Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2449894]Wouldn't the same logistical problems exist testing at airport before boarding?[/QUOTE]Yes you would. Testing at an airport would be a terrible idea! The airport is no place for testing, diagnosis, vaccinations, and so on. All that sort of thing should happen at hospitals and clinics set up specifically for that purpose. You don't get your tests, shots, visas, identification, and all that stuff at the airport. Better to have all those matters squared away before you show up at the airport so that when you get there, you're cleared and ready to travel. The only thing that might be good to do would be quick temperature scans to identify who is traveling with a fever. You can do that without creating a massive jam of passengers.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2449834]That's if you trust those numbers worldwide to be accurate. Which they are not. Why try to come to any comparisons / conclusions when everyone knows those numbers are not accurate? Some countries under represent the number of deaths / cases and other countries over represent the number of deaths / cases. Most countries are not reporting all of their deaths. Even the numbers in the USA are not accurate because they push the corona virus death numbers up on purpose. The way the system is setup with the US Government funding, if a person dies of coronavirus, they get 13,000 usd free from the Government. If they are on the vent from coronavirus, they get 30,000 usd. If they die from anything else or go on the vent due to anything else, they get zero. So they are basically claiming that anyone who even possibly may have corona died of corona, which is far from the truth.

The death numbers they are posting in the US are higher than reality. Just the opposite has happened in China (obviously).[/QUOTE]US tell only 78000 deaths at the moment, with more than 1500 per day, but what about so many people without insurance and illegals, for who nobody know. On this crisis, I'm not, but if I was American, I think I would trust more Obama than Trump.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2449894]Wouldn't the same logistical problems exist testing at airport before boarding?[/QUOTE]No. You can test hours earlier and those who do not pass do not get to board. You could probably test a day earlier if you accept some risk. Plus, safer on plane if everyone is virus free.

[QUOTE=RealZoom;2449837]No offence intended, but 85% is ways to little accuracy to be used for serious testing and monitoring infections. Every false positive will feel safe, ignore rules as he is "safe", catch the virus and happily spread it until he gets serious ill and will be retested, or even worse, just have mild symptoms and become a super-spreader.

Tests with such an accuracy might be used for personal entertainment only, but have zero epidemiological value.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]None taken! In fact, I quite agree with you. But we need to scale up testing. We are doing 250,000 tests a day. All the experts are saying 5 to 10 million tests are necessary to fully reopen the economy in the US. Our current PCR test is quite accurate but too slow and it does not look like we can do 5 million PCR tests per day in the next few months. What can we do? The antigen based test is an answer. Even if the accuracy is a bit low, it enables mass scale testing.

I would much rather tests give too many false positives. If someone has been falsely diagnosed as positive, a subsequent accurate test will show he is not. Too many false negative tests is a problem because the infected people think they are clear, mingle with the rest of us and spread the virus.

BigBuddy69,

You asked me about massage a few days ago. Just let you know that all types of Massage parlors in NRW are allowed to be reopened from tomorrow (May 11), but I think you know it is illegal to offer any kind of sex service in massage parlors in Germany.

According to one poster on Rheinforum who studied new measures (see the link below), escort service will also be allowed in NRW from tomorrow although it is not clearly stated in the measures.

https://www.land.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/2020-05-08_fassung_coronaschvo_ab_11.05.2020_lesefassung_final_0.pdf

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2449813]But didn't you read and understand Olga is not FKK Romanian, but Russian living in Paris since beginning of the year to try career, not classical escort on tour profile, why she is interesting, more normal woman, but exactly same behavior than FKK Romanians, and same with so many other Russian escorts I got out of agencies, for nights after work, telling about their life, really not needing to ask for, same in any place, same with Rachel GT, Sandra Sharks and wow Elena. De in Germany. When women trust, they need to speak, indeed after or before sex, to feel safe, but you need to have level for this, a bit higher and also for performance for real, not porn comedy, than Woodman style. Sex is not only to empty balls for me, I won't pay only for this, I prefer pleasure in mind, even much more difficult to get.[/QUOTE]They are prostitutes Siri, you can call prostitutes to seek for some relation like you do, but generally, prostitutes are there to have sexual relation based on money, not to seek personal relation try to find out about their private information, they do not like that, it is creepy LOL.

