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[QUOTE=Jerkus]I met some locals through orkut, I got to Asuncion on a Wed at 2am and I met up with my new friends the next night for a couple of drinks. [/QUOTE]
Great report! Out of curiosity, did the girls you meet on Orkut speak English? My Spanish skills are non-existent and I'd like to find some regular girls to hang out with at night (dinner, clubs, etc.) just as friends (I'm happy to pickup the tab).
Thanks!
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Great reports. Thank you guys.
I've been to Asuncion on business and always thought it was boring, but I guess I just didn't get to the right places! Now I know a lot more.
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Asuncion in Perspective
Let me try to put some of this stuff in perspective for you guys. As usual, there are a lot of misconceptions here.
The reason people say Asuncion is boring is because it is. Asuncion is a small city. The population of the metro area is about 2 million, IIRC. That is 1/7 of Buenos Aires. And about half of that is poor. There isn't enough population to support enterprises like theaters, clubs, casinos, etc. So there is practically nothing to do, especially Sunday through Thursday. Friday and Saturday have the discos. There are karaoke bars. There are no good restaurants. Paraguay food is terrible. They like their food very plain and tasteless. I have tried to introduce people to food with taste but they generally don't like it. This is the only country I have seen that does not like Italian food. They eat pasta with a milk sauce, almost never tomato sauce, for example. They generally don't like even tomato sauce. The tourist attractions of Paraguay are generally nature type things, and they are not very notable, so there are no touristy things to do.
From a mongering perspective, one very important thing to know about Paraguay is that the income gap between the upper class and the lower class is almost at the level of some African countries. It is one of the highest in the Western Hemispere, if not the highest. Only Bolivia would give it competition. There actually is a lot of wealth in Paraguay, especially now. The people who own land are making a fortune exporting commodities. Beef, soybeans, sesame, corn, sugar cane, even charcoal are at record high prices. There is a huge influx of dollars coming into Paraguay, which is why the dollar has fallen so badly. The dollar has fallen from Gs 4.800 to Gs 4,000 since December. Some projections are that it will continue to fall to Gs 3.000 within a year. Add to this internal inflation of anywhere from 10%-20%/year(they lie about it here too), and Paraguay is getting more expensive rapidly. But all of this money is concentrated in the upper class. The lower classes do not benefit, because the dollars are mostly spent on imports and go right back out of the country.
The point of this is to know that the environment of the discos, especially those of the suburbs of Villa Morra and Carmelitas(Glam, Coyote,Kilkenny), are in wealthy areas. There are indeed a great number of young women in the 20-25 age group that go to these discos. They are looking for fun and boyfriends. And their families are wealthy, relatively. The houses in these suburbs run from $150,000 to $700,000. Many of the people who live here are politicians and government employees. Many of them earn a lot of money from corruption, but they still have it. These women want weddings, they don't want to sell themselves for short time sex. These discos are essentially no different from the discos of the US.
The same sort of thing applies to the discos in Fernando de la Mora, like Faces. These are not actually in Asuncion. F. de la Mora is the next town over, but is essentially a suburb. They are there because they closed all the discos in Asuncion in 2004. Faces used to be in Asuncion on Ave Brasilia. It reopened outside of town and a couple others opened nearby. In 2006, they started opening discos in Asuncion again, in the wealthy suburbs. There are also some new ones in el centro, but they don't get much business. Asuncion really screwed up here. They are not going to get customers back downtown from Carmelitas, etc easily. The strong bar closure law they passed in 2004 really screwed things up royally, and now they can't get the genie back in the bottle.
These discos generally are open Friday and Saturday, and a few on Thursday. Most people arrive between Midnight and 1:00 AM, and leave in the early morning, 5-6:00 AM.
Poor people generally don't go to these areas. For one, there is almost no public transportation to these areas after 9:00 PM. Only taxis, which are very expensive. There is a 30% taxi fare premium after 10:00PM and on Sundays and holidays. Taxi fare from Asuncion center to Faces at night is about $15 each way, $10 to Carmelitas. So one must go by private car. And the poor people don't have cars, so they generally can't go even if they wanted to go and try to pick up some money.
