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Just my 2 cents in support of Vegamars.
Maybe I should be bann to write those words but it is just an historical fact. The mistress of Giacomo Casanova himself ( he called her Zaire) when he lived in Russia was 13-14 years old. Casanova was 36 years old at that time. He fell in love with her and they finally broke only because of her jealousy.
So even if the great Casanova should be considered as a monster all the mongers of the world must find another model then.
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I found this article on:
http://www.geocities.com/thekyivbeet/june21.html
I thought it might add some light relief after the storm!
Business: New Prostitute Uniform Introduced
KYIV - As a result of consistent pressure from the prostitution lobby, the Ministry of Labor has come out with the new official hooker's uniform. The NGO, "Selected Ukrainian Registered Prostitutes"- or SLURP - has won their battle to reduce the confusion over who is a prostitute and who is not. "Now that the summer is here, as usual all the girls will be dressing up and looking like prostitutes, but really aren't," said SLURP President Olga Slutskaya, "and that ends up hurting our business." Foreign men and Ukrainians alike have, since independence, been confused over who is and who is not working. The result has been a loss of revenue for the legitimate hookers, and moments of embarrassment for regular Ukrainian girls who are incorrectly solicited by Johns. "This one girl slapped me upside my head when I asked her how much," said Eric Longstreet, a long-time ex-pat in Kyiv, "and I was so frazzled that I forgot about the whole thing for that night." The new uniform will be an ensemble outfit consisting of Stilleto heels, a black spandex mini-skirt, low-cut lace top and a yellow belt. Effective immediately, any girl that is wearing this outfit in public and is solicited, must accept the offer from the John or be faced with a 1000 Hr. fine from the authorities. Natasha (refused to give her last name) commenting on the new uniform toldThe Beet, I'm going to have to be careful this summer, or I'll ending up sleeping with more guys than necessary." The new regulations are not expected to affect American or Canadian women.
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Aw jesus, I'm getting a fucking headache over here.
I can't understand anything you bastards are kelping about.
Its fucking creepy, I mean, some people say, if the girl sucks your blood,
then she'll try to sell you down the river.
So who fucking cares, you might as well set a big pile of money on fire.
Its always a bad decision when you're horny.
Just go and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] all over a meat popsicle.
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I'm not a senior member but why is it that people here choose to fight in public postings rather than in PMs? I don't really get why everyone should be exposed to these silly little rebutall=after- rebutalls.
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Dear Zizz Bang,
I am laughing my ass off on seeing your note on the refund policy. I have never ever heard anything as wild as that. May the force be with you.
Experienced Ukraine / Russia Mongers,
First off let me congratulate you all for the wonderful work. I have been a passive member for a long time and enjoyed the posts. So far there hasn't been anything significant to report of.
I am a very adventurous person as far as going to different countries goes. But on the issue of mongering, I feel a little out of place if money is not the only medium of negotiation.
I am assuming that most of you are white americans. So the recent backlash against folks from the middle east would not be an issue. I am from India but I am a Sikh . Due to the closeness of my land to the arab world, the dress is a bit influenced by theirs. Other than that I do not even have the basic understanding of Islam.
My mind usually works like everyone here but my appearence confuses most people. I usually have a turban on and my beard and moustage sometimes make people shy away. usually as a tourist or on business, it does not affect me. And in a few minutes the other person gets comfortable talking to me.
But I am assuming that from a girls's point of view ( the semi professional ones in clubs), it would be illogical to warm up to a tall , 200lbs indian. On the contrary, giving directions to a tourist is a relatively risk free / effort free thing.
I have very little info about the dress code for men in Russia / Ukraine but my russian friends in new york look like the regular city people. Please advise if my fears are ill founded or not.
Sincere advise highly appreciated.
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Royal21 - the reality is that if you do not look european but are traveling into Ukraine be prepared a.) to be stopped by the plice rather often who will ask for your papers trying to figure a way to scam $ from you (always carry but safely carry your passport with you...). In the big cities where there are a lot of tourists though despite the rather likely police stopping you should be OK. I've heard of skinheads but I think it's more in Russia than in Ukraine, at least in Kiev and Odessa.... How people dress...? Well, dress in black or gray clothing, yes that's the general extent of colors for males...perhaps a nice drak brown or black leather (not suede) jacket... nice but not flashy (unless you work for the mob)...If you wear sunglasses make sure they';re not too fancy - if they are really glitzy it's guanteed that walking some stupid cop there will try and squeeze you for money... If I were you I'd skip jewelry of any kind since you'll be a target. I look like them and thus do not stand out... In your case you simply will stand out...and you'll just ahve to be wary in general.... If you plan out your trip you should be OK though...