They may tell you differently because they have to handle you as a client and very difficult and creepy one LOL. Put yourself on their shoes LOL.

I call prostitutes or go to FKK to fuck. To have personal relations I got my private life with friends to do that. I don't need prostitutes in my private lives and prostitutes don't need their clients in their private lives, they need us in their professional lives.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2449834]That's if you trust those numbers worldwide to be accurate. Which they are not. Why try to come to any comparisons / conclusions when everyone knows those numbers are not accurate? Some countries under represent the number of deaths / cases and other countries over represent the number of deaths / cases. Most countries are not reporting all of their deaths. Even the numbers in the USA are not accurate because they push the corona virus death numbers up on purpose. The way the system is setup with the US Government funding, if a person dies of coronavirus, they get 13,000 usd free from the Government. If they are on the vent from coronavirus, they get 30,000 usd. If they die from anything else or go on the vent due to anything else, they get zero. So they are basically claiming that anyone who even possibly may have corona died of corona, which is far from the truth.

The death numbers they are posting in the US are higher than reality. Just the opposite has happened in China (obviously).[/QUOTE]As for so called red team like China and Russia no, and as for emerging nations or less developed nations corona is not there yet in some of these nations and they don't have infrastructure to test them anyways.

I would say G7 nations figures for death rates are more or less accurate. As for infection rates, some nations are not doing test on everyone who ask for it to avoid cluster infection at hospitals and also to protect medical infrastructures to decrease death rates and it is saving lives that is important and not testing people who ask for it, so it is right measure.

Situation seems to be getting bit calmer for first wave, let see if there is second wave like Spanish flu, which killed more people with second wave.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2449834]That's if you trust those numbers worldwide to be accurate. Which they are not. Why try to come to any comparisons / conclusions when everyone knows those numbers are not accurate? Some countries under represent the number of deaths / cases and other countries over represent the number of deaths / cases. Most countries are not reporting all of their deaths. Even the numbers in the USA are not accurate because they push the corona virus death numbers up on purpose. The way the system is setup with the US Government funding, if a person dies of coronavirus, they get 13,000 usd free from the Government. If they are on the vent from coronavirus, they get 30,000 usd. If they die from anything else or go on the vent due to anything else, they get zero. So they are basically claiming that anyone who even possibly may have corona died of corona, which is far from the truth.

The death numbers they are posting in the US are higher than reality. Just the opposite has happened in China (obviously).[/QUOTE]This is total BS. Analysis from every single nation shows that far more people died in March and April of this year than did in prior years and only a fraction of those were classified as dying from Corona. This is happening even as deaths due to traffic accidents, gun violence, work place accidents have massively declined. All analysts and experts are saying many deaths which are due to Corona are not being classified as such because those people were never tested.

