[QUOTE=The Middleman]If I may ask you in which country.[/QUOTE]
The only one that wanted me.
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[QUOTE=The Middleman]If I may ask you in which country.[/QUOTE]
The only one that wanted me.
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Ok so you are a no raison d'être "shit" starter. Now thats what Warbucks calls a loser.[/QUOTE]
Takes one to know one?
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Gamahucher you seem to not be very observant for a former soldier. ..[/QUOTE]
Actually the point is that I am too observant! Too little passes under the radar. I appreciate that a bunch of savvy and streetwise guys with divergent and highly individualistic viewpoints are hardly likely to stay on topic for very long. I guess my point, obliquely made, is that as interesting as it is to be appraised of the personal details of a members successes and material assets, a few here do have an attention span slightly longer than that of a goldfish, and really only need to be told once!
You flatter me but I am no intellectual. There are members on this and other forums here who have much higher wattage brains than my meager possession. This diversity of intellects found here is of endless fascination, ranging from guys who can hardly seem to string a coherent sentence together to those who seem to write doctorate thesis's instead of reports. All brought together through a common goal to score pussy :D. Amazing.
The other side of the story.
We all read with great interest the exploits of Thailand’s numerous mongers, whether they be "vacation mongers" or "expat mongers". Well I thought I would just try to represent the other side of the industry with an account (straight from the horse’s mouth) from a lady working in a well known massage parlor. I will not mention any names of places or people.
The woman in question is in her thirties, but would easily pass as 28, like a lot of Thai women she has kept her age well. I would describe her as beautiful, she has lovely black bobbed hair and very pale skin, and she has no kids so she has a rather perfect body with very firm, verging on solid breasts. She is not hard core and maintains an air of serenity. In fact she is too polite considering her work.
I asked her did she like any part of her job. No she replied, only collecting the money at the end of the day, who would like this job! She told me sometimes when they get a nice looking customer they can be so arrogant and difficult to please, also it can be embarrassing for them as they do not really understand the motive of some really handsome men. Her words not mine. She also told me that when they get in the room many men change from the original meeting. Example: she had one customer who originally wanted a girl to do anal, but he did not like the girls on offer, so he chose her knowing she did not offer this service. When he got her in the room he insisted on anal and knowing he could cause many problems for her as he was a regular, she reluctantly agreed. Without going into too much detail she told me that I would not believe some of the weird shit they have to put up with (Japs). She told me she regularly does two ladies one man, this is not a favorite for her as she does not like eating pussy, which customers always insist on. I can understand that. I would not suck a cock! The girls can refuse customers and certain things. But she told me that when you start refusing life starts to get difficult and you are not recommended to customers. When I asked her about condoms she replied "I never do anything without a condom, not even oral".
She told me her best day was 6 customers in a 12 hour shift and this was when she first started at the parlor. So she was the new kid on the block and very popular. Three months on she is lucky to get one or two a day. She told me their life span is short. New girls come in and take the top positions and the favors of the mammasan /pappasan. Her best tip ever was 5000bt, but many times she gets nothing. Where she works she is favored by Thai customers, which suits her because she does not really like Farangs. I never really pushed for a reason, from between the lines I think it is just easier for her with Thai men, they are not so demanding.
If you looked at this woman you would never think she is in the sex industry. She is beautiful and has retained a very feminine character, her manners are flawless, she looks like the perfect wife material. So guys next time you are out there enjoying yourself, remember these girls have a story too, and they are human beings doing the worst job possible as far as Thai culture is concerned. When you are in a massage parlor and the girl seems shy about showing her body and covers quickly. That’s the real her!
Next time I go I am going to give a good tip, they deserve it. I wouldn't want to suck my cock!
[QUOTE=*****man]The reality is that most girls will go wild for a young handsome man.[/QUOTE]
Watch their eyes and their body language when young guys go by. Like everyone else over 40, girls have told me numerous times they don't like going with young guys - and then minutes later when one goes by their eyes light up and they nearly get giddy. It's hard to blame them - I sure would not go with a woman 20 years older than me unless she had a gun to my head.
