[QUOTE=Kamelyoussef]Hi,
Can anyone suggest of other destenation which are similar to Brazil?[/QUOTE]The thing that everyone wants to know ! lol.
After you RTFF's Go find some and report back.
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[QUOTE=Kamelyoussef]Hi,
Can anyone suggest of other destenation which are similar to Brazil?[/QUOTE]The thing that everyone wants to know ! lol.
After you RTFF's Go find some and report back.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]
The receptionists at 4x4 can go fuck themselves........nothing but thieving pieces of shit![/QUOTE]
They tried again on monday, but i was ready for them and immediately informed them that I wanted all of change. I think I will say something to the mangaer on thursday, they are both cool guys who i think will listen.
Also the locker girl approached me asking for a tip when i was changing back into my street clothes. Sylvia never asked for a tip and all this girl did was bring me my robe and slippers, nothing deserving of a tip!
At least the door man has stopped asking for a tip when i leave. I said `why dont you ever ask brasilians for a tip? ` he just gave me a mean look.
[QUOTE=Bravo]They tried again on monday, but i was ready for them and immediately informed them that I wanted all of change. I think I will say something to the mangaer on thursday, they are both cool guys who i think will listen.
Also the locker girl approached me asking for a tip when i was changing back into my street clothes. Sylvia never asked for a tip and all this girl did was bring me my robe and slippers, nothing deserving of a tip!
At least the door man has stopped asking for a tip when i leave. I said `why dont you ever ask brasilians for a tip? ` he just gave me a mean look.[/QUOTE]
You must have been there the same time I was there. I am definitely going to speak to the managers next time.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Boate Subsolo / ex-Subway (Centro - Av. Rio Branco, 14 - Subsolo), just over Av. Pres Vargas. Close to a bunch of Termas like T31, MV 30, etc.
For those of you that miss Help there is a poor substitute in centro. A lot of the centro terma girls go there after close. Opens around 11.30 pm or so. I have been there 2 or 3 times, there is not really a cover, just a consumption which isn't much. Need to be very careful with the waiters, they will try and rip you off as much as possible. My rule is when I go to a new place I drink beer or coke and make sure the bill can't be run up too much. Anyway, girls will usually take R$80 or so, thats what the Brazilian guys will get, they will of course start at R$200 os do. Most go to the motel Sao Bento accross the street which is R$30 or so, depending on what you want. It is pretty crappy but ok. There are no rooms on the premise. You can take a girl back to copacabana for the night of course, although I don't.
Maybe 50 girls on a decent night, much closer than Barra. Be careful in this area at night, definitely cab it, it is crack city after 11.00pm. Open Mon- Friday although do not go Monday, it is dead!
Good place to get down and dirty in Rio De Janeiro............[/QUOTE]It's definitely a hole - almost literally, in fact - but it's worth seeing just because it's a part of carioca history. Together with Florida in Praça Mauá, it's the longest running clip joint in town, established, IIRC, in the 1930s.
The current decor looks to have been laid over the original decor in the 1970s or do. It was apparently a very happening joint in the early 1970s. A Help of the times.
[QUOTE=Kamelyoussef]Hi,
Can anyone suggest of other destenation which are similar to Brazil?[/QUOTE]
In Spain there are maybe a dozen places like Help. The one I remember was the one in Casteldefells in Barcelona. Unfortunately it's been closed too. Still there are many other ones left, especially around Madrid.
Then the River Palace in Kiev, Ukraine ... closed too!
Another option are the fabulous FKK's in Germany. There are some in Switzerland too.
Also a few discos in Prague, Czech Republic.
Maybe the discos on the "Corniche" in Morocco.
And in Africa, there might be a many too.
Surely, I have missed some ...
:(
[QUOTE=Kamelyoussef]Hi,
Can anyone suggest of other destenation which are similar to Brazil?[/QUOTE]
No there are not! There's nothing like Brasil. Or even (as far as I know) ho discos the size of Help. But for a major monger environment with very little else you can try Angeles City. (Simplified description) : Not a disco, just a large village of go-go bars with carry out, enough hotels to park your ass, and middle-rate food so you have something to do when not shagging and ogling.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]No there are not! There's nothing like Brasil. Or even (as far as I know) ho discos the size of Help. But for a major monger environment with very little else you can try Angeles City. (Simplified description) : Not a disco, just a large village of go-go bars with carry out, enough hotels to park your ass, and middle-rate food so you have something to do when not shagging and ogling.[/QUOTE]
Nothing like it that I know of. Help had a unique blend of characteristics. You could sit outside and enjoy the ambiance of Copacabana with drinks, food, girls etc. at TA. And you could go inside and indulge the illusion (and sometimes the reality) of exquisite non or semi pros at great value.
In terms of size, certainly Cyclone in Dubai was larger and it had the freelancers. Strange place BTW because the Chinese and Russian gdps divided the place down the middle and didn't ever cross the center line.
But it is closed now.
Thailand has many places much larger although not under one roof. I particularly like Phuket for the homey feeling.
There are spots in Jakarta as well.
[QUOTE=Christopherd] Or even (as far as I know) ho discos the size of Help.[/QUOTE]
Love Story is a bit smaller but 100 times better than Help was.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story is a bit smaller but 100 times better than Help was.[/QUOTE]
Where is Love Story?
MCruddy
[QUOTE=MCruddy]Where is Love Story?
MCruddy[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo. Rua Araujo (Republica). It's a total morgue until 3 am and then it rocks till 8 am, later on weekends.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url]
[QUOTE=MCruddy]Where is Love Story?
