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[QUOTE=Bangkok Banger] I have pics of some and will provide those to anyone who is interested and can provide me with some more recent leads. Please PM me if you are interested![/QUOTE]
Please post the pictures. That way I will know what girls to avoid in the future. If they are bbing with you, you can bet they are doing it with loads of other guys. One friend did it recently with a girl who allowed him to do it for an additional 1000 baht. Now his gf has a nasty infection down there that is causing her all sorts of problems. I wonder if that could be related? But hey you go ahead and spread something to a dozen different girls. You paid for it so you have the right don't you? What has actually surprised me over here lately are the number of guys who will only go bb and seem to think they are invulnerable and don't give two hoots about the girls. One sleaze-ball would get them back to his room, get into bed, get head and then try to screw them without a condom - if they protested he would kick them out without payment. You only wish a guy like that would catch something like leprosy of the dick.
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Bareback Sex
Thank you VERY VERY much, you guys that PM'd me with all that VERY useful info! I am getting ready to leave for the LOS in the next couple days, and I will get back to all of you that PM'd me, with those pics--just as soon as I get a little more time!
As to my posting identifiable pics of my bareback girls on the open board--that will NEVER happen! And as to getting involved in flame wars about this--I've already heard all the slams and insults that can possibly be aimed at me, already--so I am really just not interested. Nevertheless, I do feel that I MUST respond to this TOTALLY IRRELEVANT comment, which seems to me to be very close to a PERSONAL attack:
"One sleaze-ball would get them back to his room, get into bed, get head and then try to screw them without a condom. If they protested he would kick them out without payment. You only wish a guy like that would catch something like leprosy of the dick. "
I fail to see the relevance of the above comment in the context of discussing bareback sex. Treating girls like shit is NOT my modus operandi. I realize that bareback services are not "standard". My own standard practice is to generally negotiate up front. But above all, I treat them like LADIES. As for those sub-humans who try to take advantage of these precious girls by witholding payment, I do agree that they are animals, and should be horse-whipped! But please do NOT accuse ME (or the many other GENTLEMEN who happen to enjoy sex the natural way, as the good Lord intended) of being anything less than a gentlemen, just because we like our sex uncovered!
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I had a long draw out posting last night but ended ,up deleting the post since I was giving too much information about the U.S. Embassy.
I can't speak for the U.K. but I believe personally that many of the guidelines would be close to the U.S.
I will try to condense what I believe is the guidelines from my own experience in applying for a Tourist Visa a few years ago for my Thai wife. I was turn down 3 times and although they tell you it doesn't count against the applicant the more you are decline the harder it gets. The Embassy agents that do the interviews are trained and given a specific agenda and guideline and they do not have the power to make exceptions only the guys at the top do. From my experience given that you are applying in a country like Thailand I wouldn't be surprise that 9 out 10 applicants are former bargirls! Personally I was told directly at one interview that I would have been better off applying for a Immigration Visa rather than a Tourist Visa.
Certainly if you marry the women you are starting on the right track.
If you are going to be the sole supporter and you're not marry your dead in the water!
She should have a register business that can show she can support herself and land or property. Although my wife had land and property she was denied!
If you are applying for a Tourist Visa and Thailand isn't your designated home you are dead in the water!
The questions are in place to lead them to one conclusion and that is what is going to bring her back to Thailand?
In the end, if you know someone in higher places I suggest you ask for their help. Even then as I was told by a friend that help me in the State Department that no one likes to be told what to do! In the end after 3 declines my wife was issue a Tourist Visa for 30 days. We all went, came back, end of story! After this ordeal, I met a old friend she is now a top Immigration lawyer in California and gave me a free consultation last year about the Immigration process in the United States. Due to 9/11 the process now if you're lucky might take 2 years to immigrate your wife to the U.S.
