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Nice post traveler. I'm in San Diego and my general experience pretty much jives with what you described. My own timid nature makes it difficult for me to get to the extras sometimes, but a provider who saw I was struggling suggested that I remove the towel to indicate I wanted more. She had me put her hand on my johnson and said that practice should work most times. Of course, I have gone to a few where the opportunity for extras simply did not arise. I received no signals or body language from the provider and hence resigned myself to enjoy the massage and nothing more. Also, regarding the towel, I strip down and lay on my stomach without the towel while waiting for the massuse. Sometimes if they start to put the towel I'll tell them that it's ok they don't have to. If she does not put the towel that's pretty much a shoe-in for extras. I've also read or heard that any place that has the neon "Oriental Massage" sign is good for more.
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Nice post, USTraveller. I'd simply add that I've had success in getting extras not only by faking being there before but by saying it's my first time at that particular spa, but that I've been at others.
This can be a useful approach if you're from out of town.
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US traveller,
Excellent pointers on AMP I will forward this information with your blessings.
Thanks
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great post ustraveller. through some trials and errors, i have used some of your techniques to get full service at places i have never been to. i think the key to getting this is to act confidently as if getting full service is part of the menu. also it makes you appear that you have been to that place before.
when i went to d.c. once, i had asked the therapist about the price for full service at ginsa. the girl said that i should know this because i had already been there before. suffice to say, my attitude helped in this manner. in addition, i try to build rapport between the therapist and myself so that she feels comfortable with me and that i am not law enforcement.
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Great post USTraveller. I have written a similar list for both the CT and DC boards but not as comprehensive as your post.
IMHO, some points to re-emphasize are:
[B]Get completely naked ASAP[/B], even if the 65 year old mamasan hasn't left the room yet. That way they'll know that you're not LE. I've been told this by both AMP and non-AMP employees and owners.
[B]Read WSG ahead of time[/B] to learn as much as possible about the place you'll be patronizing, including prices, services available, etc. One great trick is to read and discover which girl gave great service but is no longer working there, then ask for that girl by name when you show up. There's no way you can be called a liar on this since the girl is now gone, and the mamasan and everyone else will assume that you must be a repeat customer.
[B]Go for a full hour or at least 45 minutes, not 30 minutes.[/B] Table showers performed by the girl are one of my favorite parts of any AMP, but some AMPs will only do them for 45-minute and 1-hour customers, and will tell the 30-minute customer to take the shower himself.
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US Travellor
From one experienced "AMPIST" to another,
Very good post.
I will refer newbies to it when they ask. Saves us all a lot of typing!
Everything you said is right on the money and I cannot disagree with any of your comments.
Since we all know that YMMV applies to these places, the important thing is for fellow mongers to post good and bad reviews with names.
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If there was a forum "just for newbies," then I would say that the US Travellor post would be an excellent first post. Similar to the O'Toole post in the Mexico section. Excellent data well written.
Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John
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Lot of good info here. Something I have found that helps is when you pay for the massage (usually back in the room) know how much it is and have any discount ads/cupons or bussiness cards ready in the center of the money. I also carry a condom there and let it be seen when I pay for the massage. Has worked well the before as she asked "You bring condom with you yes?"
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One good technique I use in a strange (strange like I never been there, not WIERD) parlor is to get naked and don't let that little towel they give you touch your ass. If she keeps putting the towel on you, keep throwing it off.
Of course, once they leave the towel off then you can say that you always get "full body" massage. Also, you can ask about topless, etc. These are key words. When you turn over and Mr. Johnson is waking up, all should be in order.
I just love it when I go to AMP's and the Asian lady sees my big ol' boner and always says invariably, "Somebody is coming 'arrive'!" or "Some 'ting is waking up!"
Also, if you go to an AMP, ALWAYS ask about a prostate massage. Once you get one, you are bespoiled for life, I guarantee it.
(One thing I have found is that there are not many white massage ladies who will do prostate work. I don't know why; it must be the cultural.)
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This forum is full of great pointers, and wish I had known about when I first ventured out to the amps. I think the most important part is to act relaxed and friendly when you in. When the mamasan answers the door smile and ask how she has been and give her a hug like she is a long last friend. They usually take your hand and give it a little squeeze as you walk back to your room. Always say you have been there before and I always say I cannot remember her name but say and show she was short with big boobs. They usually buy off and are happy. Everybody is right when it pays to know what the going rate at the place is. There are a couple places that know me and the mamasan lets me pick out my girl and other places usually just send one down. I normally do not carry my wallet into these places and put money in two different pockets and just make a gut feel of how much to pull out when the girl comes into the room. I don't like to have to negotiate during the session, so depending on the girl and the mood, just take the money out my pocket and put in on the little table. It has always worked and I have never been short changed by putting down fs and getting only hj or bj. Then just let the session run its course. I really like the shower part, especially if she is really good at that part. Just read a local thread about a amp where the girl gets naked in the shower and lets you wash her. Needless to say, I am heading there next.
