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[QUOTE=SooNice; 1267676]Hello, my friends,
I've been lurking this thread since I booked a ticket to Kiev, going in a couple of weeks. I try to find concrete and straight forward info about the scene, but it's a hassle to read the babble inbetween. It would be most helpful if any experienced fellow could gather useful info in one single post. I'm talking about url's to saloons, url's to RIO and similar clubs, best agencies and clubs for freebies. Or the best would be pin point on google maps.
As far as I understand, picking up girls (pro's &nsemi pro's) in regular clubs is the best bet? I'm used to the FKK scene in germany and hope for some DFK, BBBJ and licking in Kiev.
I have pretty nice experiences from Mamba, but it's very time consuming to chat and a huge risk that the girl is butt ugly in reality or doesn't show up. I want sex for sure.
Fingers crossed.
Cheers[/QUOTE]If you're already booked and going, friend, I suggest you stop being lazy like most FKK guys and read the thread going back as many months as you can until trip time lest you waste your money spent on the travel expenses. Everything you asked for is in the thread just a few pages back. That's how I know you haven't read it. Romany Star created the Google map and posted it on the thread. In the Reports of Distinction section there was a post by Latexian with links to some of my older reports. That should get you started. My prior reports more or less are designed to spoon feed you the necessary info. So Read, dear newbie, read. Then ask any questions that don't reveal that you are lazy, and you will get better responses for guidance requests. Yes mamba is a risk of what you get, so that's why it's a numbers game and you have to chase down many contacts if you are looking for the cheaper sex available in Kiev. If you're looking for P4p pros and semi pros, then I will bet that you will lose that bet that the best place is regular clubs in Kiev. You need to read more of the thread. Yes I am goading you, but for your own benefit.
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To Lj
[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1267798]Dear Ronaldinjo, I was just joking with you about pulling out of me the story of the Vladislava and Leela duo on my last night. So don't be regretting anything. And I did put in the chronology of which girls and when I saw them. The only thing I didn't do is create a paragraph for each girl, describing the sex play with each for the horny old dogs on this forum, but I figured the description of what went down with Vladislava and Leela was salacious enough to satisfy that need, and I hoped I would be forgiven for not posting repetitive sexual details of the date with each girl, Katya (Friday night) , Anita (Saturday night) , Sophia (Sunday afternoon) , Leela 1st time (Monday night) , Leela and Vladislava (Tuesday night). All girls from Rio; and [email]Eva@mamba[/email] (Monday afternoon) , and a freebie date with Asia (Tuesday afternoon). Saturday afternoon got wasted by cancellations by Eva of her 2pm appointment, and cancellation by Asia of her 5pm date. Both were rescheduled for later in trip. I have no idea where Sunday night disappeared to after Sophia left my apartment. Just can't remember. Anyway that's the whole chronology. I posted descriptions of how each girl looks in another of my responses to you (Katya long shiny light brown mane of hair gorgeous cute Barby doll princess) , Anita and Sophia (blondes with pretty faces and great bodies) , Leela (outstandingly pretty classic beauty brunette with sizzling hot curves) and Vladislava (jet black hair, amazing deep blue eyes, tall slender very good looking pretty faced sex amazon) by way of reminder. So really you have it all, except for the porno, which I will allow you to imagine for yourself, and it Will probably be better than what I might write. LOL.
I had numbers of girls I know from past trips who I had spoken to before my arrival and was supposed to call and see. For example, Sasha formerly of River Palace (awesome brunette) , Natasha (blonde) and Stesha (brunette) both formerly of top-modals. Com, and a few other Rio girls whose mumbers I have, like Darina (sizzling hot dirty blonde princess) or Ada or Lera, etc, but to tell you the truth, I just didn't have the strength or desire. Which is why I'm in awe of a guy like Hunter Dave who bangs them out like a machine press, or claims of 5 a day made recently by Cruiser D. I observedin a previous post that I am capable of 3 or 4 girls a night and routinely do it when I am in the FKK. But for some reason, I am much more slowed down when I am in Kiev, most probably because of the effort needed to go find the next girl, whereas in the FKK the girls are all over you continually.
Happy Mongering.
