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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2244429]I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. I have never experienced FKKs. I have had a few great experiences with Brazilian termas girls who didn't speak English. It has been a few years since I have been in MTL, but I found Montreal girls hit or miss. In general, the chance of having a truly "great" experience with a Montreal girl is lower than with a Brazilian girl.
Language certainly helps the connectivity. Obviously, if you're into more performance from the likes of the Unicorn Healers and others you need there to be a common language.
As far as SPs taking the lead, I'm not sure I agree. It all depends. If you don't speak the same language and the girl is a bit reserved, perhaps some foreplay geared towards her pleasure. I realize not all Montreal girls are into foreplay. It seems to be a fact that some prefer only suckie-fuckie.[/QUOTE]Sorry Wyatt, let me give it another go.
So far, from all the non English speakers I've had fantastic times with these SP's were a bit older, maybe in the 25 and above age bracket and the girls were true courtesans. Meaning that was their only job, no school or second job on the side.
My question was this. To you or anyone. Did not realize it's been a while since you've been to MTL. Most of the girls in MTL who get reviewed heavily like the ones from XO or the unicorns all speak great English. Do any of the locals recommend any primarily French speaking SP's that are flying under the radar that we may not hear about because the out of towners kinda shy away? Do the out of towners shy away completely? What have the experiences been if not? I heard great things about Celeste from.
Vogue, but unsure as the reviews were primarily on the green board. Walter had recommended daphne I believe of euphoria to me. I declined because of the little English She spoke. These girls from MTL tend to be a bit younger and may not take the lead and if your a guy who prefers that this may cause some awkwardness?
The other thing is what one reviewers and bookers assessment of an SP's English may be completely different to the client.
The whole comparison to a terma and FKK Wyatt is that I'm guessing these would prob go a lot smother for a situation where you don't speak the native tongue of the Provider because they see so many foreign out of town clients, the girls are also full time likely SP's so they know how to get you in and out a happy camper without speaking a lick of English.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2244602]unopened bottle of water[/QUOTE]I always show the young lady what she can drink in my refrigerator, and let her open it herself.
Never give a girl an open container, or poured glass of anything.
Best Regards
Smuler
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[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2244273]May I remind you that GFE refers to DFK and BBBJ. Every escort allows penetration including the non GFE ones.[/QUOTE]If that was truly the case, there wouldn't be a very long thread on the Montreal about bait and switch providers, or the litany of reviews again on the Montreal board about scammers not providing the services they advertise on ad websites. Just last week a poster with a track record of posting nothing but glowing reviews reported not even being able to get a HJ from Ariana at XO escorts before that thread mysteriously disappeared. A surprising report since all the girls at XO are supposed to be GFE.
Some prolific reviewers have been known to make stuff up about the services provided to them in exchange for discounts. People familiar with the history of the Montreal board will remember a member known as Delta123 as a case in point.
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2244307]? I'm not interested in their personal accounts. That's why I mentioned Scarlett. It's her cam account. This is useful so we get a better idea of the girls before we book them. Those social media accounts are, if anything, more promotion for them.[/QUOTE]Isabella whose profile is no longer on XO's website (momentary?) is also doing camming. She did webcam duos with Scarlett. Nastya works as an independent too and has a Twitter account. You will find her indy name in her review thread and from there will be able to find her Twitter.
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Of the girls I saw during my trip, only Noemie of XO spoke NO English (pas un mot, she said). The session was hot, intense and. Short. I find that the part of my brain that gets my dick hard and the part where I process non-English are the same so I can either fuck or translate but not both. So not speaking english is not a problem but having some vibe for post coital convo helps to leading to a second shot, tho this isn't always possible at my age now.
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[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2244652]The whole comparison to a terma and FKK Wyatt is that I'm guessing these would prob go a lot smother for a situation where you don't speak the native tongue of the Provider because they see so many foreign out of town clients, the girls are also full time likely SP's so they know how to get you in and out a happy camper without speaking a lick of English.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I should've advised that you should focus your question solely on the Montreal scene. FKKs, Termas and MTL escorts are so different your question has many dimensions that don't line up well.
The more transactional the venue the less language should matter in my opinion. I personally can have a great time with a French speaker in Montreal. Do yourself a favor and learn some basic phrases. There are so many more bilingual speaking escorts you can also avoid the situation entirely.
Interestingly, termas can actually have some foreplay outside the room and post-coital discussion. There is also the opportunity for a follow-up meeting outside the termas. Having said all that, I spent two days and nights with a termas girl who didn't speak a lick of English. It's difficult, but if your kind and patient, she will likely be kind and patient.
Some guys like talking to the girls about every day things. I think it makes them feel like there is some type of relationship beyond sex for money. Sometimes a guy will talk up how some college girl is so smart, funny, etc. etc. That's fine. That's all a bonus.
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Excuse my ignorance but what's a terma? I have been to FKK in Germany do they have that in Canada too? Are escorts the only option in Montreal? There's no clubs, massage parlors, or street walkers?
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[QUOTE=SerialaoMonger;2245036]Excuse my ignorance but what's a terma? I have been to FKK in Germany do they have that in Canada too? Are escorts the only option in Montreal? There's no clubs, massage parlors, or street walkers?[/QUOTE]Termas are large incall facilities in South America that are similar to Germany's FKK incall "megabrothels".
Canada does not have "multi-girl" incall facilities. The incall locations of agencies are 1 or 2 bedroom condominium units, or hotel rooms.