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I've always heard about prostate massages, but I never had the experience, until recently I think. I've been to plenty of MPs, usally AMPs, who lightly massage the anal area, and I thought that was what it was all about. Then I was visiting one of my usual AMPs in Boston, and she went much further this time. While I was still on my stomach, and she had reached under me to massage my tool, she massaged my anus, and then put her finger in it, lightly at first, but then deeper. It was a strange yet incredible sensation, somewhat hurtful but stimulating at the same time. In short order, I exploded like I've never exploded before. My question - is this what a prostate massage is supposed to be like? I'd appreciate feedback on this. Thanks.
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Might Spearsman, I agree with you about springing for the full hour. Usually, it puts them more at ease because you are willing to spend more money. You are right about the shower too. If you are going for the full hour, they are more often than not more playful in the shower room with you.
One question though, how many times has the mamasan or girl asked you to shower by yourself? I have never been left alone in the shower and I always assumed that it was because the girl wanted to make sure that you were clean in all the right places for her hygiene. Granted, if I only paid for a half hour, the shower experience was very rushed. I was only in there long enough to have my dick washed! But, the only time I've been left alone was in the Sauna waiting for a girl to get free to massage me. Just curious.
And, no, I'm not questioning the truth of anything you post. I can see that you are a very senior member with a lot of posts, so your word is golden. I've just never been left alone to shower before and wanted to be prepared for it if it happens. Especially if it happens a lot. Thanks, Box
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Dear Boxcc:
First, there is a HJ-only AMP, the New Seoul Spa in Vernon, Connecticut that I've been going to occasionally for over 10 years that does not provide table showers - you just take a shower by yourself. I always make sure that the important parts are washed thoroughly and clean. However, since it is definitely a HJ-only place, cleanliness is not that much of an issue. The main reason that I go here is when my back hurts and I need a good massage, but my funds are low ($50 house fee for an hour plus $30 or $40 for the girl).
If my funds are higher, I always go for a full-service AMP such as Hong Kong or Magic in Waterbury, CT.
For all other AMPs (other than the New Seoul), I have always received a table shower with the wash-up done by the girl, with the exception of one AMP in Waterbury, CT where I paid for only half an hour and was told that I should shower by myself. The girl told me that their policy was to not give a table shower unless the guy paid for at least 45 minutes. Since that time, I've always gone for an hour whenever I go to an AMP (some AMPs have a 45-minute option, but many do not).
I'm not sure how many AMPs follow that same policy of no table shower for 30 minute-customers, but it is something to think about. My main reason for recommending that mongers pay for 45 minutes or an hour is to avoid being rushed. I've been going to AMPs since 1989 and have noticed a distinct difference in the way the girl acts for a 30 minute session versus the longer session. Since the cost difference is usually small ($20 or even only $10), I now always go for the longer session.
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http://members.lycos.co.uk/ampdude/newpage.html
This is an excellant guide on how to behave in AMP. I have posted it several times on the Iliinois board for all newbie questions. i don't think it is competition, Jackson, but rather a referral.
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Mighty Spearsman,
Thank you for your response. I have only been to AMPs in GA, SC, NC, and PA. So, I did not know about the shower yourself routine. Thanks for the info, it is most appreciated.
Also, I agree totally about springing for the full hour. The more money that the AMP thinks you are willing to spend, the better they treat you. If you only pay for the half hour, they do try to rush you because they think either you are cheap, or you don't have a lot of money. They are not going to waste a lot of effort on you if they think there is no monetary reward coming for their time. However, if you do pay for the hour, they see you as a potentially big 'tipper', so they go all out to try to separate you from your money, which can be most enjoyable!
One more thing for any newbies out there. It is very, very important that these providers feel comfortable with you. You have to act as relaxed as possible, which means you have to act like you have done this all before. If the AMP gets nervous about you, or thinks you haven't been there before, you will not get what you went there looking for. You probably won't even get a HJ. Stay relaxed, be nice and treat them with respect. Try to bond with them if you can. Talk, joke or laugh as much as possible. Let them feel comfortable, that is, if they speak good English. If they don't speak English very well, just be very gentle, don't move too quickly and never, never talk about money for sex! Just give them a tip and see what happens. If you tipped enough, then you will get what you want. If not, you just blew some money. But, if you RTFF, you should have a good idea of how much everything costs in your area. Good Luck!