LJ[/QUOTE]I'm portugueese divorced man on my early 50ies, former sportsman, good shaped and good looking typical latino man. Its hard to believe how you manage to bang several girls in a raw day by day (as cruiser the posted for example) , even with big quantities of viagra (by the way gyes, to call viagra vitamin see is misnomer, it is same as to call viagra anticancer drug, no connection) , so I can't comprehend it, even much yunger horny boys can't bang 5 new girls each day several days a row, or maybe gyes cums only once a day, or cruiser the cums only once while banging 5 girls? Or just speaks nonsence?
Joey, how many times you cum in each encounter, every session last how much time on avarage? Do you cum after every session?
And by the way, day before duo with Vladislava and Leela, you had a session with Leela. How did you bring up the topic about duo with both of them? Did she tell you that she has hot girlfriend and there is possibility for duo or you inquired and offered the duo possibility later? How much duo costed. 600 $ for 3 hours or did you agree on a little bit less?
With respect, Ronaldinjo
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LilJoey:
One of the girls said she comes to the club one hour early for English lessons, I guess RIO has hired an English teacher, maybe Joey is their English teacher
Darina.
FACE: 6.
BODY: 8 small tits.
PERSONALITY: a generous 6
It seems she thinks she is the queen of RIO, just didn't enjoy talking to her. I just asked her what is your name and she said I will come talk to you after I change. 10 minutes later she is ordering her cocktail, cigarettes, and water and was trying to get me to have a private dance and is talking about her $500 fee.
Lera.
FACE: 7.
BODY: 7.
PERSONALITY: 7.
Katya.
FACE: 7.
BODY: 7.
PERSONALITY: I don't know, didn't talk to her, she was busy, I would say she is probably better than Lera and Darina.
Isabella.
FACE: 6. 5.
BODY: 7.
PERSONALITY: 7 fun, nice to talk you.
Zalata:
FACE: 6.5
BODY: 8. 5.
PERSONALITY: 7.
Blond, small breasts. She really has a great body, loved her ass and thighs, when I talked to her I got the feeling she was on drugs, she seemed a little high, she said she has just started working there and at this time does not go out.
Marina.
FACE: 7. 5.
BODY: 6. 5.
PERSONALITY: 7.
pretty blond girl.
Sophia.
FACE: 7 liked her big blue eyes.
BODY: 8 very nice tits, nice ass.
PERSONALITY: 7
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To Muddy
[quote=muddy7; 1267830]liljoey:
one of the girls said she come to the club one hour early for english lessons, i guess rio has hired an english teacher.
darina.
face: 6.
body: 8 small tits.
personality: a generous 6
it seems she thinks she is the queen of rio, just didn't enjoy talking to her. i just asked her what is your name and she said i will come talk to you after i change. 10 minutes later she is ordering her cocktail, cigarettes, and water and was trying to get me to have a private dance and is talking about her $500 fee.
lera.
face: 7.
body: 7.
personality: 7.
katya.
face: 7.
body: 7.
personality: i don't know, didn't talk to her, she was busy, i would say she is probably better than lera and darina.
isabella.
face: 6. 5.
body: 7.
personality: 7 fun, nice to talk you.
zalata:
face: 6.
body: 8. 5.
personality: 7.
blond, small breasts. she really has a great body, loved her ass and thighs, when i talked to her i got the feeling she was on drugs, she seemed a little high, she said she has just started working there and at this time does not go out.
marina.
face: 7. 5.
body: 6. 5.
personality: 7.
nice pretty blond girl.
sophia.
face: 7 liked her big blue eyes.
body: 8 very nice tits, nics ass.
personality: 7[/quote]you give a very low mark to girls faces. maybe you find 8th and 9s in mamba. can you describe marina? how she looks, does she speeks english?
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[QUOTE=Muddy7; 1267830]LilJoey:
One of the girls said she comes to the club one hour early for English lessons, I guess RIO has hired an English teacher, maybe Joey is their English teacher[/QUOTE]Now that's an interesting job. I would only give lessons at my apartment, however. It would be in my specialty, of course, which is linguistics, I. E. The use of the tongue to communicate. In this part of the lesson I use my tongue on their cute little clitorises to cause them to "communicate" whatever's on their mind. Of course my methods would be much more effective than Pimsleur's. It would definitely involve certain very specialized exercises for the tongue, vital to getting rid of a heavy Russian accent and would have to involve trying to talk while my shaft was stuck down their cute little throats, for every mistake, they would get another centimeter, and special exercises to see if they can remember to say,"yes, yes, oh fuck meeee!" instead of the usual "Da, Da, Da!!" at the brink of an orgasm. Then I will know if they have really learned right and proper English.
