Having been out and about the left bank there are quite a few nice place. You just have less chance of running into someone who speaks english.
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Having been out and about the left bank there are quite a few nice place. You just have less chance of running into someone who speaks english.
Ash, we do have them.... but at teh moment they are all rented... in fact i had to rent one myself this week when i went over there.
So I found myslef in Kiev for a night this week and after getting rid of a client really early, as he didn't drink as he had come from Indonesia.
I called a pal and we hooked up in Arena fro a couple of the home brews there the semi pros where out in force even as early as 8pm.... perhaps the credit crunch is making them work harder? any way we chatted to a few and i must admit there where three or four little student types and quite cute with it. But i was getting a little worse for wear and at about 11pm me an my pal jumped into a taxi to head home............
We where half way up Kreshatic when we looked at each other, decided it was not home time and we should at leat go have a look into River Palace, since i was here and all that ;)
So down to the river we went last time I was there was Feb so I expected a real change in faces, there where a few younger ones in, but so many of the same faces i had seen in Feb, perhaps I should leave it a year between visits so i forget them?
Any way drunk, and not really looking for a take out we parked ourselves at the bar and began the interviews, after say 2 hours and way way too many beers later a "pig" sorry I can not decribe her as anything else came over, opens with $200, I tell her I could not possible do a full night for $200 but perhaps an hour! she says great! i say you do realise you are paying me?
She says yes yes of course.... i sober up quickly, smile and say yes ok $200 and i am yours for 2 hours :)
She then tags on as we leave to get a cab. and follows me home, we are waiting for my taxi guy to arraive and she starts to complain that we should get a cab sat there I say no i will wait fro my taxi, she moans its cold, why so slow etc etc at this stage i am fully pissed off with this girl and think its time I let her come home and waste her time more since not only is she ugly she also has the attitude of a *****. when we get home she says ok before we start wheres my $200? I explain again that the agreement was her to pay me $200........ now I have a unhappy hooker in my rental and I kick her out the door......... shame really as i may have given her one had she paid me the $200 ;)
Why do i always come back from RP with another story? one day i will go there sober....perhaps the super bowl night, but i wont leave sober! :)
Q - you gotta admit, one way or another, you can ALWAYS have fun with a Ukrainian girl! Interesting attitude though - all girls think they are great looking and if a piggy has some hottie friends who are charging $200 she is damn well going to charge that too. Market forces? Bah.
[QUOTE=LifeSavour]As I know, YOU tend to like the 'wine & dine' freebie approach. The Queens are in the center. Trust ME, YOU will do just fine in any other region.
You may even SCREW better
The attitude of girls about the center is rapidly changing. Nice pectopahs, good shops, even discos are popping up ALL over the outer regions.
[/QUOTE]
You have a point. I know Kiev is a huge sprawling city and the golden square mile in the centre has little to do with the rest of it. All my previous trips have been very short so I've tended to stay in the centre.
You mentioned Kalinka Malinka and Saxon a while back.. does the 'I American' approach still work there?
What kind of rents are we talking for something 'EVRO REMONT' in your neck of the woods?
Do the tsentr dyevs STILL have that princess attitude? I thought they might be a little more grateful for a trip to a nice pectopah, given that they now probably have to cut down on one meal a day to pay the rent!
Ash, i was in saxon a while back, full of ones like the one we met here in donetsk, the small dark one you took for dinner, I am sure you remember ;)
I remeber as I am still trying to spot her around, I will try to hit where you missed :)
Ash, are you sure you've ever been to the Ukraine? :)
It will be a long time in coming before the center princesses drop the attitude - something like the ruble crash of '98. Try a normal girl, leave the center girls to the professionals.
[QUOTE=Ash1001]You mentioned Kalinka Malinka and Saxon a while back.. does the 'I American' approach still work there?
What kind of rents are we talking for something 'EVRO REMONT' in your neck of the woods?[/QUOTE]. Approach, I just show them my HUGE. Personality!
As far as Euro, a studio can be had for $800 depending of course on how close to a metro station.
Right now a 1 room, just normal repairs is still $600 at the lowest.
Check slando.com. Ua, I use google translate to see the pages in english.
Hope it helps?
LS
[QUOTE=Qjump]Ash, i was in saxon a while back, full of ones like the one we met here in donetsk, the small dark one you took for dinner, I am sure you remember ;)
I remeber as I am still trying to spot her around, I will try to hit where you missed :)[/QUOTE]
Oh, I remember all right :) How could I forget a cute little number like that? Good luck, I think she actually liked both of us! I had to pass up on that one due to lack of time as I was also chasing the tall blonde I met in Atlas bar. I returned a month later to close the deal. These short trips are bloody exhausting!
[QUOTE=Qjump]
It will be a long time in coming before the center princesses drop the attitude - something like the ruble crash of '98. Try a normal girl, leave the center girls to the professionals[/QUOTE]
Cruiser, if by 'centre girls' you mean the sugar daddy hunting regulars of Barsky or Tsar, forget it, I don't go to the centre for girls like that. What I'm after is the village girl, the out of town gem making a foray into the centre that she can't really afford. You can always spot the type as her face will light up when you offer a $10 bottle of shampanskoye (yes, even now).
And not all sponsors are oligarchs. I'm sure a lot of them will be running businesses that will be affected by the downturn, and may have to drop their sponsorees from 10 to maybe just their favourite 3 :) But yes these bitches' attitude will be the last thing to change.
