Hello Saint. Enjoyed your reports greatly. Definately gonna make my next trip Brazilian one. What is that Club******* you guys talking about? Cause I would like to contibute definately:P
E-mail me at dkzzzz@yahoo.com
Thank you.
Keep up a good work.
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Hello Saint. Enjoyed your reports greatly. Definately gonna make my next trip Brazilian one. What is that Club******* you guys talking about? Cause I would like to contibute definately:P
E-mail me at dkzzzz@yahoo.com
Thank you.
Keep up a good work.
mohctep, what is the word for man in Spanish?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thor
[i]mohctep, what is the word for man in Spanish? [/i][/QUOTE]
Gringo? ******
I said it before and I'll say it again. I could care less what you guys say or think. NONE of you is going to change my attitudes or the way I do things. I'm my own person. I'm in no way going to change the market so relax and quit bitching. The reality is the vast reality of you complaining will never even visit S. America.
In fact, I wasn't going to even post this on WSG at all. I've found there are alot of guys that complain about everything. The **** site is blocked out. It's a private site I belong to. Email me and I'll give you the link. Saintofba@aol.com. I've never had ANY of those guys complain about anything and most of my true friends are on that board.
My Rio girl is here with me now. She is taking a nap after the long day and night we spent. I can tell you that the money I spent on her paid for itself 1 million times over. She has a visa and passport and is visiting me in April for a few weeks. Like I said..I could care less what you think.
One person is not going to change the market. I could have very easily kept my prices out but I'm an honest guy and I'll put what actually happened. For you thankless pikers.....you'll be the ones to blame once guys stop posting on these free sites altogether. I know many I talk to have already stopped posting on free sites.
I'm having the time of my life. Like I said...most of the girls didn't ask for that much money. Out of 25+ girls I did in Rio ...who cares if I decided to spoil one or two of them. The plain reality is that many of you probably wish you could be me right now...and if you don't......you should. Ha, ha.
Good luck....friends and foes.
Saint
Well, Saint, you may have overpaid, but you had the chicks climbing all over you, apparently. And one wanted to have your baby! Shit, maybe I'll try overpaying next time I go to Rio.
The expression, by the way, is "I couldn't care less". Common mistake.
JB, I was trying to help him out with ******! thor
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thor
[i]JB, I was trying to help him out with ******! thor [/i][/QUOTE]
Who cares about ******!!!
Long Live Jackson and the WSG!!!
----rio
just recently got back from a 5 week vacation in brazil and this is my first real chance to post to wsg on rio. (sorry no information on christmas and new years, as i left before the holidays began). since i had an airbus pass, i had the opportunity to visit recife, fortaleza (see post), manaus and salvador. this was one of my better visits, as i was able to compare some interesting facts and trivia regarding rio vs. other cities. will try to post on these other cities.
the moment you fly into brazilian air space, you feel this indescribable feeling. for me it starts with my skin becoming moist and delightfully sweaty and then works it way down to a swelling libido. it’s magical and the feeling doesn’t seem to end until you leave brazilian air.
so i am back and its great to be back. all sounds, sights and smells of rio, come rushing back, the good the bad and the ugly. i’ve been coming to brazil since 1990 (the good ole days), but was committed in a several relationships up until 2000 (the new millennium). thank heavens i came to my scenes.
so i fly down from canada and for me it’s a 24 hour trip (vancouver-la-miami-rio). yeah! i know it a ways to come, but rio is worth it, imho (i would have traveled for three days to get here). i hit the airport and there are the usual “cambio” and “taxi” hustlers, hounding you for some business. if you’re a fugal traveler like myself and want to spend your hard earned cash on the skirts rather than the taxis, you’ll make like a veteran tourist or regular brazilian and take the bus. taxis will want about r$40 to copacabana. the bus is about r$5 and takes about 45 min to 1 hour.
as for cash, i used the atm at the airport, with my visa card (which i prepaid prior with a couple thousand, thereby eliminating any interest payments). the bradesco bank atms will recognize an english visa cards and will then use english instructions. depending on what time you arrive, there should be “cambio” hustlers or actually “cambio” exchanges in the airport. i relied on the atm, but also brought a little us$ dollars just in case the atms were down.
note: the airport is a terrific place to find information. they usually speak english at the information desk and tell you where everything is. i usually ask a ton of questions. i also pick up free maps and information booklets of the city and tourist sites.
note: my portuguese, needs work, but is growing and i can manage, basic conversation for the most part. i recommend, learning as much portuguese as possible for the best maximum experience and meeting the best looking skirts for romantic, hot sex or gf experience.
note: basic prices are quoted from memory and are basically all within + or - r$10. you also pay more for long periods of time and luxury rooms.