Hmmmm. Let me see. From your list I have already started giving lessons to Darina, Lera, Katya, and Sophia. They are cumming along nicely in their studies.
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Up 5 girls a day, not 5 girls everyday. I know a lot of girls in Kiev and I don't like to disappoint, what can I say, I am all about the love. I have over 1100 contacts in my Ukrainian android phone, I know a lot of girls. It is to the point now where I tell the girls. Yeah, you can come over now or in an hour but don't be surprised if there is another girl here or just leaving.
The hottest pussy for the lowest price isn't Rio.
The most I ever pay for a girl is $100. I've gotten a lot of very attractive girls on mamba who started out at $500. When I ask the super hot girls why they met me for $100 they reply with, I like your height, I like your photos, etc. I met one of your Vodka Escort girls off of mamba for $90. We've been (fuck) buddies for the last 2 or so years. One of the sexpats I met earlier in my trips to Kiev put it this way, 'Pretty Woman' is one of the favorite video rentals in Ukraine. He's a douche but that statement has more then a little truth to it. It truly is a case of YMMV.
Ukrainian girls and girls in general are a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1267660]Up to 5 girls a day for all the days you are in Kiev is quite impressive, Cruiser D. My hat is off to you, if you can sustain that pace.
There's nothing intrinsically better about the "method" itself of ordering girls off a website like mamba versus finding them on a river boat or a strip club. What's the difference? I don't get the negativity about the method. The point should be where and how to get the hottest pussy for the lowest price.
Thus far my experience has been that the more average girls are coming from mamba, and I find much hotter girls at Rio. Those are the facts Of my experience. Believe me, because of the price differential I truly wish that truth were reversed. Yet I'll keep trying with mamba to see if I can Get better results than girls of 6 or 7 quality level.[/QUOTE]
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SooNice. Going to clubs in Kiev is your best bet in finding pro's and semi pro's that you can touch, feel, sniff, talk to and take home. Go to D'Lux, Go to Arena, Go to Avalon, Go to Sky Bar. Or go to any club in Kiev that foreigners know about. Ok?
Don't go to Buddha Bar, the place sucks.
Go to Rio and then you can post about how lame it is to go there when you can go to the real clubs.
LilJoey, so many words, so little (if not repetitive) information.
[QUOTE=SooNice; 1267676]As far as I understand, picking up girls (pro's &nsemi pro's) in regular clubs is the best bet? I'm used to the FKK scene in germany and hope for some DFK, BBBJ and licking in Kiev.
I have pretty nice experiences from Mamba, but it's very time consuming to chat and a huge risk that the girl is butt ugly in reality or doesn't show up. I want sex for sure.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Liljoey;1267773]Choose several nice meeting locations for a coffee or a drink located not too far apart around the downtown area, and go from one location to the other, to meet with your successive dates. You must warn the girls in advance that you are a very busy man and if they are not timely, you will not be able to wait long for them to arrive and will need to reschedule the meeting with them. Even if you can't sustain 5 sexual encounters a day, you can certainly have mini dates with 5 or more girls each day. You are looking for non pro or semi pro girls, not agency girls.[/QUOTE]They may look like us on the outside but in reality they are all Philippina girls. Different name, same game.
Women want the same thing and say the same things, but with different dialects. They want to be seen, recognized, acknowledged and entertained. They want a smiling and humble winner. They want your time (attention) or your money. And sometimes both. I love them but they are lazy, greedy and vain. And naive, romantic and sweet. What a mixture. No wonder they makes us fight here in this little pieces of cyber dust.
LJ, you are a returning visitor so to hit a few social forums and get some regulars would not be so hard, after what I have discovered in these last weeks. Some of the girls I chat with are super lovely and traditional in their views and thoughts. Julia is really nice to chat with. I fall in love with her every time I chat with her. Right now we are chatting about her thoughts on her future. She wants to get a good education and she wants to travel. How original. But still I love her sweet, caring and submissive persona.