Rendorseg
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Thank you rendorseg. I did not think about the police angle at all. Its definately better to be prepared than being sorry. But how is the scene in clubs and the attitude of women in general to someone who looks like me?
I was in turkey last year, i enjoyed the trip a lot. But when i went to the club in Serenda Hotel the security just would not let me go in with my turban. It seems in their culture only the sultan wears a turban. It took a lot of convincing on my part that i was not imitating the sultan and that i cannot remove my turban either.
That reaction kind of surprised me. It happened only in Serenda which supposedly is the best known place to pick up working girls. Just want to be mentally prepared this time, that all. I surely am not going to give up mongering because of my appearence :-)
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Hi Royal,
Yeah, you'll stand out, but in my humble opinion I found Kyiv very safe. Let me say straight away I'm white, but hung around with an Indian (Hindu) and a black guy for a while in my trip.
Some people are curious, and that can be a good thing as they assured me, but don't get curious confused with distrust.
There is a small amount of ignorance, but I've never heard of it manifesting itself in violence or robbery. As rendorseg wrote, visible signs of affluence are far more likely to result in attention.
BTW - Sikhs are great!! Be brave, go, enjoy, then write!
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Royal - what about the clubs... well it depends where you go when.... usually certain Kiev clubs are jammed but now all the chicas are reportedly down south... funny thing is that when I've been in the beach areas in the south the weather's been bad and the clubs empty... the ones I found were snooty, snobby... I think this was really a function of the season not being right (the working girls were in school or back in Kiev...) Well, yes I did have experiences...
I honestly think that this is the way you will 100% have a good time: go to captain69's website or perhaps here you'll find the web address for the approx 5 high end escort companies... find 2-3 of the girls who turn you on... make an appointment with them for the shortest time... that way the agency will rip you off for the least amount. then propose to be with the girl(s) on your own without the agency... usually it works like a charm and the girls tend to be well 'trained' in sexual arts...
I'll be seeing one of my lovelies I hooked up with a few months ago (it was early spring, the clubs were dead and the tochkas were too slimy) via an agency (paid them short time, got her phone no.) when I come out to Odessa again in September...
Anyways, unless you'll be there a long time I'd hedge your bets.
Good luck!
redorseg
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Does anyone have experience with Ksusha escort (www.ksusha-escort.com) ?
Captain69 claims that pics are fake and some guys were ripped off, paid for travel expenses and girl didn't show up.
I sent a girl a mail. She replied. When I asked for more pics (to prove that she is indeed the girl on web site), no more reply.
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Thank you Knight, rendorseg.
I love curosity, especially from the fairer sex. Its a wonderful way to get past the initial hi and hello.
I am working on taking a holiday in sep/oct . The world is such a big and interesting place. Soviet block always interested me and the beauty there is breath taking. ( I wish you a good time with your lovelies, rendorseg). But I am researching other places too. Usually the more off beat the place, the more it interests me.
From the posts here, I am confused about the whole cell phone number deal.
1. What makes the girl give out her cell phone number to any one walking on the street after 2 minutes of talking?
2. How do you guys manage all those numbers? Do you remember which number is which girls? where you met her and how she looked like? (I do see scope for a small pda database to store all that information)
3. Does getting a number mean, you can call her whenever for whatever? I am sure the interpretation will differ from person to person but what is the consensus?
4. How do i get a cell phone if i am there for a week? (any prepaid services?)
Thanks for all the wonderful replies and reports.
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rendorseg,
You mentioned "toshka's", in your last report. Do "toshka's", exist in Kiev and the Ukraine? I thought they were just something you find in Moscow?
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Ludo - Like I said the ones that do exist are not good at all> a cabbie once hustled me over to one in Odessa but the selection was slim pickin's skanky, I went back again one more time and it was the same. Don't know 'bout Kiev though.
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Royal21,
Tusi aajao Ukraine yaar. koi darne sharne di gal ee nai hain. din mein sharab hor raat de shabab de naal aish keega ;)
Raj Karega Khalsa!
P.S. for all non Punjabi speaking people, the above line translates as, " royal21, dont be scared of Ukraine, just hop over, and you shall be treated to wine in the day and women in the night".
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I'm almost certain there are no tochkas in Kyiv. Yes one exists in Odessa, but only at the docks, for sea-faring types who've been on the waves too long to be choosy.
Moscow is the tochka king, and well worth a visit.