Khreshatic and McDonalds - supersize me.
First off, me a cynic, never! ;) My skill level/experience is well documented both on this board and real life with the girls in Kiev.
2nd, the girls you are talking about trolling Khreshatic with a brew in their hand and hanging out at McDonalds are 2nd rate at best. Anyone with even an average amount of skill/looks could fuck a new one of these girls a day. I often have these girls approach me while I am walking on Khreshatic or waiting for a date. I almost fucked one on my last trip but quite couldn't bring myself to do it - she was young (young to the point she wouldn't tell me her age - down IT!) and a 4.5. Start hitting on the 7+ girls on Khreshatic and see how well you do. BTW prime strolling time on Khreshatic is from 1600-2000 on the weekdays during the spring/fall.
Having strip club experience at every corner of the globe - those penguins down in Antarctica put on a mean show, I stand by my assessment of your strip club encounter.
As far as the Ukrainian/American girl putting out for sex thing, I guess you guys never went to College/University in the US. If I said it once I said it a thousand times. The only difference between a FSU girl and an American girl is that the FSU dresses to impress (the male) and is generally slender.
Jack, there are quite a few places in the US and most other Western countries where the only nightly option is drink and/or fuck. They tend to be very rural and/or depressed (economically)
[QUOTE=Jack 2004] Sex is a nice and cheap way of enjoying life, and they didn’t have so many alternatives. My friends behave like you and have quite a success, but you must be quite[/QUOTE]
100% agree totally with medved99
I was 30 times in ukraine and I stop to count girls who slept with me. It was not diffficult to find freebie girls. I just respected and smiled with them. I didn't spent so much money.
What I think about be itch and hook from kiev:
When I was in river palace, I stayed only 20mn because it was full of tourist and girls look like ''girls under narcotics". One felt down near me and was totally sick. Don't forget. In ukraine lot of aids.
So. For what do you go to RP? Ok. I understand you. If you come in kiev and stay only few days. Why not.
Go in this website fritzryan.com you could see some of my ex sasha (work in strip tease club), lena (porno star), kseniya. And some others I met in kiev/ I didn't pay lot of money because I understood they were be itch. So I lied them and slept for free because they believed I was important director in international compagny. If girls wants money. Be actor have expensive mobile phone, go in good restaurant, and fuck her quickly!
But believe me. If you are normal man, with normal face. You can meet many good girls in ukraine and have fun for free and many fall in love.
Good luck and save your money
Stupid ACTIONS by STUPID.....
[QUOTE=Iggy28]I was 30 times in ukraine..... some others I met in Kiev/ I didn't pay lot of money because I understood they were be itch. So I lied them and slept for free because they believed I was important director in international compagny.....[/QUOTE]Fawkers like you!
When I 1st came in 2000 and up until I moved here in 2003, a non UKR guy would attract ladies like flies to honey. But these ACTIONS like you describe have 'jaded' these girls!
Its all about respect and you don't have it! Please stay away!!
LS "guardign the door" to the Best Club in Town
Could someone translate this please?
Hi: I am wondering if one of russian language experts on the site could convert the following messages into russian (of course written in English?).
I just started learning a bit of russian, this would help me when I am in Kiev.
Thanks in advance.
1. Would like to join me for a dinner?
2. Could you come to my apartment?
3. How much do you charge per night?
4. How much do you charge per day?
5. How do you say (100, 200, 300, 400, 500 etc.)
6. Do you do oral without condom?
7. My apartment address is ...
8. My phone number is ...
9. What is your address / phone number?
10. What is your name?
11. Can we go to a restaurant?
12. You are beatiful
13. When will you come to my apartment?
14. I will wait for you