LJ, your post makes total sense. They always did. You are totally logical given your claimed (and reflected) personality, and your way of penetrating this cookie. Rio is a predictable entry point (and as Cruiser D pointed out, it is far from the end point). ONE of the ways to start the Ukraine exploration. They should thank you by the way. Rio will have an LJ related boost in turnover. I will pitch in. Thanks once again for taking the time.
B.
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[quote=cruiser d; 1268049]soonice. going to clubs in kiev is your best bet in finding pro's and semi pro's that you can touch, feel, sniff, talk to and take home. go to d'lux, go to arena, go to avalon, go to sky bar. or go to any club in kiev that foreigners know about. ok?
don't go to buddha bar, the place sucks.
go to rio and then you can post about how lame it is to go there when you can go to the real clubs.
liljoey, so many words, so little (if not repetitive) information.[/quote][quote=cruiser d; 1268046]up 5 girls a day, not 5 girls everyday. i know a lot of girls in kiev and i don't like to disappoint, what can i say, i am all about the love. i have over 1100 contacts in my ukrainian android phone, i know a lot of girls. it is to the point now where i tell the girls. yeah, you can come over now or in an hour but don't be surprised if there is another girl here or just leaving.
the hottest pussy for the lowest price isn't rio.
the most i ever pay for a girl is $100. i've gotten a lot of very attractive girls on mamba who started out at $500. when i ask the super hot girls why they met me for $100 they reply with, i like your height, i like your photos, etc. i met one of your vodka escort girls off of mamba for $90. we've been (fuck) buddies for the last 2 or so years. one of the sexpats i met earlier in my trips to kiev put it this way, 'pretty woman' is one of the favorite video rentals in ukraine. he's a douche but that statement has more then a little truth to it. it truly is a case of ymmv.
ukrainian girls and girls in general are a lot of fun.[/quote]better not leave your ukrainian android phone on a bench someplace. very valuable 1100 contacts.
out of curiosity which of "my vodka escort girls" did you meet? (i've only had three before they went out of business, inna, julia and alina).
cruiser d, i don't recall any reports on this thread within the last year reporting lower prices being asked by wg's in the regular clubs like d'lux, arena etc. the posts pretty uniformly state that the prices demanded by wg's in these clubs start high, like at $500 or $400, and usually you can get 2 hours, and maybe you can negotiate the price down to $300/2hours. that's higher than rio's prices.
no one has been reporting getting wg rates at the regular clubs of $200/2hours. that would be the equivalent of the $100 / hr net rate being asked at rio for a 3 hour date (with the advantage of only having to pay for 2 hours instead of rio's 3 hour minimum).
do you have different information than has been uniformly reported on this board?
i think you are steering this fellow wrong. when it comes to comparing rates at rio with rates of wg's at the regular clubs like d'lux and arena, etc, where you can see the girl in advance (not like the website girls from mamba where it's a surprise what will show up) , then rio is asking the lower prices.
do you really disagree with the statement that the hottest p4p pussy for the lowest price -- that you can see in advance in a club -- currently available to a newbie (not an old contact in your android phone) -- is at rio?
(if you are claiming that in the lower priced girls one can meet off of mamba, there are girls to be gotten who are hotter than the girls one can get at rio, then i will not contradict you because i don't have enough of a sampling of mamba girls under my belt to be statistically valid as a basis to do so, although it has not been my experience on mamba thus far. as i reported, i have thus far only gotten girls off of mamba who are significantly lower in beauty than the rio girls i have gotten. but i know i need to ramp up the sampling of mamba girls on my next trip to see if what you and others claim is possible for me too. believe me i would love to get girls as hot as the rio girls i have gotten for a lower mamba price of $100 / hr or $75 / hr.)