As for this excess payment for a Corona death than normal death in US hospitals -- this is a lie being propagated by people who don't have faintest fucking clue about US hospitals, DRG codes, reimbursement methods, US insurance system, interplay of CMS and private employer insurance and so many other things. Enough said.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2449711]
Given how the world is already run by a future AI that traveled back in time, we really don't have anything to say. Because it already knows what we have said. That is why Big Brother is everywhere around us. It is the Super AI needing to monitor us. Then again, that AI is probably just a software within the Matrix software we are living in also. To simulate our response to it by an even more super AI. And most 'humans' are probably just non playable characters too. Besides, science even seems to prove this (the double slit experiment and the mathematically more logical holographic universe theory). So it doesn't matter at all what you think or do. And the base reality might just have a totally different set of laws in its own Hilbert space as well, so the base Super AI (or true God) might just be fooling around for fun too.[/QUOTE]Salaam Pistons and may your herd of goats never stray from the road to Mecca. I think you discovered much of the above from the speculative text [I]Hyperion[/I] by Dan Simmons. If not, give it a read!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2449682]
But your situation is different from Polyamoritst's situation. His primary motive often appears to be take cheap shots at the US. See his most recent comment above for example where he makes a nonsensical, made up accusation that US and France funded the research behind Corona virus, and tied it to some incoherent rant about iPhone. When you also notice that he intentionally camouflages his own nationality in these pages and leads with the fake usage of Arab expressions (BFsie already said however that Polyamorist actually is a resident of DE, whether he is a citizen or not), such intentionally false accusations do nothing to promote a constructive and friendly exchange of info on an international site like ISG.[/QUOTE]I'm flattered by your attention and curiosity, Pessimist. I just wanted to assure you that I am a very open person and all you had to do was send me a PM and (as with anyone who asks) I would return my name, address, email, scan of my Caliphate Driving License, SSN, credit card number, DNA pdf and (new) Wuhan Travel Permit QR-code. My sole regret is that the rules of the forum prohibit me from putting this information in a public post, leaving people such as yourself with the impression that I have something to hide. The only thing I would ask you to share in return is the location of your jail / work unit so I may come and read to you and perhaps convert you to the True Faith.

As for the idea of residence in Germany, your research may have been a bit lacking. It seems unlikely if you look at my posting times with a magnifying glass. If you catch me dropping into Deutsch from time to time that is just a [I]Zufall[/I] due my excessive Whatsapping with Dusseldorf [I]Hobbyhuren[/I]. But why shouldn't I live over there if I wanted to? My dream would be to manage my own little kebab shop in Neukolln and head to the raves at night. I would be a shoo-in to the party scene anywhere in Germany with my dusky skin, thick accent and sexy limp acquired during the Six-Day War.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2450018]Salaam Pistons and may your herd of goats never stray from the road to Mecca. I think you discovered much of the above from the speculative text [I]Hyperion[/I] by Dan Simmons. If not, give it a read!

I'm flattered by your attention and curiosity, Pessimist. I just wanted to assure you that I am a very open person and all you had to do was send me a PM and (as with anyone who asks) I would return my name, address, email, scan of my Caliphate Driving License, SSN, credit card number, DNA pdf and (new) Wuhan Travel Permit QR-code. My sole regret is that the rules of the forum prohibit me from putting this information in a public post, leaving people such as yourself with the impression that I have something to hide. The only thing I would ask you to share in return is the location of your jail / work unit so I may come and read to you and perhaps convert you to the True Faith.

As for the idea of residence in Germany, your research may have been a bit lacking. It seems unlikely if you look at my posting times with a magnifying glass. But why shouldn't I live over there if I wanted to? My dream would be to manage my own little kebab shop in Neukolln and head to the raves at night. I would be a shoo-in to the party scene anywhere in Germany with my dusky skin, thick accent and sexy limp acquired during the Six-Day War.[/QUOTE]Sorry, Poly! Your slander that I am in prison is out of line and reflective of your own lack of class; the sarcasm in the rest of your comment is wasted. No one cares where you are from; You do give several false hints constantly with those fake Arab invocations which were funny once or twice but after a while are tiresome to most people. Be that as it may, your continual cheap shots at US are indicative that perhaps in the past this country was not nice to you, or perhaps simply you are jealous of Americans who are far more wealthy than where you may be from. I do not care what drives you or motivates you in this needless and pointless animosity to US, I simply observe that your comments are full of cheap shots and falsehoods about US, and it is obvious to any American that you pretty much have no clue about America. It would be far better if you focused on your mongering life and contributed info in that direction which is the point of ISG, and not denigrating some other country of which you are jealous.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2449834]That's if you trust those numbers worldwide to be accurate. Which they are not. Why try to come to any comparisons / conclusions when everyone knows those numbers are not accurate? Some countries under represent the number of deaths / cases and other countries over represent the number of deaths / cases. Most countries are not reporting all of their deaths. Even the numbers in the USA are not accurate because they push the corona virus death numbers up on purpose. The way the system is setup with the US Government funding, if a person dies of coronavirus, they get 13,000 usd free from the Government. If they are on the vent from coronavirus, they get 30,000 usd. If they die from anything else or go on the vent due to anything else, they get zero. So they are basically claiming that anyone who even possibly may have corona died of corona, which is far from the truth.

