German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Breadman;1292371]Why? The club sucks, why would you want to read the odd post or two about how bad the club sucked? Lets leave it forgotten in that other section.[/QUOTE]Too funny. May be if we had more posts on the German threads (which are more read and written) , Like Jaymondor's warning about Magnum, I would have skipped Yin-Yang. BTW, I agree that the club sucks. I did post a follow up though. I did something very usual there and had the time of my like and that has nothing to do with the club.

Well, this is the topic that always interesting anytime, anywhere. As I read international or local forum, even in my country there's always debates about this. For example if on going price is US$ 30 / fuck / hour in my country, always there's some men who pay more or give tip, which is good for the girls, but become complaint from other mongers that it will be raised the price or if we don't give tips so the service will go down. Locals / regular customer want to stay on the basic price. Even some foreigner (in Bali) ask other to don't ruin the base price by too much pay / tips. Remember that locals and regulars customer will live day by day here and they pay the service more often.

In China / PRC, a tip is not expected. Do we have to change the girls habit? If they (working girls) work outside their country, maybe it's okay, but why we disturb the system in their own country. One country (Singapore) back then even have a campaign / policy "No tip, please". Some still work in many sector untill now, even in some (not all) restaurants, which is not the case in western countries.

After read report of our friend in FKK Artemis, who pays E 290 for session with a girl, it make me wonder is that better thing to do? Yes, I understand that in your country that is much cheaper price for P4P. Maybe the girls will like you more. But you are not in your country anymore, why not behave like locals. Yes, you paid, then go home. Maybe just come to germany once / twice a year, so that expense is not a big problem. Well, I think for that amount of money, I will choose to call an escort, rather than annoying other mongers. If we can stay low (budget) why should we pay more and ruin the price structure?

Sorry if my English can not explain this clearly, but I hope you understand what I mean.

[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1292910]How much do we have to pay or tip? Regular vs non regular[/QUOTE]Ciao Hbengkok, you "have" to pay only the rate that goes to the girl. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nobody can tell you if you can or cannot leave a tip. Period.

Nobody can tell me for sure.

Personally I leave tips everywhere. Restaurants, bars, taxis, fkk is not different. As long as I'm getting a good service, and I'm not in a bad mood.

That's in my dna. That's how I was grown up, although not specifically trained for fkks.

Trying to trigger a regulars vs. Not regulars game is a stupid thing to do, imo.

I would find it ridiculous for someone getting upset about me giving tips or not, but if that's the case, I couldn't care less.

That's where I stand.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1292981]Ciao Hbengkok, you "have" to pay only the rate that goes to the girl. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nobody can tell you if you can or cannot leave a tip. Period.

Nobody can tell me for sure.

Personally I leave tips everywhere. Restaurants, bars, taxis, fkk is not different. As long as I'm getting a good service, and I'm not in a bad mood.

That's in my dna. That's how I was grown up, although not specifically trained for fkks.

Trying to trigger a regulars vs. Not regulars game is a stupid thing to do, imo.

I would find it ridiculous for someone getting upset about me giving tips or not, but if that's the case, I couldn't care less.

That's where I stand.

Kimino[/QUOTE]. But it does not harm to understand the local culture in which you happen to be at a given time. There is a certain degree of arrogance to believe that the way you do things has to be the best everywhere you go, regardless of local customs.

For instance, if you leave a tip in a restaurant in japan, you risk insulting people there. When I forgot some change once, the guy ran after me in the sreet to give it back to me. And as far a Wgs are concerned, the culture in Japan is not to leave them a tip, but offer them gifts, flowers, box of chocolate etc.

To go back to FKK, you are right theat there are no rules, so, sure, tip as much as you wish. I, and I think most punters though would prefer to reward good performance by repeat business, and most girls seem to have understood that.

My 2 cents only.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1292766]Too funny. May be if we had more posts on the German threads (which are more read and written) , Like Jaymondor's warning about Magnum, I would have skipped Yin-Yang. BTW, I agree that the club sucks. I did post a follow up though. I did something very usual there and had the time of my like and that has nothing to do with the club.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you search all of the last dozen posts on Yin Yang then and see my negative review on the club back in September then? Its not like it was hidden amongst all the glowing reviews of the club, it was 9 posts down from the most current comment on the club.

Its just too bad that building wasn't built over the border and had been available to the owners of goldentime 'back when'. I did visit twice several years back when YY had a very good lineup when some girls from phg and gt moved over there for a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1293002]. But it does not harm to understand the local culture in which you happen to be at a given time. There is a certain degree of arrogance to believe that the way you do things has to be the best everywhere you go, regardless of local customs.[/QUOTE]Ciao Dreams.

