Stealing at Body Arum Day Spa / Beer Massage
Being resident in Bali and living reasonably close to one of the beer massage places of Body Arum I was a regular customer for the reasonably priced no frills HJ, until today.
Knowing exactly the amount of rupiah I put into my wallet when leaving home, plus double checking before I went in, when it came to paying it was short 1 50k note. I immediately confronted them realizing that I left my wallet out of sight for 5 minutes when taking a shower, but of course nobody knows anything. It's only $5- in the end, part of which I probably would've given as a tip to the girl anyway but it is a matter of principle.
Although I realize it is my own fault and I should always be cautious, I somehow let my guard down thinking that after 10+ return visits and them knowing I live here they surely wouldn't try anything. I paid 50k less then the regular price for the massage, to which they protested, and left the premises to never return again.
They lost one very regular well tipping customer and gained negative publicity all for a quick 5 bucks.
Sanur X Houses. 289X and 99X. Latitude and Longitude
[QUOTE=Happypingpong; 1398771]I tried two places in Sanur.
The one I mainly went to was 289x. It is roughly here: 8°42'22. 93"S 115°15'14. 98"E.
The other place was 99x. It is roughly here: 8°42'20. 76"S 115°15'16. 51"E.[/QUOTE]Senior Member Happypingpong's latitude and longitude converted into decimal values that can be pasted into Google Maps :
(perhaps someone knowledgable could check that the Happypingpong rough locations are correct)
Sanur XHouses. Latitude and Longitude.
289X = 8°42'22. 93"S 115°15'14. 98"E = decimal able to be posted into Google Maps .8. 706369 115. 254161.
99X = 8°42'20. 76"S 115°15'16. 51"E = decimal able to be posted into Google Maps .8. 705767 115. 254586
Bali: The best and worst of my mongering
Just on my first leg home after four days in Bali and wanted to give the bare bones take on my mongering successes and failures.
Arrival: got a cab just out of the airport and bargained hard to find I still paid about 5 times too much (lesson—get a cab from the window and ignore the teams of blue shirted drivers telling you they are the best choice). Had booked a hotel in Sanur based on info from the forum and off we went for Rs / 250, 000 (about $25).
The hotel I had booked on line was cheap and looked OK, but when I got there I found it was in a very remote location, on a back lane with little sign of life anywhere. This I learned it pretty much Sanur. The cabbie assured me I was making a mistake by staying there, and claimed there was more action in Katu (I was pretty clear on what I meant by action). So I dumped my $35 booking and went to Katu.
Katu is the main drag for the young Aussie crowd and had a lot more immediate promise than Sanur. The first hotel the cabbie took me too informed me that they would not accept guests, so I left and had him take me to another place. The second spot called the Yulia Beach Inn ($60 per night) had no problem with guests. I ended up giving the cabbie some extra money on top of the already high fare, but was at last in a hotel and settled in.
Girls in Katu.
The bars typically do not have girls lounging about waiting to meet mongering foreigners. Many bars to have hostesses, some of which dance in scanty outfits and who will give you a number or who you can pay to take home, but not really an easy find. Although some were pretty hot, I did not take this route.
There were some street walkers who looked pretty stoned near ground zero, but they wanted upwards of Rs / 1, 000, 000, which I was informed by some older Australian drinkers was way too much, and that I should expect to pay about Rs / 300, 000 (about US$30). Too much for a stung out street hooker in my opinion.
Right around ground zero, after talking to the street hookers, some young enterprising fellow on a motorbike asked if I wanted a young lady. We started the negotiations and he agreed to the Rs / 300, 00 price I offered and took me around the corner to a massage shop. The madam and her girls were friendly and funny and we chatted as she called a girl to come over. Apparently her girls were not that kind of girl.
