Never ask the price for freelancer!
[QUOTE=Neddy69;2766073]I did not say that there's no smart phones. I said only the super rich and that also goes for hookers have one. Yesterday I was in Glacier. And yes. Some girls have smart phones. Their starting price pour la nuit 100 k. One was brazen enough to ask for 150 k. But you're rich American. Go figure.
La Buse.[/QUOTE]Why someone should ask the price for a freelancers bitces? If you how much you always get silly price answer!. I never ask how much she wants but offer my prices instead and they always agree for it. Newbie mistake to ask prices for freelancers. !! Any country works like that! Glacier prices is 50-60 LT. ST is 30-40 k ariary.
Subsaharan Hookers pricing. A Study
[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.
Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!
Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.
Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Mate. There is no and there's never been a "logic" in pricing in subsaharan Africa. Read my countless posts to that subject. Use the search function. A good rule of thumb is a white man pays roughly double to one and a half the price a local pays. For example in Tana a local pays 20.000 MGA for a shag. I mongered in ten subsaharan countries now. And it's everywhere the same. 10 USD. Except. Tourist areas or rich expat or rich local venues like 5* Hotels or upmarket Discotheques in the most expensive neighbourhoods. There the price quoted can easily be 10 Times as much I. E. 100 USD. Another factor is language. If the girl speaks English in non English speaking colonies a skill set expect the base price of 10 $ to multiply by 5 to 10.
The other factor is time. Time in subsaharan Africa is irrelevant.
ST can be one shag or two shags. 30 minutes or 2 hours. Get used to it. In some markets the difference between overnight called fortwith LT is relatively benign. After a certain hour public transport might not be available or it might be outright dangerous to move so girls prefer to look for a bed to sleep. How often you shag. It depends. Usually 2 to 3 times. There's the age old problem of girls you agreed to for "LT" and she tries to take off after one shag and still collect a higher rate. Always negotiate a "shag" and see how the vibez are. There's. A zillion factors.
Bienvenue a Afrique Noir.
La Buse.
"offer they can't refuse"
[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.
Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!
Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.
Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Hi Mate.
Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.
Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.
1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.
2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).
Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.
Lesson no 2: Value preposition.
Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners). You don't have to fuck by anyone's rules. You can make the rules.
"Offer they cannot refuse"
[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.
Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!
Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.
Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Hi Mate.
Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.
Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.
1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.
2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).
Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.
Lesson no 2: Value preposition.
Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners) You don't have to fuck by anyone' rules. You can make the rules.