There are going to be exceptions, of course. But anyone who thinks they can come here and go to these discos and leave with a different woman every night is going to have a dull vacation here. In these areas, you are essentially in competition with well heeled locals. Read carefully the postings of the others here. Notice that no one scored with the clientelle of any of these places.
The way to meet poor women in Paraguay is the most difficult. One must meet them at work, in their neighborhoods, or through recommendations of others one meets in these places. In short, networking and hustling. Unfortunately, this is not a good method for a short vacation, as it is not a sure thing. It isn't even that easy for a resident.
The internet(Orkut) is not a good way, because anyone who can use computers and read and write well is going to be in the middle/upper class and not going to be on the program generally.
Interestingly, this same income gap situation is the reason that the apartments are still a good deal. Women can work in the apartments during the day, which helps with transportation. The wage scale for the poor is low, so the women will work for a low income. The income for a woman working in an apartment is generally less than GS 4,000,000 or $1,000/month. This is for working perhaps 10 hours/day, 6 days/week.
But as good a deal as the apartments are, it isn't worth coming for. How many times can one fuck a day in an apartment? If one saves $20/fuck on vacation, it still isn't worth wasting the rest of the time. It is far better to go to a place like Rio, Columbia, or BA; more expensive but also much more fun. Interestingly, it is this reasoning that is always quoted by the vacationing mongers in these places for not worrying about driving up prices. They are right in this regard. For a short vacation of 1-2 weeks, these places are a much better value. The cost per fuck is not really that important, relatively, for a vacationer.
I don't normally say much about all this, because people will just think I am dumping on Paraguay. Every once in a while, there is a burst of enthusiasm, and a lot of postings. I guess the current activity is caused in some part by the fall of the dollar in Brazil. But consider this: Nobody comes back. Look at all the postings here. People who come and post, even the ones who say how great it was, don't come back and post again. There is a good reason for this.
I am here again because I am obtaining residency here. It seemed to be the least of all evils, but now I am not so sure. I am wrestling with this decision right now, so this thinking is good for me. I am looking longingly at the Phillipines, but can't really decide to change, for a variety of complex reasons. Argentina is impossible because of the tax structure there, as is Uruguay. So I still am not sure of what I will ultimately do.
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[QUOTE=Is Guide]Great report! Out of curiosity, did the girls you meet on Orkut speak English? My Spanish skills are non-existent and I'd like to find some regular girls to hang out with at night (dinner, clubs, etc.) just as friends (I'm happy to pickup the tab).
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey Is Guide,
I met 5 people through orkut (I must have sent messages to at least 50 though!) and only two understood English, a girl and a guy. The girl works in the services industry and travels often to Brazil and Argentina, she gave me a tour of the city and I met with her once for drinks (she had a boyfriend, I still keep in touch with her). The guy was a programmer and even though he understood English I would always try to talk to him in Spanish, his English wasn't the best and I couldn't understand half the things he tried to say. I want to clarify that my approach on orkut wasn't to meet girls, my approach was to meet locals (guys or girls). I would ask them for bars/clubs to visit or things to do during the day. Out of the five people I met using this service, the guy turned out to be the best. We met with his crowd of friends a couple of times and I would end up meeting some of his girlfriends. And when hitting the clubs he turned out to be a good wingman.
Hey Lexton,
I hope that your post wasn't directed at me, if it was, I apologize. I wrote such a lengthy post describing my personal experience without making it clear that it was just that, my own personal experience. I guess that if it had not been for the girls that I met here in the US, and those five people from Orkut my story would have been completely different, since most of nights at the clubs/bar/restaurants always involved them and the people I met through them. Towards the end of my vacation I chilled with girls that I met at the clubs, but it all goes back to the same thing, I would have never went to those places by myself. I read your post and I completely agree with it. I would be lying if I said that I went to the club and hooked up with hotties on the first night. Out of all the nights that I went clubbing, only one girl gave me the impression that she would do something the first night, but I never found out since I got cocked blocked. I met a girl at Coyote and it took three dinners and a night out at liquid and glam to get one kiss! I met a lot of cool people on this trip and I still keep in touch with them. I will def go back and I just hope that my second trip turns out to be half as fun as this one.
