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Afternoon release
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Dear all,...... I would like all other fellow mongers to cast a vote for what they think is the best place for an afteroon release in BKK, my favorite is EDEN'', what's yours?[/QUOTE]My best afternoon release I will get at SOL at Patpong II. A great place to "warm up" for an eventful evening/night.FV.
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[QUOTE=Loe101]Are Afro-Americans allowed in these Message Parlours.[/QUOTE]I'll take a stab at this; hopefully someone with more knowledge will answer better.I'd say yes, but unfortunately, Thais are very "color" conscious. As in anywhere you are judged by your appearance, here, you will be considered "African" as in "living in Africa". It would not surprise me if a girl asked for payment up front (JUST GUESSING), the Afro-[u]American[/u] part not immediately evident. But once you've been somewhere, word will get around that you're "OK", and things should be smoother if you return.In truth, I've never seen that many Blacks in MP's, but then again, I don't spend that much time in their "lobbies", so haven't seen all that many other customers :)Still, given the Thais preference for light skin (on themselves)... there may be some hesitance.Your payback is Japan, where, from what I've been told, the girls there go crazy for Blacks.
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Mango Apple
Just called Mango to see if Apple was available. She'd been on "holiday" for the last several weeks.Was told she'd left, not working anymore.Not quite sure if that's for today, or if she has found greener pastures...Certainly others available, but I was hoping my Mango card would have one punch from Apple. :)
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[QUOTE=The Pro]No need to pay any more, if you give her more then you are overpaying and why do you not pay 200 baht for your Big Mac, just give the cashier 200 baht and tell them to keep the money.[/QUOTE]No need to pay more, but obviously appreciated by the girl. Your analogy falls quite flat. At McDonalds it would just go into the cash register and there is no real relationship between the extra money and whether the greasy haired kid in the back is going to cook you a better burger. At Mango/Snow White/Places that shall not be named you can develop a direct relationship with the service provider. The service can be more or less friendly and enjoyable depending upon the attitude of the service provider. The extra couple of baht can set you up for a more pleasant experience with each successive visit. It isn't that you need to pay more, it is that you can choose to pay more to show appreciation and typically that appreciation will lead to even more pleasant experiences in the future. But I'm happy you don't tip. It makes me look even better.
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[QUOTE=Pita123]But I'm happy you don't tip. It makes me look even better.[/QUOTE]Damn, MY secret's out :)
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Yes, you pay more for exactly the same service level, thats great :) And really, who wants to keep going to see the same girl all the time when there are so many many many girls to try all over Bangkok.If it was so good fcuking the same girl all the time, more people would be happily married and the sex industry would not be booming :)Still yes, I am happy for the girls that you pay more than others, and also happy that I get the same service level but pay less.I assume you get the full on GFE each time, whatever you want to do you can, 1 or 2 rounds (or if they are very naughty then 3)As I keep saying, its only people who lack in other area's that feel the need to tip more in order to gain some benefit, however its benefit thats given in the most to nice people free of charge :)[QUOTE=Pita123]No need to pay more, but obviously appreciated by the girl. Your analogy falls quite flat. At McDonalds it would just go into the cash register and there is no real relationship between the extra money and whether the greasy haired kid in the back is going to cook you a better burger. At Mango/Snow White/Places that shall not be named you can develop a direct relationship with the service provider. The service can be more or less friendly and enjoyable depending upon the attitude of the service provider. The extra couple of baht can set you up for a more pleasant experience with each successive visit. It isn't that you need to pay more, it is that you can choose to pay more to show appreciation and typically that appreciation will lead to even more pleasant experiences in the future. But I'm happy you don't tip. It makes me look even better.[/QUOTE]
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confusion on tips
[QUOTE=The Pro]Oily MP's:1500 baht for FS for the girlNo need to pay any more, if you give her more then you are overpaying and why do you not pay 200 baht for your Big Mac, just give the cashier 200 baht and tell them to keep the money.No, oily MP's are 1500 baht for the girl if she provides FS.If she only provides BBBJ then its 1000 baht.If she only provides HJ then its 500 baht.[/QUOTE]But then, should the tip vary from place to place?I've been to cupidy, and she expected me to tip her 1000 for FS.While at victoria's, I left a tip of 1500 (she told me).I haven't been elsewhere. I would like to know the tip for say a girl at mango or snowhite for FS.Also what about eden then? (I plan to visit eden, later this month)Also, if you have a girl over at your room LT, should I pay her for the LT session plus a tip or just the LT session fee?
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Mango
Arrived BKK this morning and called Mango to have Apple come to my hotel for a 2 hour session. Was told she is no longer there but Oil and Dao are available. Looking at the site's photo of the girls I choose Dao. The problem when you air brush the girls photos it sets certain expectations. So, when I opened the door I was disappointed but she seemed to have a good attitude. She came in sat down and she had a beer and a little chat, her engrilsh not too good. Once the session began it was just ok, she moaned a lot and make all the right moves however it really was not working for me. Then after the first shot she showers and starts to get dressed. WTF? I say 2 hours is not finished and so starts to blow me again and says 'you give me tip'! She is dressed and blowing me asking for a tip and all I can do is laugh. It helps to keep a sense of humor about it all! At this point I was laughing and said we were done. No tip paid the fee and said thanks. Good bye. I've had a nap and am off to happy hour to meet up with my buddy for an evening of fun fun fun.
