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pure fucken ugly
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I found her picture. Her name is Auda. See uploaded photos. She sure got body. Does she do completa![/QUOTE]I am sorry mongers if this offends you. But that is the ugliest/ semi retarted looking thing I have seen in Rio, it also looks like a man.
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[quote=eeyore]. i went down on her first, and she writhed and moaned with great loud pleasure. after she was good and wet, i entered her, pulling her legs on my shoulders. this stretched her too much, and wet as she was, she still was unable to take all i had to give. i let her legs back down and slowly entered her again. i slowly worked my way in and she backed into me as her wet tight pussy wrapped around my throbbing member.
casting my eyes about, i spotted a statuesque blonde beauty with a distinct air of sophistication. her name sounded something like ingeja. (in-gay-ha).
a tall exotic dark-haired beauty caught my eye as she talked with another garota. pietra was her name. she came from manaus and was a hot amazonian. she slowly undressed me, teasing me with light strokes. i pushed her back on the bed, then went down on her, lifting her long legs back over her head. the tension built as we picked up speed. i slowly worked my way into her tight pussy and teased her in return. when she couldn’t stand it anymore, she began pulling my hips into her. after rolling on the narrow bed, we rolled off, i spun her around and entered from behind. faster and harder she wanted and faster and harder i went until the dam burst open. i slowly ground my hips into her round, firm ass. with that, she went into a long slow shivering and shuddering orgasm and fell forward. i pushed down on her and came while she was still convulsing. quote]dude, you have go to stop reading penthouse forum letters!
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bf/ gf routine
Just spent the last few days with a garota doing the bf/gf thing. I di the itiapu beach tour along with another short trip to Ilha de Paqueta. Romantic trips and lots of screwing, but its time for a change in the pattern.
I want to set up a threesome with a couple of real sexy hot mulatas. Not trashy ones. Anyone have suggestions or good references. Thank you.
* Did I foget to mention it would be nice for them to be safadas as well :)
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Looks like somebody beat auda with the ugly stick!!! How can you go all way to rio and screw a dog like that? No need for that when you have termas[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]I am sorry mongers if this offends you. But that is the ugliest/ semi retarted looking thing I have seen in Rio, it also looks like a man.[/QUOTE]
If you guys don't find Auda attractive, why don't you just close the window, move on, and keep your fucking mouth shut? Your comments add absolutely nothing to this forum. There are a lot of pictures posted here in which I don't think the girl is especially attractive, but if the poster liked her and, more importantly, derived pleasure from her, what business is it of anyone else's?
BTW, how many photos have either of you guys posted recently, or even not so recently? After scanning your recent posts, I couldn't find any. It seems that what you mostly do is ask questions, comment on other posts, and in the case of Funkignitor, discuss politics. So I suggest that you save your judgments for yourselves.
Incidentally, I thought Auda looked fine.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]How do you search my name? I dont see that feature on the site.[/QUOTE]
I think she removed the photos.
There are none there now and it says she last logged on June 30.
I did a search of Rio, 18-30, African race and she was in the range of 121-140, about 6 pages into the search.
TJ
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I think she removed the photos.
There are none there now and it says she last logged on June 30.
I did a search of Rio, 18-30, African race and she was in the range of 121-140, about 6 pages into the search.
TJ[/QUOTE]Hey TJ, and others looking hard, I posted her picture in the ISG photo gallery.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I think she removed the photos.
There are none there now and it says she last logged on June 30.
I did a search of Rio, 18-30, African race and she was in the range of 121-140, about 6 pages into the search.
TJ[/QUOTE]for AUDA's photo!
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Posted on: 06-29-09
Posted in: Brazil
Posted by: Jamaicanceo
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Leave it alone, move on.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]If you guys don't find Auda attractive, why don't you just close the window, move on[/QUOTE]I agree with Lorenzo. Comments on another poster's taste in women is pointless. It's not your type, so be hit. Don't hate on a person because he happens to find pleasure with this lady.
Lorenzo provided valuable information, be happy he shared his experience.
Quit being small minded.
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Auda (by Kool Kid)
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I found her picture. Her name is Auda. See uploaded photos. She sure got body. Does she do completa![/QUOTE]
Good work J-ceo.
Glad you posted her pic so everyone can see who to stay away from.
Kol Kid - good informative post also. Thats what the forum is all about - posting experiences. The bad ones need to posted so we can be aware.
I have seen her around TA and inside Help many times. She usually had a bad disposition and a bad attitude to go with her bad face.
I said hello one evening as I passed by her (just being polite), and she gave me a ugly look. I asked her whats the look for and she said something dumb. Everytime after that she always had a ugly look on her face whenever I saw her. So what do you do - nothing! Just ignore her like she isn't even there.
Thanks for the information. PL99
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Hoes advocate
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]If you guys don't find Auda attractive, why don't you just close the window, move on, and keep your fucking mouth shut? Your comments add absolutely nothing to this forum. There are a lot of pictures posted here in which I don't think the girl is especially attractive, but if the poster liked her and, more importantly, derived pleasure from her, what business is it of anyone else's?
BTW, how many photos have either of you guys posted recently, or even not so recently? After scanning your recent posts, I couldn't find any. It seems that what you mostly do is ask questions, comment on other posts, and in the case of Funkignitor, discuss politics. So I suggest that you save your judgments for yourselves.
Incidentally, I thought Auda looked fine.[/QUOTE]Coming from the man who likes BBFS with dogs like this. Is this another low life ***** that you are paying for silicons for? Sending alimony to? This mutt is trying to shank down fellow mongers and all you can do is defend her. And by the way I only post photo's for the purpose off warning people off low life mutts like this one, but I don't spend a week or 2 a year in Rio like you.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Looks like somebody beat auda with the ugly stick!!! How can you go all way to rio and screw a dog like that? No need for that when you have termas[/QUOTE]
Why are you so concerned about how someone else spends their time and money? You're gonna ruin this board like that because people are not gonna want to post their experiences because of petty stuff like this.
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Post all experiences
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Why are you so concerned about how someone else spends their time and money? You're gonna ruin this board like that because people are not gonna want to post their experiences because of petty stuff like this.[/QUOTE]
Post all of the experiences that you may have had, being good or bad, I can learn from the good ones and the bad ones. Do not let anyone deter you. Thanks for the posts you have shared with us.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Why are you so concerned about how someone else spends their time and money? You're gonna ruin this board like that because people are not gonna want to post their experiences because of petty stuff like this.[/QUOTE]If we don't share information about conniving gdps, we can all be in trouble. In fact, if you are not a native or speak the language, you are a potential victim.
Many gdps will charge you for sex, then expect to claim you as theirs. Find them, fuck them and forget them.
All gdp take advantage of your inability to track them. Auda is probably sucking politia dicks left and right, so she can get a bad cop to help her harass a monger while in Rio. So we should share bad experiences like KK, instead of discouraging his posts.
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Aulda
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Why are you so concerned about how someone else spends their time and money? You're gonna ruin this board like that because people are not gonna want to post their experiences because of petty stuff like this.[/QUOTE]Personally I don't think Aulda is great looking by any means but she has a solid bunda and a flat stomach. Sometimes I over look good looking woman and prefer a woman with a fat ass. I am not planning on reproducing. Who cares what I stick my penus inside for pleasure. Of course there are much prettier woman in brasil besides Aulda. But when your drunk and it is 04:00 am in the morning with not much to choose from sometimes you lower your standards. how many of you were drunk and went hoggin before?
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[quote=shoesky]personally i don't think aulda is great looking by any means but she has a solid bunda and a flat stomach. sometimes i over look good looking woman and prefer a woman with a fat ass. i am not planning on reproducing. who cares what i stick my penus inside for pleasure. of course there are much prettier woman in brasil besides aulda. but when your drunk and it is 04:00 am in the morning with not much to choose from sometimes you lower your standards. how many of you were drunk and went hoggin before?[/quote]finkignitor is right, all ass is not go ass. if you have a broad trying to make it hard for one monger she'll do it to another. i agree that late at night she will be someone to screw, but she sounds like the type who'l have you locked up for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Exactly this moron Lorenzo is saying how beautiful she is after she calling Rio's swinest on mongers for no damn reason. This Lorenzo is obviously buttsore for some unknown reason about this topic.
AS for this iceberg slim clown, get a clue ok? I am hating? That is the dumbest backwards azz type mentallity I have ever read. This nasty bitcch is trying to get people locked the fuk up and all your simple ass can say is I am hating? Go back to listening to lil wayne and stfu.[/QUOTE]
Before you start calling people morons, consider taking a course in Remedial English so that you can at least express your drivel in a coherent and intelligible manner. You and your sidekick JohnnyBraz can engage in all the ad hominem attacks you want (although I'm sure neither of you have the slightest idea what that term means), but neither of you have addressed the substance of what I said.
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A Funky Fool Looking For Attention
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]What a nerd go back to your school teaching job you male teacher. Your buttsore about this situation for some unknown reason.[/QUOTE]Lorenzo, this poser, Funk, probably has never been to Brasil. And I'm sure he could not get a decent girl to put up with is ignorant, small minded self. He is just looking for attention.
Again, thanks for your report. It reminds us how far some girls will go to keep their claws into a guy they know is good.
Funk, show us how ignorant and petty some guys can be.
Come to think of it, Auda and Funk would make a nice couple.
I'm finished with this fool.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]What a nerd go back to your school teaching job you male teacher. Your buttsore about this situation for some unknown reason.[/QUOTE]The comments that JohnnyBraz and you made had nothing to do about warning the members of this board about a scam. You guys made derogatory juvenile comments strictly about the looks of the GDP in the photo. Not sure what you were trying to achieve. Other then get a laugh. Which didn't happen.
To each his own when it comes to his taste in women. If you don't like what you see in a photo, close it and move on. There are plenty of other photos for you to look at on this website. If you have important info that will help fellow mongers here stay clear of trouble. Post it.
Otherwise. Can we get off this topic? I have found this site to be a great resource for my new hobby and will post a detailed report of my past recent trips when I return from Rio in a few weeks. The reports, maps and advice that can be found here is invaluable. These juvenile comments not so much.
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Round 3
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]What a nerd go back to your school teaching job you male teacher. Your buttsore about this situation for some unknown reason.[/QUOTE]
Can we maybe move this to a new thread and get back to what the forum is here for? The info from the story has gone and now all thats left is the personal abuse. Funny though some of it may be, its not the reason why the vast majority of people are here.
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BA 85 Challenge
Well, I am gonna take the challenge today, 1 girl on each floor. I didnt do any girls yesterday, so I should be all set.
Chris H
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[QUOTE=Chris H]Well, I am gonna take the challenge today, 1 girl on each floor. I didnt do any girls yesterday, so I should be all set.
Chris H[/QUOTE]What's the BA 85 challenge?
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]What's the BA 85 challenge?[/QUOTE]
1 girl on each floor..............
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Failed
I failed...not even close to reaching the goal o 5 girls, 1 on each floor. I could only do 2 girls, 1 from floor 2 and 1 from floor 3.
Chris H
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[QUOTE=Chris H]I failed...not even close to reaching the goal o 5 girls, 1 on each floor. I could only do 2 girls, 1 from floor 2 and 1 from floor 3.
Chris H[/QUOTE]
It's harder than it sounds, isn't it? When I first started going to VM I was delighted when I managed 3 or 4 girls in the same number of hours. I've since managed to beat that record but there's a lot of choice, especially on a good night. With BA the claustrophobia kicks in a bit with me and I don't think I've ever done more than a couple. It's too tempting to nip round the corner to Uru24 or Rua Carioca and see what's on offer. But I'm sure it must be doable. Start early in the day and carry on till the peak time girls arrive and spice things up.
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[QUOTE=Chris H]I failed...not even close to reaching the goal o 5 girls, 1 on each floor. I could only do 2 girls, 1 from floor 2 and 1 from floor 3.
Chris H[/QUOTE]
We might have run into each other today.... I was there this afternoon and found that the most doable girls were on the 3rd floor.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]When I first started going to VM I was delighted when I managed 3 or 4 girls in the same number of hours. I've since managed to beat that record but there's a lot of choice, especially on a good night. [/QUOTE]
A lot of choice in VM!? I was there 2 days ago and almost found one, but she aged 10+ years before my eyes.
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Bel Prazer
Was there today around 1:30 pm. I ring the door bell, knock a few times. A brazilian buss. man is using his cell calling the place, and nothing. We look at each other in shock.
We chat briefly, and he tells me that there is another place similar to this one in the building next door. We head over to building 181, and up to the 10th floor. Same deal......what the hell is going in? So we go down stairs to the lobby and he asks the guy in the front desk if he knows whats up. Yep, you got it......police has shut down the massage places in both building as of 5:30 wed. afternoon.
Damn, I really was in the mood to bang Susana. But thats the wonderful thing about this city.......there are still plenty of choices.
So I went to Flamengo, headed torwards Barao do flamengo hotel, called an agency and took care of buss.
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]A lot of choice in VM!? I was there 2 days ago and almost found one, but she aged 10+ years before my eyes.[/QUOTE]
You really have to work at it in VM, which is not everyone's cup of tea. The doable/non-doable ration is worse than other places generally. Many of the uglies will be more obviously on display. Many of the better lookers only on at peak times and even then mostly taken. An advantage over other places is sheer quantity - which is the context of my reference to it vs BA. Plus you can walk about unhindered without navigating that tiny staircase.
There have been discussions on the board at various times regarding quality at VM. I posted pictures and I think most agreed that the best women of the bunch were VM not 4x4, but that was only my experiences. Most people will find more doables and faster at 4x4. BA85 is somewhere inbetween (and much cheaper than 4x4 if you want to do four or five!) I think VM is a lot to do with whether you like the atmosphere. If you do, you'll get to know the place and how to get the best from it. If you don't, I suppose there's not much point - stick to the termas or Help.
[i]Hoping it's not stating the obvious - VM is 24/7 but peak times are late evening I reckon, especially Thu to Sat. A good way to find the best girls (apart from luck) is to drink at one bar for quite a while. When the good lookers appear you can try to bag them before the next person does. Bear in mind also some of them are picky (seeing as everyone pays the same, if they are constantly busy they might as well be). I don't mean to infer that I'm young or good looking - I'm not. My Porto and dance skills are pretty average. I never tip. But I have learnt how to pay girls attention to make them feel special - at least in the relatively uncompetitive mongering market.[/i]
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[QUOTE=Christopherd] It's too tempting to nip round the corner to Uru24 or Rua Carioca and see what's on offer. But I'm sure it must be doable. Start early in the day and carry on till the peak time girls arrive and spice things up.[/QUOTE]
Whats it like at Uru24, never heard of it? Also what is the best time to hit BA85, peak time for girls?
Thanks Christopherd
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]We might have run into each other today.... I was there this afternoon and found that the most doable girls were on the 3rd floor.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you are right,especially that blond with the white on!!!
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]The comments that JohnnyBraz and you made had nothing to do about warning the members of this board about a scam. You guys made derogatory juvenile comments strictly about the looks of the GDP in the photo. Not sure what you were trying to achieve. Other then get a laugh. Which didn't happen.
To each his own when it comes to his taste in women. If you don't like what you see in a photo, close it and move on. There are plenty of other photos for you to look at on this website. If you have important info that will help fellow mongers here stay clear of trouble. Post it.
Otherwise. Can we get off this topic? I have found this site to be a great resource for my new hobby and will post a detailed report of my past recent trips when I return from Rio in a few weeks. The reports, maps and advice that can be found here is invaluable. These juvenile comments not so much.[/QUOTE]Have any off you took the time to think that iff a gdp wasn't so fucking ugly she wouldn't have to set mongers up with police to get them robbed.
Lorenzo, you don't mind this as you openly admit sending money to gdps when you are not with them. You are a weak individual. Don't bring other mongers down to your level.
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185 Branco casas
[QUOTE=Mangera]Was there today around 1:30 pm. I ring the door bell, knock a few times. A brazilian buss. man is using his cell calling the place, and nothing. We look at each other in shock.
So we go down stairs to the lobby and he asks the guy in the front desk if he knows whats up. Yep, you got it......police has shut down the massage places in both building as of 5:30 wed. afternoon.[/QUOTE]Is this permanent or ? I was becoming a fan of Centro casas!
I carry Sperto's list with me at all times in case a casa is busy, or I just feel like a random selection.
All these mongers who are fighting down there, come on, peace, we pay to come here and talk about finding talented garotas..to talk about foda, not to hear you waging a battle with a fellow monger. Save the rage for pounding a gatinha's culo or something productive like that!
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Exploring
[QUOTE=Monger Man]We might have run into each other today. I was there this afternoon and found that the most doable girls were on the 3rd floor.[/QUOTE] I was there yesterday afternoon too, around 2pm so I might have walked by you guys as well!
Mangera, that sucks about BelPrazer, it was on my short list for stops tomorrow. It's starting to look like I'll be doing some exploring. I found a place on GPGuia which looks promising. It appears to be run by the Flavia Massagens people and is fairly close to Vila Mimosa. If I do go I'll be sure to share the wealth!
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[quote=mangera]was there today around 1:30 pm. i ring the door bell, knock a few times. a brazilian buss. man is using his cell calling the place, and nothing. we look at each other in shock.
we chat briefly, and he tells me that there is another place similar to this one in the building next door. we head over to building 181, and up to the 10th floor. same deal......what the hell is going in? so we go down stairs to the lobby and he asks the guy in the front desk if he knows whats up. yep, you got it......police has shut down the massage places in both building as of 5:30 wed. afternoon.[/quote]heard on the grapevine 9 places closed 41 ladies and 5 clients arrested later released. be careful.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Whats it like at Uru24, never heard of it? Also what is the best time to hit BA85, peak time for girls?
Thanks Christopherd[/QUOTE]
Uruguiana24 - Lower life version of BA85 with wider staircase.
Peak time BA85 - opinions vary but when people come out of work or are on lunch break are busiest times so most girls on. Some just come in late afternoon to get the post-work crowd - this is when all floors are open and getting up and down the staircase is like auditioning for a sweaty sardine can.
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[QUOTE=Chris H]Yeah you are right,especially that blond with the white on!!![/QUOTE]
Or the other blonde in the red bikini. A little thick around the middle, but thankfully only in the right places. I hope she's still there today....
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]You really have to work at it in VM, which is not everyone's cup of tea. The doable/non-doable ration is worse than other places generally. Many of the uglies will be more obviously on display. Many of the better lookers only on at peak times and even then mostly taken. An advantage over other places is sheer quantity - which is the context of my reference to it vs BA. Plus you can walk about unhindered without navigating that tiny staircase.
There have been discussions on the board at various times regarding quality at VM. I posted pictures and I think most agreed that the best women of the bunch were VM not 4x4, but that was only my experiences. Most people will find more doables and faster at 4x4. BA85 is somewhere inbetween (and much cheaper than 4x4 if you want to do four or five!) I think VM is a lot to do with whether you like the atmosphere. If you do, you'll get to know the place and how to get the best from it. If you don't, I suppose there's not much point - stick to the termas or Help.
[i]Hoping it's not stating the obvious - VM is 24/7 but peak times are late evening I reckon, especially Thu to Sat. A good way to find the best girls (apart from luck) is to drink at one bar for quite a while. When the good lookers appear you can try to bag them before the next person does. Bear in mind also some of them are picky (seeing as everyone pays the same, if they are constantly busy they might as well be). I don't mean to infer that I'm young or good looking - I'm not. My Porto and dance skills are pretty average. I never tip. But I have learnt how to pay girls attention to make them feel special - at least in the relatively uncompetitive mongering market.[/i][/QUOTE]
Christopherd,
Thanks for your perspective. VM is of course an acquired taste and a very unique experience above and beyond mongering; I guess I just didn't heed this idea when I was there.
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Prices
Can someone direct me to a list or tell me what and hour with a girl cost and the average cost of a safe hotel in Rio?
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Your a punk coward. I see how you are trying to make this about you 2 clowns when it is about the nasty scum ho who likes to sing to pigs. You talk about small minds yet you steal someone's nickname. Listen you simple ass punk get a life.[/QUOTE]We've had a enough of you. Knock off the abusive posts here and in private.
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From Balcony in April
Here are 2 woman I met from Balcony. Both had nice bodys but service was just average. They tried to say all the right things but when it was time to perform it was sort of lame. The darker skined girl was a better performer.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Lorenzo, you don't mind this as you openly admit sending money to gdps when you are not with them. You are a weak individual. Don't bring other mongers down to your level.[/QUOTE]
Let's set the record straight. I sent money to exactly one former gdp that I had a 4-year relationship with and that I stayed with when I visited Rio. So in a sense I was "keeping" her. She has since returned to "o programa." I have admitted that this was a mistake, and I posted this information to keep others from making the same mistake, i.e., trusting a gdp. So exactly how does this make me weak? I think you are the one who is weak, but your weakness is in your cerebral wattage, or lack thereof.
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Woman from VM in May
She had a nice body!
She tried to hussle me for more money.
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I was in BA 85 daily for most of the last week and a half. It seems the best quality girls are on floors 1 (2 cute blondes, black girl Carol, and Luhma), and floor 4 (black girl kelli and Melinie). Floor 3 has one blonde and floor 5 is a bit rough. Floor 2 is still very rough.
I am a little worried that gringos are going here now. I was on floor one and overheard a girl I have known for a year sputter out, "whatz doo youuu wants," to a guy. It seems they now expect there to be some gringos in there. When I first started going they NEVER tried to speak English, not one. This time one sat down and asked me if I was staying in Copacabana. Oh boy!
I got up and went to another floor immediately! If I want to be at Meia Pataca then I would be there.
I also got asked for a tip twice this time! Oh, boy!
Carol gives nice BBBJs. Luhma has long, black curly hair and a big jiggle butt. The two blondes on floor one are nice looking.
Kelli on floor 4 has a nice sized butt, though she claims not to do anal.
I never paid more than R$15 for 15 minutes. Usually I did two girls a day and drank 5 beers, amounting to R45. To be honest only once in over 10 days did I pull a Copa girl. I was usually so drunk and sex-out (for R45) that I was in my "right" mind by the time I hit Copa for the night and could turn girls down.
TJ
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Aulda
More fotos of psyco with big sexy ass.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I was in BA 85 daily for most of the last week and a half. It seems the best quality girls are on floors 1 (2 cute blondes, black girl Carol, and Luhma), and floor 4 (black girl kelli and Melinie). Floor 3 has one blonde and floor 5 is a bit rough. Floor 2 is still very rough.
TJ[/QUOTE]BA 85 open on weekends or just weekdays?
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Flavia Massagens
Went to Flavia Massagens today. A few days ago went to Rio Branco 185 as indicated in another report but no cigar. A google search indicated Rio Branco 181, sala 1506. Went there an waited outside with two other guys. No luck. Outside the building, I called them and they indicated they moved to sala 1006. Not sure if that's because of the raid (s). I didn't bother asking.
The receptionist was real cool. I woulda done her if she was available. She knew it too. 4 girls were available. I asked about Brenda or Debora but neither were available. Only looked for them b/c I was sure they were completa & oral completa based off of the cross-reference on gpguia. Wasn't important b/c Little Richard was stiff off of Vitamin C, but I really couldn't feel anything because the piece I pulled out of Help the night before banged my brains out all night and morning.
Anyhow. I chose Duda. She isn't listed on the website. Nice caramel complexion. Big carioca bunda. Really, really cute face. B cups with above avg. Areolas. Some tattoos, but no childbearing marks (though she has 2). About 160lbs but not much stomach. She started with a great BBBJ. The cooch was so wet that when I started to finger her during the BJ, I accidentally slipped into her cuzinho. A surprise one shouldn't spring unsuspectingly on a chick giving you a BJ.
Well. Kudos to Duda b/c I didn't think I could get a nut off in my current condition. But. She rode me every way imaginable for 40 minutes. She took a break by blowing me again for 10 minutes. I wasn't too demanding, but I'm sure she would have taken it in the mouth if I wanted. Not sure about anal, tho.
1 hour for R$110 and they take full payment via credit card. You can get a 1 hour dupla for R$150. Great value IMHO. The accommodations are bare but larger than the cabines in 4x4. Decent sized room with a queen bed. Was going to visit 4x4 on my last day (Monday) but this is making me think twice.
Happy punting.
Do
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]BA 85 open on weekends or just weekdays?[/QUOTE]
BA 85 is open on Saturdays. Usually there are 1 or 2 floors open. ON Saturdays, floor 2 is always open. Floor one is open quite often but usually staffed by girls from the other floors, especially from floor 3.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Asstroglide]I was there yesterday afternoon too, around 2pm so I might have walked by you guys as well!
Mangera, that sucks about BelPrazer, it was on my short list for stops tomorrow. It's starting to look like I'll be doing some exploring. I found a place on GPGuia which looks promising. It appears to be run by the Flavia Massagens people and is fairly close to Vila Mimosa. If I do go I'll be sure to share the wealth![/QUOTE]
181 Rio B. is Flavia Massage....thats the second place I visited that was shut down as well. But there is good news, both places are up and runnning again. But they are short on staff. So give it a week or so before you make a vist to either place.
By the way, I am sure they are back to work cause I called B.P. and I banged a garota at Flavia Massage. Laters!
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My experiences thus far
What's up everybody. I'm currently partaking in my first ever trip to Rio de Janeiro and I thought it would be good to share some of my experiences so far as a complete newbie. I went on a little adventure earlier and I'm glad that I did. This is my first report so bear with me.
Yesterday I gave myself a little tour of Centro. I wanted to know exactly where BA85 and 4x4 were as well as the casas de massagem. Unfortunatly as this was a somewhat impromptu tour I had forgotten to bring Sperto's map, and without it I didn't have much of a chance finding the places that didn't have their addresses in their name...
After finding BA85 and 4x4 I decided that I might as well check out BA85 since I was there and I hadn't brought enough money with me to venture into 4x4.
Newbie take on BA85:
Wow, it was not what I had in mind. Loud music, good. Lots of garotas, better. My very limited Portuguese, bad. Treacherous stairs, worst. I came in wanting to take my time and find someone good. I remembered hearing bad things about the first floor so I skipped it my first time through and went exploring. There are definitely some good ones in there but you have to look, and I would suggest getting a good stretch in prior to entering. I ended up going up and down those stais so many times that I caught a cramp in my calf and I'm in good shape. I figured that was a sign, so I went looking for some of the garotas that had caught my eye during one of my climbs.
I found one, but a combination of nerves and tiredness prevented me from asking her name. She was on the 4th floor, if I remember correctly, and was wearing a leopard print one piece that showed off her bunda nicely. We talk for honestly a minute, the language barrier is strong with this one. And I'm not getting answers that I like from the few questions that I could bring myself to remember. But I liked her bunda and I was ready to leave so I figured, what's R$15 and went for it.
She offered the bathroom, it was pretty gross so I pretty much was in and out of there. The cabine was small but adequate and the bed was better than I had imagined. Service was mechanical and everything was covered. It was nothing special. But I couldn't really expect more from someone I didn't even take the time to get to know. I finished up and left.
Overall, I believe that this is a place that could grow on you, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as a newbie's first trip. I found it a little daunting and knowing practically no Portuguese with all the locals that were there was not a good thing. I'm sure a couple guys asked me about another floor or told me to pass them on the stairs, but instead I would just nod and smile. Once I have a better grasp of the language I may return but not during this trip.
Tijuca Massagens (Adventure):
Now for my adventure. Last night I was too tired to go out and instead decided to do some research for today and call it an early night. I checked out a couple places and found this place while browsing gpguia, [url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/[/url]. It is located in Maracanã at Av. Paula e Souza, 214. I couldn't find any reference to it on here and decided that since it seemed to have some good reviews there I would check it out and share a gringo's perspective.
When you arrive they buzz you in (close the door unless you happen to like having Brazilian garotas screaming "fecha la porta" at you) and you enter a nicely sized casa that unfortunately smells slightly of smoke. They take you into a small room with comfortable couches and bring in all of the girls that are available. Now a quick notice, the pics on the site are photoshopped and I mean photoshopped... Not to say that they aren't attractive, just not as attractive as they are on the site. There were about 8-10 garotas, I honestly was concentrating so hard on the ones that I liked from the site and that the ones that I liked in person that I forgot to count. I settled on Beatriz. They ask you how long, R$50 for 30 and R$90 for an hour. They also have a half hour dupla for R$75 and hour dupla for R$150. I went with 30 and up we went.
She is 23, has a very pretty face, nice lips, great bunda, and speaks enough English for us to be able to converse with my broken Portuguese. The room was nice albeit a little smokey. Bed was big and comfortable and she covered it with a clean sheet. There was also a massage table and what may have been a love chair, I'm not quite sure what it was. She offered a shower and towel before which I accepted, and she did the same. A sign said no xia xia in the showers so I didn't ask to join. After that we got to business.
She started with a good bbbj, which lead to one pop which she said could go about anywhere. I asked about her mouth and I'm sure that she would have been fine with it but I didn't feel like pushing it. Then more bbbj between lots of kissing to some foda. She started on top and then we switched to doggy. It was nice watching that bunda bounce around. I ended up popping twice in my 30 and I'm sure that she would have been happy to go again but I was satisfied and wanted to save some for later just in case. I asked about completa and she said she did from time to time but I didn't push for it. All in all she is a really nice and cool girl. I didn't ask about pictures, sorry guys. I'm kinda kicking myself about it now. I'm sure she would have been down...
Anyways, about the casa. I got there around 12:30 and it was really quiet, I was the only guy there but most if not all of the girls were there. I really don't think that this place sees a lot of gringos. They seemed a little taken aback when I told them that I wasn't Brazilian. I enjoyed my time there and would recommend it if you're feeling adventurous. It's a little cheaper than the centro casas, but it's also a little harder to find if you're not familiar with the area, which I'm not. Also I'm not sure if this is the best area to wander around aimlessly and alone. I never felt uncomfortable, but I may also just be blissfully oblivious... I haven't had the opportunity to get to the centro ones so I can't give a comparison, but I'm sure that the service is at least as good and they were a lot less crowded. I'd love to do a comparison if I ever make it to one of the centro casas now that I know they are indeed open.
Almost forgot, here's some quick and sloppy directions for those who are interested: Take the Metro Line 1 to Estacio, change to line 2 and get off at São Crastovão. Exit the metro, cross the bridge and head in the same direction that the Metro was going. When you come up to the block with the stadium make a left and then a quick right onto Av. Paula e Sousa. I didn't catch the name of the street that you first turn on but it is the one directly before the stadium. The address is 214 and it has a large metal door with a buzzer.
Anyways, that's all for now. I'd be happy to answer any questions and accept any suggestions for future reports that anyone may have. Thanks for reading my tome!
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I was in BA 85 daily for most of the last week and a half. It seems the best quality girls are on floors 1 (2 cute blondes, black girl Carol, and Luhma), and floor 4 (black girl kelli and Melinie). Floor 3 has one blonde and floor 5 is a bit rough. Floor 2 is still very rough.
I am a little worried that gringos are going here now. I was on floor one and overheard a girl I have known for a year sputter out, "whatz doo youuu wants," to a guy. It seems they now expect there to be some gringos in there. When I first started going they NEVER tried to speak English, not one. This time one sat down and asked me if I was staying in Copacabana. Oh boy!
I got up and went to another floor immediately! If I want to be at Meia Pataca then I would be there.
I also got asked for a tip twice this time! Oh, boy!
Carol gives nice BBBJs. Luhma has long, black curly hair and a big jiggle butt. The two blondes on floor one are nice looking.
Kelli on floor 4 has a nice sized butt, though she claims not to do anal.
I never paid more than R$15 for 15 minutes. Usually I did two girls a day and drank 5 beers, amounting to R45. To be honest only once in over 10 days did I pull a Copa girl. I was usually so drunk and sex-out (for R45) that I was in my "right" mind by the time I hit Copa for the night and could turn girls down.
TJ[/QUOTE]The first time I went to ba 85 was during a 3 week trip around carnival 2008. Some days I wake up really early and head into centro, there is a place there where I can get near bank rate for australian dollars, ie. Copa rate 1.20 brl to aud, centro 1.55 brl to aud. Big difference. It was too early to head to 4x4 so I went to ba 85 after hearing about it from christopherd and sperto. Had a ball, even took a gdp back to copa from there. Each trip since I have always poped in there. Great place. Alot of mongers may think that I am rude for comenting about not so pretty gdp's (asking copa prices, especially mp.) but in my opinion if you are going to take a mp, ta or help girl she must be good looking, otherwise go to centro and pay the prices brazilians pay for sex. Ba 85 has similar quality to mp. They may not give you the illusion that you are there girl friend like mp girls, but you are paying for sex, and thats what you get. Girls in centro are shy, it takes a bit off courage for them to ask you to buy them a drink, at mp there friends will try and order anything to put on your bill. Copa girls have it too easy.
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Termas 4x4 / L'uomo - a question
Maybe someone with experience can answer me about the behaviour of garotas in the above Termas. Its my first experience in Rio, so am on a learning path.
Me and my friend both took girls at 4x4 and L'uomo at around the same time and for the same length of time.
So we have a magnificent sessions with the babes, and then we come out and me and my friend meet at the bar wearing the uniform (robes, I love em).
So we enjoy the post session buzz, have a drink and chat about the experience in the bar. We were there for almost an hour enjoying the view of all the other garotas. Was hoping to see our garotas to buy em a drink etc.
The ones that we had, didnt seem to return back to the bar area again and it was around 10PM.
I expected them to come back after they fixed up their hair and faces and got rid of the JBF look. Say back in 30 min would be reasonable.
Is that usual?
Just curious.
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GDP returning to bar
[QUOTE=Safadinho]Maybe someone with experience can answer me about the behaviour of garotas in the above Termas. Its my first experience in Rio, so am on a learning path.
Me and my friend both took girls at 4x4 and L'uomo at around the same time and for the same length of time.
So we have a magnificent sessions with the babes, and then we come out and me and my friend meet at the bar wearing the uniform (robes, I love em).
So we enjoy the post session buzz, have a drink and chat about the experience in the bar. We were there for almost an hour enjoying the view of all the other garotas. Was hoping to see our garotas to buy em a drink etc.
The ones that we had, didnt seem to return back to the bar area again and it was around 10PM.
I expected them to come back after they fixed up their hair and faces and got rid of the JBF look. Say back in 30 min would be reasonable.
Is that usual?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]It is normal for the girls to go back to the bar to seek you out but not automatic. It could have been any number of reasons why they didn't appear.
Do you know when they were scheduled to leave? Some 4x4 girls leave at 10.
The Luomo girl might have been eating.
4x4 is huge. She could have been at the Whiskeria.
They do seem to spend a very long time (unnecessarily in my opionion) doing their makeup and hair.
All that being said, I have found that if you are a regular at the termas or with the girl they will seek you out whenever possible, almost to the point of annoyance if you want to get with a lot of different girls.
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[QUOTE=Safadinho]We were there for almost an hour enjoying the view of all the other garotas. Was hoping to see our garotas to buy em a drink etc.
The ones that we had, didnt seem to return back to the bar area again and it was around 10PM.
I expected them to come back after they fixed up their hair and faces and got rid of the JBF look. Say back in 30 min would be reasonable.
Is that usual?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]If the bar was crowded you could have simply missed them or they could have been grabbed for another session. I seen that happen a lot at 4X4. A girl will barely making back into the boite before being snatched by a guy who had been waiting for her to return.
I would say the likely reason they didn't return at Luomo's is that they were eating, as mentioned before, or they decided that they did not need to work anymore for the night. I have known girls that will simply stop working for the evening once they have reached a certain amount of sessions for the day.
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[QUOTE=Asstroglide]What's up everybody. I'm currently partaking in my first ever trip to Rio de Janeiro and I thought it would be good to share some of my experiences so far as a complete newbie. I went on a little adventure earlier and I'm glad that I did. This is my first report so bear with me.
Yesterday I gave myself a little tour of Centro. I wanted to know exactly where BA85 and 4x4 were as well as the casas de massagem. Unfortunatly as this was a somewhat impromptu tour I had forgotten to bring Sperto's map, and without it I didn't have much of a chance finding the places that didn't have their addresses in their name...
After finding BA85 and 4x4 I decided that I might as well check out BA85 since I was there and I hadn't brought enough money with me to venture into 4x4.
Newbie take on BA85:
Wow, it was not what I had in mind. Loud music, good. Lots of garotas, better. My very limited Portuguese, bad. Treacherous stairs, worst. I came in wanting to take my time and find someone good. I remembered hearing bad things about the first floor so I skipped it my first time through and went exploring. There are definitely some good ones in there but you have to look, and I would suggest getting a good stretch in prior to entering. I ended up going up and down those stais so many times that I caught a cramp in my calf and I'm in good shape. I figured that was a sign, so I went looking for some of the garotas that had caught my eye during one of my climbs.
I found one, but a combination of nerves and tiredness prevented me from asking her name. She was on the 4th floor, if I remember correctly, and was wearing a leopard print one piece that showed off her bunda nicely. We talk for honestly a minute, the language barrier is strong with this one. And I'm not getting answers that I like from the few questions that I could bring myself to remember. But I liked her bunda and I was ready to leave so I figured, what's R$15 and went for it.
She offered the bathroom, it was pretty gross so I pretty much was in and out of there. The cabine was small but adequate and the bed was better than I had imagined. Service was mechanical and everything was covered. It was nothing special. But I couldn't really expect more from someone I didn't even take the time to get to know. I finished up and left.
Overall, I believe that this is a place that could grow on you, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as a newbie's first trip. I found it a little daunting and knowing practically no Portuguese with all the locals that were there was not a good thing. I'm sure a couple guys asked me about another floor or told me to pass them on the stairs, but instead I would just nod and smile. Once I have a better grasp of the language I may return but not during this trip.
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Yeah, I would not suggest a newbie start with BA 85 either. I think you were with Kelli, a black girl, right?
TJ
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What is BA 85?
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Yeah, I would not suggest a newbie start with BA 85 either. I think you were with Kelli, a black girl, right?
TJ[/QUOTE]Can someone tall me where is BA 85? please elaborate!
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[QUOTE=Shoesky]Can someone tall me where is BA 85? please elaborate![/QUOTE]
On Rua Buenos Aires in Centro, the same street as 4X4, it's all in Bubba Boy's pdf!
Most Centro termas are named after their physical address.
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Centro 2nd Tier
Guys,
I am new here, even though been going to Rio for a long time. I want to start discovering Centro. I plan on going to 4X4, Termas 502, Termas 21, Termas 65 and Termas Cancun. They all seem to be in the same area. However, can you guys recomend any 2nd tier houses or apartments that are alot less expensive? Is there a list out here of those 2nd tier places around the Urugania Station I could go to? Any help?
Thanks!
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Shift/Rotations?Departures
There are several great explanations already posted. However, another explanations is their shift rotations. Girls arrive and depart 4 X 4 in waves. They arrive starting at 2:00pm, 3:00pm; the last shift arrives at 5:00pm. They also depart in waves with the first gals departing at 9 or 10 pm, all the way till 1:00am on Fridays only. Yes, they sometimes stay past midnight on the last day of the week since they are closed on weekends. If you wanted to hang with the girl after the session, you should have mentioned it to her. They are pretty much open to anything you suggest, since to them it suggests a repeat customer. I don't frequent L'uomo's enough to know what that was about.
[QUOTE=Safadinho]Maybe someone with experience can answer me about the behaviour of garotas in the above Termas. Its my first experience in Rio, so am on a learning path.
Me and my friend both took girls at 4x4 and L'uomo at around the same time and for the same length of time.
So we have a magnificent sessions with the babes, and then we come out and me and my friend meet at the bar wearing the uniform (robes, I love em).
So we enjoy the post session buzz, have a drink and chat about the experience in the bar. We were there for almost an hour enjoying the view of all the other garotas. Was hoping to see our garotas to buy em a drink etc.
The ones that we had, didnt seem to return back to the bar area again and it was around 10PM.
I expected them to come back after they fixed up their hair and faces and got rid of the JBF look. Say back in 30 min would be reasonable.
Is that usual?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]
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Could be...
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Yeah, I would not suggest a newbie start with BA 85 either. I think you were with Kelli, a black girl, right?
TJ[/QUOTE]Yo TJ, could very well have been her. She was definitely darker than most of the girls in there, but I didn't really consider her black. I believe I was darker than she was and I'm not the darkest brother out there.
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Newbies helping newbies
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Guys,
I am new here, even though been going to Rio for a long time. I want to start discovering Centro. I plan on going to 4X4, Termas 502, Termas 21, Termas 65 and Termas Cancun. They all seem to be in the same area. However, can you guys recomend any 2nd tier houses or apartments that are alot less expensive? Is there a list out here of those 2nd tier places around the Urugania Station I could go to? Any help?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Damn, double post! But I figure as someone who has spent a lot of time recently doing this very research I can be of some assistance.
A lot of good stuff is in this thread, but I'll admit it's a little buried. So in the interest of time here are a couple good sources.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=875442&postcount=1031]Sperto's Guide[/url] It is very useful, most of the places there run between R$15 and R$220 and has maps. Bubba Boy's guide is good too and can be obtained [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65086]here[/url] Gotta thank Euro100 for sorting that out in that thread, not to mention Bubba Boy for writing the thing. Another great resource is Bwana Dik's guide to Rio. I can't upload it here but just google "Bwana Dik 2009" it's the first hit. For maps I've actually printed Sperto's but another good one is [url=http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/rj.kmz]Bitchmaps[/url] it gives google maps locations and general prices of many many locations maybe even too many... The only thing is I don't know how recent it is so I would at least cross reference with Sperto's maps. But it is interactive and I do like that this map has the metro stations so you get a good idea of where you need to go from there.
