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I've done that with some articles in the pass, but after a while some of those stories gets removed from the orginal source thus rendering the links invalid or to read "page not found."
[QUOTE=Ho Man]Dear Messrs Mann and Mirrors
Would it be possible, in future, rather than posting long newspaper articles, to simply paste the weblink? THis forum should be for the exchange of original information.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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travel plans
I am debating whether I should go to Korea with two of my co-workers or go to Thailand alone for my 2 weeks paid vacation. After doing a few research, I conclude that in Korea, chicks are hotter and there are more historic site scene than Thailand. On the other hand, Thailand is basically a sex tour or a disneyland for mongers. Any suggestions?
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What to do Amper!
Amper,
I'll make this simple as I can. Apparently some fellow mongers have been somewhat discontent due to their skin color and eye shape (excludes Seoul Survivor).
If your from Korean descent or have very good Korean language speaking abilities, then by all means come to Korea and sample what this place has to offer.
If your Korean sucks and you just want to ***** it up, go to Bangkok.
DH
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Kind of a strange post, are you more interested in historic sites or sex? Thailand has just about as many, if not more historic sites than Korea. There's an abundance of tours they try to sell you the minute you land at the Airport. If you're looking for sex, there's no comparison, I never heard of any monger not having a great time in Thailand and unlike Korea, there's no crackdown and it’s much cheaper. Can you say Nana Hotel, Nana Plaza, Eden Club or Soi Cowboy?
Korean chicks are available if you come to Korea, but they will cost you more in terms of time and money. "Hotter" is subjective and depends more on what you like.
[QUOTE=Amper]I am debating whether I should go to Korea with two of my co-workers or go to Thailand alone for my 2 weeks paid vacation. After doing a few research, I conclude that in Korea, chicks are hotter and there are more historic site scene than Thailand. On the other hand, Thailand is basically a sex tour or a disneyland for mongers. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
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Bonuses for bikini-clad bathers anger South Korean women's group
July 13, 2005
Bonuses for bikini-clad bathers, while poular, are angering South Korean women's groups. Meanwhile plans for a nude beach further stir emotions.
Seoul - A local government campaign to attract more bathers to a South Korean beach resort by offering incentives to swimmers wearing bikinis has upset women's rights activists.
Ahead of the peak summer bathing season, Buan County administration southwest of Seoul renamed its Byeonsan Beach Bikini Beach and promised wearers of skimpy swimsuits a 10-percent discount on bills for hotels, meals and beach equipment rentals.
The county put up wall posters with pictures of bikini-clad beauties and the inscription: "Show off your beauty and get a 10-percent discount."
Women's groups denounced the campaign as exploitation.
"This is an outrageous attempt to stimulate the regional economy by exploiting the female sex," said a statement from the association of women activists of North Jeolla Province.
A campaign to attract more visitors should focus on publicizing the southwestern county's "natural beauty instead of the naked female body," it said.
"We are appalled at this preposterous campaign and cannot suppress our mounting anger," it said.
But officials at the Buan county office were unrepentant and said by telephone that they had no plan to stop the campaign.
"I don't understand why they are so angry. This is just part of a publicity campaign aimed at promoting the name of the Bikini Beach. We have no intention to exploit or commercialize the female sex," an official told AFP.
This latest controvery comes amid tentative plans for South Koreas first nude beach. Last month authorities in Kangwon Province announced that they would seek public support for their plans to designate a part of Kangnung or Kosong region beaches for nude bathers.
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Re: California service
Thanks for the article reference.
As a California native, I think everyone, or at least every straight heterosexual Korean American male realizes what Los Angeles and San Francisco have to offer in the Korean areas of town. You can pick up newspapers at any given Korean supermarket and find advertisements for massages all over the place! It's no surprise as outcall massage places, actual massage establishments, room salons are run by exported talent so to speak.
I have friends who love to play and every one of my buddies have told me that the girls are fresh off the boat, do not even speak a word of English and are somewhat familiar with what they are doing. I can guarantee that not all these girls come to America thinking that they will be a waitress.
