I walked by the entrance around 5:00 pm. Sorry guys! Fechado!
Someone else has to take over the duty of keeping tabs on the possibble openning of 4 x 4 for the next few days. I will be out of town for a couple of days.
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I walked by the entrance around 5:00 pm. Sorry guys! Fechado!
Someone else has to take over the duty of keeping tabs on the possibble openning of 4 x 4 for the next few days. I will be out of town for a couple of days.
I would like to make this post about 4x4 closing or a debate about why it's OK to use a guide in Rio as long as you pay him and he doesn't spam the board with ads for staying in his apartment. Just to fit in. But I digress.
Tonight I had planned to meet a little hottie from a private at my apartment. But she bailed on me last minute. Leaving me in a mind for fun. And, well, I was torn between visiting a galpal at L'Uomo or hitting up MC. Both are about 5 mins from my office. The night was young.
MC's was hopping. Probably 40 girls, maybe at most 10 guys. About 10+ girls from 4x4. Refugees. You can tell them by their big ol' bundas. Still the same party atmosphere. But I'd say the quality has gone down a notch or two, really a bunch of 6s. I had a free entrada, so I was about to head out after 30 mins of looking when I saw a girl I liked. She'd just returned after about 2-3 months away, as had 1-2 others. There was a bit of an exodus end of April / May. This girl Cintia is a young mulatta, kind of looks like hale berry used to. Fun time had by all for 1 hr. R$385 all in including a beer for her (Bohemia, classy!) and a water for me. Free entrada.
So I get out and am feeling all peckish. Hit up Big Bi for a salgado and a Graviola. And I'm like, well, I still have R$400 and L'uomo is like RIGHT THERE. So I head on in. Maybe 5 other guys in the boate. Felt like tops 20 girls. Low energy, lots of lounging around. Went straight over to my gal pal and hung out with her for an hour, by the end she was all over me. Told her I'd only brought enough for 40 mins. Fun time had by all. Apparently I remain "muito gostoso." Quem sabe? R$275 somehow on my way out. Maybe there was a discounted entrance? 40 mins in cabine, no drinks. Got there at 9pm.
BTW neither manager really had unique insight into what happened at 4x4. My girl at L'uomo said the Fed Police came today and checked all the lockers and all the girls' IDs, but left afterwards without incident. Guy at MC told me they have to pay off at least 3 different branches of the cops. Said MC hasn't been raided since 1981.
Oh yeah, I did manage to walk to MCs and then to Luomo without a guide.
There I accomplished my initial goal. Return to your usual bickering!
-Cartman
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist;1175501]Sounds like reasonable price. If that was all included. Admission, room, girl. But I don't go to Florida (aren't they open only at night?). I also normally take shorter times that are cheaper, too.[/QUOTE]The prices are Florida at inclusive of the girl and room. There is an entrada though. It was I think R10 when I went last in February and then girls were R120/40. Yes, it's open only at night but I've seen girls leaning out the door to catch a ray of sun as early as 2 pm. As I mentioned in my response to T&A's post, some of them live there. And I'm sure they'd session in the afternoon if you walked in and found one awake. The service varies greatly, but I am a fan. As for shorter times, a guy can do just 15 minutes at U210 or Lazer 13 which are on Spertos list for those who are interested. I laugh a little when I see that 15 min course on the casa menus because lately it takes me 15 or 20 to savor DFK, DATY, 69 before I ever think about going for the goal. Just becoming a romantic monger I guess, BFE, haha. I like to treat a puta with my best effort and see if she reciprocates.
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1176238]Luomo R$275 somehow on my way out. Maybe there was a discounted entrance? 40 mins in cabine, no drinks. Got there at 9pm.
-Cartman[/QUOTE]
And what is it typically these days? R310? Maybe you are getting a frequent fucker discount? The people must know you by now.
All this crap about raids is making me think to just try for some freebs next time, like Brazil Cupid and Lapa and if that doesn't work after a couple days I would head down to Buenos Aires. I can't believe that these higher end places would have forgotten to pay their tributes. Something is wrong, from a high level.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1175523]Beware gringos seeking gifts and offering free tours. Since TandAforever was not knowledgeable of the city and doesn't speak Portuguese he did a smart thing in paying a professional to take him around and introduce him to women of legal age.[/QUOTE]You hit the key point, speaking Porto. Simply visiting a highly regarded casa doesn't mean that one will get the services like BBBJ, anal, etc because it varies from girl to girl within a casa and there is no real standard of service even at the high end termas. If a guide will go into the places and help to interview, that would be valuable. But I am not so sure if this service is helping with interviewing.