As to the debate on being a loser for coming here for sex, I plead guilty! It's certainly the way most of Western society looks at us and in truth so did I for quite a while. Now though that I am getting older and still getting laid with more different girls in a month than most non-losers do in their lifetime I am ok with that. Some people just aren't good at relationships and I am one of them. But I like sex and warm weather. When I was younger I felt guilty that I wasn't doing what was expected of me - get married, have kids, be a good neighbor - but now I am incredibly happy that I am not tied down for the remainder of my life to some middle class life of morality and monogamy waiting for the children to visit and my pension to kick in. Most of us are over here having fun, seeing the world, making friends and having new experiences all the time.
Day 3 and another interesting experience, whilst not being p4p I thought I woul share it, anyway headed out with the intention of hitting annies then the nana complex or soi cowboy. On the way out I came across this young lass trying to lift some heavy looking crates onto the back of pickup, with no one obviously helping her the gentleman in me offered to help her, which was duly accepted, now she was quite attactive so I offered to buy her a drink, which was accepted and one thing led to another (I will leave that up to your sordid imagination) and we ended up back at my hotel, unfortunately she had to work tomorrow so left just before midnight. Moral of the story, no good deed goes unrewarded. Sometime I just can't figure Thai girls, here was a young girl, must have been 21 as she claimed, good looking choosing to go with me and not for money, middle aged and not in the best of shape, go figure. I guess I have to watch out that I don't gain a girlfriend, but then I am only in Bangkok for a week then can easily disapear as I only give my nuber for a thai sim I buy new every time I come to Bangkok.
Feeling a bit exhausted decided not to go to Cowboy, instead went for a quick rub and tug at Lavender soi 22, but the session was quite mediocre, same girl as last time but totally different, I guess she had had a long day as well. Still a competent massage which was the main thing I was after.
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I haven't been to many FL Bars, just had a quick beer at Beergarden last November.
What ages of women can one expect to see at those places? Youngest and oldest, it would be interesting to hear your point of views about this.
What I mean is, how old are the oldest freelancers? How long do they last in this profession?
Andy
Well spoken as a true human being, which most of us are at the end of the day.
I know how this "Loser" thing started, and thought it was funny at first. But now I am thinking about it more and more (probably due to a self complexion). How is it that society determines what is right or wrong? What makes my society correct and the other society wrong? How am I the loser for doing what I enjoy? Who is the loser below?
1. The guy married to a woman, 7 yrs older then him, and has sex with her 4-6 times a year.And who only married her because he knocked her up.
2. The guy that has never married and has 14 kids with 9 different women, and doesn't even have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in.
3. The guy that bought a hugh house, that cost him 60% of his pay check because the interest rate has adjusted?
4. The guy that got forclosed on?
5. The guy that was a CEO for a large company, that now how laid off 5,000 people. Or worst yet closed doors all together.
6. The CEO who makes 14 million a year, pays $800,000 to redo his office, who spends $40 million for a new jet, and then closes a factory due to a drop in sales.
7. The guy that is elected Govenor of a State and then tries selling a Senator's seat (after the Senator is elected president).
8. The guy who steals consently to buy drugs. Who never graduated from school. Who never held a jump for more then 1 year.
9. The guy who has never made more then $10 an hour.
10. The guy who will never buy, let a lone drive a BMW.
11. The girl who got knocked up at 14 yrs old.
12. The girl who dropped out of school, who only followed her families foot steps.
13. The girl who has $25k in credit card debit.
14. The girl who gets knocked up on a one night stand, and only knows the guy as John Doe. Who has 5 kids by 3 different guys.
15. The girl who marries the guy that beats her every day, and still loves stays with him.
16. The girl that eats Bon Bon's everyday, while watching Queen Oprah.
17. The girl who thinks buffalo have wings.
18. The girl who only has sex with her husband 4 times a year, and gives it to her husband on his birthday as a birthday present.
