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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, you really don't need much do you? LOL.
Don't take things too seriously, just smile, refuse and leave, you can't blame the girl for trying.[/QUOTE]I'm embarrassed by my weakness! I guess it depends on who is 'begging' for more. At fkk club a cuban girl (my only cuban ever) with great tits told me she was expecting a tip of 50 euro (on top of the 50 I'd just given her). But tips in fkk clubs are pretty strictly verboten--you pay for exactly what you get (50 straight screw, 100 CIM, 150 anal). So I was actually a bit angry at that girl for even asking for a tip.
But the thai girls, it is different--they are so poor and the extra 200 baht is hard to get excited about. What I really didn't like was her insistence--she just kept at it, wore me down. What can I say? Sucker farang.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]There is no need to accept a flat rate taxi fare traveling inside of bkk, unless you want to. There are plenty of moving taxis who will turn on the meter. Just be patient.
No need to tip them either, but rounding up to the nearest 5 baht is no big deal. Thais do this.[/QUOTE]
It's actually illegal for a taxi driver not to turn on the meter in BKK. But so are elephants on the streets and you see how well that law is enforced.
If you accept a flat rate you are going to pay more. Most people who do so are usually staying in five star hotels and don't know any better. A taxi will sit in front of the Four Seasons all day for one 500 baht fare instead of ten 50 baht fares.
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[QUOTE=Beagleface]....
One thing I didn't like on the tipping front was at Annie's (which I do NOT recommend--girls are butt ugly). I gave girl 300 tip and she begged me in an unpleasant way for more, more, more. 500 at least she said. She wasn't even that good, kind of surly. Almost ruined my day.[/QUOTE]
Don't go to Annies, because the girl being "butt ugly" is not giving you permission to under pay.
If you gave 300 then she would make a total of 800 which is considered well below the going rate for a sex session.
Uf she didn't perform hardly at all that's different. But 500 is really the minimum tip IMHO.
Annies has two problems for me. Too much money goes to the management and because of that, the girls are not so pretty.
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MoChit to KS or NP
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Normal fare on a meter would be about 100 THB.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but when you and the pooying are all shopped out, hot, dying for some beer & laden w/packages and you want to get home real fast I can only haggle a little bit. That is why you need to leave Chatachuk several hrs before dark becuse they won't budge when the place is shutting down. They know some dolt will pay 250 and I get them to stop off at a variety of food stalls on the way back to the hotel for a post JJ feast. It must be nice to live there, RA!
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another taxi story
Most of us have a taxi story, be it good or bad.
This is mine, and it was good.
A few years ago, I decided to bring back a small puppy to the USA from Indonesia. I flew business class from Indonesia to BKK, no problem at customs, and my plan was to smuggle the little thing into my room at my hotel in BKK, while I overnighter, and catch the morning TG flight to LAX via KIX. In those days, and maybe still now, you could fly with an animal in the cabin on all star alliance flights.
I landed at Don Muang, walked up to arrivals as usual, and hopped into a waiting taxi, giving the driver my hotel name. In absolute perfect English, he asked me if I thought I was going to be able to bring the dog in with me. I told him I hoped so. We chatted the whole way into town, turns out he had worked in the USA for 3 years, as a cabbie several years back.
We arrive at the hotel, I ask him to keep the puppy in the cab while I check in. well, the guy who pulled my luggage out saw the dog in the back seat, and I was informed that my plan was absolutely not going to take place. What to do? My cabbie suggested a couple of lower end hotels, alas, same response. He then told me of a 24 hour veterinarian who also boarded dogs, so off we go. We drop the puppy off, I tell them I will be back at 7.00 am to pick her up, and we go back to my original hotel. By now, the fare is showing around 600 Bt. I give the guy 1,000, and ask him if he can pick me up in the morning.