[/QUOTE]
There was a Love Story in SP.
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=404307&postcount=8[/url]
Seems Prosal mentioned this before
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1049999&postcount=4834[/url]
But as far as anyone can tell he hasn't been to Brasil for a long time anyway, so usual precautions if you have joined recently. ;)
Here's an [url="http://static1.unlike.net/system/photos/0041/0256/LovStory.jpg?1234621742"]old picture[/url]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]But as far as anyone can tell he hasn't been to Brasil for a long time anyway, so usual precautions if you have joined recently. ;)[/QUOTE]Your anxiousness to badmouth about others and to show to the world how you are "Brasil specialist" make you once more talk out your ass (as the poster Dwilso39 who posted this nonsense). Love Story is open and rocking. There have been reports about it this very last week on GP Guia.
Also, FYI, I've been to SP relatively recently.
For fans of loud music and available girls, if you are not that interested in Brasil for its own sake or the Brasilian women, places like Dollhouse in AC are about the size of Help, and the whole of the AC monger area is many times the size as there are countless venues like Dollhouse. It's a bit like an open-air cattle ranch if that's what you fancy. Patpong only a village full instead of one street. There is a big proper disco or two there as well, but it's a bit time wasting when girls can be had without the same preliminaries outside and a lot of them just go there to relax after work. More or less anyone in AC is a working girl unless it's obvious she's not. But that belongs to the Philippines board. I prefer Brasil, with or without Help.
[QUOTE=MCruddy]Where is Love Story?
MCruddy[/QUOTE]Love Story. Rua Araujo 232 (with Avenida Ipiranga)
Centro Sao Paulo
More at: [url]http://totalspguide.com/post/1145/Love-Story/[/url]
Love Story, imho, is like Help but with good music, better looking girls and without tourists. And the important fact that, not all the girls are hookers.
Worth the visit. It's where all the girls from Cafe Photo, Bomboa, Kilt, and other clubs… end the night. Some looking for clients. Some just for fun.
Add to that a lot of trendy types, musicians, drug dealers, transvestites and regular patrons. Weird mix!
Best days: Monday (Segunda Feira) to Thursday (Quinta).
I copy from [url]http://totalspguide.com[/url]
End-of-the-night point for prostitutes, rent boys and associated partygoers (but not strictly confined to this demographic), Love Story has developed quite an international reputation thanks to the celebrities who've staggered in and out of its doors.
Nick Cave regularly frequented it while living in Sao Paulo and British tech-house producers Layo & Bushwacka! named a track after a visit. Deafeningly loud electronic house music keeps the audience buzzed and hot, and more inspired patrons climb onto raised podiums to shake loose body parts around strip poles.
With two floors and numerous bars at which drinks will set you back R$15 each. At some point you'll likely have to broach the precarious subject of asking whether the person you're chatting up is, ahem, working or not.
Weekends can get busy, so you'll have to face every partygoer's usual quandry: How to arrive fashionably late—the party peaks between 4 a.m. and 5 a.m.—without risking an interminable wait in line.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
That's the common sport at 4x4 is asking tips, is a thing the manager at 4x4 should definetely know ... imho ![/QUOTE]
This is weird, no one asks me for tips there. Maybe you're known for giving them and that's why they hit you up for tips. I give them at Luomo and Bar Florida to the towel ladies, but not at 4x4 for whatever reason.
Last time at 4x4 during the 4:50 pm scramble for free entry sessions, they were out of cabines and gave me a suite for the cabine price. No insinuations of an increased price for the better room. 4x4 isn't so bad to everyone. Maybe you look wealthy due to your style of clothes or watch. I remember Johnny Bravo posting about wearing Armani suits and a nice watch all about Rio. Brave man.
Now, last time in Bar Florida I was a little distracted when coming out of the cabine and forgot my tip to the towel lady. I was told by one of the male staff that I was to give the towel lady "um presente", as he put it. I wouldn't skip the tip under those conditions, even if I wanted to. It's a long dark walk back to Ibis Centro, and a lot of the club friends hanging out with the doorman off-and-on. :). Besides, I feel sorry for the towel ladies. They are usually older and/or unattractive but have to watch the pretty younger garotas go back and forth to the cabines raking in cash all night long. It must be depressing for them.
On this topic of money for nothing: In VM, I had just sessioned a girl and she left the room while I was dressing. Then another girl snuck in the room and insisted that I owed her for a session. When it became clear that I wasn't going to pay her for doing nothing, she lowered it to a tip. Then she blocked the door and I ended up having to push my way out of the room. I had a similar incident in Jakarta, where I had to end the session before it started because the girl changed her mind about pix, then insisted on cab fare plus half the session..after much coercion, I got her out of the room with only cab fare..then she stood outside my hotel room banging on the door and screaming about me being a pervert who wanted to post pictures of her body on the net. She was right, she would have been right over in the ISG JKT pix thread with the others I posted. But she agreed to pix when I took her from the bar, so it was a dealbreaker and she had to go. My first time in JKT on a spontaneous trip with no time for planning or knowledge of the local culture, so I was thinking that maybe the Shariah police would show up at my door with some charge and 50 lashes! So I drank Bintang until I passed out to forget..No sex that night, but it was an interesting experience nonetheless. Every girl in P4P seems to have some scam, sooner or later.
On Love Story down in Sampa: Mike Tyson picked up girls there right before he got into the hotel brawl a few years ago. If Tyson hangs there it must be okay unless something has changed! I am sure his options and budget are unlimited, i.e. Kilt, Cafe Foto. Mind your ears.