No matter where you stay, you need a rental car. A single trip from Hilton to Mirage can run you us$20~us$25. A decent rental car costs us$50~60 per day. Driving is easy and safe.
Dutchman
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No matter where you stay, you need a rental car. A single trip from Hilton to Mirage can run you us$20~us$25. A decent rental car costs us$50~60 per day. Driving is easy and safe.
Dutchman
If you are willing to settle for a subcompact, Budget offers the Yaris for $192 a week offseason and I think about $230 during peak times.
Also, Curacao offers numerous "apartment" complexes that offer quality accommodation, local flavor, and full kitchens for prices much cheaper than the Marriot, Hilton, Lion's Dive, etc. ($45-60 per night).
I have stayed at the Flamingo Park and Limestone Apartments and recommend them both. The Flamingo Park is somewhat isolated in the center of the island and offers bright, new, clean apartments surrounded by fabulous landscaping featuring tons of cactii and tropical birds, the occasional iguana, and a neat little swimming pool. It is five minutes away from two of the nicest beaches and dive areas on Curacao (Porto Marie and Cas Abou), and an easy fifteen minutes from Campo Alegre.
The Limestone Apartments are located near the southern tip of the island right on the Spanish Water, offering free kayaking and close proximity to the famous Tugboat snorkeling/dive spot. Check out Curacao.com and Curacao-Tourism.com for more info about these apartments and others.
In my humble opinion, the major hotel chains are way over-priced, are often located in relatively unattractive settings, and provide no indication that you are actually in Curacao!
To luvdapuss,
I have been to Curacao 3X and let's see if I can sum up my experiences for you. First time, I had a great time! Second time, I had a great-great time! Third time, I had a great-great-great time! In my opinion the odds are looking pretty good for you. ;)
Lion's Dive is a fairly small, but very comfortable Hotel with a reasonably good sized beach and stylish rooms, you will enjoy it. Its near a large diving center but a decent drive from Campo so drive safe those Suzuki's can be challenging to drive on curves and such.
However, doing the "walk-around", as a hot Curacao evening turns into a baumy, breezy caribbean night and the sun sets and paints the sky orange over Campo-Allegre, and scores of gorgeous women "style for a date" in every corner and in every room of the complex is something every red-blooded male should experience before he dies! (Wow, that's Hemingwayesque)
I would say that by about October 1st, you start counting down the time before your flight in hours and minutes you'll be so impatient.
Have fun,
Cheers,
FORD
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vagringo
[i]i heard the island is a poor mans aruba so what are basic girl prices at that famous ------house there [/i][/QUOTE]The prices are basically one dollar per minute with a posted minimum of 20 $ or 20 minutes per turn. Many of the girls have this note posted on their bathroom door. I thought it was ridiculous to remind patrons of such a nominal charge until several girls told me that some "locals" (Curacao men) will ask to go 5 minutes for 5 bucks, or 8 minutes for 8 bucks!
Yes, I have been to Aruba and I have to admit Curacao doesn't have the glitz or glamour and has a much higher percentage of "white-trash looking" Dutch travelers - but it also doesn't have the high price tag for most fun.
To *******, I have read and enjoyed your posts from the D.R. for a long time - I hope we meet someday. :)
If you are going to Curacao you should consider the Holiday Beach Hotel & Casino. Its website is www.hol-beach.com.
It has its own beach (good-sized), a pool, a great beach bar, a casino, is right next to Denny's (Curacao's only 24 hour restaurant - also great inexpensive eats for chicas), has a dive site, very large comfortable rooms, is right across the street from Club Havana's (catch the show every night at 11:00PM), 10 minutes from Campo and is currently running a %20 off "Dutch Treat" special on its already reasonable price. I have seen ALL the hotels in curacao and $ for $ Holiday Beach hotel is the best for OUR activities.
Cheers,
(And pass me the bottle of Jameson's and a little ice)
FORD
Hey JDR - sorry for the delay to answer. Name of the site is gocaribbean.com. It helps to spell caribbean correctly! Click on the "Travel Packages" and it does all the work for you. Pretty slick site but there are probably a hundred others and I'm not promoting this one, just sharing experience.
Only about 68 more days - I can't stand it!