Can anyone tell me what person in their right mind would come to America to be a fucking waitress?
Exactly.
Of course there are the few exceptions but let's get realistic here.
DH
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You have to wonder why there are so many Koreans involved in these type stories. There's a lot more than other (poorer) countries you never hear about in this light. Can't just be economics, or maybe these girls are so much more easily influenced or just dumb.
Canada overun with South Korean women in prostitution exodus
July 13, 2005
New report says B.C. is a major hub for Korean sex trade workers as websites in Seoul urge women to go overseas and make up to $28,000 a month in massage parlours and bars.
A crackdown on prostitution in South Korea has triggered an exodus of sex trade workers to Vancouver, Toronto and cities in the United States, authorities in Seoul warn. Several human smugglers and pimps in Seoul have also posted websites in Korea urging the sex trade workers to make money overseas.
Korean media quoting local police said the sex workers are moving abroad after new anti-prostitution laws made the world? oldest profession more difficult at home.
They are heading for the U.S., Canada and Australia, but some settle for countries such as Thailand, Vietnam, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan better known for export rather than import of sex workers, one report said.
In North America, they apparently work in smaller cities and towns as well as big urban centers like Los Angeles, New York, Washington DC, Toronto and Vancouver, the report said. Hong Kong and Europe have recently been added to the list of destinations. It seems that since the Special Law on Prostitution went into effect, the number of pimps and prostitutes going abroad is skyrocketing,??a police officer said. "But we don't have the full picture since most leave the country ostensibly for tourism."
Dedicated web groups are awash with advertisements drawing prostitutes abroad.
A typical post on one such site boasting no fewer than 1,430 members said, 'we know that in Korea these days, unemployment, the recession and the Special Law on Prostitution make it hard to earn even half of what you made before. Try a new W8 million a month (CDN$9,500 to CDN$12,000) in a bar, W18-24 million (C$21,000 to C$28,500) a month in a massage parlor guaranteed. Advances possible. We take care of visas and bad credit.'
There are dozens of groups on the Internet portal site Daum that hook up women looking for work abroad with pimps. Most of the sites require detailed member registration. To join one group ([url]www.cafe.daum.net/goldgold486[/url]) with 320 members, applicants must indicate their height, age, weight and work experience and upload a genuine photograph.
This month, federal prosecutors in the U.S. arrested about 50 members of two criminal organizations who fixed Korean sex workers up with jobs in San Francisco.
They are now holding about 100 Korean prostitutes, many of whom are believed to have entered the United States after arriving in Vancouver or Toronto. U.S. prosecutors claim the bust was one of the biggest prostitution takedowns in history. The nine-month investigation of Korean prostitution rings was codenamed 'Operation Gilded Cage.'
The women allegedly worked as prostitutes at 10 massage parlors in and around San Francisco. Authorities said the alleged San Francisco sex ring involved an elaborate operation that used a travel service to entice and bring in young women from South Korea and a cab company to shuttle them between brothels.
Authorities believe that operators of the alleged sex ring targeted women from impoverished parts of South Korea. The operators allegedly told the women they could work as waitresses and bar hostesses in America if each paid a fee of C$12,300 to C$18,600. The fate of the women will hinge on whether prosecutors determine they were forced to work against their will or whether they participated in the sex ring voluntarily, said Bradley Schlozman, acting assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights.
The women, who are being kept at an undisclosed location, will be considered victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] if they were forced to participate in labor or commercial sexual activity, Schlozman said. "The women need not have been locked in a room in order to be a victim of a severe form of trafficking," he said. "Maybe they've been forced to do this in order to pay off a debt that is unreasonable, and maybe there have been threats to their families or to them. It's a whole variety of considerations."
If they are found to have been victims, then the women will be provided with help from private organizations. Ivy Lee, an attorney with Asian Pacific Islander Legal Outreach in San Francisco, said the immediate tasks would be getting the women health care, counseling and help for their children and finding them a safe place to stay, likely in a shelter for victims of domestic violence.