Other than that I would suggest reading the thread if you can find the time. Or at least some of the posts from the more recent months. It won't take all that long and It has a lot of really valuable information. Enjoy your stay either way!
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Guys,
I am new here, even though been going to Rio for a long time. I want to start discovering Centro. I plan on going to 4X4, Termas 502, Termas 21, Termas 65 and Termas Cancun. They all seem to be in the same area. However, can you guys recomend any 2nd tier houses or apartments that are alot less expensive? Is there a list out here of those 2nd tier places around the Urugania Station I could go to? Any help?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
There are lots of maps and lists on the forum. I did a search and found the information my first time in centro.
Since there has been lots (too much in my opinion) of talk about centro thermas in the last 2 months I would suggest looking at the posts and compiling your own list.
have fun,
TJ
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[QUOTE=Asstroglide]Yo TJ, could very well have been her. She was definitely darker than most of the girls in there, but I didn't really consider her black. I believe I was darker than she was and I'm not the darkest brother out there.[/QUOTE]
In that case it was Bruna, she is thick, and a morena clara. Or did she have the sniffles or seem to have a cold? That is another girl.
You know what I bet it was this second girl because she is aggresive and hits newbies hard. She thought I was one and came on real strong.
Was the cute-faced blonde, Melenie, there? She always stands in the door.
How about the light-skinned woman working the desk? She used to work on the first floor. She has lost weight but that is a really big butt. Man, you should have seen it in a thong!
TJ
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TJ, Thanks
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]There are lots of maps and lists on the forum. I did a search and found the information my first time in centro.
Since there has been lots (too much in my opinion) of talk about centro thermas in the last 2 months I would suggest looking at the posts and compiling your own list.
have fun,
TJ[/QUOTE]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]In that case it was Bruna, she is thick, and a morena clara.
Was the cute-faced blonde, Melenie, there? She always stands in the door.
How about the light-skinned woman working the desk? She used to work on the first floor. She has lost weight but that is a really big butt. Man, you should have seen it in a thong!
TJ[/QUOTE]Haha, man, you sound way too excited! I feel like I missed a whole of of good stuff there during all of my wandering. Shame I couldn't have gone with you and had you show me the ropes, sounds like you really know the place!
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what is the status of helpee?
is it still open, or have a scheduled closing date.
buscemi
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The metro in Rio is safer than being in a taxi. You will have no problems. Cantalago to Carioca or Uriguianna, safe as.
I think metro runs from 5 in the morning till midnight.
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help
[quote=buscemi]what is the status of helpee?
is it still open, or have a scheduled closing date.
buscemi[/quote]help is still open, i will be there on wedensday night. but as far as i know, it's open. the rumours off it closing have been going on for years now.
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Asstroglide, thanks for all the info!!
It would take me a year to read all this great stuff!
Thanks for the shortcut.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks[/QUOTE]You have all day and all night? WALK BACK. Man, by the time you get caipirinha'ed in the casas or whatever, how are you supposed to drag yourself down into the Metro. What do you think cabs are for anyway?
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you are worried about safety, then take a cab. I think that the favela-scum can smell fear in guys and then home in on them.
At 10 pm the streets are pretty empty (well, comparatively). And a cab from centro to copa should not run much above R20.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
My rule is to leave centro by 8pm. Take what Euro said to heart: this is not the place to get into trouble and NOBODY speaks English when trouble begins!
You can actually take the metro to the new last station on the South line (Cantagaio), and exit on Rua Xavier da Silveria and you are just a few blocks from the beach and your apartment.
Rua Xavier da Silveria is the street where the Rio Othon, the hotel by Meia Pataca, is located. Just walk away from the beach and there is the station. Then walk toward the beach on the way back.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]It would take me a year to read all this great stuff!
Thanks for the shortcut.[/QUOTE]Actually does not take all that long to sort through these threads. Well work the time and effort in both great experiences that follow and maximizing your budget. Lots of great advice has been dispensed throughout the different threads. And you will pick up tips and some stories that make you really appreciate the culture and get you in the mindset to really enjoy Rio - not just the garotas. And I have found that if you do that the garotas enjoy their time with you more.
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Broadening horizons
Without wanting to minimize the excellent advice already given, there are activities that do not involve mongering. There are some excellent concerts, shows, movies and so on in town in the evening, especially towards the Cinelandia side of Centro. The main point being know exactly where you are going beforehand. Whether to take a cab or not in Centro mostly comes down , for me, to a feel of the streets at any particular time. If in doubt and you're new to Centro, always get a cab at night. After you get to know your way around, you know where and when you can walk, just as cariocas there do. Whether for mongering in late night joints or going to a classy concert. The walk back from 4x4 to the Metro shouldn't give anyone a problem but, if you blow 4x4 -type money, doing anything except getting a cab seems a bit cheapskating. My main exception is if I feel like walking the few yards to Rio Branco and getting a bus. (Or the few yards to Vargas if going the other way, to VM.)
Buses run all night. Buses from Rio Branco are exceptionally easy cos they have the word Copa in big letters on the front. Just have your small change ready. Buses are generally safe (I personally find them safer than taxis in many situations) but the Metro is the number one safest. If I am coming back to Copa at night (10pm is not that late) from Centro, especially to the SQ or Cantagalo / Help area, I am very much more concerned with safety there than in the main strips of Centro.
If you do want to explore Centro, best to do so first in the day. Nothing looks dumber and more inviting than someone who hasn't a clue where they are going at night.
[QUOTE=Geofagus]I am going to explore Centro this trip for the first time. I usually stay in Copacabanna, so I plan to take the Metro up in the afternoon and stay there until 9 or 10 pm. My question is, Should I take a cab outside in Centro and go back to my apartment in Copacabanna around 10pm or is it safe to get on the Metro, get off at Siquiera Campos and walk down to Avenida Atlantica where my apartment is? Naturally safety is my #1 priority. Any advice on which way to go? Usually at night after 10pm, I dont walk around the Copacabanna area by myself, unless I;m outside of HELP. My apartment is right on the corner.
Any advice which way to come back to Copacabanna from Centro around 10pm?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Broadening horizons bis
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]My rule is to leave centro by 8pm.[/QUOTE]Then you miss some of the best parties in town.
And notably the happy-hours at Arcos de Teles (the alleys just off Praça XV). Every weekday, but especially Wed-Frid, office workers (including tons of women aged 20-30, often pretty hot) flock there to grab cold cervejas, eat appetizers and catch some music before heading home. And on Thurs or Friday often don't go home before 3-4am. It's one of the best option in town to chase middle-class non-pros (Cobal Humaita isn't bad either) and with all the tables and chairs over the alleys creating a large and impromptu patio, one of the best option for people-watching also (beware though, if you get there after 9pm you'll be lucky to find a seat at all). There's maybe over 15-20 bars and botequims, all packed to the walls, but Dito & Feito is IMO the best (it's the most popular). Santa Fe is pretty good too.
For mongers with "game", language skills and cultural awareness, finding a piece of ass is relatively easy at Arcos de Teles.
Anyhow as Xtopherd rightly stated, there's lots of great cultural events and "in" nightlife options in Centro. Much more so than in Copacabana. And it's undoubtely a safer area.
Centro being one of the epicenters of Rio's nightlife with dozens of good clubs and bars inevitably filled with party-goers, I find your "rule to leave Centro by 8pm" pretty weird.
Yet as usual, to each its own.
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Centro
All this talk about centro, I really love centro. I have never seen so many brothels in such a small area in my life. Even the 2nd tier termas like 502, going in grabbing 3 beers (comes with your entrance fee), lot's off brazilian buisnessmen coming in after work. After spending the month in Rio in April, I remember my last night I headed into centro in the arvo, popped into uriguianna 24. A dump, but worth having a beer for the experience each trip, then went to ba 85, had a few beers (didn't do anything there, but have done over 10 women there before.) then off to 502, few beers having a laugh with a few brazilian buisnessmen and garotas. Then off to 4x4. Now that is one place that I can't go to without having a few women. I always feel totally safe in centro (even at night). Off a night time especially on the weekends people pack the streets drinking etc. The police leave the streets around 5 or 6 pm in centro, but I rarley see a problem there.
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Cantagio Station?
You can actually take the metro to the new last station on the South line (Cantagaio), and exit on Rua Xavier da Silveria and you are just a few blocks from the beach and your apartment.
Tijuana, you mention the Cantagalo Station. This is a new Station? Last time I was in Rio, the last station was Siqueira Campos Station. So now, you are saying I am better off finding the Cantagalo Station and using this as my primary station to go back and forth to Centro rather than humping to Siqueira Campos?
My apartment is right on the corner of Rua Djalma Ulrich. Right around the corner from Help. Am I better off using Cantagalo?
Thanks
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Chris, Good point
The walk back from 4x4 to the Metro shouldn't give anyone a problem but, if you blow 4x4 -type money, doing anything except getting a cab seems a bit cheapskating.
You are absolutely right. I can easily blow a few hundred Reals a night in a Termas, why not spring for 20R to come back and not take chances.
Thanks
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If you find a leave by 8pm rule weird, then why do you mention GAME, language skills, etc? Obviously, centro after 8pm is not for all.
I find your post strange.
1. Do not mention GAME to me, I am one of the guys from that other site where you probably learned the term.
If I told you how much GAME I had you would not believe it.
2. It seems you and the guy you mention Chris, just want to demonstrate your knowledge of the area.
I already knew Chris's game, now I know yours!
3. I never said centro closes down at 8pm. I was informing a new guy of my personal rule because he mentioned in his post that he worries about walking in Copacabana at night.
And by the way ,for the record, I am considered an expert on many parts of Brazilian society and Latin America in general. Some of your Brazilians friends you hang out with at these parties, especially the younger people, will be coming to America to take my classes some day. They would all love to come if they could afford it.
GAME!!LOL
I do not need you to tell me about broadening my horizons.
Anyway, why I am still responding, let me go ahead update my ignore list.
TJ
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same old thing, same old guys
To the Admin: we were having a nice civilized discussion of centro before Chris and Prosal chimed in. I hope you will take this into consideration when they ask you to delete this post. Also, I hope you will take note it is always the same group of guys who start crap on this forum. ALWAYS!
Has anybody else noticed the same tired posters always chime in with negativity? I mean some guys ONLY try to contradict. But usually they just demonstrate how weak they are:
For example, on this thread, if you mention centro, all of a sudden guys will chime in about non-pay for play spots to attempt to demonstrate their knowledge. They always claim, you can pick up girls there, but of course, they add you need, game, Portuguese, etc.. Their real goal is to try to say that THEY have game, Portuguese skills,etc., not you or TJ!
Or, on the apartment thread, these same types of guys chime in and start ranting about how they pay so much less because they read O Globo (another way to imply that they READ Portuguese).
It's the same tired ass game from the same tired as lames!
Sorry, I know some of you like these guys and I tried, but this crap gets on my nerves.
Ok. Here goes: the top, smartest, most intelligent, all knowing guys on this board are Chris.. and Prosal. They know all about Brazilian society (probably read some of my books. LOL), and we need to bow down to them!
They are the only two guys who should answer questions on this forum. If you attempt to do so, they have the right to respond even if they do not address the initial question. Also, they reserve the right to speak about non-pay for play, even though they will use vague terms, such as game, to describe how to pick up these women.
Now shut up, I said it all.
TJ
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I do not need you to tell me about broadening my horizons.
TJ[/QUOTE]
I think you're taking offence where none was intended, man. I find a lot of Prosal's posts informative. I don't think he claims to be an expert and neither do I. We all just try to share what info seems appropriate. I don't find a lot of the repetitive posts about a particular girl helpful. But I'm just one board member. I'm sorry you take offence where none is intended. There's so many queries it's often a hard call on whether to respond on them or not. No-one's telling you how to play your game (and if you want to discuss gaming I'm happy to do so by PM any time, with anyone - didn't know you'd written any books - again - always willing to listen).
I do notice a split between members whose sole interest is mongering and those who like mongering as part of a general experience. I'm with the latter mostly as far as Brasil is concerned, but all respect to people who just want to monger. I'm sure the board's big enough. If Admin ever wants to ban me it makes no odds - I only contribute to try and help. And people can PM me if they are worried questions will upset other people.
btw you don't need Porto or gaming skills or anything else if you want to enjoy an evening concert before heading back to Copa.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think you're taking offence where none was intended, man. I find a lot of Prosal's posts informative. I don't think he claims to be an expert and neither do I. We all just try to share what info seems appropriate. I don't find a lot of the repetitive posts about a particular girl helpful. But I'm just one board member. I'm sorry you take offence where none is intended. There's so many queries it's often a hard call on whether to respond on them or not. No-one's telling you how to play your game (and if you want to discuss gaming I'm happy to do so by PM any time, with anyone - didn't know you'd written any books - again - always willing to listen).
I do notice a split between members whose sole interest is mongering and those who like mongering as part of a general experience. I'm with the latter mostly as far as Brasil is concerned, but all respect to people who just want to monger. I'm sure the board's big enough. If Admin ever wants to ban me it makes no odds - I only contribute to try and help. And people can PM me if they are worried questions will upset other people.
btw you don't need Porto or gaming skills or anything else if you want to enjoy an evening concert before heading back to Copa.[/QUOTE]I think it was Prosal's use of the word 'weird, ' which in California is a sorority expression (and not a sorority that would include Eddy Izzard) used to insult a guy who is different.
Admittedly, newbie me found TJ's out-by-8pm Centro rule helpful. Pithy.
But even literally, 'weird' didn't work there. Paranoid, okay. But it is hardly weird for a lone, first-time gringo to be paranoid in downtown Rio after dark.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]If I told you how much GAME I had you would not believe it .... I am considered an expert on many parts of Brazilian society and Latin America in general ...Brazilians will be coming to America to take my classes some day ..I do not need broadening my horizons ..[/QUOTE]
Self-delusion is a bad mental disorder. And your boastful, irrelevant, rambling and painful-reading paranoiac BS nonsense clearly shows that your disorders are really alarming.
You should consult ASAP in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Then you miss some of the best parties in town.
And notably the happy-hours at Arcos de Teles (the alleys just off Praça XV). Every weekday, but especially Wed-Frid, office workers (including tons of women aged 20-30, often pretty hot) flock there to grab cold cervejas, eat appetizers and catch some music before heading home. And on Thurs or Friday often don't go home before 3-4am. It's one of the best option in town to chase middle-class non-pros (Cobal Humaita isn't bad either) and with all the tables and chairs over the alleys creating a large and impromptu patio, one of the best option for people-watching also (beware though, if you get there after 9pm you'll be lucky to find a seat at all). There's maybe over 15-20 bars and botequims, all packed to the walls, but Dito & Feito is IMO the best (it's the most popular). Santa Fe is pretty good too.
For mongers with "game", language skills and cultural awareness, finding a piece of ass is relatively easy at Arcos de Teles.
Anyhow as Xtopherd rightly stated, there's lots of great cultural events and "in" nightlife options in Centro. Much more so than in Copacabana. And it's undoubtely a safer area.
Centro being one of the epicenters of Rio's nightlife with dozens of good clubs and bars inevitably filled with party-goers, I find your "rule to leave Centro by 8pm" pretty weird.
Yet as usual, to each its own.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, this is very good information, I'm always looking for a happy hour and this looks like a good choice.
A question for you guys on the ground now or have been in Rio recently, how is the weather? Is it warm enough to at least sit on the beach and get some rays?
Also, recently because the Hells Angels were there it was reported that Copa was dead, is it still dead?
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Metro / Geofagus
[QUOTE=Geofagus]You can actually take the metro to the new last station on the South line (Cantagaio), and exit on Rua Xavier da Silveria and you are just a few blocks from the beach and your apartment.
Tijuana, you mention the Cantagalo Station. This is a new Station? Last time I was in Rio, the last station was Siqueira Campos Station. So now, you are saying I am better off finding the Cantagalo Station and using this as my primary station to go back and forth to Centro rather than humping to Siqueira Campos?
My apartment is right on the corner of Rua Djalma Ulrich. Right around the corner from Help. Am I better off using Cantagalo?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes Geo, coming back to Copa from Centro you can stay on the train and pass S Campos and the next/final stop is Cantagalo. You can then head towards the Miguel Lemos exit (or X Silveria). M Lemos will leave you one block closer to D Ulrich.
If you have already been on the merto this week I'm surprised you have not noticed the last stop on the line. Look up at the map next time you board.
Have fun! PL99
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I'm always looking for a happy hour[/QUOTE]
If you fancy happening happy hours in lively open air environments, then Cobals Humaita and Leblon are for you.
Cobals are bars and restaurants complexes installed in food markets, great for informally drinking, snacking or dinning while catching musica ao vivo. A Cariocas favorite.
Cobal Humaita is located rua Voluntarios da Patria, and Cobal Leblon rua Gilberto Cardoso.
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Geo and Metro query
[QUOTE=Geofagus]The walk back from 4x4 to the Metro shouldn't give anyone a problem but, if you blow 4x4 -type money, doing anything except getting a cab seems a bit cheapskating.
You are absolutely right. I can easily blow a few hundred Reals a night in a Termas, why not spring for 20R to come back and not take chances.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Another idea - I don't know if I would classify it as being a cheapskate, but ...
As you probably know by now the metro only takes about 20 minutes to get back to Copa. A cab takes 'about' the same time (depending on traffic).
So why spend R20 for a cab, when you can spend R2.80 for a unitario (one way ticket)?
You will save R17 (thats more beer money for TA - about 4 beers w/tip).
A round trip with the metro to centro vs a cab and saves you R34. Consider it more free beer with the funds saved. The option is yours.
For me it boils down to whether or not I want to walk from the Cantagalo station. Sometimes I prefer to take a cab and get dropped of at my apt first. Other times I may get out right in front of help.
The best part is you have a choice. Why waste your money on taxis when the metro is fast, safe and efficient?
Enjoy.
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overview
Just got back from a weeks vacation in Rio. This was my shortest trip to date. I usually try for at least 10 days or more and to visit both Rio and Sao Paulo.
Because my trip was so short, and I took some newbies with me, I decided to stay only in Rio. Fortunately, I used my ff miles so the trip only cost me $61.00 usd.
We stayed at the Rio Roiss Hotel and although it is an older hotel, it did the job. We paid r$ 180.00 a night which included breakfast and is very girl friendly. As long as you pay for a double, you don't get charged for bringing a girl in.
The Rio Roiss is also located right behind the Orthon Palace which is half block from help. And yes help is still open. The metro is about 3 blocks from the hotel and the citibank and hsbc atms are about the same only on Coppacabana street.
I landed at gig at 13:00, was the second person in line and was out of immigration in about 2 minutes. After retrieving my luggage and passing customs, I went to get a taxi.
I forgo all the guys wanting me to take their cab and went outside to the yellow taxis. The ride from the airport to the hotel was r$42.00. Not bad from what I have been reading.
When I went to exchange money the first day, it was r$ 1.95 to $ 1.00usd. By the time I left, it was r$2.00 for every $1.00 usd.
Unlike last year, the weather was very good. Last year it rained on me everyday. This year, the sun was out everyday until the last two days of my visit. The last two day were cloudy and windy but it didn't rain.
Fortunately, the only time it rained was at night.
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day 1
Day 1,
After getting some money I took my newbies to dinner at Monchique, a by the kilo place on Coppacabana. From there, I took them for their first terma visit, Luomo's.
I let them know the termas in Copa were more expensive than the centro termas but since it was a Sunday, none of the centro termas would be open.
I gave them a tour of the facilities and let them have fun in the bar. For some reason, I was not attracted to any of the girls. Maybe because of the long flight and no sleep, but I didn't session at all. My newbies friends did and had a great time.
From there we went into m/c.. When we arrived, the reception lady said there were only 20 girls availiable and only 3 guys in the bar. I said I like the ratio so we went on in.
Once in the bar it was more like 20 guys and 3 girls. What a dissapointment! After about 45 minutes, I was ready to leave. Fortunately one of my newbies was trying to get a legit massage but was waiting in line. Fortunate, because as we were waiting for him, a friendly girl who must have finished with another guy starts to talk with me.
She spoke very good English which is usually a bad sign for me. Usually if they speak English, they are more hardcore than I want. Her name is Paola and after flirting with her in the bar, we went up to the room.
All the reservations I had about her went out the window once in the room. Not only did she get me off twice, but the phone rang twice and both times she told the lady off. I paid for a 40 minute session, but was in the room for just about an hour. My newbies also sessioned but couldn't tell you who they took. My faith was restored in m/c.
Once we left m/c, we walked to the restaurant in front of Help and had some drinks and fries. Not as crowded as years past, but there were some lookers. I didn't partake but my newbies did. All I could do was laugh. They would be here for 5 days longer than I. I tried to warn them not to try and take so many since we still had alot of places still to visit and I didn't want them to get burned out.
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day2
I had set up a incall with guiana for 11:30 this morning. I spoke to her the week before and sounded like everything was good, but she was a no show. I tried calling her, but the animated operator said the phone was off. The funny thing is, when I called the week before, I asked her to send me a picture with her showing her face, which she did.
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=489&n=Giuliana[/url]
Since she was a no show, I went to the beach and stayed there until about 13:00. Maybe I should have stayed because many gdp started to show on the beach. Oh well, this was the day to show my newbies 4x4.
After a shower we headed for the metro station which is about 3 blocks from the hotel. The one way fare is r$2.80. We all got a card for 10 rides. Once on the metro, a short ride to station Uruguaiana. First stop lunch. We went to a place called Rosario, which is located at Rua do Rosario 102. It is one block from 4x4. It is a by the kilo and what I like best about the place is when you order the steak, they grill it right in front of you.
I know it's not the smartest thing to do, but we went into 4x4 with a full stomach. Being my friends first time there, they were very excited. Myself, I was getting a little sleepy with all the food that I had eaten.
Going into the bar, one of my friends says look at that tall blond, I really want her. I recognized the girl, she was Sol who I had taken last year. I was going to take her again this year but since my friend was so enthralled with her, I introduced her to him. He had a great time with her.
Sometimes you have to take one for the team. Sol did introduce me with one of her friends. Her name was Cindy, and not really my type but she sat with me while I was helping translate for my friends. She did have a cute face and blond hair. When my friends went up at the same time, I should have left her and get someone I preferred. But no. I took her up and took a chance.
She wasn't bad, but she wasn't great. I do give her credit, she did get me off twice which isn't a bad thing. I just wouldn't take her up again. Too many choices.
After our session, met the guys in the back bar to chill. Before leaving we changed clothes and went down to the whiskeria. I had some other friend down there. I got there just in time to see the strip show with some hot ladies who I thought I would come back to see later in the week. There were two girls who did a lesbian act and when they actually ate each other, I suddenly got a boner. By then we had to leave to meet with another friend who lives in Rio for dinner.
For dinner, we ate at Porcao's in Flamengo. Highly recommended. After dinner, stopped off in front of help again. I didn't partake, but again, my friends did.
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day 3
Went to the beach again. The guy asking me if I was going to stay long enough to see the girls. I told him probably not. Taking the guys to centro again.
Before going to centro, my friends wanted to buy some Jewerly. We went to H. Stern which provided free transportation. They bought stuff, went back to our hotel and since it was so late, we took a taxi to centro. Last year, we almost had an incident while riding on the metro which I wrote about. Didn't want that to happen again.
By the time we got to 65, there were more guys than girls. The girls there weren't all that. It's funny, last year 65 was my favorite terma. Best time and best looking girls. After about an hour I see a girl who looks half decent. She spoke some English but because of the good time I had at m/c with the girl who spoke English, I gave this one a try.
Very mechanical and was the only girl on this trip to give me a cbj. Very weak indeed. Only thing weaker is me because for the life of me, I can't remember her name. She is a morena, and almost looks asian. Would not recommend if she was the only girl there.
We left 65 early because I had another incall for my hotel at 22:00. Her name is Manuella. Here is her site.
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=587&n=Manuella+Ferra%E7o[/url]
I almost went to Help because I thought I had my second no call no show. At 22:30 I was almost at the door when I get a call from downstairs. The receptionist tells me she is here, so I tell him to let her up.
Now with these escorts, it's always a gamble on what they look like since most don't show their faces. When she showed up, I was pleasently surprised. She is tall, about 5'9" or 5' 10". She is thick but all in the right places, and for you breast lovers, hers are pretty awesome.
Here is her pricing she gave me. 1 hour r$250.00
2 hours r$350.00 and all night for r$500. The all nighter sounded like a bargain but I had to test drive first. I took the 1 hour rate.
Manuella was alot of fun and gave a great bbbj. No hands and lots of saliva. But something was missing. Can't really pin point it because I did have fun with her. I guess, sometimes that happens. I do recommend her and hopefully all the chemistry will be there for you. I ended the night with her, no walk to help tonight.
By the way, she did get me off two times and she stayed for about an hour and 45 minutes. So again I did have fun with her, but something was missing.
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day 4
Another sunny day so again start off the day by going to the beach. After the beach went downtown had lunch and decided to go Cancun. Last year, this terma was the worst for number of girls and the quality of girls.
I guess it's all about timing because this time, Cancun had the best selection and lots of girls. We didn't go into the terma, but instead went to the wiskeria. I believe it was r$40.00 to enter.
When we first arrived. There were maybe 4 girls in the room. I guess it wasn't so busy upstairs because before you knew it, there were about 15 girls about 10 minutes after we arrived. There were no other guys in the wiskeria.
Before long I spotted a cute blond hair girl named Milena. She said she was 18 and spoke no English. No joking, we spent about an hour and a half talking and making out downstairs before we decided to go upstairs. All the while, I kept asking her if she wanted something to drink, she declined everytime I asked.
I took the 40 minutes cabina and paid r$180. She was everything I could hope for. Great bbbj, great sex, and most of all great fun. gfe all the way. I told her I would be back tomorrow and if she would like to have dinner since she got off at 22:00. She said that would be great.
Leaving Cancun, all I could think about was meeting up with her tomorrow night.
Fast forward to Thursday night. I get to Cancun around 21:00 have a few drinks and wait until she gets off of work. At around 22:30 we leave the club, not together, as not to get her in trouble.
We eat at Sushi Leblon and while eating she gets a call from her babysitter. The babysitter says she can't stay and for her to get home as quickly as possible. We finish our meal and from the call, I knew she wouldn't be coming to my hotel. At least having dinner with her was fun. This day and to my disapointment, I didn't session with anyone.
Before heading back to the hotel, I stopped in front of Help again. Nothing caught my eye, so walked the short walk back to my hotel. All week, the weather was so nice, it was warm enough to walk around in a tee-shirt even at night.
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day 6
My last night in Rio. Since I didn't session last night, decided to go to another terma before going to Cancun and have two sessions for my last night.
We decided on the wiskeria at 65 even though I didn't have a good session there earlier in the week. To get in cost r$70.00 but included two drinks. Even with the drinks, this was the most expensive wiskeria. Also, if you session with a girl, you must pay for the hour. No 40 minutes cabinas from the wiskeria.
The only girl I saw who caught my eye was this tall black hair girl who was in the wiskeria for just a short time. I should have grabbed her then because once she left, she never came back.
As we were talking in the club, an older woman 28 years old came over and started to give me a massage. She wasn't the best looking but her massage was getting to me. I finally asked if her massage was good from top to bottom because I needed a good rub-down. Of course she said yes and away we went.
True to her word, her massage was pretty decent. I almost fell asleep, thats how relaxed I got. The sex was okay. The massage was better. Her name was Pamela. The sex didn't matter because I knew what awaited me at Cancun. We hung a little longer, then went to Cancun.
Cancun wasn't as packed as the night before. The waitress who got to know us pretty good brought Milena to my table. This is when things got really wierd. Milena first starts flirting with me, but soon after, she starts to flirt with all my friends. By flirting I mean dfk with all the guys. My friends thought it was wierd because they thought she would be with me.
I thought it wierd because I thought we both liked each other. No, I didn't say love each other ( lol ). So anyway after awhile, she doesn't pay any attention to me, but keeps flirting with my friends. I said to myself, if you are trying to make me jealous, you are mistaken.
So I did what I thought was right. I grabbed another girl and started to mack down on her. I figured this was my last night, I'am not going to let a gdp ruin it for me.
Then Milena looks at me and has the nerve to say, you really didn't like me. I was like, you have got to be kidding. Anyways, I don't like drama so for the rest of the night all my attention was to this new girl
Her name is Ayla or something like that. A slight resemblance to Mariah Carey. All I can say is, this was a good alternate choice. I didn't take her up at Cancun but asked her if she wanted to come back to the hotel. She said no problem but I had to wait until her shift was over.
She got off at midnight, the same time the club closes. We agreed on r$200.00 for a couple of hours. We got back to my place around 12:30 and she left around 4:00.
One thing to mention, she forgot her id so when she got to the hotel, the receptionist said he wouldn't let her in. After a few moments the receptionist asked if I would like for him to reserve a room at a love hotel, or that I could pay him and the bellboy a total of r$50.00 to let her in, but she couldn't stay all night.
Because it was so late, I paid the r$50.00. I couldn't remember the other love hotels in the city, I almost took her to Vip in Leblon. Anyways, in the room her body was awesome and so was the performance. I almost forgot to add that on the ride from centro to the hotel, her lips were hardly away from my lips. That correct, we kissed almost the entire way and she is a great kisser.
She was so good I asked her to come to the hotel later that day, so we could meet before I had to get to the airport.
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day 7
I flew United so my flight from Rio back home was at 19:00. Not the usual 22:00 departure. This was because the flight starts at Rio, then goes to Sao Paulo, then to Washington, finally to L.A..
The plan was for her to come over at noon, kick her out by 15:00, have dinner with my friends, then head for the airport.
This is why plans never go accordingly in Brazil. She got to my hotel around 14:00, that meant only one pop and be rushed at that. We made the most of it but when it was time for her to leave, I told her I would pay less since she got here so late. She didn't put up a fight and said she was sorry she was late.
I gave her r$100.00 plus taxi money. She was very cool about it and when I come back, I will be hooking up with again. By the way, she said she is going back to school soon and won't be working there anymore.
So there it is until next year. I almost forgot, my friends got two girls from Cancun who spoke English and were very freaky. In fact, one of them lived in Chicago for a time being as a foreign exchange student. She to is quiting in two weeks to open up a bar in her home-town, wherever that is.
Also on this trip, I finally ate at Cervantes. Thanks Christopher for the information about this place.
And finally, for those concerned about centro after dark, even at 00:00 especially near Cancun, it was pretty lit up. Many people still around drinking beers and whatever else. Taxis were pretty easy to find on Rio Branco, never felt threatened. But again, use common sense and you should, stress the word should, be okay.
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[QUOTE=Quackup]Day 1,
After getting some money I took my newbies to dinner at Monchique, a by the kilo place on Coppacabana. From there, I took them for their first terma visit, Luomo's.
I let them know the termas in Copa were more expensive than the centro termas but since it was a Sunday, none of the centro termas would be open.
I gave them a tour of the facilities and let them have fun in the bar. For some reason, I was not attracted to any of the girls. Maybe because of the long flight and no sleep, but I didn't session at all. My newbies friends did and had a great time.
From there we went into m/c.. When we arrived, the reception lady said there were only 20 girls availiable and only 3 guys in the bar. I said I like the ratio so we went on in.
Once in the bar it was more like 20 guys and 3 girls. What a dissapointment! After about 45 minutes, I was ready to leave. Fortunately one of my newbies was trying to get a legit massage but was waiting in line. Fortunate, because as we were waiting for him, a friendly girl who must have finished with another guy starts to talk with me.
She spoke very good English which is usually a bad sign for me. Usually if they speak English, they are more hardcore than I want. Her name is Paola and after flirting with her in the bar, we went up to the room.
All the reservations I had about her went out the window once in the room. Not only did she get me off twice, but the phone rang twice and both times she told the lady off. I paid for a 40 minute session, but was in the room for just about an hour. My newbies also sessioned but couldn't tell you who they took. My faith was restored in m/c.
Once we left m/c, we walked to the restaurant in front of Help and had some drinks and fries. Not as crowded as years past, but there were some lookers. I didn't partake but my newbies did. All I could do was laugh. They would be here for 5 days longer than I. I tried to warn them not to try and take so many since we still had alot of places still to visit and I didn't want them to get burned out.[/QUOTE]
Tall, thin morena, no tatoos and perfect ass?
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Then you miss some of the best parties in town.
And notably the happy-hours at Arcos de Teles (the alleys just off Praça XV). Every weekday, but especially Wed-Frid, office workers (including tons of women aged 20-30, often pretty hot) flock there to grab cold cervejas, eat appetizers and catch some music before heading home. And on Thurs or Friday often don't go home before 3-4am. It's one of the best option in town to chase middle-class non-pros (Cobal Humaita isn't bad either) and with all the tables and chairs over the alleys creating a large and impromptu patio, one of the best option for people-watching also (beware though, if you get there after 9pm you'll be lucky to find a seat at all). There's maybe over 15-20 bars and botequims, all packed to the walls, but Dito & Feito is IMO the best (it's the most popular). Santa Fe is pretty good too.
For mongers with "game", language skills and cultural awareness, finding a piece of ass is relatively easy at Arcos de Teles.
Anyhow as Xtopherd rightly stated, there's lots of great cultural events and "in" nightlife options in Centro. Much more so than in Copacabana. And it's undoubtely a safer area.
Centro being one of the epicenters of Rio's nightlife with dozens of good clubs and bars inevitably filled with party-goers, I find your "rule to leave Centro by 8pm" pretty weird.
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Thanks for the info.
What are the average prices for drinks and snacks in this area? Cheaper than copa? I would like to venture out there on my next visit.
Thanks
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july
july gan,
Yes, that's sounds like her. She loves the movies.
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Hooker Hotel
I'm in Rio this week, my first time here. Today I was on a bus with a female tour guide in the Sahara District she said. This is an area downtown where you can buy all kinds of merchandise cheap. The area was packed with people. But as we drove by Buenos Aires Avenue or Rua(street) in the middle of this shopping madness, is the Hotel Paris. I did a double take. The woman said to me that's a hooker place. These girls were in the hotel lobby and doorway with short skirts and obviously not hiding the fact they were open for business.
Being the gentleman I am not, I pretended not to care. But I wanted to go back and check it out. Does anybody have any experience with the Hoetel Paris...I mean the Hotel Paris? Please advise.
Also I had my experience walking around Lapa last night. No girls to be had there, just the boys who want to be. And they are everywhere. Not a pretty sight. It's sick.
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[QUOTE=Malo9517]I'm in Rio this week, my first time here. Today I was on a bus with a female tour guide in the Sahara District she said.[/QUOTE]
I guess you mean the SAARA area.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]BA 85 is open on Saturdays. Usually there are 1 or 2 floors open. ON Saturdays, floor 2 is always open. Floor one is open quite often but usually staffed by girls from the other floors, especially from floor 3.
TJ[/QUOTE]What time do they open on Sat?
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Escort Service
Guys,
I've been reading the reports here on various escort services. I went on the websites and the average is R250 for 2 hours. I've never called an escort service before, but I am fluent in Portuguese. My question is, if I book her for 2 hours to come to my apartment, if I want her to stay with me longer, should I tell her if she is good, I would ask her to stay longer? Or should I wait until the 2 hour session is done and then offer and ask her to stay longer? Is there any advantage for doing it either way?
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Another idea - I don't know if I would classify it as being a cheapskate, but ...
As you probably know by now the metro only takes about 20 minutes to get back to Copa. A cab takes 'about' the same time (depending on traffic).
So why spend R20 for a cab, when you can spend R2.80 for a unitario (one way ticket)?
You will save R17 (thats more beer money for TA - about 4 beers w/tip).
A round trip with the metro to centro vs a cab and saves you R34. Consider it more free beer with the funds saved. The option is yours.
For me it boils down to whether or not I want to walk from the Cantagalo station. Sometimes I prefer to take a cab and get dropped of at my apt first. Other times I may get out right in front of help.
The best part is you have a choice. Why waste your money on taxis when the metro is fast, safe and efficient?
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Pipe, good point. Now I plan on taking the metro to Centro back and forth alot during the week. Do they sell other tickets than a unitaro? Do they sell maybe a weekly or 20 trip ticket? How does this work?
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[QUOTE=Quackup].. We left 65 early because I had another incall for my hotel at 22:00. Her name is Manuella. Here is her site. [url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina. Asp? C=587&n=Manuella+Ferra%E7o[/url] I almost went to Help because I thought I had my second no call no show. At 22:30 I was almost at the door when I get a call from downstairs. The receptionist tells me she is here, so I tell him to let her up. Now with these escorts, it's always a gamble on what they look like since most don't show their faces. When she showed up, I was pleasently surprised. She is tall, about 5'9" or 5' 10". She is thick but all in the right places, and for you breast lovers, hers are pretty awesome. Here is her pricing she gave me. 1 hour r$250.00 2 hours r$350.00 and all night for r$500. The all nighter sounded like a bargain but I had to test drive first. I took the 1 hour rate. Manuella was alot of fun and gave a great BBBJ. No hands and lots of saliva. But something was missing. Can't really pin point it because I did have fun with her. I guess, sometimes that happens. I do recommend her and hopefully all the chemistry will be there for you. I ended the night with her, no walk to help tonight. By the way, she did get me off two times and she stayed for about an hour and 45 minutes. So again I did have fun with her, but something was missing.[/QUOTE]Hey Quackup:
Her photos look pretty nice, did she look like the girl in the photos? Did you take any photos? Did she DFK? Ask for taxi money? She didn't clock watch at all after your 1st pop? The RIOsexsite is not an agency per se.. They let independent GDPs advertise, right? Have you had other positive experiences with them?
THANKS again for posting your story.
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Silly questions
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Guys,
I've been reading the reports here on various escort services. I went on the websites and the average is R250 for 2 hours. I've never called an escort service before, but I am fluent in Portuguese. My question is, if I book her for 2 hours to come to my apartment, if I want her to stay with me longer, should I tell her if she is good, I would ask her to stay longer? Or should I wait until the 2 hour session is done and then offer and ask her to stay longer? Is there any advantage for doing it either way?[/QUOTE]First off - there has been much written about escort services that are R$120 for 2 hours. Independents charge more like the R$250 and higher you are quoting. But do you really lack the communication skills and confidence to answer your own questions? Relax, see how things are going and then determine if you want to pursue her staying longer. She may have another appointment. She may not enjoy your company. She may enjoy herself so much that she stays longer without clock watching. You may realize that there are a million other choices of ladies (and other things you can do) in Rio that you do not want her for more than 2 hours. Relax - and enjoy what unfolds around you and take things from there.
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almotu,
She is pretty close to the pictures on her website. She did dfk, and her bbbj were really good. She did not clockwatch. The only time I have used this website was on this trip. Guiliana was a no show, Mauella was a thumbs up. So one out of two, I guess that isn't too bad.
The major difference in my book between an escort and meeting someone at the termas or help, is that you get to see beforehand what you are getting and you get to converse with the girl to see if the chemistry is right. With the escort it's a flip of the coin with looks and hopefully in the short time you are with her, the chemistry will be there.
The only other time I used an escort agency in Rio was about 5 years ago using Karla's models. The girl I picked was very homely looking. Nothing like the photo's. But in the sack, she was great. So you never know.
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[QUOTE=Dollars]What time do they open on Sat?[/QUOTE]
Not 100% sure. They are certainly open by noon, though. Most likely around 11:30. They close around 4:30, so you have a fair amount of time to hang out.
TJ
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Pre-paid metro card
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Pipe, good point. Now I plan on taking the metro to Centro back and forth alot during the week. Do they sell other tickets than a unitaro? Do they sell maybe a weekly or 20 trip ticket? How does this work? [/QUOTE]Yes they have Pre-Pago card which is plastic like a credit card. You go to the window and get it, there is a minimum amount to put on it the first time (10 reals I think) and then you can put more on it later, even at machines. You touch the card to a sensor and it deducts the fare each time. Much better than standing in line buying a ticket each time.
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Visiting Brazil
Hello my fellow mongering brothers,
I am planning to visit Brazil in November. Is it a good time to visit at that time? Also I am just curious about where to find girls in Rio that will work for my new adult movie productions that I am starting in two months. I am just fascinated by the talents some of the production companies are able to find in Rio...girls that will go beyond their limits when it comes to sex!!! Where should I start looking for those types?
I am sorry if this is an inappropriate thread to post my questions.
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[quote=quackup]we left 65 early because i had another incall for my hotel at 22:00. her name is manuella. here is her site.
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina. asp? c=587&n=manuella+ferra%e7o[/url]
i almost went to help because i thought i had my second no call no show. at 22:30 i was almost at the door when i get a call from downstairs. the receptionist tells me she is here, so i tell him to let her up.
now with these escorts, it's always a gamble on what they look like since most don't show their faces. when she showed up, i was pleasently surprised. she is tall, about 5'9" or 5' 10". she is thick but all in the right places, and for you breast lovers, hers are pretty awesome.
here is her pricing she gave me. 1 hour r$250.00
2 hours r$350.00 and all night for r$500. the all nighter sounded like a bargain but i had to test drive first. i took the 1 hour rate.[/quote]nice report, q!
as a point of reference. is r$500 a typical price for independent tln?
seems kind of high, like maybe r$100 higher than a hardcore helpee's retail asking price. helpers, is that correct?
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[QUOTE=Kuttappan]...I am planning to visit Brazil in November. Is it a good time to visit at that time? Also I am just curious about where to find girls in Rio that will work for my new adult movie productions that I am starting in two months... Where should I start looking for those types?[/QUOTE]
Vila Mimosa.