19. The girl that has 1 pair of shoes for each day of the month.
20. The girl whose favorite restuarant is McDonald's.
WTF.... just because I chase pussy, why does it make me a LOSER? I confess I am addicted to it like a crackhead is addicted to crack. I am guilty as charged. I am doing what makes me happy, and I am not doing anything that is hurting anyone else. Atleast I am in control of my finances enough that I can do it with out having to charge it on my credit card (which he/she would default in) or take a 2nd mortgage out to do it.
Enough said about Loser's. Refer to me as a guy pursuing the American Dream. I will now climb down off my soap box and take the back lash. M&M out!
[QUOTE=Mimonger]
1. The guy married to a woman, 7 yrs older then him, and has sex with her 4-6 times a year.And who only married her because he knocked her up.
2. The guy that has never married and has 14 kids with 9 different women, and doesn't even have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in.
3. The guy that bought a hugh house, that cost him 60% of his pay check because the interest rate has adjusted?
4. The guy that got forclosed on?
5. The guy that was a CEO for a large company, that now how laid off 5,000 people. Or worst yet closed doors all together.
6. The CEO who makes 14 million a year, pays $800,000 to redo his office, who spends $40 million for a new jet, and then closes a factory due to a drop in sales.
7. The guy that is elected Govenor of a State and then tries selling a Senator's seat (after the Senator is elected president).
8. The guy who steals consently to buy drugs. Who never graduated from school. Who never held a jump for more then 1 year.
9. The guy who has never made more then $10 an hour.
10. The guy who will never buy, let a lone drive a BMW.
11. The girl who got knocked up at 14 yrs old.
12. The girl who dropped out of school, who only followed her families foot steps.
13. The girl who has $25k in credit card debit.
14. The girl who gets knocked up on a one night stand, and only knows the guy as John Doe. Who has 5 kids by 3 different guys.
15. The girl who marries the guy that beats her every day, and still loves stays with him.
16. The girl that eats Bon Bon's everyday, while watching Queen Oprah.
17. The girl who thinks buffalo have wings.
18. The girl who only has sex with her husband 4 times a year, and gives it to her husband on his birthday as a birthday present.
19. The girl that has 1 pair of shoes for each day of the month.
20. The girl whose favorite restuarant is McDonald's.
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All of the above
[QUOTE=Mimonger]I know how this "Loser" thing started, and thought it was funny at first. But now I am thinking about it more and more (probably due to a self complexion). How is it that society determines what is right or wrong? What makes my society correct and the other society wrong? How am I the loser for doing what I enjoy? Who is the loser below?
1. The guy married to a woman, 7 yrs older then him, and has sex with her 4-6 times a year.And who only married her because he knocked her up.
2. The guy that has never married and has 14 kids with 9 different women, and doesn't even have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in.
3. The guy that bought a hugh house, that cost him 60% of his pay check because the interest rate has adjusted?
4. The guy that got forclosed on?
5. The guy that was a CEO for a large company, that now how laid off 5,000 people. Or worst yet closed doors all together.
6. The CEO who makes 14 million a year, pays $800,000 to redo his office, who spends $40 million for a new jet, and then closes a factory due to a drop in sales.
7. The guy that is elected Govenor of a State and then tries selling a Senator's seat (after the Senator is elected president).
8. The guy who steals consently to buy drugs. Who never graduated from school. Who never held a jump for more then 1 year.
9. The guy who has never made more then $10 an hour.
10. The guy who will never buy, let a lone drive a BMW.
11. The girl who got knocked up at 14 yrs old.
12. The girl who dropped out of school, who only followed her families foot steps.
13. The girl who has $25k in credit card debit.
14. The girl who gets knocked up on a one night stand, and only knows the guy as John Doe. Who has 5 kids by 3 different guys.
15. The girl who marries the guy that beats her every day, and still loves stays with him.
16. The girl that eats Bon Bon's everyday, while watching Queen Oprah.
17. The girl who thinks buffalo have wings.
18. The girl who only has sex with her husband 4 times a year, and gives it to her husband on his birthday as a birthday present.
19. The girl that has 1 pair of shoes for each day of the month.
20. The girl whose favorite restuarant is McDonald's.
WTF.... just because I chase pussy, why does it make me a LOSER? I confess I am addicted to it like a crackhead is addicted to crack. I am guilty as charged. I am doing what makes me happy, and I am not doing anything that is hurting anyone else. Atleast I am in control of my finances enough that I can do it with out having to charge it on my credit card (which he/she would default in) or take a 2nd mortgage out to do it.