"We would focus on stabilizing her situation and trying to explain to her what her situation is," she said. "A lot of them are going to be confused about what the hell is going on. 'What's happening to me? What are my options? Am I going to jail? And also, who are all these people?'"
If law enforcement requires them to stay in the United States to help with the investigation, the women are entitled to the same health coverage, cash assistance and English classes that refugees and those seeking asylum receive, Lee said.
The women can at any time decide to return to South Korea, although law enforcement officials could then declare them a 'material witnesses' to the case, forcing them to stay in the United States without any benefits.
The women can simultaneously apply for visas, which will allow them 'as trafficking victims willing to cooperate with law enforcement' to stay for an additional three years. They are then eligible to apply for green cards.
Lee said one of the biggest threats to the women is if the alleged traffickers hire attorneys to find the women and offer them legal assistance. In the past, she said, lawyers for alleged traffickers would lure the women back into a sex ring. Last February, it emerged that an organization sold 38 women to brothels in Australia, New Zealand and Canada in conditions of virtual bonded labor. Police say the organization would advance the women millions of Won they had to pay back at 60 percent interest and forced them to pay medical expenses for diseases contracted on the job.
The women had to sign up to a 'Code of conduct' that fined them CDN $372 for arguing with customers and CDN $62 for showing up a minute late to work. At an international meeting on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] in Bangkok, Thailand last October, Kim Yeong-Ran of the Naeil Women's Center for Youth said an increasing number of Korean men who go on sex tours abroad was paralleled by a growing number of Korean sex workers going overseas.
The U.S. State Department in a report last month said Canada is a primary destination and transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of labor and sexual exploitation.
The Trafficking in Persons Report 2005 said the majority of foreign victims transiting Canada are bound for the United States. Numbers are hard to gauge, but in February 2004, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) estimated that 800 persons are trafficked into Canada annually and that an additional 1,500-2,200 persons are trafficked through Canada into the United States. Some estimate that this number is much higher.
The report said law enforcement efforts in key provinces like British Columbia - through which a significant number of Korean and other female victims are trafficked to the United States - were weak in 2004. Canada struggles to identify trafficking victims inside clandestine migrant smuggling operations. There are growing concerns that South Koreans and others may be abusing the lack of a visa requirement to enter Canada to facilitate the trafficking of men and women, mainly to the United States.
To enhance its anti-trafficking efforts, Canada needs to use its anti-trafficking law to vigorously increase investigations, arrests, prosecutions, and convictions of traffickers, especially those who may be abusing visa waivers and entertainment visas. In British Columbia, a transit zone for trafficking to the United States, there has been few convictions, the report said.
Additionally, there continues to be anecdotal reports of large numbers of South Korean women trafficked through Canada to the United States. The lack of a visa requirement to enter Canada, lack of prosecutions, and an inability to determine the scope of the problem has made Canada, particularly British Columbia, an attractive trafficking hub for East Asian traffickers.
Airline passenger analysis shows that the number of Koreans returning to Korea on flights from Vancouver Canada is 25 percent less than the number arriving on flights from Korea, but the ties to trafficking are not known.
Observers believe that several hundred South Koreans have been trafficked through Canada to the U.S. since 2000, but they state that this estimate is modest.
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Ms Kim
Is Ms Kim still living in Songtan City?
LexLuther
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[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Thanks for the article reference.
Can anyone tell me what person in their right mind would come to America to be a fucking waitress?
Exactly.
Of course there are the few exceptions but let's get realistic here.
DH[/QUOTE]I think that if there are the specific clues that it's a sex job, most would probably be savvy. But there's a lot of Korean girls who want to go to an English-speaking country. They even go so far as to pay agencies to setup work-travel visas for them where they do the most crappy jobs, least of all being a waitress. I think that there might be gals who would fall for this, even if it's too good to be true.
But, you're right. If it says anything more than "waitress" or mentions ridiculous amounts of money, then they should know what they're getting into.