How not to get a good massage
I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.
The first, from Craigslist, was an agent who told me 300 for 2 hours. Good price and the ad was really convincing. Soon a girl who wasn't pictured in the add and didn't have the same voice as the phone agent arrived. After 30 minutes of poor massage she flipped me over and started upselling to sex or at least a hand job. I declined so she left in a pout after 45 minutes with money for 2 hours in her pocket.
The second was from a ChinaDaily massage ad. After 10 minutes she flipped me over and offered to do a blow job. Tempting but no. I had other plans. She continued with the reasonable massage with me on my back and periodically resumed the upsell. I was determined not to go for it but she encouraged me to play with her boobs so that was the end. I got a very nice BBBJ cim and she still did foot massage for a while after. She left after an hour with 800.
The third, also from a ChinaDaily massage ad, started upselling after 30 seconds. When I declined as I had a date later and only wanted massage, she became insulting to my face. She wasn't the brightest light so she probably thought I didn't get it. Next she anounced that she was going to leave if I didn't want sex. The add I had answered was clearly offering high quality massage. I told her I paid for massage and if she left I would complain to her agent. She sat on the bed poking indifferently at me for another half an hour then left taking 90 minutes pay for 45 minutes work. I was going to throw her out anyway.
My guess is these are more or less bbs girls who know they can chagre tourists twice the price for the same job. I'm having better luck at legit massage places.
Any advice?
Get a good "Massage" from freelancer?
[QUOTE=Five Aces;1197145]I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.[/QUOTE]I just help a Chinese friend to built up webpage for independend escort / massage ladies in Shanghai, so I start to check. All the ads from craigslist and other pages. First check the picture with google search to find out, if it can be real, than put all phone numbers in a database, so I can see if the number is used for different ads. Than later my Chinese friend call and met them to find out if they look like the picture. Till now I checked 487 "private" ads. The result: around 50 pictures I could not find the "real" source, more than 430 I could find out, where they have stolen the picture. But I guess at least 150 of them say very clear: 100% real picture, it is me and so on! My friend than call all the numbers (she reached around 300 till now) and about 10 are real independend girls, the others all are agencies. Than she try to meet the girls, only 5 meet her (so I think rest also agents). Not even one looked like the picture (even they told her on phone it`s real). I also checked all the pictures from around 30 Escort agencies in the web, half of them tell you the picture are for sure real, but not even from one of this agencies I did not find the japanese page where they have stolen the pictures!
So I think situation is like that:
1) If you contact massage or escort you find in the web, you will get a agent in 98% of all cases.
2) Agency will offer you 300 for a massage, than later "upgrade" to at least 1000, most time 2000-3000.
3) They will normaly not send any beautiful girl to your place.
4) If you are lucky and you find a real independent girl, this girl will be much more attractive, but she will charge at least 2000 for a short time job.
4) You have a 0. 0 chance to get the girl from the picture, whatever the description or the phone contact will tell you about it!
So first forget you will ever get what you see on any picture. No chance for it! And most time the ladies also will be not beautiful at all. Second, don`t believe any fixed price. If the Ladies come, they will start upselling. There are so many nice girls you can find in the bars, in Manhattan or in KTVs and they will stay the night with you for less than 2000, but ALL ways to find this girls on the Internet don`t work. So I think the best way to get what you are looking for is to go out and catch some for yourself or go to a Sauna.
Home delivery service is not a serious business in Shanghai at the moment.
I had similar experience with Craig'sList
[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197145]I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.[/QUOTE]All she wanted was the upsell, which I refused as she was about a 3/10. After annoying me for half and hour and rubbing my dick and sulking I told her to leave. She wanted more and I just opened up the Ad and pointed out she wasn't the person in it, and that her rates were for 90 minutes and she wasn't giving me half the service, so just paid her half, then sent a text to the phone number to tell them so. Never heard anythign more.
Next time I tried I gave a general address and asked them to call when they arrived. When the number did not come up as the one I originally called, I ignored the number and never bothered to answer. Later the original number called me back and asked why I didn't answer. I told them that I did not recognize the number and did not take unkonow callers. When they offered to send someone else, I told them to forget it.
I have noticed that a lot of pictures from enjoycity appear in many craig's list photos, so guess they are stealing a few from there and other websites.
7 out of 10 on the trust scale
[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1197156]There are so many nice girls you can find in the bars, in Manhattan or in KTVs and they will stay the night with you for less than 2000, but ALL ways to find this girls on the Internet don`t work. QUOTE]
So I took your advice. Last night I cancelled an appointment made with an online agent and instead had a really good time with a Vietnamese girl I meet at Manhattan. She said that of 10 girls 7 would do bad things like cheat or rob you.
It might seem obvious but the girls hanging around outside Malone's and Manhattan who try to drag you off by your dink are also pickpockets.
My regular girlfriends here are good girls who I trust.