Private 69,
I visited Playboy on a Tuesday night. I was looking the the strip club experience in PY. They only had 4 girls working (to be honest I had seen hotter girls at las casas). They had a three (maybe 2 or 4, sorry my vacation was in Feb, I don't remember the exact number) drink minimum and the girls only strip upon request. Its a nude dance and if remember correctly the girl said it was 100,000 guaranis for the dance. The girl that I was talking to said that she would leave for 250,000 for one hour plus hotel. She was cute but not worth all that money, so I passed on the offer.
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A well written post Lex with a lot of good background info.
But if one isn't looking for a one-night stand, are the girls in the clubs approachable just for a fun night out?
The privates seem like the logical place for p4p activity. But that doesn't mean you can't have "regular fun" at night too...
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Once again thanks, Jerkus and Lexton I found both your posts very interesting and informative, all the more so because you are coming from different perspectives.
I got the answer to my question about the best time to visit casas, which didn't really appear on the lists anywhere. In fact many of my friends prefer this schedule, I'm not sure I do, but I might be recommending Asuncion to them soon.
Jerkus' post was really useful, I certainly understood from the beginning that he was not really talking about P4P, but Lexton's comments are very useful especially if you've never been to Asuncion before.
At least now I know if I want to go to regular clubs which to ask taxis for and what time to go. I was in Asuncion in 2004 just after they closed all the bars and remember driving around in a taxi in the early hours of the morning with the guy I was traveling with, looking for places that were open. There was nothing except some kind of half-outdoor makeshift disco in Fernando de la Mora, which was actually fun but obviously not built as a club at all, very primitive. Now I know there are new places open so on Friday or Saturday I can ask taxi drivers for Faces, Coyote etc and have a reasonable chance of having a good time. Will pass on Playboy Club and probably won't waste time on Orkut.
What Lexton says is exactly right. About being "in competition with well heeled locals" however, I wouldn't necessarily regard this as a problem. You could also put it like this: "in competition with the same small closed group of people that the girls have known since they were kids". Young girls do have a tendency to go for something different, and in this crowd they are much more likely to speak English and indeed be keen to practice.
The good thing about being a foreigner is you have much easier access to all social groups than the locals do. A poor Paraguayan and rich Paraguayan will 99% never get together as a couple, never even go to the same bars or clubs. But as a foreigner you can do what you like, be open and honest about it, and locals will find it charming.
That is why I was interested that Jerkus said the girls in the clubs were very approachable. That is not something you will find so easily in bigger cities. Fully agreed, however, it takes time and effort.
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More Perspective
jerkus, you wrote a very nice post. sorry if i seemed to be referring to you, i wasn't. i was mainly referring to the general line of thinking of all the posts over the last month or so. i understood what you were saying perfectly, and understand your enthusiasm. i am probably more cranky than i should be because i am getting worried about my decision. i am actually waiting for my permanent residence, so i can get a cedula, etc. meanwhile the damned dollar has me really scared, it broke gs 4000 yesterday, to gs3980. this crap is getting out of hand. "bailout benanke" and his buddy paulson are trying to destroy what little is left of the economy, this time with welfare for the banks, giving them my money.
what this does to you goes like this: last year, newspaper abc color cost gs4000, the dollar was at gs5000, so it was $.80. now, it costs gs5000(a 25% increase) and the dollar is gs4000, so it is $1.25. an increase of 56%. and so it goes. diesel is $5.00/gallon, regular $4.50/gallon, and rising. and so on. many have the impression paraguay is very cheap, and it is for some things. other things are cheap but of questionable quality. that tends to keep it low on the expensive cities list. so i don't know how far this goes. argentina has bad inflation also, but at least the peso has held and even fallen a little, around ap315/dollar. so i am regretting a little coming here from argentina. after i get my cedula, i can travel again.
