Dutch44. Short report on Centro Termas and the low cost Escort agencies
Dear fellow mongers,
It is my pleasure to send you a report from the city of Rio. Evening now, Saturday night. 25 degrees celsius (77F) , the city is humming and the smell of the sea (I'm close to the beach in Ipanema) fills the streets, mixed with the exhaust gases of the many yellow taxis and buses. In the last two days I've been to several tier 2 rated Termas in Centro, like Termas 502, T81, T21 and so on. See the Bubba Brazil Report for details. (BTW they close around 22h00 on Friday) to be honest, I would rate them tier 3. The stairs, rooms, hallway are simply so dirty that you wonder what kind of bacterial life forms they host. I'm quite sure some new, never discovered (and dangerous) species can be found there.
Anyway, I looked around and decided this was not my thing. So I headed to 4x4 on Rua Buenos aires 44 which was very close. I still think this is one of the very best Termas in Rio, possibly THE best. I got there around 22h00, Friday evening. It was not as busy as usual. Perhaps some 30 ladies and 30 guys only. Those numbers are usually at least double.
Anyway, I just hung around and looked at some of the ladies dancing. Man can they dance here, it seems all are born with samba genes. Those hips swing in a way I thought physically impossible. That night the majority were big bunda girls, which is not my thing. By big I mean huge asses actually. Obesity is on the rise world-wide, including Brasil. Too bad for me. I like them thin.
Anyway, my eyes spotted a dark skinned garota dancing with such skill and energy that I could not miss it. She was gorgeous, thin, beautiful hips, eyes, a body made in heaven. To me she looked somewhat like Halle Berry. Since it had gotten rather late (4x4 really slows down after 23h00) I decide to ask her what she was doing after the closing hours. To cut a long story short, for 300R she spent the night with me (Cab was 30R from centro to Ipa) Incredible experience. I do not know if it was me, but when we were finished making love and she was sleeping beside me, I could have sworn I spent the night with Halle Berry in the wildest "cat women" version. Jeez, where else but in Rio. Gems can still be found. It is getting harder, but still possible.
Today (Saturday) was Escort day. I first contacted scortshow. I choose Dafne. Well I can only say: GREAT! Looks=7 to 8, service = 8+ (on a scale from 1-10) Recommended. Quality really varies with these escort agencies. You can end up with a (bored) girl that rushes things, or you could end up with a total pleasurable GFE. Dafne has a beautiful slim body and is quite tall (1m70) I asked her who else she could recommend. She mentioned Maise. I do not know her, but she said Maisa has a nice personality. (blond. 22 years. 1m67) On the scortshow site Maisa looked great BTW.
At these lower cost escort agencies (scortshow, karlamodels and starcris) you have about a 50-50 percent chance to find a really nice girl. So it takes a little perseverance, but the reward can be there. The price is great too. Basically 120R for 2 hours in your hotel / apartment. Thats just 50 Euro. Add to that taxi costs which is another 30-50R. (12-20 Euro) Anyway there is plenty info on this forum regarding those agencies. Please do note that some hotels do charge extra if you take a girl to the room (typically 50-80R). Some non GFE friendly hotels refuse. Thats why I prefer an apartment.
So there it is. All have fun and stay safe (and wear your rubbers)
Dutch44
Hi Bubba, I know what you mean (Obesity in Brasil)
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1138096]At 7pm arrived at 4x4. I love 4x4, just love sitting there and watching the happenings. It was actually less busy than normal, you could actually walk around without the need to push and shove people out of the way. It was nice not being pushed and shoved around as well. A bit of space was nice. What wasn't nice was the talent.....[/QUOTE]I got in around 22h00, may have seen you without knowing it was you. 4x4 talent is less than 2009/2010 (from what I remember). One of the things I observe in Brasil is that obesity is hitting the GDP's hard. A large ass is one thing, but if everything becomes big and fat I run the other way. Pity, girls here used to look like photo-models, but that is getting less nowadays.
Dutch44
Tipping at the front desk
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1138096]Had some free time on Friday night hence went for a strategic Terma run. I haven't been to Cancun nor 4x4 in a while, a while being maybe 6 weeks. In fact haven't been doing enough mongering of late, have been busy doing other things. Anyway.
Cancun, got there at about 5pm, place was just filling up. 80% of girls were already there. Not many guys at this stage. I was there to basically just see all the talent. That is I planned a stay of 2 hours to catch the full roster of women. I love the facilities at Cancun, nice and new, however I have never had much luck with the talent there. I tend to find the look is kind of big average looking girls. The look I find unattractive. Having said this I have banged a lot of girls that have worked at Cancun, just haven't seen many hot girls when they were actually there. I guess the girls that I like don't do well at Cancun and leave in a short time. Ended up very dissappoined, not even a maybe for me. Paid R$50 for entrance which included 2 beers.