The girl arrived on a motorbike and was my kind of hot—young, slender, pretty face and spoke English. She was from somewhere else, been in Bali a few months, etc and so forth but I didn't chat her up too much as I was focused on just one thing. My negotiator took me on his bike and she on her driver's bike and we went to the hotel. She went in my room, I paid the guys the Rs / 300, 000 with an extra Rs / 5000 tip. She was good a bit naive and such, but worth the time. She gave her phone number after our work was done, which I tried two nights later. She did not answer so I sent her a text to which she replied 'I cannot come, I am having problems with my pussy'. Fair enough, stay home or simply away.
I tried some massage parlors with poor results. The first I found through a woman on the street who promised me all the glory of Rome for a pittance (always a warning sign) and took me to a place not so far from where she perched. I selected a very cute Balinese girl (or so she claimed) and we went back to the room. She was plenty of fun, but insisted that for the Rs / 300, 000 price I paid up front I could only get a HJ. After several minutes of negotiations and getting her to show me her goodies she agreed to a BJ for all my remaining cash (I had hidden most of my money except for about Rs / 180, 000 which she found by insisting I let her go through my pockets to prove I did not have any more money). I agreed and she did an OK BJ with a condom.
Massage parlor two was on one of the back alleys and I went into it just because one of the girls was so damn cute. Had two of them massage me for an hour while I felt out the possibilities. Cost me Rs / 90, 000 (US$9) for the hour to find out they were not willing to go the extra mile, at least not that time.
Massage parlor three I found when a cutish girl on the main drag, again near ground zero, asked if I wanted a massage (they are everywhere asking this question) and I bluntly said no, but I want sex. She said Rs / 80, 000 and asked me to follow her. She led me down an alley to a back set of rooms where her companion was slouching around on a couch. They both started rubbing me and I asked if they understood what I wanted. 'Yes, of course, take off your clothes and give us the money' they said.
I gambled and of course once they had me in the compromised position they assured me they only thought I wanted a massage, but for an extra Rs / 500, 000 sex with both of them would take me to the heavens. So after fierce negotiations and me threatening to leave (even though they had my initial fee) , they agreed to sex for an additional Rs / 200, 000. I paid and of course they had to again delay. But they were now both giving me a HJ trying to convince me to give more money, so I came just out of spite and went my way. Not bad, and got a double girl massage and HJ for Rs / 300, 000, but was a bit of a hassle.
Sanur: well I had to see what it was all about so got a taxi to take me. He drove over on the meter (about Rs. 140, 000 there and back) and took me to a couple of the aquariums (the shacks with glass windows, with typically about 10 or so girls looking very bored and about 20 local guys lingering about). There were some cute girls, but not really appealing so I didn't indulge. I suppose with more time I could have found more ways of enjoying myself, but that was enough.
So after four days Bali probably has a lot more to offer than what I found, but here is the summary:
• Girls in bars—there are some who will go with you, usually expensive (as per their stated price) and not predictable.
• Discos and clubs—for the big ones, girls have to pay to get in, and are more expensive (about Rs / 1, 500, 000 or $150) ; the ones on the main drag had some lovely girls, mostly foriegn, but it was loud and I ended up sitting in a corner by myself until I just had to leave
• Massage parlors—you can get what you want, but not straight forward and could be more hassle than it is worth-I only got HJs from 2/3 successes.
• Sanur aquariums—very straight forward, and lots of info on them in this forum, but a bit sleazy and hard to get around as they are spread about in a very residential type setting and hard to find.
• Street girls in Katu—they are there, they come out about 11 PM and can be had, but be careful.
• Young Aussie (or other foreign) girls—very hot, but usually with their boyfriends and not really into gentlemen of my character and charms.
• Pimps on bikes—certainly my best experience. Negotiate and tell them what you want. I was not disappointed
The best and worst of your mongering
[QUOTE=Lance-a-Lot; 1399257]Just on my first leg home after four days in Bali and wanted to give the bare bones take on my mongering successes and failures.
