[QUOTE=Optimist;1402432]Despite my moniker[/QUOTE]Who is this girl?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1402432]Despite my moniker[/QUOTE]Who is this girl?
[QUOTE=Optimist;1402432]The reason the girl had tears in her eyes was probably that she had found a nice customer and felt able to let go a little. When this happens maybe the customer should be pleased to have brought a little safety for the girl for a few minutes? And just think - if you got to know most individuals at an intimate level you will find they have tears in their eyes about some great sadness or problem in their lives. So these girls are not so different to the majority of us - they have just risen to a challenge of their very difficult economic circumstances.[/QUOTE]Ah Optimist, you are really a very wise man with a lot of sensibility and experience.
One ex wife of mine had a true university degree and left the job as soon as she finished paying her manager. One of my current wifes, who's for my taste one of the most striking girls I ever met, she got brain and had an absolutely normal life before her "late" start in this job. So why these things happen? I know the truth behind these two girls but this is not relevant, what makes the difference is when you are the one who sees the tears in their eyes.
There are many different stories behind any of these girls, as you all report and tell. For sure, as also Kommodore said in one of his posts on an other thread, it is our choice if we prefer to enjoy this hobby living a fairytale or simply looking straight into reality. I enjoy this hobby and I would never give it up for whatever reason but, at the same time, I always preferred reality to fairytales since when I was 9 years old.
I have read with interest the previous discussion and agree with most of it. Not much to add, so I will just report my visit to Arabella yesterday evening.
Arrived around 8 am, very quiet. 5-6 punters, about 12 girls. Paid my 90 euros for 2 sessions, was shown around by a tall german girl, Sandra, who speaks a bit of english.
There was absolutely nothing to eat, and hardly anything to drink (just juice and coffee). So, remember to eat before going.
Club has already been described, it's quite small, and therefore cosy and friendly atmosphere. Girls are naked, sitted on sofas and smile at you, but you have to approach them.
There are smallpictures of them on the bar, with their name and some indication of their services: One says: "Ich malle alles" (I do everything) But it is Michelle, a tall 40+ totally unattractive German Lady. Other say, in German: "everything, but anal, and CIM". Other says:" speciality: anal". Other says speciality: CIM. But it is sometimes difficult to recognize the girls from their picture.
Most of the girls were Romanain / Bulgarian, relatively young, some very chubby, some very slim, so quite a good choice. But they do not speak anything but their own language. In addition. 2 germans, Sandra and Michelle, and one Nigerian, Sylvia, who speak english.
I had my first session with a Roumanian, forgot her name. Quite chubby, big natural breasts. Nice BBBJ on the couch, and Ok fuck in the room. She was advertised as everything but anal. Offered AO.
Then I went with Sylvia,"chocolate" Nigerian / Brazilian girl, essentially because I wanted some social times. Nice slim body, very friendly, superficial kisser, good BBBJ. She was advertised as " speciality: CIM". In the room, good hugging, DATY, but I could feel that she was not much into the sex. She said she only fuck covered. Finally she gave me a very good bbj with CIM.
Conclusion: this is what you may call a "lowcost" FKK. Fucking 2 girls for 90 euros, with CIM, COB included, is really cheap, and the service is by no means less good than in a major FKK. To get the same service in, say Palace, I would have paid more than 200 Euros. But this is not a place to hang on for very long, not much to do between sessions, and little if any social time.
Interestingly, it seems that AO is only offered by the Romanian / Bulgarian girls. And that points to what was discussed in the previous posts. Those girls have probably less choice than the germans or the Nigerian. So, yes, I agree that, if given the choice, they would prefer covered fuck.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1402944]I have read with interest the previous discussion and agree with most of it. Not much to add, so I will just report my visit to Arabella yesterday evening.
Arrived around 8 am, .[/QUOTE]I meant 8 PM.
Nice post Optimist.
I'm also an occasional visitor to these clubs. I shall probably visit again in April, maybe checking out the newer one also. They're not for everyone but I've been impressed (and maybe lucky) overall with service levels. As you say AO is available, but not compulsory. I usually stay for 2 well chosen sessions. The 3 session option is priced to tempt, but there is just not enough to do at these clubs between sessions for me and I get bored waiting for recovery for session 3. Oh, to be young again.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1402432]If you want some fun with intelligent girls at these clubs try Aida at Venus or Angie at Grimberg[/QUOTE]Is Aida the very attractive slim and tall model-like girl in Venus?
Do both of these girls provide AO?
Ed Setra.
I'm also only an occasional visitor to Germany
Aida at Venus is tall, slim but quite broadly built. She has a striking face which I like but which another monger said was a touch androgynous : I think she could be described as model like. Her English is good and her sex is well above the standard FKK offering. She is a touch older than some and is settled in her life so perhaps she has the combination of enjoying sex (even being a bit wild) and being responsible and mature in her mind. She will do AO if you want but anal is always covered.
Angie is (I think) still at Grimberg. One of the liveliest girls I have ever met, and astonishing public sex and DFK even when you are at the Theke after the session. She literally nearly knocked me over with her DFK. Again her service is far beyond the normal in FKKs and she is mature in her mind. Not sure if sh eis still there - if anyone knows I'd love to here as she is (for me) worth the diversion. I think she only does AO-lite or covered.
