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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Ummm, Rock...are you suggesting that women will purposefully condemn themselves to a lifetime of sex with a man they don't find attractive, just so that other women won't try to steal him????[/QUOTE]
No, he isn't. I am suggesting that!
And I didn't say that the wife didn't find him attractive, or at least attractive enough. I said the wife felt he wasn't attractive enough to be able to easily find women to be unfaithful with. He wasn't so attractive that other women were throwing themselves at him.
I guess you disagree? What are your comments then?
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Well, for a start, logic dictates that whatever the guy had that attracted *me* to him, could end up attracting someone else. Unless your guy is a 40 year old virgin when you hook up, the fact that he's slept with other women before you generally confims this theory.
Secondly - and this is only a generalisation - looks aren't necessarily a deciding factor in who a woman sleeps with. Most girls I know fall for that undefinable 'X-factor', rather than chiselled cheekbones or a nice arse. If your guy has that 'X-factor' something; be it his sense of humour, his charisma or, as constantly stated in this section, his money or power; other women are likely to find it sexy too.
And thirdly - he could always pay for sex with a hooker. Or get some tramp drunk at the local bar. Or help some desperate Uni student with her tuition fees. Fact is, if a man really wants to screw around on his wife, there will always be someone willing to help him out, regardless of his looks.
I think most hot women who hook up with average looking men, do it because THEY LOVE THEM. Because he's smart or funny or treats her like a princess. Because he's a good husband and provider. Because he'll make a good Dad. Whatever. I just can't see any woman consciously deciding to spend her life with someone she honestly believes is not smart/funny/cute/rich/hot enough to ever pick up anyone else.
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]
Secondly - and this is only a generalisation - looks aren't necessarily a deciding factor in who a woman sleeps with. Most girls I know fall for that undefinable 'X-factor', rather than chiselled cheekbones or a nice arse. If your guy has that 'X-factor' something; be it his sense of humour, his charisma or, as constantly stated in this section, his money or power; other women are likely to find it sexy too.
And thirdly - he could always pay for sex with a hooker. Or get some tramp drunk at the local bar. Or help some desperate Uni student with her tuition fees. Fact is, if a man really wants to screw around on his wife, there will always be someone willing to help him out, regardless of his looks. [/QUOTE]
RN, you have partly answered your own question. There is always that x-factor that will attract a woman to a certain man. However, it's the third point that you made that really confirms what I've been trying to say. Regardless of his looks, a man who wants a little variety will always be able to get some if he's sufficiently motivated.
Some women see a guy who isn't so great to look at..... and this actually makes him more attractive because of a false sense of security. This false sense of security comes from the WOMAN'S idea that the man is guaranteed to be faithful because of his looks. I've been trying to make the point that this is not always true.
Rock
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Faithfull
Come on people.
It is impossible for either sex to sustain a committed and monogamous relationship.
Both men and women will eventually stray. Although it is normally the man first, Buts let not be ostriches.
Human beings are like most other animals and not designed to mate for life.
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[QUOTE=Sasha Coffee]Come on people.
It is impossible for either sex to sustain a committed and monogamous relationship.
Both men and women will eventually stray. Although it is normally the man first, Buts let not be ostriches.
Human beings are like most other animals and not designed to mate for life.[/QUOTE]
Sasha, well put!!
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Rock
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So true.
There's ample anthropological/biological/ethological evidence that both are meant to stray. For men it means spreading seed as widely as possible to ensure his genes are carried on. For women it means taking in as much variety as possible to increase chances of at least some offspring surviving. This means the woman will sneak out to be impregated by a man she finds exciting (aggressive, strong, etc) and then "bond" (haha) with another man who is more nurturing, providing, and will act the good father, raising the other guy's kids.
We evolved this way.
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Y'all right
I think there is an exception to each rule. There are faithful and unfaithful humans (men or women). Personally, I have never cheated on a girl call me whatever you want to call me but it's the truth. When I loved I made love and I felt different. I am talking about my own exprience. Though, I had the chance to cheat on her (one of my lovers). This lover girl drove me crazy. I made her jeoulous and took her friend home. I kept on talking about my lover girl and did not have sex with her friend though she gave me a bj.
I felt it's pure sex.
[QUOTE=Sasha Coffee]Come on people.
It is impossible for either sex to sustain a committed and monogamous relationship.
Both men and women will eventually stray. Although it is normally the man first, Buts let not be ostriches.
Human beings are like most other animals and not designed to mate for life.[/QUOTE]What you say is true but not all the time. As per the other members discussions both are valid. Only statistics can tell which opinion is more valid but there are things that can't be quantified as looks or taste. No offense but I do not like, not attracted to, black women. She might be very pretty but it's a personal thing.
