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RCA Knight
Thanks for the advice. I personally, like the mixed girls! The mulatas! I dont want to go to floripa, because I hear that its mostly white chicks. I can have the white chicks here in the USA, but its something about the mulatas that I LOVE.
Anyway, Im gonna try to say between 3-6 months in Brazil. I may go to Fortaleza, how can i obtain a apartment in Fortaleza?
If any of you guys have anymore information for me, I would like to hear it.
Thanks alot
-Dray
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Undray:
There are TONS of flat/apartments in Fortaleza, you can just show up, stay in a hotel for a week (I like Mariana Park) and walk around looking at flats. If you want to look before you go: www.flatshop.com.br. As RCA pointed out, Fortaleza can get boring pretty fast, of course tehre are tons of great beachs up and down the coast. And Floripa is not "mostly white chicks" there are just more, percentagewise than in Rio. personally, for summertime, I'd stay in Floripa, for winter, Fortal. Check out my older reports.
Enjoy!
Tom B.
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Tomb,
Thanks for the advice man. You and RCA said that Fortaleza gets old pretty fast..what do you guys mean by that? Do the clubs get old, beaches, things to do...what do you guys mean? Also, out of Floripa and Fortaleza which city has the hottest and more laid back chicks?
Also, which place would I get more for my dollar? Fortaleza or Floripa?
Basically, I want to go to a place in which the crime is low, a place where there are ton of hot chicks, a clean city, and a place in which is least expensive.
Thanks guys
Dray
Also, which of the two cities has a good selection of ladies, for maybe wife material?
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..... "Basically, I want to go to a place in which the crime is low, a place where there are ton of hot chicks, a clean city, and a place in which is least expensive" .....
Undray I heard about miracles in Lourdes but never in Brasil ;-)
About 'tons of hot chicks', unless you're in your 20's, if little older in the best shape of your life, more than reasonably good-looking, perfect samba/pagode/forro dancer and of course perfectly fluent in portugese you have almost NO chance to score a girl in Floripa (except pros of course);
IMHO ......
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Undray,
If you're going to Brasil for 3-6 months to check it out, why not try a number of different places? I'm not sure how long the Brasil Air Passes are good for, but you may be able to get one and travel around the whole country, stay 2-4 weeks in each city you're interested in checking out, then make your own decision on where best to settle down.
I would start in Manaus, then go clock-wise around the country to Belem, Sao Luis, Fortaleza, Natal, Recife, Maceio, Aracaju, Salvador, Vitoria, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paolo, Florianopolis and anywhere else that strikes your fancy. If you prefer, feel free to start in the south (Floripa) and do the list backwards. I don't remember how the air passes work, they may not allow you to back track, this is why I suggest starting at one end of the country and work your way around to the other end.
CW
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What are the requirements for an USA citizen to get legal residence in Brazil?
There is not a big chance to get a residence authorisation for Gringos apart from you fulfil one of the following requirements:
1. You get a job here. This is in the meantime almost not possible anymore in Brazil. Because the employer has to proof that there is no Brazilian available on the job market for this job.
2. You invest 200 000 US$ in the Brazilian economy. (e.g. you start your own business here in Brazil)
3. If you are a retired person and you transfer your monthly retirement pay (min. 2000 US$ !) to Brazil.
4. You get married with a Brazilian girl. Make here pregnant is not enough!
Até logo
Dr. Pimpolho
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Hey all! Fala gente!
Just wanted to drop a line. I'd love to make a move down to Brazil for an e few years. One to practice my Portuguese (come from a Brazilian family), but also to just get the fuck out of the US for a while and enjoy what the world has to offer.
Anyone have any tips or suggestions for landing an American job that will pay for my extended stay in Brazil? I love Brazil - especially Nordeste, but I'm not about to make a move without a job!
Either way - have a good one fellas!
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Goo,
When I worked down there right out of college, I just happenned to get the job by being in the right place at the right time - mostly dumb luck! I suppose it helped that I had experience in the type of work I wound up being hired for and that I had been to Brasil as a teenager (spent the summer down there between my Junior & Senior years of high school), I mentioned this in my cover letter & resume and I also mentioned my desire to work overseas. One of the hundreds of companies that I applied to just happenned to have an openning (entry level position) in Brasil and I spent most of the next 2 years down there - mostly in the Nordeste.
You say that you come from a Brasillian family? If you have dual citizenship, then having a Brasillian passport, I think, would be a bonus for potential employers since they wouldn't have to worry about getting a work permit for you (they cost money after all). If you're fluent in Portuguese (both written as well as spoken) you have another reason for a potential employer to send you to work in Brasil.
Unfortunately, at this time, I'm not in a position to tell you what companies to contact. If I knew who to talk to, I'd be trying to get the job myself! My verbal portuguese is quite rusty & my written portuguese is basically non-existant, nothing that a few weeks with a long haired dictionary couldn't fix though.
CW
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Hey guys, I'm back again
I'm 95% sure that I'm moving to Fortaleza. I figure I can have fun, enjoy the place..without worrying about getting shot, as in if I would have stayed in Rio.
I will only stay about 3-4 months, but how much US dollars do you guys think I should have in my bank account (the min. amount) that I should have in my account?
Anyone know of any bars,clubs, malls in fortaleza..that I should check out to pic up non-pros?
Thanks guys, and by the way: Bust one for me!
Undray
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>What are the requirements for an USA citizen
> to get legal residence in Brazil?
I just got through spending about 4 months living in Cabo Frio, RJ. I was planning to stay longer, but, uh, those bills, ya know! Had to come back to the US and get a job. ;-)
My plan was basically just to stick around on a tourist visa and leave the country every three months or so. A Brazilian friend of mine assured me that there wouldn't be any problem with this. Since I was planning to head back to the States at least four times a year to visit family and friends, I didn't see the need to try for a different visa.