as jerkus says the girls are likely to be at least as approachable as girls in discos anywhere. for a fun night out, the question would be: to do what? she is already having a fun night out. your only real option is more of the same, in this or another disco. there isn't much else. and if you can't speak spanish, it is unlikely you would be able to communicate well enough to set this up, and appear interesting. she is not likely to be overwhelmed by your money.
my main issue is to point out that these places are not like help in rio, a disco with working women. and i sorely wish there would be such a place in asuncion. we need it desperately. any girl working in these discos is not going to be obvious. very few are working, they are just looking for fun. and you have to be a little careful about being offensive. interestingly, i also think the apartment scene has destroyed the club scene completely, and really hurt the street scene. again, in 2004, there was some club action in karim and playboy, and some bars on colon. but it was starting to die. there was no internet, and the apartment scene was there but not really well developed. now the apartments are well developed and well advertised, so why would the locals put up with club prices?
if you looked at my old posts, you would see that i have been frustrated about the situation with meeting women for some time. i don't like the apartments, because i only like spinners, and they are practically non-existent there. so i have to look harder. when i first came here in 2004, it was totally different. the downtown was much more active and interesting. with that damned bar law, it just died. there are some attempts now to revive it, but these are not likely to do much for mongering. the women would come back to the city if there were more clients, but i don't see that happening soon.
this issue of transportation is more important than you would think. the women don't like to work were they live and play, so they want to work somewhere else. i had a friend who lived in lambare near the terminal, that used to work 4 years ago on av mariscal lopez, 4+ km away. she said that she would have to stop working because the taxi fares had increased and that she might only earn gs50,000-gs100,000 in a night, but the cab fare back home was gs30,000($7.50). it just wasn't worth it. so she gave it up. i asked her why she didn't work near the terminal area, and she said it was too close to home, she might be recognized. this may explain in part why almost all the women have disappeared from av mariscal lopez, and there is much less downtown. i think the taxi drivers really hurt themselves and all of the bar businesses when they put in the 30% night premium in 2005.
i am thinking about this again because if i get a place to live, i need a place with good public transportation if i want women to be able to come visit me. there are actually very few places outside of the main city center around streets palma to haeda that have decent access from most areas(with no more than 2 buses). and these places are either very expensive or very commercial, unfortunately. and living around those centro streets is not very attractive, as it is declining rapidly. so i am hassling with where to live. the areas carmelitas, jara and that whole section north of av espaņa, where there are so many good homes, are hard. one has to do 3 buses and possibly change buses downtown to get there from nemby, san lorenzo, capiata, ypane, itaugua and other suburban areas where many poor people live. and after 8:00 pm, forget it.
i want to emphasize again how small asuncion really is. it is huge in area, because it is all 1 and 2 story construction. there are few apartment buildings, and they are expensive. but in all of this area there are only 4 very small shopping malls. the original city center has declined to a developing slum. the stores are generally not pretty and spread out. new commercial growth has mostly been in the wealthy suburbs, very spread out. for the lower classes, there are an enormous number of barrios constructed and being constructed in the areas all around, for a distance of 30 km. they typically take a piece of land and divide it into 12m x 30m(360m2) lots, with dirt streets. a major improvement is to upgrade a street to stone. there is no public sewage, only private tanks in these. a stranger is not welcome in these, and they are dangerous. public transportation from these barrios is marginal. this also serves as the paraguay version of public housing, rather than apartment complexes. rep001tered here and there in all this are other barrios with more upper class homes.
there are no pedestrian streets like florida in buenos aires. the wealthy paraguayans go to argentina and brazil to shop for much quality merchandise. so another of the reasons it is boring is that it is so hard to get anywhere and find anything, nothing is concentrated.
i guess i would echo what rock harders said. if you are a reasonably young spanish speaking person, you can still come here and have a good time. with effort, you can fool around with the women from the discos. with more effort, you can probably get down with some of the poor non-pros. transportation is a huge problem. anybody can get laid in the private apartments during the day. but rio, buenos aires or lima this ain't.