Good luck, you're going to need it if you're not married and just a average joe!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mortman]Never a truer word spoken. I know several bar girls who married and moved over to the UK. It is not only the crap weather but the fact that these guys cannot support them in the way that the girls expected. What the bar girls fail to realise is that many of the tourists visiting them for an annual two week holiday spend the year before hand saving for the trip. They hold down low paid jobs with some living off welfare benefits (though how they afford to go to LOS is anyone's guess) To the girls these guys appear very affluent not realising that their escape to a better life means living on some council estate in a dingy apartment, where money is sparse and trips back to see their family few and far between. In fact quite a few of the thai ex WG's in the UK find themselves working back in their old trade just to make ends meet and many of the marriages do not last. That is not to say that some of the marriages do work, but they tend to be with guys who can afford to send their girl home a few times each year to visit family and who have a decent income/nice home. Having cable with Thai TV also helps![/QUOTE]
An ex-GF of mine took up with a self-proclaimed convicted drug-dealer from the UK in 2005, instead of getting back together with me because with his substantial ill-gotten gains, he bought her a house here, helped her family and took her back to the UK with him to live. I warned her that with not even A-levels, no skills and a finite pool of money that would dwindle quickly because he lacked the brains to put what he had to good use, that the good-life, such as it was would evaporate quickly. She dropped off the map about 3 years ago and it would be interesting to know what ultimately happened to her. I'm sure it all went bad, and she returned to Thailand older and with less chance of finding a job or another source of income.
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[QUOTE=Mortman]"The UK and Europe have loads of former bargirls married to (most often) working-class geezers providing them with a life, (far from the dream-life they expected) of loneliness, mediocrity and freezing their tits off in crappy weather."
Never a truer word spoken. I know several bar girls who married and moved over to the UK. It is not only the crap weather but the fact that these guys cannot support them in the way that the girls expected. What the bar girls fail to realise is that many of the tourists visiting them for an annual two week holiday spend the year before hand saving for the trip. They hold down low paid jobs with some living off welfare benefits (though how they afford to go to LOS is anyone's guess) To the girls these guys appear very affluent not realising that their escape to a better life means living on some council estate in a dingy apartment, where money is sparse and trips back to see their family few and far between. In fact quite a few of the thai ex WG's in the UK find themselves working back in their old trade just to make ends meet and many of the marriages do not last. That is not to say that some of the marriages do work, but they tend to be with guys who can afford to send their girl home a few times each year to visit family and who have a decent income/nice home. Having cable with Thai TV also helps![/QUOTE]
Replied in the Thai Women Opinions And Advive thread, where this dicussion belongs.
(I took the liberty of fixing your quote btw)
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Replied in the Thai Women Opinions And Advive thread, where this dicussion belongs.
(I took the liberty of fixing your quote btw)[/QUOTE]
And now you might take the liberty of fixing your own, as there seems to be a bit of duplicity in same. ;)
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The conversation started here and should end here! TT, please define to me exactly what you think the Bangkok Thread postings should be?
Thanks, LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The conversation started here and should end here! TT, please define to me exactly what you think the Bangkok Thread postings should be?
Thanks, LBM[/QUOTE]
That's an easy one.
Sex experiences in Bangkok that are not better placed in another thread.
But nothing wrong with answering a question in the same thread as the question.
But if Terry likes to switch threads, it becomes easier to ignore his replies. :D
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]And now you might take the liberty of fixing your own, as there seems to be a bit of duplicity in same. ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks Daddy. Either my cut n paste skills are deteriorating or my puter's on the blink!
[quote=LittleBigMan]The conversation started here and should end here! TT, please define to me exactly what you think the Bangkok Thread postings should be?[/quote]
Bangkok Reports thread should be? Reports concerning Bangkok maybe? That way, if someone is looking for info about Bangkok they will find it easily in the Bangkok Reports thread without having to wade through offtopic. And if someone is looking for opinions and advice about Thai women living in the UK.....you guessed it. Or maybe Jackson prefers the Thailand threads all jumbled up, I dont know :D.
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier] Or maybe Jackson prefers the Thailand threads all jumbled up, I dont know :D.[/QUOTE]
Recently, a lot of "jumbling" is happening.
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TT,
It seems you yourself couldn't answer the question and be more specific as to what should be talked about on the Bangkok Thread. Just look at your reply " Bangkok thread should be? Reports concerning Bangkok maybe" just the fact that we are having such a conversation on this thread tells you it might be impossible to not jumble up the threads or to get caught up in the conversation.