At 6.30 the next morning, he is downstairs. We drive off to the 24 hour vet shop………only to find they are closed. He calls all the numbers on the business card we were given, nothing. My flight leaves in 90 minutes. We go to the airport, where I rebook my flight for 2 days later, and then he takes me back to the vet, which is now open, and he gives them a piece of his mind. He then offers to keep the puppy ay his house for 2 days, free of charge, and pick me up at my hotel again in 2 days.
I have a ball in BKK for 48 hours, and as scheduled, 2 mornings later, he is in front of my hotel, with my puppy, we make it to the airport, we fly to LAX, and the dog is a great member of the family.
When he dropped me off at the airport, I handed him a crisp 100 USD bill, gave him a hug, and thanked him several times over.
Not a very sexy story, I am afraid, but I remember it like it was yesterday, whereas the girls I fucked during my 48 hour stay……I don’t remember them.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]Most of us have a taxi story, be it good or bad.
This is mine, and it was good.
A few years ago, I decided to bring back a small puppy to the USA from Indonesia. I flew business class from Indonesia to BKK, no problem at customs, and my plan was to smuggle the little thing into my room at my hotel in BKK, while I overnighter, and catch the morning TG flight to LAX via KIX. In those days, and maybe still now, you could fly with an animal in the cabin on all star alliance flights.
I landed at Don Muang, walked up to arrivals as usual, and hopped into a waiting taxi, giving the driver my hotel name. In absolute perfect English, he asked me if I thought I was going to be able to bring the dog in with me. I told him I hoped so. We chatted the whole way into town, turns out he had worked in the USA for 3 years, as a cabbie several years back.
We arrive at the hotel, I ask him to keep the puppy in the cab while I check in. well, the guy who pulled my luggage out saw the dog in the back seat, and I was informed that my plan was absolutely not going to take place. What to do? My cabbie suggested a couple of lower end hotels, alas, same response. He then told me of a 24 hour veterinarian who also boarded dogs, so off we go. We drop the puppy off, I tell them I will be back at 7.00 am to pick her up, and we go back to my original hotel. By now, the fare is showing around 600 Bt. I give the guy 1,000, and ask him if he can pick me up in the morning.
At 6.30 the next morning, he is downstairs. We drive off to the 24 hour vet shop………only to find they are closed. He calls all the numbers on the business card we were given, nothing. My flight leaves in 90 minutes. We go to the airport, where I rebook my flight for 2 days later, and then he takes me back to the vet, which is now open, and he gives them a piece of his mind. He then offers to keep the puppy ay his house for 2 days, free of charge, and pick me up at my hotel again in 2 days.
I have a ball in BKK for 48 hours, and as scheduled, 2 mornings later, he is in front of my hotel, with my puppy, we make it to the airport, we fly to LAX, and the dog is a great member of the family.
When he dropped me off at the airport, I handed him a crisp 100 USD bill, gave him a hug, and thanked him several times over.
Not a very sexy story, I am afraid, but I remember it like it was yesterday, whereas the girls I fucked during my 48 hour stay……I don’t remember them.[/QUOTE]
By any chance do you have the taxi guy's contact info?......if so PM me...I have some work for him....seems like a good hearted guy..........
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Don't go to Annies, because the girl being "butt ugly" is not giving you permission to under pay.
If you gave 300 then she would make a total of 800 which is considered well below the going rate for a sex session.
Uf she didn't perform hardly at all that's different. But 500 is really the minimum tip IMHO.
Annies has two problems for me. Too much money goes to the management and because of that, the girls are not so pretty.[/QUOTE]
I seldom go to soapy or oily massage parlors because there are usually much less expensive alternatives available offering the same quality of service.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that an Annie’s girl receives only 500 baht from the 1700 paid to management for a session, which means that the shop gets 1200 – substantially more than twice as much as the girl. You believe that the minimum tip should therefore be 500 baht, (roughly 30% of the charges) in order for the girl to make 1000 baht. But why should the customer compensate the girl for the shop’s greedy and unfair pay scale arrangement?