Arrival: got a cab just out of the airport and bargained hard to find I still paid about 5 times too much (lesson—get a cab from the window and ignore the teams of blue shirted drivers telling you they are the best choice). Had booked a hotel in Sanur based on info from the forum and off we went for Rs / 250, 000 (about $25).
The hotel I had booked on line was cheap and looked OK, but when I got there I found it was in a very remote location, on a back lane with little sign of life anywhere. This I learned it pretty much Sanur. The cabbie assured me I was making a mistake by staying there, and claimed there was more action in Katu (I was pretty clear on what I meant by action). So I dumped my $35 booking and went to Katu.
Katu is the main drag for the young Aussie crowd and had a lot more immediate promise than Sanur. The first hotel the cabbie took me too informed me that they would not accept guests, so I left and had him take me to another place. The second spot called the Yulia Beach Inn ($60 per night) had no problem with guests. I ended up giving the cabbie some extra money on top of the already high fare, but was at last in a hotel and settled in.
Girls in Katu.
The bars typically do not have girls lounging about waiting to meet mongering foreigners. Many bars to have hostesses, some of which dance in scanty outfits and who will give you a number or who you can pay to take home, but not really an easy find. Although some were pretty hot, I did not take this route.
There were some street walkers who looked pretty stoned near ground zero, but they wanted upwards of Rs / 1, 000, 000, which I was informed by some older Australian drinkers was way too much, and that I should expect to pay about Rs / 300, 000 (about US$30). Too much for a stung out street hooker in my opinion.
Right around ground zero, after talking to the street hookers, some young enterprising fellow on a motorbike asked if I wanted a young lady. We started the negotiations and he agreed to the Rs / 300, 00 price I offered and took me around the corner to a massage shop. The madam and her girls were friendly and funny and we chatted as she called a girl to come over. Apparently her girls were not that kind of girl.
The girl arrived on a motorbike and was my kind of hot—young, slender, pretty face and spoke English. She was from somewhere else, been in Bali a few months, etc and so forth but I didn't chat her up too much as I was focused on just one thing. My negotiator took me on his bike and she on her driver's bike and we went to the hotel. She went in my room, I paid the guys the Rs / 300, 000 with an extra Rs / 5000 tip. She was good a bit naive and such, but worth the time. She gave her phone number after our work was done, which I tried two nights later. She did not answer so I sent her a text to which she replied 'I cannot come, I am having problems with my pussy'. Fair enough, stay home or simply away.
I tried some massage parlors with poor results. The first I found through a woman on the street who promised me all the glory of Rome for a pittance (always a warning sign) and took me to a place not so far from where she perched. I selected a very cute Balinese girl (or so she claimed) and we went back to the room. She was plenty of fun, but insisted that for the Rs / 300, 000 price I paid up front I could only get a HJ. After several minutes of negotiations and getting her to show me her goodies she agreed to a BJ for all my remaining cash (I had hidden most of my money except for about Rs / 180, 000 which she found by insisting I let her go through my pockets to prove I did not have any more money). I agreed and she did an OK BJ with a condom.
Massage parlor two was on one of the back alleys and I went into it just because one of the girls was so damn cute. Had two of them massage me for an hour while I felt out the possibilities. Cost me Rs / 90, 000 (US$9) for the hour to find out they were not willing to go the extra mile, at least not that time.
Massage parlor three I found when a cutish girl on the main drag, again near ground zero, asked if I wanted a massage (they are everywhere asking this question) and I bluntly said no, but I want sex. She said Rs / 80, 000 and asked me to follow her. She led me down an alley to a back set of rooms where her companion was slouching around on a couch. They both started rubbing me and I asked if they understood what I wanted. 'Yes, of course, take off your clothes and give us the money' they said.
I gambled and of course once they had me in the compromised position they assured me they only thought I wanted a massage, but for an extra Rs / 500, 000 sex with both of them would take me to the heavens. So after fierce negotiations and me threatening to leave (even though they had my initial fee) , they agreed to sex for an additional Rs / 200, 000. I paid and of course they had to again delay. But they were now both giving me a HJ trying to convince me to give more money, so I came just out of spite and went my way. Not bad, and got a double girl massage and HJ for Rs / 300, 000, but was a bit of a hassle.