At 7pm arrived at 4x4. I love 4x4, just love sitting there and watching the happenings. It was actually less busy than normal, you could actually walk around without the need to push and shove people out of the way. It was nice not being pushed and shoved around as well. A bit of space was nice. What wasn't nice was the talent. I always tend to find 1 or 3 hot girls at 4x4. Tend to see a lot of average girls and below as well of course. This time I saw Katia, very hot, very popular for about 5 minutes before she was dragged upstairs. Apart from her really didn't see much else worth jumping on. No real super hotties there. Ended up staying for 3 hours and had about 4 beers, bill was R$86. Beers were Heineken at R$ 9 a pop. Is it just me or can't you buy cans there anymore for R$5? I checked my change very carefully as I have had problems with the receptionists there before. She very quickly gave me R$10 then very slowly another R$4. I don't mind tipping for great service but the cows, I mean receptionists, there get R$0 from me because of there bad thieving past. On the way out the security guy of course asks for a tip, I just look back at him on the way past and give him the WTF look. Yes I am getting grumpier in my old age. [/QUOTE]This reminds me of the two garotas that work at the front desk of Solarium. Always asking for a tip on the way out. Give me a break! A tip for what? For taking my money and putting it in their cash register?
I can't stand it when they do that. I just give themthe WTF look as well. I even speak to them in Porto, so its not like they are translating anything for me, and doing me any favors. They must have nothing to lose by asking, cause I am sure some baffoon tourists have tipped them in the past. Believe me, I highly doubt any Brazilian would tip them.
Its up to each person, what they value
I tip in Rio even though it may not be the norm or the local custom. It has been repaid to me many times over because of the as good will established and friendship between the requestor and me. For example, at the hotel, I left the safe open once with over BR2000, $500, credit cards, passport out in the open from early in the morning till I came home from my trip downtown. Nothing was missing.
At the termas. 4 X 4 more than once I've misplaced my keys, forgot to lock my locker, left the keys at the bar, left the keys at the sauna, left the keys at the room, and so on (Yes, I am very forgetful at times). The workers always seem to find me and return my misplaced stuff and not once have they tried to get over by trying to charge things on my account. Now, they will ask if they can have a soda, buy them a burger, whatever; for what they have saved me from I've always said no problem to them.
Just try and treat these people with some courtesy and respect and believe me, what comes back your way will be worth much more than a few reals or a drink or a snack. It might be priceless.
[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1138167]4x4, Cancun and T502 have tip beggars. At 4x4 an older morena locker room attendant passed me a note for a tip. At Cancun the girls near the 3rd floor showers begged for tips, and at T502 the girls at the desk and the fat guy at the entrance begged for tips. Just give them what you want or nothing at all. The beg Americans for times because we brought that customs overseas with us. We in the US are taught to tip. As a waitress my more raised 5 kids with her tips, and she told me to tip. When I travel it's a insurance that I get favors when I want. If you tip the older glasses wearing brown skin woman in the locker room, she'll run in the rain to give you your dropped wallet like she did my buddy. Or give you your credit card that you leave at the cashier like she did me. Give them something, but I don't give beggars anything. But for brazilians they don't get tips from brazilians, so they are awkward and annoying with their begging.[/QUOTE]
Tipping is fine, however.......
My point was that tipping is fine, however, a tip is well earned when they actually do something to earn it. Those two ladies in the front desk at Solarium don't do a darn thing to deserve any kind of tip. I am sure they are wll compensated, they handle lots of money and transaction. I am sure they are well trusted by management (very top) , hence get good pay.
I have spoken to them 2 ladies in front desk) quite a bit, and they have done their fair share of travel out of the country, so its safe to say they are not dirt poor. That being said, if they actually did something out of the ordinary, I would tip them.
BTW, as for the older black lady who works at 4 x 4, I have been tipping her for years. Even during her days at Luomo's. She goes out of her way to make sure I am comfortable with robes and sandals, etc. I gladly tip her. It all comes down to whether they do some out of the norm or at least attempt to do something to earn it. Same thing applies to the working girls. Just my 2 cents.
ATM / Debit Card Attempted Cloning
I was in Rio the first few days of this month and used my ATM / Debit card TWICE at the HSBC bank on N. S. Copacabana near Francisco Sa. I'm very careful to guard my PIN. I tried using the same card here at home yesterday and today at 2 different restaurants and was declined so I tried a nearby ATM and was also declined. I called my bank and they told me the card was shut down because the PIN was entered incorrectly 3 times on the 22nd and 23rd (Tue. And Wed.) of this week. They said the card holder was present and the card was mag swiped but the PIN was entered incorrectly. I was no where near Rio on the 22nd and 23rd. Card canceled. New card ordered. This is just a heads up, watch your accounts closely after using your ATM / debit cards in Rio.