Although I sympathize with the Annie’s girl’s predicament, Beagleface’s tip of 300 baht still amounts to more than 17%, which seems quite reasonable and adequate to me, unless he got 2 or more pops during the session, which would probably justify a higher sum. I think 2200 baht for a short time session is rather expensive in view of the fact that the same level of looks and service can generally be had for 1000 – 1500 baht elsewhere.
I know that you favor more expensive parlors that charge 2500 and up for a 90 minute session. What do you believe should be the minimum tip at those places, and how much does the shop keep? A 500 baht tip would bring the total cost for the session to 3000 baht, which seems excessive for short time sex unless the girl is a superstar providing outstanding looks and multiple PSE pops. For that kind of money I can get 3 ST sessions with great looking girls.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]If I understand you correctly, you are saying that an Annie’s girl receives only 500 baht from the 1700 paid to management for a session, which means that the shop gets 1200 – substantially more than twice as much as the girl. You believe that the minimum tip should therefore be 500 baht, (roughly 30% of the charges) in order for the girl to make 1000 baht. But why should the customer compensate the girl for the shop’s greedy and unfair pay scale arrangement? [/quote]
That is hearsay. how can we be so sure about what the girls make @ Annies? I know the prices were raised from 1500 to 1700 and that the extra 200 went directly into the girls pocket.
[quote]Although I sympathize with the Annie’s girl’s predicament, Beagleface’s tip of 300 baht still amounts to more than 17%, which seems quite reasonable and adequate to me, unless he got 2 or more pops during the session, which would probably justify a higher sum.[/quote]
Annies minimum is 2 shots: 1 in the tub + 1 on the bed
[quote]I think 2200 baht for a short time session is rather expensive in view of the fact that the same level of looks and service can generally be had for 1000 – 1500 baht elsewhere.[/quote]
Let's see... in the Sukh Area:
[b]SOAPIES[/b]
Annies 1,700thb, 120mn, 2 shots
Darling 2,500thb, 90mn, 2 shots
[b]OILIES[/b]
Any place 2,300thb, 120mn, 1 shot
(800 for 2 hours before you even talk about extras, FS is 1500 on top of that)
[b]FREELANCER[/b]
BG7, Gullivers, Thermae, Street Walker 1,680thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 shot
(1,000 for ST, + 100 drinks, + 80 Condoms + 500 ST Hotel)
[b]GO GO BAR[/b]
Any NEP, Cowboy, or beer bar 2,830thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 shot
(500 Barfine + 250 drinks + 80 condoms, 500 ST Hotel + 1500 ST rate)
I did not include tipping because Tipping is up to the punter.
All taken into consideration, Annies is still the punter's cheapest alternative in Sukhumvit.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Let's see... in the Sukh Area:
[b]SOAPIES[/b]
Annies 1,700thb, 120mn, 2 shots
Darling 2,500thb, 90mn, 2 shots
[b]OILIES[/b]
Any place 2,300thb, 120mn, 1 shot
(800 for 2 hours before you even talk about extras, FS is 1500 on top of that)
[b]FREELANCER[/b]
BG7, Gullivers, Thermae, Street Walker 1,680thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 shot
(1,000 for ST, + 100 drinks, + 80 Condoms + 500 ST Hotel)
[b]GO GO BAR[/b]
Any NEP, Cowboy, or beer bar 2,830thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 shot
(500 Barfine + 250 drinks + 80 condoms, 500 ST Hotel + 1500 ST rate)
I did not include tipping because Tipping is up to the punter.
All taken into consideration, Annies is still the punter's cheapest alternative in Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]How can you not include tipping when you include it (the fee the tip) with the others. ROFL and then you include hotels. ROFL. Most punters have a hotel already FFS.