---rio termas
as much as i love the termas, i have done enough of them to realize what i want, depending on what kind of playfully mood a happen to be in. typically, i am interested in a gf type or non-jaded (semi-pro) garota experience (at least at the price they’re asking). this can be tough to find at a termas, since most are pros but ever so often there some gems. so i typically attend termas for rest, relaxation and lots of eye candy. with the remote possibility the gf girl of my dreams. at any rate, i personally find them getting too expensive for only 40 min to 1 hour engagements. although i do admit the garotas (girls) in the termas are some of the best rio.
rio antiga (flamingo) was a new termas for me to try. i heard good things (from the guys who i rented the apartment from), so off i went to try it out. enter=r$40/girl=r$100. nothing special your basic average termas. girls were about average that evening, with one or two stunners. they were friendly, as i received a number of hand massages below the belt of my robe. didn’t do a session with any girls, as i was content with being entertained in the disco. about 25-35 girls
monte carlo (copacabana) e=r$40/g=r$110. wanted to hookup with one of the twins again, but didn’t see any of them, both times that i went looking. 1st time, didn’t see any garotas worth having and the 2nd time took a sexy mulata with a butt to die for. she was the reason i missed my flight back to canada. not that i wanted to go anyway.
btw, does anyone know where the twins have gone, that were at monte carlo about a year ago?
4x4 (centro) e=r$30/e=$130. this was the happening place. garotas like you wouldn’t believe. about 50 –60 girls. definitely had the best girls in rio, out of all the termas i went to on this trip. this place gets packed to the rafters with the business crowd, so get there early. the shows, which i don’t usually care for, where for the most part interestingly different, as some audience participation was encouraged. can’t comment any girl sessions, but an abundance of 8s to 10s.
rosario 65 (centro) e=r$45/g=r$130. disappointing, since i was so impressed with the caliber of garotas last year. after 1 hour, i was out there and headed for 4x4, which happens to be a couple of blocks away.
centuras (ipanema) e=??/g=??. didn’t go this time out. went last year and was not impressed. over priced and overrated. the caliber of garotas here, can easily be found at other termas. not sure why it’s often rated as the premier termas.
solarium (jardim botanica) e=r$40, r$90 (wed.)/g=r$110. i love exploring and finding new and different experiences when traveling. wednesday nights at solarium, sure did cum through. hooked up with mr.sob777 for some swingers action at solarium, where swinging couples are allowed on wednesdays. witnessed some very interesting sh*t in the dry and wet saunas, as some gang bang type scenarios took place. i personally groped some t&a, while more serious body slapping doing the wild thing, took place. these free for all sex sessions happened several times during the course of the evening with different couples. if the couple likes you enough, i was told, they may ask you to join them in a room. wow!! i think sundays are swinging couples only, but i didn’t get a chance to check it out, with a date.
beach girls formally ?? (copacabana) e=r$20/g=r$50. garotas were below average with one or two above average. only about 8 girls working, as they are trying to build up the business. but they were very friendly and worked hard to pleasure you for the business. would not recommend this termas for the girls. however, i think this maybe the only termas that allows you to get nasty in the sauna with a girl. i had never fu*ked in the saunas before, so i had to try, especially after my semi-sauna action at solarium.
mr. sob777, was with me at the time, so we both, having never done this before, got wild and nasty. we both agreed it was a great experience, as we both got to sample each others garotas, in the wet heat. this termas is worth mentioning for some cheap relaxation and great sauna action if you happen to find a hottie working there. one last thing, make sure you have plenty of energy, before hand, as sex in the sauna will literally suck (forgive the pun) your energy dry.
l’uomo (copacabana) didn’t get a chance to visit, but i heard good things. maybe next time.
something else worth mentioning was some orgy party action i was often asked to participate in. as we got to meet other men (non wsg members) mostly brasilaros (as opposed to tourists from other countries), they would ask us to grab a skirt you wanted to do the nasty with and come and join them in one of the big luxury rooms. wow!! this happened a number of times where 3 to 4 couples would get into a big orgy. wow!! what a way to maximize your bang for your bucks and fu*k, more than one girl at a time. i didn’t partake in the affairs, but will consider this option next time.
i will occasionally, find a garota i like and discretely get her number (assuming you’ve developed a connection) and date her outside of the termas. this is a more cost effective solution and often leads to a better gf experience then a quickie at the temas.
thanks to mr.sob777, for the great times at 4x4, solarium and especially beach girls. you were lots of fun to hang with and like myself, you loved to explore new things and venture into new realms.