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Sounds like a good approach. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Jerkus]Hey Is Guide,
I met 5 people through orkut (I must have sent messages to at least 50 though!) and only two understood English, a girl and a guy. The girl works in the services industry and travels often to Brazil and Argentina, she gave me a tour of the city and I met with her once for drinks (she had a boyfriend, I still keep in touch with her). The guy was a programmer and even though he understood English I would always try to talk to him in Spanish, his English wasn't the best and I couldn't understand half the things he tried to say. I want to clarify that my approach on orkut wasn't to meet girls, my approach was to meet locals (guys or girls). I would ask them for bars/clubs to visit or things to do during the day. Out of the five people I met using this service, the guy turned out to be the best. We met with his crowd of friends a couple of times and I would end up meeting some of his girlfriends. And when hitting the clubs he turned out to be a good wingman.
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Thanks a lot Lexton for your point of vue.
After reading your text, I will take some time to think about it if it would be better for me to go and stay in Barranquilla or some other places in South America.
I already know B.A., Lima, Guayaquil and Rio (and I mean I stay in all these places more than 2 weeks) so I think that would be interesting to live a few weeks or a few months in a place where nearly no tourists stay a long time.
However that's nice to hear the disadvantages of the place, so I will ponder about them.
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Telling it Like It Is
Thanks for the comments, Valpone. They do make me realize that my posts seem extremely negative. What they are trying to be, however, is a realistic picture. If you look at all my posts, here in WSG and in ArgPriv, you will see that I tell it exactly the way it is, and yes, I try to point out the risks. For some reason, people have a tendency to be cheerleaders for a place, especially if they had a good time, and people get overly enthusiastic about a new adventure, me included. But you will also see that later travelers confirm what I have said.
I guess one reason I do this is that I feel it is important. That damned Lonely Planet guide could have gotten me killed in Puerta Plata, Dominican Republic back in 2000. Because of the way they write "tell only the good side of everything, even if it presents a totally erroneous image", I had no idea how much trouble I was in arriving by bus in the late afternoon with no hotel reservation, and only the Lonely Planet guide. With the help of a cop and more or less honest cabby I got through it OK. But I swore I would never again rely on a travel guide. How was I to know how much of a dump most of Puerta Plata was, especially around some of the hotels they had listed? The place I ultimately stayed wasn't in the guide, and was better than the stuff they had. And I was out of there and off to Sosua after two days.
The other side is that to be successful, one needs to deal with the reality of a place. For the right type of person, Paraguay can be OK. I enjoy Las Vegas but think it is too much, and tend to prefer things more rustic and unpretentious. And "unpretentious" may be a good word to describe the bulk of Paraguay.
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Asuncion is boring
I have lived off and on in Lambare since 2005. Unfortunately its been off since June 18 2007. Overall, its one of the most boring capital cities I've been to in SA. Its an utter dung heap. The center is ok but its mostly a shit hole everywhere else. Like has been mentioned, theres no good hangout spot like copacabana or florida/lavalle/recoleta in Argentina. The casas are the one good things about asuncion. Basically one of the few good things. Even the casas arent tottally awesome. Heck, I would say there is a 50/50 chance for me to leave a casa thinking damn that was a nice chick. There are hotties in the casas but sometimes the fotos on asunsex get you worked up and then you get a more busted up person when you arrive. Other times you get a wonderfull treat. Like has also been mentioned before, if your not shagging everysingle day in the casas then asuncion is boring. Even after you do shagg you have like 23-23. 5 hours left with nothing to do in a boring shithole. My case is a bit different, I married a paraguayita, so I have an excuse to hang out in such a boring spot. But I have kids and honestly don't want them hanging out on cobble stone diarrhea streets. Violence isn't such a concern but people down there seem to have a different perspective about accidents, cars, falling roof shit from neighbors enormous potholes in streets. I don't know, If I could live there believe me I would take it in a second over the stresssed out lifestyle in the states but I wouldn't want to try and make a living down there. If and when I'm in a position to live in SA again I think we would live in Bs As, even though that city isn't perfect either. I wish they could take the white women of paraguay and Bs As and the low violence of parguay and transplant that to copacabana and erase all the lowsy tourists, peanut peddlers etc. , then I'd have my perfect shangri la!