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I lived 7 months in Bangkok untill last month and I've enjoyed many Mango girls during my stay (filled some cards) and I've never tipped even once. But the service has always been TOP, the girls were always happy to see me get in and usually they recognised me by my voice whenever I called for a booking.Some of them I also met outside during their day off and were always happy to meet me.Maybe other places need a tip to get a better service (I don't have much experience as I was very happy with Mango and visited almost exclusively there for 7 months), but for sure not at Mango.Of course you are free to tip if you want to express your appreciation for a good service, but it's not needed to get a good service the next time too.If the girl doesn't like you, I doubt u'll get something more just by tipping some hundreds bhats.
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Phathunter.In general no but you must differentiate between "paid up front" and "pay the girl directly".Angels, Annies and the big soapy places are all "PAID UP FRONT" this meand charges of around 2000 Baht or more is paid before you go with the girl.This means she is already paid fully for sexual services.There is no need to pay her any more money. She might ask for it but you are under no obligation to pay it as you have paid "all in up front". If you are unsure and you pay nearly 2000 baht or more up front then clarify with the papasan or mamasan that that charge covers all fee's and no further payment is required.Then you come down to oily massage places, where you pay nothing up front and you pay for the time for massage on exit (EG 1 hour 400 baht, 1. 5 hours 600 baht and 2 hours 800 baht).In these places (like Mango, Tulip, Snow White, Thonglor, Orient etc.) you are expected to pay the girl cash in the room before you leave her "tip" or service fee). This is 1500 baht for FS.So in this scenario you would pay the girl on finished in the room 1500 baht cash, and then down to the cashier where you would pay the massage fee, say 600 baht for 1. 5 hours.Under no circumstances are you obligated to pay more as a "tip"!At "all in up front places" you do not need to pay more than you already pay prior to going to the room with the girl.At "pay after" places you do not need to give the girl any more than 1500 baht for her serivce before leaving the room, and then you pay the massage time at the deskEden is another one where you do not have to tip the girls, its all included.LT it depends where you take the girl from and in these cases its best to discuss with her first in advance over what the charges are. For a bar girl you pay the bar fine and then agree what her fee is for LT or ST.[QUOTE=Phathunter]But then, should the tip vary from place to place?I've been to cupidy, and she expected me to tip her 1000 for FS.While at victoria's, I left a tip of 1500 (she told me).I haven't been elsewhere. I would like to know the tip for say a girl at mango or snowhite for FS.Also what about eden then? (I plan to visit eden, later this month)Also, if you have a girl over at your room LT, should I pay her for the LT session plus a tip or just the LT session fee?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The Pro]Under no circumstances are you obligated to pay more as a "tip"![/QUOTE]It's true and no one here is arguing this. Some people CHOOSE to tip, some other choose NOT to. Why not leave it at the Punter's discretion and move on to a more interesting topic?
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[QUOTE=The Pro]Phathunter.LT it depends where you take the girl from and in these cases its best to discuss with her first in advance over what the charges are. For a bar girl you pay the bar fine and then agree what her fee is for LT or ST.[/QUOTE]Thank you, that clarifies certain issues, because I feel bad under-paying and worse over-paying. lol.Normally, I'd prefer to take a girl from either eden or massage parlor for LT to hotel.The girls at bars and clubs generally do no agree for LT, and quote absurd prices.Besides, would anyone point out a good non-service massage parlor, for a soothing relaxing healthy massage, as Ive sprained my hamstring and back.
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Akane
Hello, to everybodyI'm brand new here.I come regularly to BKK for 10 years now, and go occasionally to MPs.After a warm recommandation from a friend, I went to Akane, both location. I had nice time, but was always disappointed to get CBJ and never BBBJ. And I tried to bargain!And I come here and I red on all the reports on Akane you guys got BBBJ (even some had FS)!I'm mid 30s, average looking guy, clean. That did I do wrong? Please enlight me! What must I do to fully enjoy this nice place?Thanks for your answers
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[QUOTE=Tricky3000]Hmm, I thought what Soccer Mate wrote was pretty reasonable and accurate, too. I've been in his shoes exactly and thought the same thing about Rin (that is, I was a repeat customer who thought the last time that she's suddenly aged in appearance quite a bit from past times, moving her out of older 'MILF' range).While you take him to task, Tansak says what is essentially Soccer Mate's point, and you're suddenly agreeable to the point made.Well, I'm not entrenched on this board either (I post more frequently on a different one), so I guess I'll get slapped down, too. I just didn't think SM was out of line with what he said and your rebuke was unfair; instead it was exactly what I had experienced also. But, that's great she's still okay for you.[/QUOTE]Apologies if I have offended anyone- I am still a big fan of Rin's for the service that she has give me about a dozen times in the last 2 years- but I am not sure I will remain her loyal customer. That is my only point- and yes I have always been served drinks, her shop even if in a small bylane used to be well kept and always had more girls than just one herself. btw I did tell her that she needs to train more youngsters for her skills to be passed on- to which she agreed. Anyways if Rin continues to work for you its your choice- I just posted my thoughts on this forum which is what a forum is for. Thanks.
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Someone at Mango must have been reading about how inaccurate some of the girls on their site look.So, they've updated a few of them.Ice, for example, on the site, now looks a lot more like her in the flesh... which can only be a good thing as people will know what they are expecting (appearance-wise, anyway)