Just a thought
Sasha have you seen the movie? It's nice thoughtful comedy.
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[QUOTE=Dr X Man]I think there is an exception to each rule. There are faithful and unfaithful humans (men or women). Personally, I have never cheated on a girl call me whatever you want to call me but it's the truth. When I loved I made love and I felt different. I am talking about my own exprience. Though, I had the chance to cheat on her (one of my lovers). This lover girl drove me crazy. I made her jeoulous and took her friend home. I kept on talking about my lover girl and did not have sex with her friend though she gave me a bj.
I felt it's pure sex.
What you say is true but not all the time. As per the other members discussions both are valid. Only statistics can tell which opinion is more valid but there are things that can't be quantified as looks or taste. No offense but I do not like, not attracted to, black women. She might be very pretty but it's a personal thing.
Just a thought
Sasha have you seen the movie? It's nice thoughtful comedy.[/QUOTE]
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I have been faithful, its quite easy actually. I only started talking to other women (online) when I felt I could do better than my current gf. There was basically nothing wrong with her, just a weight issue that until pushed wasn't going to solve itself. In the end, she still wasn't all I needed (key word - NEED) , even though she lost quite of bit of weight, there were other issues about her personality that bothered me more.
I can be satified, I know what I need.
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Hahahaa!
DrX, your real name must be Clinton. You had your dick in her mouth, and she sucked on it until you had an orgasm....... but that wasn't sex.
I guess that means all across the nation, guys like us are paying $$$ to not have sex either :D
Rock
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[QUOTE=Sasha Coffee]It is impossible for either sex to sustain a committed and monogamous relationship. [/QUOTE]
Then why is it that there are MANY who do sustain monogmous relationships?
Because some people CAN'T find willing mates outside their relationship.
[QUOTE=Sasha Coffee]
Human beings are like most other animals and not designed to mate for life.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. But my point was NEVER about design or desire for other mates. It was about CAPABILITY of finding and keeping other mates.
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Uh huh sure, not sex. Reminds me of all the religious fanatics who've done handjobs, BJ's, even anal intercourse, yet claim to be virgins. This shows the dangers of strict puritanical rules on sex. It always leads to seeking loopholes to get around all our retarded rules and conventions.
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OH no!
After having been raked over the coals by his divorce. After pissing and moaning on the air about marriage. The King of all media, who proclaimed he would never marry again, got engaged to his long time GF, Beth O. It goes to show that if you have what they want, especially money..the tender trap will wait you out, wear you down and pull you in- no matter how long it takes.
Let's be careful out there...
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Ok yes, she gave me a BJ but I did not even get a hard on. I was thinking about my female friend at that time. That was the time I realized she loves me and I love her. It's her jealousy.
I did not disagree with you or Sasha either.
[QUOTE=Rock Dog]Hahahaa!
DrX, your real name must be Clinton. You had your dick in her mouth, and she sucked on it until you had an orgasm....... but that wasn't sex.
I guess that means all across the nation, guys like us are paying $$$ to not have sex either :D
Rock[/QUOTE]
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If That Was Me
If I was really rich.... let's say in the 10 to 50 million dollar range, I wouldn't under any circumstances EVER get married.
I'd have a series of long-term girlfriends, but I'd also fuck whatever attractive women I could. I'd fuck them wherever and whenever they'd let me..... which would be quite often seeing as I was so rich. When the long-term GF's got pissed off about this, I'd trade em in no problem at all.
Kids? Just pay some healthy woman with a good set of ovaries to have some for me. I'd even come around to visit once in awhile. But never, would I ever get married. How these rich guys ( who are presumedly supposed to be smarter than me) keep getting sucked into these arrangements is totally beyond me. Ah well.
Rock
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[QUOTE=Rock Dog] But never, would I ever get married. How these rich guys ( who are presumedly supposed to be smarter than me) keep getting sucked into these arrangements is totally beyond me. Ah well.
Rock[/QUOTE]
That is because the sex prison goes away when you have enough money. It even becomes a sex paradise! When I was a teen in high school, I worked in a hospital on week-ends with dozens of other teen-agers.
We would see all kinds of young doctors getting played by the nurses! These guys spent every waking moment studying in med school. Now they finish and do their residencies in hospitals and all the young unmarried nurses go after them like vultures after road kill. Most of the docs are so naive they don't know what is happening. Some play the nurses right back.
The problems start after the nurses marry them. You should see the wives of the some of the seasoned doctors. You would wonder what a man could see in them, and their personalities are worse than their looks.
But when these nurses were young, they were hot enough to distract a new doctor and hook him. Ordinary guys don't get that kind of treatment so we don't understand how rich guys can marry.