Didn't mean to be arrogant, sorry if it came out that way. I have total respect about local cultures wherever I go. Didn't know about the Japan thing and would have fell in the same trap as you, but once learned the lesson I would have acted in the right way.

But I don't think german culture is against tips, nobody ever gets offended in restaurants, taxis, or such. People appreciate it a lot, like in almost any other place.

Here it's a completely different thing. People don't want that girls get tipped so that prices stay low, it's more like protectionism. If that's the word (I doubt it) in english.

And it's for this reason that I wouldn't accept pressure on this point.

But it's not very important.

I do repeat with the girls I like, although I have less opportunities than a regular and I always treat the girls with total respect, hoping they might get a bit of fun too, or at least have a decent time. When I feel to give a tip I give it. Girls are happy, I am happy.

Someone is not happy about this? Not my problem.

Kimino

I see [B]Hbengkok's[/B] point of view but I agree with Kimino. I did not read the Artemis post but E 280 for one session is stupid. I paid E 350 for 8 hours of company and 4 on hour sessions and that is probably borderline stupid. .

This is a service industry and by definition the service provided is variable. As in any service business, additional compensation is not unreasonable for a good level of service that is provided beyond the norm. If we do not tip them, what incentive would they have to have to go beyond the expected mechanical BJ and sex? So, if you get a GFE experience and good company a tip is well deserved and I agree with [B]Kimino[/B] that no one other than the person that experiences it can judge what that is worth.

Having said that, my favourite at GT (NRW) said that she has a regular that pays her E 200 for one hour and she said,"He thinks he can buy my affection with money and I don't like that". That says a lot.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1293279]Having said that, my favourite at GT (NRW) said that she has a regular that pays her E 200 for one hour and she said,"He thinks he can buy my affection with money and I don't like that". That says a lot.[/QUOTE]That's really break my heart (LOL).

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1293279]I see [B]Hbengkok's[/B] So, if you get a GFE experience and good company a tip is well deserved and I agree with [B]Kimino[/B] that no one other than the person that experiences it can judge what that is worth.[/QUOTE]Well, my tipping policy is here:

1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration . No tips.

2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.

3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.

4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.

5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.

Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.

So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.

[QUOTE=Sucker17; 1292037]I'll be having a layover in Düsseldorf. Will arrive a Friday, last week of September at Düsseldorf airport around 6 PM. I will leave with the next flight Saturday morning at 7:20 AM. I really don't know what to do all the night waiting for my next flight.) LOL.

Of course just kidding, as this will give me a window of opportunity to visit a club in the NRW area. As I am a complete newbie to clubs in the Düsseldorf area, I would ask you guys:

- What club should I visit, given the timetable, preferably close to the airport? Dolce Vita, Blue Note, LR, PHG?

- Is it possible to come with a suitcase and leave it in a storage room in these clubs or is it difficult, or would I be better off leaving any luggage in one of the airport lockers?

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]LR of course, open until late and doable by public transport. Only about half an hour's train ride from Dusseldorf city.

I'm not American so I don't tip, but If It's €75 and I have no change I will give her €80 and not expect change.

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1293381]Well, my tipping policy is here:

1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration. No tips.

2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.

3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.

4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.

5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.

Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.

So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1293381]Well, my tipping policy is here:

1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration. No tips.

2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.

3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.

4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.

5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.

Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.

So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.[/QUOTE]I tip almost the same way. Max 20 E for one hour session. More often I tend to buy them drinks (depending on the place) , and share my stash which they appreciate.

[QUOTE=Jerboa;1293409]I'm not American so I don't tip, but If It's €75 and I have no change I will give her €80 and not expect change.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Nationality, I asked three girls at GT who I have been to the rooms few times with, who is their favourite customers based on Nationality?

One girl said she has no preference. I insisted but she did not pick. She said she does not care where they are from as long as they are clean and don't smell. One girl surprisingly said, Americans because they are not too aggressive and they tip well. The third said Asians because they have small dicks and they come fast. .

Both girls said, they generally do not prefer Turkish men and one of the girl is Turkish.

Just passing on third person comments which I thought were interesting.

Well, I agree with Jymondor typing policy for FKK. More or less what I 've done and I think it's fair tips.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1293527]One girl said she has no preference. I insisted but she did not pick. She said she does not care where they are from as long as they are clean and don't smell. One girl surprisingly said, Americans because they are not too aggressive and they tip well. The third said Asians because they have small dicks and they come fast. .

Just passing on third person comments which I thought were interesting.[/QUOTE]What about small dick, come fast and tip well. That's every girls favourite, ha ha.