Sanur: well I had to see what it was all about so got a taxi to take me. He drove over on the meter (about Rs. 140, 000 there and back) and took me to a couple of the aquariums (the shacks with glass windows, with typically about 10 or so girls looking very bored and about 20 local guys lingering about). There were some cute girls, but not really appealing so I didn't indulge. I suppose with more time I could have found more ways of enjoying myself, but that was enough.
So after four days Bali probably has a lot more to offer than what I found, but here is the summary:
• Girls in bars—there are some who will go with you, usually expensive (as per their stated price) and not predictable.
• Discos and clubs—for the big ones, girls have to pay to get in, and are more expensive (about Rs / 1, 500, 000 or $150) ; the ones on the main drag had some lovely girls, mostly foriegn, but it was loud and I ended up sitting in a corner by myself until I just had to leave
• Massage parlors—you can get what you want, but not straight forward and could be more hassle than it is worth-I only got HJs from 2/3 successes.
• Sanur aquariums—very straight forward, and lots of info on them in this forum, but a bit sleazy and hard to get around as they are spread about in a very residential type setting and hard to find.
• Street girls in Katu—they are there, they come out about 11 PM and can be had, but be careful.
• Young Aussie (or other foreign) girls—very hot, but usually with their boyfriends and not really into gentlemen of my character and charms.
• Pimps on bikes—certainly my best experience. Negotiate and tell them what you want. I was not disappointed[/QUOTE]I'm very sorry that you did not have a good experience in Bali, It sounds the same as my first trip tp Bali many years ago. If you ever return stay in 3 to 5 star accomadation or a Villa, $25 a day won't get you much especially for a well travelled gent like yourself. Also I would get a driver for the time that you are there, one that knows his way around, and dose not ask for kick backs from papsan's, he just drives you there and waits outside till you finish then takes you to the next destination of your choice, at least till you know your way around the good haunt's. PM me for contact details of a driver. This will take all the pressure off, and give you more time to concentrate on the matters at hand. I figure, if you are going to do it, do it right. BTW it's 'Kuta' not katu.
Happy mongering.
OneCrazyJoe
Sanur X-Houses take-out price
[QUOTE=Shuga; 1400387]. My procedure is quite simple:
. I never ask 'How much? ', I just hand over the money from left pocket, without looking at them, without counting them. Works every time. If the papasan should protest (which happened to me more than a year ago) I just walk away."[/QUOTE]I will be in Sanur later this year and will be partaking in Sanur for the first time.
I will be looking to take out to my clean comfortable air-cond hotel room, a woman for say 2 hours of massage and play and finishing with BBBJCIM.
So I will need to negotiate, rather than just walk in handing over Rupiah.
How best should I go about this at X-houses in Sanur?
And
What price should I expect to pay for this service?
Thanks for help Shuga or any other members with experience of such transactions.
Google maps coordinates and Facist Auto Correction
[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler; 1398983]Senior Member Happypingpong's latitude and longitude converted into decimal values that can be pasted into Google Maps :
(perhaps someone knowledgable could check that the Happypingpong rough locations are correct)
Sanur XHouses. Latitude and Longitude.
289X = 8°42'22. 93"S 115°15'14. 98"E = decimal able to be posted into Google Maps. 8.706369 115. 254161.
99X = 8°42'20. 76"S 115°15'16. 51"E = decimal able to be posted into Google Maps. 8.705767 115. 254586[/QUOTE]Sorry, Vlad, you didn't get it right either. It is impossible to write Google maps coordinates correctly in the forum unless you are a Senior member and can edit your post after posting, see Barri's report:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1150897&viewfull=1#post1150897]#2650[/url]
As for checking the locations you can do it yourself by opening Bali Monger Map, see my post below #3428.