Do not worry, Campo Alegre is alive and kicking! I am going back on October 30. I posted a couple of reports on WSA, I have no strength to repeat them, just remember - this is INCREDIBLE value, and the senoritas are HOT.
As always, knowing a little Spanish helps immensely, as does being nice to the girls.
Hi all!
Campo is rocking!
It looks like overall quality of girls have increased compared to the last 2-4 years. There are much less disgusting girls in Campo as it used to be. And many hot ones! You can also find some girls during day time. We did this two hours before the plane on the way back - at 12 noon. Maybe I post more fun strories about campo later here or on my website.
During day time we also checked LaTasco disco, there was a Poster - "Club For Sale", but I don't know if it was opened in the evening. Club Havana was working with several good looking girls inside, but we did not bother stay there, since campo is better. I'm attaching a foto of a colombian girl from LaTasco - it was 3 or 4 years ago. She said in Colombia she is working as a clothes designer.
Goga Fung
Glad to hear Campo is rocking. I just made my plane reservations for February. I will post a detailed report when I return. I hit the DR in Nov and Curacao in Feb things are looking real good.
A further confirmation that the Campo is still strong. $3 at the door, $30 for the experience. There's also a place to watch TV and play slot machines. A few things:
1. If you go before the sun sets, the pickins are slim.
2. Wear comfortable shoes, as the place is big and takes awhile to walk around.
3. I think you save a small amount if you exchange your money. Not much, but a little (especially if you have Euros).
Have fun!
Greetings from Goga again,
This will sound strange and make no sense but here are the facts.
I also always believed that it is a good idea to exchange money and pay in Florins, since most people would think that 50 Florins is $28 which is supposed to be less than a 30 dollar fee for "the experience".
Last month my friend was "negotiating" the fee, but the girl would not go down a single florin, she insisted on 50(as most others would do).
Then we asked how much in $$, she said $30, and then with no hesitation agreed to $20!
After that we found out that while many girls would not bargain in florins, they would happily make you a dollar discount. For some reason they get very excited about dollars, so that the actual amount is not that important. I don't know and don't care either, what logic stands behind that.
Old advice: do not show them more money than you wanna pay. Never open your wallet to count money in from of them.
Goga
I find it quite pathetic that any tourist who could afford to visit Curacao would even attempt to seek a price reduction from the incredibly reasonable $30 dollar (or fifty guilders) flat fee charged by the ladies at Campo Alegre, one of the world's greatest bordellos. This flat fee, a fabulous bargain in my humble opinion, prevents these same ladies from asking absurd prices like $100 to $300 per 30-minute session so frequently demanded in Nevada's bespoiled brothels, and saves us gents from having to undergo this unseemly bargaining process. These girls are only allowed a three-month stay on the island and are mostly non-pros from troubled and/or poor areas in countries such as Columbia and the Dominican Republic, struggling to support their families or to put themselves through school.
I STRONGLY suggest that anyone visiting Campo Alegre display some class and happily pay this $30 flat fee; the chances of having a GFE with a stunningly beautiful Latin lady will be greatly increased, and she will likely welcome you back if you decide to return. I have mostly found the ladies at Campo Alegre to be incredibly good-natured and fun to be with, and I don't hesitate to lay a $10 tip on them if satisfied, although this is hardly necessary.
My message to Goga's friend: "Shame on you!"
I could not agree more with the jetsetter. Yes, getting the best deal is indeed the American way, but come on! Show some class! If you can afford to come to Curacao, pay the airfare,hotel and rental car/cab, I cannot believe that 50NAF is a great deal of money for you.
Like the Jetsetter, if in my opinion the chica has provided a good experience I leave a tip. They are greatly appreciated.
I am going back on 10/30 - in 2 days, actually, and there are a few chicas there I firmly intend to spoil a bit. They deserve it.
Mr. Jetsetter and Tbird, I could not agree more with both of you either! Right, compared to what you spend at home, this is aleady a fabulous bargain. But there is also a different view to this.
Not everybody is fortunate as you are. My friend works day and night to pay for his rent and school. The trip to Curacao for him was not just a matter of buying a ticket, as for many others.
It's not the amount of money which makes it a "GF experience" if you wish to call it this way. I guess you'd be surpized that the girl(who agreed to $20 only) was all over him afterwards, and was saying how much she loved him and how much she wants to marry him.