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[QUOTE=Lexton]Jerkus, you wrote a very nice post. Sorry if I seemed to be referring to you, I wasn't. I was mainly referring to the general line of thinking of all the posts over the last month or so. I understood what you were saying perfectly, and understand your enthusiasm. I am probably more cranky than I should be because I am getting worried about my decision. I am actually waiting for my permanent residence, so I can get a cedula, etc. Meanwhile the damned dollar has me really scared, it broke Gs 4000 yesterday, to Gs3980. This crap is getting out of hand. "Bailout Benanke" and his buddy Paulson are trying to destroy what little is left of the economy, this time with welfare for the banks, giving them my money.
[/QUOTE]Hey Lexton (or any local in Asuncion),
Question, as a local do you know of any escort agencies/girls in Asuncion (the model type)? One of the nights that I went out drinking (Coyote) there were two guys with approx 8-10 girls. My friend tried talking to one of the girls and the guy told him that she was with him. To make a long story short, the guys were really cool and they invited us to drink with them. With the exception of one girl, they were all really hot (not to mention that they were all wearing really, really sexy provocative outfits)! I was talking to one of the guys and he tells me that they both own a modeling agency and that the girls were their models. I bought the whole story. We leave Coyote to go to Faces, outside the club these guys start touching the girls all over, couple of the girls are lifting their dresses, taking pictures half naked! The two guys were big dudes, and under normal circumstances they would need some serious game to even land an avg looking girl (not trying to be shallow here, just to put things in perspective). At faces, I buy the first round of drinks. One of the girls starts giving everyone lap dances (unfortunately for me, it was the ugly one). Towards the end of the night one guy starts making out with a really hot brunette (a 9.5) and the other one with a blonde with bright blue eyes (a 9.999)!!! Since that night I've been wondering if they were "models" or escorts, because I want one!!!!
Thanks in advance.
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[quote=Jerkus]Question, as a local do you know of any escort agencies/girls in Asuncion (the model type)? --snip-- he tells me that they both own a modeling agency and that the girls were their models. --snip--- Since that night I've been wondering if they were "models" or escorts, because I want one!!!![/quote]
I guess I would respond with a question: "Are the women posing in the mens magazines "models", "escorts", or "providers"?". Answer: "That depends on how much money and influence(especially influence over their career potential) that you have.
More directly, it is very possible that the quys DO have a model agency. There are a variety of these model agencies in Paraguay and like all these types of business, I am sure there are some more legitimate than others. I personally don't know of any illegitimate ones. There have been newspaper articles(some are here in old posts, IIRC) about prosecutions of model agencies for pimping and exploitation. The clients were indicated to be well connected, powerful politicos. Any illegitimate ones are likely to be somewhat discreet. This area is always ripe for exploitation of the women desiring to be models. In ArgentinaPrivate, there is a whole thread(something about "Living the Dream") posted by someone giving progress reports on an agency they created for just this sort of thing.
There are agencies that hire a lot of "promotoras" for various advertising promotions also. These women are popular in supermarkets, especially on Friday and Saturday nights. I think a big reason for their popularity is that they serve as part of the supermarket security against theft. Many large supermarkets have practically one person for every aisle some nights. These women probably have potential for conquest, but it is not a sure thing because 1. They are earning a modest living already, and 2. They are likely to be aspiring to some higher career.
On the discos, there is another possibility. There was a newspaper article a while back talking about a disco in Fernando de la Mora(the town) that was NOT one of the ones on Mariscal Lopez(Faces, Z). It seems that one of the young guys was murdered after leaving the disco, IIRC. They interviewed a model whom he had hired to do a "Parade" for him. They showed a photo of 2 young couples sitting watching a model parade in lengerie if front of them(if one was the guy murdered, who took the photo and why?). From the couches in the scene, and the drinks and bottles on the table in front of the couple, they had to be in the VIP area of the disco. The model said that she did not know the guy, that he paid her to do a "parade" and because she is a professional, she did. I got the distinct impression that this was a service of the disco, having models that for money would do a "parade". As to whether there is potential for more, go back to my original point.