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If you learn 25 Portuguese words, you would be amazed at the semi-pro garotas willing to practice their English and BJ skills with you over a Skol and a small donation. Try posto 9 on a Sunday, and get away from the Hardcore Rio Othon skanks!
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[QUOTE=Buscemi]Semi-pro garotas Posto 9 willing to practice their English and BJ skills over a Skol and a small donation[/QUOTE]
What have you been smockin and where can I get some ?
Posto 9 is "Gente Fina" meeting-point. Zona Sul cream of the crop. Brasil most snobish and exclusive clique.
No Posto 9 patricinha wouldn't be seen dead with a sex-tourist.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]No Posto 9 patricinha wouldn't be seen dead with a sex-tourist.[/QUOTE]
To each his own, I had decent luck there, it is a nice change from the Posto 5 garbage.
My only point was try getting away fromm the hardcore Mei Pataca/Balcony skanks and you might actually meet semi-pro GDP's.
BTW, there are Terma PRO's in front of Caesar Park FYI!
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[QUOTE=Buscemi]BTW, there are Terma PRO's in front of Caesar Park FYI![/QUOTE]
Seconded. And they are usually hotter than Copacabana skanky faveladas.
Nonetheless Caesar Park beach is for the "in" crowd out of Posto 9 area. Gente Fina don't want to blend with white bread fed ass sex-hungry gringos and swarthy prostitutes.
Rio beaches have very strict codes, usually unknown by tourists.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]To each his own![/QUOTE]
Posto 9 and Pepino are my favorite beaches in Rio.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Seconded. And they are usually hotter than Copacabana skanky faveladas.
Nonetheless Caesar Park beach is for the "in" crowd out of Posto 9 area. Gente Fina don't want to blend with white bread fed ass sex-hungry gringos and swarthy prostitutes.
Posto 9 and Pepino are my favorite beaches in Rio.[/QUOTE]
How many times are you going to edit your post mate?
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[QUOTE=Buscemi]If you learn 25 Portuguese words, you would be amazed at the semi-pro garotas willing to practice their English and BJ skills with you over a Skol and a small donation. Try posto 9 on a Sunday, and get away from the Hardcore Rio Othon skanks![/QUOTE]I have to say that, in Ipanema, the beach in front of Ceasar Park is a 'low profile' similar to Othon Palace point.
Posto 9 is a crowded place with the local youth. Until the end of the day one can see the beach full of people. It's a fashion place among cariocas with a past of music, marijuana and social protest. I think it's a little difficult to catch a girl there willing to go by money but, everything is possible.
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Centro Casas
I've been reading the helpful reports on the Centro Casas. Based on these reports, they vary in standards of cabins, girls etc. 4 weeks until I go and plan on experimenting in Centro for the first time.
However, none of these post talk about how safe it is to enter a Casa/Apartment. I am traveling alone and do speak fluent Portuguese. Question is, do I need to be concerned in going into these Casas/Apartments? Is there a safety issue about being robbed or a Pit-guy not letting you out of there unless you pay a mad R1, 000 fee?
Can you guys share a little info on safety concerns here?
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[QUOTE=Kuttappan]Hello my fellow mongering brothers,
I am planning to visit Brazil in November. Is it a good time to visit at that time? Also I am just curious about where to find girls in Rio that will work for my new adult movie productions that I am starting in two months. I am just fascinated by the talents some of the production companies are able to find in Rio...girls that will go beyond their limits when it comes to sex!!! Where should I start looking for those types?
I am sorry if this is an inappropriate thread to post my questions.[/QUOTE]Hi Kuttappan,
What type of girls are you looking for - discovering new girls that have never done porn, amateur girls that have only done a few scenes, or professional porn stars?
There are many professional porn stars that work as independent escorts at rates competitive to other independents, but almost all of these girls work out of Sao Paulo. I have read reports about people paying airfare to fly a girl into Rio if you did not want to go to Sao Paulo. As an example, here are a few porn stars on one escort website, but there are many more:
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=6273&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=2&pagina=4[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=4941&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=2&pagina=3[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=3423&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=2&pagina=7[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=5116&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=2&pagina=1[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=5771&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=2&pagina=5[/url]
Over the years, there have been several girls that have done some porn that work at termas, Help, or casas. Most of these girls seem to be amateurs who have only done one or a few scenes. Among the termas, I remember L'uomo and 4x4 have had several girls who have done porn. The Mike in Brazil website seems to have shot several girls from Rio, but they also have shot many professional porn stars from Sao Paulo.
During Carnival and the time around New Year, the prices increase substantially. But many have said that during Carnival, many Brazilians travel to Rio and there are more working girls available, so your selection might be better then. I think other times of the year are fairly constant, so November should be fine.
I have taken two trips here but I am still quite ignorant about Brazil. There are many in this forum who can give you much better information.
I am interested in your plans to shoot porn in Brazil, I hope you keep us updated on your experiences. Are you located in Los Angeles? I am in the San Diego area.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I've been reading the helpful reports on the Centro Casas. Based on these reports, they vary in standards of cabins, girls etc. 4 weeks until I go and plan on experimenting in Centro for the first time.
However, none of these post talk about how safe it is to enter a Casa/Apartment. I am traveling alone and do speak fluent Portuguese. Question is, do I need to be concerned in going into these Casas/Apartments? Is there a safety issue about being robbed or a Pit-guy not letting you out of there unless you pay a mad R1, 000 fee?
Can you guys share a little info on safety concerns here?[/QUOTE]
Centro Casas in any price range are generally safe.
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Hello guys,
I come in Rio soon and would like to know if discoteca help is still opened.
Thanks for your answer.
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Duda-Barra Vips
I was looking through Barra Vips website. I kinda like Duda, she's 40 (acording to the website). So I called her up and had a nie conversation on the phone with her. Told her I was looking foward to seeing her in a few weeks.
anyone have any info on her?
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[QUOTE=Marc973]Hello guys,
I come in Rio soon and would like to know if discoteca help is still opened.
Thanks for your answer.[/QUOTE]Yes it is.
Everyone says it will close, but no one knows when.
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[QUOTE=Marc973]Hello guys,
I come in Rio soon and would like to know if discoteca help is still opened.
Thanks for your answer.[/QUOTE]Yes. Walked by last night and saw all the usual happenings.
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Asians with nice bundas
I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.
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Possible, but not common in Rio.
[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Very doable in S. Paulo.
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Asian bunda
[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]Try Sabrina at Cancun in Centro? - she has a Japanese father and a Brazilian mother - very pretty, small tits but a fantastic large bunda. Sorry I don't have photos.
I sessioned with her last week on a Monday around 6-7 pm, She does everything. Total cost (entrance, 3 soft drinks, 1 hour session) was R245.
I hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Rio does not have a large "Asian" population, but Sao Paulo has a relatively large community of Asian descent. I think you should post this question in the Sao Paulo forum and see what they say.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Several months ago, I saw one or two inside Help. As for the Ts in Rio, I don't ever recall running into any. However, there are a ton of them in Sampa. The Liberdade area is Japanese heavy. Cheers .
Ok, gentlemen. In the morn, I'm off to Rio ;-)))
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[QUOTE=Marc973]Hello guys,
I come in Rio soon and would like to know if discoteca help is still opened.
Thanks for your answer.[/QUOTE]
I was in Help this past Sunday night, by 2 am there was a good crowd going on. A good amount of real nice girls. I had zeroed in a real sweet girl next door type but never left with her, I got lost and ran into Danielle one of the twins in Danielle and Francesca. I wasn't sure if it was her or not but I asked her if she was a twin and she said yes. Her sister is out of the business as of now, she is married with child.
Danielle was superb, I always wanted to do her and it never happened before, I will session with her again this trip for sure that’s how good she was.
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Solarium has a half-Japanese with a Brazilian bunda.
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Milky
[QUOTE=Benjoe]Solarium has a half-Japanese with a Brazilian bunda.[/QUOTE]
The half Japanese in Solarium goes by the name of Milky. She looks sweet, and is relatively nice, but she really does not look much as an oriental to me. In fact, I did not pick up on it until she told me.
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1 photos
[QUOTE=Mangera]The half Japanese in Solarium goes by the name of Milky. She looks sweet, and is relatively nice, but she really does not look much as an oriental to me. In fact, I did not pick up on it until she told me.[/QUOTE]Heres a pic of the bunda in question I didn't get her name as milky I remember meeting her and her twin a couple years ago, but on my return I couldn't remember which one I had fucked and there was only one this time, the twin owns a shop or something she said, but she for me definetly got oriental looks, yeah she is not Asian but definetly got Asian facial features. Solid all round performer and a 3 hole girl.
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2 photos
[QUOTE=Mangera]The half Japanese in Solarium goes by the name of Milky. She looks sweet, and is relatively nice, but she really does not look much as an oriental to me. In fact, I did not pick up on it until she told me.[/QUOTE]
Is this the girl you are talking about? She goes by the name "Milky" as well. I would be surprised to find out she works in Solarium because she is in Help nightly.
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Nope
[QUOTE=Bravo]Is this the girl you are talking about? She goes by the name "Milky" as well. I would be surprised to find out she works in Solarium because she is in Help nightly.[/QUOTE]
Thats not the Milky I know from Solarium. The milky I know looks a bit younger and less oriental. That is a cute gal in the picture. Thanks for sharing.
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Japanese escort in Rio
[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes.php?a=294[/url]
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Couple of more Orientals
[quote=tan1929]i am considering a trip to rio. i am a bunda guy, however i have a strong affection for asian women. so i think you can see my problem right off the bat. but i was thinking maybe i could find an asian with a nice bunda in brazil since it has a large japanese population. what are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in rio? would i have better luck looking for a coelacanth. you know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of madagascar.[/quote]
justa couple of weeks ago i saw a duo of petite garotas that have an oriental look to them. they love to show off their athletic skills by spinning at light speed on that handle hanging from the ceiling, located right over the center stage area in the back of the boite.
but like most typical asians, they have small bundas in comparison to other garotas. but they are cute.
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
Another half-Japanese gdp is Sayuri (formerly?) of 4x4 and now (I hear) of Monte Carlo. On the Rio Sex site, there is an escort, [url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=378&n=Isabella+Suzuk[/url] Isabella Suzuk. Last month, there was a full Asian at 4x4, but I don't remember her bunda.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I was looking through Barra Vips website. I kinda like Duda, she's 40 (acording to the website). So I called her up and had a nie conversation on the phone with her. Told her I was looking foward to seeing her in a few weeks.
anyone have any info on her?[/QUOTE]
I had noticed her too, not that I want to session with a 40 yr old escort while there are so many 18 to 22 yr olds in the bus but because I wanted to find someone age appropriate to accompany me to a swing club.
I had a non pro who did but she was complaining to me that I only call her to go to swing clubs. She wants to go out with me on a regular date, sorry. She did provide a number of a friend of hers but she is not a good bait and switch, so I am looking for a girl who the bouncers can imagine she is with me and not a pro. I do have a couple of 25 year olds that will go with me this week that will be good bait and switch, we'll see how it fly’s.
What is her rate?
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Sang
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I had noticed her too, not that I want to session with a 40 yr old escort while there are so many 18 to 22 yr olds in the bus but because I wanted to find someone age appropriate to accompany me to a swing club.
I had a non pro who did but she was complaining to me that I only call her to go to swing clubs. She wants to go out with me on a regular date, sorry. She did provide a number of a friend of hers but she is not a good bait and switch, so I am looking for a girl who the bouncers can imagine she is with me and not a pro. I do have a couple of 25 year olds that will go with me this week that will be good bait and switch, we'll see how it fly’s.
What is her rate?[/QUOTE]I dont know her rate yet. Going to call her this week and see what her numbers are. From my experience, older Brazilian women late 30's and early 40's are just as good if not better than 21yr old Brazilian women. I like to see what her face looks like since she does have an amazing figure for a 40 yr old.
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Sang
Sang, what swing clubs would you recommend?
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[QUOTE=Marcop 12]Heres a pic of the bunda in question I didn't get her name as milky I remember meeting her and her twin a couple years ago, but on my return I couldn't remember which one I had fucked and there was only one this time, the twin owns a shop or something she said, but she for me definetly got oriental looks, yeah she is not Asian but definetly got Asian facial features. Solid all round performer and a 3 hole girl.[/QUOTE]Just to add on the further posts this bunda is not what the other pics refer to as 'milky' this is one of the twins that as of April still worked there so been a couple of years she worked there, said her sister stopped working as GDP.
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[QUOTE=RickMe]Sang, what swing clubs would you recommend?[/QUOTE]
Well tonight Wednesday night 2A2 in Copacabana is couples night, Thursday has couples and singles both men and woman but as you can imagine more single men than women. Friday and Saturday couples only.
[url]http://www.2a2.com.br/[/url]
Also termas 400 in Barra turns into a swing club saturday night called Henri club, everybody likes this place [url]http://www.hcswing.com.br/[/url]
Termas 400 at the same address on Friday night has termas girls and couples can come in, mista sauna.
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Real VIP
[QUOTE=Geofagus]I dont know her rate yet. Going to call her this week and see what her numbers are. From my experience, older Brazilian women late 30's and early 40's are just as good if not better than 21yr old Brazilian women. I like to see what her face looks like since she does have an amazing figure for a 40 yr old.[/QUOTE]
I emailed one of the girls on Barra VIP recently and asked for the price with my broken Porto, I got a reply right away of R350+Taxi R70 for 2h (come to my place in Copa, she puts her location Barra).... ! OK she is really hot, but for that price I don't need to travel thousands of miles - no matter what bunda lovers call me, cheap... LOL
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[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I emailed one of the girls on Barra VIP recently and asked for the price with my broken Porto, I got a reply right away of R350+Taxi R70 for 2h (come to my place in Copa, she puts her location Barra).... ! OK she is really hot, but for that price I don't need to travel thousands of miles - no matter what bunda lovers call me, cheap... LOL[/QUOTE]
They are not all the same price as they are independents but they are not cheap by no means, I called about a dozen of them today from both Barra and Hotside at about 1 pm as it was raining in Rio and I was looking for something to do, all these lazy girls told me to call back at 4 pm.
I finally hit upon this one [url]http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=429[/url]
all I have to say is WOW another gem 200 reals for 2 hours and well worth it, I was thinking about going to one of the copa termas but when I did the math, I think a copa termas is about 260 reals for 40 minutes, I figured I was better off with 200 reals for 2 hours in the privacy of my own apto.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I was looking through Barra Vips website. I kinda like Duda, she's 40 (acording to the website). So I called her up and had a nie conversation on the phone with her. Told her I was looking foward to seeing her in a few weeks.
anyone have any info on her?[/QUOTE]
I called her the other day to see if she would go to the swing club with me, she said no problem for the night 400 reais.
I also have an amiga in Help who is 37, I never did her yet but she will come to the swing club with me too and she is hot and perfect, I won't take her out of help because I prefer to pay for 20 somethings, I can get all the 37 year olds I want for free so I won't pay for them. PM me if you want her numbers, she is a lot of fun and good looking and speaks very good English, she lived in the states for a while.
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My point exactly!!
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]They are not all the same price as they are independents but they are not cheap by no means, I called about a dozen of them today from both Barra and Hotside at about 1 pm as it was raining in Rio and I was looking for something to do, all these lazy girls told me to call back at 4 pm.
I finally hit upon this one [url]http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=429[/url]
all I have to say is WOW another gem 200 reals for 2 hours and well worth it, I was thinking about going to one of the copa termas but when I did the math, I think a copa termas is about 260 reals for 40 minutes, I figured I was better off with 200 reals for 2 hours in the privacy of my own apto.[/QUOTE]The value of the dollar right now is 100USD-190R.6 Years ago it was almost 4 to 1. I could care less about money 6 years ago. You go to a Termas now, 40 minutes could run you in the neighborhood of R260. Why not get one of these girls to come to your apartment for R200-R250 for two hours. She might even stay longer if she digs you. After my 2 hour in the apartment, I offer to take her out to eat, get a few drinks and see maybe she wants to come back for another 2 hours after wards if she has no plans. In my experience, if you are good to the girls, show them affection and speak the language, they will want to repeat the business. Especially if you are clean. (and that if I liked her also). After 4 hours of screwing, I don't need a Help girl for the night at 3am.
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Sangue...did she mean
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I called her the other day to see if she would go to the swing club with me, she said no problem for the night 400 reais.
I also have an amiga in Help who is 37, I never did her yet but she will come to the swing club with me too and she is hot and perfect, I won't take her out of help because I prefer to pay for 20 somethings, I can get all the 37 year olds I want for free so I won't pay for them. PM me if you want her numbers, she is a lot of fun and good looking and speaks very good English, she lived in the states for a while.[/QUOTE]Did she mean R400 for coming back to your place afterwards and spending the entire night? Not a bad deal. Love the 'Hotside' website and the chick Anita Ferrari you found. It says 250 for 2 hours. You got it for R200?
Also, where do you see these 40 year old GDP's? Is there a certain bar they hang out in? I call them Cougars! Any help?
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Did she mean R400 for coming back to your place afterwards and spending the entire night? Not a bad deal. Love the 'Hotside' website and the chick Anita Ferrari you found. It says 250 for 2 hours. You got it for R200?
Also, where do you see these 40 year old GDP's? Is there a certain bar they hang out in? I call them Cougars! Any help?[/QUOTE]Yes her webpage Anita does say 250 but when I asked her over the telephone she told me 200, I thought maybe she made a mistake or was quoting me her 1 hour rate. She stayed 2 hours or even a little more, I reiterated 200 right? she said yes and thats what I gave her for a great performance, to be honest she must have given me 2 BBBJ for about 1 hour and fifteen minutes, what a girl and it was a good one too.
The cougar at 400 reais just quoted me the price for the club time for example 11 pm to 4 am after that if the club was a success you could have done 3 different girls anyway for the price of one, someone elses girlfriend. I didn't ask her how much just to come to my apt for 2 hours, Im sure it is less than 400, my experience is that these older girls charge less, so she may have charged 200, just my guess. I havn't made it to the club yet because I have been getting up too late, last night I awoke at midnight to go to Help, so it's too late to go to the swing club.
There's plenty of 40 yr old gdp's at Help, like I said I have one friend there Sonia, she is 37, last night I ran into a GDP I knew from 10 years ago when she was 25, so now she is 35, still looks good but when she was 25 she was a stunner at about 5' 10" tall and blond. If she lived next door to me in NY I would be looking for her everyday to screw as she is beautiful but here I go for the 20 somethings because they are harder to get for me for free but not impossible.
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[QUOTE=Tan1929]I am considering a trip to Rio. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat. But I was thinking maybe I could find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Rio? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found of the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]I guess it was because of your post and the discussion that followed, I was in HELP last night, I saw 2 women and asked them if they were half Japanese, they were and they were sisters. I talked to them maybe 45 minutes, very sweet interesting girls who come from Sao Paulo, lived in Spain and Italy.
I left them and moved on but then time flies and before you know it it is after 3 am and its time to get things going, I bumped into them again, 2 half Brazilian/Japanese, I told them lets go have a festa in my apto, they were up for it, came back to my apto and they love whisky, even noticed the JW Blue on the shelf, I told them they're my 2 geisha girls, they screwed me silly in my bed together all night(my apto has king size bed, fits 3 no problem), everything BBBJ DFK but I don't do anal so I don't know. 1 left at 8 this morning the other at 11 when I got a one last screw for the road.
This is the 2nd night for me with a dupla, the night before same, but Brazilian, I was screwing 1 and daty the other at the same time, they both came at the same time. Some pictures will follow.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I was screwing 1 and daty the other at the same time, they both came at the same time. Some pictures will follow.[/QUOTE]Cmon SG, did it really happen like that. It sounds like a porno movie scene. But, if you say it did, I'll believe it.
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Your opinion
What is your opinion for the terma girls? Its easy to go with you after tha job and what is the situation in this case? I ask because in octomber I ll come back to Rio, and I have in my eye on girl which I meet the March in solarium. But I I meet the last day before I come back to my country. So bad luck and now I want to test again my luck.
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Help me with your experience
I saw that you have experience to the terma girls for this reason I want your help, I was in Rio March and I taste the city, now octomber I ll come back to Rio, and I ll wanted to know who is the situation with the terma girls, can you take her in your room? Who cost for example, I ask especially because the last day in my previous trip to Rio I met a girl in solarium, and now I want to see again I want to now whos works the thing! Thans and I am sorry for my bad english!
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[quote=ryjerrob]cmon sg, did it really happen like that. it sounds like a porno movie scene. but, if you say it did, i'll believe it.[/quote]
well maybe it wasn't exactly the same time but it was close. it's hard to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on viagra.
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Sangue...I called Duda
Called her today to see if I could get some numbers out of her. She apparently works in either an apartment or casa during the day. I heard alot of girls in the background laughing and talking with no music. So I guess its a casa, not a Termas. At 40 years old I doubt she is working in a Tier 1 Termas. She told me to call her back in 30 minutes, so I guess she was busy.
For me, I like the Cougars in their mid 40's. There are so many of 19 and 20 years olds out there like you said. In fact, I'm gonna try to dupla a 40+ with a 19 year old. Shouldn't be hard to find in Help.
Glad you had a good time with Anita. You got pictures of her? Love to see them. Nice deal for R200. Says on her site R250. Did you kick her out or did she just leave because she had other plans?
Geo
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Terms Girls
[QUOTE=Spiros Katas]I saw that you have experience to the terma girls for this reason I want your help, I was in Rio March and I taste the city, now octomber I ll come back to Rio, and I ll wanted to know who is the situation with the terma girls, can you take her in your room? Who cost for example, I ask especially because the last day in my previous trip to Rio I met a girl in solarium, and now I want to see again I want to now whos works the thing! Thans and I am sorry for my bad english![/QUOTE]The girls in any Termas are hit or miss. First she has to like you. If you have more than a session with her you have a good chance. Some will come, some won't. Believe it or not, alot of these Termas girls have jealous boyfriends they have to go home to at midnight. Their hours are tough because they work later afternoons and into the evenings.
My game is. I like to talk to a Termas girl before a session. Interview her like many out here say. If you have chemistry, maybe ask her if she is available after her shift to come over to your apartment. If thats what you want, then better off finding out. If she says no. Then move onto another Termas girl that can and will. Its your choice. I will always spot her R15 in the Termas towards her taxi as a good faith 'deposit' so she comes. She'll come, if she doesn't, you lost R15. Big deal. The last thing she would want is for you to return to the Termas tomorrow after a no show and she kept your R15. She will be afraid you tell all the men how you lie and she will lose customers. Including you. If she can't come, she'll tell you. Remember, its all a business.
The key is to spend time with her inside the Termas. Buy her a few drinks. IF she orders the most expensive drink. Ditch her. If she wants to order multiple drinks for her and her friends. Ditch her. However, I've had some that told me she would share a drink with me because it was expensive. Now thats a sincere girl I would rather get to know. Session with her more than once. Show her you are there exclusively for her. Build a bond with her. She'll come.
Geo
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3 trips in 3 months
I just completed my third short trip to Rio in the last three months. My typical stay in Rio was 4 or 5 days as part of a larger trip to other Brazil cities. I am developing some new media projects in Brazil. And the internet media companies are really getting some interest down there.
Previously I had been to Rio just once for 6 days (about a year ago) and did some limited local mongering based on the terrific Bwana Dik and Bubba Boy reports. I hit Centaurus, Monte Carlo, Luomo, 4 X 4, Help and a few escorts. Overall I had great experiences, did not pull out anyone from Help, and actually befriended a few termas girls from Luomo and MC (despite my limited Porto and their limited English) and spent time at clubs together. I stayed at the girl-friendly Aporodor Inn which was a great location on the beach between Ipanema and Copa (which allowed me to really explore both beaches and lots of local restaurants, pubs, etc.)
On my second trip back I stayed at Marriott on business for just 3 nights with some colleagues and managed to sneak off to the Copa termas. And reconnected with a few of my termas ladies for a great night out at Melt. I was able to bring one back to the Marriott with me because she was really well dressed and I befriended some of the desk people there. I do not think they really endorse bringing ladies back.
On my third trip in late May, I decided to explore Centro. Armed with the great reports and maps by Sperto and some other advice I received here. I decided to book a room at the Ibis Hotel Centro. Nice clean, cheap and girl-friendly (provided the girls have their IDs). From there I ventured out to the Rio Branco casas (185 was great), Termas Cancun (great selection of ladies, hardly any men at night), had some in-calls from Scort Show and Cassiascort, VM (an experience! ), and had a sleepover with Pathy from Cancun. I then went down to Rio for a great night at the Portinari Design Hotel with Pietra. Now at Luomo.
My recent trip which ended a few days ago. I rented an apartment from WonderfulCity.com (again with info from here) in a great neighborhood on Rua Barao de Ipanema. I only have 3 nights there and Wonderful City was really accomodating as I really wanted to try the apartment experience and they normally rent for a minimum of 5 nights. I would use them again anytime and actually may need their services for some tv productions I am planning in Rio. Having an apartment was great. I immediately did a dupla with some fine young mulata ladies from Cassiscort (Hanna and Naty). And we ordered in pizza and hung out. I hit Monte Carlo that night to visit with my pal Danubia (a dark black lady with the finest, tightest ass going) as I needed her sweet deep-throat and GFE kisses. I hit Help again later (again not looking to pull out anyone.) The next day, I went back Monte Carlo for sweet young Julia. This was a real treat as she looks exactly like a sexy young lady that I work with and was able to really have an amazing fantasy come true. Pietra came over to spend the night and give me that great crazy GFE all-night stuff. She's a lot of crazy fun and we just kept waking up all night. I had business meetings all the next day. That night, I was walking along Av. Atlantico.
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3 trips in 3 months
I just completed my third short trip to Rio in the last three months. My typical stay in Rio was 4 or 5 days as part of a larger trip to other Brazil cities. I am developing some new media projects in Brazil - and the internet media companies are really getting some interest down there.
Previously I had been to Rio just once for 6 days (about a year ago) and did some limited local mongering based on the terrific Bwana Dik and Bubba Boy reports. I hit Centaurus, Monte Carlo, Luomo, 4 X 4, Help and a few escorts. Overall I had great experiences, did not pull out anyone from Help, and actually befriended a few termas girls from Luomo and MC (despite my limited Porto and their limited English) and spent time at clubs together. I stayed at the girl-friendly Aporodor Inn which was a great location on the beach between Ipanema and Copa (which allowed me to really explore both beaches and lots of local restaurants, pubs, etc.)
On my second trip back I stayed at Marriott on business for just 3 nights with some colleagues and managed to sneak off to the Copa termas - and reconnected with a few of my termas ladies for a great night out at Melt. I was able to bring one back to the Marriott with me because she was really well dressed and I befriended some of the desk people there. I do not think they really endorse bringing ladies back.
On my third trip in late May, I decided to explore Centro. Armed with the great reports and maps by Sperto and some other advice I received here - I decided to book a room at the Ibis Hotel Centro. Nice clean, cheap and girl-friendly (provided the girls have their IDs). From there I ventured out to the Rio Branco casas (185 was great), Termas Cancun (great selection of ladies, hardly any men at night), had some in-calls from Scort Show and Cassiascort, VM (an experience!), and had a sleepover with Pathy from Cancun. I then went down to Rio for a great night at the Portinari Design Hotel with Pietra - now at Luomo.
My recent trip which ended a few days ago - I rented an apartment from WonderfulCity.com (again with info from here) in a great neighborhood on Rua Barao de Ipanema. I only have 3 nights there and Wonderful City was really accomodating as I really wanted to try the apartment experience and they normally rent for a minimum of 5 nights. I would use them again anytime and actually may need their services for some tv productions I am planning in Rio. Having an apartment was great. I immediately did a dupla with some fine young mulata ladies from Cassiscort (Hanna and Naty). And we ordered in pizza and hung out. I hit Monte Carlo that night to visit with my pal Danubia (a dark black lady with the finest, tightest ass going) as I needed her sweet deep-throat and GFE kisses. I hit Help again later (again not looking to pull out anyone.) The next day, I went back Monte Carlo for sweet young Julia. This was a real treat as she looks exactly like a sexy young lady that I work with and was able to really have an amazing fantasy come true. Pietra came over to spend the night and give me that great crazy GFE all-night stuff. She's a lot of crazy fun and we just kept waking up all night. I had business meetings all the next day. That night, I was walking along Av. Atlantico thinking about where to grab something to eat. It was windy, dark, and cool. It had been raining on and off. I walked up behind a garota that was walking back from a slow day at MP. Great legs stuffed into black heels, great ass stuffed into stretchy mini pants and a black blazer over a white sexy tight shirt. Very classy and eye-catchy. Kiety. I come up alongside her and look over and she gives me the killer smile. I said hello, she said hi back. I said hungry? she said yes. We stop into Garota de Copacabana and had a great meal, and a great, great conversation. First off, she sends the first waiter away because he would not let her get a question in. She was very mellow, calm and intelligent. She talked at length about mongers, being a garota, her family, her life and aspirations. Justa great conversation. I had a business meeting the next morning that I had to prepare for - but she wanted to come and hang out. As we walked, guys from neighborhood bars were cat-calling as I had my hand filmly attached to her ass. A kid approached us looking for food. Kiety gave him the left-overs we had and spent time talking to him to make sure he was okay. I always make it a point to buy food for the kids as they approach me walking past Bob's or in morning coffee spot. We sat on the balcony back at my apartment while it rained and kept the conversation going. And then we ended up in bed before I had to get back to work.
What I learned: for me the whole apartment set-up is a great relaxed way to go. I really like the whole GFE experience and the apartment is best for it. And that great experiences are really available at every turn.
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more on termas girls
I just got a PM and went ahead to answer the PM. But then I saw that there is current interest in the same topic here; so I am just answering here.
[QUOTE=***]Hi Euro100,
I arrived today in Copacabana and I stay at Hotel Premier (I followed your recomendations). Tomorrow, I wanna go to l'Uomu. Do you have any special recomendation for me to make the chemistry and invite a terma girl from l'Uomo to premier. Or dou you suggest a specific girl to see of l'uomo.
Now, in premier, they raised the guest fee to 100 Real! This is very high!
Best Regards,[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Did you get a double room, as I recommended? If yes, there should not be such an insanely high guest fee.
Here is what I do: I am always nice to the night guy at the front desk and chat a bit with him. Already on the second night I can then do the following: I tell him that I am expecting a female friend over around midnight, that I know about the rule of signing in at the front desk, but that I do not want her to feel like a wh*re. So ... could we possibly avoid this? (while handing over R20 or perhaps R40).
Not only does this safe money, but it also make the girl feel special. She is a wh*re after all and very much used to having to sign in. Just the fact that she does not have to do it at your hotel will make her feel special ... and as a consequence she will give you better GFE.
You do do the money transaction right before you leave for the terma or right after you come back. (Usually the girl does not leave L'uomo with you, but comes to your hotel independently. I wait for them in the lobby and then walk out to meet them when they arrive.) Then, when the girl arrives, you walk in with her, and with a friendly wave to the doorman you get into the elevator, and you are good. Usually the hot kissing already starts during the elevator ride.
Who do I recommend? My personal starting point would be either Ingrid or Chris. But what I really recommend is that you find somebody who turns you on, and who you develop good chemistry with.
My usual game plan is that I just hit the terma on the first evening and pick whoever my dream girl will be; then I make sure I spend a lot of time with her and only session once, and only with her. Then I leave L'uomo for the night. (If you want, you can still do a night cap at another place.) Then, on the second night, I come back to L'uomo around 9 and make sure that I only have eyes for the girl I picked the night before. Drinking, talking, perhaps dancing, definitely kissing and some groping, but only with this girl. If she has a good friend, I might also buy that friend a drink and smile to her or shake her hand during introductions. But not even a kiss on the cheek for that friend! Be careful here!!!
After an hour or so I ask my chosen one if she can come to the hotel with me for TLN, ... not as a GDP, but as my amiga. In other words, I do not want to pay. She may counter that she needs to make a living. Then I offer that I will session with her for an hour at L'uomo (which gives her plenty of money for the night), but then I would like her to come to the hotel as my amiga ... to make love, not to just have sex.
You'd be surprised how often this works. I am in Rio about 4 times per year, for a week each. A lot of the girls at L'uomo know me, but this does not seem to prevent me from playing this game. Perhaps the girls enjoy the game, too, and it provides a little change from the usual routine.
One very very serious warning, though: Do not give any real information about you to the girl. Not your real name, not your hometown, not your email, not your phone number, facebook page, whatever. What happens in Rio STAYS in Rio. Fall in love, if you can. But then cut it out completely when you enter the plane that takes you home.
Happy hunting
euro
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[QUOTE=Euro100]....
One very very serious warning, though: Do not give any real information about you to the girl. Not your real name, not your hometown, not your email, not your phone number, facebook page, whatever. What happens in Rio STAYS in Rio. Fall in love, if you can. But then cut it out completely when you enter the plane that takes you home...[/QUOTE]
Euro100 thanks for your interesting post, I am sure it can helps more than one to get even a better GFE with the termas girls, but, please, allow me to ask you why such a serious warning ? Why neither change e mail address to start a corrispondence and make easier to meet her during the next travel to Rio ? What are afraid exactly giving us this advice ?
Thanks for your answer and have fun
Cheers
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Euro..good post
Excellent idea on what you are saying. Just my two cents though. Why bother going through all this in staying in a Hotel when you can rent an apartment and not have to deal with this 'guest issue'? If one is a newbee, they will learn that renting an apartment is sooo much better than staying in a Hotel. Hotel rules drove me nits the first time I went to Rio. Ever since then I stay in an Apartment. One trip I even stayed at a GDP's apartment for a week because she became my Amiga during the recent two trips. It was great.
Geo
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Unless you need a roof top pool, there is no reason to stay in a hotel. Every apartamento has a security guard/doorman sitting at a desk in the lobby, there are some serious condos to rent in Copa/Ipanema if you want luxury as well as privacy.
I only stayed in a hotel my first trip, and have always rented an apartment for my stay in Rio.
Leave a tube of Lidocaine butt lube and a few condoms out on the nightstand, and your GDP will feel like a princessa when she arrives to your crib!
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Excellent idea on what you are saying. Just my two cents though. Why bother going through all this in staying in a Hotel when you can rent an apartment and not have to deal with this 'guest issue'? If one is a newbee, they will learn that renting an apartment is sooo much better than staying in a Hotel. Hotel rules drove me nits the first time I went to Rio. Ever since then I stay in an Apartment. One trip I even stayed at a GDP's apartment for a week because she became my Amiga during the recent two trips. It was great.
Geo[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure. Apartment may work better. But I was asked about a hotel; so I answered. I also like hotels, because they change my sheets, make the bed, clean the room, re-stock the fridge, have wireless internet, and so on.
Guest fee is not much of a problem in my book, but each of us has different boundary conditions.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Euro100 thanks for your interesting post, I am sure it can helps more than one to get even a better GFE with the termas girls, but, please, allow me to ask you why such a serious warning ? Why neither change e mail address to start a corrispondence and make easier to meet her during the next travel to Rio ? What are afraid exactly giving us this advice ?
Thanks for your answer and have fun
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Oh, I use an email address and give it to the GDPs. I also give the girls my phone number and of course my name. Just not my real ones that I use in civilian life. This way I can decide if I want to end this affair or let it go on. Once I am out of Rio, they cannot follow me.
Does the phrase "paternity lawsuit" scare you? If yes, then please follow my advice.
In the past, I did not follow my advice a couple of times, and these little affairs spilled over into my civilian life, once with the girl following me to the US. Ummm, you don't want that :(
That's why I play it safe now. If I really were to find my soul mate, then I can still make more permanent arrangements and tell her my real name and address ;)
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[QUOTE=Euro100]In the past, I did not follow my advice a couple of times, and these little affairs spilled over into my civilian life, once with the girl following me to the US. [/QUOTE]
How did she get a visa?
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Arch of Teles in Centro
Anybody go to the Arch of Teles in Centro. Its supposed to be on Praca XV. They say its an awesome place to go and hang out in Centro for Happy Hour. Tons of chics non working and pro. I hear its backstreets of outdoor bars and restaurants of people sitting at tables and hanging out having fun literally in the ally ways.
Any info?
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paternity lawsuit
Yes it scares even if, I always use condom and the only one I wanted to see again, neither wrote me e mail, but I understand you, better to not undervalue what can do a woman in love, or with a big interest, no matter if she lives on the other part of the world. ;)
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Gfe
Everyone has their own style, needs, and "game plans". And, yes, these ladies are *****s because they are accepting $ for sex. And, yes, there are crazy ladies in the mix that we need to steer clear of. And if you listen to the ladies there are some real crazy mongers among us too that like to get way too rough (this is the number one complaint I hear from the ladies.)
But - my preference is a comfortable GFE experience. And to get that, I have learned that treating them as fun-loving individuals - and not *****s - goes a long way. I feel I have a good screening sense to stay clear of the crazies.
Rather than try to convince a termas GDP to come back to my room for no money after being with her once at a termas - I have found it best to give them a nice gift of several hundred reals, & bring in some food or go grab a bite to eat together. After all, these girls are working hard all day (at least the ones I like seem to be busy because they are attractive and outgoing at work). They can either go out after work, go to someone else (and the good ones have plenty of options), go home to sleep, or come over to me. I never have negotiated the payment upfront with termas girls that came over for the night (I negotiate for a living and don't want to do it during my leisure time), I just went with the flow, see where the night went and slipped some R$ in their pocket when saying goodbye. They never counted it, never complained, and they came back again. I sensed they really liked just having a normal fun night. I have no problem spending $100 to $200 US for a night out back in the states - so giving this to a lady for an entire night of great sex and laughs is nothing. Because of the way I approach this, I also feel that the ladies see me as a fun friend. I have been invited out to clubs with them (where I meet their other friends), and I had them buy me drinks, breakfast, lunch or pick up a taxi fare. I've even had several instances where they brought a friend back from the club with us. I have their cell #'s, call them when I return to Rio, and let the good times roll.
Like I said, I certainly understand and respect that everyone has their own mongering game plans. To some, it is how much different pussy they can get for the least R$. But - for me - I have a real comfort zone in just relaxing (while still being alert to warning signs), going with the flow, and seeing these ladies as fun-loving individuals first. I don't care about snapping pictures of them as if they were same prize-game that I bagged. An inexpensive meal together can turn into a great conversation where you learn alot about Brazil and its' culture (and learn more great Porto phrases). I never spend an outrageous amount of money during my short trips, and never feel I overpaid anyone.
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Conclusion: Learnings
1. [b]Don’t revive relationships with GDPs if it’s been more than a few months since you’ve seen them.[/b] I thought I could restart something with Luany, and as I said I’ve got regulars elsewhere. I’ve realized from this trip that part of the reason for that is that I make the trips every few months, which seems to be often enough to maintain a connection and mutual interest.
2. [b]Don’t buy alcohol for GDPs.[/b] I will now institute this new rule, and I’ll see how long it lasts. It will chase away probably >=80-90% of the garotas and chicas out there but I need some way to separate the wheat from the chaff. When I think back about all the very best times I had in this hobby, one common denominator is that the girl either didn’t drink or drank only reluctantly. I need to find these girls, not the ones that need to be wasted to be with a customer and/or pass out before we can have sex.
3. [b]Best new venue discoveries: BA85 and Termas 65.[/b] BA85 deserves mention for its affordability and surprisingly attractive girls (for the money.) Termas 65 deserves mention for its really attractive and quite friendly girls, even if it tends towards the high end pricewise.
4. [b]Best new garota discoveries: Camila (L’uomo), Julie (Termas 65) and Sue Ellen (NS 583 #204.)[/b] All are wonderful GFEs that I couldn’t get enough of.
5. [b]The Golden Age of Rio may be dead.[/b] Consider
- I remember when the Real was 3-4 to $1, not 1.5-2 to $1.
- I remember when Help was full of semi-pros with interesting life stories, not the same hardened pros night after night.
- I remember when Termas girls would meet me at my hotel and repeatedly fuck my brains out all night, not demand payment and/or expensive dates first before doing this.
- I remember when you could count on a girl being there the next day and not blowing you off
- Most importantly, I remember feeling like a kid in a candy store with the confidence that I couldn’t make a wrong choice, not having to go through an arduous and lengthy screening process for each girl in order to be assured of a good time.
Part of this may just be a hedonistic treadmill, but it seems like each trip here gets to be more and more work.
6. [b]Ingrid is an exception.[/b] In particular she is an exception to learnings #1-2 and the last part of #5. All the Red Bull and Vodka isn’t cheap, but it fuels her dancing skills, which is one of many great things about her.
7. [b]One more time with apologies to Chris Rock:[/b]
[QUOTE=Chris Rock]Don’t go to parties with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside. But what about all those motherfuckers outside waiting with guns? They know you ain’t got one.[/QUOTE]
:)
As with all of what I post, constructive comments and replies are welcome.
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Day 10: Saturday Fun at NS 583 #203-4
[b]203:[/b]
I showed up at 12:30 PM. No entrada. I was told that girls were supposed to be there but I saw no girls there. The management, an old man and an old woman (possibly a married couple?) suggested that I stay and told me that I could watch TV or get a massage until the girls arrived. I told them that I may return and went to 204.
[b]204:[/b]
Four girls were there, including one by the name of Bihana, a dark-haired, olive skinned girl. She latched herself on to me despite an unenthusiastic greeting. She seemed extremely tired during our conversation, and begged repeatedly to go to a cabine. So many red flags that I had to say no. Sure enough, she moved over to the corner and slept. Around 2 PM, there were seven girls and Bihana was still sleeping. One in particular caught my eye: a tanned woman, with long dark hair and green eyes. Her name was Sue Ellen, she’s 30 years old, and she had that smoldering look you find in some Italian women.