(it appears you have another pet peeve, this time about buddha bar. yes, in terms of environment it is less fun than going to a disco dance club. it's a restaurant / bar. but in terms of being a location where one can meet wg's it's as functional as the other clubs. the wg's are there waiting. rp wasn't a dance club in the true sense either, since only the girls danced for the most part, and the men ogled. yet it was a good place to pick up wg's so it served its purpose as a wg venue. one might say it's easier to spot the wg's at buddha bar than at the dance clubs. but i was never impressed with the quantity. none of these clubs has ever approached rp for quantity of hot pussy.)
lj
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[quote=ronaldinjo; 1268094]i'm portugueese divorced man on my early 50ies, former sportsman, good shaped and good looking typical latino man. its hard to believe how you manage to bang several girls in a raw day by day (as cruiser the posted for example) , even with big quantities of viagra (by the way gyes, to call viagra vitamin see is misnomer, it is same as to call viagra anticancer drug, no connection) , so i can't comprehend it, even much yunger horny boys can't bang 5 new girls each day several days a row, or maybe gyes cums only once a day, or cruiser the cums only once while banging 5 girls? or just speaks nonsence?
joey, how many times you cum in each encounter, every session last how much time on avarage? do you cum after every session?
and by the way, day before duo with vladislava and leela, you had a session with leela. how did you bring up the topic about duo with both of them? did she tell you that she has hot girlfriend and there is possibility for duo or you inquired and offered the duo possibility later? how much duo costed. 600 $ for 3 hours or did you agree on a little bit less?
with respect, ronaldinjo[/quote]so, ronaldinjo, we are exactly the same, except i am not portugueese, former sportsman, good shaped and good looking typical latino man. lol.
vitamin c refers to cialis, which i actually prefer to viagra, because it stays in your system for 36 hours, so i pop 1 a day during a mongering trip when i expect many sexual episodes. it isn't necessary in the beginning for the first times you have sex, but it helps when you are way out there into a zone of fucking multiple times each day for several days in a row as a sort of insurance policy that you won't have any problem with maintaining an erection when in a state of near sexual exhaustion, so that you don't end up wasting the money you might have paid for that session. it can't help you with "leche", and if you have no more leche left after having ejaculated your entire current supply, you will not be able to cum despite your erection. but p4p girls are not overjoyed with this because they are not there for the long fuck and personal pleasure, and they would prefer the quick fuck and out with their money, plus it will cost you for the time, so best to end the session after a reasonable amount of fucking even if you haven't cum because you can't.
in an fkk i find myself inspired to do 3 to 4 sessions each visit. it might be possible for me to get 5 in on the first night, but i could not do that 2 nights in a row. the 2nd night would be more like 2 times, then the third night i might be back up to 3 times. but that is behavior that i have only in these special pussy concentrated environments like an fkk where many naked girls are all over the place and i can stay around all day and night if i want to until an urge to be with one again comes to me.
in kiev i have found that because i taking out girls from rio either for 3 hours, or for all night, that in the three hour date i try to stretch out the sex to go on for a long time and occupy 2 to 2. 5 hours of the time together with sex, and unless it is my first session, i am usually cumming just once. after the girl goes home, usually around 5 or 6 am, i have a bite to eat, watching the news, and then sleep from around 7am until about 1 or 2pm. then there is time to invite over a mamba girl or a girl from some other website for an hour session of cheap sex. then back to the super hot club girls at night. cumming twice a day is what seems to be happening to me in kiev. but it is related to the fact that at night i am usually with an expensive girl for about 2 hours in bed, and after having sex twice a day for a few days, i am not usually going to pop twice in 2 hours, so i use up most or all that time with one long lasting sex session, and time my cumming at the end by controlling the positions i use and the speed of the fucking.
yes, there are some guys who have a faster recharge rate and they can have leche ready to go in a very short time after cumming. and some guys have a slower recharge rate. it's also a factor of age and metabolism, general health and even the foods you eat. i think you will find, though, that if you put yourself in a more taxing situation where there is much more sexual demand and enticement, like in an fkk, or a brazilian terma, you will rise to the occasion and will be able to do much more sex.
than you normally have.
as to leela and vladislava, on tuesday night, i was sitting with sophia, in vip, the girl i had been with on sunday, two days earlier, and she was saying that she didn't feel so good, and then leela from the night before walked by and i called her over. sophia moved on and leela said she had been waiting for me with a little suggestive smile. she is the one who suggested taking her friend vladislava. the price was standard amount of $300 each,
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To Lj
[quote=liljoey; 1268129]so, ronaldinjo, we are exactly the same, except i am not portugueese, former sportsman, good shaped and good looking typical latino man. lol.