"Dougus" used to post here on this subject. He was trying to find models available here in Paraguay, and claimed to have some success in getting connected to some. From the tone of the whole thing, I gather it involved a lot of searching and money.
My final comment on this would be: "Why in the world would you want to get involved with an aspiring model?" If you DO NOT have significant influence over her potential career, any service you get is almost certain to be terrible. She doesn't want money, because an advance in her career is worth more than you even have, let alone are willing to pay. Further, she would have to be VERY protective of her body, because it represents what she sees as a potential BIG OPPORTUNTY. And the more successful the model is, the worse this is going to be. To go with a world class model, you would have to deal with her agent, her insurance company, and her lawyer, in that order. The contract would include lots of potential liability on your part, and very limited activities.
I would suggest to you that the way to have a much better time is to go with a woman who is working as a provider because she wants to avoid cleaning toilets in some other woman's house for a living. This gets back to my other posts about the difficulty of meeting these women also, because of problems of being able to approach them(getting to where they are). The method provided by the market for this is the private apartments.
There are a 2 or 3 ads that consistently appear in Diario Popular, talking about high end women for from $us100 to $us1000. I haven't even thought about calling one of these, because I seriously doubt that they will be much more than the apartment women. If you come back, call them all and tell us how it went.
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Thanks for the response Lexton.
The girls did not have the runway model "look". They were hot, but more like the high-end escort/pornstar type of hot. I guess I just wanted to know if there are escorts or agencies with hot girls, girls that will go out drinking with you and then go back to your hotel. Or maybe independent girls that provide the service for the right price, but not like the "casa" girl, one that probably sees 10-30 guys a day (but def not an aspiring model, for all the reasons you listed). I will stick to the casa girls and "bandidas".
Thanks again.
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Claus Prod. I
Fortune favored a return to Asuncion for a few days. In between business and work, my goal was to hit some more of the privado action that was the golden highlight of my last visit here.
Being located in the centro area, I decided to try out Claus Producionnes I off of Estrella street. It is just a few blocks away from the corners of Unicentro department store, Granados Park Hotel, Las Margaritas Hotel and Biggest restaurant. Easily within walking distance. I called and verified the address with the one listed on the Asuncion privado list and was told they are on the 2nd floor, not the 1st floor.
A very short walk later, I made it to the building and walked to the 2nd floor, where a handwritten "segundo piso" was written on the door. I rang the door bell and a very openly gay man with a pink shirt answered. He asked me to wait in the hallway while he got the girls ready and closed the door. I waited for a few minutes then was let inside to the waiting room where I was asked to wait again for about 10 minutes. All this waiting was beginning to feel like I was in an airport awaiting a delayed flight!
Finally the gay guy appeared and introduced 3 girls. 2 were certainly doable, the other not so much. I only had time for 30 minutes which was 70, 000 Guarani. I chose Pamela, black haired, fair skinned and small frame who claimed she was 23 which seemed about right. I was then led by the gay guy out the door, into the hallway, and down to the 1st floor where the bedrooms were and asked to wait in the room until Pamela arrived.
The room was decently furnished and in case you forget which privado you are in, a big "Claus Producciones" is written on the wall to remind you. After waiting probably about another 10 minutes, Pamela finally arrived. I didn't even shower yet but she began to undress me and got right to it.
However, nothing spectacular with this session. Just an average, check in the box type of session. Decent CBJ. No DFK and resisted when I tried. Definitly not a GFE. Just a lunch time quickie.
It may have been all the waiting around I did in this privado that spoiled my mood. I later checked the asunsex website and can say that the photos are of her. Her ad mentioned she was 20 and that she did anal but she never offered it up and I didn't ask (perhaps I should've). At any rate, I wouldn't see myself coming back to this privado anytime soon. I'd much rather navigate the unchartered privados that I have not visited yet, or seek a repeat with one of the great experiences I had my last visit here. Still, at 70, 000 Guarani (about US$17 or 11 Euros), I can afford to experiment and shop around.