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Addendum
Iseeu,
La Cheminée allows single men on Thursday afternoons (Re : my previous post).
You are true when you mention that Routard's list may not be complete or totally up-to-date. No such list can be anyway, as times, rules and customership may vary very quickly.
But, as far as I can see, and as far as I know the French scene, Routard's list is one of the most useful tools for France.
Frenchie
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La province
Frenchie,
Thank you for your usefull info, highlighting the best clubs in Paris from this list. You seem to have a good knowledge about the parisan Clubs. But what about rest of France? Except may be Cap d'Agde, it is not easy to have info about clubs outside Paris. I believe there are some real gems outside Paris. Some websites showed real upscale clubs including even lodging (probably because swingers come from very far to meet themselves in those remote and discrete areas).
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Routards's Sauna clubs
Hello fellow mongers,
after reading the impressively detailed Routard's post, I'd really like to go and try a Sauna-Hammam club... the idea of relaxing, enjoying a good sauna and/or hammam, and making some good encounters seems really interesting...
But I like much LESS the idea of finding myself surrounded by homos searching their legitimate pleasure...
I'm not into making new experiences... at least not of that kind.
Does anyone have any suggestions, among the clubs Routard reported, or among others not listed, for a good sauna hammam club where to spend a few hours?
I've tried to search info on the web, but they are not always clear: Atlantis for ex is not described as a gay sauna...
Thanks in advance!
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French swinger clubs
Hi Routard,
Again great job...and done in the true spirit of this forum. I agree that there is often conflicting info available on opening times, fees, etc.I usually check some of the french swinger sites to see any updates and have also used Pariscope as a guide.
I've been to a number of clubs in the Cote D'Azur area, which draw a little different type of crowd and have a different savoir faire. Actually there's a wealth of info available on the innumerable French swinger sites. I've also been to a swingers club in Italy ( there are some in or near the major cities) and to FKK like-clubs outside of Barcelona and Madrid and in Switxerland. I wish that I had the time to contribute a lengthy researched post like you've done.
Global Pussy Search-LOL. You should get a copyright on that and market it to Hertz and Avis. How about cross-referencing the list to Earth Google?
Frenchie,
re La Cheminee - I was referring to nights - you're right some of the clubs which restrict single men access at night are open to them for the afternoon session. I'm ususally in Paris for business, so I don't have afternoons free, but the few times that I have gone, I found the mass of men panting and following after the few female specimens to be, for lack of a better word "uncool".
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Member 1006,
It is true that most sauna hammam in Paris are for gay. I allready deleted a few of the list that were obviously for gay.
If you really are into hammam and sauna, try this one (not in Paris):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=387973&postcount=572[/url]
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Thanks, but....
[QUOTE=Routard]Member 1006,
It is true that most sauna hammam in Paris are for gay. I allready deleted a few of the list that were obviously for gay.
If you really are into hammam and sauna, try this one (not in Paris):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=387973&postcount=572[/url][/QUOTE]
Hi Routard,
thanks for your quick answer!
I would really like to go to a FKK (and in that case Oase, Palace or World are on top of my list), but this time I am searching for something here in Paris, maybe less cool, but good for a relaxing afternoon or evening.
FKK Palace is a wonderful place, like toyland for a mongerer, but it requires some effort and planification: travelling to Frankfurt by car or by plane, eventually an hotel for the night...
If one does not happen to be in the area, it's a little complicated to organize everything...
I am searching for something like the small grocery store down the road, and I'll keep the huge shopping mall for another time... it's worth the effort.
I prefere to try my chance in a nice swinger sauna/hammam club and plan accurately a good visit to an FKK asap.
Which of the clubs you mentioned are better in your opinion?
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Sorry, but...
member 1006,
sorry for my fkk addiction. yes, when i'm in paris, i'm allready close enough to feel the fkk vibrations that keep calling me. no need for any organisation. i forget to book any hotel in paris or elsewhere. after my afternoon business meetings, i jump in my rent car for a few hours drive. automatic speed control, gps orientation control, listening nice music, and dreaming about the sexual fantasies i want to make true that night. once in fkk, i can take my shower, have dinner and spend a nice relaxing night with all the lady's. at closing time, i drive backwards right on time for my early morning business meetings in paris. depending the available time, i chose a fkk as far as frankfurt, or closer in dusseldorf or even saarbrucken. that easy! we have only one life, and it's short. but i agree, i'm addicted.