We talked in the bar for a long time. She smiled, laughed at my jokes, and at times leaned in to hug me gently. She never asked for a drink, and didn’t ask to go to the room. I thought she would never ask and I was on a schedule so I broached the subject. R$120 for 30 min. One of my best experiences and discoveries in Rio! DFK, BBBJ to start. When it was time for sex, she climbed on, and then I finished lying on top of her quasi-doggy style. I didn’t realize how much time we had left, and so we basked in some wonderful afterglow: massaged each other, massaged each other’s genitals, kissed some more, and exchanged loving glances that say more than words ever could. Damned luck that I meet her on my last day!
One final note: I asked for and received permission to use their showers. I didn’t want to go to the airport smelling of perfume and sweat.
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Day 9: BA 85, Uruguaiana 24, L’uomo
On that day, I had two warm-ups before another anticipated session with Ingrid:
[b]BA 85 3rd floor:[/b]
The hot blonde in the red bikini was not there, but there was another hottie there. She was a slim frosted blonde in a black & red bikini. The bottom barely covered her snatch. After watching her and being mesmerized by her beauty I tried to wave, wink, get her to notice me, but no dice. So I went up to talk to her and she turned around and walked away from me. Finally, I rubbed her ass and all I got is an ice-cold look directed my way. If she’s a cold fish outside the room, she’ll be a cold fish inside the room. Since I didn’t see Julia, that was enough of that. This was about the time that Christopherd mentioned Uruguaiana 24, and more importantly mentioned that the stairs are easier to navigate.
[b]Uruguaiana 24[/b]
This place is a bit of a hike from BA85. It’s an even longer hike to find a doable girl here, as I didn’t really find any stunners in a quick survey of each floor. But, on the top floor, there was a blonde in a white bikini by the name of Cara. She’s 28, and a little thicker than normal, but as she bent over to pick something up I couldn’t help but imagine what it would be like to slam that ass doggy for 15 minutes. I smiled her way and she did respond in kind. I waved her over, and she sat down. We talked for a little while. I asked if she kisses. She pulled back and did a double take before looking me up and down and eventually saying OK. We go to a room, R$18 for 15 min., including the condom. Now this room is considerably worse than BA85’s rooms. It’s filthy, condom wrappers all over the floor, grotty bed sheets that don’t even make a pretense of covering the entire mattress, the mattress had sweat stains and a giant hole in it, and the sheets had a used condom hidden in the folds. As I reached to put it in the trash (thinking that Cara might actually want to use the bed), I was [i]so[/i] glad to have my hand sanitizer with me. Cara arrived, did some perfunctory kissing, a CBJ, and my fantasy came true: 15 minutes of doggy-banging that ass.
I returned to [b]BA 85, 3rd floor:[/b]
Julia kisses me hello, but says that she must spend time with another client. So, I picked Lamires (memory may not serve me here), 26, light brown hair, from Rio. We talked for a while and then she tried to trick me into a 30 min. program despite a sign pointing out that 15 min programs were available. She offered only some LK, no DFK even though I specifically asked about this, CBJ (I won’t go BB for anything with these women), then we banged doggy. She really wanted me to come, so we tried with me on top.
[b]L’uomo: I should pay you[/b]
No Ingrid! Was she sick again? Thankfully, Camilia was there. In the cabine, I gave her DATY (using my mouth as a humming vibrator again), and a massage.
She claimed to have had an orgasm. I responded with some skepticism. She immediately grabbed my hand, and stuck it in her pussy to show me how wet it was. OK, so I guess she must have had an orgasm or at the very least she was very aroused. “I should pay you,” she said at one point. “It wouldn’t be the first time,” I replied.
We spent most of the rest of the night together (until she had to leave early), and yet other girls caught my wandering eye’s notice.
Doris: a blonde girl with shoulder length hair and very large breasts. She seems to be quite popular but I couldn’t tell if her breasts were fake or real. One normally asks or feels to answer this question. I didn’t pursue anything with her because I noticed that she didn’t spend a lot of time in conversation with guys before heading to the room. I don’t consider this a good sign. She is a heck of a good dancer though.
Diana: she wanted to have sex with me again and approached me after Camila left. Now, the last time we were together she explicitly said that she was pissed that I didn’t come with her. Her anger dissipated that day, and she begged and begged and begged for more time with me.
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Day 8: 502, BA 85, The Return of Ingrid
[b]502: I finally get around to it[/b]
R$20 entrance (includes 3 drinks), R$90 30 min (I’m not 100% sure on this price), R$190 1 hr. I owe Pelicano a large and long-overdue thank you for PMing me detailed and helpful information about this underreported place. When I arrived, it wasn’t that long after opening. I think I was the second customer of the day, and about 5 other girls were there. Most were talking amongst themselves and didn’t look or try to catch my attention when I walked by. Take note: I made a pit stop and noticed that the boite bathroom had only a urinal and no toilet.
I winked at a cute reddish/brown-haired girl who winked back. After some more distance flirting, I waved her over and we started talking. Her name is Renata she’s 25, with dark reddish-brown hair, from Rio. When we got to talking, I tried some of Bubba Boy’s interview questions. One of which is “Are you the best girl here?” She demurred and looked away at first. Then, she brushed her hair away from her face and without a word, threw her arms around me, threw herself on me, and kissed me passionately. This is the right answer! Yes, normally one would not rent the suite for the first time with a garota, but when she passes the interview with flying colors she gets what she wants. In the room, we filled the time with some DATY and a massage from me. I noticed that the suite has (among other things) a sex chair and a chart demonstrating some sexual positions possible with the chair. I asked Renata if clients ever use it. Her response: “Yes, but not often.” I thought these things were a clever gimmick, but I’ve yet to try one….
[b]BA 85 3rd floor (with GFE!?)[/b]
After making the arduous climb up 5 flights of stairs, and carefully surveying the offerings on each floor, I concluded that the highest ratio of pretty girls was on the 3rd floor. So I stayed there. After looking around, a garota by the name of Julia, 33 years old, with dark wavy hair caught my eye. I waved hello and she smiled. In contrast to many other girls, she was willing to sit down and talk with me for a while first. When it was time to go to the room, I paid the R$15 + R$2 for the condom and off we went. The rooms were surprisingly tolerable for the price: not spotless of course but not horribly dirty or smelly. We tried multiple positions but I wasn’t able to come.
Julia gave me her number afterwards and asked me to call her. She could be my guide to the city, she told me. I’d have to think about it, but I walked away surprised by how much of a GFE-like experience that was. (Strictly speaking of course, it was not—it was only 2/4 in key elements: Good kissing-yes. BBBJ-no. DATY-no. Pleasant conversation with a good rapport-yes.)
The other doable girls on the 3rd floor included one blonde in a red bikini. I wanted to move in but she kept getting taken.
By the way, I must dispute the assertion that only one person at a time can ascend/descend the staircase there. It absolutely [b]looks[/b] that way, but I’ve seen and done the two-person crossing. How does it work? Hint: think of Caine walking the rice paper in [i]Kung Fu[/i]. Gracefully (well as gracefully as possible under the circumstances) twist your body and your feet around and step lightly and delicately. The other guy does the same. Then, Grasshopper, your steps will not be heard. And oh yes, you each get past.
Others on this board have expressed some concerns about the consequences of a Gringo invasion. What if word gets out that this place is as cheap as VM (R$1/min.!) but is without the smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and shit and with less than a majority of the garotas beaten with an ugly stick. Well, it’s too late: every time I went here I was told that many more Gringos had been coming lately. I was also pressed for tips, which I politely declined. I’m a Gringo but I’m not that stupid.
[b]The Return of Ingrid[/b]
She was out for the past week (sick, she said.) We embrace, and it feels just like Old Times. She remembered me and I never forgot about her. We went to dance after she got some Red Bull and Vodka for fuel. As we started, I recalled how she has a way of banging her ass against yours, feeling out your erection, grabbing it with her butt cheeks and rubbing it even harder. Of course, this sent me reeling in ecstasy and my dick aching to be inside her. We headed to a cabine for a great and all-too-short 40 min. I will say this about her as well:
1. The implants look fantastic!
2. Her English was a lot better than I remember last time and she wasn’t shy about practicing.
3. Her service was as great as ever and she was as popular as ever.
Thoroughly worn out, I headed back to the hotel.
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Day 7: Termas 65, 4 x 4, and Monte Carlo
[b]Termas 65: (No) more of Julie?[/b]
Julie was not there when I arrived. I decided to stay and see if another girl could arouse my interest. I had a rather pleasant conversation with a blonde by the name of Letina (if memory serves which it probably doesn’t in this case). My mind was unfortunately so focused on Julie that I now realize that I blew this opportunity. Letina was a perfectly sweet, nice, well-spoken, and helpful girl, but I blew her off waiting for another. I left when I inquired at the reception whether Julie would be there or not and they informed me that no, Julie was not scheduled for the day.
[b]4 x 4: The Strip Show[/b]
I walked over to 4 x 4, I had dinner, and then I headed into the bar for the strip show. I know that this show has its fans, but I noticed a disturbing trend last year that unfortunately continued unabated this year. Of course, the bomba girls with the monster ass/thighs make up the bulk of the garotas and the bulk of the dancers there as well. The unfortunate side effect of this regimen is clitoral hypertrophy. I had commented last year that when some of the girls were aroused, their clitorises rivaled some of the guys’ penises in size. The same remains true for many of the dancers this year. What was even more disturbing was that the emcee decided to grab, squeeze, and play with these oversized clitorises in public. Neither I nor my stomach lasted long in the face of such behavior.
On the way out I ran into Katlin, 25 with brown hair. She said that she was a student who’d be leaving this job soon (Yeah, yeah I know they all say this. I’ve developed a screen where I ask about her career path and this seems to ferret out some of the liars.) We talked for a while and then grabbed an hour-long suite. In the room, she remained very tender with me and I with her. I gladly spend ½ hr DATY until neither she nor my tongue could take it anymore. I got a very positive response for one technique in particular: if you hum at a very low frequency from the base of your throat and purse your lips in the right place on her, your mouth acts as a vibrator. If she’s aroused, she’ll respond as Katlin did—just like putting an actual vibrator on her clit.
Afterwards, I ran into a fellow hobbyist who was on his way out and was headed to MC. He recommended that I come along so I did.
[b]Return to Monte Carlo[/b]
I am told that the L’uomo and Monte Carlo termas wind up exchanging crews every so often (typically on the girls’ initiative, not the management’s.) I was here a while ago and had a good time with a girl named Bruna from Florianopolis who resembled [i]THE[/i] Burna (Surfistinha.)
Once in the boite I was approached by Giselle, best described as a bootylicious afro-Brazilian who offered me popcorn but put it in strategic places for me to take (her bra, her mouth, her thong) and only take with my mouth—she’d swat my hand away if I reached with it. Sadly, she wasn’t much for conversation. My experience is that the stunners who approach you aggressively (as Giselle did) and are unwilling to talk with you just do not measure up in the room.
Seated nearby was Christianha, 25, with blonde hair in a red bikini and a hot push-up bra. Hindsight is always 20/20, but in retrospect she seemed a little colder in conversation than most other girls that I’ve talked to. When we went to the room, I had to instruct her to slow down several times. She banged me fast and hard thinking that this would get me off quickly. She was wrong. In fairness to her, she ultimately proved coachable and open to a variety of positions and tactics including 69, HJ, and when we were ready, the best part: sensual sex in the missionary position. We could and did hold back to admire the beauty in each other’s eyes.
This took me to closing time, so without much ado I said goodbye to Christianha, got dressed, and headed to the reception to settle the bill. When I got there, I found that the bar had charged me for a beer for Giselle rather than the Coke that she ordered. Check your bill carefully, people! The receptionist kindly corrected this error.
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Day 6: Termas 65 and L’uomo
[b]Termas 65: More Pleasant Discoveries[/b]
So, any further sessions with Ane were off the table. I went to Termas 65, as I hear that lately it’s been getting better and better reviews. This is deservedly so, as one of the best girls of my trip was a girl from here. More generally, these girls are very pretty—and many have less gangsta ink than you’d find in a 4 x 4 girl. Entry is R$70; I don’t remember the session prices, except to say that it was more than 4 x 4.
I had a memorable time with Julie, a spinner who is 22 and from Rio with brown hair. She has such a beautiful smile and I’d love to show you but she and several other girls were quite explicit that I not post pictures. I’ll keep my promise to them and refrain from doing so.
She was happy to take her time with me, no matter what we were doing. We had a great conversation in the boite that flowed effortlessly into slow, sensual foreplay in the room. We kissed, gradually building up our passion. She sucked on my lips until they tingled in anticipation of more from her. Now, she’s very short and thus at one point she had to stand up on the bed to continue. She cradled my head in her hands, pulled me in close to suck on my lips, and then reached down to grab and massage my already erect cock. We continued with a little bit of dry humping with her hand teasingly and strategically grabbing and guiding my cock to prevent penetration. When we finally did have sex, I did not last long. It’s a good thing too because within probably 1 minute of my coming the phone rang and we had to leave. I asked if she would be there tomorrow and she said yes; so I made plans to return.
[b]A party and some no-shows at L’uomo[/b]
But first I had to return to a favorite. L’uomo was having a party that day. The bar was decorated like a flapper party from the 20’s, complete with Flapper girls. The food was not good. I would have expected better from a party (cake, anyone?) Oh well.
Camila wasn’t around that day. But I did find Diana, 23, from Rio. Her smile revealed a mouthful of braces, which I found both cute and irresistible. She was a cuddly, spinner type in and outside the room. Unfortunately Julie had taken all my leite earlier so I couldn’t come and boy, was Diana pissed about that! Such a shame, as she was a good session up until that point.
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Day 5: L’uomo, Help
[b]L’uomo: Torn between two lovers[/b]
I went to L’uomo hoping to see Camila, but she was busy. Ane was not and joined me in the relax lounge in the back. We started making out, and she went up to get us some drinks. While she’s doing this, Camila comes in and then we start making out. (I can’t help it, she jumped me before I could say anything!) And then Ane returns….
Now, what would you do when you’re doing 2 girls in a terma and they catch you with the other and you must pick? To me, one answer is obvious: you don’t pick, you do a threesome. You watch as your girls undress each other and suck on each other’s nipples to warm them up. You watch as your girls (who it turns out are friends and get along [i]really[/i] well) liberally kiss and lick each other all over and then invite you in to taste their lips—simultaneously. You watch as Camila eats out Ane (and Ane’s eyes roll back in her head from the pleasure) and then Camila begs you to do her doggy style. You go to eat Ane out (and finish the job) while Camila blows you. You then literally come full circle when Ane eats out Camila. You take and treasure pictures of the experience even if the girls won’t let you post them. Finally, you curse your luck that you rented a cabine and only have 40 minutes of this.
I would have loved to continue this, I felt like a king. Unfortunately the night at L’uomo ended quickly and Camila had to go home. Ane and I made arrangements to go to Help.
[b]A Date at Help: Feelin’ like a fool[/b]
When we went to Help, unfortunately things went downhill. I made the mistake of buying her alcohol, and she got very heavily drunk over the course of the night. She danced for me throughout the night. Each dance got progressively worse, more spastic, and less coordinated until by 3AM she was just lurching around and I had to escort her out holding her by the waist. We started to have sex when we got back to my hotel room, but she was too tired. We did have sex in the morning, though.
[b]Loving both of them is breaking all the rules.[/b]
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Day 4: VM, L’uomo
[b]vila mimosa: hell in heaven or heaven in hell?[/b]
disclaimer: this was my first time there. i’m told that this is a place you just have to experience for yourself, and moreover no rio monger earns his stripes without going there.
i had sperto’s map, and i knew that i had to depart at são cristóvão metro. there are two possible exits from this station, one north and one south. i misread sperto’s map and initially took the north exit. this takes you to a neighborhood that is way too nice to be on the way to vm. i knew that i had taken a wrong turn and i reversed course, heading east from the south exit. if one continues on the north side of that road, eventually you have a military base on your left and a favela on your right. i was looking for an underpass or a gate, but after 20 minutes i figured that i had taken a wrong turn. clearly, the safest thing to do was to take a taxi. so i did. [b]to christopherd, sperto, and the other vm connoisseurs: where did i make a wrong turn on that trip to vm?[/b] once i head out of são cristóvão station, what specifically do i look for and how do i know if i’ve gone too far?
vm has been described as being similar to mos eisley space port from [i]star wars[/i]. this is true, but an understatement. bwana dik’s guide has said that if cleanliness is next to godliness, vm is next to hell. this too is true, but also an understatement. it is both the loudest and the dirtiest place that i’ve ever been to on this earth. every stall (i will use the word stall to mean bar because many bars weren’t much bigger than 2-3 bathroom stalls put together) smelled of either [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] except for one that smelled of marijuana. every one. and the stalls even in the daytime were very dark. if there were any pretty girls there they were only so compared to ones that have been beaten, choked, thrashed, and stabbed with multiple ugly sticks. the core female constituency that day was mostly grandmothers, bulldog-faces, and 90-kg.+ whales. one mocha skinned spinner standing outside a stall in a hot black thong looked college age (19-20) and relatively doable from behind so i went over to talk to her. when i got a closer look at her front and specifically the lines on her face, she appeared to be mid-30s and so i passed. i wasn’t the only one eschewing the girls for other things: many locals opted simply to walk in, snack on some food, find a stall to drink some beer, play video games, and then leave. i found a cab driver who without my even prompting him in any way asked “copacabana?” “são cristóvão metro,” i replied. was my gringoness and my contempt and disgust [i]that[/i] obvious?
folks, i wish that i were kidding about or exaggerating this, i really do. unfortunately i am not.
i will conclude on a positive note by saying two good things about this place: it’s cheap (r$3 beer if memory serves and of course, r$20 for 20 min.), and despite the lack of a visible police presence i never once felt unsafe or hassled there.
[b]l’uomo: back where i belong[/b]
having now earned my rio stripes, i showered and returned to l’uomo. btw, that was the most i have ever needed a shower in a [i]long[/i] time. when i got settled in, ane, a garota with olive skin and short blonde hair came over. another man i was chatting with earlier said that she wore him out, and that she’s an energizer bunny second only to ingrid. while i was watching a game on tv, she kept stroking me all over with her long fingernails. this trick worked very well! in the cabine, she had a good kissing technique with slow dfk. after a bbbj and some daty, we had sex. we then met again afterward and cuddled until closing time.
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Day 3: L’uomo—Pleasant Discoveries
On this day, I had one of the more pleasant encounters of my trip: a session with Camila. She’s 25, from Rio, ex-Centaurus, and with blonde hair. She and I actually met the day before as I was leaving. Had I not known that she was a working girl, I would have assumed that she worked in a library: she was wearing some nondescript pink hair clips, and a flannel shirt and somewhat baggy jeans. She had me smitten at that point, as she was a GDP who didn’t obviously look or act the part.
When we went to the cabine, I did my best to hold my leite until the end. This was difficult as she’s such a good kisser and enthusiastic dick sucker. After I came, we had quite a bit of time left for pillow talk. She asked whether I liked her better in pink or black lingerie, as I had seen her in black in the boite but pink (and lacy style) in the cabine. Black stands out better against her lighter skin, but the pink looked more feminine so I told her to go with that.
This was the day of the big Brazil vs. USA football match. I was surprised by the number of Americans who not only came to watch, but who were open about their nationality. Don’t they know that they risked a severe skull-bashing if the USA had won? Thank goodness that I didn’t have to find out. As we all know by now the USA lost.
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Day 2: Copa and Centro Termas
[b]NS Copacabana 583 #203-4: Two New Experiences[/b]
For those who don’t know, these are a couple of cheaper termas located in Copacabana. Please note that as I stated previously, you must climb 2 flights of stairs (up past the gym also numbered in the 200s) and go all the way to the other end of the hallway to reach both places. In both cases, there is no entry fee and you don’t change into a robe.
I didn’t see a masseuse or sauna in 204, but here’s what I did see inside there that day:
At ~2PM on a Friday afternoon, there were 6-7 girls. Most were dark-skinned, all were content to chat amongst themselves and not respond to any of my flirting, smiles, winks, or nods, and so after 1 R$5 Coke (no water available here), I left.
At 203:
There is a yellow sign out front with the words “Massage, Termas, Sauna.” There is also a metal detector visible from the entrance. For some reason these words of wisdom from Chris Rock popped into my head.
[QUOTE=Chris Rock]Don’t go to parties with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside. But what about all those motherfuckers outside waiting with guns? They know you ain’t got one.[/QUOTE]
So I didn’t go inside that day.
[b]4 x 4: Two Reunions[/b]
Once again, I took the Metro. I met Luany and discussed what we should do over the weekend. At this point, I felt even further out of sync with her: we couldn’t agree on what to do, so I decided not to pursue this relationship any further.
My crush/crash from last year, Laila, recognized me and wanted a drink. I asked what kind, she said Red Bull and vodka. She wants the most expensive drink on the menu? I don’t think so! This is a shame because apart from the attitude and in terms of appearance, she is the kind of girl I look for and like—petite, blue- and doe-eyed, long-haired, cute smile, pretty- and young-faced spinner.
Once again, after wandering around some more, I felt saudades of another terma and headed there.
[b]L’uomo: Attack the two Babyfaces[/b]
The “Backwards Hat” mafia seems to have set up camp here now as well, as this would be the first of several days that I saw them there. I recognized and was recognized by Jamile and Ingrid. Both are of course extremely popular and by all accounts this attention is warranted. Beatriz (who I believe has been reported here before) came up to me and started grinding her bunda into my crotch. Since this was followed immediately by pleas to go to the cabine, I declined.
However, I met and went to a cabine with a new girl. Her name is Luna, she’s 21 with dyed blonde hair and is from Goianas. She’s got a goofy but cute smile. Her kissing was aggressive with lots of teeth action at first. The good news is that she’s trainable: I backed off and she caught on and kissed more gently. She moved in slowly, worked her tongue in, and kept her teeth out of the kiss. She did offer BBBJ and DFK (I can’t [b][i]believe[/b][/i] that I have to ask about this now.) She also did cowgirl, missionary, and doggy. The latter looked particularly hot as we both glanced at me pounding her from behind in the mirror. After showering and cleaning up, she and I snuggled until closing time. Intermittently, other girls threw stuff at us. We were so content that it must have looked like we were going to nod off but we didn’t budge.
While we were resting, I tried an experiment. NLP practitioners claim that if you match someone’s breathing (i.e. breathe at the same rate and intensity that they do), you can silently build enough rapport that eventually they will try to match your breathing. My experience with this experiment said no. After syncing up, no matter how long I waited to break the pattern, she kept in her own rhythm. I did not take this as a good sign. If we don’t have rapport on the most basic of biological levels, how can we have rapport on other levels?
As a final note, towards the end of the night, I saw 2 locals come in who couldn’t have been much more than 24, if that. These young babyfaces were almost instantly mobbed by 4 girls who wanted to feel them up, kiss them, and grab their crotches. No other guests got this treatment. I asked one of the girls and she told me that they weren’t regulars, so that’s not why those guys were treated that way. Who says looks don’t matter for the girls too?
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Day 1: My Arrival
[b]Preliminaries:[/b]
Again, I want to thank Mr. Enternational and TJ Fannatic for their advice on transportation. I wound up taking the R$12 shuttle. Even though my place wasn’t on the driver’s list of stops, he was kind enough to make the door-to-door trip anyway. In fairness, maybe this was because I was the only person he was driving.
Even though I’d be there for 10 days, I decided to stay in a hotel rather than an apartment. It’s almost certainly more expensive but here’s the thing: I like the quiet. Were I to rent an apartment my neighbor might be blasting his loud stereo until 4 in the morning and beyond. My fears were confirmed when several days later I ran into some fellow hobbyists staying in apartments who admitted to doing this. They were all good guys of course and one of many reasons that I can say this is because I didn’t have to sleep next door to them.
Once I settled on a place to sleep and how to get there, I needed a place to eat. I can recommend a nice Qilo restaurant on Rua Tonelero near the Siqueira Campos Metro stop. It’s close to my hotel and fit within my lunch budget (~R$10 and below.)
[b]4 x 4: The [i]Braveheart[/i] Trick[/b]
After unpacking and getting settled, I took the Metro to 4 x 4.
Some background for the next part of this report: in the movie [i]Braveheart[/i], as a boy a young William Wallace received a flower from a girl at his father’s funeral. He kept said flower for years and gave it back to the girl (now all grown up) who at that point was so touched that she became his forever.
Now, I admitted in an earlier post that I don’t throw out phone numbers. So, I decided to try a similar experiment with Luany, a blonde girl with large, natural breasts who I had met last year. She gave me her number and said to call, but thanks to our schedules it didn’t work out for us to meet. I kept her number and showed it to her to gauge her reaction and as proof that I felt saudades of her. Her response was not much different from the movie! She smiled the happiest that I’ve ever seen her, and spent the rest of the night asking to marry me at various points. It was a nice ego boost, even if I didn’t think she was serious.
While catching up on what we’d been doing the past year, the conversation drifted to the then recent death of Michael Jackson.
“Do you know how he died?” she asked.
“The news said that it was a heart attack,” I responded.
“No, it’s drugs,” was her reply.
This was before word got out about all the Diprivan and Demerol that he was taking. I do admire the insight that GDPs (and all working girls for that matter) seem to have into human nature.
We went to the room, and I got to do the DFK and DATY that I like. She also eagerly deep throated me which aroused (pun intended) my interests. I regret to say that the chemistry wasn’t there and the feelings wound up not being mutual. She kissed quite aggressively, liberally using her teeth. She guided my hands over her breasts and her body at her whim. I’m all for making the girl happy and following suggestions but running the show is my job and not hers, especially if I’m paying for it.
It was after 5 PM when I returned to the main bar. In past years this place would get as packed and as hot as a fraternity basement, complete with goofy folks in backwards baseball caps who use the occasion to bare and beat their chests. Well, I don’t know if the recession is causing people to stay away, but for once I could breathe and move around in there.
Nonetheless, I needed to eat and headed up to the VIP bar to get a steak and some fries. It was the most deserted I have ever seen it, especially this late in the day. No girls. No guys at all other than me. I had to call out for the bartender. Do people not know about this place anymore? This wouldn’t be the only time this trip that this happened to me.
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May I Jump In?
I hope no one minds if I interject with this extended trip report from a while back....
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder][b]NS Copacabana 583 #203-4: Two New Experiences[/b]
For those who don’t know, these are a couple of cheaper termas located in Copacabana. Please note that as I stated previously, you must climb 2 flights of stairs (up past the gym also numbered in the 200s) and go all the way to the other end of the hallway to reach both places. In both cases, there is no entry fee and you don’t change into a robe.
I didn’t see a masseuse or sauna in 204, but here’s what I did see inside there that day:
At ~2PM on a Friday afternoon, there were 6-7 girls. Most were dark-skinned, all were content to chat amongst themselves and not respond to any of my flirting, smiles, winks, or nods, and so after 1 R$5 Coke (no water available here), I left.
At 203:
There is a yellow sign out front with the words “Massage, Termas, Sauna.” There is also a metal detector visible from the entrance. For some reason these words of wisdom from Chris Rock popped into my head.
So I didn’t go inside that day.
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I was in both places this past Saturday because I only had 30 min to spare, coming from the stairway I assume 204 is on the right, I didn't like what I saw and left, I could hear their disapointment.
So I went into the other place on the left, I guess that's 203, I guess the metal detector went off when I went thru it or is it just a warning device to let you in? I don't know. I went in and spoke to Bum Bum, tall black girl, pretty face, real nice size tits, we went in the back gave me the full treatment, looked at my pau and gave the the ah Nossa?, well I dropped 100 mg of blue the night before so it was still working, needed to get rid of some wood quickly. Ok, 132 reais for 30 min because I used my cr card so they added 20% on, nice and quick which is was all I could do
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder][b]Vila Mimosa: Hell in Heaven or Heaven in Hell?[/b]
Disclaimer: this was my first time there. I’m told that this is a place you just have to experience for yourself, and moreover no Rio monger earns his stripes without going there.
I had Sperto’s map, and I knew that I had to depart at São Cristóvão Metro. There are two possible exits from this station, one north and one south. I misread Sperto’s map and initially took the north exit. This takes you to a neighborhood that is way too nice to be on the way to VM. I knew that I had taken a wrong turn and I reversed course, heading east from the south exit. If one continues on the north side of that road, eventually you have a military base on your left and a favela on your right. I was looking for an underpass or a gate, but after 20 minutes I figured that I had taken a wrong turn. Clearly, the safest thing to do was to take a taxi. So I did. [b]To Christopherd, Sperto, and the other VM connoisseurs: where did I make a wrong turn on that trip to VM?[/b] Once I head out of São Cristóvão station, what specifically do I look for and how do I know if I’ve gone too far?[/QUOTE]
Hats off for that fabulous series of reports, Gfe Finder!
On the road to VM thing, you might not need this if it's not, after all, quite your thing. But who knows, you may give it another shot. Or for others who need the info -
Although Cristóvão is supposed to be the easiest, I rarely use it (buses drop you much closer or the Afonso Pena walk** is nicer and the same distance). However, I cut my teeth on it so to speak. For what they're worth, here's some ideas -
Remember the direction the train is travelling in when you get off at Cristóvão. Face that direction along the platform. Turn left across the footbridge to the main road station exits.
Here's a [url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=rua%20ceara%2C%20rio%20de%20janeiro&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl"]google map[/url] *
As you can see, it's possible to walk from either side of the station (at least now the rail crossing by Francisco Eugenio has re-opened) but I've only gone that way (the north exit) at night once. There's often taxis at that exit. But on the south (more usual) exit on the other hand, there's reassuringly lots of people. Get off the north side during the day to visit the park, the museum or take pictures of the glorious Apollo temple in the middle of the lake (or the cruddy zoo). This is where North Zone carioca families go to chill and it's usually ok during the day. Sounds like you went much further though. If you go to VM that way, you have to take a [b][i]sharp[/i][/b] right as you exit, not follow the road next to the park which is maybe where you went(?) You get to Francisco Eugenio - a wide street that becomes dual carriageway. Big official-looking buildings on your left and an unkempt railway line on your right. There used to be a footbridge into VM that way but it was closed and demolished and they reopened the level crossing (on the map, it's just a continuation of Rua Ceará.)
Crossing the footbridge in the station to the south, left from your direction of travel, you might even hear the roar of traffic before you go out through the ticket barriers. Unlike the other side, you're coming out onto a very big, very busy, very fast freeway with many lanes. The traffic will be whizzing past you from left to right as you descend from the station.
As you come down the (southside) steps from the station, you'll probably see popcorn and other stalls selling cheap snacks and drinks.
There's also many buses screeching to a stop, but not going the way you want to go.
When you descend to the pavement, turn left. This means you are looking at the traffic as it rushes towards you. You are going parallel to the metro track, back along the way you came. The pavement gets very narrow. Don't let that freak you out.
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[i][color=gray]*I've centred the map on Rua Ceará rather than on Sotero dos Reis (Mimosa), simply cos that way it includes Cristovao and VM quite nicely. Hopes it comes out ok on other folk's computers.
**[url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=mariz%20e%20barros%2C%20rio%20de%20janeiro&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl"]via Mariz e Barros[/url], and cross the footbridge over Praca da Bandeira. This is a nice walk with some reasonable restaurants. Saves changing Metros as well. But as you can see it's less straight forward, so helpful if you keep a map - or sense of direction - with you the first time[/color][/i]
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Hats off for that fabulous series of reports, Gfe Finder!
On the road to VM thing, you might not need this if it's not, after all, quite your thing. But who knows, you may give it another shot. Or for others who need the info -
Although Cristóvão is supposed to be the easiest, I rarely use it (buses drop you much closer or the Afonso Pena walk** is nicer and the same distance). However, I cut my teeth on it so to speak. For what they're worth, here's some ideas -
Remember the direction the train is travelling in when you get off at Cristóvão. Face that direction along the platform. Turn left across the footbridge to the main road station exits.
Here's a [url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=rua%20ceara%2C%20rio%20de%20janeiro&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl"]google map[/url] *
As you can see, it's possible to walk from either side of the station (at least now the rail crossing by Francisco Eugenio has re-opened) but I've only gone that way (the north exit) at night once. There's often taxis at that exit. But on the south (more usual) exit on the other hand, there's reassuringly lots of people. Get off the north side during the day to visit the park, the museum or take pictures of the glorious Apollo temple in the middle of the lake (or the cruddy zoo). This is where North Zone carioca families go to chill and it's usually ok during the day. Sounds like you went much further though. If you go to VM that way, you have to take a [b][i]sharp[/i][/b] right as you exit, not follow the road next to the park which is maybe where you went(?) You get to Francisco Eugenio - a wide street that becomes dual carriageway. Big official-looking buildings on your left and an unkempt railway line on your right. There used to be a footbridge into VM that way but it was closed and demolished and they reopened the level crossing (on the map, it's just a continuation of Rua Ceará.)
Crossing the footbridge in the station to the south, left from your direction of travel, you might even hear the roar of traffic before you go out through the ticket barriers. Unlike the other side, you're coming out onto a very big, very busy, very fast freeway with many lanes. The traffic will be whizzing past you from left to right as you descend from the station.
As you come down the (southside) steps from the station, you'll probably see popcorn and other stalls selling cheap snacks and drinks.
There's also many buses screeching to a stop, but not going the way you want to go.
When you descend to the pavement, turn left. This means you are looking at the traffic as it rushes towards you. You are going parallel to the metro track, back along the way you came. The pavement gets very narrow. Don't let that freak you out.
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[i][color=gray]*I've centred the map on Rua Ceará rather than on Sotero dos Reis (Mimosa), simply cos that way it includes Cristovao and VM quite nicely. Hopes it comes out ok on other folk's computers.
**[url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=mariz%20e%20barros%2C%20rio%20de%20janeiro&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl"]via Mariz e Barros[/url], and cross the footbridge over Praca da Bandeira. This is a nice walk with some reasonable restaurants. Saves changing Metros as well. But as you can see it's less straight forward, so helpful if you keep a map - or sense of direction - with you the first time[/color][/i][/QUOTE]
Christopherd,
Thanks for your prompt reply. Now that I see your maps, I should mention that when I got lost I was taking the south exit and thus walking along Avenida Osvaldo Aranha. I never did see the underpass, bridge, or whatever that becomes Rua Ceará-- this is what I was asking about.
Interestingly enough, the taxi went in the north entrance which one would get to from São Cristóvão's north exit. If there's a next time, maybe that's the way to go.
I don't ask so much for myself-- there will be other intrepid first timers who will walk in my shoes and may want to know this. As for myself, I may return if I can find that marijuana stall again. ;)
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]Christopherd,
Thanks for your prompt reply. Now that I see your maps, I should mention that when I got lost I was taking the south exit and thus walking along Avenida Osvaldo Aranha. I never did see the underpass, bridge, or whatever that becomes Rua Ceará-- this is what I was asking about.
Interestingly enough, the taxi went in the north entrance which one would get to from São Cristóvão's north exit. If there's a next time, maybe that's the way to go.
I don't ask so much for myself-- there will be other intrepid first timers who will walk in my shoes and may want to know this. As for myself, I may return if I can find that marijuana stall again. ;)[/QUOTE]
That's interesting - not sure I can figure out where you went to . . . maybe someone else can though . . . you say, [quote]I reversed course, heading east from the south exit. If one continues on the north side of that road, eventually you have a military base on your left and a favela on your right[/quote] I'm twisting my brains trying to think where you'd be. I can't remember a military base offhand anywhere between Cristovao and the other end of Vargas (where there's lots of military stuff but that's miles away). Def can't think of any favelas although I'm not keen on the area around Praca Onze late at night personally. It's not the nicest of walks. At least not until you get up to the markets on Vargas some way before Uruguiana.
If we leave by the south exit and head east we get to Rua Ceará. So ok let's do that bit . . .
The tacky yucky smelly two inch pavement that has room for one person and a set of lorry tires eventually stops. The freeway lanes have spread out to take in a garage on your right, while on your left are some street sellers, a bus stop, and usually some motorbike taxis (unofficial guys on bikes that will undercut a taxi fare). There's shops over to the right (about 6 traffic lanes over to the right).
You can see the railway bridges overhead to your left, Maybe get a whiff of the stagnant water in a canal beneath. There are several big iron bridges to your left too (the ones we walk under to VM). But before you turn off the main road you can see a blue footbridge crossing all those lanes of traffic. Over the other side there's a chemist and a mini-market and a few places you can eat if you want. Also a taxi stand and buses to Copa.
If you go any further along Osvaldo you hit the big spaghetti junction. A few street walkers too (not doables). Some beggars at the bridge and a fire station if I'm right?
I've just measured it on googlemaps and that says it's a 12 minute walk up to the bikers bar on Caera from the Metro.
If you get a taxi from Cristovao, north is much cheaper cos of the one way system.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]That's interesting - not sure I can figure out where you went to . . . maybe someone else can though . . . you say, I'm twisting my brains trying to think where you'd be. I can't remember a military base offhand anywhere between Cristovao and the other end of Vargas (where there's lots of military stuff but that's miles away).[/QUOTE]
There is one military base at Praca Pedro II, but that´s on the north side of the metro.
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I dozed off on the bus to VM once. Woke up bloody miles beyond Maracana and staggered off still rubbing sleep out of my eyes and disorientated and going, am I supposed to be worried, anyone want to mug me or, even worse, is it gonna rain? VM seemed so mainstream suburbia by the time I got myself behind a reassuring bottle of beer, friendly bunda shakin to the musak and so on. I firmly believe getting lost - or rather the getting un-lost that follows - to be a very healthy experience.
At least you explored lol! More people should.
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Who doesn't know her?
She is a cool chick. She has been in Copa for years.
Back in the day she did a porno. She is in Help every night.
My wingman gets to "know" her every time we are in Rio.
[QUOTE=Kcrl01]She's a real nice girl. Nice rack. I kinda' got the impression she prefers tall American black guys...not that there's anything wrong with it!
Do you need her email address or fone numbers?[/QUOTE]
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Back To Brazil
Hi guys,
I did it! After spending the last seven months reminiscing about my first perfect trip to Rio (owing in no small way to the brilliant Reports of Distinction) I thought,' sod the family, I need more than brussels sprouts and turkey to keep me going this December'.
So I've just booked my flight for Christmas and New Year. Three weeks in Copa! Just need to find a place to stay now. If anyone has a spare room going (buddy cancelling etc) or wants to share the cost of an apartment, let me know. (I couldn't find an appropriate forum to post this on, so apologies if it's the wrong one.) Feel free to PM me if you prefer.
Cheers,
Dazzler
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[QUOTE=Rastaman]Kcrl01,
I'm a tall, Black American guy, and I would appreciate you sending me the email address for Julianna. Muito obrigado.
BTW, your PM box is full.[/QUOTE]
I'm a short white guy and I would appreciate you sending me the email address for Julianna. Muito obrigado.
Just kidding
She's in Help every night, I told her I enjoyed her porn movie, she played to be embarrassed, she is a good girl, never been with her, I'm afraid of that fat stomach but she is probably ok.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]
If we leave by the south exit and head east we get to Rua Ceará. So ok let's do that bit . . .
The tacky yucky smelly two inch pavement that has room for one person and a set of lorry tires eventually stops. The freeway lanes have spread out to take in a garage on your right, while on your left are some street sellers, a bus stop, and usually some motorbike taxis (unofficial guys on bikes that will undercut a taxi fare). There's shops over to the right (about 6 traffic lanes over to the right).
You can see the railway bridges overhead to your left, Maybe get a whiff of the stagnant water in a canal beneath. There are several big iron bridges to your left too (the ones we walk under to VM). But before you turn off the main road you can see a blue footbridge crossing all those lanes of traffic. Over the other side there's a chemist and a mini-market and a few places you can eat if you want. Also a taxi stand and buses to Copa.
If you go any further along Osvaldo you hit the big spaghetti junction. A few street walkers too (not doables). Some beggars at the bridge and a fire station if I'm right?
I've just measured it on googlemaps and that says it's a 12 minute walk up to the bikers bar on Caera from the Metro.
If you get a taxi from Cristovao, north is much cheaper cos of the one way system.[/QUOTE]
Thanks again Christopherd for your detailed and helpful walkthrough-- this answers my (and hopefully others') questions. So if I hit that spaghetti junction, I've gone too far. I vaguely remember going past it. I agree Rio mongers ought to explore VM at least once to earn their stripes.
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]Thanks again[/QUOTE]
No probs. Thanks for sparking off the need for info - like anything, too easy to forget it wasn't always second nature. And also when you posted such a full account of your trip - and a bit of getting lost makes it more human and easier for first timers to identify with I reckon.
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[QUOTE=Kcrl01]She's a real nice girl. Nice rack. I kinda' got the impression she prefers tall American black guys. Not that there's anything wrong with it!
Do you need her email address or fone numbers?[/QUOTE]How good was her session?
What does do or not do?
I would like her info as well.
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Rejection
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder].
[b]BA 85 3rd floor: [/b]
. But there was another hottie there. She was a slim frosted blonde in a black & red bikini. The bottom barely covered her snatch. After watching her and being mesmerized by her beauty I tried to wave, wink, get her to notice me, but no dice. So I went up to talk to her and she turned around and walked away from me. Finally, I rubbed her ass and all I got is an ice-cold look directed my way.[/QUOTE]Well that sucks. It's a brothal, right? I mean, she's there to sell sex?
If so, I sure hope I won't be traveling thousands of miles to suffer much of that!