[QUOTE=Ash1001]And not all sponsors are oligarchs. I'm sure a lot of them will be running businesses that will be affected by the downturn, and may have to drop their sponsorees from 10 to maybe just their favourite 3 :) But yes these bitches' attitude will be the last thing to change.[/QUOTE]If the economy tanks, which it almost certainly will, they'll change their attitude quick.
Interesting just listening to the tone of my regular contacts... none of the Russian girls I know are scared or commenting on the "krisis" (although they should be) but a significant number of the Ukrainians are.
I mean, it must suck to have a third of your salary cut overnight... from $300 a month to $200.... :)
I have a feeling attitudes will change quickly if things go to shit. Only problem is, the girls are much wiser and more savvy than they were a few years ago. Even in times of crisis, they now their value to men... especially horny Western, Turkish and Indian men.
Luckily there will be less foreign men traveling to the FSU now too. :)
Thanks for the info LS
I just chatted with an "on the ground" expert. There is no Econimic Crisis!
Lifesavour? 04:58 Hi there. You have quite a list of requirments! )
I have just 1. BBBJ? Do you know this slang?
? 05:14 Of course, but I think you should go to River Palace, I don't do 5 minute BBBJs. If you are interested in a class companion and can afford a few $1000 a month, then lets talk.
? 05:14 To answer your next question, Yes, I do swallow.
Lifesavour? 05:16 No, that was not my next? Ha)) And I do not go to RP! And I do like and have had a 'class' girlfriend. But for the $$ you are talking it has to be FULL. TIME! Only me!
Who do you live with now?
Lifesavour? 05:17 You know there is an ECONIMIC CRISIS here! ))
? 05:28 There is? I haven't noticed. My current Master has been recalled to the states at the end of the year, so I find myself in an position to find someone to replace him. I would go with him, but his wife would object, she doesn't like girls. I am well provided for as I deserve it, I do it all and much more. I live alone or with my lover, she fulfills my needs but I serve my Master when ever and for what ever required.
""" OK, so which one of you guys is going home? """
LS
Spent a few days in Kiev, went to RP arrived early so played in the Casino for a couple hours. Around 9:00p the ladies began arriving to the bar downstairs, many were very attractive. I landed up with a good looking lady, was unable to understand her name, we negotiated $150, plus 200Kiev for a return cab, Stayed at the Radisson, the secureity guy wanted 100Kiev to let the lady in. She had a great body, but was very mechanical, I was glad to see her leave.
The next day I visited a massage place [url]http://www.bagira.com.ua/en/[/url]
they had a 2 lady deal called Tsumini for $140, it was about 1.5 hrs long, very memorable. They had a good choice of ladies, I choose Alla and Zloty, the whole massage was very symitrical, orchrasted. There was no sex just a tit release at the end.
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Spent a few days in Kiev, went to RP arrived early so played in the Casino for a couple hours. Around 9:00p the ladies began arriving to the bar downstairs, many were very attractive. I landed up with a good looking lady, was unable to understand her name, we negotiated $150, plus 200Kiev for a return cab, Stayed at the Radisson, the secureity guy wanted 100Kiev to let the lady in. She had a great body, but was very mechanical, I was glad to see her leave.
The next day I visited a massage place [url]http://www.bagira.com.ua/en/[/url]
they had a 2 lady deal called Tsumini for $140, it was about 1.5 hrs long, very memorable. They had a good choice of ladies, I choose Alla and Zloty, the whole massage was very symitrical, orchrasted. There was no sex just a tit release at the end.[/QUOTE]John, those photos look very sexy and glamorous.
Do you know, are they actual photos of the girls that work there or?
I think all mongers can afford 1000$/month for a real sex slave.
This is the problem.
I never met girls for 1000$/month.
I never had real girlfriend sex, except one in Kiev.
6 months ago I went to River Palace with an Ukrainian man and I left that Ukrainian man negotiates with girls, and too many girls asked for 500 or 1000$ per night, for what? I am sure for very bad service.
I think 1000$/month is a very good price and if she makes much more than a man could imagine, that's a real deal!
But I have a doubt: if she knows River Palace, why does she ask just for 1000$/month instead of 1000$/night?
[QUOTE=LifeSavour]I just chatted with an "on the ground" expert. There is no Econimic Crisis!
Lifesavour? 04:58 Hi there. You have quite a list of requirments! )
I have just 1. BBBJ? Do you know this slang?
? 05:14 Of course, but I think you should go to River Palace, I don't do 5 minute BBBJs. If you are interested in a class companion and can afford a few $1000 a month, then lets talk.
? 05:14 To answer your next question, Yes, I do swallow.
Lifesavour? 05:16 No, that was not my next? Ha)) And I do not go to RP! And I do like and have had a 'class' girlfriend. But for the $$ you are talking it has to be FULL. TIME! Only me!
Who do you live with now?
Lifesavour? 05:17 You know there is an ECONIMIC CRISIS here! ))
? 05:28 There is? I haven't noticed. My current Master has been recalled to the states at the end of the year, so I find myself in an position to find someone to replace him. I would go with him, but his wife would object, she doesn't like girls. I am well provided for as I deserve it, I do it all and much more. I live alone or with my lover, she fulfills my needs but I serve my Master when ever and for what ever required.
""" OK, so which one of you guys is going home? """
LS[/QUOTE]
" .... a few $1000 a month"
Means more than 1!
She is thinking more like 3 or 4