We did not come to Campo for one-two-three GF only, we were spending for at least 3 mamasitas each eveninig. Many others come there just for one max, so they could easily show "some class". For us what we did was classy enough - supported 19 chicas total. And they loved us - many GF experiences.
All of that was very individual, here is the most important part. I believe that when in another country, one should not judge by his home standards. If you do this, then think what can happen: tomorrow some guys will think "well, at home we spend 100s and 1,000s for some skunk, so why don't I give this hotie extra $20 or $100 or something". To make sure high quality services are provided with good prices, people should bargain at least once in a while. If you go to another Curacao club, you won't find much bargain, they'll expect you to pay $200. Now think about a local Curacao guy or a salor with much lower salary then yours? We saw them there, they were not able to afford much. They often really need a bargain. $30 is too high for many people. If every tourist is gonna pay "flat fee" plus tips, then the other people will be out of favor. Tomorrow the management will think, well, lets make it $50 or $60. Will you pay? Of course you will. But not others.
See what happened in Holland? It used to be a flat guilder50($30) - almost everybody was happy, now its flat e50($50), I don't think everybody is as happy as before. In Paris, one local said, the prices were reasonable several years ago, but after awhile, girls realized, thre is no point to do it for $50, when there are a bunch of gentlemen who'll pay $500. The same is for Thailand, where the tourists rose prices a lot. And unfortunetely higher prices do not mean better quality, it depends only on the local market. In the USA you get probably the worst experience for the most money, because people pay for it. Please do not apply the same home standards to other places, people should keep prices as low as possible, it's good for all of us.
I did not mention that before, yes we tipped girls with good performance and were buying them drinks too, so hopefully now you will not put much shame on us.
I'm attaching a Campo pic.
I have just returned from Curacao. If the girl was happy to receive $20 (which is NAF35) - it must have been a really, really slow night for her, or there must have been some special chemistry involved. It happens.
Generally, if a girl really likes you, she may ask you to spend the night in her room. Just sleeping, that is. It happened to me, and AFAIK is considered moving up the ranks at Campo.
Just wanted to add that chicas generally begin to make some $$ with the third client of night, when you factor in the dailry rent, laundry, clothing, food, etc. These expenses run about 100 NAF per day for each chica.
When you bargain down, you are asking the chica to operate at a loss. This is not the American way, as far as I am concerned.
Like your friend, I work hard every day to make my salary and commissions. I just tend to put quality over quantity and enjoy delicious, slow, GFE-type sex.
As a school teacher making a salary in the neighborhood of $35,000 a year, I was somewhat amused by Goga's assumption that I am economically "fortunate." And my heart bleeds for his poor friend who has to "work day and night to pay for his rent and school," yet somehow has ample money to jump on a plane and journey to Curacao. I was also amused at his assumption that just because I was more than willing to pay this absurdly reasonable $30 flat flee, I must have contented myself with going to Campo Alegre each night "just for one max." Yes, us "classy" guys are also more than capable of handling three "mamasitas" in one night without cheaply and crassly trying to seek a 33% reduction in the fee, at the lady's expense (however much she subsequently said she loved him and wanted to marry him).
For the record, Goga, I don't spend ANY of my money "at home" on such an experience, because the absence of a similar, set flat fee here in the States -- excluding the fact that it is also unregulated and illegal in 49 states -- enables "ladies of the evening" to demand outlandish prices. Also, having spent considerable time in Costa Rica, Prague, Amsterdam, and Indonesia, I can assure you that Campo Alegre's prices are incredibly reasonable on a world-wide scale.
I also find it ludicrous that you think that by somehow bargaining an individual lady down from the flat fee, you are somehow keeping the prices down for everybody. And that you somehow equate your bargaining practices with those of the locals who show up and engage in a similar process. I don't care how "impoverished" your friend might appear to be to you, he is immeasurably wealthier than 90% of Curacao's locals, who will likely NEVER be able to afford the plane trip your friend took to get to Curacao.
Goga, I am in no way saying that you or your friend is a bad person, but I do think the logic you have applied to this particular situation is faulty and lacks an important degree of empathy with regard to the ladies/individuals who have traditionally made Campo Alegre such a fabulous place. And I have frequently counted my money in front of them without any incident or a hint of them wanting more.