How often would you (or any Rio vet) guess this happens, i.e. an aging gringo gets rejected by a top tier provider in any given terma?
It's bad enough to admit I have to pay for it. But if my money won't help?
Shoot, the fat lady is signing!
Damn, and I don't even like frosted hair!
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I'm a short white guy and I would appreciate you sending me the email address for Julianna. Muito obrigado.
Just kidding
She's in Help every night, I told her I enjoyed her porn movie, she played to be embarrassed, she is a good girl, never been with her, I'm afraid of that fat stomach but she is probably ok.[/QUOTE]She has packed the pounds on over the years. She is quite short herself.
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[QUOTE=Dazzler72]Hi guys,
I did it! After spending the last seven months reminiscing about my first perfect trip to Rio (owing in no small way to the brilliant Reports of Distinction) I thought,' sod the family, I need more than brussels sprouts and turkey to keep me going this December'.
So I've just booked my flight for Christmas and New Year. Three weeks in Copa! Just need to find a place to stay now. If anyone has a spare room going (buddy cancelling etc) or wants to share the cost of an apartment, let me know. (I couldn't find an appropriate forum to post this on, so apologies if it's the wrong one.) Feel free to PM me if you prefer.
Cheers,
Dazzler[/QUOTE]Try a few rental apartments listed in the apartment and hotels thread. Do you really want to share an apartment with someone that you don't know over x mas for 3 weeks? I'm sure you could find a cheap studio where you have your own space and can entertain the garotas on your own.
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]Well that sucks. It's a brothal, right? I mean, she's there to sell sex?
If so, I sure hope I won't be traveling thousands of miles to suffer much of that!
How often would you (or any Rio vet) guess this happens, i.e. an aging gringo gets rejected by a top tier provider in any given terma?
It's bad enough to admit I have to pay for it. But if my money won't help?
Shoot, the fat lady is signing!
Damn, and I don't even like frosted hair![/QUOTE]
Pelongera,
Getting flat out rejected is pretty rare in my experience. I can't recall it happening to me in Rio and very rarely if at all elsewhere. I would guess that this is particularly true in the termas where the girls stand to gain a very significant amount of money from you for a session, as opposed to BA85 where the girls get some fraction of R$15. The bigger issue for me has always been that the one I want is either busy or not around.
There's two reasons why I'm not significantly hurt by these rejections (and you shouldn't be either.)
1. Were she to suppress her dislike for you, you would have a bad session and be out a bit of money.
2. Whether she's interested in me or not, there's a roomful of other girls who want me as well. The big challenge is to determine who "the one" is and whether that interest is mutual.
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]Well that sucks. It's a brothal, right? I mean, she's there to sell sex?
If so, I sure hope I won't be traveling thousands of miles to suffer much of that!
How often would you (or any Rio vet) guess this happens, i.e. an aging gringo gets rejected by a top tier provider in any given terma?
It's bad enough to admit I have to pay for it. But if my money won't help?
Shoot, the fat lady is signing!
Damn, and I don't even like frosted hair![/QUOTE]
Errm, Pelongera, he was talking about BA85, not a top class terma. I personally think any girl has the right to refuse any customer she wants and without giving a reason - though I respect that you may disagree. But at 1R a minute she'll reject who the f she likes and not worry about his feelings. And no, no-one should take offence. Maybe you smell bad ( to her), maybe you have hairy nostrils. Or maybe, the most common reason, you ain't Brasilian and she really can't be bothered shaking her fat ass for someone who doesn't talk her lingo properly and isn't from the class of 'normal' working class people she likes to service.
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Thanks gents.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Errm, Pelongera, he was talking about BA85, not a top class terma. I personally think any girl has the right to refuse any customer she wants and without giving a reason. [b]though I respect that you may disagree.[/b] But at 1R a minute she'll reject who the f she likes and not worry about his feelings. And no, no-one should take offence. Maybe you smell bad (to her), maybe you have hairy nostrils. Or maybe, the most common reason, you ain't Brasilian and she really can't be bothered shaking her fat ass for someone who doesn't talk her lingo properly and isn't from the class of 'normal' working class people she likes to service.[/QUOTE]No, I wouldn't disagree. And that's not really my point. I wanted to get a sense of what to expect.
For example, when I go to the Del Rey Hotel (or whatever they call the bar where the providers hang-out) in San Jose Costa Rica, I don't expect to catch the top-most tiers. I'm not unattractive, but I'm not a 24 year old stud, either.
(It was amusing to read gfe finders' account of the young guys who got pounced-on when they walked into the terma. It reminded me of time I once dragged into the Del Rey a 23 year old Montana state Christian exchange student, an honest country boy, and a football stud heading home from one of those intensive Guatamala Spanish schools.
We sat down at one of tables away from the chicks because I could see he was obviously a little nervous, not really knowing what was going on, his eyes looking every which way.
I left to get a couple of drinks and when I returned not less than four bombshells had sat down next to him. When he and I left, I asked him what he thought and he said that the place would be a good place to practice his spanish. Priceless.)
So I just want to get a sense of what to expect from the top tiers, and it sounds like it would be rare to get rejected in the high-end termas. Would it be reasonably consistent with your experience to say that fewer than 10% of the top tiers will reject a middle-aged gringo (minus the nose hairs?)?
But perhaps twice as likely in um Real per minute place, such as BA85?
Beyond that, I can't make sense of these observations on garotas preferring locals over gringos. On the one hand, I hear the claims, such as the above, that a terma girl would prefer a Brazilian client.
But that doesn't make sense against all the other information we get, such as Brazilian men not being as wealthy, not tipping, not carrying a get-out-of-Brazil-free card. Not to mention all that we read about how prostitution itself carryies a stigma. So it would stand to reason to think that the fewer locals a garota exposes herself to the less stigmatized, no? And she isn't looking for love in these places, I trust?
So I'm not sure how much help speculating on their motives is. Not beyond money.
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Hi, sorry, didn't realise it was your first trip. Probably better to just jump in. I don't personally think any amount of explanation will prepare anyone for Brasil mongering, it's quite unique. If it helps: Top termas like 4x4 are a class act so to speak. They're expensive and gringos can be seen as more likely to spend. Cheapo joints might work the opposite. These aren't hard and fast rules, just that mongering is not problemmatic in itself in Rio and rather than pages of discussion on it you might find in retrospect that time spent on researching practicalities is more helpful. How to get around, the size of Rio, protecting or minimizing your belongings, some phrases if you don't have them already, prices to pay in places where haggling is involved, that sort of thing. Rio is big and the pace is hectic. When you get there you're in the thick of it, like joining the fast autobahn from a slow side road. There is, however, more than enough pussy to go round (cough, understatement). Don't worry about being refused. Try not to be very loud - mimic the locals and speak quietly if you can. The stairs in BA85 are narrow and busy and harder if you are frail or overweight. Anywhere else is fairly user-friendly. Sorry if you've worked all this out already! Good luck and have a fantastic time!
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]
1. Were she to suppress her dislike for you, you would have a bad session and be out a bit of money.
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I quite agree with this, I wish the ones even slithly doubtfull would reject me, invariably you have better session with a girl who is half interested than the one that just force herself due to need/greed. Hell, we spend lots of chit chat and time trying to weed this out of them.....! I won't be offended one bit.
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Funny stuff
[QUOTE=Pelongera]It's bad enough to admit I have to pay for it. But if my money won't help?
Shoot, the fat lady is signing!
Damn, and I don't even like frosted hair![/QUOTE]Classic quote man!
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[QUOTE=Pelongera]So I just want to get a sense of what to expect from the top tiers, and it sounds like it would be rare to get rejected in the high-end termas. Would it be reasonably consistent with your experience to say that fewer than 10% of the top tiers will reject a middle-aged gringo (minus the nose hairs?)?
But perhaps twice as likely in um Real per minute place, such as BA85?
Beyond that, I can't make sense of these observations on garotas preferring locals over gringos. On the one hand, I hear the claims, such as the above, that a terma girl would prefer a Brazilian client.
But that doesn't make sense against all the other information we get, such as Brazilian men not being as wealthy, not tipping, not carrying a get-out-of-Brazil-free card. Not to mention all that we read about how prostitution itself carryies a stigma. So it would stand to reason to think that the fewer locals a garota exposes herself to the less stigmatized, no? And she isn't looking for love in these places, I trust?
So I'm not sure how much help speculating on their motives is. Not beyond money.[/QUOTE]You'll do fine. You see all types and all ages of men in Luomo, 4X4 and Monte Carlo and they all can have the same experience. I'll give you the same simple advice my older brother gave me before my freshmen year at college: "relax, smile, be happy and confident, make people laugh and you'll get plenty of pussy." It worked back then and works today. Most of these ladies are looking for a fun time (as well as your $). Relax and follow all the great advice here on selection and screening techniques. Christopher is sure right -- "there is plenty of pussy (understatement.)"
We'll have to wipe that grin off your mug weeks later!
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Getting a Brazilian visa in the US
'plenty of pussy.' I love the sound of that phrase.
And if the women are as appealing as the four at the Brazilian Embassy in SF I visited yesterday, I'll be a happy camper.
For the record, there, getting a visa is four step process: (1) go online and submit your information, purposes, etc. Print a reciept. (2) go to Post Office and get a cashiers check (3) bring the receipt, the money, your passport, etc., to the Embassy (or Consolate, whatever) and (4) wait ten business days and return to pick-up your visa.
Some of that can be done via Express Mail, step four, if memory serves. And you can send an qualified "agent" to do step three.
And that might be worth it to you because step three involved waiting in line for three hours!
[QUOTE=Hughdad]You'll do fine. You see all types and all ages of men in Luomo, 4X4 and Monte Carlo and they all can have the same experience. I'll give you the same simple advice my older brother gave me before my freshmen year at college: "relax, smile, be happy and confident, make people laugh and you'll get plenty of pussy." It worked back then and works today. Most of these ladies are looking for a fun time (as well as your $). Relax and follow all the great advice here on selection and screening techniques. Christopher is sure right -- "there is plenty of pussy (understatement.)"
We'll have to wipe that grin off your mug weeks later![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Hi, sorry, didn't realise it was your first trip. Probably better to just jump in. I don't personally think any amount of explanation will prepare anyone for Brasil mongering, it's quite unique. If it helps: Top termas like 4x4 are a class act so to speak. They're expensive and gringos can be seen as more likely to spend. Cheapo joints might work the opposite. These aren't hard and fast rules, just that mongering is not problemmatic in itself in Rio and rather than pages of discussion on it you might find in retrospect that time spent on researching practicalities is more helpful. How to get around, the size of Rio, protecting or minimizing your belongings, some phrases if you don't have them already, prices to pay in places where haggling is involved, that sort of thing. Rio is big and the pace is hectic. When you get there you're in the thick of it, like joining the fast autobahn from a slow side road. There is, however, more than enough pussy to go round (cough, understatement). Don't worry about being refused. Try not to be very loud - mimic the locals and speak quietly if you can. The stairs in BA85 are narrow and busy and harder if you are frail or overweight. Anywhere else is fairly user-friendly. Sorry if you've worked all this out already! Good luck and have a fantastic time![/QUOTE]You're a bloody good bloke, Christopherd!
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girls she is with
[QUOTE=Kcrl01]She's a real nice girl. Nice rack. I kinda' got the impression she prefers tall American black guys...not that there's anything wrong with it!
Do you need her email address or fone numbers?[/QUOTE]Does any one knows if she is still often with her friend "Lana / Lanna". A cute light brown colored girl.? I want to visit Rio soon again and want to know if she is still working there a lot.
Thanks Tijuana.
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Visa From San Francisco Brazilian Consolate
[QUOTE=Pelongera]'plenty of pussy.' I love the sound of that phrase.
And if the women are as appealing as the four at the Brazilian Embassy in SF I visited yesterday, I'll be a happy camper.
For the record, there, getting a visa is four step process: (1) go online and submit your information, purposes, etc. Print a reciept. (2) go to Post Office and get a cashiers check (3) bring the receipt, the money, your passport, etc., to the Embassy (or Consolate, whatever) and (4) wait ten business days and return to pick-up your visa.
Some of that can be done via Express Mail, step four, if memory serves. And you can send an qualified "agent" to do step three.
And that might be worth it to you because step three involved waiting in line for three hours![/QUOTE]PeLongero,
I was able to get my Visa at the last minute from the San Francisco office back in 2002. I lost my passport and received my replacement the day before I was flying. I walked into the San Francisco office 2 hours before my flight and got my visa then headed to the airport. I used an agent in 2007 to get it from the Los Angeles office. The Los Angeles office is far more busy then the San Francisco office, so you should be good. Don't forget a copy of your itinerary and 3 passport photos. They should also issue you a five year visa without a problem.
As Chris pointed out you just have to go. Even with all the information provided here about Rio, it is just something you must experience first hand to understand. Your age is a non issue. Believe me after your first trip you will have a hard time not thinking about when to book your next one. Be safe and have fun on your first trip to the Land of The Bunda!
RR
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Visa from SF
Sorry, I wasn't clear. The three hour wait was what I experienced this month. (And I think I should've posted this note on the general info thread.)
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]PeLongero,
I was able to get my Visa at the last minute from the San Francisco office back in 2002. I lost my passport and received my replacement the day before I was flying. I walked into the San Francisco office 2 hours before my flight and got my visa then headed to the airport. I used an agent in 2007 to get it from the Los Angeles office. The Los Angeles office is far more busy then the San Francisco office, so you should be good. Don't forget a copy of your itinerary and 3 passport photos. They should also issue you a five year visa without a problem.
As Chris pointed out you just have to go. Even with all the information provided here about Rio, it is just something you must experience first hand to understand. Your age is a non issue. Believe me after your first trip you will have a hard time not thinking about when to book your next one. Be safe and have fun on your first trip to the Land of The Bunda!
RR[/QUOTE]
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juliana
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How good was her session?
What does do or not do?
I would like her info as well.[/QUOTE]She does everything. she was in a porno called Spanish Fly Pussy Search #10. in the porno she did 2 men at the same time without condums. She took both their loads very well. the question is what does she not do?
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Rio Branca Stings
You guys here about the Police raids this week in Rio Branca 156? Heard they hit a number of Apartments. Its on the Oglobo paper should anyone want to read it. A number of Sperto's names appeared on here.
I called one of the numbers in Rio Branca and it appears from many girls that the police decided to handcuff a few of the clients...some Americans.
Be careful going to Rio Branca Apts right now.
Geo
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]You guys here about the Police raids this week in Rio Branca 156? Heard they hit a number of Apartments. Its on the Oglobo paper should anyone want to read it. A number of Sperto's names appeared on here.
I called one of the numbers in Rio Branca and it appears from many girls that the police decided to handcuff a few of the clients...some Americans.
Be careful going to Rio Branca Apts right now.
Geo[/QUOTE]What happens to the American clients that got arrested?
Sounds scary.
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[QUOTE=Shoesky]She does everything. she was in a porno called Spanish Fly Pussy Search #10. in the porno she did 2 men at the same time without condums. She took both their loads very well. the question is what does she not do?[/QUOTE]I looked up that porno but i dont see her on the box [url]http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6397023&style=ice[/url]
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I dont know
[QUOTE=Wantafanta]What happens to the American clients that got arrested?
Sounds scary.[/QUOTE]BuT usually what happens (for foreigners) is they take you to the "legacia" (police Station), check your passport and identity out with American Embassy and kep you there for 48 hours. Not really much they can do to a foreigner. Appened to me 5 years ago. Was part of a sting and had to wait it out 3 days at the station. Had to pay a R500 fine.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]BuT usually what happens (for foreigners) is they take you to the "legacia" (police Station), check your passport and identity out with American Embassy and kep you there for 48 hours. Not really much they can do to a foreigner. Appened to me 5 years ago. Was part of a sting and had to wait it out 3 days at the station. Had to pay a R500 fine.[/QUOTE]
Heck of a way to spend a vacation, sounds like an episode of that show "Locked up Abroad." They have not done a show on Brazil, somehow I doubt they'd be doing it on a monger locked up :-D
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]I looked up that porno but i dont see her on the box [url]http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6397023&style=ice[/url][/QUOTE]
Oopw wrong one. I do see her; P
[url]http://www.cduniverse.com/images.asp?style=ice&PID=6081060&image=back[/url]
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]BuT usually what happens (for foreigners) is they take you to the "legacia" (police Station), check your passport and identity out with American Embassy and kep you there for 48 hours. Not really much they can do to a foreigner. Appened to me 5 years ago. Was part of a sting and had to wait it out 3 days at the station. Had to pay a R500 fine.[/QUOTE]
What was the 500R fine for? Since prostitution is legal, what did you do wrong?
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]I looked up that porno but i dont see her on the box [url]http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6397023&style=ice[/url][/QUOTE]
The link you posted takes you to Spanish Fly Pussy Search # 11.
Click the link below and you can see her in full action in the screen
shots from the movie.
[url]http://www.dumparump.com/view.php?id=a8W98FM[/url]
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]You guys here about the Police raids this week in Rio Branca 156? Heard they hit a number of Apartments. Its on the Oglobo paper should anyone want to read it. A number of Sperto's names appeared on here.
I called one of the numbers in Rio Branca and it appears from many girls that the police decided to handcuff a few of the clients...some Americans.
Be careful going to Rio Branca Apts right now.
Geo[/QUOTE]GeoFagus,
The guys here, didn't hear about this, until you posted about it. A search of Oglobo, Odia and gpguia websites failed to find reports of the raids mentioned. I, too wonder about the $R500 fine. Was that for not having your passport with you? 5yrs ago....were you on ken's boat?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]The link you posted takes you to Spanish Fly Pussy Search # 11.
Click the link below and you can see her in full action in the screen
shots from the movie.
[url]http://www.dumparump.com/view.php?id=a8W98FM[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks Koolkid, she looks in better shape than in real, I guess she has 6-8kg more now.
Yet not able to get from emule the movie, there is only Cd1, I hope she is not in the Cd2 ;)
However I guess, it seems strange to me that if she is so good performer even now and not only in the movie, why almost every night in Help she is alone and went away alone too ?
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Avoid Rio Antigo Terma
I was in Rio Antigo last week. Things were slow. There were only 3 girls. Two 3/10 and a 6/10.
After I picked up the 6/10 girl, she led me in the room and told me "I'll be back right away". I waited what seemed to me a long time, at least 10 minutes. When she finally arrived, she told me that the 40 minutes session had started from when we had first entered the room, so that we had only 30 minutes left. I asked her to call the manager, and tell him to reset the time to NOW. She called the manager who refused.
So I decided to cancel everything and I walked out. Of course, the manager put the fault on the girl who herself put the fault on the manager. After some hassle, I could get out.
Total damage : 60R$ entrance fee + 25R$ for 2 drinks.
Not worth going there.
Regards. B.B.
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]
Not worth going there.
[/QUOTE]
That last sentence sums it up perfectly. Rio Antigo is in desperate need of new management & owners. I´ve always felt that the place had potential but it´s always dead in there and the handful of ladies there are usually south of 5 on the 1 to 10 scale. 5 years ago they at least had a couple of gems but last time I stopped through about 3 years ago I had had enough. It´s just a waste of R$60.
Same thing goes for Termas Aeroporto unless you like fat chicks (granted that I haven´t been there in quite a while).
- DSK
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500R Fine
[QUOTE=Bravo]What was the 500R fine for? Since prostitution is legal, what did you do wrong?[/QUOTE]I asked the same thing and I speak Porto very well. This was definetly some way for them to get money out of me. I did no crime. But they told me because I was involved with an institution that was being investigated, I was subject to the fine or 30 days in jail. Trust me, when you are in a foreign country, there is no arguing or winning with the Police. They are crooked as it is. I was never thrown in a prison cell. Rather in a huge holding pen as a 'detainee' with other mongers and *****s. It was histerical. I rapped with a GDP for the whole day. Got her number and when let loose we went back to my pad for a whole day of fun. Talk about Irony here.
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Here is the link
[QUOTE=Java Man]GeoFagus,
The guys here, didn't hear about this, until you posted about it. A search of Oglobo, Odia and gpguia websites failed to find reports of the raids mentioned. I, too wonder about the $R500 fine. Was that for not having your passport with you? 5yrs ago....were you on ken's boat?[/QUOTE][url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/7/choque_de_ordem_fecha_empresas_que_serviam_de_fachada_no_centro_21192.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]
Same thing goes for Termas Aeroporto unless you like fat chicks (granted that I haven´t been there in quite a while).
- DSK[/QUOTE]
I was there about a year ago and didn't see too many fat chicks. What did stand out was that it was the only Tier One terma I've been to that had women >30 years old working there.
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Luomo on Youtube
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHAUu-6Ua4[/url]
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From link provided by Geofagus:
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/7/choque_de_ordem_fecha_empresas_que_serviam_de_fachada_no_centro_21192.html[/url]
"Choque de Ordem fecha empresas que serviam de fachada no Centro
Rio - A Secretaria Especial da Ordem Pública (Seop) começou, na tarde desta quarta-feira, a operação no Centro da Cidade contra empresas de fachada. Até às 16h, cinco salas no edifício Central, na Avenida Rio Branco, que funcionavam com alvarás de empresas de engenharia, marketing e até consultório de terapia holística, exerciam outra atividade: casas de massagem que cobravam de R$ 40 a R$100 por sessão.
Fiscais das subsecretarias de Fiscalização e Operações lavraram auto de infração contra essas empresas que poderão ser interditadas por apresentarem alvará em desacordo com a atividade exercida. O choque de ordem levou cinco clientes e 29 funcionárias – 27 massagistas e duas gerentes - para a delegacia do Centro (5ªDP). A Seop recebeu a denúncias da subprefeitura e de escritórios que funcionam no edifício Avenida Central de que haveria por trás dessas empresas exploração sexual de mulheres. A polícia, que atuou em conjunto com a operação, vai investigar a atividade dos envolvidos.
A primeira sala a ser lacrada foi a 3320. Ali funcionaria as empresas Kroy e CR2 de engenharia, conforme licenciamento da Prefeitura. No entanto, a fiscalização se deparou com uma casa de massagens com 12 mulheres, uma gerente, e três clientes.
No vigésimo primeiro andar, na sala 2114, a empresa de terapia holística e também de telecomunicações de nome Naja, cinco mulheres e um cliente foram flagrados em atividade em desacordo com a estabelecida pela municipalidade e foram encaminhadas à 5ªDP.
Na sala 1839, Big One Marketing limitada, a atividade também era diferente da determinada pelo alvará. Foram levadas para delegacia três mulheres e o dono da empresa, o asiático Paulo Lee Tsai, que chegou ao local e foi surpreendido pela fiscalização. No mesmo andar, na 1833, quatro mulheres, um gerente e um cliente também foram detidos.
Já na sala 1619, a empresa Personal Vip Massagem, foi denunciada por exceder as atividades estabelecidas por seu alvará. Três mulheres foram encaminhadas à delegacia policial. A operação continua. Mais cinco salas estão sendo fiscalizadas e poderão ser fechadas até o final da ação."
In brief: Fraud. They were originally licensed to operate as engineering, marketing, and as a holistic therapy, but were massage parlors. 5 clients, 29 employees, 27 masseurs and 2 managers were taken in.
They closed 3320, 2114, 1833, 1839, and 1619. This was based on a complaint that sexual exploitation of women, aka prostitution, was occurring there. The investigation continues and are looking into 5 more companies doing business there.
My take on this: Someone forgot to make a payment or the payment just increased. Give it a couple of days, it will be business as usual.
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That's awesome!
Luomo is still my favorite spot.
[QUOTE=Geofagus][url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/7/choque_de_ordem_fecha_empresas_que_serviam_de_fachada_no_centro_21192.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Gyms
Dudes,
Heres is a complete list of many gyms in the Rio area including centro, in order by popularity:
[url]http://officialsite.com/index2.asp?S=ACM-&R=48&C=34&L=3882[/url]
Happy hunting
Vaughnyb
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The English translation of O Globo article about recent arrest and audit of casa
Shock of Order closes companies that formed the facade at the Center
Rio - The Special Secretariat of Public Order (Seop) began on the afternoon of Wednesday, the operation in the City's business against the facade. Up to 16h, five rooms in central building, on Avenida Rio Branco, who worked with permits to companies engineering, marketing and even office of holistic therapy, exercising other activity: houses of massage which charged U.S. $ 40 to $ 100 per session .
Undersecretary of the Tax Audit and Operations violation of self done against them that may be prohibited by charter have to disagree with the activity carried out. The shock of a leading five customers and 29 employees - 27 masseurs and two managers - the Center for the precinct (5th SD). The Seop received complaints from the sub and offices that work in the building of Central Avenue that would be behind these companies sexual exploitation of women. The police, who worked together with the operation, will investigate the activity of those involved.
The first room to be sealed was 3320. Ali operate businesses Kroyer CR2 and engineering, as licensing of the City. However, the courts faced with a massage house with 12 women, one manager and three clients.
In the twenty-first floor, in room 2114, the company of holistic care and telecommunications to name Naja, five women and a client were caught in activity at odds with the established by the municipality and were sent to 5th DP.
In room 1839, One Big Marketing Limited, activity was also different from that determined by the charter. Were taken to police station three women and the owner of the company, the Asian Paulo Lee Tsai, who came to the site and was surprised by the audit. On the same floor, in 1833, four women, a manager and a customer were also arrested.
Once in the room 1619, the company Vip Personal Massage, was denounced by the activities exceed established by its charter. Three women were referred to the police station. The operation continues. Five more rooms are being monitored and may be closed by the end of action.
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Raid at Rio BBranco 156 apt 3320
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]A friend who's on ISG told me of the Raid at the offices on BA. I'll ask him to post what he knows. Apparently on of his buddies was arrested and released with some fine.[/QUOTE]
Let me respond to what happened during the raid which took place on July 1. One of my buddies was arrested with Carrol at Dunda's place at apartment 3320. The police raided 4 or 5 places all at one time. He was just finishing with Carroll when all the girls were screaming policia. They asked him was he security due to the fact he was 6 foot 5 and built like a football player. He stated he was here on holiday. They took all the girls and clients down the elevators through the lobby of the building to waiting vans. He said it was funny watching the media and people just looking. Once in the police vans he was put up front of the van where all the girls were and was given water. No one was handcuffed. They were taken to the police district in Lapa.
My friend gave me a text to tell me that they were raided which I was suppose to be there but decided to get a legit massage with a happy ending and then head to BA 85. He was held at the police station for around 6-7 hours. I kept in touch with him by text and told him I would bail him and Carroll out. He said during the time the girls were there they were showing pictures of their bodies on their cell phones. When talking with a Brazilian lawyer he said that the bust was just to satisfy the polititions/ and the Mayor.
I ended up having to go to the police station in Lapa get his apartment keys and get his passport and then back to the station to give to him. He showed it and around 930 pm they start releasing some of the girls and madams. Which as the player I am I was outside getting some numbers for my future visits. He was released with out having to pay a fine other than what the bail bondsman (Acenva) charged a visit to terma 502 and terma 4X4.
After leaving the station we went to the termas 502 for 3 rounds of drinks then on over to 4x4 to eat and a quick session.
The main thing that should be learned is that you should always have a copy of your passport or your passport with you because things could have gotten very costly. It is good also to have a friend or 2 that know where you are and can help out.
Be safe
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Acenva
Very similar report what happened to me a few years ago. I didnt have my passport with me or an Authenticated copy made at a Cartorio. So I had to stay 48 hours at the Legacy in a huge holding pen. I did have to cough up R500 though. My lack of Portuguese, no passport and a nervous state made me give in to it. Lesson learned.
Geo
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Casa
I called the following today and spoke to the girls there:
3320-Everything good back in business-Duda Massagem
1833-Everything good back in business-MAra Massagems(promo going on for R50 right now for 1 hr)
1619-No answer..will try again
Geo
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[QUOTE=Leygreen][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHAUu-6Ua4[/url][/QUOTE]
Where is this suppose to take you? It wasn't a video of Luomo.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Where is this suppose to take you? It wasn't a video of Luomo.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is, or better it was as it seems was removed.
In the second part of the video was played inside L'uomo.
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You can download here:
[URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JR4QZ205"]Inside L'uomo[/URL]
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Cho, did you watch the whole video?
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Where is this suppose to take you? It wasn't a video of Luomo.[/QUOTE]Luomo was featured in the middle of the video. It was only 9 minutes long and very interesting. I guess you have attention deficit disorder. This MultiShow is a popular program on TV there.
Thanks Leygreen for taking the time to let us know about the video.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Where is this suppose to take you? It wasn't a video of Luomo.[/QUOTE]
Luomo sent this video out yesterday to its customer email list; I got it, too.
Here is the entire message:
Sexcetera - L'uomo Club - you tube!!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHAUu-6Ua4[/url]
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E não deixe de conferir as nossas promoções:
- Jantar Grátis após as 19h e aos sábados, não deixe de conferir nossa maravilhosa feijoada.
- Mande um e-mail para [email]luomo@luomo.com.br[/email] e concorra a uma noite inesquecível na Luomo!
- Agora, todos os dias, você pode pagar "TUDO" no cartão de crédito. APROVEITE!!!
Viste o nosso site: [url]www.luomo.com.br[/url]
L'uomo Club...30 anos - No auge do prazer!
Rua Siqueira Campos 143 / 2º Piso / lj. 15 - Copacabana
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And don't forget to check our promotions:
- Free dinner after 7:00 PM tipical brazilian food. On saturdays, a delicious FEIJOADA!
- Send us an e-mail to [email]luomo@luomo.com.br[/email] to run for a unforgettable moment!
- Every day you can pay "EVERYTHING" with you credit card. ENJOY!!!
Visit our web site: [url]www.luomo.com.br[/url]
L'uomo Club...30th year - At the peak of pleasure!
Rua Siqueira Campos 143 / 2nd floor / lj. 15 - Copacabana
TJ
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Raid
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Very similar report what happened to me a few years ago. I didnt have my passport with me or an Authenticated copy made at a Cartorio. So I had to stay 48 hours at the Legacy in a huge holding pen. I did have to cough up R500 though. My lack of Portuguese, no passport and a nervous state made me give in to it. Lesson learned.
Geo[/QUOTE]
Geo,
My friend is fairly fluent in Portuguese. We were fortunate that we both were not together as planned. If you have been to Dunda and did a session with Carroll you would have given her the 500R she is that good. But I do not paga that much for no pussy. (Unless I am married to it, because it cost a lot more in the end.)
ace
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[QUOTE=Acenva]Geo,
My friend is fairly fluent in Portuguese. We were fortunate that we both were not together as planned. If you have been to Dunda and did a session with Carroll you would have given her the 500R she is that good. But I do not paga that much for no pussy. (Unless I am married to it, because it cost a lot more in the end.)
ace[/QUOTE]
Is there a website for her massage spot?
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Is there a website for her massage spot?[/QUOTE]
There is no website it is 3320 at Rio Branco 156. Look at Sperto's map it will show you. If you come off the Carioca Metro the building is to the right go in by the Bob's and take the midle elevator up to the 32 floor then get out and go to the 33 floor.
Good luck!!!
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Luomo sent this video out yesterday to its customer email list; I got it, too.
Here is the entire message:
Sexcetera - L'uomo Club - you tube!!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHAUu-6Ua4[/url]
--
E não deixe de conferir as nossas promoções:
- Jantar Grátis após as 19h e aos sábados, não deixe de conferir nossa maravilhosa feijoada.
- Mande um e-mail para [email]luomo@luomo.com.br[/email] e concorra a uma noite inesquecível na Luomo!
- Agora, todos os dias, você pode pagar "TUDO" no cartão de crédito. APROVEITE!!!
Viste o nosso site: [url]www.luomo.com.br[/url]
L'uomo Club...30 anos - No auge do prazer!
Rua Siqueira Campos 143 / 2º Piso / lj. 15 - Copacabana
==============================================================================================
And don't forget to check our promotions:
- Free dinner after 7:00 PM tipical brazilian food. On saturdays, a delicious FEIJOADA!
- Send us an e-mail to [email]luomo@luomo.com.br[/email] to run for a unforgettable moment!
- Every day you can pay "EVERYTHING" with you credit card. ENJOY!!!
Visit our web site: [url]www.luomo.com.br[/url]
L'uomo Club...30th year - At the peak of pleasure!
Rua Siqueira Campos 143 / 2nd floor / lj. 15 - Copacabana
TJ[/QUOTE]
This is what I got: This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.
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[QUOTE=Safado Lover]You can download here:
[URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JR4QZ205"]Inside L'uomo[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. Now I've got to load an application to open an FLV file. ; )
Hughdad, No attention deficit disorder, just a missing file.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the info. Now I've got to load an application to open an FLV file. ; )[/QUOTE]
I've got a FLV player but . . .
When you start to download, the download site triggers a warning if you are using the WOT rating plugin on Firefox.
It rates it as dangerous for:
fraud, phishing, scams, malicious content and viruses.
Up to you.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the info. Now I've got to load an application to open an FLV file. ; )
Hughdad, No attention deficit disorder, just a missing file.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Christopherd]I've got a FLV player but . . .
When you start to download, the download site triggers a warning if you are using the WOT rating plugin on Firefox.
It rates it as dangerous for:
fraud, phishing, scams, malicious content and viruses.
Up to you.[/QUOTE]You can download one of this players. VLC is the best for me.
[url]http://www.free-codecs.com/Media_Player_Classic_download.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.videolan.org/vlc/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the info. Now I've got to load an application to open an FLV file. ; )[/QUOTE]Try VLC media player:
[url]http://www.videolan.org/vlc/[/url]
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Yep VLC is the best one, it opens everything with no need of codec as windows media player does.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]This is what I got: This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.[/QUOTE]
That means there was NUDITY! As we know NO NUDITY is allowed on youtube.
Addition:It has been confirmed that there was nudity, so that was it.
youtube has a zero tolerance policy concerning nudity.
TJ
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I mean the L'uomo file everyone is so keen to get has warning ratings, phishes etc, not the flv player
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]That means there was NUDITY!
TJ[/QUOTE]Or more likely it means it was a copyrighted show (Multishow) and they requested it come down. But yes there was lots of nudity in the video. Actually very good 9 minute report.
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Florida Boite in Centro
Anyone got updated info on the place?
Geo
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Sisters/Twins?
Does anyone know of any Brasileira sisters or, better yet, twins that work either in a termas or massage place or escort service in Rio? Would like to check off that box this coming trip if I can find some that are really good; they don't have to "do" each other, but if they do, I wouldn't mind! Feel free to PM me if you prefer!
Thanks,
Rodeo
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Twins
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Does anyone know of any Brasileira sisters or, better yet, twins that work either in a termas or massage place or escort service in Rio? Would like to check off that box this coming trip if I can find some that are really good; they don't have to "do" each other, but if they do, I wouldn't mind! Feel free to PM me if you prefer!
Thanks,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
Not sure if they are still there but there were twins working in Monte Carlo last year. Posted a picture in the photo gallery.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]That means there was NUDITY! As we know NO NUDITY is allowed on youtube.
Addition:It has been confirmed that there was nudity, so that was it.
youtube has a zero tolerance policy concerning nudity.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Thanks Safado Lover, DbDoll, Lukasek. The VLC player worked great! If only they could improve the video quality when you go full screen!
Yes TJ, plenty of nudity! Although I must admit that I've seen this before on youtube, sometime ago. It was also on the Playboy channel. I can use this to show a few close friends the Terma experience!:)
So far, this is the only visual recording I have ever seen inside a Terma.
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My Favorite Terma
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
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I think she also goes
[QUOTE=Bravo]Is this the girl you are talking about? She goes by the name "Milky" as well. I would be surprised to find out she works in Solarium because she is in Help nightly.[/QUOTE]
by the name Mariella.
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[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]
Nice drawing.
Is it L'uomo?
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drawing
[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]Nice work but I think you missed the massage room.
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First Guess. Yes, it's the plan for L'uomo. If anyone remembers the rooms numbers and any further configuration information I would update the drawing.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Nice drawing.
Is it L'uomo?[/QUOTE]
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Interesting
[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]
However, Camilia might object to you calling her kitchen, storage. The Super Suite is right as you enter the private rooms area. There also is an office in that area on the left. In the middle you will find suites 1-3 with showers with suite 3 being on the left. Not that I have ever been there.
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[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]
There is also a small restroom just before you get into the dancing floor.
Good drawing,nevertheless.
Only the suites have a shower in them (max. 2)
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Trash Talking, very nice drawing man !
Btw I always been in room A or B, I did not imagine there are so many rooms-cabine.
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Nice work
[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]
This is a prime example of reliving the experience. Next trip you can study the furniture arrangements in the cabines. :D
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]This is a prime example of reliving the experience. Next trip you can study the furniture arrangements in the cabines. :D[/QUOTE]Or the birthmarks on the ladies.
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Suggestions for hotel Lapa / Centro
Any suggestions for a modest, safe place Lapa / Centro? Preferably close to metro? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]Any suggestions for a modest, safe place Lapa / Centro? Preferably close to metro? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
[i]Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)[/i]
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Rio Nights
I just got back from Rio recently. If you are not into going to termas, discos or taking the escort route, you may want to try this place. The Balcony Bar is a bar with a patio restaurant out front. While you are eating the girls lined up by the railing or inside the bar itself are all available for take-out. You might even want to invite one over to eat with you or just have a drink.
Once your deal is made, just exit the place turn left and head up the street one block to the Duroverde Hotel. It's on Rua Duvivier and Rua Ronaldo de Carvalho. The girls know where it is I'm sure.
Had a great time with a couple of chicas I grabbed from the bar. Using the Copacabana Palace Hotel as your starting point, face the beach and turn left. Go about a block and a half as if heading for Leme Beach. It is right next to a building that says La dolce Vita, I think. The Balcony Bar is great.
Happy hunting guys. Too bad we can't fuck them all.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
[i]Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)[/i][/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot.
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More floor plans
[QUOTE=Trash Talking]Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.[/QUOTE]Trash Talking,
That was a very accurate drawing of Luomo's. Now stun us all with impressive floor plans of the cavernous 4X4, or maybe something more realistic like the multi-floored Monte Carlo, Centaurus and Solarium.
Ice
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Is Ibis GF friendly?
[QUOTE=Christopherd]The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
[i]Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)[/i][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]Is Ibis GF friendly?[/QUOTE]
Generally, yes.
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]Is Ibis GF friendly?[/QUOTE]
In floripa it was with no problem at all, so I guess it will be the same in Rio too.
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[QUOTE=Poturu]Hi is the first time I go to Brasil. In Rio I have just found a semi-pro girl-friend spending 2-3 hours with me every day. I will stay with her one week, I like knowing how I have to pay her after one week. Everything is subjective .... but if I want to give her money or to buy clothings how much have I to spend (around)?
Please.[/QUOTE]
Semi-pro/piranha. If she stays with you, having sex, expecting presents, clothes etc then you might have to do some shopping. Rather than taking her to fancy expensive shops you could bring her to C&A or Santa Clara 33. Spending something like R$ 200 will give her a lot of clothes.
If she insists on receiving money I wouldn't describe her as a semi-pro/piranha, but a w**re. I never had sex with a pro without agreeing about the price beforehand. Paying a pro after have been staying with her for one week might be complicated. Could be costly.
Why not ask her what she expects?
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Semi-pro/piranha. If she stays with you, having sex, expecting presents, clothes etc then you might have to do some shopping. Rather than taking her to fancy expensive shops you could bring her to C&A or Santa Clara 33. Spending something like R$ 200 will give her a lot of clothes.
If she insists on receiving money I wouldn't describe her as a semi-pro/piranha, but a w**re. I never had sex with a pro without agreeing about the price beforehand. Paying a pro after have been staying with her for one week might be complicated. Could be costly.
Why not ask her what she expects?[/QUOTE]Really think sh'e gonna want C & A clothing?
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[QUOTE=Poturu]I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?[/QUOTE]While you are shopping - pick up a calculator for yourself.
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[QUOTE=Poturu]I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?[/QUOTE]As Sperto suggests ask her beforehand and come to an understanding.
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[QUOTE=Poturu]I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?[/QUOTE]
200x7 makes 1400. :)
I meant R$ 200 for the whole time. Just a suggestion.
I don't know your girl or what she want.
The pro's I stay with I pay what we agree on.
The piranhas I try to get as cheap away as possible, preferable a dinner.
The regular girls I don't mind giving a nice present.
As it's your first time in Rio I would suspect that you might have met a pro. She might be expecting something that might surprise you. Ask her.
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[QUOTE=Malo9517]I just got back from Rio recently. If you are not into going to termas, discos or taking the escort route, you may want to try this place. The Balcony Bar is a bar with a patio restaurant out front. While you are eating the girls lined up by the railing or inside the bar itself are all available for take-out. You might even want to invite one over to eat with you or just have a drink.
Once your deal is made, just exit the place turn left and head up the street one block to the Duroverde Hotel. It's on Rua Duvivier and Rua Ronaldo de Carvalho. The girls know where it is I'm sure.
Had a great time with a couple of chicas I grabbed from the bar. Using the Copacabana Palace Hotel as your starting point, face the beach and turn left. Go about a block and a half as if heading for Leme Beach. It is right next to a building that says La dolce Vita, I think. The Balcony Bar is great.
Happy hunting guys. Too bad we can't fuck them all.[/QUOTE]What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?
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balconey
[QUOTE=PhilKrenshaw]What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?[/QUOTE]Balconey bar is owned by an american man called David Edger. He also runs an apartment rental company. He has done a good job improving balconey over the last 18 months or so. You can find women there anytime of the day or night, quality varies though.