vitamin c refers to cialis, which i actually prefer to viagra, because it stays in your system for 36 hours, so i pop 1 a day during a mongering trip when i expect many sexual episodes. it isn't necessary in the beginning for the first times you have sex, but it helps when you are way out there into a zone of fucking multiple times each day for several days in a row as a sort of insurance policy that you won't have any problem with maintaining an erection when in a state of near sexual exhaustion, so that you don't end up wasting the money you might have paid for that session. it can't help you with "leche", and if you have no more leche left after having ejaculated your entire current supply, you will not be able to cum despite your erection. but p4p girls are not overjoyed with this because they are not there for the long fuck and personal pleasure, and they would prefer the quick fuck and out with their money, plus it will cost you for the time, so best to end the session after a reasonable amount of fucking even if you haven't cum because you can't.
in an fkk i find myself inspired to do 3 to 4 sessions each visit. it might be possible for me to get 5 in on the first night, but i could not do that 2 nights in a row. the 2nd night would be more like 2 times, then the third night i might be back up to 3 times. but that is behavior that i have only in these special pussy concentrated environments like an fkk where many naked girls are all over the place and i can stay around all day and night if i want to until an urge to be with one again comes to me.
in kiev i have found that because i taking out girls from rio either for 3 hours, or for all night, that in the three hour date i try to stretch out the sex to go on for a long time and occupy 2 to 2. 5 hours of the time together with sex, and unless it is my first session, i am usually cumming just once. after the girl goes home, usually around 5 or 6 am, i have a bite to eat, watching the news, and then sleep from around 7am until about 1 or 2pm. then there is time to invite over a mamba girl or a girl from some other website for an hour session of cheap sex. then back to the super hot club girls at night. cumming twice a day is what seems to be happening to me in kiev. but it is related to the fact that at night i am usually with an expensive girl for about 2 hours in bed, and after having sex twice a day for a few days, i am not usually going to pop twice in 2 hours, so i use up most or all that time with one long lasting sex session, and time my cumming at the end by controlling the positions i use and the speed of the fucking.
yes, there are some guys who have a faster recharge rate and they can have leche ready to go in a very short time after cumming. and some guys have a slower recharge rate. it's also a factor of age and metabolism, general health and even the foods you eat. i think you will find, though, that if you put yourself in a more taxing situation where there is much more sexual demand and enticement, like in an fkk, or a brazilian terma, you will rise to the occasion and will be able to do much more sex.
than you normally have.
as to leela and vladislava, on tuesday night, i was sitting with sophia, in vip, the girl i had been with on sunday, two days earlier, and she was saying that she didn't feel so good, and then leela from the night before walked by and i called her over. sophia moved on and leela said she had been waiting for me with a little suggestive smile. she is the one who suggested taking her friend vladislava. the price was standard amount of $300 each, [/quote]joey,
i can only envy those gyes that can cum multiple and multiple times for 3-4-5 days in a raw. i knew one brazilian who did it, and he told me he ate a lot of beef and nuts. so my performances are very much like yours. by the way, just for interest, are you divorces with children, does your children know your big love to quality pussy, scandinavian or german, where is your permanent residence and how is morgening life in your country? in portugal morgening life compared to our big and toung sister brazil is poor, costly and boring. i have a boy and i guess he suspects that i'm not indifferent for slavic pussy. potrugueeze brunettes are not so appealing to me, maybe because i used to them, i preffere less dark ladies. it difficult to date pretty young girls in portugal unless you are rich, which i'm not.
you took leila home at monday and then duo on tuesday. curious if it is was possible to take both of them on monday, the first day you banged leeyla, or this opportunity came only the day after, did you know that duo possibility with leeyla and vladislava existed before? usually girls offer you duo or you offer it to them? and joey, when you make duo, are you cumming twice with each girl separately?
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1268049]SooNice. Going to clubs in Kiev is your best bet in finding pro's and semi pro's that you can touch, feel, sniff, talk to and take home. Go to D'Lux, Go to Arena, Go to Avalon, Go to Sky Bar. Or go to any club in Kiev that foreigners know about. Ok?
Don't go to Buddha Bar, the place sucks.
Go to Rio and then you can post about how lame it is to go there when you can go to the real clubs.
LilJoey, so many words, so little (if not repetitive) information.[/QUOTE]"sniff" LOL.