I wonder why we are splitting the threads? Are there not massage places in Bangkok and should they not be in the Bangkok Thread. Maybe this should be part of the rules everytime someone start or gets off track. Instead of responding to the question we as members take the time to just say!
This is the Bangkok Thread and your response will be found in the Living in Thailand Thread for example.
Now that is something to think about. LBM
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Cover Up
[QUOTE=Bangkok Banger]Thank you VERY VERY much, you guys that PM'd me with all that VERY useful info! I am getting ready to leave for the LOS in the next couple days, and I will get back to all of you that PM'd me, with those pics--just as soon as I get a little more time!
As to my posting identifiable pics of my bareback girls on the open board--that will NEVER happen! And as to getting involved in flame wars about this--I've already heard all the slams and insults that can possibly be aimed at me, already--so I am really just not interested. Nevertheless, I do feel that I MUST respond to this TOTALLY IRRELEVANT comment, which seems to me to be very close to a PERSONAL attack:
"One sleaze-ball would get them back to his room, get into bed, get head and then try to screw them without a condom. If they protested he would kick them out without payment. You only wish a guy like that would catch something like leprosy of the dick. "
I fail to see the relevance of the above comment in the context of discussing bareback sex. Treating girls like shit is NOT my modus operandi. I realize that bareback services are not "standard". My own standard practice is to generally negotiate up front. But above all, I treat them like LADIES. As for those sub-humans who try to take advantage of these precious girls by witholding payment, I do agree that they are animals, and should be horse-whipped! But please do NOT accuse ME (or the many other GENTLEMEN who happen to enjoy sex the natural way, as the good Lord intended) of being anything less than a gentlemen, just because we like our sex uncovered![/QUOTE]
The negative reaction you received is similar to the ones many other posters who overtly seek out BB sex on this board received. I don't agree with your BB approach but I agree with you about the ineffectiveness of attacking you or engaging in name calling because you are seeking out BB sex. In my experience this is one of the easiest type of sex to get in BKK; many girls routinely offer it or offer little or no resistance to request for it at all. You obviously are aware of the risks and that it is a taboo subject on this board as you took the time to register a new name to be incognito so the attacks or advices you received here is unlikely to affect your behavior. The fact that you even received PMs from posters on this board advising about the availability of BB sex adds to the point that BB sex is more modish than we may know or want to believe.
That people would get bent out of shape about this is a bit puzzling. The best way to protect yourself is obviously to ensure you (the concerned punter) is covered up but if you are engaging in promiscuous sex, you are taking risks, whether you are covered or not. Know also that for every one poster who overtly seek out BB sex on this board there are too many to mention girls out there engaging in this type of sex. Girls you are likely to have an encounter with if you engage in the game of punting, it is a risky business.
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LBM. want to clarify his position so that no one should be puzzle as to my response to Bangkok Banger or is it Bareback Jimmy? or something as it was pointed out to me by another ISG member from the Philippine board that Jackson ban you from?
You ask whatever questions you like and do whatever or however you like cover or uncover. My position shouldn't be puzzling nor am I bent out of shape. I just perfer to be covered and I hopefully I won't run into or be into any of the girls that you have bareback! Us guys on this board and any other board like this are taking a risk just being covered. Although it feels great and there is no dispute about that but there is no dispute that your risk is greater going bareback But don't hide behind another handle just because you don't like the responses you get by asking the same question! and please don't think for a minute that being " infertile " is going to reduce your risk. That to me makes no sense and I hope you come to your senses the next time you use that line!
Nevertheless, I wish you good health in what you are doing!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]
That people would get bent out of shape about this is a bit puzzling. /QUOTE]
I think you may be missing the point that some of us want to make. I could care less about the health of Bangkok Banger - he knows the risks and if he gets something so be it. I do care though about the girls he may be infecting. To go to 3rd world countries where you can often easily convince girls with no means, rent coming due and a fifth grade education to let you cum inside of them to me is just about as low as you can get. Sexual imperialism. Sure I know people like BB figure they are just prostitutes - born victims - so who cares about them - they deserve what they get - but some of us don't feel that way and actually are fond of a lot of these girls.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin]
I think you may be missing the point that some of us want to make. .[/QUOTE]
Moved to the Safe Sex thread.