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[QUOTE=PhilKrenshaw]What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?[/QUOTE]
Practically 24hrs, though not at the same intensity. It gets quiet when they try to tidy up (see my sunrise at balcony post some time back) or early morning. Picks up towards early evening. But it's a fallback position for girls as well as punters. Plan b after Help didn't work, for instance. Some don't even have a plan a. Many troll the bars, especially Balcony to Prado Junior till the very early hours.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Practically 24hrs, though not at the same intensity. It gets quiet when they try to tidy up (see my sunrise at balcony post some time back) or early morning. Picks up towards early evening. But it's a fallback position for girls as well as punters. Plan b after Help didn't work, for instance. Some don't even have a plan a. Many troll the bars, especially Balcony to Prado Junior till the very early hours.[/QUOTE]
When I come back I want to try all the bars around the Prado Junior area. I went to one with a garota and her friend and paid R50+ for 3 drinks. So i wasn't that impressed. Was it you Christopherd who reported on the bars in this area? It would be good to know which are good and bad.
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Japanese GDP
There were a few of you who were looking for an Asian beauty. Found her in Classificados Odia.
[url]http://www.muraldoprazer.com/agatha/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]When I come back I want to try all the bars around the Prado Junior area. I went to one with a garota and her friend and paid R50+ for 3 drinks.[/QUOTE]
I had to read that twice. I thought R50 for two girls including drinks wasn't bad at all. Then I figured you meant just the drinks rofl. Either you were right ripped off or drinking in the posh French bar or both. A beer in Bar Prado is only 2 or 3 reals. Mind you, there's plenty of less than posh people there willing to relieve you of money if you feel the need. I take it you know your way around and how to blend if you're going to lower yourself to my standards ;)
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I had to read that twice. I thought R50 for two girls including drinks wasn't bad at all. Then I figured you meant just the drinks rofl. Either you were right ripped off or drinking in the posh French bar or both. A beer in Bar Prado is only 2 or 3 reals. Mind you, there's plenty of less than posh people there willing to relieve you of money if you feel the need. I take it you know your way around and how to blend if you're going to lower yourself to my standards ;)
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.[/QUOTE]
We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Sounds right. I generally avoid the (latter) place although felt I had to have a few drinks there when I was trying to write about the Prado bars generally. There are one or two fans of it on here I believe.
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Latest on Help
Reported in today's Oglobo, Seven architectural firms are competing for the $R44 Million construction project to build the Museum of Sound to replace Disco Help.
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/08/06/sete-escritorios-de-arquitetura-do-pais-do-mundo-disputam-direito-de-projetar-novo-mis-757147623.asp[/url]
Gallery of the Seven Designs:
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/fotogaleria/2009/9576/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=864980#post864980[/url]
It would also be handy if anyone could report on the strip bars in the area
aswell.
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GDPs' cut of Terma fees
Quick question for those in the know:
How much of the amount charged for an hour with a GDP in a Terma...say 4x4 for example (please also report on others if known, including private massagems) at 200R for a standard cabine...does a GDP get?
I figure this is a good question as it gives us an idea of where to begin negotiations for take out; theory being if they normally get 100R for an hour on site, then 200-250R for 3 hrs or all night would be a steal for us!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]I know there is a ibis hotel in centro but whats the name of the other one near there.
I think it is formule .[/QUOTE]
Spot on. [url="http://www.accorhotels.com.br/guiahoteis/formule1/hotel_loc.asp?cd_hotel=200"]Formule 1[/url]. It's marginally cheaper but less nice. More like a posh youth hostel. Can't recall the name of the sawdust and brown windows place opposite. I think the name might just be Rio Hotel.
The Formule is an ok overflow option if the Ibis is full (they have some formal links and recommend each other). But th eIbis is better at a posh price. The Rio is good at a sh*tty price.
Ibis Rio de Janeiro Centro
R. Silva Jardim
Rio de Janeiro - RJ, 20050-060, Brazil
(21) 3511-8200 (I think)
Formule 1 Rio de Janeiro Centro
Rua Silva Jardim, 32 - Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - Brasil
Telefone: (21) 3511-8500
Rio Hotel (good porto needed)
Rua Silva Jardim, 3
Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP: 20050-060
Telefone: +55 (21) 2282-1213
There's another Ibis over the other side of Centro that a colleague stayed in - quite ok part of town but less handy for cheap hookers.
Hotel Ibis Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont-Rede
Rua Mal Câmara, 280 - Centro
Rio de Janeiro - RJ, 20020080, Brazil
(21) 3506-4500
Exit numbers and 55 for all of these if you're phoning from outside Bras.
Memo to newbies: This is not the Rio you will see recommended from the hype and there are some streets nearby - such as the one that runs past the cathedral - where you should take care at night. Centro's good once you've got Copa or Ipanema outta the system so to speak. If it's your first trip, the Copa/Ipa options are still the best initiation probably. You can always grab a cab/bus/metro to see Centro.
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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Quick question for those in the know:
How much of the amount charged for an hour with a GDP in a Terma...say 4x4 for example (please also report on others if known, including private massagems) at 200R for a standard cabine...does a GDP get?
I figure this is a good question as it gives us an idea of where to begin negotiations for take out; theory being if they normally get 100R for an hour on site, then 200-250R for 3 hrs or all night would be a steal for us!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
I have asked a few GDPs this very question. They told me that, in the termas where the charges are broken down separately for the room and for the girl, all of the girl fee goes to the girl and all of the room fee goes to the house. The entrance fee goes to the house as well. Whether this is true or not I don't know, but this is what I was told. In those termas where everything (except the entrance fee) is lumped into one charge, I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.[/QUOTE]I think that the bar you are on about is called alasanders, opposite erotica and next to nikos. The owner is a gringo. European. You get a few gdp's go in there on the way to balconey.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I have asked a few GDPs this very question. They told me that, in the termas where the charges are broken down separately for the room and for the girl, all of the girl fee goes to the girl and all of the room fee goes to the house. The entrance fee goes to the house as well. Whether this is true or not I don't know, but this is what I was told. In those termas where everything (except the entrance fee) is lumped into one charge, I don't know.[/QUOTE]
But I suppose she will want to add taxis time n hassle. Unless you catch her when she's finished (and possibly shagged out for the day lol) :rolleyes:
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rio for 2 days
hey fellow mongers
gv here. gonna be in rio for 2 days and wanted to know if any of you could make a suggestion of a nice gf hotel to stay at in either copa or ipanema or centro that is close to all of the thermas and night action. btw is helpee closed now????
thanks in advance
gv
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Place to stay
[quote=gianni versace]hey fellow mongers
gv here. gonna be in rio for 2 days and wanted to know if any of you could make a suggestion of a nice gf hotel to stay at in either copa or ipanema or centro that is close to all of the thermas and night action. btw is helpee closed now????
thanks in advance
gv[/quote]
gv
i will be in rio for a couple of days in august and will be staying at the ibis in centro. i hear it is good, garota friendly and near the centro action.
i have not been there before, actually it is my first visit to rio, however trusted sources state it is a good place. hope this helps
cheers
a158
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Centro is not near any 'night action' to speak of the same way there is night action in Copa. Like two different cities. Plenty of non-GDP partying round the corner from the Ibis in Centro. And the main centro termas are walking distance. But you get the Metro from Centro to Help or the beach.
The Ibis is great. But I'd still recommend most newbies to stay in Copa or Ipa. And if you take a girl from Copa back to Centro you somehow lose the atmosphere IMO.
Copa/Ipa are beach, sun, babes a-plenty and gringos don't look out of place hitting on all the outdoor flesh that roams the GDP bars.
Centro is like any other main city centre. Pussy action is generally behind closed doors.
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Flavia Massagems
I just checked out the FM website and noticed that the entire staff is different than it was 1.5 months ago. Is this typical for Centro termas?
I assume Flavia wasn't one of those busted in the police raids. Or maybe they were and this is why the girls were changed?
This really irritates me. Brenda at FM was a outstanding 3 hole cum ho, even wanted to take me bareback in her culo. I had intentions of recruiting her for TLN in a few months when I get back to Rio! So pissed.
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Early Opening Termas?
Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]
Any price on the rio hotel?[/QUOTE]
It was buttons when I last enquired. Can't remember - 20R or thereabouts. It's old and dingy, so not for you if you like creature comforts. The rooms are viable for a puta but quite seedy. I just had it as a fall-back option one time when Ibis and Formule were bursting and I wasn't sure how far my cash would go (Ibis to me is expensive, but I've stayed there for maybe a month earlier this year).
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[QUOTE=Campo]Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.[/QUOTE]4x4 opens at 2pm I think.
Rodeo
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I just checked out the FM website and noticed that the entire staff is different than it was 1.5 months ago. Is this typical for Centro termas?
I assume Flavia wasn't one of those busted in the police raids. Or maybe they were and this is why the girls were changed?
This really irritates me. Brenda at FM was a outstanding 3 hole cum ho, even wanted to take me bareback in her culo. I had intentions of recruiting her for TLN in a few months when I get back to Rio! So pissed.[/QUOTE]Would you mind posting the website please.
Thanks!
Rodeo
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What Should I Expect
Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?
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Flavia
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Would you mind posting the website please.
Thanks!
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.flaviamassagens.com.br/[/url]
The site appears to be down..............
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a book for newbies
Don't know if this has been mentioned recently. Bwana Dick has done a 2009 update of his Rio guide which you can download from:
[i]{{{oooops! - Have tried unsuccessfully to post several coded versions of the download site but all rejected by the ISG electronic checker - so just google for
"[b]Bwana dik rio guide 2009[/b]".
It'll come up easily.}}}[/i]
Quite good for a newbie "all you need to know" to get started guide. And very nicley written and formatted. 72 pages. Still needs a map or two and a basic phrase guide though. (And it admits the familiar laughable bias against VM - most of that section can be ignored.)
The temperature conversion chart at the end before the listings of termas and so on gave me a laugh -
35C = 95F
37C = 97.8F
39C = 102.2F
41C = Ridiculously Fucking Hot
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[QUOTE=Campo]Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Termas Aeroporto opens at noon. I've not tried to session there and then catch a flight, so I don't know how tight that will make your schedule. NS Copacabana 583 #203 and #204 may be open then as well.
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Bootyluv - What up. 3 mongers (DR vets) will be in Rio Aug 20th to 27th). Hit me up via PM if you want to meet up. We're staying in Copa, a few blocks from HELP. Peace.
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?[/QUOTE]
I have a friend who is also fluent in Spanish and he doesn't seem to have any problems. Its always better to know at least a little of the local language, but you should be ok. Remember not all Brazilians will understand Spanish.
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[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?[/QUOTE]
SOme locals will understand what you are saying in Spanish, but Spanish will not help you understand them at all.
Your friend who has been studying Porto will get lots of chances to use it.
TJ
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Museu da Imagem e do Som
Yesterday it was decided how the museum will look like.
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/escritorio_americano_e_o_escolhido_para_dar_forma_ao_novo_museu_da_imagem_e_do_som_28673.html[/url]
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Help closing email
Hi,
I got this email today from an apartment rental place I have used before in Rio:
[quote]For those of you who are interested
Disco HELP at Copacabana will close for sure now, and 90% sure that they will begin to tear down HELP within two months from now.
Early next year they will start to build a museum there.
There have been rumors about this for years as we all know.
But now tonight it was on the news.
This is what the museum will look like.
Divulgação / Divulgação
So for all of you who want to be at HELP the last nights, it's time to book your ticket now!
Best regards,
Anders Lindahl[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Andy1974]Hi,
I got this email today from an apartment rental place I have used before in Rio:[/QUOTE]
Sounds like he is trying to capitalize on the recent oglobo articles about the replacement artist renditions for Help to drum up some needed business, good for him.
I doubt he knows anything more than anybody else, for the past 3 years every time I have been in Help I thought it might be my last, but we still get extensions. Let’s hope this goes on forever.
But for sure these firms have spent a lot of money to compete for their design, it's getting serious.
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What to expect
[quote=blk big bootyluv]greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, mexico, dr, phuket, bangkok, aruba, us yada yada.
will be leaving for brazil in 1 week and i haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. i am fluent in spanish, did i just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud i expect?
got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
what do you think bro's?[/quote]spanish and portuguese are completely different. things look the same but are pronounced very very differently. get a copy of pimsleur brazilian portuguese. since you are fluent in spanish once you get a grasp of the pronounciation (rio = he-yo, help = hel-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], etc...) you will do alright but they are two different languages. way easier for you then a corn fed unilingual gringo like me. what to expect? you will have a blast. the girls, the sun, the food, the beach, the fun loving laid back people. compared to the places you mentioned brasil is the bomb.
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Help - Museu da Imagem e do Som
The demolition of Help is supposed to start in two months. Most say in October and some even say next month.
[url]http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/cultura/2009/08/11/projeto+escolhido+para+a+nova+sede+do+museu+da+imagem+e+do+som+e+apresentado+no+rio+7815907.html[/url]
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/copacabana_tambem_vai_ser_obra_de_arte_em_museu_na_orla_28750.html[/url]
Delays are quite common in Brazil, maybe also this time.
I appreciate the closing of Help and look forward with interest to see where the ladies will take their business. :)
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Help - Museu da Imagem e do Som
[QUOTE=Sperto]The demolition of Help is supposed to start in two months. Most say in October and some even say next month.
[url]http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/cultura/2009/08/11/projeto+escolhido+para+a+nova+sede+do+museu+da+imagem+e+do+som+e+apresentado+no+rio+7815907.html[/url]
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/copacabana_tambem_vai_ser_obra_de_arte_em_museu_na_orla_28750.html[/url]
Delays are quite common in Brazil, maybe also this time.
I appreciate the closing of Help and look forward with interest to see where the ladies will take their business. :)[/QUOTE]Oglobo also reported on this yesterday. Their report states Help Ownership is contesting the appraisal of $R13 million. A decision is expected in 2 months. If everything goes against Help, construction of the Museum is expected to start Feb 2010 and last 2.5yrs!!!
Other reports state the Museum will have a piano bar and a Dance Floor. It be hilarious if the GDP ply their trade there. What's Cabral and the state going to do then??
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/08/11/obras-da-nova-sede-do-mis-devem-comecar-em-fevereiro-de-2010-757362041.asp[/url]
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After Help where ?
Now that it is decided, no much matter if in 1 or 4 months, it has really sense to discuss it, so I ask to these ones who live in Rio and know the city better, where we should expect GDP will move when Help will be only a memory ?
Help for me was not a very good place but the only one where to go after midnight to meet with other mongers, take a drink, relax and to watch to the pros at work, so the answer "after Help where" is not that easy for girls, considering it should be a disco in copa or at least in ipanema as in these two places you have the 99% of turists.
I am afraid the mongering late at night in Rio will change totally, that it will never be as before and IMHO I never liked the bars-boite in Prado Junior and never took a SW and not plan to do it.
So during the day the beaches, late afternoon termas and after dinner where we all meet ? :)
So to make long short, do you think all the girls will move to one club, and where ? , or they will go to many different places, and it will make more expensive to us to travel to one to other to choose the one we like ?
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After Help where?
The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).
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Cafe 400 Barra
Spent a few days in rio on business last week. Stayed in the sheraton in barra , great hotel, highly recommended. Only time for mongering was my last night, turned left outside the hotel and 20 minutes walk later was at the cAFE 400. Fantastic women, too many to choose from. After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her. exceptional!!!!
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[QUOTE=Sperto]The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).[/QUOTE]
I am sure there are entrepreneurs ready to exploit the opening. Wish I had the money to invest. There is one place abandoned on the beach, it`s quite large inside and tere is a second floor. It used to be called the beer place or something in the old days it was called Bolero
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Info on these termas?
Fellow deviants,
In doing my research for an upcoming trip, I ran across the following termas who are all reported to provide entrance, 1hr and room. Total for under $200R. I haven't seen any reporting on these places here recently, so, I was wondering if maybe they might be closed down or, what the current prices are, if the info was dated. I found the info on a forum for guys In Search of. Girls.
Please check the list and provide input if you can. Thanks:
Termas Black House
Termas Phoenix (Copa)
Termas Caribbean Queen
Termas Coquettish
Buena Vista Club
Termas Excentric
Termas Black and White
So’ File’ e Cia
Rodeo
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Ba 85
i arrived at ba 85 about 12:30. i usually deal with thick girls but i had made my mind up that i would find a spinner today. as soon as i got up to the first floor i saw patricia in the corner. she has a start tattoo with the letters kj on her left shoulder and braces in her mouth. from the start i knew she was the one i would be taking. however i sat down and got acclimatized to the scene. i wanted to make sure i was not leaving stones unturned. one other girl came over talking to me but i was not trying to show interest in her. patricia went out to smoke and as soon as she came back in she sat next to me. i told her let’s go! i paid the 20 reais and we went to the back for the session.
she tried to put on the condom before the sucking started but i gave her the finger wag. i let her do about a minute of dry head then i handed her the condom. i had about 18 minutes left to run a gamut of positions. after 2 minutes of quatro i took a look at her gaping pussy. i was in hog heaven. then i hit it from the side and asked her if she liked anal. she said no. before finishing up i asked her if she could sleep out of the house. she said it depended which day because she has a kid. i took her information along with her real name and told her that i would give her a call next time i am in rio. i got dressed and left to get lunch at my favorite centro por kilo spot.
i returned to ba 85 and went right to the second floor. there were a few winners but i remembered how much i hated the accommodations so i moseyed up to the third floor. i asked the lone girl there where everybody was. she said they were in the back. there was nothing for me there so i hit the staircase once again. when i got to the fourth floor the first person i saw was sheyla. she would do nicely for desert. i took her in the back for 15 minutes.
i was in midstroke when my phone started ringing. it was my home girl saying that she was on her way downtown to take some test that she had told me about the day before. i told her cool. i was already downtown and could meet her. she started to question where i was so i acted like the phone was breaking up and i hung up on her. plus my time with sheyla was ticking away. i should have never answered the phone in the first place because now i had lost my hard-on. we started laughing together. i had to hurry up and get it back up. i started pouncing on sheyla but dammit, the mattresses in rio fuck shops don’t have springs so there was no bounce back. although she was beautiful i had to use a lot of imagination to bust one off. i got dressed and went to meet my friend at carioca station. uruguiana 24 was calling my name as i passed but i resisted a peek inside.
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Since you mentioned termas....
[QUOTE=Sperto]The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).[/QUOTE]
I am inclined to believe that if another venue similar to Help does not open up where these gp's can go work, then as you mentioned on your post, many of these GP's will work at termas.
My main concern would be the owners of these termas will realize that the absence of Help would create more demand from the tourist mongers, thus encouraging the termas to jack up the prices. This sucks! Cause as it is, termas prices have just gone out of hand over the last couple of years. Even to a certain extent, the low end termas as well. Let's see what develops.
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Museum
As I was sipping caipirinhas at a kiosk across from Help last night, I was trying to picture the new museum in Help's place. If it does come to pass, it will look ridiculously out of place judging from the artist's rendition. A weird, new Niemeyer-esqe building nestled in the middle of apartment buildings and hotels from decades past.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I am inclined to believe that if another venue similar to Help does not open up where these gp's can go work, then as you mentioned on your post, many of these GP's will work at termas.
My main concern would be the owners of these termas will realize that the absence of Help would create more demand from the tourist mongers, thus encouraging the termas to jack up the prices. This sucks! Cause as it is, termas prices have just gone out of hand over the last couple of years. Even to a certain extent, the low end termas as well. Let's see what develops.[/QUOTE]
Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)[/QUOTE]
I agree !
If we all, in one way or another will miss Help, it is nothing in comparison to how much Help girls will miss it, a place where with average or below service they were used to get much more money, with less effort than termas girls.
Surely some of them will go to termas, but they will soon realize that if they will not totally change their mind, they will not work at all. It is enough to think to bbbj, service that is common with all the termas girls I was without ask in advance and sometimes impossible to get with Help girls even with hard negotiating.
In short time, after the end of Help, I think the pros scene is gonna to change, I am curious to see if in better or worst way for all us.
Maybe they will open some new termas too ?!
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Was there tonight
[QUOTE=Sperto]The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).[/QUOTE]
Was pretty empty. As I talked to a few of them outside, they said they are heading down to Balcony Bar these days. Going tomorrow night to check out the action.
Geo
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Help
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)[/QUOTE]
I agree that the help girls for the most part do not have the discipline for the termas. But that was not the main point of my report. The emphasis was more on its potential effect on the prices at termas.
Someone mentioned only a fool would do that. But for those who are familiar with the buss. mentality in Brasil....anything is possible.
I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
But now that it looks as though it is a strong possiblility of Help closing, it occurred to me that it might effect other gp scenes and its pricing, such as termas.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas. So there is definitely a correlation between the Help Scene shutting down and having a trickle effect on more mongers heading to termas, or heading more often. In turn, termas management could benefit on increase demand, and as crazy as it seems......increase in prices at the termas.
I am not prediciting this will happen, just stating it could be a possibility. Hopefully, I am totally wrong.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I agree that the help girls for the most part do not have the discipline for the termas. But that was not the main point of my report. The emphasis was more on its potential effect on the prices at termas.
Someone mentioned only a fool would do that. But for those who are familiar with the buss. mentality in Brasil....anything is possible.
I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
But now that it looks as though it is a strong possiblility of Help closing, it occurred to me that it might effect other gp scenes and its pricing, such as termas.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas. So there is definitely a correlation between the Help Scene shutting down and having a trickle effect on more mongers heading to termas, or heading more often. In turn, termas management could benefit on increase demand, and as crazy as it seems......increase in prices at the termas.
I am not prediciting this will happen, just stating it could be a possibility. Hopefully, I am totally wrong.[/QUOTE]
I actually think there is a high probability of such occurring. Carioca Logic and greed will be the cause.
Man, I have had some wonderful times at Help! It will suck ass when gone.
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Help closing and unintended consequences
Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]Spent a few days in rio on business last week. Stayed in the sheraton in barra , great hotel, highly recommended. Only time for mongering was my last night, turned left outside the hotel and 20 minutes walk later was at the cAFE 400. Fantastic women, too many to choose from. After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her. exceptional!!!![/QUOTE]
Probably should have given a bit more information on this place. Its like a termas but you dont need to undress, the girls however are in all sorts of sexy outfits. It cost me R50 to get in and I think half of that could be offset against the bar bill. I went on my last night in Rio, had a great time, drank too much and am not sure how much I spent, probably about the same as one of the best termas. Its only open Mon-Fri, on Saturday it works as a swing club. According to the web site couples can also go on Fridays.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her.[/QUOTE]
What´s the cost for girl+cabin at Cafe 400 Barra?
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[QUOTE=Sperto]What´s the cost for girl+cabin at Cafe 400 Barra?[/QUOTE]
Just cant remember, I think I changed about $300 there, but a lot of drinks. It's not a cheap option, but I thought quality was very good.
[url]http://www.praiaclub400.com.br/[/url]
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Help closing affects GP prices in Rio?
My guess what effect Help closing has to GP's prices:
* In Rio, outside of Copa, the gringo mongers makes out just a tiny part of the mongers. Centro and VM will continue without a price increase.
* In Copa there might be an increase at L'uomo and MC as these two termas have a lot of gringo customers.
* MP has always been a rip-off and will continue that way.
* Balcony GP's in general are cheaper than MP GP's. The place will propably get a lot more GP's. Might raise the standard of the GP's at Balcony, which is good. The ex Help GP's will propably try to overcharge as there always will be suckers who don't mind overpaying. I doubt there will be a drastic price increase of the old Balcony girls.
* The streetwalkers will be more. Working the streets are though. The SW's can't be fuzzy if they want business. Propably no price increase.
I see no reason to monger in Copa so I have no worries about the GP prices rising. Loosing Help as a night club is no loss at all. Rio has a great night-life outside Copa.
It's good for the lazy Help girls getting their fat asses out on the street doing some honest GP work instead of ripping of gringos.
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Help closing, prices go down
Disagree with the idea that prices go up. The prices in termas, etc. Have gone up partly in step with the health of the brazilian economy. Most things in brazil have gone up quite a bit when you are going to the higher end restaurants/hotels, etc. And the termas are part of that higher end lifestyle.
But no more help will mean more girls working for escort services, more selection, more deals, etc. And if help closes, some people will stop coming to Rio looking for pay-to-play and therefore less demand. Also, without help, the girls will not all be centrally located in one "market", so, prices are more open for individuals to negotiate and I think that most of the guys on this forum know how to negotiate, so, for those in the know, prices go down.
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Marcia Vip
I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
[url]www.marciavip.blog.br[/url]
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo
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[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
I have to say. I see a lot you think that the prices will rise and that mongering will be more expencive. But think twice dear friends. Imagine there is no Help, which in my opininion is have kept the prices up. The reason I think that is because the GDP do talk a lot with each other. Now that this opportunity disapears this might mean that meeting a garota in a different place with less other GDP's might lower the price.
You know, here in my coutry it got illegal to buy sex about 6 months ago and every one thought the prices would increase due to the fact less access to GDP's. Never happend, same prices and not less GDP's. Just a fact that new scenes were created. Don't worry guys. For sure it will work out for us. Learn a couple of frases in portuguese and you can even get it for free.
Greetings
Chico
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Gringo Prices
[QUOTE=Geofagus]I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
[url]www.marciavip.blog.br[/url]
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo[/QUOTE]
Geo did a smart thing which is picked up a copy of O Dia. Sometimes there are private apartments listed with prices and specials. If you go, take the ad with you that way it is hard for them to charge you the gringo price.
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Becareful
[QUOTE=Geofagus]I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
[url]www.marciavip.blog.br[/url]
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo[/QUOTE]Becareful with this agency, they are not true to their word. It was a mission trying to set up a festinha with this agency. They changed their prices when I called and there was always uncertainty when dealing with them. I ended up going with another agency for the party I put together. Just becareful guys!
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Becareful with this agency, they are not true to their word. It was a mission trying to set up a festinha with this agency. They changed their prices when I called and there was always uncertainty when dealing with them. I ended up going with another agency for the party I put together. Just becareful guys![/QUOTE]
Good catch Geo! I think that I will give them a shout as I saw someone I'd like to try.
Thanks for the warning Mangera.
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Worried About the Wrong Things!
[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.[/QUOTE]I think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. What we really need to worry about is if Rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 Summer Olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. If they do become the host city forget it; Rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! Not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will GDP's!
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]Just cant remember, I think I changed about $300 there, but a lot of drinks. It's not a cheap option, but I thought quality was very good.
[url]http://www.praiaclub400.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]
I went there a little over a year ago and it was about $180r or so for the girl/room. You had to pay this to this mamasan in a separate room before you go upstairs. Upon exit you give them your ticket and pay the entrance and drinks.
Posted by Iceberg Slim 2
"There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly."
Are you kidding me, the fights are one of the highlights of going into Help, LOL. You can always count on the Help gdps for a good catfight. Yes there is a great nightlife in Rio outside of Copa but for the average gringo Help was convenient and had mostly everything you needed for a *****mongering vacation.
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Nightlife outside Copa
Somebody mentioned it and I do not remember I read something about it in the last 8 months reading the forum....just in case somebody will suggest me RTFF ;)
Lapa ? I was there in january and I did not like it. ( even in disco Rio Antigo I did not see nice girls... )
VM ? Never been there and I do not plan too.
I listen about some discos in Ipanema, but I have no idea where they exactly are.
So where exactly is this nightlife ?
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
[url]www.marciavip.blog.br[/url]
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo[/QUOTE]
Did you find out where they are located? R$70 or R$35 one way means almost to the airport doesn't it? Or a similar distance?
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]My guess what effect Help closing has to GP's prices:
* In Rio, outside of Copa, the gringo mongers makes out just a tiny part of the mongers. Centro and VM will continue without a price increase.
* In Copa there might be an increase at L'uomo and MC as these two termas have a lot of gringo customers.
* MP has always been a rip-off and will continue that way.
* The streetwalkers will be more. Working the streets are though. The SW's can't be fuzzy if they want business. Propably no price increase.
I see no reason to monger in Copa so I have no worries about the GP prices rising. Loosing Help as a night club is no loss at all. Rio has a great night-life outside Copa.
It's good for the lazy Help girls getting their fat asses out on the street doing some honest GP work instead of ripping of gringos.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Help sucks. The last time I was inside was 2005, and that is because I only wanted to show a newbie. I had to beg the doorman to let me in wearing shorts just to show this guy. But when the prices started rising above R$15 to go inside I would no longer support the place. Now I have been known to stand out front to get them going in, coming out, or the TA girls, but R$100 TLN is my limit.
As a matter of fact I remember my very first time on the scene. I didn't even make it inside of Help. I found a gem outside and decided to take her for TLN 100. And that was when the US dollar was almost 4-to-1. I had the time of my life. Videos and everything. I didn't even sleep until 10 the next morning. The next morning I gave her R$100 and she started bitching saying it was supposed to US$100. I said shit I am in Brazil, I don't even have US money. Then she was saying how she was going to get her friends who are cops. Being a newbie I was scared for the next couple of days but I still only gave her R$100.
Anyway. When I do monger it is in places like VM and downtown casas. Those places cater to locals so like Sperto said I am not worried about the Copa crowd (gringos or gdps) screwing them up. The same pussy I am paying R$26 for earlier in the night, someone in Copa is paying R$200 for later on that night when they get off work!
P.S. MP pissed me off about 8 months ago when I stopped in to shoot the shit. I ordered a caipirinha and it came to R$12. I cursed the waiter's ass out and said mf R$12? I can go to the store and buy 3 bottles of cachaca for that! It will be a cold day in hell before y'all see me back in here.
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6 months ago illegal
[QUOTE=Chicobarca]You know, here in my coutry it got illegal to buy sex about 6 months ago[/QUOTE]My condolences. Do you mind saying which country that is or at least the part of the world? I had no idea this happened.
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[quote=musze3000]i think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. what we really need to worry about is if rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 summer olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. if they do become the host city forget it; rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will gdp's![/quote]solution if rio gets the 2016 olympics, stay out of rio. like carnival season prices will go up, but they will come down after the olympics. and the helpee girls will starve if helpee closes. after walking the street for a few hours, they will get hungry and tired to beg for someone to let them sleep in a mongers apartment for r$100.00. remember supply and demand, the more gdp in one area comoeting in the same manner, prices will go down. they all can't sleep on the beach at the same time. and with all the gdp prices at low bottom, less mongers will spend money in high end termas.
that's my theory.
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Think of Help as a 7-11 GDP store
[QUOTE=Chicobarca]Hi Guys,
I have to say. I see a lot you think that the prices will rise and that mongering will be more expencive. But think twice dear friends. Imagine there is no Help, which in my opininion is have kept the prices up. The reason I think that is because the GDP do talk a lot with each other. Now that this opportunity disapears this might mean that meeting a garota in a different place with less other GDP's might lower the price.
Greetings
Chico[/QUOTE]I agree with Chico. Help is a place that the GDPs get to talk to one another and set prices. It is a convenience store where toursits could go and see all sorts of ladies. Lazy, drunk tourists negotiating with for lazy GDPs = higher prices. Like drunk dudes looking for munchies at 3 am at a 7-11. They don't negotiate the price on Doritos, hot dogs, twinkies and a Big Gulp. The ladies were shooting fish in a barrell. Having more independents spread out having to hustle for attention should lower prices IMO. I never took a lady out of Help as it did not sound appealling from what I read here. I have been dealing with independents, agencies and termas (sessioning with the ladies both in and out of the termas) and have been very pleased with the results. The termas can only handle so much more business. Most times I go to a termas there are too many women for too few guys already - and there are only limited rooms. Supply and demand.
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Ryj..
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Did you find out where they are located? R$70 or R$35 one way means almost to the airport doesn't it? Or a similar distance?[/QUOTE]
The girl who showed up said they were located Northern Centro. Check this out, the maddam name who runs the place is Marcia. When the girl showed up, she showed up in a regular car with a woman driving. It wasnt a taxi. She came up to my room and asked me to pay her because she had to bring the money downstairs to the driver (which was a woman). I told her I would follow her back to the car and she said no problem. She then gave the woman in the car the money and she drove off. We went back upstairs and she was great. Totally completa! BBBJ, cum in mouth, anal..you name it, there was no problem, literally wore me out.
I later found out that the driver was actually Marcia who takes the girls herself long distance ensuring the client actually is truthful. So I believe this agency does not believe in the honor system that when a client calls for a GDP, if she is late, the client will just not answer the door if she shows up 3 hours late. They might have gotten burned a few times showing up late and the client refusing to let her in.
Geo
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KarlaModels
This is probably by far the best reliable Agency in Rio. Independants are good, also but more expensive. I found out how this agency operates. Karla Agency is a house (not a Casa d Masagem), with rooms fillled with bunk beds for the girls only. The girls have to be awake at 8am to work and they are done by 10:00pm. They work a 5 day a week shift and then they are off 2 days. The days they are working they MUST go back to the house to sleep (unless you can agree with some type of payment for the night). Some of these girls are really hot and yes they go back to a military style bunk bed to sleep at night to wake up early to attend clients. I confirmed this with 3 girls already. Apparently, the working class in Brazil, like morning sex alot before heading off to work.
What I like about this agency is that they dont pull a switch on you and if you tell them you want the girl at your pad by a certain time, they are there exactly when you want. Had 3 different girls in 3 days and all were great!
Geo
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I concur, I have used Karla Models on every trip and was never disappointed about the GDP service/looks.
Scortshow is the same agency with a different website, mostly the same girls.
[url]http://www.scortshow.net/[/url]
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Karla Models / Scortshow
[QUOTE=Buscemi]I concur, I have used Karla Models on every trip and was never disappointed about the GDP service/looks.
Scortshow is the same agency with a different website, mostly the same girls.
[url]http://www.scortshow.net/[/url][/QUOTE]I have used both agencies with mostly good results. Last time, I had Soraya (sp? ) and she was 20 lbs heavier than her photos with an okay face. I almost sent her back. She brought the book along and I was going to make a switch. But she had a great attitude and personality. I stayed with her and the sex and company were terrific. Actually some of the best I had that trip. They are always making changes to the roster, and there are so many recent additions. I'll be in Rio in several weeks. If you have any ladies from these sites that you recommend it would be greatly appreciated.
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tj hit centro today. it was relatively dead, which might mean people are waiting for payday.
anyway, i had sessions with 3 girls today. paula, a blond on floor 3 of ba85. she is the one who a guy reported walked off from him last month. well, i knew who she was when i read his post and decided to try her. she knows me so i knew she would not diss me. anyway, she is not a good lay. very dry! no orgasm for me.
i also sessioned with amanda on the 3rd floor. she is dark brown with blonde streaks in her hair. her tits are big and she has a nice sized butt. it felt good but no orgasm. actually, i held off with her to some extent.
finally, i went to floor 2 to see renata. she is ignoring me again. oh, well, i went with vonda, the short, older one who is always there. she has a good attitude so i felt i had to be nicew and give her a try. she gave a good bj then i put a finger down there and boom, it was wetter than i could believe. i could actually see the wetness on my finger in the dark of the second floor. it took me around 5 minutes (ok 3) to orgasm. i have decided that you can never tell who is going to be good in bed. looks do not matter.
crazy women (remember elizabeth from mabs who followed me into a therma, ran up a tab at mabs in my name, and hung outside my door for hours peeking through the crack in the floor), older women (vonda), and others who are not the best looking seem to have some good p***y!
p.s. i forgot to add that when i was on floor 2 something ran across my leg. i kept my shoes on but still did the deed. also on floor 4 a bug or something ran from behind the counter while i was sitting there, saw me and ran the other way. a bit scary.
tj
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I have a house call in progress at the moment. I reached a girl I met years ago via yahoo chat. My message asked her to stop by for R50 and when I got back from centro she had left a message saying ok. (she said she really missed me which is a way, probably, to rationalize to herself taking the low price.)
She just arrived, no mention of money, but I gave her R20 to get some beer (that is why I am free to type this message).
When she comes back I am going to let her drink a few, get a BJ while watching TV (I like sitting around using the remote while girls are giving me a BJ. Got to love the whole power of the moment!).
I will be sure to verify the price before we get to sex.
I will let you guys know how it turns out.
Only downside is she wore panties. I have got to train her like I did Kezia! In fact, i should have yanked them off her before sending her out for the beer.
NO DRAWERS, PLEASE.
TJ
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status report
House call is going well. She volunterred to cook breakfast and dinner all this week. I gave her R50 to shop for groceries. She will be back in a few minutes. Meanwhile, I am kicking back drinking the Jack Daniels I bought in Duty Free!
I already got an orgasm; the sex was good. I am going to give her R50 for the sex, no problems.
I admit she did ask for an extra 20R for her sick daughter. This could be BS, but I am not concerned. R50 is only $25US for the sex and I am going to get it again while she cooks BUTT NAKED! Plus she is cooking all this week.
Besides I only spent R50 at BA 85 (see previous post), so I am making out quite well.
TJ
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Plans for Discoteca
Is this what HELPy will become?
[url]http://gizmodo.com/5337726/museum-of-image-and-sound-to-stand-as-rio-de-janeiros-next-beachside-attraction[/url]
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]TJ hit centro today.
Finally, I went to floor 2 to see Renata. She is ignoring me again. Oh, well, I went with Vonda, the short, older one who is always there. She has a good attitude so I felt I had to be nicew and give her a try. SHe gave a good BJ then I put a finger down there and boom, it was wetter than I could believe.[/QUOTE]
Is this the older white chick I saw with a bunch of tattoos? If so, DAMN I knew I should have fucked her.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]P.S. I forgot to add that when I was on floor 2 something ran across my leg. I kept my shoes on but still did the deed. TJ[/QUOTE]
You just reminded me of why I didn't fuck her...LOL!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Is this the older white chick I saw with a bunch of tattoos? If so, DAMN I knew I should have fucked her.
You just reminded me of why I didn't fuck her...LOL![/QUOTE]
That is her.
LOL. On floor 2, they keep it dark in the back for a reason. I doubt we really want to see the floor.
TJ
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good in call
Ok. My in call just left, it is a few minutes before 9am Rio time. She stayed all night, cooked dinner, and just cleaned the kitchen before leaving. I am to call her again today around 5pm.
Last night we we sitting around watching TV and getting drunk and it became obvious she did not want to go home, so I let her stay.
This morning I gave her R50 and she left.
I am glad there are still some Copa girls who have their heads on straight.
TJ
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Help!
Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV
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[QUOTE=Gianni Versace]Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV[/QUOTE]
Ask the guys in the Rio apartment/hotel thread for the best answers.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Gianni Versace]Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV[/QUOTE]
Im over in Rio right now. I've made around 20+ trips here and always stay in Copacabanna. Get yourself an apartment around the Miguel Lemos/Rua Djalma Ulrich area if you want to be in the middle of the action. Termas Loumo/Monte Carlo are short walk , HELP is here (only for a short time more), beach is right across the street, Terracco Atlantico and Meia Pataca are cool day time Mongering places during day as well. Av N. Copacabanna is right up the block and has bars, kilos, restaurants of your choice. Post office, Cartorios and Banks are all here.
I like this area...but I Monger in Centro now. lol!
Geo
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BellasGatas
Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
[url]www.bellasgatas.com[/url]
Geo
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
[url]www.bellasgatas.com[/url]
Geo[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Does make it very difficult for most travelers. Perhaps, you could give them the number to the security desk. Just a thought.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
[url]www.bellasgatas.com[/url]
Geo[/QUOTE]Why not just give her your cell how would she know its not residential lol.
It do have Rio area code lol
i would have lol
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
[url]www.bellasgatas.com[/url]
Geo[/QUOTE]
Once in a while, KarlaModels will do the same thing. Last year I had called KM to deliver a couple a couple of girls and I had to argue for like 3 minutes because I only had a cell number.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Interesting. Does make it very difficult for most travelers. Perhaps, you could give them the number to the security desk. Just a thought.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Im not to keen on giving the front desk number. Even though i am in an apartment. I call every day, so i dont want the desk guys to think i owe them something monetarily.
Having a blast. Over on Djalma Ulrich. PM me, give me a call, goin to Lapa tonight,
Geo
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pricing in centaurus
Interesting... I went to Centaurus armed only with the knowledge from Bwana guide and raised a bit of stink claiming that they charged me tourist prices (120 entry, 300 reals for 40 min) (the guides say something like 90/230) if memory serves me right. Now I'm searching through the posts to see what are `real' prices since I would like to know if I was overcharged or not.... can some of the experienced members answer this? - my first time in Rio.
Btw, as I was expressing my concerns about the pricing, they pulled out some printed sheet showing the prices that they charged me, and in addition another english-speaking client who was passing by mentioned that this was `the most transparent' place in Rio.... not exactly in accordance to what I'm reading in this forum. Well, he also mentioned that their prices could be different at different days of week... what a transparency!
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not.
120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
About 20 girls, the same quality as in the other termas. Only two customer and me and my friend, we left after one beer....I am happy I saw it, first and last time in my life.
Solarium21, even if it is a bit more far from copa, but it reminds me, as prices and quality, Montecarlo. I saw almost all the same girls I saw in january.
I spoke too long with a girl and her handjob and french kissing, convinced me to go to bedroom. Anal and bbbj, it was all good, but nothing wonderful, too mechanical, but I do not regret.
Later help and....one of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I start to spoke with a thin tall, great body, average face, after a bit of DFK, she told me....well, my price is 300 reais, but I found a man that gives me 400 reais to go with him, but if you pay me 400 reais, I like you more and I go away with you.
I smiled.....and I start the usual questions....how long time you will stay with me ? She said...till 6:00 am.....it was the 4:11am....I told her, so you think you are gonna to get 400 reais for something as 90 minutes at early morning ?