I'm sure I'll do fine. Will report after my trip.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1268046]Up 5 girls a day, not 5 girls everyday. I know a lot of girls in Kiev and I don't like to disappoint, what can I say, I am all about the love. I have over 1100 contacts in my Ukrainian android phone, I know a lot of girls. It is to the point now where I tell the girls. Yeah, you can come over now or in an hour but don't be surprised if there is another girl here or just leaving.
The hottest pussy for the lowest price isn't Rio.
The most I ever pay for a girl is $100. I've gotten a lot of very attractive girls on mamba who started out at $500. When I ask the super hot girls why they met me for $100 they reply with, I like your height, I like your photos, etc. I met one of your Vodka Escort girls off of mamba for $90. We've been (fuck) buddies for the last 2 or so years. One of the sexpats I met earlier in my trips to Kiev put it this way, 'Pretty Woman' is one of the favorite video rentals in Ukraine. He's a douche but that statement has more then a little truth to it. It truly is a case of YMMV.
Ukrainian girls and girls in general are a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]Gosh you make me jelous. I'm tired of chatting up girls online. It would be convenient with a huge list for bootycalls. Cruiser D take me under your wings and teach me LOL.
Since I got single last year, I have shagged a lot of girls but most of them are p4p in German gb clubs or FKK's. Maybe around 10-15 freebies from datingsites and from regular clubs.
I'm in my mid thirties, athletic, decent looking scandinavian man and well dressed. BUT It's hard to make contact with real ukranian hotties on Mamba. I get a lot of replies but most of them are smileys and nothing more. I guess one downside is that my profile is written in English and I speak no Russian. Another one is that I'm only 178 cm tall. EE girls are tall in general + high heels.
It's hard to find time to chit chat. I want to get straight to the point. Sometimes it works. One time I exchanged 3 messages with a girl from Kharkov. We met and had sex for 3 days. Love was in the air. She even introduced me to her mum, but distance is a bad foundation for a relationship.
I can cum 4-5 times a day when I'm with a GF. If I wank, then maybe 10 times. Too bad I can't apply this to gangbang events or other p4p nights. I guess I get nervous. 2-3 times and I'm drained and half impotent.
I'll try to get as many freebies as possible during my stay. If necessary I'll go for p4p and negotiate with the girls. I don't want to spend more than 100 dollars per hour. I wish you all guys did the same to keep the prices down on the market. Stop flashing with your dough.
Girls girls girls, yes we love them.
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[QUOTE=Liljoey;1268280]I'm American from NY so plenty of hot pussy around from every part of world, but more costly.[/QUOTE]How much do you think each of these $300 girls at Rio really cost you?
Don't forget:
The cost of airline ticket,
Rent for your apt in Kiev,
The money you pay for table dances (I assume you want to see their puddy to make sure before you take them home) ,
The money you pay to get in the club and the VIP room,
The cost of their drinks and cigs when they sit with you to talk to you (I assume you get them at least one drink). I know the other night 3 girls sat with me so I can interview them and I paid 730 grivna that night just for drinks.
I would say each girls cost you at least $430 not $300 since it seems you really don't stay long in Kiev.
Is it really worth all the time you spend flying?
And to be honest with you I don't think the RIO girls are that hot, it seems when you travel to Kiev you stay for a short time, I know I don't need 3 hours with the girls because I can't see a girl every night and bang her 2 times every night. 2 pops every night if physically too much.
I don't mind coming to Kiev for Rio once every 18 months but 3-4 times every year is just too much, I don't think the Rio girls are hot enough for me to do this.
BTW- has a good time with Bella, nice looking blonde, nice ass, I would rate her 7. 5.
There was another girl, young girl named Katrin, maybe she was new because I hadn't seen her before, spoke English, she was nice and young I would say probably 20.
Overrated Darina and Lera(nice ass) were there too, couldn't get a chance to talk to Katya
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[QUOTE=Muddy7;1268529]I don't mind coming to Kiev for Rio once every 18 months but 3-4 times every year is just too much, I don't think the Rio girls are hot enough for me to do this.[/QUOTE]I think most of the frequent travelers to Kiev are trying to cross the threshold into free pussy / girlfriends, something that may not be possible at home. The U. K. Guys have ridiculous amounts of talent at home but still fly out to Kiev.