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Hey Client Corp! Oops!
Now that I read Eros 9/20 report, I do remember a local guy I was talking to, who told me there is a place, by the docks or the port or something like that. Its where visiting ships work crews arrive, there are bars around there also. The place has a definite name also, but I forgot it, but its the kind of word that would get you instant recognition from your taxi driver if you said "take me to #@*!" The story I was told is that they are lined up outside, so you can go with your taxi, and have the taxi wait while you go pick one to take home.
As a normal local guy, in other words poor, he said that sometimes for a laugh he will go there and walk up to a ***** and ask to squeeze their tits and ass, or as he would say, you ask them if you can check to see if they are good quality, like a piece of fruit or meat at the market. Speaking russian gets him this cheap thrill, since he can't afford to fuck them, but they do let him have a squeeze! He said he also asks them if they have the small pussy, and uses the hand signal for this, which is the first finger pressed against the thumb.
He told me most of the *****s that you will find there have have a lot of mileage, or you could call them seasoned pros, but maybe sometimes a new one will show up that's nicer. I asked an escort about the girls there, and she was quick to say that the seaport *****s will give you a disease with your service, no extra charge.
Anyway, I forgot about it because I only heard about it, I didn't actually go check it myself. I just ran out of time before I got the chance to go and see. I used my time going after my own preference of amateur college types, or 'friends of a friend' type contacts. But please report if you go!
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Can anyone recommend a good "pickup bar" in Odessa? I will be there at the end of January.
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Odessa
Hi folks,
You will have a rather difficult time in Odessa. Nobody speaks any of the western languages and, more important, you can not read where you are because the Russian language, that is the language they speak in Odessa, has the cyrilic signs.
The best you can do is find a cabdrives who speaks english.
I can help myself quite well because I speak and can read this language.
In the winter you can find girls at the "Odessa Port". At this pick place you can find tenth of (not very well looking) girls. There are near this some "Odessa Port" some small beerhouses where the girls stay when it is cold.
But again: very complicated if you do not understand the Russian language.
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Have to disagree with William.
I spoke with a few other Americans in Odessa when I was there in September, they couldn't speak any Russian at all, and they didn't seem to have too much trouble picking up regular girls in the bars/clubs/discos. Maybe they were bragging/lying about their success rate, I never checked. They just hit the spots around the main street, Deribovskaya, at the center. One guy said he got lucky every night, others not so successful.
I was way too lazy and also a little ill to go out chasing, preferring to order in room service and pursue their girlfriends. This method is hit and miss, and gets very frustrating, but it can also produce great results with a little luck.
For example, this is Natasha.
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Arrived in Odessa on Sunday night from Budapest and checked into the Londonskaya. Went out and visited a few bars and cafes but, being a Sunday, it was all quiet with just a few couples in the corners. I headed back to the hotel at about 11 and thought I might check out the hotel bar.
There were 3 of them sitting at the bar - the only customers - and all of them were acceptable. One hot blande with a body at least worth 8 but with a face only a 6. She also had dreadful bright red lipstick and one of those garish red lace shirts. There was also another blonde with curly hair also an easy 7 and the third was a young pretty girl who was a little plump for my taste. As soon as I walked in and sat at the bar the first blonde came over and sat down. Not bad English. She cut to the chase and offered her services for $150. Quite a reasonable opening bid considering it was a hotel bar. I got her down to $80 and we went straight up to the room. There was no problems with security as she told me that she had to pay 50% to the hotel.
A good night as she was keen to please - rebutted my entreaties to let me shag her up the arse though.
All in all a good option for us lazy boys out there. However the bar is dead as you like normally and would not recommend it unless you are there solely to pick up one of the girls.
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Sorry for the delay in posts.
Odessa is very slow this time of year - and the ONLY place I could find girls was the Port of Odessa. It is tough to get around without speaking Russian.
To find Port of Odessa - if you are staying at Hotel Odessa or Londonskya:
If you are facing the Hotel Odessa - head right along the waterway and walk 1/4 mile. In front of the security gates to Port of Odessa - you can't miss the girls standing outside. I'd say 20 + girls looking for new friends.
Beware very petite dark hair girl named "Sveta", took money and ran. Other girls very nice, work with their boss. I know it sounds strange, but the boss controls the situation. You should pay $40 for 2 hours of companionship or $50 for 3. You will pay $5 for taxi there, $5 back. And pay $15 for room. I wouldn't bring to your hotel!
I have a name for a driver who took me to moldovia and a couple emails of girls who can arrange fun for you. These girls simply are out there working and will flat out find you exactly what you are looking for. Remind them of internet and posts. Tell them you will give their service high marks if they come thru!
mariya44@ukr.net
dina55@ukr.net
both funny nice girls.
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I'll be in Odessa and Nikolaev areas late April/early May.
If anyone will be around perhaps we can hook up.
Might stop by in Kiev also but I'll be really forcusing more on the south.
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Last year, Masta said:
"FYI to all who wish to travel to Ukraine who are Americans looking to meet Ukrainian women or go *****mongering!
Effective July 1, 2002 the Ukrainian Government introduced visa free travel for stays of up to eight days for American citizens arriving at the international airports of Simferopol and Odessa and at the international port of Odessa. Travel must originate abroad and end at these ports of entry without any other initial stop in Ukraine. Travelers must also depart Ukraine from the same port used at the time of arrival.
Straight from the US State Departments website. Check it out for yourself!"
I could not find anything about this at the US DOS web site.
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Go to www.yahoo.com and search using this criteria:
odessa state department port of entry visa
The first link will be to the DOS travel warnings site. On yahoo, click the "cached" version of the page. You can see the exerpt that I pasted last year. The current DOS page for Ukraine has since been updated. I'm not sure how long that lasted; obviously not more than a year was that rule in effect.
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Masta:
Before we all go through that search, are you saying that this exemption for Americans visiting Crimea is no longer effective?
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I do not see the language that I pasted last year on the DOS travel advisory Ukraine page. I am assuming it is not in effect anymore, however, I would consult with the Ukrainian embassy to see if that rule is still in effect and why it was stopped.
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Masta-
This item was updated in February.
http://travel.state.gov/ukraine.html
With increased emphasis on monitoring foreigners to control nuclear non-proliferation and terrorism. There are certain pressures to increase VISA requirements.
Conversly, EU open borders and simply the desire for increased toursim push the balance towards open borders. Russian plans to a VISA free progrm for EU in 2007. Many can change between now and then of course.
Keep us informed if you find anything new.
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Can anyone tell me what the recreational drug scene is like in Kiev? What kind of penalties for having a couple doobies on you, etc? I'm not interested in the how - just is the Ukraine a somewhat tolerant country, or do they totally crack down on minor stuff like weed?
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Drugs in Ukraine? You must be off yer rocker mate! Whereas for natives well they know the lay of the land, if the militzia gets hold of you, well they'll greatly enjoy treating you like the bullfighter and picador treats the bull....