She no more smiled, she understood I never went to pay her and she stand up and out loud said that.... " you do not like me ! "
We were sitting outside, some persons close to me smiled, others looked to me surprised, as if I said something bad.....I was happy she left, I still neither start to ask if she did bbbj and anal and to work to get her price down, that she showed very well her attitude....
The bad thing here, is that she was one of the best one yesterday....
In one hour I will be there and is even today nothing, I will go to check some boites at prado junior just to see something different.
Lukasek
P.S. Terraco Atlantico is good place to see the girls, ok, I agree, but there I ate the worst sea fruit rice of all my life...imho.[/QUOTE]
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Rio May 2009 - Day 1
touched down in gig in the early morning and on leaving the plane (before immigration) was greeted by a bunch of brazilians from the ministerio do saude with mouth covers and gloves ... was feeling kind of strange and i had to fill out a small piece of paper with my name, tel no and if i had some symptoms .... i was wondering who actually answers these questions honestly? anyway, didn´t take long and i could go on, immigration was fast and very friendly, my suitcase also arrived and i was ready to go. before leaving i called fred from my apartment rental ([url]www.thewonderfulcity.com[/url]) and told him that i will be coming with the next airport bus and would like to meet him at the apartment. the airport bus (7r$) took more than 75 minutes to get to copacabana due to heavy morning traffic. when i arrived at the apartment fred was not there, but it turned out that his mother had been there but i just missed her by some minutes and she left the key with the guard. so i received the key and went to my apartment. it was just like on the pictures on their website and totally ok for my purposes ... it was just around the corner from helpee (roughly 100 meters) and had a large bed with huge mirrors (yes!!! lol), a tv, a cd player, ac, a small bathroom with a warm shower, a small kitchenette with fridge, coffee maker, oven and all necessary kitchen utensils.
i showered and organized myself: i went to the office of wonderfulcity.com to pay my balance, bought a sim card from tim (15 r$ without credits), took some money from an atm and bought stuff in a supermarket in order to fill up my frigde! in my apartment i laid down and took a nap for an hour. after that i had a stroll at the beach and finally decided to go to vila mimosa and check it out.
let me take this opportunity to thank sperto for his great reports and maps ... they really helped me a lot and made it all a lot easier! thank you so much sperto ...please go on with your great job for isg and all of us.
took the metro from copacabana to são cristovão (2,80 r$) ... took me 40 minutes and thanks to the map from sperto could find vila mimosa quite easily ... i arrived there at 1.30 pm ... not so many girls there and also not all bars and corridors already open, but i took a tour around and checked the available girls.
one caught my eyes .. she was pregnant (maybe 5th or 6th month) and 20 yo, her name was chrystal. we just had a small conversation and we fixed the deal (but i forgot to fix a bbbj... shit). i paid 27r$ at the bar (1r$ extra for condom if you do not bring your own) and saw in the list where the girls “register their business” that i was the first customer for her on this day. very good, since i prefer fresh pussies ..., so we went in the back of the bar and up a dark and narrow spiral staircase. on the first floor the girls do have their rooms ... very basic, very small, just enough for a mattress and a small alley but with ac ...very dirty (mattress and floor). she brought her blanket and put it over the mattress .. ok, but i wouldn't like to lay down there .. so the positions were somehow restricted. i took some photos although she refused to let me take her pussy and some action shots ... she gave me a covered bj (due to the hygienic standard i didn't try daty), then i fucked her in a few different positions. she was very loud and it seemed to me that she thought that if she would make sounds like in a porn movie that this would make me come faster .... anyway she rushed me and finally i blew my load.
out in the street again another girl with nice sized titts raised my interest .. she just arrived and i followed her to her bar and after some minutes i went over to her and talked to her. she was 20yo, named juliana, and agreed to my conditions (bbbj, photos) and so i paid 27r$ again (another fresh pussy!), we went up another narrow spiral staircase and into a room. same story like before ... very dirty, but at least the girl was more pleasing, not rushing things, let me take photos of everything and gave me a nice bbbj. then i entered her and we changed a few times the positions (but i never laid on the mattress) until i finally finished. we went down and i went back to the metro station to go back to my apartment.
i relaxed a few hours, then i went for dinner in a churrascaria. afterwards i watched some tv and took a nap preparing for a night in help.
my alarm clock woke me up at 11pm... boy, was i tired. so i decided not to go inside help but i would try my luck outside of help ... although tired i didn't want to spoil a night without some brazilian pussy ... went there at 11.30 pm and there were a lot of garotas still waiting outside. i walked around, talked to some garotas and finally i made my choice ... a 25 yo dark morena with a huge bunda with the name of ana bella. she wanted 150r$ for 1 hour and she didn't want to go down .. so after some negotiating i accepted and she agreed to bbbj and photos. so off we went to my apartment. at first she posed for some photos (and she seemed to enjoy it), then we had a shower and finally we came to action. she gave me a soso bbbj, i gave her a long daty and she always edged me to go on with “chupa mais!”. i fucked her in multiple positions for some time until i came. shortly afterwards she stood up and got dressed. so after 45 minutes she left, but i wasn't pissed, since i was tired and was happy that i could sleep alone.
see also my pix of the girls in the photo gallery!
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Rio May 2009 - Day 2
I woke up at 9am, showered and decided to do some tourist stuff. So I went to Centro by metro and walked around the Catedral and the Arcos da Lapa. I took the tramway to Santa Teresa (0,60 R$ OW) and made a circle. Afterwards I walked back to the next metro station and went back to my apartment. I rested for some minutes and went to Vila Mimosa by metro. Arrived there at 3.25 pm and I entered the first corridor and as soon as I was inside I already found my girl for a quick fuck. She was 19yo, her body was smoking hot and she agreed to everything. So I paid 25 R$ and we went up a narrow spiral staircase to a small room (just as yesterday). She immediately started to pose and I took some nice photos. Then I unpacked my dick and she gave me a BBBJ ... after 5 minutes she put the condom over and I fucked her first doggie style. We changed positions a few times and after some time I couldn't hold it any longer and I let it come. She cleaned my dick and we got dressed and went down. Once outside I decided to go back to Copacabana and to relax and to get some sleep.
See also my pix of the girl in the photo gallery!
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At 11.30 pm I went to Help. I went straight inside (28 R$ cover charge) and waited until it filled. After 12 am the garotas were abundant and I talked to many of them during the course of the night, but I must say, there was no real stunner among them, IMHO just above average. And the funny thing was, that the quoted ridiculous prices ... from 300 R$ for TLN until 300 R$ for only one hour ... and they even didn't want to go lower. So I already put off my plan to take one home tonight, on my way out at 3 am, one stopped my and talked to me. So I tried my luck for the last time and she agreed on 200 TLN (with BBBJ, photos, and everything). Her name was Sol Maria and she was 20yo (morena, small, slim rack, long black hair). Actually this should have rung some alarm bells in me, but at this moment I wasn't thinking and I took her home. Inside my apartment I soon started to regret my decision deeply, coz she turned out to be a pain in the ass and first wanted the money up front (which I declined, and offered her half payment now and the other half later – she accepted), second didn't want to be taken photos naked (she said something about police which I, with my limited Portuguese, not understood), third didn't want to do BBBJ, and fourth wanted only to stay for 1 hour for 200 R$. After some discussion in which I lost my mood totally, I just wanted to get it over and her out. So I agreed to her “imposed conditions”, she gave me a CBJ, I fucked her hard, changed the position just once and finished it. I gave her the money and threw her out of my apartment. Now I do know what you guys mean when you are talking about the bad attitude of the Help girls. Totally pissed I went to sleep.
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Rio May 2009 - Day 3
In the morning I took a bus to Cosme Velho and went to Corcovado. The day was beautiful (sunny, blue sky) and the view was breathtaking. Although I have been up there already many times, this is always something which makes me feel reverential ... what a wonderful city! After 1,5 hours on top I went down and went directly to Vila Mimosa by metro. I wandered around the corridors and bars but this time nothing raised my deeper interest ... so after 30 minutes I called it off and went back home, where I first checked the internet and my mails, went for dinner (rodizio) and took a nap. At 11 pm I went for a stroll along Copacabana. I decided not to go to Help this night but to try my luck just outside of Help. Had some drinks in a beach bar on Copacabana and on my way back to my apartment I stopped in front of Help and checked the available talent. Went around, chatted with some girls, but nothing I really liked, and with the experience from last night I was very cautious and reserved. So after 30 minutes I called it a night and went to sleep alone.
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Rio May 2009 - Day 4 v
Since it was a Sunday and all of Rio seemed to be at the beach I also went to Ipanema and Copacabana beach. Wow, eye candy wherever you turned your head ... unbelievable small strings and nice bundas .. in all colors and shapes ... God must have had a very good day when he created Rio and the Carioca women.
After 3 hours of mouthwatering watching and astonishing I needed some action ... so I strolled over Copacabana boardwalk, passed by the Othon and in one of the beach bars/ kiosks I saw a cutie smiling at me – she was with a female friend and was only wearing a hot pants and a yellow T-shirt without a bra and her nipples were clearly visible. I passed by but after 50 meters I turned around and sat at the table next to her. Of course, she immediately made contact (her name was Marcia) and we started a conversation, during which her friend left and we continued. Our conversation was going more and more in the direction as planned and she asked me whether I was looking for company this afternoon (she was a garota da programa and works in a bar on Av. Atlantica at night). Of course I affirmed it and from then on everything was set ... but she didn't want to quote me her price ... she always said that she will tell me afterwards. Normally this rings my alarm bells, but I was somehow feeling comfortable with her and I was so horny that I just went for it. So after we had paid we went to my apartment. Once in the room we started to kiss and grope each others for a while. Since she didn't allow action photos, I just could get 2 images of her dressed. We showered and cleaned and then we started the real action on the bed. I must say, that the sex with this little cutie was definitely one of my better experiences in last years. We kissed really wild (DFK), I kissed her body all over including DATY, then she returned the favor and gave me a nice long BBBJ, and then she put on a condom and rode me like a wild cowgirl. We switched the positions multiple times and we were sweating like hell ... even the AC couldn't help. After some 45 minutes of wild banging during which she came 3 times, I took off the condom and asked her to suck me until I came. Actually I asked her to CIM but she didn't want it ... so when I came she removed my dick out of her mouth and let me ejaculate on my belly (and unfortunately on the bed). She rushed for some tissues and cleaned my dick. Afterwards she laid to me on the bed again and we held each others and stroke our bodies. I was really feeling very good .. and she also enjoyed it and was a real GFE. After a while she asked me to tell her when she should leave ... but I still wanted to feel her company and so we laid there for more than 45 minutes. But then I wanted her to leave, she cleaned, got dressed, left me her mobile number and asked me for 200 R$ which I declined with a smile and we settled for 150R$ ... for more than 2 hours of fun a decent deal in Rio .. I think she was happy and so was I.
See also my pix (no nudes) of the girl in the photo gallery!
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I showered again, watched some TV, wrote this report and went for dinner in my favorite churrascaria.
Afterwards I went to the beach and sat in one of the kiosks/ beach bars and had a couple of cerevjas and caipirinhas ... maybe one or two too much, since I was feeling drunk and had no mood to find some pussy. So I went back and went to sleep.
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Rio May 2009 - Day 5
Another sunny and hot day in paradise .. so I went to explore Praia de Botafogo (totally deserted) and afterwards Praia do Flamengo ... at least here I could enjoy some hot bundas. After 2 hours of baking in the sun I was feeling for some pussy and so I went to Vila Mimosa again (for the last time of my trip). Looked around, not so much choice, but since I was there I chose a blonde (not real blonde) with small titts, her name was Rayssa and she was 20yo. She agreed on BBBJ and photos and I paid 27 R$, we went up the obligatory spiral staircase and into the room. As it turned out she suddenly just wanted to be taken on one photo without her face ... I was pissed again, stowed away my camera, took out my dick and asked her to suck me which she did. After some time she put on the condom and I fucked her first missionary (somehow avoiding top lay on the mattress) and then doggie style. After some heavy pounding I came. She cleaned my dick and I got dressed and went back to Copacabana.
My overall conclusion of Vila Mimosa:
- in the late afternoon I was feeling quite safe, but I definitely wouldn't go there after dark alone ...next time I would explore it at night but only with a buddy/ wingman
- in the afternoon only a few garotas available; I was told that at night there are many more
- a very seedy place, very dirty; the cabins/ rooms and the mattresses are hard to take .. but IMHO ok for a quick fuck with some young garotas
- also cheap fuck ... only 25/ 27 R$ for some 20 minutes
- definitely low end, not for the fainted hearted, but if you can take it, it is ok
So back in Copacabana I got a quick bite and relaxed in my apartment.
Then at 9 pm I went out for a stroll along Copacabana and stopped at some kiosks to have some drinks ... but this time I didn't get drunk because I also wanted to have a final Brazilian fuck that night, since I would leave for home the next day. So back in front of Help, I saw one garota which caught my eyes ... and if you see the pix you will know why ... she was really sexy, no bra, no panties, short skirt, a T-shirt which hardly covered her titts and nipples. This one I wanted to have .. so I went over and talked to her. Her name was Erika, 25yo, and she started the negotiations with 300R$ for one hour. I said no and after some back and forth we settled at 150 R$ ... CBJ but including photos (but no sex photos) ... since I wanted to fuck this cutie so desperately we closed the deal and went to my apartment. Even the guard at the lobby couldn't concentrate signing her in, since her titts and nipples kept popping out ... poor guy ... so once in my apartment she wanted to be paid first and wouldn't drop it ... so after some minutes I finally agreed since I felt that I could trust her and handed her the 150 R$. After that she somehow was more relaxed (she seemed to have made bad experiences in regards to money issues with some fellow mongers) and we started kissing ... no DFK. After I will I took out my camera and took some shots ... and she was willing to pose in every position I wanted her ... I just couldn't take any close-up pix of her pussy or any action ones. But anyway, I was happy to have at least those ... and so we went one, I undressed her slowly, always taking new photos, she undressed me, we both cleaned each others and then we went on the bed for the action. She immediately gave me a CBJ and then I returned the favor and gave her DATY ... after a while, she was moaning, I couldn't resist anymore and entered her missionary, then we changed to cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie and finally I couldn't hold it any longer and shot my soldiers into the rubber. She laid down and we just relaxed for 5 minutes and then she stood up, cleaned, got dressed and left. Totally satisfied I went to sleep. What a nice final fuck of my Rio trip!
See also my pix of the girl in the photo gallery!
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Rio May 2009 - Day 6
After waking up I packed my suitcase, met Fred in the lobby to hand over the apartment key and went by airport bus to the international airport. So long Brazil. Ate mais!
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sabado in centro
Went to centro today. The area is still is not a lively as it has been in the past on Saturdays.
BA 85 had two floors open. The selection was not good at all.
I sessioned with Vonda, the older, short chick on the 2nd floor. I got a real good look between her legs today and saw she has some nice puffy lips down there. R15
I also sessioned with Suela (?) on floor one. She is normally a floor 3 girl, but as I have said previously they open floor one on Saturdays and girls from other floor work there.
Suela is dark brown with shoulder length hair (curly, not straight hair). R15, plus she asked for R10 for anal. I did not catch what she was saying and did the deed (actually she put it in there, not me). Afterwards she sat around and then "reminded" me of my promise of an extra R10. I gave it to her rather than argue but reminded myself never to mess with her again. Then she told me she is going to Copacabana beach on Sunday, which informed me she knew I was American.
There are too many of us going to centro now and it is just going to get worse with them scamming.
They are playing lots of hip hop and rap now, but I know this is partly because Brazil has such a large young population.
Total was a little under R50.
Had a good time.
TJ
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Spent the Afternoon at Copa Beach
Sun was really warm and everyone was out. My mistake of drinking Stohls in the sun as I was talking to 3 beauties laying on the sand. Naturally I had to ask them for a 'Triplas' since the alchol was taking over. Another big mistake, as we all know when we drink alot in the sun, screwing can become problematic. They charged me R50 each for the hour. I think they knew this was easy money for them, because of my condition. I only sank my johnson into one of them, while the other 2 were the ball lickers. I was out of gas after that. I even told all 3 of them to leave after 1/2 hour, after i did the deed.
Oh well, I have pissed away the equivalence of R150 in worse ways. It think it was way more mental being with 3 GDPs than actually enjoying a full hour.
Geo
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[QUOTE=Carpediem]...
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.[/QUOTE]
Carpediem,
funny as you quoted the post I wrote half year ago :)
The only difference between Centaurus and the other termas is in higher prices and not in better looking girls IMHO.
And yes, Centaurus is the place EVERY taxi driver want to show you...
Geo,
150 reais it worth a triplas, experience not many men in the world tried ;)
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Expectations?
Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?
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True, but Rio is a long shot
[QUOTE=Musze3000]I think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. What we really need to worry about is if Rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 Summer Olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. If they do become the host city forget it; Rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! Not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will GDP's![/QUOTE]Yep, this happens anytime a major event lands in any city. Prices for everything increase. When the Super Bowl rolls into town.. everything becomes more expensive and crowded.
Smart money has Chicago as the city selected for the Olympics.. All eyes are on Brasil because they will host the 2014 World Cup. That success might get the country the Olympics in 2020.
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Dont worry so much....
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?[/QUOTE]
About communicating with the Garotas in Portuguese. If they dont understand you, they will pull up fingers telling you how much. Spanish numbers and hours are similar to Portuguese numbers...you'll get by.
Only probelm you would have, would be ordering a GDP from an agency. Unless you know someone who knows Portuguese that can order for you.
Girls range in prices. If you read the posts here, you will see after 3am prices drop dramatically anywhere you go. At midnight, expect the bidding to start between R400-R500 for the night. With agencies, you can''t negotiate the prices.
Just remember this, if you can get a decent price between R200-250 it will be later..much later in the evening. Just me, but at 3 or 4am, I personally only have gas in my tank for one time around. Why pay R250 for one time around? I personally like to call the agencies around 8pm and drill for oil 2 hours with her. When she leaves around 10pm, I've only paid R120-R150 for the 2 hours. I'm content, take a nap and wake up around 1:30am and go to Help to see what I can bargain with as the night goes deeper.
Did this routine all this week and it works!!
Good Luck
Geo
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price advice
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?[/QUOTE]
You should probably re-post in the general information section to get better responses.
Language will not be a barrier in Copacabana. Money runs things in Copa and money is universal. I have seen guys writing numbers on a napkin to negotitate. Since you do not speak Porto and have no reputation in Copa, you should stick to Geo's advice and just play the market to your advantage. Do not try to negotiate too hard, just get the price you want at the time you want. If late at night, for example, take the R150 price for 2 hours and let her walk home afterwards! Most likely you got all she was going to do anyway. You may miss out on a last session in the morning before she leaves, but ,I guess you get the point.
Prices are generally around the range Geo. stated.
I have posted some R50 all nighters here but that was from a private in call (I have never used an agency, though i might today). Once you have been here many, many, many, many, times you can just be blunt, to the point, and pay them a low rate. But these will be girls you have known for years (5 to 10 years in my case).
To any this may help: If interested in a cheaper trip I always tell guys from the US that you are much better off flying to San Diego on Southwest for $300, getting a nice hotel (the market is slow in CA) and making daily trips to Tijuana, where you can get girls from US20 short time to US$60 for an hour.
In Copa, just enjoy the atmosphere and relax. The price range you got from Geo, should be your guide. The main thing is to relax, not overpay, and not worry about what you do pay (sounds contradictory but you will see what I mean).
The girls here are more into sex than those in other places so in the end you always come out a winner.
TJ
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RE: expectations
Much abliged GEO and TJ. Now I have a better perspective.
I'm a bit thrown off about paying $400R for one night with a chick unless she is Andressa Sores. After spending so much time in the DR I have grown accustom to chicas taking whatever you care to give them(just the Monger in me), usually no more than US$40.
Also, I imagine the quality of chica is going to be well worth the reais vs DR chicas?
I will take both of your advice and enjoy the atmosphere and hope to get lucky. I picked up a couple of snazzy new outfits with clean shoes hopefully I'll get a chicas attention
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]You should probably re-post in the general information section to get better responses.
Language will not be a barrier in Copacabana. Money runs things in Copa and money in universal. I have seen guys writing numbers on a napkin to negotitate. Since you do not speak Porto and have no reputation in Copa, you should stick to Geo's advice and just play the market to your advantage. Do not try to negotiate too hard, just get the price you want at the time you want. If late at night, for example, take the R150 price for 2 hours and let her walk home afterwards! Most likely you got all she was going to do anyway. You may miss out on a last session in the morning before she leaves, but ,I guess you get the point.
Prices are generally around the range Geo. stated.
I have posted some R50 all nighters here but that was from a private in call (I have never used an agency, though i might today). Once you have been here many, many, many, many, times you can just be blunt, to the point, and pay them a low rate. But these will be girls you have known for years (5 to 10 years in my case).
As always YMMV, but in general you get what you pay for. I do not advice guys to fly to Rio expecting to pay R50 all night. Nor do I advise them to visit the low budget casas unless they have made their way through Copa and just want a change of pace. It is not worth flying thousands of miles to go to these places, in general.
If interested in a cheaper trip I always tell guys from the US that you are much better off flying to San Diego on Southwest for $300, getting a nice hotel (the market is slow in CA) and making daily trips to Tijuana, where you can get girls from US20 short time to US$60 for an hour.
In Copa, just enjoy the atmosphere and relax. The price range you go from Geo, should be your guide. The main thing is to relax, not overpay, and not worry about what you do pay (sounds contradictory but you will see what I mean).
The girls here are more into sex than those in other places so in the end you always come out a winner.
TJ[/QUOTE]
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Well said TJ
There are women everywhere if your negotiating is a bust. No biggie. I went to the pharmacy today and was on line directly behind a working girl on her day off. It was so obvious she was a GDP. Sundays alot of the GDPs dont attend.
I made up a story that I wasnt feeling well and asked the girl on line if she could recomend a good Allergy pill. She giggled and brought me to the area where all the medicine is, we spoke a bit and I asked her if she would accompany me to a suco place for some juice. She smiled, we went, laughed and talked at the suco place and before I knew it I was nailing her rear 'de cuatro'' in a most pleasant way. She charged me R100 for the hour.
Point is, you find these girls everywhere!
P.S. Left my allergy pills at the suco place...lol
Geo
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[QUOTE=Carpediem]Interesting... I went to Centaurus armed only with the knowledge from Bwana guide and raised a bit of stink claiming that they charged me tourist prices (120 entry, 300 reals for 40 min) (the guides say something like 90/230) if memory serves me right. Now I'm searching through the posts to see what are `real' prices since I would like to know if I was overcharged or not.... can some of the experienced members answer this? - my first time in Rio.
Btw, as I was expressing my concerns about the pricing, they pulled out some printed sheet showing the prices that they charged me, and in addition another english-speaking client who was passing by mentioned that this was `the most transparent' place in Rio.... not exactly in accordance to what I'm reading in this forum. Well, he also mentioned that their prices could be different at different days of week... what a transparency!
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.[/QUOTE]
The prices on that guide went up like 2 years ago to the price that you posted. I haven't been to that place in maybe 4 years or so. I'm not sure if there is or ever was a gringo price, but they definitely would charge gringos everything up front with no refund whether you get a girl or not. Some people used to get by just paying the entrada upfront if you were a regular, other than that they would not budge. I don't know if they have relaxed the rules since 2005, but I'm not willing to risk $420R to find out. Plus at the time their girls were not any better than the other termas imho.
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domingo at Mabs
It is 8:20 pm Rio time and I just left Mabs. I sat there for about 3 hours drinking chopp (draft beer) and a free caphirina (national drink of Brazil, which is whiskey, sugar, and lime). I ignored 2 girls who tried to get my attention for 30 minutes by adjusting my IPOD whenever they looked my way.
They were sitting on the other side of Mabs and then got up and moved to a table by me. Trust me, they looked good in their shorts. Then one of my girls, a blonde, rode by on a bike she had rented. She told me she was looking for me (later confirmed by the apartment guard who handed me a note she had given him for me earlier).
The two girls had left and I ordered the #31 on the Mabs menu (R25), frango pihcharia (check spelling) and batatas (french fries). This is fried chicken and fries. The chicken does not have the crust American fried chicken had, it is just fried as is; a little healthier. Ask for pepper (pimento?) to go with it; Just place the juice on it.
Anyway, the blonde showed up and sat down. She ordered herself a beer (a bad sign) and ate a few pieces of chicken (they give you more than you can eat alone). We talked.
I was drunk, but on top of my GAME! I asked her how much. She replied, "you know." This meant the R200 she and others usually charge in Copa. I ordered another chopp and put my IPOD back in my ears. Then I told her NO!
I informed her that I had many girls who ask for r100, though you all know I often pay R50. I was trying to give her a chance to adjust the price.
She looked shocked and then sayed bye and left. I could care less, because I have game (not going to get into what this is but it has nothing to do with learning Porto or dancing in centro or Lapa.LOL!)
Oh yeah, before this happened she asked for the check from the waiter (again a bad sign as you should never let women dominate). He brought it with the beer and I gave him R100, for a 56R tab. He brought the change and I gave him 10R. She grabbed his hand and said let me see. SHe then said, "Oh, that is bus fare, why not taxi fare." These Copa girls can be disrespectful. At this point I would not have given her money to buy a condom!
I can jack off for less! And, I never allow people to disrespect me.
TJ
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TJ...I am LMAO!!
over your story..hey Me and Cho are meeting up for the first time at Balcony Bar at around 10pm tonight. Why not come and join us?
Geo
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]over your story..hey Me and Cho are meeting up for the first time at Balcony Bar at around 10pm tonight. Why not come and join us?
Geo[/QUOTE]
Rio is a funny place and Copa provides funny stories everyday. I will try to make it to Balcony tonight.
I am not too far from it.
TJ
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Gpguia - Higher Level of Security?
I just tried getting into GpGuia. I was using a proxy setting that had previously worked, and got a request for a Username and Password, (which I conveniently forgot.)
After changing the proxy settings, (and a bit of trial and error,) I was granted access to the site WITHOUT a Username and Password request.
Reason I went over there: I was looking to see if there were any post about Help's impending closure: I did not find any.
Here's where I find the proxy's:
[url]http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-port-80.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Much abliged GEO and TJ. Now I have a better perspective.
I'm a bit thrown off about paying $400R for one night with a chick unless she is Andressa Sores. After spending so much time in the DR I have grown accustom to chicas taking whatever you care to give them(just the Monger in me), usually no more than US$40.
Also, I imagine the quality of chica is going to be well worth the reais vs DR chicas?
I will take both of your advice and enjoy the atmosphere and hope to get lucky. I picked up a couple of snazzy new outfits with clean shoes hopefully I'll get a chicas attention[/QUOTE]
New shoes and outfits? Dude, Rio is a shorts and flip-flops town (same way I go to Classicos in Sosua since you mention DR). Not to mention, there is no need to get dressed up for hookers. New outfit or old rags, they are still going to want the same 200 reais from you.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Not to mention, there is no need to get dressed up for hookers. New outfit or old rags, they are still going to want the same 200 reais from you.[/QUOTE]:confused: Yeah heed the above advice lol. Otherwise they'll take whatever you care to give them in keeping with your expensive gringo threads!
Keep the nice outfits for non-GDP areas :)
I don't know DR but I suspect the scenes in Rio are more complex. Very big city. Lots of different scenes. Read the forum and Bubba's guide and have a great time. :)
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Thank You
We all know if there is chemistry between you and the girl you are in for a hell of a time. If there is no chemistry then a mongerer would be better going home alone. We've all had a bad experience with a girl that only saw us a 45min job, we are, but she'll have more fun do'n her F'n job if she can find something about you she likes. I SPEAK ON MY EXPERIENCES ONLY! I'm not disputing the fact that money makes a w*hore's P&ussy wet, I'm just say'n, I'll see what happends.
Also, Mr. Enternational I don't only plan to bang hookers for 2weeks, I am planning to spend sometime with normal brazilians, see the country, see things that they don't have in the my city in the states and always be aware of dress codes at nice resturants or clubs. Hell! I might get a freebie when they see my schlong! I've got'n freebies out of Clasicos because a chica likes my style. Throw on a clean shirt and give it a try, you never no.
I will feel accomplished if I can bang normal chicks off of my smile, charm and clean shirt. Don't care for rags used as clothes often, so that ish is out.
Thanks for the reminder that they are all w*hores. Anything can be challenging until you figure it out.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]: confused: errrmm yeah heed the above advice LOL. Otherwise they'll take whatever you care to give them in keeping with your expensive gringo threads!
Keep the nice outfits for non-GDP areas.
I don't know DR but I suspect the scenes in Rio are more complex. Very big city. Lots of different scenes. Read the forum and Bubba's guide and have a great time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ee2002]The prices on that guide went up like 2 years ago to the price that you posted. I haven't been to that place in maybe 4 years or so. I'm not sure if there is or ever was a gringo price, but they definitely would charge gringos everything up front with no refund whether you get a girl or not. Some people used to get by just paying the entrada upfront if you were a regular, other than that they would not budge. I don't know if they have relaxed the rules since 2005, but I'm not willing to risk $420R to find out. Plus at the time their girls were not any better than the other termas imho.[/QUOTE]In dec 2008 thru jan 2009 I only paid the entrance fee and payed later after I chose my girl
But you do pay before going to the cabine.
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Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN (take American/gringos anywhere). They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. He was yelling outside about how he "DID NOT COME A THOUSAND MILES TO SEE THIS." Ironically, this sounds just like the advice I gave newbies the other day.
New advice: stay your lame asses in Copa where you belong. These cats have never even heard of Luomo or Copa and they thought they were ready for BA85! Trust me newbies, stay in Copa. These newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
Anyway, I got drunk today and was, perhaps, not at the top of my game. I tried a girl I have seen before on floor one (I will get her name tomorrow). I paid R20 to the desk, then she begged 40R from me for a good BBBJ. Well, she sucked for 3 minutes tops then put the condom on. ***** (*sorry ADMIN).
Total today was R70. The newbies bought my beers, so that was good. Actually only one of them bought beers the others hung outside claiming they want to go to 4x4. Go ahead you suckers, pay 300R or whatever. Even when I get screwed over I still leave with hundreds of reals (plural incorrect) in my pockets. That's right, it's me!
TJ
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Oh boy...I have a hunch....
there are going to be some interesting reports comming up.
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Help Closing In 10 Days
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure[/url]
Rio nightclub closure leaves prostitutes Helpless
For decades it has been one of Rio de Janeiro's most notorious nightspots, a neon-lit colossus at the heart of Copacabana beach renowned as a meeting point for wealthy, sunburned tourists and scantily clad prostitutes.
After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup.
Rio's governor, Sergio Cabral, has unveiled a R$65m (£21m) plan to bulldoze the nightclub and replace it with a music-themed museum designed by the US architecture firm Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the same company that gave a facelift to New York's Lincoln Centre.
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city, which has also introduced pioneering policing initiatives in several slums including the City of God favela made famous by Fernando Meirelles's film.
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
He said: "What will happen is that many of the women who are currently 'freelancers' and use Help will be pushed to accept, to one degree or another, pimps as they will have to work the old traditional venues or the infinitely more dangerous street scene. This, of course, puts them and tourists more at risk for crime and violence."
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[quote=tj fannatic]hung around copa today and took some black americans to ba 85. i will never do that again. they seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were a-holes. there was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in meia pataca. he walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. he was yelling outside about how he "did not come a thousand miles to see this." ironically, this sounds just like the advice i gave newbies the other day.
new advice: stay your lame asses in copa where you belong. these cats have never even heard of luomo or copa and they thought they were ready for ba85! trust me newbies, stay in copa. these newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
tj[/quote]
lol. when thinking about attempting to monger with total strangers, especially those that you meet in copa, remember the immortal words of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-wee herman, "i'm a loner dotty, a rebel." [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklizztikrk[/url] -- [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-wee's big adventure (1985)
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city,
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."[/QUOTE]
How smart is this guy. He's going to improve living conditions by putting 2000 people out of business. I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.
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[quote=mr enternational]lol. when thinking about attempting to monger with total strangers, especially those that you meet in copa, remember the immortal words of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-wee herman, "i'm a loner dotty, a rebel." [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklizztikrk[/url] -- [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-wee's big adventure (1985)[/quote]
yeah, i screwed up big time! just like you and lots of others on this forum i have developed a good reputation. now, these gringos have hurt me! as you, mr. e, probably know, girls take notice of gringos who act as if they are too good to be in brazil.
i broke with those guys and hung out and will hit the spot everyday this week to make up for that mistake. but man, there was one girl who walked off from me!
anyway, i went to another spot and i just got the phone number of a girl who did a few scences with evasive angels and also some other stuff (latino oriented porn). she was speaking fast porto so i only caught parts. apparently, she either has a stomach ache or is pregnant, but she did not agree to come over tonight. she did give me her number and i also noticed her boss was watching and trying to listen. he knows whats' up! i think she was partly trying to avoid trouble. this is a regular retail store and girls can get in big trouble for "prostitution." no flames i already know this is a fact in this place.
she has my address and hopefully will use it tonight after work!
once i hook up i will post her full name and some details. she is real cute!
lol! yes, i have been holding out! i know where to find these girls!
tj
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How smart is this guy. He's going to improve living conditions by putting 2000 people out of business. I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.[/QUOTE]
I know, how many people will spend money going to a musuem vs us mongers heading to Copa buying drinks, eating at restaurants, renting apts and hotels. I guess it was good while it lasted. At least we got the Terma's
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I don't even use Help and won't miss it. I think the point about it harming girls is an important one, but not that any authorities would care. The 'innovative' police tactics is a howler. But I wish the Guardian wouldn't blow our cover to all those English intellectuals . . . :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup."[/QUOTE]28th is BS isn't it for closing? I thought it was Fall or something..Can anyone on the ground there confirm?
Man I arrive the 29th :(
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[QUOTE=Madd Love][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure[/url]
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
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Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. [/QUOTE]
Your guests were out of line, and they should have had the patience to wander up to the 3rd floor where at least they might have kicked themselves for their unfortunate remarks.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?[/QUOTE]
For some reason I think so, but he wasn't banned. ET surmised that once this academic was relegated to his own thread and no longer the center of attention he left of his own will.
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Not all blacks are the same, all whites aren't considerate
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. He was yelling outside about how he "DID NOT COME A THOUSAND MILES TO SEE THIS." Ironically, this sounds just like the advice I gave newbies the other day.
New advice: stay your lame asses in Copa where you belong. These cats have never even heard of Luomo or Copa and they thought they were ready for BA85! Trust me newbies, stay in Copa. These newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
Anyway, I got drunk today and was, perhaps, not at the top of my game. I tried a girl I have seen before on floor one (I will get her name tomorrow). I paid R20 to the desk, then she begged 40R from me for a good BBBJ. Well, she sucked for 3 minutes tops then put the condom on. ***** (*sorry ADMIN).
Total today was R70. The blacks bought my beers, so that was good. Actually only one of them bought beers the others hung outside claiming they want to go to 4x4. Go ahead you suckers, pay 300R or whatever. Even when I get screwed over I still leave with hundreds of reals (plural incorrect) in my pockets. That's right, it's me!
TJ[/QUOTE]Wow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.[/QUOTE]
You should put things in perspective.
Influx of sex-tourism money counts for next to nothing in Brasilian touristic projects. Brasilian authorities have recently made of tourism one of their top-ten priorities by launching the second phase of the "Aquarela Plan" (O Plano Aquarela, a marketing plan to increase the flow of tourists to Brasil), which began in 2005, the goal being to double inbound tourism before 2015 and to place Brasil, now 35th, in the top-twenty world's top tourism destinations. An ambitious plan but without a doubt doable. FYI, according to the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO), about 6.5 million tourists have visited Brasil in 2007, which is an average of 18 000 arrivals per day, a number that given the fantastic touristic potential and the Aquarela Plan should logically grow in the post-crisis years. A huge source of income.
Anyhow it's not abberant to state that 90% of those 13 millions tourists expected each year will visit Copacabana, which is THE vitrine of Brasil (and no one in his right mind can really think that brasilian authorities want to see hoes, trannies, woremongers, faveladas, pimps, thieves, mobsters and other drug dealers spoil this vitrine BTW, so expect a deep cleaning of the whole area).
Now how many of them will visit the museum ? I'd bet on 10/15 %. Plus the national tourists (some 2.5 millions to Rio each year). Plus the Carioca locals (school visits, ect). Plus the Fluminenses wekenders. That makes a lot of people. And at something like 20 RS the entrance ticket, a lot of money.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]Wow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.[/QUOTE]
If you see my corresponding posts I refer to the newbies I took as gringos, period. That was the problem, they acted like disrespectful gringos! I did mention their race as a description, at first, so they and others would know who I am talking about, without mentioning names.
They were disrespectful and I used that post primarily as a means to inform them. Notice, I ended with "yeah, it's me."
No I am not writing off a race, but if I had not added American blacks, I doubt they would have known it was them because they obviously had no clue what they did was not 100% kosher. Most gringos in Rio are not black, so to just mention disrespectful gringo behavior might not have done the trick. I COULD have mentioned some other things they did to make sure they knew it was them, but then, trust me, it would have really looked bad. So instead I mentioned the central issue and labeled them black AMERICANS (which sizes the number down considerably). After that post I referred to them as GRINGOS, which you obviously missed!
Also, I never said I would have nothing to do with black Americans.
P.S. Since you are so politically correct, I think we need to discuss your handle, "Iceberg Slim." You see Iceberg Slim is a well known convicted felon who abused women. Slim wrote a book detaling how he beat women ruthlessly, using such intstruments as wire coat hangers! So perhaps you need to critique what your handle says rather try to find racism where there is none!
TJ
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Iceberg Slim
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Yeah, I screwed up big time! Just like you and lots of others on this forum I have developed a good reputation. Now, these gringos have hurt me! As you, Mr. E, probably know, girls take notice of gringos who act as if they are too good to be in Brazil.
I broke with those guys and hung out and will hit the spot everyday this week to make up for that mistake. But man, there was one girl who walked off from me!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Slim,
Just in case you did not notice, I used American blacks and gringos interchangeably. So your post is a bit off base, though well-intentioned. You critique one of my posts with a fine-tooth comb then ignore the very next one where I call them gringos. If you had noticed this, then you would have seen your post was irrelevant.
Actuallly, it is gramatically correct to mantain the same subject. That is the only reason why I, late in the post,referred to "one other blacks," or whatever and not "the guys." Plus, "the guys" makes them sound like buddies!
Thanks for your response but it seems you are being critical for no reason. You yourself miss my use of American black and gringo interchangeably, yet get picky over smaller issues.
Most regulars on here know that I am racially sensitive. Again, I mentioned their race initially to ensure they knew who they were.
And, by the way, YOU start bringing up WHITE PEOPLE, not me. Whether you know it or not YOU need to take that out of your post because that is racially insensitive. I mentioned blacks for a reason. But you bring up WHITES when nobody said anything about them. Obviously YOU have some racial baggage and trust me, it is silly to try to apply it to me.
And just so YOU know it, though most already do, I AM NOT WHITE!
P.S. I just noticed from reading my post, as quoted by another person prior to your diatribe, that I SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS SOME of them were a-holes. So, again, you are splitting hairs here and proving you have some issues not me. If a person says some blacks in a group of blacks are a-holes, does he really need YOU to provide multicultural training? Dude you are way off base, though I think you meant well.
TJ
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status
After I got back from centro last night, I hit the retail place where I got the number of a very cute girl who has done quite a bit of American porn.
Then I sat down, typed a trip report here and received a call from the private in-call (R50 all night) I had two days ago. She wanted to come over and spend the night.
I said yes, then jumped in the shower. Suddenly she was at the door. I mean she must have been right outside. I was stilll in the shower, had the ISG forum still up on the computer, and the other girl's number right on the table.
I cleared all of this up and let her in. But with all of this rushing and the stress caused by the GRINGOS I took to centro earlier, I got sick.
She came in and began cooking food ,which made things worse.
My head and stomach hurt. Here I was with an all nighter for R50 and all I could do was throw up, which I did. Man I got sick all over the place.
She was nice and brought me pillows and water and offered to buy me some green tea. I just told her to leave and come back tomorrow.
I feel better today and will hit centro early, come back to put my bid in with the cute porno girl, and then drinks at Mabs.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?[/QUOTE]
Thats him.
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[QUOTE=Steve 99]28th is BS isn't it for closing? I thought it was Fall or something..Can anyone on the ground there confirm?
Man I arrive the 29th :([/QUOTE]
I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??
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Dag nabbit...
Geetings Fellow Mongerers,
That sucks.
I wonder if anyone has any predictions on how scene dynamic will change. From what I hear "Help" is a place that Mongerers can have there pick of GDP and Non-pro's. My Visa is good for 5yrs, I'd like to revist the land of bunda's one more time before I die.
[QUOTE=Madd Love][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure[/url]
Rio nightclub closure leaves prostitutes Helpless
For decades it has been one of Rio de Janeiro's most notorious nightspots, a neon-lit colossus at the heart of Copacabana beach renowned as a meeting point for wealthy, sunburned tourists and scantily clad prostitutes.
After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup.
Rio's governor, Sergio Cabral, has unveiled a R$65m (£21m) plan to bulldoze the nightclub and replace it with a music-themed museum designed by the US architecture firm Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the same company that gave a facelift to New York's Lincoln Centre.
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city, which has also introduced pioneering policing initiatives in several slums including the City of God favela made famous by Fernando Meirelles's film.