As for number of sessions. Given the price structure I always go for three sessions as, even if I'm not physically up to three pops, it gives the girls a bit of easy money to have a talk / music sharing / photosharing session and it makes a nice atmosphere. They remember.
Indi. Again thank you for your kind words. I look forward to you getting the PM facility. You ask why a girl with a brain and good job might make a late start into this career. Well, for one worker at least it was because it was a more honest, productive, and emotionally rewarding career than running a public sector organisation. Every story is different.
As for fairy stories, I agree. But one time I was very taken aback when a girl demanded I tell her a fairy story. I could not deny a request from such a beseeching pair of eyes so for the first time in my life I told a fairy story which she then told to her offspring.
[QUOTE=Optimist; 1403193]Aida at Venus is tall, slim but quite broadly built. She has a striking face which I like but which another monger said was a touch androgynous :
Angie is (I think) still at Grimberg. One of the liveliest girls I have ever met, and astonishing public sex and DFK even when you are at the Theke after the session. She literally nearly knocked me over with her DFK. Again her service is far beyond the normal in FKKs and she is mature in her mind. Not sure if sh eis still there. If anyone knows I'd love to here as she is (for me) worth the diversion. I think she only does AO-lite or covered.[/QUOTE]Aida.
I still think she has that androdynous look with rugby shoulders. There is nothing model about her except for her height.
Angie.
Not my type, but she is cream pie city. Seen her many times banging away on the couches, stairway & etc. All the guys busted nuts inside her. She gives the total PSE, but a bit rough around the edges for my taste.
Thanks for the correction about Angie. Have you seen her recently? Rough round the edges. I found her to be sweet! How perceptions vary. Mind you I did book her for three sessions in a space of two hours, and during that time her persona calmed down, even eventually spending half hour in and outside the sauna chatting
Aida - yes you need to be a man to tackle those shoulders;) But I still think she is slim and attractive in a slightly unusual way
[QUOTE=Optimist; 1403397]Thanks for the correction about Angie. Have you seen her recently? Rough round the edges. I found her to be sweet! How perceptions vary. Mind you I did book her for three sessions in a space of two hours, and during that time her persona calmed down, even eventually spending half hour in and outside the sauna chatting.
Aida. Yes you need to be a man to tackle those shoulders. But I still think she is slim and attractive in a slightly unusual way[/QUOTE]what's up Optimist,
Angie,
I meant she looks kind of rough, but totally agree she's a sweetie. I have never sessioned with her (seen her around for over a year) , but she smiles, waves hi then asks when my friend is going to visit. They both have an interesting connection. She was at Grimberg in late Jan, but I have not been there recently as Alice & Bianca have moved around.
Aida.
She is tall & slim for her height. I just cannot get past the 'This Is SPARTA! ' look.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1403193]Aida at Venus is tall, slim but quite broadly built. She has a striking face which I like but which another monger said was a touch androgynous[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I must be mistaken, or maybe I have latent attractions for the angrogynous look. I draw the line at rugby players though.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1403193]As for number of sessions. Given the price structure I always go for three sessions as, even if I'm not physically up to three pops, it gives the girls a bit of easy money to have a talk / music sharing / photosharing session and it makes a nice atmosphere. They remember.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I sometimes do this too.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1403197]Indi. Again thank you for your kind words. I look forward to you getting the PM facility. You ask why a girl with a brain and good job might make a late start into this career. Well, for one worker at least it was because it was a more honest, productive, and emotionally rewarding career than running a public sector organisation. Every story is different.[/QUOTE]My question was retoric because the reason of it in the cases I know wasn't an emotionally rewarded carreer but something that could be summarize in what one wife of mine once told me (with tears in her eyes)"My life is ruined". She had a late start not exactly on the basis of her free choice and will. But then, what you write remembers me that every story is different and there are also reasonably positive stories around!
[QUOTE=Optimist; 1403193].
As for number of sessions. Given the price structure I always go for three sessions as, even if I'm not physically up to three pops, it gives the girls a bit of easy money to have a talk / music sharing / photosharing session and it makes a nice atmosphere. They remember.[/QUOTE]You don't have to choose the number of sessions on arrival. You pay 60 euros at arrival, which include one session. Then you pay 30 euros after each additionnal session. At least that was the system in place yesterday and day before at both Arabella and Villa venus.
As for Aida, if all rugby players give similar sessions, I may frequent more often the rugby lockers.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1403539]You don't have to choose the number of sessions on arrival. You pay 60 euros at arrival, which include one session. Then you pay 30 euros after each additionnal session. At least that was the system in place yesterday and day before at both Arabella and Villa venus.[/QUOTE]It seems to vary from time to time depending on how busy they are, day of the week, etc.
Anytime I've been to these clubs the pricing structure was based on an upfront charge (such as 1x60, 2x90, 3x110) where you decided when you arrived how many sessions you wanted.
[QUOTE=Ed Setra; 1403553]It seems to vary from time to time depending on how busy they are, day of the week, etc.
Anytime I've been to these clubs the pricing structure was based on an upfront charge (such as 1x60, 2x90, 3x110) where you decided when you arrived how many sessions you wanted.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Depends oh how busy the club is, time of day and on the receptionist's mood.
HB