---help disco
not much to say about help disco, that hasn’t alredy been said. i’ll say this much though, the garotas at help sure are asking for some premium dollars. i just laughed and reminded the garotas that this was brazil and not america or europe. i had to laugh when quoted anywhere from r$400-r$200. do i have “idiot” painted on my forehead?
i never did take a girl from help. don’t get me wrong, i was there almost every night of my stay (mostly because i do enjoy the “eye candy” and love to dance) and there were an endless number of hotties that i liked and wanted to get “jiggy with”. i just couldn’t bring myself to pay the premium dollars they were asking. not when there were lots of young 20 year old hard body sw on avendia atlantica, from r$50-r$80 for 1-1.5 hrs. wow!!
what was even funnier, were the ugly girls at help. they were asking between r$300 and r$150. somehow the collective thinking of the girls at help, is to demand premium dollars, just because they are in help disco. not!! i think it was a collective effort too, because none of them, i talked with would go below r$150.
but wait, it gets better. many of the same girls i had talked to earlier that wanted r$300-r$150, often left help alone and then began trying to seek some action outside of help, along avendia altantica. just like the regular sw. but this time they were only asking r$60-150. this is my spiders web, in which i trap my prey. i realize i don’t always get the garotas when i want, but i am a patient spider. it’s a game, right! and the garotas know this all to well. knowing how to play the game is part of fun.
--- other termas, discos and considerations
one of the things i really enjoyed about my time in rio, was that i was able to explore downtown i lot more. found various underground vendors selling bootleg merchandice and knock-off commercial goods and clothing. several vendors caught my interest selling software cds for r$10 – r$20 (microsoft office, windows xp, norton utilities …etc) basic plethora of black-market activity. needless to say, i picked up some great deals. vendors are located near the carioca subway station. (subway details are on the map that you pick up at the airport)
due to some downtown exploration (and a great deal of luck and happenstance), i found what might be considered to some two new termas. its possible they may have be been mentioned briefly before previous post. so as i explored and found these gems downtown, i started to wonder how many more of these clubs exist. they are not “rich” as 4x4, rosario 65, but still have a very nice charm to them. what i truly love about some of these places was they put you more in touch with the common ordinary man. ok! ok! i know i’m full sh*t. the real reason was that it was reasonably priced.
the first is located just around the corner from the florida and scandinavia boites on rua do acre and i think its called 10-10 (10-23) termas. the second is located on the main drag avenida rua branco (on a side street), just opposite the manhattan bank building (close to rua do ouvido and rua do setembro). i forget the name, but it has blue neon signage, which isn’t hard to miss. both open around 4pm.
both termases, e=r$10 (which gives you 3 drinks beers, soda and/or juice), g=r$50 for 40 min. or r$70 for 1 hour. the good thing is, no stupid mini robes with your dick hanging out. you get to keep wearing you own street clothes. the girls range from 6s to the odd 9. each termas has about 15 to 20 girls (depending on the night). no saunas or major changing areas, just two bars and rooms upstairs. one slow lounging bar to talk, (which is great when you don’t won’t to listen to the loud blaring techno), and the other a fast disco bar. no big sales pressures either.
these were my kind of termas. i had lot of fun at these termas for cheap and the girls were very friendly. i went to each one twice and had several garotas each time. what a bargin at r$50!! especially when you found a real hottie!! since they were in relatively close walking distance (about 6 blocks from each other) once i finished in one i hit the other (take a taxi if your squirmiest about walking downtown). all in all, some great fun to be had at a bargin.
i did get hooked (several times) on this one brunette mulata, named natalie. she was about 4 foot 6 inches, very small and petit, but stacked nicely where it counts. amazingly beautiful body and very agile between the sheets and fu*ked like a minsk in heat. she was even better the second time around, if you can believe that. wow!!
for those of you who like pro/semi-pro older women, also just around the corner from the florida and scandinavia boites on avenida rua branco, but before you get to avendia presidente vargas, there is a disco (not exactly sure of the name), but worth checking out. most of the women, i believe were on the program, however the pickings were very slim. many of the business men snapped up the best older mama senioritas, at about 11:30pm when i strolled in to checkout the place. they wanted r$15 cover charge. i looked around for 5-10 min. and left, due to other arrangements. worth a peek, if this is your thing!
i found a forro dance club (copacabana) near to the apartment i was staying at. located at av. n.s copacabana and rua republic do peru (towards rua paula fretias). entrance fee is r$6 - r$8, depending on the day. best days are usually thursday thru sunday. lots of the poorer local cariocas party here. there were 1 or 2 cuties, but most garotas (about 35 to 50) were mostly 5s to 7s. most girls seemed approachable and were probably semi-pro action. if you’ve got game and your portuguese isn’t too bad, there are some interesting possibilities for gf type action. i was partially successful as i almost left with one nicely intoxicated honey. this with limited portuguese, a smile and some lubrication. it did work 100%, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
downtown rio was a great experience and has a lot to offer. take the subway from copacabana and exit at the carioca station (which is approximately the center of downtown). best to go during the day and take some time and go on a walk-about and get familiar with downtown surroundings.