i don't want to escape your question. the problem is that even finding your small grocery store is not that easy. most recommended swing clubs in paris (check for example frenchie's list of recommendation), are le pluriel, le prélude, la cheminée, quai 17, overside and chris et manu, but they have not the sauna hammam you are looking for. most sauna hammam in paris are used by gays.
what can i say? try may be the sultana. i have never been, but there were a few nice reports about this place. i heard that this place had to face some police raids due to the masseuses. i don't know how is this place now. avoid the afternoon, and call before to check if they allow singles that evening. and if money is not an issue, take an escort with you. it will allow you to enter on evenings forbidden to singles, and it will be more easy to score. i can confirm you that also the street workers on avenue foch and victor hugo are used to escort customers in swing clubs.
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Thanks anyway!
Thanks anyway Routard,
I'll try my chance one of these days in a club... if it goes well, I'll post a report....
And sooner or later I'll go to a FKK!!
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Montmartre
Saw some strange stuff in Montmartre 2 weeks ago, about 9pm. Near the Abbesses Metro, cross the street and head towards the church. Keep walking until you come to the cafe St. Jean, then hang a left there - I believe it's Rue Germain Pilon. You just walk a short distance down the hill until you come to Rue Vernon, hang a left there. There are some unusual activities going on there in that area.
Saw one hideous tranny, but a few that "looked" real. I did not participate, just reporting what I saw. Maybe someone adventurous will check it out.
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Just to add a wee bit more info to Routard's excellent list...
Au Pluriel Club costs a single male approximately 105 Euros including a buffet and coat check... Additional drinks are 5 or 10 Euros, I think. Single men are allowed at all times and most couples who go there are seeking that atmosphere.
The comments about Le Cheminee are very accurate and if you are not into aggressive group sex, meaning that you may have to elbow your way into position, you may not enjoy the atmosphere. Although, I must admit that one Sunday evening a few years ago there were at least 80 couples and an equal number of men and it was an absolute great time! The afternoons tend to be just the same old crowd, 50's is being kind and an occasional newbie. Friday nights require a reservation unless you are a regular.
Just to reiterate for everyone who reads the posts about how great they are... They can be GREAT!!! OR, they can be totally dead. Everything depends on many factors, such as school holidays, weather, etc. Expect to spend a minimum of 100 Euros for an evening at one.
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night life in paris
Hello guys,
Next week I will go to paris this is my first visit. So I dont know anything about the night life there. Are there any famous streets or bars or places that I can find russians or others? And if you inform me about the rates I wil be very happy.
Waiting for your news.
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Rtff
[QUOTE=Rashard45]Hello guys,
Next week I will go to paris this is my first visit. So I dont know anything about the night life there. Are there any famous streets or bars or places that I can find russians or others? And if you inform me about the rates I wil be very happy.
Waiting for your news.[/QUOTE
I think the best is that you RTTF, first , all information are there
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Chinoise
I am back from 2 weeks away from France and checked the scene
A lot a Chinese were working around the porte Dorée and Porte de Vincennes
I counted at least 30in less than 5 minutes for all taste, small , tall, young , old, nice, ugly.
Picked a nice looking one , 30, very small tits but nice body, decided for a quicky in the car in a nearby parking as I had little time.
DEnis
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Hi All:
I was in Paris for a couple of days and decided to cruise my old favorite haunts, Nation to Porte de Vincennes. Unlike Denis, I did not see a single girl after at least 1 hour of cruising. This is certainly not like the old days when one had the choice of many white girls. However, I am not too surprised as the last time I was here, I saw several cops harassing the street girls.
Not sure but maybe a crackdown chased them away? In any case it is no big deal as I wasn't that much in the mood anyway.
Stay safe!
AHT169
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[QUOTE=aht169]Hi All:
I was in Paris for a couple of days and decided to cruise my old favorite haunts, Nation to Porte de Vincennes. Unlike Denis, I did not see a single girl after at least 1 hour of cruising. This is certainly not like the old days when one had the choice of many white girls. However, I am not too surprised as the last time I was here, I saw several cops harassing the street girls.
Not sure but maybe a crackdown chased them away? In any case it is no big deal as I wasn't that much in the mood anyway.
Stay safe!
AHT169[/QUOTE]
AHT
I agree there are not too many girls anymore between Nation and Porte de Vincennes, but now there are Chinese near the Porte de St mandé, Porte Dorée.
Just curious , did you cruise at night? or during the day?
DEnis