Avalon is miles away from the RP!
[quote=theknight]a couple of ex rps in shooters, some high end in d*lux, and i think that the biggest majority has migrated to avalon. this place in time i think will turn in rp by default, because already its' reputation is growing, and i think fewer normal girls will go because of the increase in working girls.[/quote]still far from it, i am afraid.
i was in kiev last week with some clients, they checked the avalon on monday and they fucked off without any chick as they found nothing worth picking up. i did not go with them at that time, as i had business to do with one of my all-time favourites (who is from the rio, by the way).
but i returned to avalon with them on thursday so as to see for myself. i was utterly disappointed. the girl/boy ratio wasn't that good and the wg were not so easy to spot (i recognized only one face from the rp); i think most chicks were mere civilians (some of which looked ****, for that matter). i did not bother trying a freebie as i found nothing really interesting. the overall level was really low as per ukrainian standards. i saw only one girl sticking out, a real stunner, 10+/10 in my scale, she was approached by every single man on the dancefloor (locals and foreigners). i watched her for some time, all offers were denied and she did not leave the dancefloor for even 5 min. i think she was there just for fun.
regarding the rio, everything that theknight says is correct, except that i prefer upstairs; anyway, you can check both without any additional cost, so it's no big deal. as for jeankim's question, yes, it's possible to talk the girls into an overnight. if they like you, that is.
here is my little piece of advice: better to arrive before midnight. otherwise it might be difficult to get a table, some girls will have left already and some others will already be booked. also note that not all the girls are into the p4p, some dance only so if you want to choose carefully you'll need some time ahead.
i went to rio on monday and my favourite was waiting for me so i didn't have to think of anything. but when i returned on thursday (after leaving avalon), she wasn't there (she was i'll) and things got more complicated. it was 2 am and the choice was already less than expected. 1st girl i spotted was a stunner but she had something cold, so i asked for a private dance to make sure. i was damn right to do so and i didn't bother asking her to come home as there was no alchemy whatsoever. 2nd girl i had a private dance with was a hottie and i think i would really have enjoyed her, but she wasn't available. 3rd girl i wanted to try, i could not even speak to her, an asshole kept her to his table for ages. same for the 4th one, i had to wait until 5 am to have a chat, only to hear a fucking "i only dance, sorry! " jesus christ.
so yes, better arrive early. apart from that, i really like that place. most strips i have been to in kiev are a fucking outrage but this one is fine.
pascha (rio's manager) told me that they own another club called mandarin (think i have already seen this name somewhere on these pages). same concept as rio, but with more girls. any comments?
we hesitated to try d'lux as well but, according to what i heard, the chicks there ask for prices that are fucking ridiculous, starting at usd400 or even 500 instead of the usd200 of the rp. anybody to confirm this?
as a conclusion: had it not been for the contacts i already had, this september trip would have been a complete mess and the rp is a real loss. i might want to try the mamba thing next time.
Stop, you are both wrong!
[QUOTE=Ziggym]Eegads man! Am I correct in you saying that is $442.16900 U.S. dollars?? What in the hell. That sounds pricey.
I will be there weekend after next and want some decent tail for $50. I have done prep work though and have an apartment.[/QUOTE]
If $450 or $350 is too much for pussy (and it is) equally $50 is too little.
Even if you can nominally get a girl to agree to that - and if you can pull freebies, then maybe you can get $50 deals - it will still involve drinks, meals or shopping. So don't budget $50 per night and think you are done. Quadruple that, or more.
Sure there may be some guys on here to manage that sometimes, but if I understand it, you are a newbie to Ukraine and Russia. You will have to pay a premium for inexperience.