Lets do it again, more fairly:
Let's see. In the Sukh Area:
[b]SOAPIES[/b]
Annies 1,700thb + 500thb + 140thb drinks, 120mn, 2 shots = 2340
Darling 2,500thb, 90mn, 2 shots = 2500
[b]SPECIALS[/b]
[b]OILIES[/b]
Any place 60mn, 1 shot = 2100
(600 for 1 hour FS is 1500 on top of that)
[b]FREELANCER[/b]
BG7, Gullivers, Thermae, Street Walker 1,680thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 or 2 shot
(1,000 for ST, + 100 drinks, + 80 Condoms) = 1180 thb
[b]GO GO BAR[/b]
Any NEP, Cowboy, or beer bar 2,830thb, 120 to 180mn, 1 or 2 shot
(500 Barfine + 250 drinks + 80 condoms + 1500 ST rate) 2330 thb
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
Although I sympathize with the Annie’s girl’s predicament, Beagleface’s tip of 300 baht still amounts to more than 17%, which seems quite reasonable and adequate to me, unless he got 2 or more pops during the session, which would probably justify a higher sum. I think 2200 baht for a short time session is rather expensive in view of the fact that the same level of looks and service can generally be had for 1000 – 1500 baht elsewhere.
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I can't disagree that its a bit expensive in the end,
but its just I would have to have some sympathy for the girl after receiving a really good service from her. I would feel I was ripping her off by giving a low tip. She has got to eat and pay the rent too. She wasn't happy with a 300 Baht tip.
The girl will quick tell all her friends that this guy is "cheap charlie".
There is never any point at all in repeating with a girl who is not happy with you! The odd customer that has ripped off a Tulip girl would never ever get any service at all again even if the girl goes to the room with him.
But in the end we don't go to Annies, so probably my opinion is not wanted.
If I found a good Annies girl, I would probably give her the opportunity to see me secretly outside so that we could avoid the heavy management fees and allow her to get a better deal. Its better for me at Oilies where fee to management and girl are kept completely seperate, or at Soapies where girl gets greater than 50%, but Annies does not to do this.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Let's see... in the Sukh Area:
[b]FREELANCER[/b]
BG7, Gullivers, Thermae, Street Walker 1,680thb, 60 to 90mn, 1 shot
(1,000 for ST, + 100 drinks, + 80 Condoms + 500 ST Hotel)
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Why does a 1 shot FREELANCER, presumably requiring maximum 1 condom, need 80bt spent on condoms? Do you use gold plated ones?
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[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]
It must be nice to live there, RA!
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To be honest with you, I've spent too much time in Thailand and I'm happiest when sitting on a plane and BKK is behind me.
I Just hate leaving the little lady behind and that's why I always come back.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Why does a 1 shot FREELANCER, presumably requiring maximum 1 condom, need 80bt spent on condoms? Do you use gold plated ones?[/QUOTE]
80thb is the price for a Pack of 3 (assuming you aren't buying the Thai crap @ 30thb). When I do ST, I usually go through 2 to 3 condoms. I like to alternate between FS, BBBJ, FS, BBBJ and then FS again.
If you want to nitpick about condom prices, fine, then you can spend 30thb and get the 49mm Thai condoms. Sorry, I was off by 50thb, I hope the cheap charlies out there will forgive me that mistake. ;)
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy] Sorry, I was off by 50thb, I hope the cheap charlies out there will forgive me that mistake. ;)[/QUOTE]
50 lashes and bamboo under the finger nails for you, Frenchy ;)
By the same token, why include a 500 Bt ST room in your calculations?
a FL should therefore be 1,000 plus a drink, plus a box of condoms.
Still the most value, if you happened to pick a good one, and of course, there are no guarantees there, unless you have availed yourself of her services in the past, and call her over to your hotel, in which case, you have a winner.
Sorry LB2, no contact for the cabbie, it was about 5 years ago.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]By the same token, why include a 500 Bt ST room in your calculations?[/quote]
I live in this town so bringing a FL to my spacious and expensive condo is out of question. ST hotel is the best and Luxury Hotel Soi 19 has very clean rooms for this price.
I forgot to also factor in the cost of taxi (~100thb) if you take her to your hotel.
Keep in mind that FLs are a ST, one shot, 60 to 90 mn experience while Annies is 2 shots, a nice Bath, Massage and a Fuck, all in 120mn.
2 shots from a FL will cost you 1,500