---rio commentary
rio, will always be my favorite place to chase the skirts and garotas. however, after comparisons with other brazilian cites (notably fortaleza and to some degree recife), wh*re mongering in rio is getting expensive. i think the garotas, termas and businesses in rio are trying to keep on par with the us$ and adjusting their rates as if they were opec. personally, i think they will eventually price themselves out of the market. but sadly, there will always be gringos who will pay this. so their attitudes invariably turn to one of excessive greed and fast money. brazilians are well known for their quality of sexual hospitality, but in rio i think they’ve gotten away from this.
most of my fu*king came from sw along av. altantic, n.s copacabana, rua prado junior and downtown around florida and scandinavia boites. there were lot of sw, that are dogs, but there were also a lot of gems to found, if your willing to explore a little. i personally thought there were a number of sw on av altantic, as hot as many of the girls in help. of course much of this will depend on how you like to do your garota pussy chasing. i like a good bang for my buck, with the option of potential gf possibilities.
i also thought many garotas, are not only starting to sound like american women (gimme, gimme, gimme), but are starting to look like them as well (at least in one aspect). this year more than any other year (at least so it seemed to me), brazilian women have grown “beer guts”. what is with the “beer gut”? yikes!! i guess when the price of water is about the same as beer, you drink beer because it’s just not sexy to drink water.
having said all that, i would like to say that rio, help disco and carioca women, will also be near and dear to my heart. i am only thankful there is enough variety and caliber of women, elsewhere, providing you’re willing to explore a little outside some of the more well known tourist sex venues.
just my two cents worth of thoughts, insights and experiences!!
to each their own and happy hunting!!
ciao
spidy
Good report Spidy.
The twins were working at terma Aeroporto in Centro as of last May.
The correct prices at Monte Carlo are 50reals for entry and 140 reals for 40 min. with girl of your choice in small cramped room. Monte Carlo is So-So compared to other Termas', Centaurus Prices are 290 Reals that covers entry,room, and 40 min. with girl of your choice, and by the way the room is a nice clean big room at Centaurus and the girls are good looking if you don't mind the price. Great Post Spidy, I wanted to post the right up to date prices..
I would say that Monte Carlo Termas is more geared to Tourists since in their advertisement they say the front desk girls speak English, Italian, and one or two more Languages,inflated prices for Tourists but to each his own. Spidy I am interested in the two New Termas you mentioned in your Post, do you remember how far from the Carioca Subway Station they are and any walking Directions from the Station?? do you have any exact address' Thanks..
I agree with Spidy's comments on Help. I have been to Rio twice. I have just got back to the UK this morning. There are just a few gems in the crowded Help market place and the asking price, in my experience seems to be uniformly USD100/BR300. The two I took out were nothing special.
I did go to Centarus and had an amazing time but of course it was not cheap. I think the whole evening costed me about BR900 for 2 girls plus all the drinks and upgraded room. Both girls were excellent though and outperformed their Help counterparts in every respect. I did speak with another girl - a very cute 18 year old - whom I declined as she was too business like - and she too offered BBBJ. So I deduced that BBBJ is the norm here but worth asking for upfront to avoid dissappointment. The Help girls provided CBJ only.
jamesbond69-stop being a jerk!
I was trying to respond to a specific question from mohctep, and help him out, and it had nothing to do with you.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thor
[i]jamesbond69-stop being a jerk!
I was trying to respond to a specific question from mohctep, and help him out, and it had nothing to do with you. [/i][/QUOTE]
The guy who set up WSF (disclosure: I know him and he's a great guy) has provided us all with a great FREE service.
Clearly for his own reasons he has blocked out certain words and I think that should be respected. If someone knows those words and wants to share them that's fine but I suggest you do it privately, in respect to the founder.
Yeah, kind of sad to say, but I do have to agree that the prices at Help! have been creeping up. On my next visit I am going to do the termas for sure, which I never have, AND I think I will check out some of the more out of the way places, such as those that Spidey mentions. I would like to see more posts with this kind of information. Regarding SW's, I always thought the common wisdom was to stay away from them, not only because of lower quality, but also for safety reasons, and because many of them are transvestites. Perhaps now there are some decent SW's?