Some people come into Rio on short notice and never get a chance to study beforehand to understand the geography, transit, etc. So for those people who are coming in green, I would recommend getting a reputable guide. That way you don't get robbed, or shaken down by cops, or anything like that. I can think of a couple trips in other countries where I came in green on short notice and should have hired a guide to keep me from crossing paths with bandits and crooked cops. Same stuff can happen in Rio; especially outside Copa. I seem to remember you or your GF telling me about some gringo getting robbed in Botafogo, of all places.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1176261]Some people come into Rio on short notice and never get a chance to study beforehand to understand the geography, transit, etc. So for those people who are coming in green, I would recommend getting a reputable guide. That way you don't get robbed, or shaken down by cops, or anything like that. I can think of a couple trips in other countries where I came in green on short notice and should have hired a guide to keep me from crossing paths with bandits and crooked cops. Same stuff can happen in Rio; especially outside Copa. I seem to remember you or your GF telling me about some gringo getting robbed in Botafogo, of all places.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is a good opportunity to warn people about that area since she has seen it happen more than once. The area is the tunnel that connects Copa to Rio Sul mall. She told me that guys are waiting right outside the tunnel before you get to the mall.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1175726]Nothing wrong with a first time visitor to use a guide as long as they have cash and even then don't overpay. The guy that used the guide seemed to do fine and enjoyed himself.
I remember even Kidcisco, the good Doctor from Calif, used a guide on his first trips. Don from Riotrips. I haven't seen Don for a while, but his partner Ken is still around. They are decent guides if anyone is interested.[/QUOTE]I will be in Rio mid August and since I have ZERO knowledge of Portuguese (reading or speaking) I would feel more comfortable with someone to at least show me the ropes. I have mongered around the globe (even Nigeria) but never in a place where I don't speak the language.
I am not a Doctor though, so I need to be realistic about funds. I have joined cupidbrazil in order to work that angle however it can be tough to gauge who is real and who is looking for clients.
Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Mangera;1176130]I walked by the entrance around 5:00 pm. Sorry guys! Fechado!
Someone else has to take over the duty of keeping tabs on the possibble openning of 4 x 4 for the next few days. I will be out of town for a couple of days.[/QUOTE]
Not to add too much more 4x4 drama-- especially after Cartman's great report-- but multiple Hotforum posters claim 4x4 has re-opened. Now, for how much longer will it stay open? :(
Had a gal from a privee come over tonight. She apparently has some German in her despite being preta preta as she arrived 10 mins early, and stuck precisely to 1 hour of play before leaving. R$100. Solid service but 1 pop only makes the Cartman unhappy. So I ventured out and got my 2nd pop fix elsewhere. Afterwards, being in the neighborhood, I stopped in to see that wretched hive of scum and villany known as Balcony. Got there around 10. 15 and it was pretty dismal. Maybe 2 doable chicks in the whole place who didn't look like fat favela rats or crack addicts. Lots of portuguese being spoken at the tables. Looked like predominantly a Brazilian crowd. Saw some older guy with white hair and a beard in a blazer and nice clothes sitting with a relatively attractive morena (dark skin). Looked like they were scouting for a 3-some, or perhaps just watching the show. [Insert joke about putting the ho in show]. Anyway, hung out for the duration of my R$8. 25 Xingu dark beer and then some. Left around 11pm. Was starting to fill up but just not my scene. Girls in T's and privates are generally better looking and, well, cleaner and more reliable in my opinion. Really have no idea why anyone would go to Balcony these days.
-Cartman
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I've been following the thread since my return from Rio 5 years ago. Back then the currency rate was good and there was Help. Now it seems that the scene has been reduced to Termas which I feel is over priced.
Anyone know where the girls from Help have gone? Has it gone underground or have they moved abroad? Is it a matter of gringos unable to FIND the supply, and as a result of lack of demand, the girls have stopped working? I have plans of going back to Brazil, but for now it seems that Rio is dead, and will be dead in the yrs to come with the world cup and olympics.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder;1176433]Not to add too much more 4x4 drama-- especially after Cartman's great report-- but multiple Hotforum posters claim 4x4 has re-opened. Now, for how much longer will it stay open? :([/QUOTE]I walked past 4x4 on my way back to the metro after an enjoyable evening with Renata at MV30. The doors were open and the lights were on! Normal service is resumed.