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
He said: "What will happen is that many of the women who are currently 'freelancers' and use Help will be pushed to accept, to one degree or another, pimps as they will have to work the old traditional venues or the infinitely more dangerous street scene. This, of course, puts them and tourists more at risk for crime and violence."[/QUOTE]
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Yes they are all the same, and they have tails too( Rolling my eye and sucking my teeth) right...? When we Americans leave the country (US) we are all one color GREEN!
[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]Wow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.[/QUOTE]
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Centro casas were dead this morning then they picked up. I got to BA 85 around noon and almost had to bang one of the counter women. I did get a good grab of the ass of one of them (NO NOT THE OLDER LATER ON FLOOR 1!).
I did three garotas today. There is a tight, little skinny girl on floor 1 named Patricia. That stuff is snugg and tight. Be sure to bring at least 2 condoms because you are going to break one getting into that stuff. By the way she acted I think she is used to that happening.
Nice face, she wears BRACES!
I also did a bigger girl on floor 1. This one is very aggresive and has a tatoo of a man or boy on her arm. The name begins with a D. AVOID HER. I will get her name tomorrow. She got me on the cabin and every time I began stroking she would stop me and ask me to do an hour long session. Then when I made it clear I was not for that she started talking some crap about how she needed money because she cannot work tomorrow. Why, I asked. She then proceeded to show me a where she had had a tooth pulled and said she had an appointment I know it is BS, especially given she showed me an already pulled tooth!
Although I had paid 20 minutes (R20) I told her to F-off and started getting dressed. She begged me not to leave and then whispered that I better not talk bad about her to the other girls. I told her to f-off and gave her a middle finger as I walked out. Apparently Brazilians understand the middle finger based on their reactions.
later I sessioned with Suzy, a dark black girl on floor 3. She always stands outside floor 3. Nice round butt, good wet snatch. I wiould do her again. However, once I was done she asked for a tip, I ignored her. Just do the same. She spoke Porto and then said "money, please," in English. Just ignore her. She walked out and sat down. Now that I think about it the desk woman probably thought I bought 15 minutes, not 20 (R20) and gave Suzy R5 in change that she kept.
I just sent a text to my little porn queen...
TJ
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]Your guests were out of line, and they should have had the patience to wander up to the 3rd floor where at least they might have kicked themselves for their unfortunate remarks.[/QUOTE]
They are once a year guys so it will be awhile before they go back, I am sure. But one day they will and they will kick themselves for missing out on this cheap, relatively quality stuff in some centro casas.
In my report, I also could have mentioned the shoving match they got into with some young Brazilian guys and some women on the metro. I take the metro all the time with no incidents. This was their first times and they basically get into a fight!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??[/QUOTE]
I'm on an email chain right now, bunch of guys going back and forth about Help closing. Guys who know Rio, guys who have lived in Rio for many years and have done business in Brazil.
One guy today says Help is a done deal and they have to vacate the premises by Oct 1 and he knows where they are relocating to in Copa.
Unfortunately this is all he says, I asked him where in Copa, is it the Bingo Arpoador? Lets see if he responds or not.
The current layout with the restaurant out front and the club inside was a perfect combination of things, some liked to hang outside and others inside, I like to do both. Some nights I would arrive at Terraco Atlantico at 11 pm or midnight, have a light dinner, some chopps, talk to some of the girls walking around and then meet some inside when I was finished with my dinner. It was a perfect setup.
Lets hope if there is a replacement locatiion the setup is just as good.
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??[/QUOTE]The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]For some reason I think so, but he wasn't banned. ET surmised that once this academic was relegated to his own thread and no longer the center of attention he left of his own will.[/QUOTE]See Macunaima in Brazil (not Macuminca).
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[QUOTE=Steve 99]The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)[/QUOTE]I am going to fly out to Rio in the next week. Just incase help does close. Probably stay the month off September. 3rd trip in 4 months. Just want to be there when help closes. I think most girls will head to balconey when it closes.
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[QUOTE=Steve 99]The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)[/QUOTE]I would imagine the entire area will be a major construction site (demolition, dust, noise, etc.) and businesses in the immediate area like TA will be hurt.
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[QUOTE=Steve 99]The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)[/QUOTE]
If Help closes so does Terraco Atlantico, the whole place is going, it's all part of the same problem. Just take a look at the artists rendition, TA is gone, wiped out, doesn't exist anymore, bye bye.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I arrived at BA 85 about 12:30. I usually deal with thick girls but I had made my mind up that I would find a spinner today. As soon as I got up to the first floor I saw Patricia in the corner. She has a star tattoo with the letters KJ on her left shoulder and braces in her mouth. From the start I knew she was the one I would be taking...After 2 minutes of quatro I took a look at her gaping pussy. I was in hog heaven.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I did three garotas today. There is a tight, little skinny girl on floor 1 named Patricia. That stuff is snugg and tight. Be sure to bring at least 2 condoms because you are going to break one getting into that stuff. By the way she acted I think she is used to that happening.
Nice face, she wears BRACES![/QUOTE]
Hey man. Stop fucking my girl!
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]P.S. Since you are so politically correct, I think we need to discuss your handle, "Iceberg Slim." You see Iceberg Slim is a well known convicted felon who abused women. Slim wrote a book detaling how he beat women ruthlessly, using such intstruments as wire coat hangers! So perhaps you need to critique what your handle says rather try to find racism where there is none![/QUOTE]
That is a trip. In my eighth grade Advanced English class I did a report and presentation on his book Trick Baby. Just think of a 13 year old black kid in a room full of white kids doing a presentation on pimps, hos, and tricks. I bet that was the last time that teacher let students choose their own books.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Hey man. Stop fucking my girl![/QUOTE]
Ah, man. I thought she looked and sounded familiar.
My bad. Then again, better me than somebody else!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]That is a trip. In my eighth grade Advanced English class I did a report and presentation on his book Trick Baby. Just think of a 13 year old black kid in a room full of white kids doing a presentation on pimps, hos, and tricks. I bet that was the last time that teacher let students choose their own books.[/QUOTE]
No you DIDN'T!
I know you scared those folks!
TJ
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centro report
Went to centro bright and early today. I was there by 12:30. There was a guy working the desk on the 4th floor so no ass grabs for me (the desk madam was running late I would find out).
The black girl with curly hair was there. I do not know her name. She always wears a short skirt (with no panties). Actually, it is not even a skirt but something many women wear above a thong or to the beach or to bed on Valentines!
She bent over and showed me her butt (hole)! I said 15 minutes and she said let's go. I gave the desk guy R15 and we (the the girl and I) went into the back. She bent over and stuck my member between her butt crack and gave me a good 5 mintute grind. A hornier man might have achieved an orgasm.
She then slapped a condom on me and gave a hard BJ followed by doggie style sex. She was not too loose, but not too tight. A good fit.
I came in about 7 minutes.
She constantly has business and looks like a black college girl. Actually, I have seen her and another girl up there show up with their books. They are often late.
I sat down and had a beer. A white gringo wearing cowboy boots came in with another guy. They ledt and went to the 5th floor.
After the beer I went to floor 1 where they always have lots of girls. Patricia, the skinny girl from yesterday, waved at me. They know I am too cool for that kissing in public crap Brazilians do!
I had to wait around 30 minutes to get ready for more sex and then took Patricia back (R15). She was just as tight as yesterday, though I did not break the condom (most likely because I was more aware of the possibilty). It took around 20 minutes to get an orgasm but well worth it. She makes sure you get your money's worth!
Outside the cabin I hear the big girl with the tatoo on her arm (it is a tatoo of a name starting with a D) yelling about "5 reals" A guy was trying to get away from her (as I had yesterday). He got passed her by circling arounf Patricia and then me. The big girl grabbed my shoulders and yelled some crap about 5 reals. I looked at her as if she were crazy, which she is. patricia laughed, but I did not. This woman is crazy! Avoid her. It is obvious that she pulls scams on all her customers.
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final observations
I have gotten quite a few pm's about BA 85 and centro:
1. I like the way the first floor madam rings the bell to get the girls up and dancing when they get lazy.
2. Centro casas are nice because you do meet people there who do not want you for your money. The guy who sells the gum outside the front of BA85 always speaks to me. He even came up and spoke when I saw him on the metro yesterday.
3. BA 85 is worth the money. No cover charge. You can hang out and drink soda or beer. Sex sessions begin at R15 for 15 mintutes. If you do not have fun, you are not out much money at all. In Copa you can blow R200-300 on the wrong woman easily. The girls are not all model quality, some are, however. You have all types.
4. The music in BA85 is the latest of carioca funk. On Saturdays they really play the new stuff on floor 1 (the blond from floor 3 works the desk on floor 1 on saturdays).
5. You can check in for your return flight by computer for most airlines a day in advance. I would do so just to be on the safe side. Also, I have gotten the first class upgrade when I checked in early but never when I wait to get to the airport.
TJ
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Bravo...
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I have gotten quite a few pm's about BA 85 and centro:
TJ[/QUOTE]Rarely have I seen one guy prompt so many posts as you have on this trip TJFan. Well done - most entertaining. I hope you had as much fun "playing" as I did reading about it. Thanks for the effort of diligently posting just about every day! What a trooper.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]If Help closes so does Terraco Atlantico, the whole place is going, it's all part of the same problem. Just take a look at the artists rendition, TA is gone, wiped out, doesn't exist anymore, bye bye.[/QUOTE]Artist rendering means nothing. TA is a seperately run business from Help. But construction and closer policing can radically change the afternoon business there for sure.
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I have also read that Help is relocating to the Bingo place (wherever that is) - It's on Trip Adviser. What a shame, I thought I would make it before it closes, but if it is open late Oct it would be a miracle - I'm going to church every Sunday till then.... LOL !
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Metro Card Tip
Last few days going back and forth to Centro. I always buy a card and put the max R12 on it since I am afraid of losing the Metro Card with alot of trips on it.
Whatever you do, if you plan on leaving Centro around 5pm or 6 pm, make sure you have enough on your card for your trip back. The lines are into the next zip code during rush hour at the teller window if you need to refill. Happened to me twice already.
Also, after a few days of using the same Metro Card, get yourself a new fresh card when done. The scanner doesnt read it well for some reason after a few days.
Geo
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Metro
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Last few days going back and forth to Centro. I always buy a card and put the max R12 on it since I am afraid of losing the Metro Card with alot of trips on it.
Whatever you do, if you plan on leaving Centro around 5pm or 6 pm, make sure you have enough on your card for your trip back. The lines are into the next zip code during rush hour at the teller window if you need to refill. Happened to me twice already.
Also, after a few days of using the same Metro Card, get yourself a new fresh card when done. The scanner doesnt read it well for some reason after a few days.
Geo[/QUOTE]
Useful stuff - working the system out at short notice can be a bummer :(. If you've not been for a few years, it's all changed.
Another thing is the single tickets. You can't just buy a wad for when you need them and use them like the old multiticket. They run out after I think it is 3 days. After that you can only trade them in.
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31th anniversary
On 25 august at Solarium, I guess a good reason to go there :)
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Balcony Bar
Been there twice this week. After speaking to alot of the girls, it appears that certain girls there are starting to mark their territory to set themselves up to when Help closes. I confirmed this with 6 girls already. There seems to be alot of catfighting these days for territory at places. Some of the same girls sit on the same ledge of Balcony night after night. This will defintely replace Help in due time, I can see it coming. Clientel in here appears to be very old as well. I see very few young guys walking in and out these nights. Alot of elderly men strolling in looking for a hottie for the night.
Geo
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Restaurants
Let's not forget Alcazar. It was once a GDP pick up place many years ago. It's much like Mab's and Meia Pattaca.
Alcazar: Av Atlântica, 3530, Copacabana
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Is Copa Ready for me
I feel good. Just arrived in the APT. In copa footsteps from the beach. Its cold and windy outside. Thank goodness it stopped raining but, I don't give a S*$T because my wingman and I got a BAD ass Penthouse footsteps from the beach for cheap. About to jump in the shower and hit a Terma.
Have been speaking a litte spanish I have been understood but, understanding the Porto is a no go. More later.
Who wants to get a drink?
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fun time had by all
[QUOTE=Jake993]Rarely have I seen one guy prompt so many posts as you have on this trip TJFan. Well done - most entertaining. I hope you had as much fun "playing" as I did reading about it. Thanks for the effort of diligently posting just about every day! What a trooper.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, and yes I did have fun, both with the girls and posting reports on the forum.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Artist rendering means nothing. TA is a seperately run business from Help. But construction and closer policing can radically change the afternoon business there for sure.[/QUOTE]
Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.
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Rio Branco 185
2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
Geo
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
Geo[/QUOTE]Please confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.
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Aporador Bingo....Nao
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.[/QUOTE]When news came out that the State wanted to appropriate Help, It was rumored that Help's owners would open a club in the Aporador Bingo building. The State took steps and secured that building, so it's not available.
In one of the those news reports, (don't recall which one at the moment,) Help's ownership stated they would NOT be opening another Club. Perhaps a ruse to keep the State off their backs.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.[/QUOTE]I never heard or read anything about surrounding businesses being shut down too. But, certainly construction will make a noisy mess of that area for the next several years.
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Ouvidor
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Please confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.[/QUOTE]
Rua do Ouvidor 130:
I like going to #707. Just watch which elevator you are taking and that it stops on the 7 floor (andar).
There is a tall mulata in there I session with. Absolutly beautiful. All the girls in there are very friendly.
I remember the other day and asking for a Duplas. I was with Cho. They quoted me 40R fo the hour, however you can only pop one time. This is something to do when you are out of gas and stop here later. It will take you a while to pop...so you will get your money worth.
Geo
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Please confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.[/QUOTE]
Rua do Ouvidor, sala 707.
It was open in March. I have no ideia if it has closed by now.
R$ 20 for a session with one pop and unlimited time.
I recommend Kelly.
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TJ, thanks for the response
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Slim,
Just in case you did not notice, I used American blacks and gringos interchangeably. So your post is a bit off base, though well-intentioned. You critique one of my posts with a fine-tooth comb then ignore the very next one where I call them gringos. If you had noticed this, then you would have seen your post was irrelevant.
Actuallly, it is gramatically correct to mantain the same subject. That is the only reason why I, late in the post,referred to "one other blacks," or whatever and not "the guys." Plus, "the guys" makes them sound like buddies!
Thanks for your response but it seems you are being critical for no reason. You yourself miss my use of American black and gringo interchangeably, yet get picky over smaller issues.
Most regulars on here know that I am racially sensitive. Again, I mentioned their race initially to ensure they knew who they were.
And, by the way, YOU start bringing up WHITE PEOPLE, not me. Whether you know it or not YOU need to take that out of your post because that is racially insensitive. I mentioned blacks for a reason. But you bring up WHITES when nobody said anything about them. Obviously YOU have some racial baggage and trust me, it is silly to try to apply it to me.
And just so YOU know it, though most already do, I AM NOT WHITE!
P.S. I just noticed from reading my post, as quoted by another person prior to your diatribe, that I SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS SOME of them were a-holes. So, again, you are splitting hairs here and proving you have some issues not me. If a person says some blacks in a group of blacks are a-holes, does he really need YOU to provide multicultural training? Dude you are way off base, though I think you meant well.
TJ[/QUOTE]Tijuana,
I didn't see your use of blacks, newbies and gringos as interchangeable. This is a point I think will be lost on some of the newer forum users. Only history on the board corrects that.
I didn't mean the post as a personal attack on you and I think you see that.
Just thought the race description was not necessary, mainly because of how I read the forum and process information for use. When I'm in Rio, I'm usually running around so I don't read the forum. So I mainly read the forum when not in Rio and increasingly more as I near a trip. I read posts from the approach of lessons learned, not for information I will apply in the moment. So from my perspective I was looking at the larger lesson. If you read the forum for immediate application, then a racial ID would help those who wanted to avoid that particular group of guys. Again, I wasn't reading it that way.
Yes, I'm familiar with the life of Robert Beck, aka Iceberg Slim. He chronicled his life in the streets, the culture of the street, not in an attempt glorify or justify what he did. I happen to find the stories informative on how that culture exists and continues to exist. Lest you think I condone, the brutality of pimping, I don't.
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[quote=hughdad]i never heard or read anything about surrounding businesses being shut down too. but, certainly construction will make a noisy mess of that area for the next several years.[/quote]
ok then read the attached article, i'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
[quote]besides help, there are two restaurants doing business in the same location to be expropriated: terraço atlântico and sobre as ondas (over the waves).[/quote]
[url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__h8efddqt3umgan9nbgpfotx6wmm=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=sumrlghxoiswjm:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3fq%3dhelp%2bdiscoteca%26gbv%3d2%26ndsp%3d18%26hl%3den%26sa%3dn%26start%3d90[/url]
has anybody ever been to sobre as ondas when it was actually open? i mean now it is part of help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. i went one night with a girl i met from help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. they had live music playing all of the old brazilian songs, this girl i was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in help to make ends meet.
but anyway it was an interesting place because what i had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in help. i guess i was out of place there.
expropriation refers to confirep001ion of private property with the stated purpose of establishing social equality.
it is similar to what we call here in the us eminent domain.
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Yes!!!
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Ok then read the attached article, I'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
[url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__H8EFdDQT3Umgan9nbGpfOtX6wmM=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=suMrlghxoIswjM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhelp%2Bdiscoteca%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D90[/url]
Has anybody ever been to Sobre as Ondas when it was actually open? I mean now it is part of Help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. I went one night with a girl I met from Help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. They had live music playing all of the old Brazilian songs, this girl I was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in Help to make ends meet.
But anyway it was an interesting place because what I had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in Help. I guess I was out of place there.[/QUOTE]You bet - it was my first night in Rio back in 1992. Well, first weekend to tell the truth. I had just moved into an apartment in Alto Leblon and my neighbors invited me out for the evening. It started with an Elba concert at Cancao, dinner somewhere in Botafogo till 2:00 AM and then dancing at Sobre as Ondas until 5:00 AM. Went home with a little blond beauty (freebie). Thought I died and went to heaven. Took me almost a YEAR to figure out that HELP even existed as it does today. I thought it was just a bopper club for teen type dancing (Doh!!!!) Sobre as Ondas had a great live band that played an amazing range of music form Top 40 to Samaba and Salsa. The place was fabulous. You could tell that about 30% of the girls there were working but they weren't the piranhas that you have today. They were immaculately dressed and sat drinking or smoking waiting to be asked to dance. Not at all trashy. Looking at them you would have thought they were just local socialites coming for a drink. It was a very sophisticated crowd (mostly well-to-do locals) and gentlemen ha to wear a jacket. Very classy atmosphere. It was the closest I ever got to what I thought was the "old Rio" that was portrayed in the movies. Management tried very hard to keep that look and feel and maintain a very classy and genteel environment. Went back a few more times during the two years I lived there. Seems like a million years ago now.......
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Date of closing
Does anyone actually have a date for when HELPs last night will be?
I will be in Rio in December, but sadly I think this will be too late
Andy
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[quote=sangue bon]ok then read the attached article, i'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
[url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__h8efddqt3umgan9nbgpfotx6wmm=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=sumrlghxoiswjm:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3fq%3dhelp%2bdiscoteca%26gbv%3d2%26ndsp%3d18%26hl%3den%26sa%3dn%26start%3d90[/url]
has anybody ever been to sobre as ondas when it was actually open? i mean now it is part of help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. i went one night with a girl i met from help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. they had live music playing all of the old brazilian songs, this girl i was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in help to make ends meet.
but anyway it was an interesting place because what i had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in help. i guess i was out of place there.
expropriation refers to confirep001ion of private property with the stated purpose of establishing social equality.
it is similar to what we call here in the us eminent domain.[/quote]
sang, thanks for the link. will be interesting to see how all this shifts the scene in rio. i never used help or frequented ta to meet ladies. after reading much great advice here, i viewed them as tourist traps with inflated pricing. i think outgoing guys and entrepreunial ladies will do fine hooking up post-help. and as others have suggested here - help probably inflated prices as all the ladies were together and discussed "pricing".
the old clubs in rio sounded like they were classy and a great deal of fun. i am studying porto like crazy now for my upcoming trips. i am putting in the time and i believe this will open a whole new world for me there.
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Meeting
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]I feel good. Just arrived in the APT. In copa footsteps from the beach. Its cold and windy outside. Thank goodness it stopped raining but, I don't give a S*$T because my wingman and I got a BAD ass Penthouse footsteps from the beach for cheap. About to jump in the shower and hit a Terma.
Have been speaking a litte spanish I have been understood but, understanding the Porto is a no go. More later.
Who wants to get a drink?[/QUOTE]
Hey Big guy,
Was nice meeting you and your wing man at 4X4 on Friday night. Sorry couldn't say good bye before you left, that girl I left with worked me out hard. She was a real monster.
Good to see you and I hope our paths cross again in Brazil or the DR.
Cheers
A158
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Rio Branco 185, 2114
[QUOTE=Geofagus]2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
Geo[/QUOTE]
Hey Geofagus,
This place was my first ever session at Rio. Went there with Rodeo9112 and hit an awesome girl for a 40 minute session. It was a good warm up for the night events at 4X4 later that night
Cheers
A158
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Ill tell the other 5000 members of the Black MBA Association that also as well![/QUOTE]
You only have to tell the other 4999 because I just read it for myself!
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Bisexual girl needed
I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Wow!
Based on what you just typed I should throw my MBA and CPA in the trash fire all 10 white people I just hired and buy some gold chains and become a pimp. Resign my post as member of the three bank boards im on and just smoke crack? Ill tell the other 5000 members of the Black MBA Association that also as well!
Wow O Wow in 2009 we get this shit![/QUOTE]
LOL!!!!! Some of these guys wish it was still like 1909. Oh well gotta go hit my pipe and check on my ho's. LOL.
These guys are a joke.
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Quick Report
Just got back from Rio. Last Weds, hit LM. It was already a beef-fest at 1630. Crowd of Italians. Pulled Shayla, the tall one. She was a good performer with an attitude to match.
BTW, while enroute to GIG, my driver stated that it was the final week for Help. I could not confirm this. JFYI, I have used him as a driver for the past 7 years.
Will write more at later time. Gotta work amanha. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Forest]I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest[/QUOTE]
You don't need to search long. Most of the girls do this thing. Heck, many of them are into girls in their spare time, and they will like getting frisky with your GF more than with you. Just ask, and more likely than not the answer will be an enthusiastic yes.
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[QUOTE=Amerioca]Just got back from Rio. Last Weds, hit LM. [/QUOTE]OK you got me on that abbreviation - is LM Luomo?
I sure hope the Italians are gone by the 29th.
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Cry for HELP
no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)
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Nice bi girl wanted
[QUOTE=Euro100]You don't need to search long. Most of the girls do this thing. Heck, many of them are into girls in their spare time, and they will like getting frisky with your GF more than with you. Just ask, and more likely than not the answer will be an enthusiastic yes.[/QUOTE]
Of course, its no hard to find a GDP here who will go down on my girlfriend. I have been coming to Brazil 10+ times a year since 2002, and I know the scene well.
However, hunting through HELP or sitting in Maia Pateca is not what I am want to do. I want a recommendation from someone who knows the girl is really bi and is really "nice" (i.e., carinhosa). I have given out plenty of names and telephone numbers to my fellow mongerers to say that I am not asking for too much.
Forest
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[quote=bad boy billy]no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)[/quote]
the latest dept from lax that i can find to arrive on the 16th is co594 via iah it departs at 14:25 so you would need to be in lax by noon. can you get to iah for the 21:15 departure?
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In case you didn't see it in the other thread
[quote=bad boy billy]no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)[/quote]
catch mexicana 905 from lax at 5:55 pm to mexico city (mex) with scheduled arrival at 11:35 pm.
then catch mexicana flight 375 from mexico city to caracas (ccs) at 01:05 am on sept 16th arriving at 6:30 am
then catch tam flight 8051 from caracas (ccs) at 10:20 am to sao paulo which continues on to rio de janeiro arriving at 7:20 pm.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Catch Mexicana 905 from LAX at 5:55 PM to Mexico City (MEX) with scheduled arrival at 11:35 PM.
Then catch Mexicana flight 375 from Mexico City to Caracas (CCS) at 01:05 AM on Sept 16th arriving at 6:30 AM
Then catch TAM flight 8051 from Caracas (CCS) at 10:20 AM to Sao Paulo which continues on to Rio de Janeiro arriving at 7:20 PM.[/QUOTE]
Yes - you can do it Billy.
I went on expedia and broke it into two flights.
LAX to Caracas (specify Mexicana Airlines under expanded options)
It will cost you $1,050 and arrives at 6:30 AM.
The second flight is from Caracas to Rio on TAM 8051 for $455 and does not leave Caracas until 10:20 AM so you have plenty of time to re-check in. A visa is not required for US citizens carrying a valid passport.
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LAX-GIG / Get Real here
[quote=bad boy billy]no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)[/quote]
bad boy billy
unless money is not an issue and you can take all these funky connections, you are pretty much f.u.c.k.e.d. sorry but this is life. why not take it easy and wait in la and leave on the 16th aa 1520 lax to mia at 12:10 pm and aa 905 mia gig leaving at 11:10 pm arriving gig at 8:50 am.
yes you are arriving 1/2 a day later, but is one smooth shot, one airline, and decent planes. as far as service goes, if you are in business or first class you have it made, otherwise, you are f.u.c.k.e.d again ...sorry but this is us airlines for you.
cheers
a158
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[QUOTE=A158]Unless money is not an issue and you can take all these funky connections, you are pretty much f.u.c.k.e.d. Sorry but this is life. Why not take it easy and wait in LA and leave on the 16th AA 1520 LAX to MIA at 12:10 PM and AA 905 MIA GIG leaving at 11:10 PM arriving GIG at 8:50 AM.
Yes you are arriving 1/2 a day later, but is one smooth shot, one airline, and decent planes. As far as service goes, if you are in Business or first class you have it made, otherwise, you are f.u.c.k.e.d again ...sorry but this is US airlines for you.[/QUOTE]Yeah it is kinda difficult - am doing the Melbourne - LAX / LAX - MEL legs on miles - so not so much flexibility.
Yes the overnight in LA has been suggested - was just trying to avoid that.
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[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Yeah it is kinda difficult - am doing the Melbourne - LAX / LAX - MEL legs on miles - so not so much flexibility.
Yes the overnight in LA has been suggested - was just trying to avoid that.[/QUOTE]
You may fly free to LA but for the added round trip cost of LA to Rio through all the funky connections, you would be better off saving your miles and paying for direct flights from Sydney to Rio.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]You may fly free to LA but for the added round trip cost of LA to Rio through all the funky connections, you would be better off saving your miles and paying for direct flights from Sydney to Rio.[/QUOTE]
Have to route throgh LAX as I have a trade show in Las Vegas to attend on way home.
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[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Have to route throgh LAX as I have a trade show in Las Vegas to attend on way home.[/QUOTE]Is this a test? You keep adding new dimensions.
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Hmm. Sounds like this forum is no more the virtual bar of good tricks it used to be. Too bad.
Yes, it may suck to enter MC or LM and find a gang of 10+ noisy, shouty, heavy US citizens, acting as invaders and treating the girls as cattle. One of the ladies, not the ugliest nor the worst lay in town, told me last week: 'these americans believe they are in rodeo and we are the horses- I don't want to go with them anymore'. Take care, folks, you may soon be blacklisted at the entrance!
A word about ladies: at MC, Sarah will be perfect for those who want a solid if not exactly subtle meçtiza shouting the good old 'caralho, fode filho de puto, fode o meu cul, etc.', completa, deep throat. Yvonnne (? ), 27, is good and completely open minded, but currently doesn't suck without due to recent teeth works she says. Good anyway.
There is also at MC a tall, young and gorgeous brunette, very pale with a large mouth. She is always close to full nudity. Looking shy. I was tempted but something told me she may be disapointing. If some of you knows more, please tell.
My best encouter by far at MC has been a blond lady in her early 30ies. Due to the current violence of this thread, I prefer not to disclose her name!
Cheers
GB
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[QUOTE=Andy1974]Does anyone actually have a date for when HELPs last night will be?
I will be in Rio in December, but sadly I think this will be too late
Andy[/QUOTE]Andy, your guess is as probably good as anybody's. Below a poster reports a taxi driver told him this is the last week. Last week I got an email from a guy who told me Oct 1 for sure because it's a done deal but they have another location to go to.
This latest round of Help closing started in February 2008, when the articles appeared in O Globo about the Governor of Rio Expropriating Help to put a musuem there. It sounded serious then as it does now and if you check this forumn or any other forumn Help was doomed in no time, that was 18 months ago and it's still open.
So we could be here in another 18 months from now(wishful thinking) asking the same question or we can be asking where did the girls end up.
Either way you will still find many girls at night in Copa near Help if it closes, they will just be spread out a little bit more.
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Montecarlo currently offers an excellent rate for euros at 1€ = 2,80 R$; didn't find better anywhere in town.
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Thanks bro. Yeah we had a great time. I know that 4x4 is a great sight to see in Rio. I'm starting to get use to seeing sexy A*S woman all over the place. I'm going to have to relocate my job to the bar at 4x4. See you next time.
[QUOTE=A158]Hey Big guy,
Was nice meeting you and your wing man at 4X4 on Friday night. Sorry couldn't say good bye before you left, that girl I left with worked me out hard. She was a real monster.
Good to see you and I hope our paths cross again in Brazil or the DR.
Cheers
A158[/QUOTE]
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Hey Forest,
I hope I'm not too late. Not a paying member can't PM you but, had a session with beautiful morena with the pefect body today about 2pm. Una chica fue completo. She did it all. Bad teeth though, but sexy nonetheless. She says she's bi and likes to fuck anybody and everybody. I'm sure she'll like your lady. Karla models her name is Adrian Porta. 1 monger to the other buen probecho.
[QUOTE=Forest]I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest[/QUOTE]
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Anyway back to the story folks...
Greetings fellow Mongeres,
Anyway, been in Rio hit a few days hit lots of spots met some cool PEOPLE. YES I said PEOPLE(human beings)! I like the place.
The girls are Fu*'k'n sexy sex machines. Even the grandma's ya'll...lol... I love it...ja ja ja.
My wingman(WM) and I called Karla Model's today and had a good experience. But, I will say photoshop is used heavily on the site, so buyer be-(a)ware. My WM picked one then changed his mind at the last moment and should have stayed with his orginal choice. When they arrived(quoted 30 travel time they were here in 10mins), immediate connect between my girl and I and off we went. short morena with small waist big tits short hair just my type. Both the girls had this teeth thing going didn't like that but the attitudes were awsome so we got past that (I before my wing man but to each his own) after 20 mins of looking thru the book of other "models" for more victims we were all fu*K'n. She was giving CBJ which was ok with me cuz she was so D8mn sexy...30 mins straight with her on top then switch, doggie she likes it had. Then so anal she complained a little but then got so into it i had to hold back from shooting my load...Took a shower together CBJ in the shower with revese doggie on the bench in the show with the water go'n like straight out of a porno. I had to look over my sholder to make sure we weren't being filmed. I like this girl. very into sex and attentive. I will recommend her to those that like her type.
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Tijuana,
In my opinion, Africa-American men have ghettoed up Help in the last 5 to 7 years.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Andy, your guess is as probably good as anybody's. Below a poster reports a taxi driver told him this is the last week. Last week I got an email from a guy who told me Oct 1 for sure because it's a done deal but they have another location to go to.
This latest round of Help closing started in February 2008, when the articles appeared in O Globo about the Governor of Rio Expropriating Help to put a musuem there. It sounded serious then as it does now and if you check this forumn or any other forumn Help was doomed in no time, that was 18 months ago and it's still open.
So we could be here in another 18 months from now(wishful thinking) asking the same question or we can be asking where did the girls end up.
Either way you will still find many girls at night in Copa near Help if it closes, they will just be spread out a little bit more.[/QUOTE]
If and when it closes, I will miss HELP for sure. Had mostly good/great times there over the last 3-4 years (regardless of all the griping from the geriatrics mongers about good old days).
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Life after HELP?
[QUOTE=Bizzie]If and when it closes, I will miss HELP for sure. Had mostly good/great times there over the last 3-4 years (regardless of all the griping from the geriatrics mongers about good old days).[/QUOTE] Well said Biz, but you have to admit that we have all been a bit "spoiled" with HELP. I mean, hey - it's been like "Wendy's late night take out window". Regardless of how the night was going, you could always rely on HELP. You could always drop by from 1:30 AM - 3:00 AM and be assured to be able to bring home "a little something". No preparation - no planning - no craft what so ever. You just stumble in, smile a little and "boom" plenty of opportunities. I don't think I am too far out of line to say that it was about as close to "lazy man mongering" as you could get. Sort of like going fishing in one of those farms where you pay your $20 and you keep fishing till you get a bite.
To be sure, if HELP does actually close (and I'm not convinced that it really will) this is going to change the game a bit in Zona Sul unless a replacement pops up. And if one does not, is that REALLY such a bad thing? Sure the convenience will be gone, but there will STILL be GDP in Rio. The local girls will survive and figure out where to set up shop as an alternative. In fact for some of the girls it's probably a blessing because they no longer will have to complete with the part time semi-pro.
Whom I think a HELP closure is really going to hurt is the weekender GDP from outside of Rio. The other day I got an email from a little university student friend of mine who lives in Belo Horizonte. She is frantic because on long weekends and holidays, she could always count on coming to Rio, stay with girlfriends, and setting up shop at HELP for a few nights coming home with a few extra bucks in her jeans. Now, it's not going to be so easy.
Lest we forget that Rio is still one of the great cities in the world where women have a generally open attitude towards sex in general. They are still going to be "available" so it's just a matter of finding out where they are hiding. And of course we have this forum to assist us to sniff out the new spots.
I know that the "old timers" are all just laughing because most of the hardened mongers all have their favorite "fish'in hole" and have not built a reliance on HELP. For them, life won't change much. For the rest of us, it's time to get resourceful, quite being lazy and get in the game. Who knows, it might even be a positive experience. It might even weed out the guys who over-pay (not to open THAT can of worms) and drive the prices up.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Hello Jackson,
You posted the following in the Colombian forum. Could you do something regarding the racist comments in the Rio de Janeiro forum that attacks other ISG members or insults ISG members with posting that have nothing to do with the purpose of the forum, or the interest of paid members. As a Black person, I did pay to read about another IGS members racists comments about other people. If I wanted to read racist content, I could've joined a Klu Klux Klan or a Nazi Hilter monger website instead of ISG.[/QUOTE][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum. Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.
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HELP won't be missed and it shouldn't be missed.
[QUOTE=Jake993]I know that the "old timers" are all just laughing because most of the hardened mongers all have their favorite "fish'in hole" and have not built a reliance on HELP. For them, life won't change much. For the rest of us, it's time to get resourceful, quite being lazy and get in the game. Who knows, it might even be a positive experience. It might even weed out the guys who over-pay (not to open THAT can of worms) and drive the prices up.[/QUOTE]HELP is more of an eyesore than an icon. There are plenty of mongers who visit Rio all the time and never step foot in HELP, nor find it necessary to (eg., myself). Opportunities abound in Rio and when/if HELP closes the scene will simply change a bit, but the women will be available at different venues.
The few times I ever went into HELP all I ever saw were skanky looking chicks. Perhaps I chose bad nights to visit but on the plus side since I was never impressed with the talent there and thus never became dependent on HELP. I head back to Rio next month and whether HELP is open or not it won't affect me in the least. OTOH - maybe there will be more hot chicks available with the Termas, agencies, etc.
"O tempora, O mores!"
DSK
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.[/QUOTE]Hi Jackson,
I quote Poucolouco and curious to see what the others think about it.
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[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I prefer you don't spend your time with pro-active moderation, but instead suggest you assess the new reports after posting and delete the questionable ones. There is a lot of unproductive argumentation going on. I think it is unavoidable but it don't need to be archived.
Walker
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[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Hell No, we don't need that.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.[/QUOTE]
I hate the racist posts as much as anybody and reported two of them recently and they got deleted the same day.
That is all we have to do. Instead of arguing with these guys just report the posts. There is a link to do so in every post.
The Brazil forum is probably the most popular by far, so we are going to get knuckleheads along with the good. On the same note, being so popular means lots of posts and information coming all the time. We do not need to slow down the information.
Lets all be more vigilant about reporting these guys rather than arguing with them and getting yourself in trouble with the ADMIN!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.[/QUOTE]
I agree. No need for full moderation.
We all joined this forum for the purpose of exchanging information which will help us in our mongering. Occasionally there are members posting racist comments. IMO these members are lowlifes and have nothing to contribute to the forum, and they deserves a warning.
I ask myself why these racist members bothers going to Brazil if they dislike dark skinned people?
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, seconded, thirded whatever.
btw. Jackson's running of the board is ace IMO. A lot of boards really get their knickers in a twist over such stuff.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.[/QUOTE]For example, take a look below at the posting at 22:29 yesterday. This is an offensive post that should be flagged for review by the moderators. The poster should be warned to cease and desist. The poster modified the message since yesterday and somehow gets under the wire of any review.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]Tijuana,
In my opinion, Africa-American men have ghettoed up Help in the last 5 to 7 years.[/QUOTE]
Can we get this post deleted as well?
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[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Can we get this post deleted as well?[/QUOTE]
Don't ask us. Click on [COLOR="Blue"]Report this Post to a Moderator [/COLOR] at the bottom of the specific post.
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Moderation - No
This is a forum for us to discuss women and in a broader sense share our experiences about Brazil. A discussion of race has its place, it is just not here. Let's get back to the purpose of this forum and let Jackson get back to more important things than babysitting the Brazil forum.
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Just Say No
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
I'll join the chorus of "no moderation" votes. We have an existing policy to handle these problems, viz. if you don't like an offensive post, report it.
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Mongers-
I agree with the other posters that there is absolutely no place on this forum for any racist comments or complaints. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate the exchange of information for the purpose of finding women for sex. I also travel to Colombia and participate in the Medellin and Cali threads; the Colombian forum is a pain in the ass because it has been on full moderation for over a year. The Brasil forum is more accessible because there is no delay. By the way, I am about to get on a plane Rio as we speak to enjoy the alleged last two nights of Help.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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Why are we deleting the posts instead of just banning the offending person?
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Guys!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!
Lets get back to talking about Brazil and its fine women! I have made 20+ trips to Rio, in fact met various men out here from this website, who I hung out with in Rio and created great friendships!! OF ALL BACKGROUNDS and RACES!!
Please guys, no more racial comments and lets enjoy all of our stories and knowledge on Brazil.
Geo
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I don't see a need for increase moderation. I have found the forum informative, helpful and most of the posters respectful of each other when they disagree. Occasionally, the racist posts flair up, but I think they could be handled through the report abuse feature.
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No!!!
I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]I'll join the chorus of "no moderation" votes. We have an existing policy to handle these problems, viz. if you don't like an offensive post, report it.[/QUOTE]Despite the slow responses i think there should be ZERO TOLERANCE FOR offensive posts so it should be moderated because the atagonist will continue to try to get by with there out of taste opinions
being that it just boils my anger to have deal with the issues of the few
But that said I vote to moderate.
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[QUOTE=Geofagus]Lets get back to talking about Brazil and its fine women! I have made 20+ trips to Rio, in fact met various men out here from this website, who I hung out with in Rio and created great friendships!! OF ALL BACKGROUNDS and RACES!!
Please guys, no more racial comments and lets enjoy all of our stories and knowledge on Brazil.
Geo[/QUOTE]G they will not stop its part of their nature man
I understand that yeah WE go to enjoy the land of the ladies but thats us you would not believe how many people have the same issues as far a race
They will NEVER STOP
You can't change a persons nature.
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I say "No"
I have been to Colombia several times over the last few years and I am very familiar with the Medellin forum as well. Its a pain in the ass to participate because of the delay involved when adding a report.
I saw the writing on the wall, sort of speak, a few days ago when a member in this forum made comments about certain american mongers. I specifically added a report stating that " there are going to be some very interesting reports coming up", right after I read that particular report.
Forget whether I agreed with it or not, the point is that I knew it was going to get ugly with the issue of race. No need need to write about those issues in this particular forum. We can create a new forum for that, just leave this one alone for the purpose of helping each other chase brazilian tail.
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[QUOTE=Allforrio]G they will not stop its part of their nature man
I understand that yeah WE go to enjoy the land of the ladies but thats us you would not believe how many people have the same issues as far a race
They will NEVER STOP
You can't change a persons nature.[/QUOTE]
You got that right.
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Lets Return...
Let us return to the purpose of this forum: sharing information.
With that I give you this:
For those adventurous among us, who have ventured to Barra de Tijuca. The city has closed Cafe 400,..again. For those unfamiliar with it: During the week it was run like a Termas, and on weekends it was for swinging Cariocas.
As reported in Odia yesterday:
It was raided by 20 SEOP agents, (they're the Public Order guys, an uphill battle in Rio, if you ask me.) The club was operating illegally, licensed as a bar, but suspected of being a brothel. (OMG...there's prostitution in Barra!!!) :eek:
16 rooms were found, (they didn't see that on previous raids?!) One room was used to store liquor and hundreds of boxes of condoms.
They've been fined many times, but continued to operate as usual. Looks like they're going after them as a public nuisance for continued disobedience of the Law. (They must think they're in Copa or Centro.)
I think the bribe just went UP.
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/prefeitura_interdita_boate_ilegal_na_barra_da_tijuca_31701.html[/url]
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NO full moderation
[QUOTE=Java Man]I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.[/QUOTE]
Fully second that. Just reporting the offensive post is enough.... like I did for the second one of Brazilman that was removed.
EA
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[QUOTE=Java Man]I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.[/QUOTE]
I'm throwing in my NO vote on full moderatiuon.
I like what the Java Man says.