Does anyone know if this method will actually work? I've come to the realization that quite a bit of what my Brazilian pal told me was bullshit, so I'm wondering if this little bit of advice was bogus too.
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A lot of you guys are talking about living in the big cities in Brazil. One piece of advice I have for you is not to overlook the smaller cities.
I can think of a lot of great places to live in the US, but New York, LA, and Chicago are not on my list. The reason I don't want to live in these cities are traffic, crime, pollution, and TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE! As far as I'm concerned, the same drawbacks apply to Rio, Sao Paulo and the other Brazilian cities.
The last four months I spent living in Brazil, I was mostly in Cabo Frio, about 2 1/2 hours drive east of Rio. Small cities usually have less crime, traffic, and pollution. They also have a lower cost of living on day-to-day items (food, rent, beer, etc). The non-pro girls are usually more easily impressed, and the pros charge less.
I'll comment more on the girls, since thats what this forum is all about. If you are actually intrerested in not paying for sex, a smaller city can be easier hunting ground. If you have a car, an apartment to yourself, a television, and some money in your pocket, you greatly outclass 95% of the local 20-something guys that you are competing against. If you think these aren't important in picking up a Brazilian girlfriend, then you know nothing about Brazilian girls. ;-)
You don't need a BMW in a small city. To these chicks a VW Golf is a "carrão." I'm not kidding! A decent, used car that costs only R$25K is a pussy wagon in a small city. Hell, I got dumped by one of my ficantes for a guy who owned a damn motorcycle! A small-town girl would much rather be sleeping with an older, less attractive guy who can take her out of town for some fun than a hot 20-something who is going to take her nowhere but the same old places she's seen all her life.
If you still want to pay for play, small town girls are usually much cheaper than Rio or SP girls. If you are paying over R$100 for a girl in an interior city, you are paying too much. My friends tell me that the going rate for some of the local Cabo Frio girls is about R$60. My buddies who hang with the local pros sometimes get freebies just for the cost of dinner. Believe me, your money goes a long way in the smaller cities in Brazil.
Personally, I never bothered to find out. Inside of 4 months, with very rough Portuguese, this somewhat overweight mid-30's American scored with 8 different chicks, multiple times each, without paying anyting more than the occasional dinner. This is WITHOUT a car, a nice apartment, or really trying very hard.
Anyway, don't pass up the smaller cities in Brazil when you go looking for a place to settle down. Remember that if you settle down in the big city, you actually have to LIVE in the big city when you aren't drinking and whoring. The small cities, IMHO, are more livable, and the big city is usually only a few hours away when you feel the need for something a little more exotic.
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Right on Fartknocker and Cashworks! Looks like great advice. Yup, got the dual citizenship. And I'd definitely agree about the smaller cities.
Looks like I better start sending our resumes! Peace!
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Fartknocker:
”My plan was basically just to stick around on a tourist visa and leave the country every three months or so Does anyone know if this method will actually work?”
As a tourist you can stay 90 days in Brazil. If you want to stay more you can extend your visa for another 90 days. You can do this extension in every office of the Policia Federal.
There is no need to leave the country and come back to get another 90 days.
The maximum duration of stay is a total of 180 day per year.
If you overdraw your visa the Polcia Federal will register your name in the “black book”. As a consequence you are not allowed to come to Brazil again or you have at least a lot of trouble. A lot of things are not working here in Brazil but unfortunately in this case they are well organized.
Dr. Pimpolho
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Fartknocker,
I never made it to Cabo Frio, but always heard good things about it. It'll have to go on my list of places to visit if I ever get back to Brasil.
Visas - I'm hardly an authority, but when I was transferred out of Brasil, the company transferred about 25 other guys at the same time. Some of these guys had been living in Brasil for 5-10 years on work permits, once they were transferred elsewhere, the company didn't bother renewing their work permits, so they had to get tourist visas whenever they went back. Some of them were able to get permanent visas due to wives and kids, but that isn't necessarily an option for everyone. The guys who used the tourist visas would work out of Brasil for 6-8 weeks usually, and then have 3-8 weeks in Brasil for their time off. I occasionally heard about people getting hassled at the airport coming in, but the hassles seemed to always involve large quantities of alcohol that had been consumed during the flight to Brasil so their visa/visits may or may not have been a contributing factor.
I had a problem getting a tourist visa for Brasil once when I was in Venezuela. The vice consule just flat refused to give me a visa because he thought I was heading down there to work. He had looked through my passport and noticed two expired work permits - no amount of discussion could persuade him otherwise. The real ***** of it was that I was planning on buying an apartment & this scared me off - I could just see dumping $30K on a place in Fortaleza & then never be allowed to go back due to visa problems. To make matters worse, 4 years later, I was working with an American who lived in Fortaleza - he told me that the apartment that I was going to buy for $30K had just sold for $150K!!! I think that was the only time I have ever wanted to truly beat the crap out of a public official.
I read somewhere on one of the Brasil boards last month (I think), where somebody was suggesting to somebody else that they get a "5 year multiple entry visa". It was the first time I had ever heard of this type of visa, but it would be worth investigating. If you live anywhere near Washington, DC you should drop by the Brasillian Consulate and tell them you're planning on spending a lot of time in their country - they should be able to fix you up with the appropriate visa - it's what they do after all. I dropped by there a number of years ago and was helped by an absolutely beautiful young lady, unfortunately, I was with my (then) girlfriend, so I wasn't able to talk about anything except visas.
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Hey Guys,
Do I have a higher chance of scoring non-pros in Fortaleza, since I am a black american?
Let me know what you guys think, because Im 95% sure I'm moving to Fortaleza sometime this year.
Thanks
Undray