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1176588]. I stopped in to see that wretched hive of scum and villany known as Balcony. Got there around 10. 15 and it was pretty dismal. Maybe 2 doable chicks in the whole place who didn't look like fat favela rats or crack addicts. Lots of portuguese being spoken at the tables. Looked like predominantly a Brazilian crowd. Left around 11pm. Was starting to fill up but just not my scene. Girls in T's and privates are generally better looking and, well, cleaner and more reliable in my opinion. Really have no idea why anyone would go to Balcony these days. -Cartman[/QUOTE]I've passed by Balcony most nights around 10-11ish on my evening walk along the beach. I agree with Cartmann that, at least at that time of night, it is very quiet with not much to choose from. One or two possibles for me but nothing to really entice.
To answer droplet's question, the Atlantica scene is really quiet now. I only started coming to Rio 2 years ago in the death throes of Help but back then the crowd / girls outside Help was much larger and you used to see a lot of girls walking up and down Atlantica between Help / Meia Pataca and Balcony both on the Hotel side of the road and on the beach side of the road. During the day there were more girls on the beach opposite the Othon (trying avoid the "H" word so I don't get banned!) and again you would see girls walking up and down the boardwalk. Now, it is really quiet, few girls on the beach (admittedly it is winter here and there has been a cold spell). I've not spotted any girls cruising up and down the beach during the day. At night Meia Pataca and Mabs are DEAD, the occasional girl (s) walk up and down Atlantica. Most girls head down from the hills and staright to Balcony. You can see them crossing Barata Ribeiro and Nossa Senhora and making straight for Balcony. Maybe it fills up after midnight but before then it is pretty quiet with not many girls to pick from (say 20-30).
It seems that with the end of Help, the Atlantica scene has contracted and is drying up. Just Balcony now.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1175854]I did not use a guide on my first trip but probably could have used one. I did not know about ISG back then but got some info from some other sites. I am still amazed that I found L'uomo by myself. How much did you pay your guide and how long ago was the trip?[/QUOTE]It was 2 years ago. Back then Ken used to take people along to 4x4 on fridays and Luomo on Saturday. He'd show you how to get there, show you round the place and translate if you wanted to talk to the girls. I think he also sometimes took people on a run to the casas on Rio Branco. People would drop by Amerioca to find out what time to meet up for a tour with Ken. I don't know if he does any of this anymore. It was very helpful. I can't remember the exact cost. But it wasn't extortionate and it was money very well spent in my opinion as it gave me (speaking virtually no portuguese at the time) the confidence to head out into big bad Rio on my own. I realised that you can step out of zona sul. And in fact the action is better and cheaper if you do.
[QUOTE=Harpua; 1176424]I will be in Rio mid August and since I have ZERO knowledge of Portuguese (reading or speaking) I would feel more comfortable with someone to at least show me the ropes. I have mongered around the globe (even Nigeria) but never in a place where I don't speak the language. I am not a Doctor though, so I need to be realistic about funds. I have joined cupidbrazil in order to work that angle however it can be tough to gauge who is real and who is looking for clients.
Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]1) Guide. My advice would be to contact Don / Ken at Amerioca, and ask about a guide. There are probably other guides and other posters on the forum may be able to\provide details, but I used Ken 2 years ago and he was very good.
[url]http://www.amerioca.net/index.html[/url]
In addition, if you put an announcement on the forum saying when you are in Rio and that you would appreciate joining other mongers as they go round the termas / casas, I am sure that you will get some responses. Most people on the forum have benefitted from being shown the ropes at some stage and can help out.
2) Language. You really should try to learn some porto. It will help you understand what is going on and can help get a good rapport with the girls which will usually improve the service you get. Also you will need it if you want to step out of the costly termas scene in zona sul (Luomo, Monte Carlo, Centaurus, Solarium)
3) Budget. As I sure you are aware, the real is strong against $/euro/£ and the main termas are not cheap now. Budget mongering can be had in Centro and at some locations in Zona Sul. However some knowledge of porto, or a porto-speaking wingman is needed in these places as the girls won't speak English. Check the forum and Bubba's and Sperto's guides to find out locations / prices.
[QUOTE=Torgoch;1176737]I walked past 4x4 on my way back to the metro after an enjoyable evening with Renata at MV30. The doors were open and the lights were on! Normal service is resumed.[/QUOTE]Confirming this. Friday 15 July. Went by at 5. 30pm with BubbaBoy and the lights were on, doorman outside, business as usual. At least from the outside.
I really don't get your point in that there is a "club" on this board. Sure there is a group of maybe 15 guys that contribute the bulk of info on this board. However if you go through the last posts of anybody that posts a lot on this board, they very very rarely have a negative word to say about anybody. Most help out whenever possible. Anybody that is new on this board and posts decent stuff is welcomed with open arms and encouraged to post more.
If you find this "club" have a negative attitude to yourself you should take a look at yourself and the quality of your posts. Maybe you are the problem and not the group of regulars on this board?