To understand why, you have to understand Canada's tortured history regarding the legality of prostitution.
For a very long time, outcall escorting was legal for both parties to the sex transaction, but incall was illegal, and street walking was illegal for both parties under public solicitation and common nuisance principles.
The police did not really enforce the law against incall, but they did enforce the law prohibiting streetwalkers. But it was unwise for an incall establishment to be too noticeable since it was theoretically illegal.
Some do-gooders filed a lawsuit arguing that the law prohibiting incall was unconstitutional, since outcall was legal.
They won the battle but lost the war. Incall was ruled legal, but the decision was put on hold so the Canadian legislature could enact new prostitution laws if they chose to do so within a one year period.
The legislature responded by adopting the Nordic Model, making it legal for one party to sell sex, but illegal for the other party to purchase sex, and making it illegal for a third party to assist the seller of sex (unless the assistance is an activity that is specifically allowed in the statute). This new law applies to outcall, incall and streetwalking.
The police of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver (which are surprisingly independent of the legislature) looked at this newly passed cyclone of shit law and responded with a non-enforcement policy stating that they would not pursue consensual commercial sex transactions unless there is evidence of underaged parties, violence, coercion, or public nuisance. If it is kept out of sight and everyone is a consenting adult, they don't give a shit.
Obviously, no one in their right mind is going to establish a big incall with line-ups and publish the address, as this would unnecessarily test the tolerance of the police. Incall exists but the addresses are only given out with an appointment and should not be published online. Outcall is accepted and the hotels do not hassle working girls or impede their trip to your hotel room door.
The laws are enforced against streetwalkers as they always were. Massage parlors and full-service strip joints still exist but keep a lower profile. Most full-service massage parlors give their address to customers when an appointment is made and keep their address private. Any activities at a strip joint beyond stripping happen in secluded areas of the club and are really not discussed online.
For most of us, seeing a reviewed escort, either outcall or incall, is the way to go in Montreal. It simply isn't a constant multi-girl party at one location like an FKK or a terma. This is why reviews are important. You largely decide who to see based on reviews and your trust of those reviews and agency recommendations.
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Montreal in February
Thinking of visiting Montreal for the first time mid February. I realize it will be cold but will dress accordingly. Is February a "down" month re the escort scene or business as usual?
I spent the weekend perusing the last 50 pages or so of this very impressive thread and have already compiled a wish list of 29 escorts I'd like to see. Great thanks to amazing board members such as Mongerer88, Chubzy Maximus, Wyatt Earp, Smuler, HungryStud101, & recent "regular" member CloudSurf, among others.
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[QUOTE=MrJetsetter;2245135]Thinking of visiting Montreal for the first time mid February. I realize it will be cold but will dress accordingly. Is February a "down" month re the escort scene or business as usual?
I spent the weekend perusing the last 50 pages or so of this very impressive thread and have already compiled a wish list of 29 escorts I'd like to see. Great thanks to amazing board members such as Mongerer88, Chubzy Maximus, Wyatt Earp, Smuler, HungryStud101, & recent "regular" member CloudSurf, among others.[/QUOTE]Dude! Show us the list! 29!
Feb will be cold it you'll find some warm bodies to heat things up. I think Feb will be fine for you. You may also benefit from cheaper room rates.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2244981]There is also the opportunity for a follow-up meeting outside the termas. Having said all that, I spent two days and nights with a termas girl who didn't speak a lick of English. It's difficult, but if your kind and patient, she will likely be kind and patient..[/QUOTE]It weird you mention this Wyatt. Through my work I actually met a man who served in Korea, brought back a bride and over the course of a 40 year marriage learned fluent Korean. Was a really cool story about how they met, fell in love and had a kick ass life together without each other knowing the others native tongue.
Thanks for the advice. Will learn some French phrases. Was curious to see if any only primary French speakers were under the radar. All the heavily publicized ones speak English.
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[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2244966]Of the girls I saw during my trip, only Noemie of XO spoke NO English (pas un mot, she said). The session was hot, intense and. Short. I find that the part of my brain that gets my dick hard and the part where I process non-English are the same so I can either fuck or translate but not both. So not speaking english is not a problem but having some vibe for post coital convo helps to leading to a second shot, tho this isn't always possible at my age now.[/QUOTE]I guess if it's an hour session it should not be bad as there is less time for chit chat. I usually like getting two sog, kinda prefer 90 min at min though.
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[QUOTE=MrJetsetter;2245135]Thinking of visiting Montreal for the first time mid February. I realize it will be cold but will dress accordingly. Is February a "down" month re the escort scene or business as usual?[/QUOTE]I would think it would be business usual. You might find a bit more escort availability. I expect some business and pleasure travelers try to schedule their trips during Montreal's great summer scene. Of course, you can see the Montreal Canadiens. In fact, that is what I would tell the border agents is the purpose of my trip.
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Small Scarlett update
Scarlett of XO seemingly has some ambitions to be a pornstar, and has applied to at least one company in the US in order to do so. She seems like a good fit. Unfortunately that would very likely mean the end of her time as an escort in Montreal.
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2245390]Scarlett of XO seemingly has some ambitions to be a pornstar, and has applied to at least one company in the US in order to do so. She seems like a good fit. Unfortunately that would very likely mean the end of her time as an escort in Montreal.[/QUOTE]Interesting. How did you come about this information? In a way it makes sense as she has been praised by several reviewers for her ability to "put on a show" so to speak. It certainly seems as though she is able to put on a nice performance which is important for a girl perusing porn.