The death numbers they are posting in the US are higher than reality. Just the opposite has happened in China (obviously).[/QUOTE]It does not surprise me if Chinese government did this on half purpose to mess up US election, so Trump, which is Chinese enemy number one won't be elected.

I hope American voters are smart enough to figure out, republican is the last wall to stop crazy things from not happening, but going worst, so they will vote wisely.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2450029]It does not surprise me if Chinese government did this on half purpose to mess up US election, so Trump, which is Chinese enemy number one won't be elected.

I hope American voters are smart enough to figure out, republican is the last wall to stop crazy things from not happening, but going worst, so they will vote wisely.[/QUOTE]With Obama this crisis would not have been a disaster in US. Biden is not the best and I am worried about how weak can be him in facing with Republicans. Trump could win if he announces the vaccine before November.

[QUOTE=Kamsutra69;2449559]CIM won't be allowed then ... will be cure to this virus soon. Otherwise I don't see the clubs opening before that.[/QUOTE]It was, it is and it will be unnecessary to discuss any kind of features which male guests expect or are suprised to get in touch with when being in a club. Why? Nobody got a look beyond the closed door but assumptions and rumours make the round what happens and the conditions for realisation. Meanwhile it's ridiculous that traditional STD and HIV aren't anymore in the focus of board members (maybe most of the guys always have a broad-spectrum antibiotic in their pockets or stories about welllknown clubs are only fairy tales) but castles' building in the air thinking that there is a vaccine close to approval by FDA is the key for unlimited pleasure in the future??

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450086]NRW is the hotspot for Corona since the very first beginning as e.g. carnival events worked like a splitter in several regions. But the prime minister of NRW since weeks is one of the opinion leaders arguing for more freedom especially in social life.[/QUOTE]Maybe specific small towns in NRW. Dusseldorf is the second most populous city in NRW, but seems like maybe 5-6 cities have more total cases: [URL]https://www.wz.de/nrw/fallzahlen-so-viele-coronavirus-infizierte-gibt-es-in-nrw_aid-49482175[/URL].

Total cases, Bavaria has 44 K, NRW 35 K, Baden-Wurttemberg 33 K. Per 100 K, Bavaria has 339, Baden-Wrttem*berg 300, NRW 196: [URL]https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Fallzahlen.html[/URL].

Berlin is the biggest city and has the second-highest population density behind Munich, yet they only have 167 cases per 100 K. Hessen only has 144 per 100 K and it has the by far the most busiest airport. I find that surprising.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450089]It was, it is and it will be unnecessary to discuss any kind of features which male guests expect or are suprised to get in touch with when being in a club. Why? Nobody got a look beyond the closed door but assumptions and rumours make the round what happens and the conditions for realisation. Meanwhile it's ridiculous that traditional STD and HIV aren't anymore in the focus of board members (maybe most of the guys always have a broad-spectrum antibiotic in their pockets or stories about welllknown clubs are only fairy tales) but castles' building in the air thinking that there is a vaccine close to approval by FDA is the key for unlimited pleasure in the future??[/QUOTE]I often don't understand what I read about AO and HIV. I'm not afraid by much, I'm used to take big risks nearly weekly, I don't worry much about virus for me, I'm pretty sure virus was already in clubs on mid March when I was there, but I m afraid of HIV, because even you succeed to survive for a while, You will be weak for your life. I don't want to die like this.