Enough said about Loser's. Refer to me as a guy pursuing the American Dream. I will now climb down off my soap box and take the back lash. M&M out![/QUOTE]21. The guy and/or girl that can not SPELL.
[QUOTE=Andy Abs]I asked her did she like any part of her job. [/QUOTE]
I always wondered who could ask these questions... I guess I have my answer.
Why on earth would someone in their right mind ask a prostitute if she likes her job? hahaha what do you expect? her to tell you that she loves it, she's not in it for the money but because she likes to screw guys? get real
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I always wondered who could ask these questions... I guess I have my answer.
Why on earth would someone in their right mind ask a prostitute if she likes her job? hahaha what do you expect? her to tell you that she loves it, she's not in it for the money but because she likes to screw guys? get real[/QUOTE]
So are you telling us that when Mick Licker gives one of his MP prostitutes a nice long licking to orgasm, she doesn't really like that part of her job? :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I always wondered who could ask these questions... I guess I have my answer.
Why on earth would someone in their right mind ask a prostitute if she likes her job? hahaha what do you expect? her to tell you that she loves it, she's not in it for the money but because she likes to screw guys? get real[/QUOTE]
Ah come on Nic... lighten up a little. Are you still on injured reserve and have pent up frustration?
I'm sure we all know they don't enjoy their jobs (like tulip girls like banging two guys a day and taking up their arses by fat slobs...) and pick their jobs but I'm sure many ask the girls what they enjoy (cowgirl, BJ, Anal, etc...) doing or are good at. I know that even you try to make the session at least tolerable for the service provider even if others don't.
And I'm sure many of us have talked to girls why they are service providers over other jobs or functions or how they got into it or ended up at the place they work. And it is usually these relationships that get us freebie shots on these service providers outside of work time. And they and us actually can enjoy this part of the working relationship.
While we all know being a service provider is not their dream job there are many who have sponsors or are so fully booked that they can pick and choose their customers and get some enjoyment out of it. Heck I know many girls who have one to four customers / sponsors only... And they enjoy that much more then working at Big C for 7,000 baht a month.
Well, finally got back to BKK, arrived slightly late due to boarding out of SFO, late into TPE, but went right to the gate BKK, and off we went. Docked at 02:05, did my usual swift walk to Immigration, no waiting, 10 minutes for my bag and off to taxi stand. Once we got to his taxi, a bright orange new Toyota Atlas, inside he wanted 450 for everything "said he has been waiting a long time at the airport" I told him nicely please turn on the meter. But 03:00 I was checked into the Nana and out I walk along Sukhumvit to check things out. Around and around nothing finally it was around 04:00 and decided to just call it a night but decide to get some supplies at the 7/11 down Soi 4, came out and as I was walking back down to the hotel a drunk or on Yaba lady in her 30's came up and starting telling me feel her pussy it so wet! told to stroke her breast and that I could have her ST, for 500 baht or she would give me a bbbj right outside Hanahan's for 200baht. I decline not even with your dick i was thinking.
As I got rid of her I noticed a women sitting on a chair in the dark right outside of Hanahans she had a smile on her face cause I think she heard and said the whole thing. We both smile, laugh and started small talk... very white skin looked like a Korean but I was really attracted that she had a great pair of legs and the high heels really brought out the muscles in her calves. I was thinking the whole time have them around my back while I was f--king her. She said she was real tired having no customers and was about to call it a night herself. Small talk ended up 1000 baht ST. Back to the hotel we bathe, and DFK, to the bed great BBBJ around the balls and shaft just what I needed after LBM was cramp up for hours on the flight. We ended up 69, and LBM shot CIM. We both fell asleep thereafter naked. At 07:00 the alarm went off, I started to stroke her breast and ended up finishing her inside this time. Got off to a good start this time... gave her 2,000 it was worth it. Might call her tonight if nothing pops up.
LBM